When Jihadis Go Gay, they Go All the Way Gay.
And by all the way gay, I mean flaaaaaming! Here's an image being used at a French jihadi forum to announce an al Qaeda in Iraq video showing the murder of five prisoners.
The inevitable outcome of mixing France with jihad.
A Bit More of Nicolas Sarkozy's Speech
Further to Good Lt.'s post below, I note that there's even more good stuff later in the speech, especially as regards women's rights:
(Translated) I want to launch a call to all those in the world who believe in the values of tolerance, of liberty, of democracy and of humanism, to all those who are persecuted by the tyrannies and by the dictators, to all the children and to all the martyrized women in the world to say to them that the pride, the duty of France will be at their sides, that they can count on her...
France will be at the sides of the Libyan nurses locked up for eight years;
France will not abandon Ingrid Betancourt;
France will not abandon the women who are condemned to the burqa;
France will not abandon the women who do not have liberty.
France will be by the side of the oppressed of the world.
This is the message of France; this is the identity of France; this is the history of France...
My dear compatriots, together we will write a new page of our history. This page of our history, my dear compatriots, I am sure that it will be grand, that it will be beautiful. And from the bottom of the heart, I want to say to you, with the most total sincerity which is mine at the time when I speak to you: Long live the Republic and long live France.
This is a shot across the bow of the Islamists. Only time will tell whether this is a fluke, or only the first of many. Perhaps the election of Sarkozy is a sign that America's longtime ally has begun to recover her bearings, and to realize where her true interests lie. As Good Lt. says, Sarkozy faces an uphill battle. The French nation itself does, actually. But there was a time, not that long ago, when the French didn't turn away from a battle, uphill or otherwise, if it was a battle that needed to be fought.
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Didn't you mean to say "there was a time, not that long ago, when the French didn't turn toward a battle, uphill or otherwise, if it was a battle that needed to
be fought, they ran and let others save their sorry asses"?
Posted by: Unclezeb at May 09, 2007 11:28 AM (l4QX/)
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The (wrongly) so-called women's rights advocates like NOW have been completely AWOL on the persecution of women under Islam. So much so - and for so long NOW (Ha, ha: punny) - that there is a real opening for conservatives to re-claim this issue, which we had stolen from us after Reconstruction.
Of course, it will take confronting Islamists head-on, which the mealy-mouthed Bush and Rice seem not to have the testicular or ovarian fortitude to pull off.
Posted by: Hucbald at May 09, 2007 11:29 AM (fvz9M)
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Sorry fellas but its going to take a lot more than pretty words for France to repair the damage done by Jacques Chirac.
Posted by: doriangrey at May 09, 2007 11:41 AM (XvkRd)
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"more than pretty words" It always takes more, but praise the man for sticking his foot in it and trying to move forward. As for those who casually dismiss France as never having had a backbone, that isn't so. They quite literally were bled dry by the first world war. They had to face pretty much the whole modern arsenal with old fashioned military tactics, and it wasn't until tanks gave protection to advancing troops, that it was even possible to retake ground. The generation manning France's defense in 1939 was born out of the left overs from the no-mans land of the first war. A generation whose fathers had either never returned alive, or were crippled, or broken. I have great sympathy for them. And being betrayed by some of thier leadership isn't uniquely 'French' either.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at May 09, 2007 11:54 AM (2OHpj)
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I'm going to link it to my blog as soon as I get off work, but I really think that everyone should go see the Dissident Frgoman's take on Sarkozy. Here's a hint - look at the title:
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I'll give the man kudos for talking a big game. Now let's see if he can walk the walk. There was a time when Europe was for Europeans, now its mostly just Eurotrash and immigrants looking for a better life from whatever shithole they climbed out of. Let's face it, if your home country, let's call it country A, smells like moldy ass and you leave it and find out that the country your visiting, let's call it country B, does not have that distinct unwashed armpit smell about it, you'll think you just landed in paradise. Plus, the new paradise has more money floating around in it. That's why so many of these immigrant jerk offs that leave their shithole countries want to plant their stakes in Europe permanently... the alternative is the moldy ass smelling country that they came from. And, when you've finally breathed in fresher air... well there's nothing quite like it. But, the immigrants from former moldy ass smelling nations must understand that Europe must stay European. Don't import the backwards customs that turned your country into moldy ass in the first place, otherwise you'll just create new moldy ass in your newfound paradise.
Posted by: DrTheopolis at May 09, 2007 12:08 PM (9ZqGe)
There was indeed a time that the French didn't turn away from a battle that needed to be fought. In fact, this October marks the 1275th anniversary of one such battle:
Quick Thought On Sarkozy Victory
The victory is symbolic and 'a teaching moment' in many ways.
One of the most interesting teaching points is this: socialism/leftism is such a detrimental and demonstrable failure of a governing philosophical dogma that even the FRENCH rejected it decisively.
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My thought was that the riots and unrest in France obviously pushed people move toward a "law and order" candidate. Then immediately following his reaction the leftards, Islamists and commies started throwing bottles and rocks and destroying things. Why? Because they are idiots. Now the French will know they made the right descision and move even further right. The leftards will react by driving away even more support.
Bad for the French hostages the Taliban is holding though. They will kill them. Never mind they didn't vote in the election, Taliban butchers won't care.
Posted by: Howie at May 07, 2007 12:06 PM (YHZAl)
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It would be nice if at least as a token of reconciliation with the U.S., Sarkozy would free the French forces stationed in Afghanistan from the artificially imposed restrictions on their areas of operation. Right now, German and French troops are not allowed by their governments to operate outside Northern Afghanistan, while the American, Canadian, Dutch, Danish and others will go after the enemy anywhere in the country.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at May 07, 2007 12:39 PM (j97MF)
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I would make the point though that it is less a defeat for socialism then a defeat for even more socialism. Even the right in most of Euroland are big statist and socialist compared to our right.
Posted by: Randman at May 07, 2007 03:40 PM (Sal3J)
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One of many battles fought over for the soul of a once great nation. It is a pity she has so few friends left, and so many enemies so close to her heart.Communists, socialists, islamists are just the tip of the iceberg...what to do when your youth just don't have children?
Posted by: RITA at May 07, 2007 06:03 PM (QAIDW)
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Working people can't afford children because they are over taxed to pay for the stream of bastards that pour forth from those able to work who live on public assistance (politically correct for welfare).
Posted by: greyrooster at May 07, 2007 10:21 PM (AFjd5)
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Sarkozy will soon tune down his support for social changes. The 5 million muslims and socials in France will wear him out by civil unrest and rioting. Those that work and contribute don't have time to riot for the good cause.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 07, 2007 10:25 PM (AFjd5)
French Socialist Candidate Warns of "Violence" if She Doesn't Win
Via Reuters:
"Choosing Nicolas Sarkozy would be a dangerous choice," [Segolene] Royal told RTL radio.
"It is my responsibility today to alert people to the risk of (his) candidature with regards to the violence and brutality that would be unleashed in the country (if he won)," she said.
Pressed on whether there would be actual violence, Royal said: "I think so, I think so," referring specifically to France's volatile suburbs hit by widespread rioting in 2005.
Can you imagine being the kind of voter who would change her vote based on this kind of threat? Does Royal know something the rest of us don't? Maybe so. Guess we'll just have to see. Polls show Sarkozy up by 10 points. Seems to me the election of the pro-American Sarkozy would signal French frustration with Muslim immigrants and Chirac's limp-wristed appeasement efforts. I doubt that burning more shit in the banlieues is likely to do anything but strengthen Sarkozy's hand. I expect we'll know by Monday. (h/t : The Big Johnson)
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That's funny, I was just reading some european news on election... One commentator said: "... the vote for Royal would be a gamble (she has little or no experience or understanding of how the government works), but it's worth it..." It sounds a lot like what Royal told her opponent during the debate after he presented some facts she didn't like:"Don't force that on me". Apparently the "gamble" is to ignore the facts and pray hope that reality will go away.
Posted by: Kamchatka Bear at May 04, 2007 12:52 PM (gtZwa)
2"It is my responsibility today to alert people to the risk of (his)
candidature with regards to the violence and brutality that would be
unleashed in the country (if he won),"
Funny. She sounds exactly like what Leftards say we sound like. LOL.
3Can you imagine being the kind of voter who would change her vote based on this kind of threat?
A French one?
Posted by: Gordon at May 04, 2007 03:43 PM (etkxg)
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Isn't it sweet? No matter the language leftist are the same down deep...which is not very deep at that.
Posted by: Randman at May 04, 2007 03:48 PM (Sal3J)
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It's a shamelessly thinly veiled threat! This is what freedom means to pinko's: Vote my way or I'll riot! D@mn commies.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at May 04, 2007 04:07 PM (j97MF)
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Actually, This thuggery of "Vote for me or I'll riot" is exactly how Hitler bullied President von Hindenberg into appointing him chancellor of Germany and we all know what followed....
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at May 04, 2007 04:40 PM (j97MF)
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With 5 million muslims in France you can bet on violence sooner or later.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 04, 2007 07:20 PM (3we2t)
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I hope he wins and let the violence begin. Alot of french friends of mine are fed up with political correctness with the islam religion and have been pushing a massive reform. I hope it happens for their sake!
Posted by: allahakchew at May 06, 2007 10:18 AM (BrndJ)
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I hope he gose and gets france out of the euroweenie union and dumps all those euros in the river
Posted by: sandpiper at May 08, 2007 08:29 AM (9NBAS)
Frogs Go to the Polls; Pro-American Sarkozy Current Favorite
Via AP:
Voters narrow a field of 12 to two favorites who reach the runoff May 6, and only conservative, pro-American Nicolas Sarkozy seems certain to make that cut.
Suspense will hang heavy over the day of national reflection starting Friday at midnight, when all candidates and polling agencies fall silent after an often cacophonous campaign.
