January 17, 2007

More proof that Saddam Hussein, like Franco, is still dead. This video is of the (still) dead Saddam Hussein in an ambulance as it was being transported for burial. The grainy video shows people gawking at the dead dictator's body and discussing it. The video ends with Hussein's face being covered by the body bag, the doors closing, and the ambulance driving away. His soul, I am told, had already been sent to hell.
The video first appeared on a Sunni website which claims it was taken in Karbala as the body was being transferred to its final resting spot. The film is said by the website to be more evidence that the Shia led Iraqi government "did not take into account the preservation of the dignity of the Iraqi president or guard his body after his execution". The films, more of which may be forthcoming, "all indicate blundering government militias and their inability to curb their hatred, venom and bad deeds."
Q: This is now the third Saddam Hussein death video....is there a single Shia in Iraq who didn't take pictures?*
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Posted by: Randman at January 17, 2007 04:17 PM (Sal3J)
Why not? Watching saddam decompose would be more entertaining than "American idol," and less ghoulish than a Cindy She-hag rally.
What the hell. The media want to tout every Coalition death one by one as a Bush failure, along with all the Iraqi babies, orphans, bunnies and burning shites. Why not tout a success?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 17, 2007 08:29 PM (abVz3)
Because those sick pukes in the media would not spin it that way.They would have leftist claming that those were secret Jewish imperial worms chewing through his skin as a perpetuation of colonial dominance, or so hogwash like that.

Posted by: Randman at January 17, 2007 09:01 PM (Sal3J)
I was just kidding, but the sick pukes in the Establishment Media will continue to subject us with anti-American, anti-Semitic, P.C. propaganda regardless. I say let them piss the public off with their hypocrisy regarding genocidal tyrants.
The day some media mogul decides to open a factual news agency--especially a televised one--he will become the richest man in the world. Until some enterprising billionaire has enough brains to do so, we'll continue to be reamed by the social engineers 24/7.
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January 08, 2007
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A video showing Saddam Hussein shortly after he was executed has emerged on the internet. The video and images from it are shown below. The first uncut, uncensored, unedited video showing Saddam Hussein executed caused quite a stir. Another video of Saddam's funeral has also been making the rounds.
This video does not show the execution. Rather, it shows Saddam's body, proportedly right after he was hanged. The short video simply shows Saddam's corpse under a sheet, and the effects that hanging had on his neck.
The video seems to have first emerged at a Shia website in Arabic, after which it was uploaded to Google.
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Posted by: Dude (Rusty's sock puppet) at January 08, 2007 05:04 PM (JQjhA)
Posted by: Rubin at January 08, 2007 05:55 PM (W5Qf8)
Was it as disgusting as the juba sniper videos, or the beheading videos put out by the koranimals? Was it as disgusting as your fantasies of killing President Bush? Was it as disgusting as Cindy Shehag?
It was so disgusting you did a Google search to find it and watch it, right?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 08, 2007 05:57 PM (abVz3)
They don't show people dying. Just shooting. You just don't like it, because it shows the other side. Big difference
*Or the beheading videos
put out by the koranimals?
Not quite, but close. The big difference is that you rightwings types are so excited about it, thus making you not a whole lot better than the people you hate.
*Was it as disgusting as your fantasies of
killing President Bush?
What? Did Dude express fantasies of killing Bush? Wanting to kill somebody, and simply wishing they were "gone" is a big difference.
Was it as disgusting as Cindy Shehag?
Man... I wish for one second her son the marine would materialize in your little room, and cockpunch you for talking like that about his mom. Yes... watching a hanging video is sick, whereas Cindy Sheehan is not.
Posted by: John at January 08, 2007 06:33 PM (qiTAx)
Posted by: Rubin at January 08, 2007 07:09 PM (K1S7m)
Wrong. Shooting AND dying.
Now the Leftards are going to tell me showing jihad sniper videos on CNN is cool because it's the "unvarnished truth" but showing a dead mass murdering dictator is hate. You sick fucks, I wish it were you in those sniper videos and not our marines.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 08, 2007 07:43 PM (8e/V4)
I just watched the CNN piece. They don’t show the deaths. They
black it out. Go watch your death-porn, and for christsake... don't forget to bring some tissue. You wouldn't want to mess your keyboard up.
Posted by: John at January 08, 2007 08:05 PM (qiTAx)
Posted by: Howie at January 08, 2007 08:31 PM (YHZAl)
I'm due back on planet Earth. Byeeee.
Posted by: John at January 08, 2007 08:46 PM (S3Rzh)
Posted by: dick at January 08, 2007 08:54 PM (DuQSn)
black it out.
Oooooooh, well in that case everything is fine and dandy! LOL. First of all, they don't black it out. They pixelate it so it's a bit fuzzy. They do that so that Leftards like you can watch our marines dying without you having to suffer through all the blood. You're very squeamish in that twisted traitorous way.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 08, 2007 09:13 PM (8e/V4)
We Canadians get to see our troops coming home in coffins every single night on the news. You're not allowed to see stuff like that, cuz it might be bad for your morale. You want this war hidden from your poor eyes so that you don't have to think about who's dying... unless of course it's the "terrerists".
Seriously dude. Why don't you sign up. They're begging for guys like you. Of course... you're either A)too much of a coward. B)don't make the cut. Or C) a scumsucking asshole who let's others do the job they'd don't care to do themselves.
I dare you to tell me why you won't sign. My bet is you won't.
Posted by: John at January 08, 2007 09:21 PM (S3Rzh)
John: You prick. Cindy Sheehan's son is dead because he joined the military to get away from her. Why do you think her husband left as soon as he was killed? Cindy Sheehan's rage is merely a cover for her own guilt. Then some assholes who believe like you started paying the bitch to perform.
My Marine Corps son is sitting right here wishing you were here so he could cockpunch your lights out.
But then again you are Canadian. Pussy.
Posted by: Greyrooster at January 08, 2007 10:02 PM (ovoks)
"Me wanting to punch somebody for pointing out facts of how America screw up. RWAAAAAR"
Seriously folks. You've advocated a policy that has been an utter failure. That you can't even admit it just shows how stupid you are.
And yes... Canadians are pussies. That's why our troops are fighting and dying to finish the job you guys left in Afghanistan to go fuck things up in Iraq.
Posted by: John at January 08, 2007 10:21 PM (S3Rzh)
Having no testicles has made her what she is.
Posted by: matterson at January 08, 2007 11:44 PM (SlFkn)
Two al-Qaeda types one named abu Abbas a terrorist emir, and his assistant a Canadian named John are in a locker room getting ready to take a shower after a long day teaching bomb making classes, when Abbas notices that his buddy John has a huge Cock stuck up his ass.
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Hey John! If you don't mind me asking, said Abbas, "Is that a Huge Cock stuck up your ass?
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John, Sorry to say, it is Abbas.
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Abbas, Damn! that Cock stuck up your ass looks very uncomfortable John, and yet somehow it looks very familar too.
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John, It should you idiot, it's yours Abbas.
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Abbas looks down for his unit in disbelief and crys out, "O My f'n God! for the love of Jesus Moses Allah & Mary and for all that is holy it's not there anymore, Mr. Winky is missing and gone stuck up your ass John!
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Abbas, Why the Hell didn't you tell me this before or ask me to take it out?
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I regret I cannot, lamented John.
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Damn it! I want it back! I do not understand you, why not?!?" said Abbas.
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John answered, It's not that simple Abbas, last night I was taking a walk down along the beach when I ups and trips over an oil lamp. Well instantly there was this big puff of smoke, and then this Huge older looking dude wearing an American flag with a white beard and top hat comes boiling out of the oil lamp.
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Dumbfounded Abbas asked, well what happned next?
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John said, Well when the smoke cleared the Huge Genie said, "I am UNCLE SAM The Genie and I will grant you one wish John."
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John, Well Abbas you can't even imagine my surprise and state of excitment it was like a dream of a lifetime come true, and next thing I'm saying in a high pitched thrilled voice, "No shit Genie??!!
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Uncle Sam the Genie replied, "Why Yes John Your wish will be granted!"
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John, so naturally I says, "Oh Thank You Uncle Sam, GOD BLESS AMERICA!"
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Posted by: OORAH at January 08, 2007 11:45 PM (3xKwa)
I've never heard the chickenhawk thing before. That's a novel approach! So original. You thought of it all on your own? I have no comeback. Really, I'm speechless....... Actually, no I'm not. LOL. A small joke. In case you haven't noticed, nobody has yet stopped supporting the war or our troops because they were called chickenhawks and "cowards" by traitors and Leftists who in fact couldn't be happier when the military comes up short of recruits. Although that hasn't happenned lately. Eligible young rightwingers apparently are signing up in droves, putting their money right where their mouth is. It must drive you nuts.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 08, 2007 11:48 PM (8e/V4)
She's grieving for her dear departed hero Saddam.
Posted by: matterson at January 08, 2007 11:57 PM (SlFkn)
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my thoughts exactly, no way would Aroob aka "John" Ever have the stones to talk her shit to anyone face, certainlly not mine.
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perhaps Aroob the Boob could strap a bomb belt show what she's made of instead of talking pretentious shit in the comments section.
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gutless Canadian immigrant.
Posted by: Rubin at January 09, 2007 12:01 AM (3xKwa)
Now it's funny guys, but while you guys have called me dickless, gay, cowardly, and traitorous, none of you have offered me anything in the way of intelligent arguement. I mean seriously, take a look. There is nothing there.
Carlos, I'm still waiting for an answer. Why haven't you signed up? The military is desperate for new recruits, and needs everyone and anyone they can get their hands on. Why not you?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,240821,00.html
Oorah, even you can join buddy! I hear they may start taking gays!
Honestly guys. I have to stop. I'm not getting anything done.
Posted by: John at January 09, 2007 12:27 AM (S3Rzh)
We better stop now!
Posted by: matterson at January 09, 2007 12:33 AM (SlFkn)
cowardly, and traitorous, none of you have offered me anything in the
way of intelligent arguement.
Nobody using the chickenhawk meme is looking for intelligent argument. It's the anti-argument meme, an attempt to shut down argument. You knew that! But it makes as much sense as telling someone to join the Forest Service if they hate forest fires. You hate fires??? Join the NYPD you big hypocrite!!!!! Soooo schtuuupid. LOL. In case you haven't noticed, it hasn't shut anybody down.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 09, 2007 09:12 AM (8e/V4)
The "disgusting" comment turned out to be a false alarm, but you jumped right in to prove how psychotically vile the left and the islmopithecine cowards are.
"Was it as disgusting as the juba sniper videos?
They don't show people dying. Just shooting. You just don't like it, because it shows the other side. Big difference" (sic.)
As usual, you got the facts wrong, but thanks for proving my point. You squirted in your pants over the sniper videos, but you pull your hair out in frustrated rage over the execution of a genocidal serial rapist. You are a worthless piece of shit, no doubt about it.
*Or the beheading videos put out by the koranimals?
Not quite, but close. The big difference is that you rightwings types are so excited about it, thus making you not a whole lot better than the people you hate.
There is no moral equivalency between terrorists decapitating innocent people and the execution of a monster, nor is there an equivalence between anti-jihadis like me and real jihadis like you. I am without a doubt a whole lot better than you. You're scarcely human.
*Was it as disgusting as your fantasies of killing President Bush?
"What? Did Dude express fantasies of killing Bush? Wanting to kill somebody, and simply wishing they were "gone" is a big difference."
You fantasize daily of killing Bush, and you know it. Why don't you act on your depraved impulse, chickenshit?
Was it as disgusting as Cindy Shehag?
Man... I wish for one second her son the marine would materialize in your little room, and cockpunch you for talking like that about his mom. Yes... watching a hanging video is sick, whereas Cindy Sheehan is not.
If Casey Sheehan were alive, he would doubtlessly cockpunch his transvestite harpy of a mother for betraying him. The foul mouthed harridan has been ghoulishly capitalizing on her son's death to promote her anti-American treason. No... watching a hanging video is not sick, whereas Cindy Sheehag is.
I'm in the Omaha phone book if you ever feel brave enough to leave your igloo and come "cockpunch" me, big mouth.
The reason the Canadian news agencies masturbate over Canadian coffin footage is because they use it as propaganda against the missions in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's the same tactic they used to help turn the public against the Vietnam War--which resulted in the slaughter of 3 million people, and the displacement and "reeducation" of countless more. Only a squirming maggot could support that kind of repulsive propaganda. Why am I not surprised that you diddle yourself over it?
Seriously "dude." Why don't you sign up for Al Qaeda? They're begging for pussies like you. Of course... you're either A) too much of a coward, B)didn't make the cut, or C) a scum-sucking asshole who let's others do the job you don't care to do yourself.
I dare you to tell me why you won't sign. My bet is you won't.
Like all leftards, you're unable to show how America has "screwed up" in Iraq. Saying it doesn't make it so.
You have to be a masochist to keep commenting here. You're nothing but a polemical punching bag, which is a step up from your douche bag status, I suppose. Don't forget to exhale, retard.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 09, 2007 11:18 AM (abVz3)
Barg, dude, relax. Try the dip. You're spitting all over you keyboard.
I hate having to waste time to point this out to you retards, but nobody is crying over Saddam. I think he probably should have died, but the way it was done shows how fucked Iraq is. It was a brutal murder of a dictator by a rival clan. What I'm pointing out here is the fact that you sickos like watching death porn, hence the eager sharing of the latest link.
Now as for the videos. A well-balanced person should enjoy watching videos of anyone dying, regardless of who they are. That you do speaks volumes. And no dude... I don't have fantasize about killing that retarded cretin you voted for. I would just like to see him face justice for lying, and being a shitty president.
I don't even know how to address the Cindy Sheehan issue. That you guys have adopted her as the devil is beyond me. Oh well... you must do what you're told. Imagine a mother demanding a president who threw her son's life away demanding answers, and not just the tittering gibberish that spills from his mouth everyday about "gettin' to the bottom of things", and "staying the course."
And yeah... Canadian propaganda. Yup... that's all it is, and Vietnam is our fault. It was us dropping the bombs on all those people dummy.
Okay dude. I'm going to work. And then yeah... I'll buy a ticket to buttfuck nowhere to punch you. Makes a lotta sense.
Chow freaks.
Posted by: John at January 09, 2007 12:16 PM (S3Rzh)
As usual, there wasn't a single fact or coherent thought in your pointless diatribe. You aren't going to convince any human being to abandon reason and become a shit-eating enemy of humanity like you. The bottom line is that you hate the world's leading light--America--and consistently defend the world's trash--Saddam and the islamopithecine terrorists, etc. No enemy of mankind is too foul for you to embrace. You are a truly disgusting waste of protoplasm, and the sooner you become worm food, the better.