Polls suggest Sarkozy's challenger will be Socialist Segolene Royal, an unconventional leftist determined to be the first woman in France's top job...
Sarkozy once sounded like a determined free-market reformer, ready to shake France up from top to bottom. But in recent months he tempered his talk about a "rupture" with the past and has watered down tax-cut plans. A lifelong anti-communist and son of a Hungarian immigrant, he even quoted a Marxist philosopher...
But the campaign focus never stayed on jobs, instead switching to school choice, trashing the European Central Bank and taxing the rich, then to cracking down on youth rampaging in a Paris train station.
In recent weeks, the most enduring campaign theme was French identity.
Sarkozy proposed a Ministry of Immigration and National Identity, which critics said smacked of Nazi-style racism and was a nod to Le Pen's anti-immigrant electorate. Royal's flag-waving call sparked extended debate in the media over what it means to be French.
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Maybe they will start to put 'freedom fries' on the menu over there as well.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 20, 2007 05:11 PM (2OHpj)
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I'm curious as to how many Le Pen voters will actually support Sarkozy in a runoff against Royal. Anybody have some insight on this point?
Posted by: wooga at April 20, 2007 05:48 PM (t9sT5)
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The French as a nation are to cowardly to vote Sarkozy into office. Better to bow and scrape. Besides you know damn good and well that the muslim scum will riot and burn and rape. Their normal solution to not giving in to them.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 20, 2007 08:10 PM (E6u6Q)
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Sarkozy . . .geeeez, perhaps that'll do. Whatever became of Phillippe de Villiers?
Posted by: heroyalwhyness at April 20, 2007 08:42 PM (MAPKL)
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Sarkozy probably as a foreigner he can lead the frogs to self respect like that other foreigner (Napleon) did.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 21, 2007 09:42 AM (oChhC)
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Good luck to him, for it's painfully evident that France is about to go down the drain. Not that that'd especially be a great shame or anything, but it'll facilitate others being pitched down the same route and give fresh impetus to the perpetrators, who shan't be named, mostly because it's obvious who they are.
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at April 24, 2007 02:30 PM (zyFYz)
Berlinski on Sarkozy
I just came across this profile on Nicolas Sarkozy, written by Claire Berlinski in 2004. Though written in the context of that time, it's a quick and easy read, and sheds a lot of light on just who Sarkozy is. Among the Sarkozy trivia:
In 1993, when Mr. Sarkozy was simultaneously the mayor of the French suburb of Neuilly and France’s budget minister, a madman took 21 schoolchildren hostage in Neuilly, threatening to blow them up. While the minister of the interior and the prime minister remained safely in their offices, Mr. Sarkozy drove directly to the school and offered to exchange himself for the hostages. It is rather hard to imagine Mr. Chirac doing the same thing.
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Ragnar are you suggesting that this is something that should of been done by the Prime Minister?
I don't believe that many would think it proper for the President of these United States to offer to become the hostage of a madman.
Posted by: JOHN RYAN at February 18, 2007 03:12 PM (TcoRJ)
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"...doing the same thing," implies a hypothetical in which Chirac would not do the same thing, had he been mayor. I agree with Ragnar, Chirac is a gutless coward and disingenuous manipulator on the American Democratic Party model.
And why would it not be proper for the President to consider such an action? Is it not his job to lead by example?
It's exactly the sort of selfless act I would expect from President Bush, one that places the welfare of his fellow citizens above himself. I only wish that the new leadership of the House and Senate could understand that concept.
Respects,
Posted by: Gwedd at February 18, 2007 05:57 PM (wlNg1)
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Sarkozy is a fascist. He hates Muslims and Africans.
Posted by: Some Dude at February 18, 2007 08:37 PM (F4lVc)
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Anybody a commie Leftard calls fascist is right by me.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at February 18, 2007 09:55 PM (8e/V4)
French al Qaeda Recruiting Euros for Jihad in Iraq
French jihadis recruiting Europeans to join the jihad in Iraq. And who does Jacques Chirac blame? America, of course.
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When are the likes Jacques Chirac going to learn that other nations are not as accustomed to capitulating to and subsequently collaborating with their enemies as the French are?
Besides, he should be the one to talk! I wonder if Jacques remembers a place called Algeria!?!?!!? The kinds of conduct that would make the U.S. military courtmartial its servicemen was perpetrated virtually daily by the French troops. So Jacques and his ilk really need to STFU. Bloody hypocrites!
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at February 15, 2007 04:27 PM (vixLB)
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Jerk Charq how could the french be stuck with such a idiot like him? what that yapping little wussie needs is a kick in the balls
Posted by: sandpiper at February 15, 2007 04:30 PM (XnXsx)
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So after next week's surrender will the French Tri-Color be replaced entirely of will there just be a cresent moon added.
Posted by: chad at February 15, 2007 06:19 PM (lNQg8)
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French are sissys. Always have been. Always will be.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 15, 2007 07:11 PM (Lddpk)
Sarkozy Backs Publishers of Mohammed Cartoons
Via LGF:
“What is there left to do if you can’t laugh at terrorists? If we can’t laugh at them, we are done for,†Charlie Hebdo editor Philippe Val told the Paris criminal court.
[Nikolas] Sarkozy, the front-runner in the presidential elections in April, seemed to agree, saying in his letter that Charlie Hebdo had followed “an old French tradition, that of satire.â€
“I prefer an excess of cartoons than the absence of cartoons,†Sarkozy wrote in the letter read by the weekly’s lawyer Georges Kiejman. Describing himself as a “favorite target†of the weekly, Sarkozy said he accepted that “in the name of freedom, you can laugh at everything.â€
Unicorn's, moderate Muslims, and a Frenchmen willing to offend Jihadist terrorists! One more 'horseman' and I'd say we're about there ...
I know! Michael Moore finally confesses his lies in a documovie!
Nahhh! That IS to apolcalyptic.
How about if John Murtha finds his balls? " I just know I left them around here somewhere ... I hope that bitch Nancy didn't take them! AH-HA! Found ya you little buggers!"
That might qualify ...
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 07, 2007 07:44 PM (2OHpj)
Posted by: TBinSTL at February 07, 2007 07:54 PM (MSiPb)
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That guy is the only hope the frogs ever have of strapping on a pair of balls and taking their country back...step 1 is laughing at cartoons whether they send the moose-limbs into a rage or not.
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at February 07, 2007 08:46 PM (CtVG6)
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I've been predicting for some time that the French would set the pattern for the rest of the west (possibly us included). First they will try to ignore the muzzies, then they'll try to reason with them, after that fails they'll try to buy them off, when the whole place is about to come down around their ears, they will elect an "ultra-nationalist" government and go into full on hysterical bitch mode (maybe even bring the guillotines out of storage) and screw up their entire country with the blood-bath, killing indiscriminately(prolly getting rid of their "jooo" problem while they are at it)......
Just a theory that's been rattling around in my otherwise empty head lately.
Posted by: TBinSTL at February 08, 2007 05:28 AM (MSiPb)
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Greyrooster supports anti mohammed cartoons. Greyrooster wishes he had that talent. I can't draw a circle any better than Vinnie can pick a football game.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 08, 2007 07:56 AM (0W1Sk)
Posted by: greyrooster at February 08, 2007 08:20 AM (0W1Sk)
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I have asked a cartoonist about doing some t-shirts. He already does nature cartoon shirts but he is concerned about politicizing his work. Maybe he will go for it. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 08, 2007 06:16 PM (2OHpj)
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It is not allowed to draw a picture of the phedophile prophet mohammed because he is one ugly mutha fucka. If I believed in someone that ugly I would hide his face too. He has a face like a camel body like a goat and smells like a pig.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 08, 2007 09:34 PM (ZAZT9)
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If the frogs do want to ethnically cleanse their country, I support them 100%, because if it can be done to Whites in various places, it should happens to everyone else too. A good, global bloodbath is what we need, and considering the track record of combat efficiencey, the arabs and africans are screwed.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 12, 2007 03:07 PM (6zYAC)
France Heading for War with Israel?
We've heard this before. But wouldn't France's quick and inevetable surrender to Israel make the Six Day War seem like the 100 Years War? HT: James
more...
Israel has practical battlefield experience dealing with AA missile batteries, and defeating them with air-power. If France made a big enough mistake, their part of the peacekeeping force would be leaving in pieces. The biggest question is WHY DOES FRANCE NEED "AA" WEAPONS FOR A PEACE-KEEPING MISSION IN LEBANON??? Hezb'os ain't got no warplanes that I know of.
They can only be there with the intention of attacking Israeli planes.
So why would that be necessary?
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 26, 2007 10:40 AM (2OHpj)
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Damn good point Michael. I guess some lefturd can explain why. Naw, they won't even try. I do wonder how many muslims are in the French military? They apparently can't find normal jobs because true Frenchmen don't wish to associate with them in the workplace.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 26, 2007 11:17 AM (w+w6p)
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Bah! French armies lost in Trafalgar, Waterloo and in June 1940 to the nazis, a sad story considering what happened to the jews under nazi occupation in the Northern Zone and under the collaborationist regime in the Nono zone. They won in Hastings, Austerlitz, Maringo, Bouvines and a few others. Now, there has been no conflict between Israel and France. Does Israel want one? Perhaps! But is it not a bit dangerous to play such a game when one is surrounded by foes. Look, friends, there is better to do, i.e. to try the President of Israel for his sexual proclivities and the PM for his corrupt practices and to continue to surround yourself with a wall. If ghettos used to be built by goim to protect and then to isolate and later on separate jews from gentiles, they are now built by the Jewish State. A very fascinating self-emprisonment, indeed! As for the future of Israel, let's hope, despite the rancour of some irritable citizens of Israel that it will not be what the Jews attending the Teheran meeting on Holocaust have in mind for it, and that there will be no jews like in Vilna, Warsau and other ghettos to hand over other jews to their enemies.
Posted by: Alois Strum at January 27, 2007 06:47 PM (0Yps+)
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I think that perhaps some of the irrational behavior on the part of the Jews is the constant pressure placed on them for the last 70 years. We should not forget that they have been fighting for their lives every day for decades. Tough way to live.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 28, 2007 02:04 AM (w+w6p)
Sarkozy Wooing Cheese-eating Surrender Monkeys
Via the Jerusalem Post:
France's interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, formally clinched the ruling conservatives' presidential nomination Sunday, pushing a pivotal race for a discouraged nation into high gear.
The ruling UMP party announced that Sarkozy, the sole person listed on the party ballot, had won a vote by registered members. He now faces a tight race against the top contender on the left, Socialist Segolene Royal, for the elections in April and May.
...
Sarkozy has earned both kudos and vitriol for promising to cut cherished workplace protections, championing tough police tactics in hardscrabble housing projects and sending illegal immigrants back to Africa and elsewhere.
He says he is trying to snap France out of its slump: He says the French are overtaxed, overburdened by government fees that crimp innovation, too resistant to speaking English and ill-prepared for globalization.
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By the lack of comments it seems as if french bashing is loosing its audience.
Still there are some die hard neocons left that "stay the course" and enjoy to call the french bad names. They should get to grip with reality cause soon they may be called Bigmac-eating cut and run bigots.
Posted by: Michel Meyer at January 16, 2007 01:42 PM (7vp3N)
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My friend, France-bashing will NEVER go out of style!
Posted by: Ragnar the Linkwhore at January 16, 2007 01:48 PM (Y0V/+)
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American: "You'd be speaking German if it wasn't for the US"
Frenchman: "Well, you'd be speaking English if it wasn't for France!"
Posted by: tbone at January 16, 2007 04:32 PM (HGqHt)
The French will never let French-bashing lose its audience.
Don't know what neocons you're referring to, because there aren't any in the Bush cabinet, but last time I checked, it was the hate America left screeching for a retreat from the terrorists. Maybe you meant to write "dem Jooos?" We all know how moonbats and the French feel about Jews.
Do you want some cheese with your whine, you little rat-bastard?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 16, 2007 05:33 PM (abVz3)
The French entered the Revolutionary War at the last second, once it became clear that America would win. Its contribution was incosequential. Try reading some history instead of DU propaganda.
I could list a hundred French jokes, all of them funny. The one you pasted was excruciatingly unfunny. Did you get it from "The Daily Show," or the "Cobert Report?"
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 16, 2007 05:36 PM (abVz3)
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Jesus Carlosland Cherist, it was just a joke. We'd be speaking English? Get it? I heard that joke when I was a kid. Early would've been after Poland, I think.
Posted by: tbone at January 16, 2007 06:36 PM (iK3oF)
I wasn't aware that England invaded Poland during the Revolutionary War.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 16, 2007 10:35 PM (abVz3)
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Since you have difficulty reading as well as writing English, let me clarify. My ID is tbone. I don't call you names. Name-calling is a hallmark of a lack of credible opinion. The other part of your insinuation is that we somehow fair better compared to France's tardy entry to our support while we certainly took our sweet time trying to figure out if Germany might actually win. Again: IT WAS A JOKE
Posted by: tbone at January 17, 2007 12:19 PM (HGqHt)
France made a cosmetic contribution to America in the Revolutionary for self serving reasons--namely business relationships with the victors and a chance to hold on to territories in North america. France has been an enemy of America ever since. Not long after the revolutionary war, America almost went to war with france, and did indeed fight several undeclared naval wars.
America entered the war against germany when hitler declared war on America, you ignoramus.
Do you want some cheese with your whine, rat? Or maybe some snails and frog legs.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 17, 2007 05:32 PM (abVz3)
You need serious help removing that dick from your ass. Did you cum?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 19, 2007 03:16 AM (abVz3)
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Jeff: Funny thing about cobert (co-bay) is that when he was in school in South Carolina is name was cobert (co-bert).
Posted by: greyrooster at January 23, 2007 12:10 AM (w+w6p)
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Forget about Tbone. He has been boned to much to hold a conversation.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 23, 2007 12:11 AM (w+w6p)
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The French. Screw the French. The French have been whipped in every stupid adventure they started. Their invasion of Mexico, Algeria, Africa, Canada, South America. Asia. Remember French Indo-China? They are the ones who started the shit in Viet-nam which we ended up entering to help the cause of freedom for Vietnamese who wished it. The frogs are jealous little shits who wish we would do as bad as they. If Germany went after them next monday morning I would laugh my ass off.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 23, 2007 12:18 AM (w+w6p)
France: Fighting Back a Crime
The reason stereotypes are so long-lasting? Because they're usually true. From the land of retreat and appeasement, news that fighting back is now official French policy.
There might be a good joke here in the making if it wasn't so tragic:
Q: What do you call a Frenchman who fights back?
A: Indicted.
Hat tip: Ghost of a Flea, who remains your number one source of all things related to Kylie Minogues fantastic backside.
Aha! He is a businessman. That explains it. His attackers were obviously members of the exploited class and were driven only by hunger and desperation. He had no right to defend himself. Welcome to the upside down world of the Left where the "weak" is always right, and the "strong" is always wrong.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 13, 2006 11:28 AM (8e/V4)
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I like that French guy. My French ancestors were from the Rheims area of France. I hope he got to keep the .357 mag. pistol. I sure do like both of mine, one a Taurus and the other a S& W.
And by the way, I used one of my pistols to defend myself in a robbery attempt, and I wasn't even bothered by the police, although I did talk to the PA, just to let him know what happened. His reply, Good job! Now that is a great prosecutor. I do live in a red state, so perhaps that explains it. I would probably have been put in jail in New York. What say you, John Ryan?
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 13, 2006 11:37 AM (8PoNP)
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I wonder if the hooded assailants were of the Generic French Youthâ„¢ variety.
Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 13, 2006 12:07 PM (VvXII)
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Youths of no appearance and ethnicity, huh, Ranba?
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 13, 2006 12:44 PM (8PoNP)
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Indeed Joe. It could be just random thugs, but given the Generic French Youthâ„¢'s actions of late, one can't help but think it.
Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 13, 2006 06:37 PM (VvXII)
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Do they need another FRENCH REVOLTION and to bring back the GUILLOTINE and start beheading those crinimals?
Posted by: sandpiper at November 16, 2006 05:13 PM (O2c+K)
France Tests New ICBM
(Biscarrosse, France) Sacre bleu! France is modernizing its nuclear arsenal with a new missile intended for submarine launch. Deployment is expected around 2010.
France test-launched a new generation of intercontinental ballistic missiles for the first time on Thursday, eyewitnesses at the launch site said.
The M51 missile has a range of 6,000 km, 50 percent further than that of the missile currently in service.
Developed by European aerospace giant EADS, the M51 will also be able to carry a heavier load than the M45 it will replace, and be armed with up to six warheads.
The missile was shot out over the Atlantic from a test site south of Bordeaux. The Defense Ministry declined to say whether the test was completely successful. However, when perfected, the new weapon will enhance France's ability to compete in a global thermonuclear war.
In other news, rioting in city suburbs continues like clockwork, resulting in hundreds of burning cars, trucks and busses every night. As an example, police viewed the torching of 277 vehicles in one recent night as "relatively calm."
Being blamed are gangs of youths, identified only as children of immigrants, who have escalated the violence to include deliberately targeting police and other officials for attacks. French authorities are perplexed about how to respond to the violence since they haven't decided whether the rioting is caused by an underclass of domestic criminals or a "fifth column" of seditious foreigners.
I'd suggest they create a new category for the rioters. Without considering their motives, call them "Le thugs" and put them in jail.
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I wonder how many cars are burned every night in other countries...
Did you know that less than 10% of this number is linked to social unrest? The other 90% are insurance scam, personal vengeances, accident etc.
This, of course, does not mean that there is no problem in Europe suburbs.
Posted by: Here at November 09, 2006 12:02 PM (lLR4O)
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Mike states "creat a new category for the rioters. Without consideration call them "Le thugs" and put them in jail.
You're far too generous Mike. Take each "Le thug" and use as a counter weight to balance the new French missile design - perhaps that should 'perfect' it just enough. Test each missile by aiming each fully balanced prototype in the general vicinity of each "le thug's" ancestry. Practice makes perfect.
Posted by: heroyalwhyness at November 09, 2006 02:21 PM (MAPKL)
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When the Muzzies take over France, they will theoretically have these missles at their disposal. Not a very comforting thought. But other than that, I'm having a nice day. I'm off work for the next 15 days, and am looking forward to putting some meat in the freezer.
But worry not, Greg, we now have internet at our deer camp out in the woods. By a miracle of modern science, and money, we have internet coming in on the dish. Ain't that nice, so Greg and your minions, I will still be watching you.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 09, 2006 05:00 PM (8PoNP)
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Same from the Greyrooster. Only my little dish in on by boat. It works sometimes in the morning or evening with calm seas. Jesusland Joe. We have so many deer and hogs over here it's unbelieveable. Katrina destroyed hunting last year. All the trees down has created a paradise for deer and hogs. No way to go in after hogs without getting your dogs cut up and the deer don't need to come to a food plot because of the downed browse. Just wait until next year I'm going to bulldoze a path into the hammocks and set up my tree stand. Then I'll pretend the deer are democrats.
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 10, 2006 01:04 AM (iEtob)
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You're quite a man, Greyrooster. Hey, you know what? Maybe you should try hunting other hunters who are hunting you instead of sitting in a tree picking off animals as they walk by and pretending you're a hunter.