I realize Canada is little more than a socialist lite version of America--minus the unparalleled accomplishments--but Canada was a great country before mutants like you started inbreeding. If you ever find somebody willing to have sex with you, I'll breath a sigh of relief knowing that homosexuals cant breed. Try not to fall off the glacier on your way to your job at the American owned Burger King. Remember that Burger king does it my way, you sub-literate wage slave.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 09, 2007 01:47 PM (abVz3)
Ah well... enjoy your crazy little website... it's pretty much all you guys have left these days now that reality is coming crashing down on your pinheads.
Posted by: John at January 09, 2007 02:09 PM (qiTAx)
Your side has been relegated to ignoring reality with second hand propaganda.
Enjoy your irrelevancy, cock-snort.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 09, 2007 02:56 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: Greyrooster at January 09, 2007 08:30 PM (w+w6p)
Muslims - Check!
Gays - Check!
Asians - Check!
Socialists - Check!
Canadians - Check! (except for BC, which incidently I'm from)
Looks like we have a Grade A asshole here. What's it like to be a stereotypical American prick? Seriously dude, you're like some guy out of a movie who ends up getting covered in shit or something in the end.
Posted by: John at January 09, 2007 09:05 PM (S3Rzh)
Soldiers- Check!
Heterosexuals - Check!
Whites- Check!
Capitalists - Check!
Americans - Check! (except for San Fran Sickos, who also hate all the groups listed above.)
Looks like we have a Grade A asshole here. (Grade A is the kind of A-hole Joke likes to felch the most.) What's it like to be a stereotypical Canadian prig? Seriously "bro," you're like some guy out of a movie who ends up getting covered in shit and apple butter at the end.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 10, 2007 01:26 PM (abVz3)
I answered John's 'chickenhawk' charge on an earlier thread, but he wimped out, and ran here, so I guess there isn't any 'hawk' where he is concerned. It must be pure chicken.
BC? That's a nice drive, and I like Calgary.
Anyway, I could care less about watching Saddam dance. That was the topic, and we shouldn't let losers like John be such a distraction.
I didn't watch any of the Saddam hanging vids. I do like watchiong Canadians kill taleban though. Anybody remember that link?
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 13, 2007 12:56 AM (2OHpj)
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Posted by: zdryfv lvwuq at June 07, 2007 03:25 PM (Cxi7r)
January 02, 2007

One thing that struck me is how similar some of these images are to the snuff videos that the enemy produces. Saddam used terror to hold onto power. The terrorists use the same methods.
Our original post on this matter is here.
The original videos are available here.
Quote from Newsmax via Free Republic:
* Video tapes of two beheadings, with one featuring the executioners singing "Happy Birthday, Saddam" in Arabic as they carry out the grisly murder.Actually I feld bad for Saddam. His last statement from via his Lawyers was touching. However, it lacked one thing. Saddam could have asked for and end to the fighting that claims so many Iraq lives. But he did not, that shows more than anything how much he "cared" about the lives of his people. So my moment of sympathy for him was short lived.
* More video of a detainee whose hand his tied to a board while his fingers are cut off one by one.* People being thrown off four-story buildings, including one who was forced to wear a Superman costume.
* A man scourged ninety-nine times.
* Videos of babies being gassed to death.
The AP's own count taken from news reports put the total at 13,738. The story fails to mention that the enemy's deliberate targeting of non combatants is a war crime. It is an aspect of the story the media has avoided since the war began. Yet, the same media gets all excited when US forces accidentally kill civilians while searching for enemy troops who are camouflaged as civilians. It is an extraordinary double standard that they adhere to shamelessly.more...
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Incidentially, I have not watched the Saddam hanging, nor do I intend to. It's enough for me to know the bastard is dead.
Posted by: templar knight at January 02, 2007 12:45 PM (634o6)
These are the same people who supported the jihadi sniper videos on CNN. We mustn't censor the truth, they said. Now look at them. Leftards should all eat shit and die.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 01:00 PM (8e/V4)
No huge comments, or any desperate cut and paste.
Just this teaser:
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein was an avid reader, fed birds and told jokes while he was in US custody, an American military nurse who looked after him said in interviews with US media.
Link:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070102/pl_afp/iraqexecutionsaddamus_070102153301
And remeber guys, this is only the beggining. The MSM left will want to paint a new legacy for SADDAMN, and are off to a wonderful start. Such a sweet guy, he even fed the little birdies ... AAWWWWH!
BTW, I haven't watched the vid either. It's just good to know this awful example of a human being is gone.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 02, 2007 01:28 PM (2OHpj)
Posted by: Northern Cross at January 02, 2007 01:43 PM (gUvu0)
Posted by: Frank Hunter at January 02, 2007 02:50 PM (OWT5s)
Yes, he also had people fed feet first into plastic shredders, but let's remember his 'kindness' to birds..
Posted by: davec at January 02, 2007 03:01 PM (yaQM4)
reports that U.S. officials tried to delay the execution out of fears
that it would be "more about Shiite retribution and less about
justice".
But wait, I thought the Iraqis do our bidding and the execution was being controlled by Karl Rove. I guess not. If you have a problem with Saddam's demise, talk the good muslims who executed him. But nooooo, it's still all about "Bush." My god these Leftards are retarded.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 05:05 PM (8e/V4)
Who doesn't read a lot and feed birds when they're in solitary. MSM dumbasses.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 05:08 PM (8e/V4)
Posted by: Leatherneck at January 02, 2007 05:53 PM (ZOc4K)
Sunni insurgency has an increase in funding from outside Sunnis angry at the US for allowing or enabling the Shia vengeance, that's a defeat. It's Jesusland whose in "political denial" charitably put.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at January 02, 2007 06:08 PM (DZbll)
I believe that's called begging the question. But Saddam's execution-- despite U.S. wishes-- has put that question soundly to rest. We can see for ourselves that the Iraqis do as they please, and they needed no prodding from "Bush" to put Saddam in shackles and then the gallows.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 06:27 PM (8e/V4)
Yes, if you put aside that pesky '3,000 people dead in a terrorist attack' event. Your thoughts must literally claw themselves up from your their inner-sanctum in the rectum, to your fingertips.
Posted by: davec at January 02, 2007 06:38 PM (yaQM4)
Saddam had no part in 9/11 and Bush using that obfuscation as helpful aide has won him scorn worldwide-and undermined the
longer "war on terror" by bringing early a healthy dose of cynicism-
cum -taedium to the American public whose support for its early phase stands at about 20%
Posted by: KEN HOOP at January 02, 2007 07:52 PM (7GYBH)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 09:30 PM (8e/V4)
Posted by: DAT at January 02, 2007 10:21 PM (3yXqP)
Posted by: Greyrooster at January 03, 2007 09:41 AM (cJw/p)
rated unsafe. Anbar province still insurgency-controlled.
A spoke of Bush's "axis of evil", Iran, with dominant influence
in the new government.
Yeah, liberated..not even as much as East Germany was after
the US did its "liberation" thing in WW2.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at January 03, 2007 04:35 PM (7GYBH)
Ken,
it's too late in the day for me to play Leftard word games with you. Suffice it to say that safe and liberated don't mean the same thing.
Posted by: Marcos Zuniga at January 03, 2007 06:11 PM (8e/V4)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 03, 2007 06:12 PM (8e/V4)
"Former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein was an avid reader, fed birds and told jokes while he was in US custody, an American military nurse who looked after him said in interviews with US media."
AFTER MSM EDITING
"Former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein was an avid reader of Mien Kampf, fed birds into shredders, and told holocaust jokes while he was pampered in US custody, an American military nurse who had to look at him, said in interviews with Liberal Biased media."
Just kidding, but it was 'truthy' wasn't it?
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 03, 2007 06:38 PM (2OHpj)
Without elemetary safety ,no one is free. And I'm a Right
Nationalist of the Buchanan mold except unlike he, I made
a permanent break with the GOP and the two party system
long ago. Your faux neoconservatism discredits the real
thing, found in amconmag.com.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at January 03, 2007 08:11 PM (7GYBH)
Posted by: Max Power at January 03, 2007 10:07 PM (PM8kH)
Posted by: alex at January 03, 2007 10:29 PM (71zzi)
Law, yes. But not order. Democracy is messy, especially emerging democracies.
If you want "order" go to North Korea. They got plenty of that.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 04, 2007 08:44 AM (8e/V4)
First the Taliban were wiped out, and now Saddam is dead. Assad in Syria and the Mullahs in Iran are next. The nuclear option for North korea has been on the table since 911. The islamopithecines and the left are running out of heroes, and they're terrified. Your panic is all too clear to see. (Yes, you're a de facto leftist at the very least. Buchananite paleocons are so far to the right they've circled to the left. Except for illegal immigration, their foreign policies of appeasement and cowering are the same--not that I actually believe you're a libertarian paleocon.)
The sunnis and other terrorists in Iraq aren't acting up as much as they were. They're quaking in fear. They're starting to realize that if they get their wish, and they're able to push the America-last left into abandoning Iraq, there will be no Americans there to protect them from the shites and Kurds--who make up 80% of the population. They also have no sunni leader to long for, and realize they may end up dead just like him.
The so called world community is also starting to come to grips with reality. America is benevolent, but our patience is no longer unlimited.
Saddam's execution, though carried out by Iraq, is seen as a huge victory for the Bush Doctrine, and the left is shitting itself with spin. The Orwellian attempt to spin it into a failure isn't working, and even Harry Gollum Reid was meek and non-confrontational when he accepted leadership of the Senate today.
Reality is starting to set in. Suck it up, Ken.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 04, 2007 11:31 AM (abVz3)
Posted by: Greyrooster at January 04, 2007 12:18 PM (gKESr)
He (unreliable reliapundit) has been crowing that Syria and Iran are on the ropes for two years because of the brilliant Bush strategy.
No, they're stronger than ever,as any neutral commentator will
tell you as is Hezbollah in Lebanon.America's military is stretched
thin and tattered-if Bush attacks Iran, say goodbye to the exposed
troops in Iraq,courtesy alSadr/Sistani Shias who have vowed to
protect Iran. The Sunni insurgency is resilent and skimming off
significant oil profits to subsidize itself. They will be given
amnesty by the new Iraqi government ,including killers of US
troops, as a pre-requisite for peace. The sooner the better
unless you wish more US casualties.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at January 04, 2007 02:39 PM (DZbll)
Posted by: Ken Hoop at January 04, 2007 02:40 PM (DZbll)
You're severely reality challenged, even by P.C. leftist standards.
Mosy of hizb' allah's terrorist cannon fodder were wiped out by the IDF several months ago.
Syria has never been strong. When baby Assad took over when poppa died, it got even weaker. Turkey and Israel are both fed up with Assad. American troops are on his Southern border ready to rock, and his army is a joke.
Amadjihad in Iran just had every single one his candidates get their asses kicked in general elections. The people are calling for the ouster of the mullahs openly, and the police and army refuse to obey the ayatollah's orders and crack down on them. Their continued nuclear weapons program guarantees a military response from President Bush, as he has vowed many times.
Our military is not stretched at all, and Mook al Sadass couldn't protect an apple from a worm.
The sunis are neither well funded nor well organized, and continue to live at the tolerance of the Kurds and shites. They are not getting ANY money from oil revenue--it's one of the reasons they're pissed off, you raging ignoramus--and they will not be given any amnesty, which you would know if you followed the real news instead of moonbat propaganda.
Only you leftards enjoy U.S. casualties. If 3000 Americans die killing hundreds of thousands of terrorists, that's unfortunate, but hardly a sign of failure.
How are things in FantasyLand, asshole?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 05, 2007 11:54 AM (abVz3)
Sunni insurgent ranks and money rated it stronger than ever
and with many years left of fight in it. Turkey and Syria are
on good terms--and polls taken of Iranians show even those
opposed to the Islamic conservatives defend their nation's
aspirations for nuclear energy.
How are things well out of harm's way, moron? Makes it a little
easier to ignore when another thousand or so are tacked on
to the US troop losses-which can be avoided if they are
methodically brought home, but not if they stay in another year's worth of quagmire.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at January 05, 2007 05:16 PM (7GYBH)
Jeff has a lot more going for him than he gets credit for. By way of example, he understands that any withdrawal that is not the result of a clear US victory, will make things worse. Jeff is dead accurate when he says that Ken Hoop is living in a fantasy land. Ken thinks the bad guys won't chase you if you run away, but anyone knows we have no place to run even if we were such limp and feeble cowards as would do such a thing.
The world is to small to run away and hide. A dedicated predator will always dig juicy prey from its hole. Ken thinks we can come home, dig a deep tunnel and hide there. If Ken, and the other isolationists think non-engagement works, then I suggest they try non-engageing here. But hey, lets suppose Ken is right, and worms can crawl deep enough to avoid being eaten. DOES ANYONE HERE WANT TO BE A WORM? I mean besides Ken.
No isolationist can be properly regarded as understanding modern jet/atomic age geopolitics. The world is to small, and to close together.
Ken likes "Baker" realism, which reminds me of the realism of another famous man named Neville Chamberlain. Its basically the same thing. Go to the local dictator, and get him to give you his word he won't fuck things up. Get him to sign something, That will look real good.
Of course afterwards we all know you have trouble, because the dictator will lie! They always do! The realists will pave the road to success for the dictator, and then all hell breaks loose. OH THANK YOU FUCKING REALISTS! Thanks! For letting dozens of millions die because you couldn't find your balls with both hands, a compass, and a copy of "Courage for Dummies"!
If Ken doesn't know his world history, he has no business at all calling anyone "an ill-informed dunce".
Please note, that to Ken, if your not active duty military, but support victory for our boys who are, your a "Chicken Hawk". Your opinion on the war doesn't count! You may have family, or friends fighting. You may have a defense industry job. You may just read the paper and vote your conscience. But your all "Chicken hawks" to hypocrite Ken. Oh he likes to blather on about his opinion on the war, but I doubt he has built any Iraqi schools, or trained any Iraqi forces either. He is an "isolationist chicken." Hiding under his blanket believing the world won't come and eat his chicken ass.
Oh yeah, read him and weep.
I was just talking to one of my friends from over there, a Marine. I listened to him, not Nancy 'Appeasement' Pelosi, or John 'Treason;' Murtha. Nor John 'stuck in denial' Kerry. And my friend would never, ever call me a 'chicken hawk.' I think he needs to read Mr Hoop because I don't think he got to know any appeasing cowards while with his unit in combat. It might amuse him to see how evolved cowards have become. Now instead of crying for mommy, they cry for James Baker. Since neither has a dick, I suppose its a fair comparison.
So come on back Ken, if your reading this. Tell us again how giving the sweet adorable dictators concessions will lead to lasting peace. Tell us how we can tuck tale, and not savage our national morale, or that of our fighting men. Tell us oh great and wise priest of the isolationists. Tell us, oh he who says 'its not my problem'! Make the bad men go away with nice words from your mouth oh great god of 'realism'! SHOW US THE WAY!!!!
No really! Come on and tell us what we need to give the hateful bastards who run these little totalitarian regimes! Should we gift wrap our concessions first, or should we just send them clutched to the naked breasts of our virgin daughters? Do you think thats enough? Gosh, maybe we should all convert to Islam while were at it. I bet that will appease some of them, if we pick the proper sect.
In case you hadn't noticed, I'm sick of the runny sewer sludge that passes for ethical leadership from any appeaser, or isolationist, or defeatist. I could give a big bean burritto crap which party they are affiliated with. And I'd like to make them eat one!
So what do we sacrifice Ken? do you have your crappy arguement about 'sacrificing our troops' ready! Well don't bother,. If we actually fought, instead of trying to dance, we wouldn't lose troops. War would be half as dangerous as driving in Detroit, or Montana.
So what do we sacrifice Ken? Our national honor may mean nothing to you, but to us it goes with self respect. We respect ourselves, our boys, and the republic they represent. Their honor is not for sale to some dictator who supports hanging a teenage girl for holding a boys hand in public. Not one of our Marines would stand for it given a choice, but you would see them ORDERED TO DO JUST THAT!
What do we sacrifice Ken? Do we sacrifice this chance to keep our dog in the fight, where the effort to prevent a world war may actually succeed?, or do we sacrifice dozens of millions later because we hid under a blanket of delusions, and lies and did nothing?
I will never support Ken Hoop's brand of weakness. I grant him only that I recall he seems to support troops on the Mexican border, and at least that sounds like it is doing something besides hiding.
Don't hide! Go out and meet the enemy head on!
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 06, 2007 01:05 AM (2OHpj)
slightly to the right of Buchanan. The US Empire IS "the bad guys,"
conducting an immoral and illegal war in Iraq. And a no-win war.
Naturally I prefer Baker's realism to the Israel-first neconservatism
that captured Bush. I don't need to tell you, the majority of
military men oppose the "surge." The Military Times poll of US
troops shows only a modest minority of them still support Bush
or his concept of the mission. And the GOP support/membership
of military has dipped to 46%.
American intervention in the Mideast? Hell no! If we had the kind
of "ruling class" writ large that would force Israel off the West
Bank as surely as forcing, say, Saddam out of Kuwait, I still
wouldn't support intervention, though the Moslem/Arab world
might have a more complacent attitude about it.
We were put on notice in the 1970s to develop our own
energy sources and if we had, we wouldn't have the excuse
of intervening. Islamic enemies chasing us here if we left?
The propaganda of the military industrial complex and
those to whom Israel's security is paramount. Of an equal
verity as LBJ's warning we would be fighting the Reds in
Los Angeles if we didn't beat them in Vietnam.
America WILL come home. Hopefully without and before major losses in an expanded Mideast cauldron.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at January 06, 2007 04:27 PM (DZbll)
You keep referencing the leftist media spun information as a source. The Military Times poll is suspect because of the handling of it, from beggining to end. That includes its misrepresentation by others, and the lack of context. It is like a zogby poll, only slightly more trustworthy. Widen your search.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 06, 2007 06:08 PM (2OHpj)
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I am quite happy to see Saddam get what was coming to him. Sic semper tyrannus.
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Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 30, 2006 07:29 PM (8e/V4)
Thanks for this public service. Since this was done at least in large part in America's name, it's nice to see this barbarian's weak spine broke by the Iraqi nation. May Iraq finally have some peace.
Posted by: SVC Alumnus at December 30, 2006 07:50 PM (EpYpQ)
Better Audio the video part is similar to the others I've seen, the Shiiat are yelling Mohammed [piss be upon him] ...But Saddam's words are much clearer. I'm guessing that the Offical vid will be avalible soon.
Posted by: Rubin at December 30, 2006 08:05 PM (78Ewn)
this one's audio is much clearer [vid isn't]
Better Audio just like the others I've seen You can hear the Shiiat yelling Mohammed [piss be upon him] But Saddam's words are better heard.
Posted by: Rubin at December 30, 2006 08:07 PM (78Ewn)
You're right. The constant "Muhammad, Muhammad, Muhammad," was the most disturbing part of the video. I think I only Heard "allah" mentioned once or twice.
It's bad enough that the islamopithecines think God rewards murder and mayhem, but it's obvious that they worship Muhammad. When they're not worshiping that crusty rock in that cube thing.
The MsM doesn't want to tarnish islame's "peaceful" image. Notice that before 911, no mention was ever made in the news about travesties like "ramadan," or the equally incosequential "haj" pilgrimage to Mecca. After the koranimals murder 3000 Americans, we get daily coverage of both, told in hushed tones of reverence by the likes of Christine Imamanapour dressed in muslime clothing--despite the fact that she's nowhere near the "forbidden" city of Mecca. Imams in the White House, koranimal holidays on our calenders, muslime sensitivity training (terrorist sensitivity training,) hollywood movies about Anglo Saxon and South American terrorists, an islamopithecine Congressman, schoolchildren forced to mock convert to islame, special legal privileges for islamopithecines, et., etc., etc.
The barbaric murder of 3000 innocent people has really gotten the left (and President Bush,) to embrace islame. The MsM is busy trying to mainstream a death cult that used to be distant. Once associated only with suicide bombers, camel herders and other backwards flea-scratchers, it's now portrayed as being a major force in American life. As if 3000 koranimals out of a population of 300 million is significant.
How often do journalists refer to the Bible as the Holy Bible? Never, right? How often do they refer to the koran as the "holy" koran? Every chance they get.
Our big brothers in the MsM should be swinging next to Hussein.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 30, 2006 08:12 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: Stanley at December 30, 2006 08:24 PM (wGmDB)
what is wrong with these filthy subhuman arabs? can not one SINGLE one hold a damn camera properly?? i got seasick watching this video as apparently the cameraman was also swinging by the neck filiming it...
sheesh. so much for a great video.
Posted by: Jeremy Givens at December 30, 2006 08:41 PM (Nhfns)
Reminds me of Ceauchescu, when he was taken out back and shot against the wall. Sadness that we have to have violence, tempered by an odd satisfaction at seeing jerks like Hussein taken down. The images of the Romanian madman lying dead sparked a wave of reform revolt against the Soviet.
Will the Iraqis please get it together now.
Posted by: glezzery at December 30, 2006 08:44 PM (w/9Rv)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 30, 2006 09:03 PM (8e/V4)
Let's pray for our troops and for the Iraqi people...and for justice to be served to the murderers among them.
Posted by: Richard Romano at December 30, 2006 09:03 PM (/2Xsz)
Posted by: ArchAngel at December 30, 2006 09:19 PM (4gmWq)
Nothing gets the moral compass of left out of whack like the swift and deserved death of a Jew-hating, anti-American tyrant.
Posted by: Good Lt at December 30, 2006 10:39 PM (D0TMh)
Posted by: eman at December 30, 2006 11:31 PM (FWrFx)
let the arab world take note !
lets see the pictures of the shit in his panties and 1 inch dick
Posted by: rob at December 30, 2006 11:51 PM (jaQRE)
Either way, I'm glad its over and history continues to be made one minute at a time. I know this whole episode in time has been painful for so many but look at progress rather than perfection.
Posted by: Tommy Scott at December 31, 2006 02:52 AM (gxAae)
if saddam is killer .what should we say about boosh and sharoon...they kill more than 10 palestinains every day ...
bush thinks that he is a peace man ..but ..he cant see hoe many people are dieng in iraq every day becouse of him ,,he killed more people in iraq than saddam did ,,so dont u think thet he shuld be hunged also ?????????????
i wish bush and shroon well be the next..
Posted by: abla at December 31, 2006 05:59 AM (JUfpr)
bush is a murder ....all of them are murders ...they are killers ...
all of them should be hunged .
Posted by: bolbol at December 31, 2006 06:04 AM (JUfpr)
if any one hve a sout ,then he should see how many palestinain dies every day becouse israel kills them ..
for all the people in the world please ..open ur eyes and see the truth ..just try to count how many peole israel kills every day ..and u well see it
Posted by: adam at December 31, 2006 06:14 AM (S2tLZ)
if any one have doubt.. ,then he should see how many palestinain dies every day becouse israel kills them ..
for all the people in the world please ..open ur eyes and see the truth ..just try to count how many peole are killed by israel every day ..and u well see it
Posted by: adam at December 31, 2006 06:18 AM (S2tLZ)
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Posted by: Darth Odie Sidiousness at December 31, 2006 09:16 AM (YdcZ0)
Nothing underscores the Right's disconnect from reality as their glee over the mass murderer killed by the goons in the ski masks shouting "Moqtada", Moqtada being the next big mass murderer in this country. The Bastard is dead, long live The New Bastard!
What is here not to celebrate?
Posted by: Nikolay at December 31, 2006 09:47 AM (f2+o3)
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Posted by: Potato Pete at December 31, 2006 10:33 AM (Cbtur)
The funny thing is that these stupid camel jockey trolls actually believe all that Jooo conspiracy nonsense. It's no wonder the leaders in the Middle East try to deflect all their countries' deficiencies on Dem Jooos and dat Bush, but really--how fucking stupid do you have to be to believe that crap?
Arabs are the stupidest people on the planet. Next they'll denounce Bin Loser as a Zionist stooge.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 10:45 AM (abVz3)
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Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 31, 2006 11:22 AM (8e/V4)
916 service members have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan this year.
A total of 2998 service members have been killed in Iraq.
A total of 22,235 service members maimed or wounded with many missing one or more limbs.
One in every ten soldiers are hospitalized with mental problems.
Costing 380 billion dollars so far all of which is borrowed money adding to the 9 trillion dollar debt.
All for removing one man from an office?
All countries should be jumping on the democracy bandwagon any moment now.
Posted by: civilbehavior at December 31, 2006 11:38 AM (SGHzB)
I just wish our American cousins would remember that there are many more nations in Iraq than them whose families at home are losing loved ones - including us Brits.
That said, this is a good day for all!!
Posted by: Mark at December 31, 2006 11:45 AM (SMXH0)
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall
pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend,
oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of
liberty.
John F. Kennedy
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 31, 2006 11:54 AM (8e/V4)
They chant "Muhammad" first, "Moqtada" later. But this surely means nothing for someone protected from reality by the imagination.
Posted by: Nikolay at December 31, 2006 11:55 AM (m8XvX)
They chant "Muhammad" first, "Moqtada" later. But this surely means nothing for someone protected from reality by the imagination.
Posted by: Nikolay at December 31, 2006 11:55 AM (f2+o3)
You only have to read the some of the vile and disgusting comments posted above by the likes of Jeff Bargholz to know that sectarian attitudes will continue to prevail in every country in the world - including the so-called "civilized democracies".
Executing one dictator will only add fuel to the fire of racial and religious hatred and intolerance.
Saddam was a wicked and evil man that inflicted huge pain and misery on countless thousands of people - a vile and disgusting man.
To use his death as a soapbox to promte your own particular brand of jingoistic bitter hatred is just as vile.
Posted by: Andrew at December 31, 2006 11:58 AM (YDcMR)
All Saddam had to do was let weapons inspectors do their jobs and he would have been left alone. I guess he made a poor choice. WE told him and the rest of the world to comply or else. Let this be a lesson to the rest of the world. F*%k with us and you die. 9/11 awakened the sleeping giant. Thanks to our founders I'm armed, locked, and loaded. Bring it on!
Posted by: Howie Feltersnatch at December 31, 2006 12:01 PM (gxAae)
He had a skewed, vile, disgusting, jingoistic, hate filled, insular and repulsive attitude to the world around him which could do nothing other infect others and lead to more violence - Hang on I'm confused now as to whether I'm writing about Saddam or about the obviously supremely intelligent Jeff Bargholz?!
Posted by: Andrew at December 31, 2006 12:10 PM (YDcMR)
You know, I don't support torturers, mass murderers and terrorists no matter how many family members they have lost. And there's nothing "leftist" about this, these are the same feelings that normal Iraqis (you know, secular ones, not the religious fanatics that are in power now) have.
I have absolutely no pity for Saddam, it's only too bad they didn't finish him three years ago, Chaushesku-style.
If you think Mooktada is going to become the next big mass murderer (a redundant phrase,) you're...ahem! Disconnected from reality. He's going to become the next big corpse.
Cool. Do you really believe this nonsense? Sure, Moqtada will be a corpse soon, and the glorious Badr brigade will help turn the country into the majestic Islamic nation, in the name of God, the merciful, the passionate, and blessing upon Prophet Mohammed and his purified family and his loyal companions.
You really enjoy opposing the world's moral compass and leading light, don't you?
Sure, if you're talking about Moqtada Al-Sadr. Being happy about the execution means being happy about Al-Sadr's triumph, make no mistakes about this.
Posted by: Nikolay at December 31, 2006 12:15 PM (f2+o3)
"Hey Jeff, isn't it great to be so much more intelligent than stupid camel jockey trolls and not be one of the stupidest people on the planet?"
It doesn't suck. It also beats being a member of the America-last left, who are probably the second stupidist group of assholes on the planet. After all, you dolts believe President Bush is the main cause of all evil in the world, with dem Jooos placing a close second. The only difference between your enemy list and the dune coons' enemy list is the order of the top two enemies.
The third enemy on your lists is the same: Honesty.
What? You thought you guys had a monopoly on smugness?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 12:28 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: Max Power at December 31, 2006 12:35 PM (PM8kH)
If it were a snuff film of President Bush you would be masturbating to it furiously, so spare me your mock moral outrage.
Don't you have a baby to abort, or some other genocidal tyrants to defend from justice? Kim Jong Ill, Robert Mugabe, Fidel Castro, and the murderous mullahs in Iran are still alive and they all need your help. I wouldn't want to keep you from your ethically superior pursuits.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 12:35 PM (abVz3)
What the crowd chants is an invocation that roughly translates "Salutations upon Mohammad and his descendents."
This mention of Mohammad's "descendents" indicates that the chanting crowd are in fact Shiite. [Since the Shiite/Sunni schism in Islam began with the question of who should succeed Mohammad.]