Posted by: CafeenMan at November 10, 2006 11:22 AM (eNwl1)
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CafeenMan, get off the Greyrooster. He's in his 60's, and he can't rightly stalk game like he did in his younger days. You've got to give us older folks a little slack. And GR was just making a joke. Take it that way.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 10, 2006 03:02 PM (8PoNP)
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Damn... I didn't know he was a fogey.
Sorry GrayRooster. Carry on. If you get the opportunity to shoot a redneck in the face, try to take advantage of it.
Does hating rednecks make me a racist?
Posted by: CafeenMan at November 11, 2006 05:22 AM (eNwl1)
Whatever happened to liberty in France? Truth is, there has never been liberty in France. Democracy, yes, but not liberty.
We don't know why she'd want to go, but Neo-Neocon has been in France reporting on the various lawsuits.
Luckily, at least one mind has been changed over the blood-libel accusations constantly levelled by the Palestinian propagandists. Just 20 million to go.
Generic Youths Burn Bus in Paris.
Generic Youths of in Paris are celebrating last years generic riots in Paris this week by burning a bus.
The MSM are preparing to cover more generic violence by angry generic youths in remembrance last year’s generic violence.
International Herald Tribune: PARIS Police held two teenagers for questioning Monday after a gang of youths forced passengers out of a bus in a Paris suburb this weekend and set it on fire, officials said.
The two teens, aged 13 and 18, were rounded up after the attack Sunday in Grigny, south of Paris, and were being held in a regional police office in nearby Evry, police said.
The attack came days before France is to mark the one-year anniversary of the start of three weeks of riots by youths in poor neighborhoods.
Sunday's assailants, some wearing masks, forced passengers out of the bus in broad daylight, set it ablaze and then stoned firefighters who came to the rescue, police officials said. The local prefecture said nearly 30 youths were involved in the incident.
The attack followed nearly a half-dozen incidents in recent weeks in which suburban youths have attacked police officers, in some cases in planned ambushes.
Such clashes have raised tensions ahead of Friday's anniversary of the start of the 2005 riots, which laid bare the problems of racism and discrimination faced by poor youths of immigrant origin.
Those poor generic youths! I bet burning busses and trashing old rich Fwench guy’s cars will make them more likely to hire generic youths. I must know more about these generic youths. I’ll keep clicking. Hold on. More here from the Telegraph UK who mentions the many of the generic youths who rioted last year were mostly Muslim.
Youths from France’s run-down suburban estates began rioting on October 27, 2005, after two teenagers of North African origin died when they were accidentally electrocuted in a sub-station while trying to flee police in Clichy-sous-Bois, east of Paris.
Riots erupted over the following weeks in most of the country’s major cities. Many of those involved were from Muslim immigrant families, prompting a debate about integration and discrimination in France. Amid fears of a fresh eruption of violence, Jean-Louis Borloo, France’s minister for social cohesion, on Sunday evening called for people to act responsibly because “tensions are raw just as we’re in the process of resolving the difficulties.â€
So remember, act responsibly and call them youths. Since, you know, it would be incorrect to demand the youths act responsibly. And the strongest statement so I can find so far from the Fwench
The Australian: District police chief Jean-Francois Papineau called the bus attack "deliberate".
Deliberate? I’m sure the youths accidentally burned the bus. Better watch that word deliberate you could start a riot or something. Still searching to find of which generic youths burned the bus. One minute….Oh here it is.
Pipeline News: October 23, 2006 - San Francisco, CA - PipeLineNews.org - French police found themselves once again under attack by firebomb wielding North African Muslim immigrants on Sunday.
The Paris suburb of Grigny was the scene of the pitched battle which featured 50 Islamic youths rampaging through the streets taunting police, pelting them with rocks and torching passenger vehicles including a bus.
No, you have got to be kidding me! I’d have never guessed. And I'm damn sure not going to call the riots terrorism. Terrorism is using fear of violence to achive a political goal. I'm sure these boys were just expressing themselves. Add the that the fact that, if I called it terrorism, I might upset some generic youths and cause a riot.
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kill a frog for allah, that's the jihadists battle cry. I bet those dumb frogs all urinating all over themselves trying to put this multicultrual 'event' in its proper place while avoiding being beaten to death. Maybe they could offer the disenfranchised youth their women and appease them in this manner. I'm sure it would work. The jihadists may as well start burning government buildings and banks and targeting civic leaders and destabalize large parts of france. Why fool around with burning some vehicles when much better fare is theirs for the taking? It would be the smart thing to do if you were a jihadist and the only thing opposing you was some gutless, cowardly frog infidels. Maybe we can see some frog beheading videos too. I honestly don't know if I hold the pathetic french in more disgust or the muzzie thugs.
Posted by: goesh at October 23, 2006 10:50 AM (vX0fY)
Since they feel so strongly that they riot, they must be right; let's give them everything they demand including complete submission to their belief system! (SARC)
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at October 23, 2006 11:03 AM (vixLB)
" They should shoot to kill the rioters, then identify their families, round them all up and send them back to their home countries. "
What Memphis761 says, but first they have to grow some balls, and we need to do the same!
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 23, 2006 11:15 AM (Dd86v)
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The MSM/DNC is lieing again by hiding the facts."Generic" my ass!
Posted by: Jo macDougal at October 23, 2006 11:36 AM (2vpLj)
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And zee Fwench will sit back and take all this merde because zee Fwench are lovers, not fighters, dontcha know! I'm waiting for Chirac and de Villepin to run a press conference and admit that they have already converted to Islam and that Fwance is now an Islamic Republic. Sarkozy will be jailed for blasphemy and treason against the Islamic republic of Fwance and Chirac will be dictator for life. Ahmadinejad will congratulate his new bestest friend Jacqbar(Sorry Hugo, you've been replaced!) and congratulate him for coming over to the dark side of the force. Fwance will become a festering pool of terrorism training with Hizbullah and Hamas coming to see Jacqbar for funding and weaponry and maybe Mahmoud can just buy nuclear warheads directly from Jacqbar rather than waste their time developing their own. Attacks across Eurabia will be launched from Fwance. "Generic" youth will now have a new "joie de vivre" and a reason to live, their angst fuelling attacks on other Europeans. Oh zee Fwench. C'est la guerre!
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Obsessing about terrorism is starting to effect your reason - now you see terrorism in the eye of every child, on the lips of every lover - what, we never had a riot here? HA. Terrorists, get real.
Posted by: tbone at October 23, 2006 12:20 PM (HGqHt)
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Define terrorism Tbone. Stan the Infidel is from Indonesia. One of his close friends was shot down last week by a misunderstanderer of the ROPMA. You mock him yet you have never walked in his shoes I will bet. Most of western society can only guess what it is like to live under this cloud of fear.
Posted by: SeeMonk at October 23, 2006 01:12 PM (7teJ9)
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Damn French racists. Nothing but a bunch racists, bigots, KKK'rs, Nazis. See what they get for being a bunch hateful racists. Serves them right. How dare they bring the people from North Africa and not change French customs and religion to suit the immigrants. If God didn't want them to burn the buses he would have prevented it. Damn ignorant racists.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 23, 2006 01:21 PM (6c/Sq)
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Anyone know what happened to Hondo? Was he banned?
Posted by: SeeMonk at October 23, 2006 01:26 PM (7teJ9)
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Seemonk.
I don't think he was banned. If he was I would appreciate someone being honest enough to tell us. I tried to E-mail him using what I could get from past Jawa Reports. Didn't work.
I fear for him. The last comment he had was that he was going to a medical center for a group of tests dealing with a disability. I sincerely hope they didn't keep him.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 23, 2006 01:43 PM (6c/Sq)
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Hey! Google links to you guys. I thought they didn't acknowledge the "great unwashed" in their universe. Anyway, fuque the french, they went into this thing with their eyes wide open when they assaulted the "yoots" with their overwhelming appeasement forces last year! Good luck with that!
Posted by: Dadzilla at October 23, 2006 03:03 PM (QEBxj)
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A word to the wise. My close friend was taken under by the VA hospital. He had fallen and was just banged up a bit, but within days they had thinned his blood and he succumbed after a few days. They are always thinking of new and creative ways to cut costs. He left behind a wife, children and grandchildren. As for Hondo, I heard mention he was actually Steve Irwin. Maybe someone on this blog was joking?
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 23, 2006 04:45 PM (Dd86v)
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The solution to this problem is simple. Enact a law which states that any citizen that is caught engaging in these acts is caught and convicted of these crimes is deported from the country with their immediate family. I guarantee after the first dozen or so criminals engaging in this activity are deported the parents of these "youth" will reign in this activity....
Paul...
Posted by: Paul at October 23, 2006 09:22 PM (IBGCC)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 23, 2006 09:55 PM (8e/V4)
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Obsessing about terrorism? I was just making a joke but semi-serious at the same time. Those youth don't want to be part of French society. They are Muslims. They were born in France and feel it is their Muslim country and the temporary caretakers of "their" country are oppressing them. They don't want to be part of a society they were born into, they want to rule and destroy the society. Such is a religious ideology that incorporates triumphantism. They must Islamicize everything. Nationality and ethnicity means nothing to them. The infidel authority must be destroyed and replaced. Either we conform to their way or we are eliminated. It has always been this way. We are just noticing it more now because of migration of Muslims to non-Muslim countries. Their populations increase enough in their new countries that they begin speaking out against everything and trying to change everything to suit them. And they will try and change you too.
SeeMonk made a great point. Have you ever been persecuted by Muslims? Have you had a gun pointed at you by a militant and told that you're an infidel and will be killed ? I have. During a simple walk from the school I was teaching at to a shopping mall a few blocks away, demonstrating members of the Islamic Defenders Front at the Hotel Indonesia traffic circle in Jakarta confronted me as I tried to enter Plaza Indonesia shopping mall during Ramadan in 2002. One of the militants (sorry.... I should say terrorists) pointed an AR-15 at my head from about a metre away and said "Hey bule, lu tidak percaya ya!" ( Hey white foreigner, you ( lu is Jakarta slang for 'you') don't believe, right? 
What he was referring to is that I didn't believe in Allah. Then he said in English, "I will kill you" and laughed. The police standing by were smiling and laughing. I looked at him and said 'Boleh'. ( Boleh is used when asking or giving permission so basically I was giving him permission to kill me, kind of like saying 'Go ahead'). He looked at me strangely and turned his attention away to his friends. I continued through the crowd into the mall. Am I stupid? Yea probably. Why did I do it? He wanted to get a reaction out of me to make his friends laugh. He didn't get it. Why did I act the way I did? I don't want this to sound arrogant but I believe God has so many plans for me to do His work that He won't let me die in a situation like that. For the same reason I have gone into 'hot' areas of conflict here and in other countries. I have no fear because my faith is way bigger than my fear. I step out of my comfort zone and take that leap of faith and do what I do because I have faith that God knows what He is doing. His Son gave His life so I can have eternal life. I owe Him mine for that and I am ready to give it up anytime. And because I'm ready to die for my faith, I have no fear. No one will force convert me and I will not be a puppet for any militant. Go ahead and torture me, kill me. This body is only temporary. You know, I could easily pack it all up and get out of here. Instead of serving God as He has called me and standing up against persecution against my brothers and sisters by Muslims in a Muslim country, I could be sitting at home in some safe Western country, watching TiVO, drinking beer, eating Krispy Kreme donuts, complaining about politics and the price of gas. I made a choice to stay and make a stand here. As I said before in a previous post a few weeks ago, it's coming soon for you guys too.
When you hear a Muslim child call you an infidel, you know that hate is being instilled by the parents and it's that same hate that wants you either dead or part of their religion. Are all Muslims like this? No. But the numbers are quickly increasing and moderate Muslims will be faced with a choice, are you on the side of Muslims or infidels? For now they can remain neutral or say they believe in a liberal form of Islam. The radicals will eventually force them to make a choice and if they try to continue with their liberal views of Islam, they will be branded an apostate and killed. They cannot stop until the whole world is only full of Muslims and everyone is under Shariah, or the Qu'ran is a lie and Muhammad was wrong.
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And I bet you racist bastards think it was all brown people who did this! Everyone knows it's the JOOOoooOOOOooooooozzzz!!!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 24, 2006 06:24 AM (v3I+x)
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Tbone you seem to miss the finer points of the liberal ideals. See in the 60's those riots were in essence a form of terrorism. The violence delegitimized the cause for which they were acting. Dr King saw that the violence stood on the way of advancement ot civil right and would not result the desired result. I kind of expected the left to defend terror since they have so many on their side. It's not the cause that makes you a terrorist its the actions, See how this works?
Posted by: Howie at October 24, 2006 09:08 AM (D3+20)
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whatever! A good terrorist is a dead terrorist!
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 24, 2006 01:48 PM (Dd86v)
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A good terrorist is a terrorist at room temperature.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 26, 2006 07:08 AM (zqSqi)
French Surrender in Afghanistan
French commandos ordered home because searching for bin Laden is just too dangerous. Ed sent the link along noting that it was the "least surprising headline ever".
I'd try to say something funny about it if I had either the time or inclination. The truth is that there is nothing funny about French cowardice when it affects our national security.
French special forces tracking Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan have been ordered home by President Jacques Chirac because of the "worsening security situation," Britain's Daily Telegraph newspaper reported yesterday.
The group of 200 elite soldiers have been in the war-torn country since 2003, where they have been assisting their U.S. counterparts in hunting the al-Qaeda leader and Taliban fighters around Spin Boldak, near the south-eastern border with Pakistan, and an area around Jalalabad, in the north-east.
Mr. Chirac's decision to send them was intended to reassure the U.S. that France was still a willing ally in fighting terrorism despite its stance against the U.S.-led offensive in Iraq. But, according to unnamed military sources cited in Le Journal du Dimanche, Mr. Chirac gave the go-ahead during a defence counsel meeting to pull the men out of the country by early 2007. According to the report, the troops were badly shaken by the recent death of nine members during a mission.
Posted by: JeepThang at October 16, 2006 10:36 AM (yZQoS)
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Delegated the most wanted man on Earth's capture to the French - hmmm, whose decision was that?
Posted by: tbone at October 16, 2006 11:52 AM (HGqHt)
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" Badly shaken " ( shaking ) in their little black combat booties! History repeats itself. We will inevitably be landing on their shores again to save their sorry asses from the moooouslimes.
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 16, 2006 03:03 PM (Dd86v)
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I think the article said the decision was by the French, to show solidarity in the fight against international terrorism. The French will not have to go very far to find terrorists, though, they are everywhere in the suburbs of the large French cities, including Paris. The homegrown terrorists will see this as more weakness by the French, so do expect them to ramp up the pressure on the French government and its people. Where is Charles Martel when you need him?
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 16, 2006 03:09 PM (rUyw4)
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Well, hell - atleast they tried to get Bin Ladel. C'est la vie...
Posted by: tbone at October 16, 2006 03:50 PM (HGqHt)
I think the "badly shaken" comment stems from the fact that the 9 special forces soldiers were disembowled alive by the Taliban. That's pretty fucked, no matter who you are.
Am I the only one who was surprised to hear there were actually French troops in Afghanistan?
Posted by: Venom at October 16, 2006 04:16 PM (gyr2M)
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Well, in all fairness, how many times can they really be expected to surrender in France?
Posted by: Gleep! at October 16, 2006 04:20 PM (UHKaK)
Or, perhaps it's: the West is insane because they keep doing the same things while expecting different results.
Posted by: Gleep! at October 16, 2006 04:50 PM (UHKaK)
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So what is elite about French soldiers? How do we know?
Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2006 06:03 PM (zBUou)
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I wouldnt be surprised if they were threatened from within, their own police have said they are fighting an intifada. Bring your girls home or we take over you country way sooner than you were planning!
All I got to say about it is AGINCOURT!
I stick my two fingers up to all you frenchies!
Posted by: dave clarke at October 16, 2006 06:08 PM (SWD4n)
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at October 16, 2006 06:19 PM (CtVG6)
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You can purchase French Nato style rifles on the internet. Good deals too. Never used and only dropped once.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 17, 2006 03:35 PM (Igoub)
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So Garrett, you want to know what's elite about French soldiers?
They can surrender to you in more ways than you know how to take them captive.
They can surrender to you from across the room while you're looking them in the eyes, and you'll never even see it coming.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 17, 2006 07:43 PM (v3I+x)
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Vemon: A elite force of soldiers doesn't cut and run when terrorist scum disembowels 9 of your unit. You get some pay back. To the Taliban their barbaric behavior will be taken as it worked let's do it again. The French should be infuriated and wanting payback. Not running with their tails between their legs. Perhaps if the French at 2000 instead of 200 it wouldn't have happened.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 18, 2006 03:58 AM (Igoub)
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More than that. They should be punished as traitors for providing comfort and encouragement to the enemy. That's why it's a man's job. Children just get in the way and cause more harm than good.
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 19, 2006 01:17 PM (Dd86v)
As the interior ministry said that nearly 2,500 officers had been wounded this year, a police union declared that its members were "in a state of civil war" with Muslims in the most depressed "banlieue" estates which are heavily populated by unemployed youths of north African origin.
5JC, they can't wake up, they're all in a coma of denial.
Their hatred of the Right obligates them to live in denial. To concede the threat would be to concede to "Bush", and they'd rather you stick red hot pokers in their eyes than do that.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 05, 2006 01:01 PM (EcCrf)
They fold at the slightest opportunity, when I visited on a school trip when I was about 12-13 the local shitbags shouted bully beef at me!! I wont be sending any of my offspring to save their asses.
Posted by: dave clarke at October 05, 2006 06:22 PM (86PR1)
Posted by: dave clarke at October 05, 2006 06:34 PM (86PR1)
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I'm sorry, aren't the French peoplem, police, and military issued flags of all nations? So that they can wave them when their conquerors come rolling through the Arc de Triomph in Paris? I seem to recall 60-year-old pictures of just this same thing.
Posted by: Not a Dhimmicrat at October 05, 2006 06:42 PM (fL1CT)
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LMAO, Are the french expecting sympathy? They are supposed to be our allies, yet they have done little to help in the WOT, or anyother "Conflict" of ours, when we needed flyover permission it was denied.
For all I care we can start calling France a casualty of the WOT, and let Iran annex the place..
Posted by: Robert at October 06, 2006 02:20 AM (L1ubU)
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The sooner the frogs are exterminated as a race the better off the
world will be. Cultures are like people, and once they've passed their
peak, they either ease quitely into their golden years and then on to
peaceful oblivion, or become bitter and hateful toward the world. Of
course, some, like the British, just become senile and infantile in
their dottering old age.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 06, 2006 01:26 PM (v3I+x)
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Impressive new levels of bigotry from IM. Nice.
Posted by: Rhyleh at October 09, 2006 04:24 AM (Q+ifs)
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Nothing lasts forever, what prey tell do you think the Chinese will be saying about us in 50 years? Something along the lines of: "Stupid fucking Americans sold us their future for some cheap plastic crap - HAHA, best. deal. ever."
You are all supporting a communist country EVERY DAY with almost every dollar you spend and you fling poo at the French?!? What a joke.
Posted by: tbone at October 09, 2006 07:22 PM (XDUhP)
Redeker : "I am now in a catastrophic personal situation."Michelle posts an email written by Robert Redeker in the wake of the publication of his article on Islam in Le Figaro:
I am now in a catastrophic personal situation. Several death threats have been sent to me, and I have been sentenced to death by organizations of the al-Qaeda movement. [...] On the websites condemning me to death there is a map showing how to get to my house to kill me, they have my photo, the places where I work, the telephone numbers, and the death fatwa. [...] There is no safe place for me, I have to beg, two evenings here, two evenings there. [...] I am under the constant protection of the police. I must cancel all scheduled conferences. And the authorities urge me to keep moving. [...] All costs are at my own expense, including those of rents a month or two ahead, the costs of moving twice, legal expenses, etc.