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at December 31, 2006 12:37 PM (Bd48Z)
"Save Tookie", "Save Troy Kunkle", "Save David Hill", "Save Robin Lovitt", don't kill Saddam let's put him in prison for life!!
Lets give mercy, to people who killed in cold blood, ripped apart family, and destroyed the life of children without sparing a moments thought, then ask me to think of the murderers family! think of his children! think of the suffering of the murderer!
You people are fucking sick, and I have no clue how you sleep at night.
Posted by: davec at December 31, 2006 12:41 PM (yaQM4)
"Nothing underscores the Right's disconnect from reality as their glee over the mass murderer killed by the goons in the ski masks shouting "Moqtada", Moqtada being the next big mass murderer in this country. The Bastard is dead, long live The New Bastard!
What is here not to celebrate?"-Nikolay the Mad Moonbat
I believe you just proved the Good Lt's point, dillrod. Nothing underscores the leftist fringe's disconnect from reality more than their despair over the mass murderer killed by the family members of the victims he was convicted of murdering.
If you think Mooktada is going to become the next big mass murderer (a redundant phrase,) you're...ahem! Disconnected from reality. He's going to become the next big corpse.
You really enjoy opposing the world's moral compass and leading light, don't you? You never miss an opportunity to attack America and defend the world's monsters and basket cases. You're such a fucking dickwad.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 12:46 PM (abVz3)
Your comments section, on the other hand, reminded me of why the Iraq war has been a failure despite the small side benefit of a Saddam snuff film. "Operation Iraqi Freedom" you called it. All you good, honorable, right-thinking patriots who talk about "dune coons", "filthy subhuman arabs", "islamopithecines", and "koranimals", and lust for more thoroughly medieval torture sessions for our enemies... aren't you the same folks who cared so deeply about bringin' the sweet freedom and democracy to the middle east three years ago?
Funny thing about the overwhelming majority of people in the world who aren't impressed by President Bush's leadership... we aren't stupid. We know Orwellian propaganda slogans when we hear them. We also recognize that that people who cheerlead for torture are scumbags, regardless of which flag they salute.
Posted by: Random passerby at December 31, 2006 12:50 PM (rKiqC)
Posted by: Howard at December 31, 2006 12:58 PM (yQSuX)
Do you?
Posted by: Random Passerby at December 31, 2006 01:02 PM (rKiqC)
Yes, we believe you care about American soldiers and fiscal reposibility in our government.
It's too bad that most of the world's terrorists are dying like flies in Iraq. They should be over here blowing up buildings.
American forces now have Syria and Iran surrounded. Such a shame.
A far higher proportion of Iraqis showed up for their elections than Americans did for our last two, and they were under threat of death. Yeah, nobody wants to jump on the democracy bandwagon.
Nobody deserves democracy besides leftists, right? The rest of us should do what you imbeciles decree, including the Iraqis. You better tell the millions of islamopithecines in countries like Egypt, Lebanon, Iran, etc., to stop whining about democracy enjoy their oppression. We need more terrorist factories, right?
Hussein is dead. Boo fuckin' hoo.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 01:04 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 01:07 PM (abVz3)
I wonder if Bush or Blair would've met their end with such courage. For all of those calling for torture: you are no better than him.
Posted by: william at December 31, 2006 01:10 PM (6egli)
It must be great being honestly more intelligent than a stupid camel jockey troll and not one of the stupidest people on the planet and neither a member of the America-last left, who are probably the second stupidist group of assholes on the planet.
Posted by: ja at December 31, 2006 01:18 PM (DXKqE)
This guy:
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/nitric_acid_drips.php
under Saddam's nitric acid shower calls bullshit on you.
That's if his remains weren't just dug out of a mass grave, you're pathetic, calling Saddam "brave" and "dignified", Saddam was resolved to the fact he was about to die, pretty much like the multitude who was taken to their grave under his orders.
Posted by: davec at December 31, 2006 01:37 PM (yaQM4)
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Posted by: Laura at December 31, 2006 01:39 PM (SsxYL)
Try not to be such a hypocritical prig. You moral relativists have been spouting that cycle of violence bullshit for decades now, and it doesn't smell any better than when you started. There is no excuse for defending tyrants, genocidal or otherwise. History is replete with nations improving after the removal of tyrants. Try selling your defeatist bullshit to the Japanese, Germans, Italian, Cambodians, Afghans, or even the Iraqis.
If it were up to pricks like you, the American Revolution would never have been fought and won.
Sectarian violence does NOT prevail in every country in the world, you ignoramus. The very notion is absurd. It doesn't even prevail in Iraq. There is no sunni or shite Constitution or government in Iraq, and the sectarian violence is relegated to a few key areas. Your plagiarized civil war scenario has always been a leftist wet dream, not a reality.
I strongly suspect you don't know the definition of "sectarian." Religious denominations are not warring in the streets of the world. In fact, the only "religion" engaged in sectarian attacks at all is islame.
Cowards like you think you can appease the implacable islamopithecines. You think leaving them to their own devices will make us safer. Leaving them to their own devices led to 30 years worth of terrorist attacks against America, culminating in 911.
Since you probably aren't an American, and you're definetly a vile and disgusting excuse for a human being, you probably think we deserved it. Try to remember that Britain, France, Spain Thailand Indonesia, Sudan, Argentina, Canada, and just about every other country on the planet has been the target of terrorist attacks as well. These attacks will not stop unless we stop them forcibly. Appeasement hasn't worked once in the 1400 year history of islame, and it never will. Islamic doctrine prohibits peace with the non-muslim world. It states that jihad is the path to Heaven, and that refusal to embrace this pillar of islam results in eternal damnation. Not that you understand the basic tenets of the religion you're cowering from.
The terrorist attacks against the "infidel" world were not carried out to force a Coalition withdrawal from Iraq. Most of them predate the Coalition presence there, and after all, the terrorists are not flocking to Iraq to aid their fellow islamopithecines--they are flocking there to kill them. If you had your way, they would have a free hand to do so.
"Saddam was a wicked and evil man that inflicted huge pain and misery on countless thousands of people - a vile and disgusting man."
A vile and disgusting man who would still be in power if the likes of you had their way. To use his death as a soapbox to promte your own particular brand of bitter, anti-American hatred is just as vile. Only a reprobate defines national interest and humanitarianism as "jigoism."
The monster Saddam Hussein is dead, Iraq wants the Coalitionan to stay and finish the job, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. Here's looking at you loser: sucking my dick.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 01:56 PM (abVz3)
He had a skewed, vile, disgusting, traitorous, hate filled, cowardly, insular and repulsive attitude to the world around him which could do nothing other than infect others and lead to tolerating and excusing more violence against the innocent - Hang on, I'm confused now as to whether I'm writing about Saddam or about the obviously galactically stupid Andrew?!
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 02:09 PM (abVz3)
looked like another Islamofascist snuff video.
vile and disgusting,
Posted by: tim at December 31, 2006 02:09 PM (AOvmM)
I´m not an american. I´m not an iraquer. In come from Norway. Im an ordinary norwegian girl, 19 years old.
My mum.. She feelt sorry for him. We have had an arguemnt, men i can not unserstand her point. Because this person is evil. And he will always be. But now we are free for him.
He is finally in hell - where he belongs!
Posted by: Stine at December 31, 2006 02:12 PM (Fbq4S)
"You know, I don't support torturers, mass murderers and terrorists no matter how many family members they have lost."
What makes you assume the people present at the execution were torturers, mass murderers and terrorists? I know you want to believe that they were praying to Mooktada, but the shites Saddam was convicted of killing decades ago were not followers of the mook, shit for brains.
By the way, did you bother to read Garduneh's translation of the tape, or are you fluent in Arabic now, dipshit?
Hussein is dead and iraqis are rejoicing. There's nothing "right-wing" about this, these are the same feelings that normal Iraqis (very few of whom are secular,) have.
You have absolute sympathy for Saddam, or you wouldn't be apoplectic over his execution. You only think it's too bad they didn't finish him three years ago, Ceausescu-style because you would have preferred his death to be unremarkable and forgotten. It burns your moonbat ass that he now serves as a glaring reminder to the islamopithecine world of what happens when you fuck with America, as Howie feltersnatch so rightly pointed out.
"Cool. Do you really believe this nonsense? Sure, Moqtada will be a corpse soon, and the glorious Badr brigade will help turn the country into the majestic Islamic nation, in the name of God, the merciful, the passionate, and blessing upon Prophet Mohammed and his purified family and his loyal companions."
Sure. The mook got that seat in the government he wanted, and Alawi and Bush love him. He's a hero of the people. And you're a rational, decent human being.
"Sure, if you're talking about Moqtada Al-Sadr. Being happy about the execution means being happy about Al-Sadr's triumph, make no mistakes about this."
Sure, and you always post comments here criticizing the mook and praising America. The mook didn't execute hussein genius, and I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for him to seize power.
Even by leftist standards, you're hopelessly retarded.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 02:29 PM (abVz3)
So what made them shout "Moqtada, Moqtada!"? These pictures gives me as much satisfaction as would the picture of Stalin executed by people shouting "Heil Hitler". You can also read post at Gates of Vienna to understand what is so disgusting about this video. Gates of Vienna is hardly a lefty blog.
By the way, did you bother to read Garduneh's translation of the tape, or are you fluent in Arabic now, dipshit?
Yes, I did bother to read translations. Why do you swear all the time?
Sure. The mook got that seat in the government he wanted, and Alawi and Bush love him. He's a hero of the people. And you're a rational, decent human being.
Great. So Bush _did not_ invite Al-Sadr to the White House, he only invited the leader of Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution and of Badr Brigade, and Al-Sadr has only six seats in the government and PM as his good friend, so the things are not really that bad after all.
Sure, and you always post comments here criticizing the mook and praising America. The mook didn't execute hussein genius, and I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for him to seize power.
I don't post that many comments here. There's many reasons to praise America, but its politics in Iraq is not one of them. Al-Sadr didn't execute Saddam, his thugs did.
Then why wasn't that reported? Why was only "Moqtada" reported?
An interesting question, given the fact that it _was_ reported.
Posted by: Nikolay at December 31, 2006 02:40 PM (f2+o3)
They chant "Muhammad" first, "Moqtada" later.
Then why wasn't that reported? Why was only "Moqtada" reported?
You already know the answer.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 31, 2006 02:57 PM (8e/V4)
hatred, whilst shackled like an animal, he remained defiant, dignified
and brave.
Yes, a true hero in your eyes.
I have no doubt the Left would have said exactly the same thing about Hitler had we captured him.
Let there be no remaining doubt that Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 31, 2006 03:00 PM (8e/V4)
I appreciated your inane comment. It shows others here how unprincipled, intellectualyl weak and hateful the left is. No one of any political stripe can deny that this scumbag deserved to swing on the gallows pole--except of course for the left, which is busy doing so on this very thread you claim to have read.
Your comment, on the other hand, reminded me of why the Iraq war has been a success despite the ongoing war against the war by the left and its Establishment Media mouthpiece. A tyrant overthrown, open elections held, a Constitution drafted, an infrastructure built, per capita income up, oil production up, agriculture thriving, exports up, the economy up, the rial up, a free press and television stations, and beat of all--hundreds of thousands of dead terrorists. "Operation Iraqi Freedom" the generals called it. All you good, honorable, left-thinking patriots (snicker!) who whine about well earned epithets like "dune coons," "filthy subhuman arabs," "islamopithecines," and "koranimals... aren't you the same folks who worked so hard to deny sweet freedom and democracy to the Middle East three years ago? Democracy only for the select elite, is that it?
Us real Americans wanted Hussein deposed first, and a far less bellicose, representative government installed second. The old status quo of tolerating tyrants and leaving the Middle East to fester as a recruitment center and training ground for terrorists is over. Afghanistan was first, Iraq was second, and Iran and Syria will be next. Break out the hankies, sleazeball, more tyrants are going down.
Funny thing about the overwhelming majority of people in the world who envy President Bush's leadership... you are outrageously stupid. You spew Orwellian propaganda slogans about democracy while trying your utmost to deny the Iraqis a chance to enjoy it. You decry Hussein's death, while screeching for the death of Bush. You claim to be pacifists, while waging war against America. You cry for tolerance while showing none.
We decent people recognize that that people who claim Abu Ghraib and Club Gitmo are comparable to the Soviet Gulags are scumbags, regardless of which flag they refuse to salute.
Drive on back to the sewer you crawled out of, loser.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 03:03 PM (abVz3)
The Dhimmiecrats just took control of Congress by campaigning on a Vietnam redux campaign of capitulation and lies, so yeah, we're screwed.
Thanks a lot, asshole.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 03:05 PM (abVz3)
Do you not know the difference between a court trial and a lynching, or are you just an asshole?
No, you don't want big government to torture terrorists, you just want terrorists to walk free, America to be neutered, and tyrants to rule unmolested.
I bow before your superior morality and your enlightened government.
Only the scum of the Earth consistently criticize America while ignoring or excusing the world's real hellholes. This is a thread on the tyrant Saddam Hussein's well earned execution, and you've used it as a launching pad for your sophomoric anti-American diatribes. Of course, you fail to criticize the Eurotrash, Canadians and others who worked so hard to keep Hussein in power with the lucrative oil for palaces scam going. Punks like you are exactly why foreigners suck so hard. Save your sneering envy for the other losers. You have no moral capital. You're just another hypocritical hatemonger, projecting your own deficiencies onto your betters.
Saddam Hussein is dead, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it but whine. Blow me.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 03:24 PM (abVz3)
I think we all agree he needed to die, but give the Bush bullshit up. Remember your left wing counterparts voted for this war too.
Also incase you dont remember the MAJORITY of this country (USA) voted him back into office.
Posted by: Deez Nuts at December 31, 2006 04:10 PM (xAuqn)
God of the Universe sings
DING DONG THE BUTCHER’S DEAD…
if there is a BIG bad HELL
Saddam’s registered by now
.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe wept
when Saddam was killed
he wanted him pissed on
being dragged through Baghdad
.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! HA HA HA HA HA...
Posted by: USpace at December 31, 2006 04:14 PM (HMm2Y)
Spare us the Eurotrash line about alleged American barbarism. Your crime and punishment analogies are fatuous. We don't execute thieves and rapists, but we sure as hell execute murderers. So do the Iraqis. If you want to coddle genocidal monsters, Europe is the place to go, if you aren't there already. (I strongly suspect you are.) The rest of the world doesn't give a rat's ass what you pussies think. The vast majority of the world's population supports the death penalty. Last time I checked, the majority of Eurotrash do too, but those people have no say in their own governments. We aren't going to release terrorists and other murderers to commit more murders like the Eurotrash do. That would be truly barbaric, especially for the innocent murder victims. Justice is executing a murderer. If the Iraqis had wanted to hurt Hussein, they would've used his own torture methods against him and any family he has.
Saddam hurt those he thought of as enemies, and that's what the Iraqi courts did to him? What a juvenile distortion of reality. Saddam hurt anyone who could possibly threaten his power, and anyone who displeased him. There was no quid pro quo.
As you left-wing freaks love to claim, imprisoning someone is supposedly worse than granting them a quick death, so I fail to see the judicial savagery. Of course you imbeciles also claim that imprisonment is more humane than execution. You'll understand why normal people doubt your honesty.
"(Saddam) was a savage but judicial savagery doesn't redress that. I have to say, he died like a man. No pleading; and in the face of hatred, whilst shackled like an animal, he remained defiant, dignified and brave. I wonder if Bush or Blair would've met their end with such courage. For all of those calling for torture: you are no better than him."
Saddam died a broken man. What film did you watch? He was quaking, forlorn, and submissive. He was an animal, although I don't think the shackles were necessary. No longer the defiant, undignified blowhard of old, he died meek, broken and resigned. I actually felt a twang of pity for him, but that doesn't mean I would condone locking him up until someone decided to pardon him. He had to go, not that it was your decision to make.
We all know you hypocritical, passive-aggressive pacifists abhor the execution of genocidal monsters, but get sexually aroused over the thought of Bush and Blair being executed. What contemptible cockroaches you are. We'll never know how they would meet the left's hypothetical end, BECAUSE THEY AREN'T GENOCIDAL WAR CRIMINALS, NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU RETARDS CLAIM THEY ARE.
Vermin like you who would allow a terrorist plot to be carried out because you refused to torture a prisoner are just as bad as the terrorists.
I wish America did torture terrorists and traitors.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 04:37 PM (abVz3)
"It must be great being honestly more intelligent than a stupid camel jockey troll and not one of the stupidest people on the planet and neither a member of the America-last left, who are probably the second stupidist group of assholes on the planet."
Jawohl. It still doesn't suck. Being able to write proper sentences ain't bad either.
Hussein is still dead. Cry me a river, moonbat.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 04:42 PM (abVz3)
Eye for an Eye I hear you say.......
When will someone realise this gets people no where.
Posted by: M at December 31, 2006 04:50 PM (/H09f)
Saddam was not an innocent aid worker. There is no comparison between his filmed execution and terrorist snuff flicks, other than the visual similarity.
YOU are a vile and disgusting creature.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 04:52 PM (abVz3)
Sure he was a beast who deserved to die - but it is an inscrutable Chinese smile that is best justified this New Year of 2007.
Posted by: Melissa Back at December 31, 2006 05:00 PM (u0/hV)
Posted by: justicee at December 31, 2006 05:04 PM (Ej43g)
Posted by: justicee at December 31, 2006 05:17 PM (Ej43g)
Posted by: Jones at December 31, 2006 05:20 PM (jWnTu)
"So what made them shout 'Moqtada, Moqtada!?'"
They didn't shout the mook's name. Not that that has anything to do with the fact that Hussein was convicted for killing shites that weren't followers of mookie.
"These pictures gives me as much satisfaction as would the picture of Stalin executed by people shouting "Heil Hitler". You can also read post at Gates of Vienna to understand what is so disgusting about this video. Gates of Vienna is hardly a lefty blog."
Your reply is nonsensical. Besides, Hitler and Stalin were both left-wingers like you. You would never condone their execution under any circumstances. Your fellow travellers put them in power.
I don't care why somebody at "Gates of Vienna" thinks the video was disgusting. Whether it's disgusting or not is not for you or anyone else to decree.
"Yes, I did bother to read translations. Why do you swear all the time?"
I didn't ask if you read translations, I asked if you read Garduneh's comment. I'm not interested in any phony translations you read on moonbat sites. Why do you defend evil all the time?
"Great. So Bush _did not_ invite Al-Sadr to the White House, he only invited the leader of Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution and of Badr Brigade, and Al-Sadr has only six seats in the government and PM as his good friend, so the things are not really that bad after all."
Meaningless jibber jabber. Roosevelt regularly met with Stalin. Did that make him a Nazi like you retards love to describe Bush? Your BDS causes you to criticize Bush for talking to some scumbag, but excuse Clinton for promoting that terrorist piece of shit, Yasser Arafat. I have friends in the U.S. government. Does that make me a mass murdering dictater? You stupidly claimed Mookie was going to take Hussein's place and I called you on it.
"I don't post that many comments here. There's many reasons to praise America, but its politics in Iraq is not one of them. Al-Sadr didn't execute Saddam, his thugs did."
One comment by a scum-sucker like you is one too many. Yes, there are many reasons to praise America, but you've never done it once. All you do is smear America with every comment you make. You don't praise the overthrow of a tyrant and the creation of a representative government because all your talk about freedom and justice is nothing but verbal flatulence. The mook's thugs didn't execute Saddam, the family members of his victims did. You are a bald faced liar.
[Then why wasn't that reported? Why was only "Moqtada" reported?]
"An interesting question, given the fact that it _was_ reported."
I never asked that question, dipshit. I will ask this one though: Why was the burning shite story reported? The Qana incident? Al Reuters? Lyin' Joe Wilson? The fake-but-accurate memo, and thousands of other lies each day?
You're a buffoon.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 05:24 PM (abVz3)
its good hes dead,but nothing can change the fact that that
Bible toting imbecile Paul Bremer completely ruined the whole country with his actions,snuff said.
Posted by: tim at December 31, 2006 05:37 PM (AOvmM)
Posted by: Matt at December 31, 2006 05:44 PM (zvyun)
They did, but you probably live in the alternative dimension.
I didn't ask if you read translations, I asked if you read Garduneh's comment. I'm not interested in any phony translations you read on moonbat sites. Why do you defend evil all the time?
No I didn't read Garduneh's comment. "Phony translations", great. You insist on living in alternative reality.
Do you also consider Patterico, who thinks it was an excellent Sadr's PR stunt and Allahpundit, who calls it a hit-job some kinds of moonbats?
Your reply is nonsensical. Besides, Hitler and Stalin were both left-wingers like you.
Here you just crossed the line. Fuck you, insane moron, how dare you project your sick fantasies on me. Never in my life did I have any good feeling for the butcher that did all the things to my country (Stalin). Fuck you, may you burn in hell for your insolence.
Meaningless jibber jabber. Roosevelt regularly met with Stalin. Did that make him a Nazi like you retards love to describe Bush?
I don't believe FDR praised Stalin in the way Bush praised Al-Hakim or Iraqi Parliament speaker Mashhadani who thinks all the evil in the world comes from jooos.
I never described Bush as a Nazi. He's stupid, that's all. Not evil in any sense.
I never asked that question, dipshit.
That was an answer to other's question.
Why was the burning shite story reported? The Qana incident? Al Reuters? Lyin' Joe Wilson? The fake-but-accurate memo, and thousands of other lies each day?
What has this to do with Saddam's execution. Do you honestly believe that executioners shouting "Moqtada" was some sort of fabrication?
Posted by: Nikolay at December 31, 2006 05:49 PM (RfRKC)
Posted by: Greyrooster at December 31, 2006 06:40 PM (fVQPt)
Posted by: Greyrooster at December 31, 2006 06:44 PM (fVQPt)
Yep basically the same thing. To call it genocide is a complete joke. He did not systematically kill any race, only those who were intend on killing him.
You even see fit and healty people, all limbs intact who claim they were tortured by his regeime, seem he was not brutal enough in that respect then?
Maybe those who despise him should have a go at running Iraq, the current government doesn't seem to have much of a clue how to do it, at least not without torture and death squads.
At least in Saddams case his regeime brought relative peace to the country. They even had oil water and electricity you know!! (despite all the sanctions) now they have neither despite billions of dollars of aid.
Seems Saddam has had a lot of bad press!!
Posted by: bob mathews at December 31, 2006 06:47 PM (7Gya6)
You're amazingly uninformed. Free elections, a representative government, a Constitution, per capita income soaring, economy tripled, currency rates rising steadily, exports have begun for the first time since before hussein seized power, agriculture is flourishing, oil production is booming, infrastructure has been built from one that scarcely existed before, a free news media has arisen, hussein executed, etc., etc., etc.
Nuff said.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 06:58 PM (abVz3)
Like every advancement in Iraq: embraced by the left! (dripping with sarcasm.)
By the way, check a dictionary for the difference between sarcasm and smarm--because you obviously don't know it.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 07:02 PM (abVz3)
Justice if there ever was any.
There's no such thing as a "circle of violence." There is only personal responsibility. Not that a leftist retard would know anything about that. Hussein will not be gouging out anybody else's eyes. Does that make you sad? Methinks it does.
Allowing tyrants to murder indiscrimantely is wrong. When will moonbats learn that?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 07:09 PM (abVz3)
The U.S. did not force Saddam to go to war with Iran, sweetheart. Stalin and Mao were allies of convenience against the Axis powers. Do you have any complaints about that? Why do you care if vicious tyrants are used and tossed aside?
Admit it. You miss Saddam, because he used to thumb his nose at Amerikkka.
Maybe you can explain the nuclear centrifuges found buried in his top nuclear physicist's garden. The physicist led the Coalition right to them, and wrote a book on the subject entitled: "The Bomb In My Garden." Just one of those pesky doses of reality you moonbat assholes are allergic to. Not that bush overthrew hussein over WMD, or ever claimed to. The only simps to make that claim are the same lefties who once swore up and down that if America were to invade iraq, Hussein would unleash WMD on American troops and American cities.
Your racist comment about Chinese does little to justify the terrorist appeasing lowlifes coming into Congress. We'll see if they transform America into Utopia. Don't count on it, retard.
Things didn't work out the way you wanted them to, did they? Saddam is dead and the Iraqis are celebrating. It's none of you fucking business, so go cry on someone else's shoulder.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 07:22 PM (abVz3)
As the folks at Time said: "The death toll for U.S. soldiers in Iraq has reached 3,000, a number
that's both unbearable and, compared to previous military operations, a
pittance."
How true. But we all know you Leftards don't give a rat's @ss about our soldiers. You
cite their deaths only as political fodder. They know it, we know it,
and you know it. We all know it.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 31, 2006 07:26 PM (8e/V4)
"listen you bunch of perthetic racists who think that all muslims are wrong you are the ones who invented the word disgrace, what saddam did was rong ok but hanging him like that and laughing makes him and you equal cuz i know for a fact that you dolls would have shited straight away in front of him so carfull what you chat cuz some 1 mite not like it and get back to you personaly!!."
Islamopithecines aren't a race, you illiterate cretin. We invented the word "disgrace" for you koranimals, Saddam died like the weakling that he was, and the worst American who ever lived was more than his equal.
I'm in the Omaha NE phonebook, so feel free to get back to me personally anytime, pussywhip. Are you going to get back to me the same way your islamopithecine brothers get back to the Coalition? The Coalition is killing more than 100 cowards a day, even though they run every time an American comes within 5 miles. They're all in hell with that prophet pretender, child molester, sex offender Muhammad (piece of shit be upon him.)
See you soon coward.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 07:32 PM (abVz3)
3000 Americans didn't die to get Saddam, not that you care about the people who died.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died to ensure asshats like you have the right to shoot their traitorous mouths off. You weren't worth it, but they didn't do it for you. You're a piece of shit.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 07:37 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: Renaud at December 31, 2006 07:39 PM (IsCMY)
Posted by: Renaud at December 31, 2006 07:54 PM (IsCMY)
Posted by: Dave Clarke at December 31, 2006 08:28 PM (l5BmE)
Posted by: linda at December 31, 2006 08:51 PM (6w5xL)
(They didn't shout the mook's name. Not that that has anything to do with the fact that Hussein was convicted for killing shites that weren't followers of mookie.)
"They did, but you probably live in the alternative dimension."
As usual you pettifog rather than address the point. The Mook is not the new Emperor, so it doesn't matter if anyone shouted his name after a chorus of "Muhammad." I played the tape again and didn't hear it, but i couldn't care less if some dipshit said "Mookie!" Idiots like you screech names like "Kerry!" "Hilary!" and "Mommy!" all the time. Doesn't mean a thing. I do live in an alternate dimension to the one you live in. It's called reality. Enjoy FantasyLand and your political prognostications. I'm sure the Mook will be heading to the White house for a state dinner any day now.
"No I didn't read Garduneh's comment. "Phony translations", great. You insist on living in alternative reality.
Do you also consider Patterico, who thinks it was an excellent Sadr's PR stunt and Allahpundit, who calls it a hit-job some kinds of moonbats?"
Of course you didn't read garduneh's comment. Why would you read something by a real, live, former Middle Easterner, unless it's anti-American drivel? Yes, phony translations. I don't believe you read one at all. You just regurgitated what the Establishment Media reported. Where is your translation? Other than the translation from fact to fantasy by the EM.
I don't know how a PR stunt equates to a new mass murdering leader of Iraq in the real world (alternative reality indeed,) but assuming you're presenting Allahpundit's opinion honestly--a big assumption on my part--that doesn't change a thing. Not being a leftist, I don't march in lockstep with my moderate comrades. Allahpundit is certainly welcome to his own opinion, but I seldom agree with him, and a court ordered execution is not a "hit-job" unless the 9th circus court orders it.
"Here you just crossed the line. Fuck you, insane moron, how dare you project your sick fantasies on me. Never in my life did I have any good feeling for the butcher that did all the things to my country (Stalin). Fuck you, may you burn in hell for your insolence."
If you hate Stalin and want me to fuck you, why do you spout Soviet agitprop every time you leave a comment? You're one of those deeply ignorant unconscious marxists, aren't you? You're too stupid and ignorant to know that the multy-culty, politically correct, class warfare, social grievance, government as oppressor, socialistic, anti-American crap you spew constantly was all developed as subversive propaganda under Stalin, who you ironically hate. Way to honor the people he butchered. Who's the insane moron? I know where my ideas come from. Are you man enough to own up to where yours come from? I'm not crying over the death of a genocidal murderer, by the way. For someone who hates the memory of Uncle Joe, you sure are cavalier about saddam's crimes. Not sure I'll go to Hell for baiting you with insolent comments, but hey, you can dream. That's what you seem to do best. You can dream about me fucking you, too.
"I don't believe FDR praised Stalin in the way Bush praised Al-Hakim or Iraqi Parliament speaker Mashhadani who thinks all the evil in the world comes from jooos.
I never described Bush as a Nazi. He's stupid, that's all. Not evil in any sense."