It's quite sad. I exercised my constitutional rights, and I am punished for it, even in the territory of the Republic. This affair is also an attack against national sovereignty – foreign rules, decided by criminally minded fanatics, punish me for having exercised a constitutional right, and I am subjected, even in France, to great injury.
This is the state of our world, now. One writer, one politician, one artist after another has to go into hiding, while those who threaten him walk the streets. It's long since time the authorities started dealing with death threats against writers, artists and politicians with extreme prejudice. How many politicians, writers and artists have the courage to die for their beliefs? Few, I fear. After all, why cause trouble for oneself when there are parties to go to and less "troublesome" topics to explore? It's not at all inconceivable to envision a situation in which one speaker after another learns to keep his big mouth shut, one after another until all the dissenters are silent, either by choice or by force.
If we continue down that path, the one sound we will be left with will be the muezzin calling us all to our daily prayers.
Every submission emboldens our enemies. We stop this pretty damn soon, or everything we know ends. If you don't draw the line here, where do we draw it? Okay, no more movies. Okay, no more cartoons. Okay, no more articles. This isn't some story in a book or a movie. This is real, folks.
It don't know about you, but this bull$h!+ makes me want to speak out more, while I still can. When they come get me, at least I'll die on my feet.
Posted by: Eddiespaghetti at September 29, 2006 01:58 PM (1wBAs)
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Redeker, here is my advice. Get the hell out of France, move to a red state, buy a gun, learn to use it, read Jeff Cooper's Principals of Personal Defense, obtain a concealed carry license, and learn how a free man lives. Be ready to defend yourself with deadly force. After several of these bastards who make these threats are shot dead, the rest will learn. No more threats.
Posted by: jesusland joe at September 29, 2006 03:16 PM (rUyw4)
The French authorities are making this guy pay for his protection and making him beg for accomodation? An innocent man is being threatened directly by an international terrorist group. Surely that kind of situation qualifies a citizen for complete protection from the state. But then again it is France. It wouldn't suprise me if in closed circles the authorities are blaming Redeker for causing this mess.
Posted by: Graeme at September 29, 2006 03:55 PM (WWDND)
This story is about France, but the Dutch reacted in more or less the same way when Ayaan Hirsi Ali was threatened. I'm not sure how the rest of Europe has reacted to similar situations, but I haven't seen any European country stand up for their artists and say to the Islamicists: "If you have a problem with these men and women, you have a problem with this nation as a whole. If any violence comes to any of them, be assured that our nation will not rest until every person who so much as breathed the same air as those who plotted to hurt them will face consequences." That's what it will take.
Posted by: Ragnar, the All-Seeing Pirate at September 29, 2006 04:50 PM (+M2Xb)
Posted by: jesusland joe at September 29, 2006 07:14 PM (rUyw4)
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I have a feeling he is a proud Frenchman, since he obviously is not
afraid to stand up for what he believes in, and thus would probably not
consider immigrating to the USA. If you want to though, I am sure
there are many bloggers and readers who would love to support you in
the move to our country in which the right to bear arms is an integral
part of our life.
We can use all the good men we can get, come on over.
Posted by: Naieve at September 29, 2006 07:43 PM (+PWjE)
Posted by: greyrooster at September 29, 2006 08:13 PM (4wfPJ)
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I may not like the French all the time, may hate them alot of the time, but without them the USA would probably not exist.
Men like Redecker are why we have a country, I do not forget my countries debts of honor.
Posted by: Naieve at September 29, 2006 08:19 PM (+PWjE)
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Preachin to the choir. Now.. when will everyone else figure it out?
Posted by: JeepThang at September 29, 2006 09:58 PM (yZQoS)
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The left has already figured it out and has submitted. Last month, University of VA’s paper ran an obscene cartoon of St. Mary. The University of Minnesota’s drama dept had a play about the “Bad Pope†or some bullshit like that. These left wing cowards know full well who and what the religion of peace is. It is us and they know they are safe and sound taking their shots.We grant free will and invite them to change their ways. God have mercy on them. The cowards have surrendered to the Muslims. Non of these pissy little fags would dare run a similar cartoon or stage a play about M or his followers. The left has surrendered and summons up fake courage with a swipe at the Christians.
Oh ya, the left has figured it out, and surrendered.
Prove me wrong UVA or UM. Lets see the cartoons and play next week.
Posted by: Brad at September 29, 2006 10:46 PM (Gp5c0)
Posted by: Lilac at September 30, 2006 01:24 AM (Fjrg+)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE RESOUNDING VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:07 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE RESOUNDING VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:08 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE RESOUNDING VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:08 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE RESOUNDING VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:08 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE RESOUNDING VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:10 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE RESOUNDING VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:11 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE RESOUNDING VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:11 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE RESOUNDING VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:11 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE RESOUNDING VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:11 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE RESOUNDING VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:11 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:13 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:13 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:13 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:14 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:14 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:14 AM (HwLxc)
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Look at the fatwas already against our own spokespersons in the USA. WE ALL need to stop these online "People Search" engines, like Zabasearch.com, or everyone is at risk...take a look and see if YOUR name and personal ID phone and address does not appear online.One squeaking little voice crying in the wilderness gets a laugh, but it is beyond time for us all together to speak up AS ONE VOICE.
Posted by: hateterrorists at September 30, 2006 05:14 AM (HwLxc)
Posted by: greyrooster at October 01, 2006 07:59 AM (9NcP7)
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I wonder if what Redeker is experiencing is what gregturd had in mind
for me when he datamined all the info about me he could get and posted
it on a lefturd blog? Lefturds and muslims are all the same, and
extermination is the only solution.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 03, 2006 11:45 AM (v3I+x)
President Jacques Chirac has broken ranks with the US and Britain by calling for the suspension of UN Security Council action against Iran during negotiations over its nuclear programme.
Is this the same country whose sorry ass my grandfathers pulled out of the fires of Nazism and fascism?
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Yep, the froggies are the same spineless rats they've always been. If you'll recall your European history, it was the froggies who made an alliance with the Ottomans in their war against the Hapsburg Empire. As of now, Chirac is doubtless negotiating with Iran to do a backdoor deal in which the french will get oil at a discount, just like they did with Saddam, in return for their support. Iran will raise the global price of oil with its constant agitation, and the froggies will make billions. The french are cowards and traitors and should be exterminated along with the muslims and lefturds.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 19, 2006 10:42 AM (v3I+x)
Posted by: n.a. palm at September 19, 2006 10:55 AM (CWQzg)
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Lt, I liked the link to the post at Huffpo. You know the one, where muslims are called spiritual n-words. I have heard nothing on it elsewhere. Of course it was not a slight to muslims, or was it? I am so confused. In any case I suggest people read it. I would link to it but my last attempt was blocked. I think it was because I used the n-word instead of calling it the n word.
Silliness.
Posted by: SeeMonk at September 19, 2006 11:14 AM (7teJ9)
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"But officer, it's not his fault he beats me. I still love him.
Posted by: Editor at September 19, 2006 12:12 PM (adpJH)
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Avast, Chirac, ye scurvy dog! Ye traitorous scalawag! Ye shall be a kissin' the gunner's daughter and swingin' from the yardarm! Arrrr!
Posted by: Insomniac at September 19, 2006 12:17 PM (15Qe6)
Stupid Headline of the Day...
...comes from MSN.com:
I feel so out of the loop. I had no idea that the United States was fighting France in the Middle East.
Anyway, here's the story:
UNITED NATIONS - The United States and France agreed Saturday on a draft U.N. Security Council resolution that calls for a halt to the fighting between Israel and Lebanese Hezbollah guerrillas, but would allow Israel to defend itself if attacked.
That's big of the Fwench, don't you think? They'll allow Israel to defend herself if attacked. Of course, maybe I'm being too hard on the Fwench; defending your very own sovereign nation against attack is a foreign concept to them.
1"defending your very own sovereign nation against attack is a foreign concept to them"
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha :-)
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at August 05, 2006 02:19 PM (Bp6wV)
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The sooner we attack Iran and Syria, the better, because then Russia, China, and France can join in and get a taste of nuclear annihilation as well, and we can start slaughtering the muslims and lefturds here at home. Total war is the only answer.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 05, 2006 02:52 PM (v3I+x)
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I hope Mr. Bolton and Dr. Rice allow time for Israel to wipe out Hizbullah once and for all.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at August 05, 2006 03:13 PM (Bp6wV)
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I'm anxious to see France send troops into the melee. Then the Islamists can get mad at them. We'll likely see riots in Paris and Chirac will roll over and surrender again. France's problems with the Muslims need to come to a head. I don't wish ill will. I just don't think it's healthy to let the situation fester.
Posted by: Mike at August 05, 2006 03:50 PM (kgPvF)
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What they're negotiating is the terms of surrender. The French refuse to take part if they can't collaborate with Hezbollah, but the Hezzies want none of it; they know a bad deal when they see it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 05, 2006 04:30 PM (v3I+x)
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I am so glad that John Bolton is taking surrender lessons from France. They are the best at surrendering and I am sure can teach him to surrender effectively to anyone, whether it is need or not. We need to surrender IMMEDIATELY to anyone who will listen. We need to use this opportunity to practice our surrender to the Jihadists in Iraq at the end of the year.
But, really, the whole thing has me wondering what group of aliens have abducted the real US administration. They must have been very good because they stole anyone who looked like they may have a set.
Maybe we can surrender to them too?