You don't think Roosevelt heaped praise on Stalin because you're ignorant of history. Bush never commented on those mens' work on Iraq's government, not their personal character, and he did it for political reasons only, much like Rooseveelt did with Stalin. Al Hawkinah and Mashadorky haven't starved millions of Ukranians, as far as I know.
Did you go to Yale? What was your GPA? You cant even recognize the threat posed by islam, and you call the President stupid? Do you think you're smarter than he is?
"That was an answer to other's question."
If you want to ask another person a question, you need to address that person. Otherwise they cant answer you and there's no point in asking the question.
"What has this to do with Saddam's execution. Do you honestly believe that executioners shouting "Moqtada" was some sort of fabrication?"
Because the Establishment Media reported that the crowd chanted "Mookie," rather than "Muhammad." This is an outright lie, and a disingenuous attempt to get gullible people to believe what you do, and downplay the progress Saddam's execution represents.
Saddam is still dead, the mook is still a dead man walking, and you're still full of shit.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 08:59 PM (abVz3)
Anyway, I hope God has forgiven Hussein for his crimes and sins and also forgives all of you because you dont know what you are doing.
One day God's judgement will be on us all, I want to see you guys there.
El MONJE.
Posted by: EL_MONJE at December 31, 2006 09:00 PM (M/58E)
Posted by: civilbehavior at December 31, 2006 09:02 PM (SGHzB)
Posted by: Mr.Me at December 31, 2006 09:25 PM (DlFKr)
Your screed is so full of inaccuracies and lies it isn't even worth refuting, but what the hell. I enjoy swatiing moonbats.
Americans are not murdering the children and other family members of those who tried to overthrow a tyrant. The terrorist scum they are killing are murdering women, children and other innocents. The terrorists are not trying to overthrow a tyrant. They are not even insurgents. They have no desire to rule Iraq, and there is no organized rebel group. You are an idiot.
Apparently all the film of Saddam torturing people is fake, and people cut their own limbs and genitals off, gouged out their eyes, and ripped out their tongues just to fool you. I think you have real victims confused with Psuedostinian and Hizb' allah actors.
Genocide is not confined to race.
The current government is doing a far better job than the butcher of Baghdad ever did, although you obviously would prefer to see the terrorists presiding over chaos.
Ah yes. No moonbat description of Iraq would be complete without the stories about peaceful rape rooms, torture chambers and mass graves. You forgot the happy children flying kites.
If you bothered to read anything besides three year old left-wing propaganda, you'd know that Iraq never had decent water or electrical service, and the oil fields were falling apart. Now they have better utilities than ever, and they're pumping more oil than they did under Saddam. Not even the New York Times is peddling the canard of a broken infrastructure anymore, and the Times writers lie every chance they get.
Seems like someone is willing to believe the bad press about Iraq--bad press that's three years out of date. You might want to check the dates on the Kos pieces your reading.
Fucking retard.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 09:33 PM (abVz3)
I PRAY FOR HIS SOUL.
Posted by: ANNA at December 31, 2006 09:41 PM (Ok807)
"Omaha must be a pretty scary place."
Only if you think people who love their country are scary. There are moonbats here too, but Omaha doesn't get the transplants that other big cities do. Moonbat retards like you flock to big coastal cities, virtually all of which used to be conservative and patriotic, but are now majority blue.
You won't see any candlelight vigils for the Butcher of Baghdad here, although the university of Omaha NE is infested with left-wing cockroaches, of course.
Not having to deal with throngs of assholes like you is the only thing that makes living here bearable. I'll miss the sane people here when I move back to the Pacific coast.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 09:43 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: sara at December 31, 2006 09:59 PM (CWHDo)
Posted by: sara at December 31, 2006 09:59 PM (CWHDo)
Posted by: Vicki at December 31, 2006 10:15 PM (d52NK)
Posted by: David USA at December 31, 2006 11:34 PM (S19x6)
You really should have read my post before commenting on it. Had you done so you might even have achieved a correct spelling of my name. To alleviate your apparent difficulties I will enumerate:
1. I am happy to see Saddam executed
2. I am unhappy at the way the strength of Iran has been enhanced by what we have done in Iraq
3. My comment about the Chinese was not racist - it was directed to the fact that they will in the 21st Century be the major competitor of USA in the purchase of Arab oil. Once the undemocratic puppet regimes in Saudi Arabi and Kuwait have collapsed (as inevitably they must) we shall suffer a dreadful economic backlash. I doubt you have any inkling of the intensity of the hatred felt by the average street Arab for USA and UK these days.
Posted by: Melissa Back at December 31, 2006 11:42 PM (u0/hV)
You don't even have the courage to write the President's name... Sara, by the way, are you French or European as to have so much hatred against the President of the United States of America? Oh yes I forgot, you could also be a muslim... or simply another liberal who doesn't appreciate the best country under God's green earth.
Posted by: David USA at December 31, 2006 11:42 PM (S19x6)
NAME ONE!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1136582/posts
Yea - I know plenty of people who are mass murderers you stupid Cunt!
Posted by: Max Power at December 31, 2006 11:44 PM (PM8kH)
Posted by: RW&B at December 31, 2006 11:47 PM (W9sGA)
I never said that his punishment doesnt fit his crime. I never said that he should not have been found guilty. And i repeat, you may know a child molester or a murder and not realize it. I never said that you knew someone who had kill as many people as Saddam had, but that you may know someone just as appalling.
Posted by: Vicki at January 01, 2007 12:17 AM (d52NK)
Stop eating the worms out of the peyote buttons, Don juan. you're about one magic serpent away from the nut-house.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 01, 2007 12:31 AM (abVz3)
You all are still missing everything I am saying. It is sad you are only seeing only what you wish to see. I will repeat again, I do not disagree with the verdict nor do i disagree with the decision the court handed down of execution. If you think I am so blind and "smug" to think other wise, then I feel sorry for you and others like you that do not read entirely what is written. And if you do not think that a child molester is not as bad, then you need to think again. The molested child has to live with that nightmare every day for the rest of his life. I know. If you think that a child molester is hypothetical, or that all of them are locked up behind bars then you are living a fantacy life. Just ask a child who this has happened to and they will tell you what a nightmare it is.
Posted by: Vicki at January 01, 2007 12:41 AM (d52NK)
You all are still missing everything I am saying. It is sad you are only seeing only what you wish to see. I will repeat again, I do not disagree with the verdict nor do i disagree with the decision the court handed down of execution. If you think I am so blind and "smug" to think other wise, then I feel sorry for you and others like you that do not read entirely what is written. And if you do not think that a child molester is not as bad, then you need to think again. The molested child has to live with that nightmare every day for the rest of his life. I know. If you think that a child molester is hypothetical, or that all of them are locked up behind bars then you are living a fantacy life. Just ask a child who this has happened to and they will tell you what a nightmare it is.
Posted by: Vicki at January 01, 2007 12:41 AM (d52NK)
Iraq is way worse for whom? The rapists, mass muderers and kleptocrats? Word has it GWB is already hung.
Quite frankly, anyone anything that thinks President Bush should be swinging instead of the butcher isn't quite human. It makes my skin crawl reading comments like yours. You don't deserve to live in this country. Hell, a sick twat like you doesn't deserve to live at all.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 01, 2007 12:42 AM (abVz3)
Posted by: White at January 01, 2007 12:44 AM (AA/Rk)
Jeff, since you're so patriotic, when are you finishing your fourth tour of Iraq?
Posted by: Are All Right Wingers Mental Incompetents? at January 01, 2007 12:47 AM (Hrq9k)
Comparing real crimes to hypothetical crimes is idiotic. There is no moral equivalency between a genocidal monster who had entire families tortured to death on a regular basis, and some deviant who enjoys slasher flicks.
Most of the child molesters and murderers in my country are behind bars. If you're a Eurabian, then I'm thinking of the murderers and child molesters in your Union, because most of them are walking free and claiming more victims--thanks to your "enlightened" justice systems. Of course, child molesting is legal in most EU countries. BRRRR!
So much for your smug superiority.
Saddam is dead and quite powerless. If we should forget him, should we forget Hitler and the Holocaust too? How about the 300 million murdered by Marxism? The 911 victims? Should we forget all this and risk it happening again?
Society is never going to figure things out. There are no perfect people and there will never be a perfect society.
Saddam got what he deserved.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 01, 2007 12:55 AM (abVz3)
Posted by: White at January 01, 2007 01:11 AM (AA/Rk)
I read your little anti-American hate screed, and I do believe I spelled your name the way I meant to. It sounds like you didn't read mine, because you didn't back up your statement about the U.S. being in bed with Saddam.
America exploited one bloody Middle Eastern tyrant against another bloody Middle Eastern tyrant in the Iran/Iraq War. Plenty of jihadis and thugs were killed.
The UN and the Eurotrash Union made money off the suffering of innocent Iraqis to the tune of billions of U.S. dollars with the oil for rape rooms scandal.
I think I can guess which occurrence you think was a crime. Can you guess which one I consider a crime?
Iran is weaker than ever. Amadjihad's political candidates just got their asses kicked in the last election, despite the fact that the elections were dirty. Dissidents openly call for regime change, and the police and military refuse the orders of the ayatollah to crack down on them. The country is surrounded on all sides by American combat veterans ready to take out the trash. Bush has two more years in office, and he's announced plans to increase troop strength in Iraq--which is on Iran's border, dontcha know.
Sorry to shake you out of your wet dream, but things aren't looking too good for your mullahs right now.
Your cryptic comment about China seemed to be a reference to the Dhimmies taking office tomorrow, but it doesn't matter. China is a joke. 90% of the population cant afford to buy shoes, and they're going to consume the world's oil? Dream on. China would collapse into regional warlordism if America stopped importing its worthless junk--which is bound to happen sooner or later. Those incompetent creeps cant even purify their drinking water, or supply utilities to their capitol city. Cockroaches have a better chance of challenging American supremacy.
Not only that, but America has the infrastructure in place necessary to consume domestic oil and switch to ethanol fuel in a crunch. China doesn't. It'll be back to rickshaws for the crouching tiger, hidden human rights.
I lived in the so called muslim world for years, and I have friends who live there still. I know how those weaklings feel. I don't think you have the slightest inkling how much the average American hates the islamopithecines--and we have the power to wipe them out. I know the average wog doesn't know how close his clan is to extinction.
Another big terrorist attack on American soil will send us after them--right over the bodies of any leftists who are stupid enough to get in the way.
This is a bad time to be a koranimal or a leftist. You people never learn, and it makes you overconfidant. Weakness and overconfidence is a bad combination.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 01, 2007 01:25 AM (abVz3)
Posted by: cindy at January 01, 2007 01:31 AM (AA/Rk)
I have carefully re-read all of your contributions to date and have revised my view.
You are not a bigot of below-average comprehension after all. You are in fact a troll of some accomplishment. But I don't waste time playing with trolls, so here I'll just cease responding to you!
Posted by: Melissa Back at January 01, 2007 01:33 AM (u0/hV)
Many of you seem to have a deep seated contempt for the USA. You seem to believe that extremist muslims can somehow be appeased, and take a "bury your head in the sand" attitude toward their hateful rhetoric and actions. You somehow fail to realize that if the USA should fall or fail to take the lead in combating this scourge on civilization, that you would be next in their sights for conversion. Just as you would all be under Nazi or communist rule right now if the USA hadn't come forward and sacraficed our brave young men and women in times past for freedom and democracy.
All I ask is that you put your ill found contempt aside for a moment and think about it.
PS
I would like to thank the many British people who have shown courage and forsight and have been doing their part to keep the free world free.
Posted by: Scott at January 01, 2007 01:33 AM (aX4Ik)
Posted by: Brock at January 01, 2007 01:36 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Pink Flower at January 01, 2007 01:49 AM (AA/Rk)
Accepted assistance from New World Order Folks.
Murdered own citizens for benefit of his own perpetuation of power.
Taught children citizens bigotry.
So, it may have been too soon - that we might never know whole story and details/ objectivity withheld/filtered by world media.
Regardless, scum culled from human race is ultimately - JUSTICE?
WHEW.
Posted by: Dave at January 01, 2007 01:59 AM (tVnP0)
Posted by: Maurice Knight at January 01, 2007 02:33 AM (me8OE)
Posted by: usmcshooter at January 01, 2007 04:43 AM (fqLSZ)
Posted by: usmcshooter at January 01, 2007 05:04 AM (fqLSZ)
Posted by: Thunderfoot at January 01, 2007 05:17 AM (2HUrk)
Posted by: White at January 01, 2007 05:38 AM (AA/Rk)
black r burned
white r raw
brown r cooked and gold colo
Posted by: timmy at January 01, 2007 05:41 AM (TIgYv)
Posted by: mercyforlifetime at January 01, 2007 06:03 AM (0C/22)
You are correct, I am not from the US of A.
I was born and raised in Ireland so was therefore brought up with sectarian violence and murder on my doorstep.
I feel pretty confident that I know much more on the subject than you do.
I was also brought up listening to the poison rhetoric spouted forth by BOTH sides against the other.
You talk about hate filled Muslims infecting the world etc but seem to fail to realise that you are putting here in print the same sort of hate filled propoganda that they are putting forth about the west.
The experience in my own country has shown that it is only when this stops that any sort of real progress be made.
Until it does people in all areas of the conflict will continue to be murdered.
I am not, for the record, any sort of limp wristed liberal. I just think that views such as yours make no contribution to ending the cycle of violence, they just perpetuate it.
Posted by: Andrew at January 01, 2007 06:54 AM (YDcMR)
Scott
Posted by: Scott at January 01, 2007 07:18 AM (aX4Ik)
Scott
Posted by: Scott at January 01, 2007 07:18 AM (aX4Ik)
Posted by: Big Al at January 01, 2007 07:51 AM (FLz26)
Nevertheless Andrew, you point is well taken and appreciated.
Posted by: White at January 01, 2007 08:04 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Pink Flower at January 01, 2007 08:20 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Vicki at January 01, 2007 08:28 AM (d52NK)
Posted by: Vicki at January 01, 2007 08:44 AM (d52NK)
Posted by: nazirah at January 01, 2007 08:46 AM (hTCwC)
Posted by: nazirah at January 01, 2007 08:47 AM (hTCwC)
Posted by: nazirah at January 01, 2007 08:48 AM (hTCwC)
migrated to the US, whose brain and soul has been sold and has lost his
identity.
LOL. What "identity" is that. I quote JFK, and I demand the MSM report honestly. I guess you can just call me "vendido" because my identity is based on ideas and values, not tribe and ethnicity, you primitive moron. Go back the jungles of chiapas from whence you came.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 01, 2007 08:51 AM (8e/V4)
Thanks for your comments.