The Hobo
Posted by: Robohobo at August 06, 2006 10:35 PM (8E3Xe)
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This is merely France acting on its long-established policy of pre-emptive surrender...
Posted by: marsorbust at August 09, 2006 08:18 AM (lnUWn)
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This is merely France acting on its long-established policy of pre-emptive surrender...
Posted by: marsorbust at August 09, 2006 08:22 AM (lnUWn)
Germany to Keep Peace In Lebanon.
The French have agreed to help keep the peace in Lebanon after fighting ceases.
Ynet: The French and Lebanese armies will take part in the multinational peacekeeping force expected to take position along the southern Lebanese border, it was revealed following a meeting between US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert in Jerusalem.
Of course the French will then hand Lebanon over to the first German that crosses the border.
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It's a trick! I hope Israel and U.S. don't fall for it. This cancer of Hizbullah must be completely cauterized; otherwise it will just come back stronger.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at August 04, 2006 10:00 AM (vixLB)
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The French just want to try out the Lebanese beaches.
Posted by: Eman at August 04, 2006 10:16 AM (ljoDE)
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 04, 2006 10:19 AM (gLMre)
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Are there Nazi's in power in Germany? Obviously Germany and Israel have matured and moved beyond that. There is a lesson in this for those demanding reparations from the US because of slavery.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 04, 2006 10:42 AM (7teJ9)
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I know, where did that come from. A better analogy would have been to point this forgiveness out to the Jew haters. But let's face it. They will hate Jews as long as their race still occupies space and has weight.
It is sad when you think about it.
On another note, how long will it take al-Sadr and his militia to overthrow the gov in Baghdad and link up with Iran, after the US leaves Iraq. The seeds are there and everything is in place. The Mahdi are no different than Hezbollah in the way they permiate all levels of the Shiite society in Iraq. What is interesting is how they will interact with the Baathists and Sunni Syrians.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 04, 2006 11:03 AM (7teJ9)
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The French have pre-ordered specialized equipment to prepare for their military engagement, 1000 batons with attachable white flags.
Posted by: davec at August 04, 2006 11:27 AM (voZp6)
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I am getting tired of this. It won’t do any good to place a new UN peacekeeping force, just old wine in new bags. Israel bombing Beirut while they don’t have any plans to send ground troops that far. Baghdad is exploding, thousands on the street against the US. Blare doesn’t have any answers, the only thing he can come up with is: “They want to destroy Israel†Democracy in Iraq is wishful thinking. Now they want to improve live in Cuba after Fidel is gone, with a, you’ll guessed it “a democracyâ€! After year of boycotting! Oh my God! What a mess!
Posted by: Dan at August 04, 2006 01:04 PM (Z2OsI)
Anyway, huzzah for surrendering to the enemy. I guess jews will have to find another country in a few years; those that didn't die, at least.
Posted by: MiB at August 04, 2006 02:37 PM (6jwxg)
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The French are highly capable now. They are very well trained and have some of the newest technology in their arsenal. Trust me, YOU DO NOT WANT TO MESS WITH THE FRENCH!
Posted by: Some Dude at August 04, 2006 03:09 PM (WW510)
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A French officer and a British officer are having a conversation sometime in the late 1700's:
French officer: Dites moi, monsieur, why is it the British wear red coats? It seems it would make one more of a target on the battlefield, no?
British officer: Well, you see old chap, it's to dishearten the enemy; even if we are shot, and soaked in blood, the enemy has no way of knowing, and so his morale plummets.
French officer: Ahhhh, I see! Merci, monsieur!
French officer (to his orderly): Garçon! Fetch my brown pants immediately!
/rimshot
Posted by: Citizen Duck at August 04, 2006 05:29 PM (NZVA1)
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Some dude, please don't ever say that again. I don't think my heart could take. I haven't laughed that hard in years. Whoo, boy, that was a good one! And the cow jumped over the moon, haha!
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 04, 2006 05:40 PM (rUyw4)
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The frogs should go to the Sudan before it is to late. Oh wait, your to late!
Posted by: Leatherneck at August 04, 2006 07:45 PM (D2g/j)
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Gee! I guess we can all finally stop worrying now! /sarcasm/+6
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 05, 2006 03:49 PM (gLMre)
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I have wondered why the French Foreign Legion wore brown pants. Now I know.
Some Dude - Equipment is not important. There is an old Scotch saying "Its nay the size of the dawg in the fight
Tis the size of the fight in the dawg"
Guts or heeart are what matters.
Gutless Frenchmen with world class armor will still turn and run when facing a determined enemy.
To quote another Scotchman "Cheese eating surrender monkeys!"
Posted by: Jo MacDougal at August 05, 2006 04:06 PM (2vpLj)
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Has any one ever heard of a place called Verdun?
Posted by: Some Dude at August 07, 2006 09:01 AM (llVQM)
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And another thing. They lost in Vietnam. We did too. The French are tough bastards. Last time in Lebanon, didn't we run? The French stayed until they decided to leave with the rest of the world. The FFL is crazy man. I was watching this documentary about them and $hit man. It was f**king crazy! Especially in the jungles. There were like diseases that no one has ever heard of there and they had to go through survival training. And has anyone seen the new Rafale? Like shit man, when the French went against the USN in an exercise, the Rafales ripped apart the USN F-18s.
Posted by: Some Dude at August 07, 2006 09:05 AM (llVQM)
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Some Dude: I had commented on your post but Goodie Lt got permission from his daddy Al Sharpton to delete it.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 08, 2006 04:22 PM (BQiRv)
Posted by: Darth Vag at July 27, 2006 08:57 PM (+nlyI)
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"Any testosterone is abnormal" Excellent reply to the French.
Posted by: Scott at July 28, 2006 06:10 AM (+IzJ7)
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Just thinking. Perhaps Lance Armstrong never tested with abnormal levels of testosterone because he only had one nut. Which is closer to the French, who have none.
Posted by: Scott at July 28, 2006 06:15 AM (+IzJ7)
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Thanks to Rusty. I have had 30 hits so far. That is an all time record. Unfortunately, when I update my site, the counter resets.
Posted by: Cmunk at July 28, 2006 08:50 AM (7teJ9)
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No American should debase himself by participating in the Tour d' Loserville, since any time an American wins the froggies bitch and cry like the petulant brats they are. The sooner the 'slamoturds eradicate the frogs the better, because then we can wipe the 'slamoturds out and take France for ourselves.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 28, 2006 10:21 AM (v3I+x)
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A few lazy, ignorant cliches trotted out and a few dumb cunts feel their worldview has been validated. The French are the new Jews - the idiot right sees their villainy everywhere.
French cycling fans are generally quietly sad right now.
Posted by: santori at July 28, 2006 05:16 PM (9JKJs)
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The frogs have a right to be sad; they're the ugly girls at the prom of world history, and their best hope is to be groped by a drunken jock now and then.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 29, 2006 11:17 AM (v3I+x)
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"In France, any testosterone in the bloodstream is considered abnormal."
Idiot.
Landis has not been accused of having lots of testosterone, but rather of having an elevated T/E ratio. That means he was above the normal limit of 4:1 testosterone to epitestosterone- a by-product of normal testosterone production.
In other words, if your body normally produces tons of testosterone, you will will also have lots of epitestosterone, at or below the above ratio. But if you inject or take oral testosterone, you ratio will be higher, since you body didn't produce it and therefore no by-product.
Landis had a T/E ratio of 11:1, nearly triple the normal ratio.
Dumb fucks.
Posted by: Quando at July 30, 2006 04:14 AM (0v4Wy)
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Did you hear what the French found in the lock of Landis? They found 3 more banned substances...soap, underarm deodorant, and shampoo!
Hahahahahahaha
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 30, 2006 10:46 PM (PkeU2)
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Quando - what did the carbon-isotope test show?
Posted by: Barney Coppersmith at July 31, 2006 01:26 PM (R4293)
French Public Warming to Muslims
AllahPundit at HotAir posts some results of a recent Pew Research Poll of Muslims and non-Muslims around the world.
Non-Muslim Opinion of Muslims
Interestingly, majorities of the public in the U.S., Germany, the UK and Russia were sympathetic to the Muslim rioters in France who lit the French suburbs on fire last Summer. Now, I'll admit it's probably a good thing I don't have a button in my house that could automatically start a fire somewhere in France, because there are probably those times I'd be tempted to use it. On the other hand, I have little sympathy for anyone who moves into another country as an invited guest and then complains about the conditions. I have zero sympathy for any immigrant who'd turn to violence.
Predictably, UK public opinion of immigrants is down from last year before the 7/7 bombings, but it is up as compared to 2002. Oddly, French public opinion is more favorable to Middle Eastern and North African immigrants now than it was a year ago, despite the recent cartoon controversy and the immigrant riots last year. Similarly, 46% of the French public was sympathetic to the rioters. Let me get this straight: someone came to your country, with your permission, and then lit the place on fire, and you're OK with this? Are the French just masochists? Do they really loathe themselves that much? Do they suffer from some bizarre nationwide form of Stockholm Syndrome? I really don't get it.
Distinct from Society vs. Adopting National Customs
52% of German Muslims opined that Muslims in their country want to "be distinct from society" as compared to 30% who believed that German Muslims want to "adopt national customs." Substantial majorities in France and Spain believed that Muslims in those countries prefer to adopt national customs.
Muslims First, Citizens Second
Not surprisingly, the vast majority of Muslims living in the UK, Spain and Germany (81%, 69% and 68%, respectively) considered themselves Muslims first and citizens second. On the other hand, 39% of Indonesian Muslims considered themselves citizens first and Muslims second, compared to 36% who had the opposite view.
Somewhat surprisingly, 48% of Christians in the U.S. considered themselves U.S. citizens first and Christians second, as compared to 42% who saw it the other way around. My guess is most of the 48% are the type who only darken the church door for weddings and funerals.