I do not make the mistake of thinking that some of the extreme views posted on this site represent in any way the overall view of all americans.
I equally dont make the mistake of thinking that the extreme views of muslim fundamentallists represent the overall view of all muslims.
Posted by: Andrew at January 01, 2007 08:56 AM (YDcMR)
people writing these comments that make them worse than Saddam himself.
So people writing comments on a blog are worse than Saddam. ROFLMAO! Behold this shining example of Leftwing idiocy and moral confusion! Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 01, 2007 09:02 AM (8e/V4)
I'm not sure we meant for you lot to breed when we let you leave us in
1776.
I don't believe you "let" us leave in 1776. If memory serves me right, you SURRENDERED in 1891 at Saratoga and hightailed it back to Europe with tails planted firmly between legs.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 01, 2007 09:09 AM (8e/V4)
brave in words not in real life.Bunch of stupid brainless human just a
look like!
I get it. Liberals think it's wrong to hate mass murdering thugs like Saddam, but it's just fine for the same Liberals to hate conservatives, Republicans, Bush, christians, Americans, etc. I guess that makes perfect sense in the mentally disordered mind of your average Liberal!
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 01, 2007 09:26 AM (8e/V4)
Andrew
I pretty much agree with you on one level. But on another level, I don't know. For example, the Americans on this board are in fact representing American sentiment accurately, I think. We are pretty darn divided, that's for sure. Maybe it's changing as Bush tanks more and more.Were a bit black and white at times.
And your other point: That Muslim fundamentalists do not represent the majority view. In an era of mass media, unfortunately they do. That's why it's so important for them to get another beautiful character like Rumi (Sufi) - Fast!
And that argument is similar to the one that went like this: Stalinism is not really communism. Or, most communists were good people (true), but it created a few problems, to put it mildly.
Posted by: White at January 01, 2007 09:45 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: nazirah at January 01, 2007 09:46 AM (hTCwC)
cum bite me....u sad ass looser byeee...
Posted by: nazirah at January 01, 2007 09:55 AM (hTCwC)
No Davec, caring about criminals more than victims is not progressive. And we do put too much emphasis on jails. I mean, it's crazy. And the death penalty is insane (at least most of Europe has abolished that). But outside the West, it's way worse. I've seen it. The problem is this: PC Liberals won't admit that because they are too fucking guilty to even look at themselves in the mirror, and Republicans don't see it because they don't know what a fucking mirror is, and they don't much care anyway because they want to bring us more in line with most of the world: Conservative, male-dominated, religious, biblical jail terms, obedient citizens, no social services, no public services, tooth fairy creators of giant objects, whatsoever..
I didn't see that until I traveled outside the West. I sort of bought the PC liberal view. And then I traveled for a long time and thought, holy shit, this world is more fucked up than I thought! There are too many examples to list. Here's one among a million: If you are a female, like me, try walking down the street of any Muslim country by yourself. You'll get fucking groped. And then you go back to America and tell someone, they'll make excuses for those fucking pigs. And if you push the point, they'll call you a god damn racist to halt the conversation. Some spineless wanker will say, "Well, I know someone once who wasn't groped in Cairo, she walked for 3.2 minutes down the street one time, and I know someone who got groped in Italy, America, and blah blah blah" Fine. I am talking about tendancies, and I have seen it and, unfortunately, felt it. And examples go on...
Posted by: Pink Flower at January 01, 2007 10:13 AM (AA/Rk)
Nobody weeps over Saddam, except his relatives a few Sunnis. But many people, like me, think the death penalty is fucking crazy. And even you like the death penalty, the way that was handled was aweful. And I don't want to hear about the bible, because I am fully aware that it says kill fags and kill fucking anything really. Check out Leviticus 20. Holy crap. But rule of secular law should be the higher order.
Posted by: White at January 01, 2007 10:18 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: davec at January 01, 2007 10:20 AM (yaQM4)
Posted by: USA SUCKS!! at January 01, 2007 10:20 AM (hRELA)
kalimah thoybah la illaha ilalal lahu muhammadur rasululah...
if youve read dis....you have officially become a muslim...pat urself on the back lol =P
Posted by: nazirah at January 01, 2007 10:21 AM (hTCwC)
Posted by: White at January 01, 2007 10:27 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Mohammed at January 01, 2007 10:29 AM (AA/Rk)
Good points well made.
The point I was trying to get across is that you cannot hate an entire race or religion because of the extremists within those groups.
Take the communist example you mentioned.
There are now a very large number of immigrant people living in Ireland that originated
in former eastern bloc countries.
They have so far shown themseleves to be a very warm and exceptionally hard working people and are making a significant contribution to the economy of the country.
Just a few years ago we would have been condemning them all as a threat to world peace.
The same thing is happening here, people of the muslim religion just happen to be percieved as the next great threat for the world to deal with.
But the point is that it is only a small minority of those people that are the threat.
The same points could be made from the other side of the fence.
Muslim fundamentalists are as you say using various forms of media to spread their beliefs around the world. They are using the same methods (just a more modern version) used by Hitler or Stalin to influence their people.
Terrorists use the same methods to recruit gullible people to their cause as for example white power groups (in any country) use to recruit impressionable people to their cause.
On the point of use of the media, it has always astonished me how gleefully american press conferences during the war (both of them)showed video taken from warplanes, copters etc of Iraqi soliders being killed in air strikes.
Yes they were the enemy but how is that different to the spectacle that we all logged on here to watch?
The real difficulties people around the world have with american foreign policy only began with the election of George W Bush. He has done as much damage to the worlds perception of your country as the fundamentalists are doing to the perception of the muslim religion.
Posted by: Andrew at January 01, 2007 10:31 AM (YDcMR)
posted on this site represent in any way the overall view of all
americans.
Andrew,
I agree with 100% if by "extreme" you mean the Leftards on this thread weeping over Saddam's corpse as if it were the body of Mother Teresa herself. I can assure you they do not represent mainstream American thought-- thank God.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 01, 2007 11:11 AM (8e/V4)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 01, 2007 11:12 AM (8e/V4)
Only the white skinned English speaking leaders of the so called "civilised nations" get away with their share of crimes against Iraqi people.
Posted by: Lord Lagaan at January 01, 2007 11:18 AM (DQ+Bw)
Smacks of double standards and hypocrisy. The dictator becomes the president when he's our buddy but the moment he crosses our path, then we lable him the evil dictator.
Bring that idiot monkey boy president to an Iraqi court and let's see how the Iraqis judge him !!!! Come Bush monkey, be brave after all you "liberated" the nation.
Posted by: Laura's Bush at January 01, 2007 11:27 AM (DQ+Bw)
Posted by: Saddammed at January 01, 2007 11:52 AM (DQ+Bw)
Posted by: Kamran at January 01, 2007 12:40 PM (+zQga)
numbnuts,
every country on the planet has killed more than AQ. Your point being?
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 01, 2007 01:17 PM (8e/V4)
Smacks of double standards and hypocrisy.
Yes, it was a double standard, and regretable. A real stain on our name. Unfortunately realpolitik usually carries the day when it comes to geopolitics, and Iraq was seen as a bulwark against the greater threat Iran. Does that take away from my satisfaction that the butcher of Baghdad who massacred hundreds of thousands of innocent people got what he deserved? Hell no. I don't forsake the good in favor of unnatainable perfection.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 01, 2007 01:33 PM (8e/V4)
the allied forces cannot control Iraq yet Saddam managed it
Yes, let us reflect on how Saddam controlled Iraq -- the very same methods landed him in the gallows.
Posted by: davec at January 01, 2007 01:57 PM (yaQM4)
good, point, and let us not forget how many people the US has killed in the last couple of years.
Last count (several months ago) was 655,000.
the phrase...
"Killing terrorists in Iraq"
doesnt make sense anymore.
our soldiers are in the middle of sectarian violence. They dont know who they are killing.
the rich people in Iraq are leaving by the droves, the poor, dont have the means too, and dont have jobs, so they get caught up in the Shia - Sunnahviolence.
This problem cant be handled by sending in MORE troops.
sendin in troops, created a preoblem, SOO>...
sending in MORE troops creates.
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— George W. Bush, interview with CBS News’ Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006
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Posted by: brad at January 01, 2007 03:51 PM (/dST9)
Posted by: Max Power at January 01, 2007 03:52 PM (PM8kH)
Posted by: White at January 01, 2007 04:54 PM (AA/Rk)
Mate I feel sorry for you if that's all your response could be "Goat Humper"? I am in an Oxford Graduate and have lived all my life in the UK bar the 2 years I spent in Dubai and an Investment Banker by profession so I think your gimpish Goat Humper comment doesn't stand much ground. The only thing that I can gather from you immature and useless comments is that you are in fact brain dead and that you simply cannot engage in a intellectual debate (woops..do you even know what that word means?) to me you sound like the Goat Humper and by the sounds of it you may be the next trailer trash the ends getting killed in Iraq...it's people like you why the world is in its confused state that it is...thick people..any how Imo sure you will respond with yet more pathetic degrading comments so pls do so but I will make sure that I will ignore the next one as you obviously are too stupid to post anything with any true meaning...you cant test me boy so dont bother...and pity yourself that you more than likely dont have a decent education!
Posted by: Kamran at January 01, 2007 05:09 PM (+zQga)
It hard to admit this, but truth be told: Iraq was better off under Saddam. We've killed more people in Bush's "war of WMD" than Saddam killed during his entire dictatorship. As an American, it's darn hard to come to terms with that. Sure, the religious cock-suckers like Sadr are happy now, but what the fuck? I meam Max Power must have used max power to shove his fucking fist up his huge asshole. Iraq is a fucking blood circus full of freaks. And because of Bush, we are part of it. And not even the greatest minds of our day have any fucking clue as to how to repair that. The reason? Look at history. The Sunni and Shia have been at odd for over a thousand years. Somebody should have told that to fucking retard Bush. Unpatriotic ass-pounders like Max are just like those those wankers who kept us in Vietnam. And it's no surprise that a bunch of unpatriotic chicken-hawk draft dodging boy-fuckers got us into this.
Posted by: White at January 01, 2007 05:13 PM (AA/Rk)
luv u loads
antony
R.I.P SADDAM
Posted by: antony at January 01, 2007 05:35 PM (PG6OV)
Right on ...shows that you are at least in the know about the wider issues...you are spot on about the history comment...it is history that teaches us the root of problems we have today and it is history that can show us the way forward as most of the reasons people are even fighting today eg many people engaed in the muslim sectarian violence dont even know why the are fighting each other....and I can vouch for that as I have come across such people throughout the world...but Im afarid I will not go into that right now as thats another debate altogether and goes off the subject at hand here...But I respct your comments...it shows again that stereotyping has no place in the world today... an American who is a rightful patriot but knows right from wrong...Thank you for your comments!
Posted by: kamran at January 01, 2007 05:39 PM (+zQga)
Right on ...shows that you are at least in the know about the wider issues...you are spot on about the history comment...it is history that teaches us the root of problems we have today and it is history that can show us the way forward as most of the reasons people are even fighting today eg many people engaed in the muslim sectarian violence dont even know why the are fighting each other....and I can vouch for that as I have come across such people throughout the world...but Im afarid I will not go into that right now as thats another debate altogether and goes off the subject at hand here...But I respct your comments...it shows again that stereotyping has no place in the world today... an American who is a rightful patriot but knows right from wrong...Thank you for your comments!
Posted by: kamran at January 01, 2007 05:39 PM (+zQga)
Posted by: PoodleBlair at January 01, 2007 05:52 PM (JMr9w)
If that Lancet number of 655,000 is anything like the margin of error they gave themselves for the 100,000 figure (95% confidence between 8,000 and 94,000) which left them with a small margin of error of 86,000 deaths, then I think that speaks to the credibility of the report as a whole.
Posted by: davec at January 01, 2007 05:57 PM (yaQM4)
They are taking a stand against what they see as the senseless slaughter of civilians.
This group of people are reffered to by two names ......Extremeist Muslims and Ultra right wing Americans.
There is another group of people that wish to impose their will and their ideas of what is right or wrong on the rest of the world.
This group is also reffered to by two names .... Extremeist Muslims and Ultra right wing Americans.
Posted by: Andrew at January 01, 2007 06:06 PM (YDcMR)
Both Blair & Bush should be tried by an Iraqi court, and if found guilty, hang them both on Christmas day !!!!
Posted by: Bushbasher at January 01, 2007 06:07 PM (JMr9w)
Posted by: buckfush at January 01, 2007 06:20 PM (AeA5R)
Leeroybubba of KY;USA
Posted by: Do at January 01, 2007 06:30 PM (eUchW)
Leeroybubba of KY;USA
Posted by: Do at January 01, 2007 06:30 PM (eUchW)
Posted by: White at January 01, 2007 06:36 PM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: G. W. Bush et al at January 01, 2007 06:45 PM (jgwhW)
Posted by: GW Bush the coward at January 01, 2007 06:52 PM (JMr9w)
The footage was actually "filtered out" by the Iraqi government. They themseleves released the footage to the world without sound (if indeed that is what you were referring to?).
Why is it do you think that they did that?
Posted by: Andrew at January 01, 2007 06:52 PM (YDcMR)
Posted by: kamran at January 01, 2007 06:56 PM (+zQga)
Posted by: Andrew at January 01, 2007 06:56 PM (YDcMR)
Posted by: White at January 01, 2007 07:06 PM (AA/Rk)
For those of you who have served or are serving in the armed forces you all know what it is all about! Orders are given, orders are followed. Sometimes disagreed on but still executed. Vietnam vets, veterans of the Korean war and Desert Storm all know what the end result was.
What would have happened if Saddam had been "taken" out during Desert Storm? Would the situation in Iraq have been any different?
As a former member of an elite unit I have traveled to more than 50 countries around the world, following orders without question. I believe the "unknown" elite units of western countries could have alleviated a lot of the problems now experienced in Iraq but that is besides the point.
Remember what happened in Vietnam. The war was dragged out for years an lots of young american lives were lost. Who benefited from the war? Big industry!!!
Now the Chinese is fast becoming a nation to reckon with. One of the fastest growing economies in the world and it's not the fault of the U.S., as someone here alluded to. Investments are coming from all over the world and the chinese are benefiting greatly.
And what is the U.S. doing about the atrocities that occur in other countries right now? I just wonder?
Anyway, a lot of the comments here are right to the point but as someone said, several of the posters need to learn more about world history and about religion!!!