Distinct Muslim Identity
Substantial majorities of non-Muslims in the UK, Russia, Spain, Germany and even France believed that a rising Muslim identity was a bad thing. Substantial majorities of Muslims in the UK, Spain and France thought it was a good thing.
Overall, the poll sheds some light on Muslim and non-Muslim attitudes in Europe. Unfortunately, the questions asked were pretty vague. As such, it's tough to draw many hard conclusions from the results. I still can't get past the fact that almost half of the French were sympathetic to the rioters.
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I suppose it could depend on the phrasing of the question.
I might answer affirmatively (and thus be miscontrued as being sympathetic)to the question "Do you understand why the Moslems are rioting in France now?" but that doesn't mean I necessarily agree with their actions or that the bastards shouldn't be shot down.
Posted by: YBP at July 09, 2006 02:11 PM (gZnyq)
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What do you expect from a nation of Nazi collaborators?
Posted by: Mark at July 09, 2006 03:37 PM (isTfo)
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Headline should have read, "French Warming to Their New Masters". It must suck to be French.
Posted by: Richard at July 10, 2006 01:26 AM (7KF8r)
It's a true epidemic: the red, white and blue, stars-and-stripes banners are everywhere in the United States - on house facades, front lawns, cars and clothes.
"It's a little strange, this obsession of the flag," French author Bernard-Henri Levy wrote after traveling across the country.
"Everywhere, in every form, flapping in the wind or on stickers, an epidemic of flags that has spread throughout the city," Levy wrote in "American Vertigo" of the riot of banners he saw.
I feel your pain, Bernard-Henri. The French tri-color is, at best, an uninspired design, but that's not the real problem.
The real problem is that the tri-color is most familiar to the French (those few who choose to serve it, when outlanders still can be enticed to join the Foreign Legion) as a rallypoint to mark the extent of the latest retreat. Or perhaps on letterhead detailing a special, secret business arrangement with Saddam Hussein.
It seems that the once-great French nation has never truly recovered from the shame of Vichy France and the collaboration epidemic.
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It's easy to see why citizens of other countries would misunderstand our respect for our country's flag. I attended the Formula 1 race in Indy last weekend, and it is standard procedure to wear your country's flag as a cape to support your favorite athlete or team. Same with soccer (foot ball?). I don't have a problem with that, and don't think it automatically means that the flag wearer intends any disrespect to the flag he wears. But their flags don't stand for the same things ours does.
They are jealous. And have a bad odor. (being outdoors is of no help).
Posted by: haywood jablowmi at July 05, 2006 05:16 PM (6XKXf)
Posted by: greyrooster at July 05, 2006 06:41 PM (NMQrK)
3It seems that the once-great French nation has never truly recovered from the shame of Vichy France and the collaboration epidemic.
France was never a great nation, because they never advanced the cause of Liberty, human rights, or civilization. Every act the French have ever committed has been out of nothing but greedy self-interest, and they have never been an ally to any other nation for the sake of freedom. France is our oldest enemy, and contiues to be the most odious to this day.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 05, 2006 07:12 PM (v3I+x)
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The French misunderstand the flag, but so do many Americans, who seem to be more concerned with the cloth itself than what it represents.
What good is the flag when the principles of liberty which it's supposed to represent are lost? Protect freedom first and let the flag worry about itself.
Posted by: Michael Hampton at July 05, 2006 10:37 PM (FVbj6)
We could change our flag (and actually have before) and still be essentially the same nation we are today.
If we ever change our IDEALS, however, we will NOT be the same nation we are today. We may be the same people, on the same piece of land, and maybe even flying the same flag--but we wouldn't be the same nation.
Posted by: The All-Seeing Eye at July 06, 2006 12:05 AM (fZeeX)
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I understand why the Fwench are uninterested in flying their flag, the white flag is so boring, so lacking in depth, so bland..
Should spur some emotion once they add the crescent to it though.
None of you have the education to have the first fucking idea what your talking about. Might I suggest your 'great nation' starts teaching some history? Within five minutes of starting to actually *think*, you'll realise quite how retarded this thread it.
Go fuck yourself up the wrong 'un, you ignorant little turds. And clean up the resultant spattering of shit and love-juices with your fucking flag - that's about all it's good for.
Twats.
Posted by: My Argreeable at July 06, 2006 03:47 AM (csS7P)
None of you have the education to have the first fucking idea what your talking about.
Perhaps not. I do however have the education to have the first fucking idea that your sentence structure is attrocious, and that you meant "you're" and not "your".
Pwned, Froggy!
Posted by: Son Of The Godfather at July 06, 2006 04:18 AM (maXzk)
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If I recall correctly the US was a huge suplier to Saddam Hussein during the Iran - Iraq war. Not only France have sold weapons to people that aren't very nice.
But I'll give it to you Americans. You really have pride in your own country. I just hope you also see that it has flaws, and you probably have. It's just that much of that does not show through on european television. Here we see just the two opposite poles: At one side we see a bunch of people screaming USA, USA at sports events and on the other side we see Michael Moore.
Posted by: Frankster at July 06, 2006 05:02 AM (KeSyl)
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Bernard Henri Levy isn't your typical frenchman, and it's very likely that his essay was actualaly a tongue-in-cheek satire on the appeasement mindset of his fellow Frenchmen. He's a rather outspoken exception to the French opposition to America and Israel.
BTW, I think that if there's such a thing as crossing the line My Agreeable, has crossed it. Someone ought to delete his post, etc.
Posted by: Demosophist at July 06, 2006 08:32 AM (Zcruy)
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I'm in IM's court. The Frogs only helped this country's indepenance (1) to hurt the Brits (2) after the war was won. A few years later we had to war on their shipping in the Med. Sinking 95 of there ships before teaching them not to mess with us.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 06, 2006 09:44 AM (NMQrK)
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"Every act the French have ever committed has been out of nothing but greedy self-interest... France is our oldest enemy, and contiues to be the most odious to this day."
Hey, they gave you that bad-ass statue...
And cheese. They've given the world some wonderful cheese.
Posted by: Bob Holness at July 06, 2006 03:51 PM (+42OI)
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Two fine points Bob, but sculpture and cuisine don't make up for two centuries of enmity and backstabbing, especially after we saved their butts twice.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 06, 2006 03:55 PM (v3I+x)
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**please ignore the following post if you were fortunate enough not to read my previous one**
Well, this is awkward.
I don't like to apologise, generally, but I was badly out of order.
I don't dislike America. I formally rescind my suggestion that people use the flag for, er, cleaning duties.
The ill-advised tirade above was a product of too little sleep, too much booze, and generic irritation. I was being, not to put too fine a point on it, a cunt.
Not that I agree with this round of Frog-bashing, either. It's getting too easy to paint entire countries with one broad brush-stroke. The French (joe public, not the government) are not bad, horrible, or worthless - if you actually go there, and talk to them, you will find them to be warm, friendly, wonderful people. It annoyed me to see them denigrated in such a shabby manner, and I responded appaulingly.
...and in doing so, I did the same damn thing. I railed at a whole country on the basis of one or two comments.
I am repentent. I don't hate America. All the Americans I've met have showed such generosity of spirit that I'm embarrassed to think that they might ever see what I wrote earlier.
Sorry, people. I was wrong.
Posted by: My Argreeable at July 06, 2006 06:51 PM (+42OI)
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(oh, and my inner-pedant demands that I point out to 'son of the godfather' that, although you were quite right to label my drunken mangling of the language 'attrocious', you'd have been better-off spelling it 'atrocious'.)
Posted by: My Argreeable at July 06, 2006 07:12 PM (+42OI)
France Jails 25 Unitarians for Eiffel Tower Plot
Did I say Unitarians? I meant Buddhists. Remember, all religions produce an equal proportion of murderous nuts and thugs. Repeat that mantra 20 times while genuflecting in the UN's general direction.
A PARIS court sentenced 25 Muslim militants yesterday for planning attacks against the Eiffel Tower and other targets with explosives in support of rebels fighting Russian forces in Chechnya.
Team America could not be reached for comment.
Yes, I'm that bored in Ft. Collins that I've resorted to blogging.
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I don't understand. We are allowing them to burn the American flag in New York, and we are building them some prayer room in the Pentagon. Can't the religion of peace see the West really wants to understand them?
I bet, if the Frogs built a prayer room in the E.U. new tower of babel buliding, the ROP would calm way down.
Posted by: Leatherneck at June 14, 2006 04:59 PM (D2g/j)
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Buddhists ??? never would we ever do such a thing lol
Posted by: john ryan at June 14, 2006 05:21 PM (TcoRJ)
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Well except for that 1 or 2 million back in the late 70's in Cambodia. Cambodia is one of perhaps only 5 countries that have buddhism as a state religion.
Posted by: john ryan at June 14, 2006 05:23 PM (TcoRJ)
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The Killing Fields were done by Atheist Communists, Ryan.
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and bad christians ?? contemporary of course; well The Lord's Army in Uganda/Sudan and the Rwandan massacre do come to mind. Culture is much more powerful than religion
Posted by: john ryan at June 14, 2006 06:09 PM (TcoRJ)
when the likes of the "Army of God" are the exception rather than the rule for christianity, any logical thinking person would start to look for reasons other than christianity for their barbarity. You stated one possible reason, i.e., culture. There could be others.
But when the barbarity appears to be the norm for a religion-- rather than the exception-- there comes a moment when you can no longer pretend it's some other reason other than the religion itself.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at June 14, 2006 07:25 PM (8e/V4)
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Ryan you friggin idiot. Cambodia is a Communist country.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 14, 2006 07:36 PM (s/5ju)
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There is no reasoning with John Ryan, just put that bitch in his burka.
Posted by: davec at June 15, 2006 12:36 AM (CcXvt)