Thanks to tou who have a clear mind and a knowledge of the aforementioned.
Posted by: kat at January 01, 2007 07:08 PM (ULs/2)
It is indeed refreshing to hear a balanced point of view from someone who has actually "been there"
Growing up in Ireland & during a period living in the UK I met a a number of ex UK armed forces members and only one had a balanced view of the people and situation in Northern Ireland. The rest had the same sort of bigoted view that we have seen displayed here against anyone that is not American.
Thank you for your comments
Posted by: Andrew at January 01, 2007 07:16 PM (YDcMR)
Posted by: Shelia Mansfield at January 01, 2007 07:24 PM (BVqj6)
Watch the Saddam video. See our invasion of Afghanistan. It already did come around.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 01, 2007 07:46 PM (8e/V4)
ones who deserved to be hanged.
A leftist shows once again his uncanny ability to hold two mutually exclusive ideas at once. It's a mental disorder.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 01, 2007 07:50 PM (8e/V4)
...ok, I am back. Believe me, I tried hard to see the humanity in the firing squad, and I couldn't get there. It's not just because I am completely against the death penalty; it's in part because I don't see your point. If you have the death penalty, then the process doesn't really make much difference. The outcome is, after all, suprisingly similar. So, how about this, if sociopaths like you want the death penalty - and apparently you do and there isn't fucking much I can do about it - then I demand that it be done right:
Nail the guilty one upon a Cross. Then, from 50 yards away, catapult a 10 ft. stainless-steel didlo at the fucker. Do that 10 times. Then, if he ain't dead yet, launch 10,000 pounds of human shit at the dude. And then go to McDonalds and have a big mac.
Posted by: white at January 01, 2007 08:04 PM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: white at January 01, 2007 08:20 PM (AA/Rk)
joe ege----- you are the kind of person whom creates war
some of u people are sick, really sick. whoever disrespects islam will burn in hell. There is a bastard here disrespecting Mohammad peace be upon him. It is people like that who create anger,
People who are educated know that the Americans were behind alot of what Sadaam did. He was no worse than what Bush is.
You people who comment of him saying Mohammad, you dont have a soul, you wish you could be half the man sadaam was. Tell me would your father be able to be as much of a man as he was. NO!
What ever he had done, his country was more at peace then it is now.
God knows what will happen in the next year in Iraq.
I did not like Sadaam, but now I hate America more than I have ever hated Sadam.
One other thing you racist uneducated people, what you will learn is that according to Muslims, Sadam died on the best day, a day that muslims would like to chose to die on.
Joe ege--------- your evil, you have no soul, not heart and no religion. You must have been bought up with no mother or father.
Posted by: salma at January 01, 2007 08:27 PM (D+1BD)
Salma, watch the god damn news and tell me that Saddam died on the best day. Go to NY times web page. The Sunnis are pissed because it was the first of one of their religious celebrations.
Another thing, your burn in hell comment is not going to win any minds, that's for sure. Try another tactic. Better yet, another strategy: stop believing in the tooth fairy and try to get some Christian meth junkies to stop too. Your go to hell shit is about as frightening as a low budget horror film.
Posted by: white at January 01, 2007 08:44 PM (AA/Rk)
*DING* *DING* We have a winner! A Muslim that doesn't threaten violence, but uses religious philosophy as a warning. *DING* DING*
Wear your "moderate" badge with pride!
Posted by: davec at January 01, 2007 09:39 PM (yaQM4)
ESPN's Coverage of Saddam's Hanging
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMjEUwd2bRU
or
http://www.myheavy.com/video.php?video_id=3857&type=user
Posted by: DingDing at January 01, 2007 10:03 PM (Ywigw)
Hello GAYrooster. I like messing with Muslims, too. Just read some of my posts and you'll see (I just reread a few, and boy oh boy I'm a dick). But Kamran? Why mess with him? He's presenting a decent view that we should welcome. He's adding interesting ideas and taking time to put together arguments. So my advices is this: Show some discernment in your critical activity. The only information you gave us is that you are a homosexual republican who's pissed because if you come out of the closet your meth buddies will beat the shit out of you. With that said, "bring it on."
Posted by: white at January 01, 2007 10:16 PM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: lily at January 01, 2007 10:36 PM (Io0mA)
Posted by: mizzfiqa at January 01, 2007 10:37 PM (ecJx0)
Posted by: Greyrooster at January 01, 2007 10:38 PM (Po6mQ)
Posted by: mizzfiqa at January 01, 2007 10:43 PM (ecJx0)
Posted by: Greyrooster at January 01, 2007 10:44 PM (Po6mQ)
Gayrooster, it's ok to have different views. But the problem is, nobody really knows what your views are - and maybe you don't know either. With the lexical talent of an abused retard, one can never quite understand why certain things are as they are, why certain things are not ok - like, for example, why it's not ok to go pee pee in your panties while watching Fox news. I know it's not nice to make fun of retards, and that you were probably made fun of in school for being one - which is why you now fuck donkeys (and lick the assholes of chickens and roosters) - so I am sorry that I did not comport myself as a gentleman of culture (I bet you don't even have a dictionary to look up the word "comport"). Go get 'em, retard!
Posted by: white at January 01, 2007 10:55 PM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: white at January 01, 2007 11:06 PM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Greyrooster at January 01, 2007 11:07 PM (Po6mQ)
salma,
take off the burka and get some sun, your brain is suffering a vitamin A deficiency. Saddam wasn't worth half of my left testicle, and if there's any justice in this universe your buddy Saddam is in hell standing upside down in a vat of boiling shit for all eternity, you POS apologist for evil. He was a mass murderer second only to Hitler and Stalin. If you are what passes for a moderate muslim in this world, then I fear it won't end well for islam. I pray I'm wrong, and you aren't.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 01, 2007 11:16 PM (8e/V4)
Posted by: emt at January 01, 2007 11:24 PM (d0oK6)
Black: You're not fooling anyone by calling yourself white. You lefturds always come with the gay shit sooner or later. That's what you're really up to. Isn't it. Looking for your own kind? Fucking faggot. Go back to defending your buggering muslim lover.
Posted by: Greyrooster at January 01, 2007 11:29 PM (Po6mQ)
First of all, everyone needs to take a look at themselves in the mirror and realize how good or bad you really are off. You eat well, got a warm place to sleep, come and go as you please. Chances are you are a lot better off than the average iraqy. So to sit on your computer in your warm house,on your fat ass bitching one way or the other is rather irrelavent.
That is about all I have to say but like the one comment I read said, karma's a bitch even in the world of islam.
Posted by: Bob Johnson at January 01, 2007 11:34 PM (sfzWF)
Posted by: white at January 01, 2007 11:43 PM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: lily at January 02, 2007 12:32 AM (Io0mA)
Posted by: white at January 02, 2007 12:48 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Big Al at January 01, 2007 07:51 AM "
Gee! Thanks Big Al! I mean for when you 'let' us leave in 1776. I like how Cornwallis was "Oh! I'm sick! I can't give the yanks my sword cause I'm so sick! O'Hara can do it, cause hes not sick ... Oh!"
It was Oct 19th 1781 when we took Cornwallis and his troops prisoners of war. We got rid of the burden of George the Third, despite his troops.
Excepting Cornwallis's cowardice at the end, the British were men. like us yanks, and both sides fought well. You cheapen the strong familial relationship between England, and the USA by making comments like you did. I don't help by pointing out Cornwallis's feeble snub. Lets stop insulting each others countries, shall we?
I say a dead Saddam is a good Saddam. Finally.
USA, and her friends, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 02, 2007 01:12 AM (2OHpj)
Ya'll are cracking me up.
Posted by: Vinnie at January 02, 2007 01:49 AM (/qy9A)
Posted by: saddam at January 02, 2007 02:05 AM (kJEJ1)
He didn't hang for long enough to be dead for sure. Haven't you all heard about half hung maggie from edinburgh scotland?
Posted by: derek.g at January 02, 2007 02:36 AM (drlts)
Posted by: derek.g at January 02, 2007 02:39 AM (drlts)
How many childes and peaople have been kiled by Israelian , Bush and blaire and all your fucken army ,
Posted by: free man AMAZIGH at January 02, 2007 03:26 AM (nbV2U)
Posted by: Justanothermonkey at January 02, 2007 03:40 AM (DgGDm)
Posted by: davec at January 02, 2007 04:23 AM (yaQM4)
Posted by: LiLitH at January 02, 2007 04:28 AM (903bQ)
Posted by: Somebody at January 02, 2007 04:41 AM (vDubp)
Posted by: Somebody at January 02, 2007 04:42 AM (vDubp)
which country knew precisely what for that gas can be used? which country? check it out...
not seeing a plank in your own eye, so typical for humanoids...
http://www.vmrabolu.com
hurry!
Posted by: Somebody at January 02, 2007 04:45 AM (vDubp)
An evil death.
He should have been shot at the very day when he was captured, sparing this ugly show.
The long bleeding show that is happening in Iraq might have been made a bit shorter in that case.
I watched the video with disgust - Saddam and all those around look equally disgusting.
Saddam was corrupted by his power and by his dis-respect to life.
May he rot, together with all other dictators, murderers of all kinds and suicide bombers.
In their own heads, they all have good reasons for what they are doing.
May god send love and peace to every living soul, and may everyone on the earth have a lot to lose, so that all cherish life and hate death.
Posted by: TheDeerHunter at January 02, 2007 04:47 AM (fT1iY)
Posted by: "funny" humanoids at January 02, 2007 04:49 AM (vDubp)
you are not better than he is... you are as equally evil because you do evil not by acts but by wishing evil to other creatures...
Posted by: Somebody at January 02, 2007 04:52 AM (vDubp)
I, like you, came here to see Saddam hang.
After spending the past 45 minutes reading most of the comments, I have come to realise that I am glad to have been born in Australia.
I am glad that I can get up in the morning, drive (or walk) to my local Service Station and buy a paper to read back at home, drinking a cup of coffee with a piece of toast (I'm on a diet), then get into my car and put on some good, relaxing music and drive to work.
I work in an office environment with about 45 - 50 others all of different nationalities, different religions and colours.
We get along because we treat each other with respect.
After work, I might have a couple of drinks with some of my workmates.
When I head home, I may go shopping and buy my wife something nice, buy my 2 children some lollies or chocolate. I don't usually buy myself anything because I like to see the look on everyones faces when they notice that I went out of my way for them.
You see, the point I am trying to make is this.
Everyone has the opportunity to live a good life, be happy and provide for themselves and/or their family and friends.
Personally, I get very upset when people cross me the wrong way, upset my wife or kids.
You see, there is a side of me that let people know that I do not take shit from anyone.
I once lived a place called Wiley Park. It was at the start of the first Gulf War. I was sharing an apartment with a friend of mine. One day when he got off a train at Lakemba and started walking home, 2 guys walked up behind him, then pushed him. They began making threats that they would kill him etc...etc...
He ended up running, some of you may say he was a coward, I think not.
When he got home and told me about it, well let us say that I was not happy. I grabbed my car keys and told him to show me where they were. As I drove down a few streets, he indicated that they were further along, this time on bikes.
I told my friend to get out of the car (I parked across the road), he approached 1 of the guys and told him that he was now ready to talk, as there was 2 of them and 2 of us.
I crossed the road, pushed one of these guys off their bikes and was prepared to give these guys a hiding. Then, like all dogs, the pack started rushing in to help them.
Immediately thinking, Gee...Shit...What the fuck...I quickly ran back to my car and persuaded MRS OFF and her daughters to get out and help.
As MRS OFF pointed her finger at the crowd, a couple actually backed off. How powerful this woman is!
One of the guys who started this whole episode kept mouthing off to MRS OFF and her daughters.
One daughter in particular was not too keen on the language and attitude of this young fellow, and unfortunately she bit him on the foot.
Needless to say, My friend and I (MRS OFF and her remaining daughters) made a "quick getaway".
From what I heard in the local newspaper, the young guy that was bitten, lost his foot.
Disease I think.
You see, these people think they can say and do what they like in Australia.
Australia is a fun, sun loving nation that works hard.
We have never had to deal with any of this shit before. That is, being assaulted in the name of religion.
What the fuck is that.
You know. All of us in the developed world donate billions of dollars in aid each year to these fucking dogs.
We live our life in peace, work, pay taxes, provide aid, and provide military support where needed or requested.
These dogs are willing to take our fucking food, our aid and other assistance when it suits them, but still they FUCKING HATE US.
Is it just me, or can anyone else see this.
The food, Medicine and Money is GREEAAAAAT. Just don't try and teach us the way to support ourselves.
We all know who I am talking about.
I don't care what nationality you are, you are a friend of mine. I don't care what colour your skin is, I really don't care.
What I DO care about is Religion running peoples lives, instead of people running peoples lives.
Grow a brain, stop this in-breeding program with your fucking cousins, get some fucking skills, and while your at it, GET SOME FUCKING COMMON SENSE.
Two faced fucking scum. Your quite happy in taking our money, but oh no, don't try to create anything yourselves. Thats a fucking sin.
How can you take our money and loathe us at the same time?
You know, if your fucking religion is so fucking fantastic, why do you need our aid?
Now, you have been told you stupid, brain dead fucking MUSLIMS.
Posted by: I'm just glad I live in Australia at January 02, 2007 04:55 AM (U8Doj)
Posted by: John at January 02, 2007 04:58 AM (8SFL5)
Posted by: Finallyjustice at January 02, 2007 04:59 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Kito at January 02, 2007 05:00 AM (r8wGT)
Posted by: Jim at January 02, 2007 05:02 AM (HMbS2)
"Was Jeff Bargholz dropped on his head as a child? Does he know anything about history? Is he addicted to lying? Is the American Right Wing the E.Coli of politics?
Jeff, since you're so patriotic, when are you finishing your fourth tour of Iraq?"
Empty ad hominems and mindless projection instead of an argumant. How unusual for a leftist. Thanks for highlighting the infamous weak intellect of the unprincipled left. The chicken hawk libel was especially weak.
Since you're so unpatriotic, when are you enlisting in Al Qaeda or one of the human shield "peace groups" operating in Iraq?
Fucking moron.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 06:18 AM (abVz3)
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 06:21 AM (abVz3)
"Who's that jeff dude? Woe! Borders sells history books. Cheap. Get one. No. Get two or three. Read them. Study them. Learn them. Then join the military and do your duty. God bless!"
Borders also sells grammar and spelling programs. You need to buy some along with the history books you so desperately need, little projectionist.
The old chicken hawk argument is devoid of any sense or rationality. No wonder leftists love it. According to that little gem of illogic, nobody should support military action unless they're in the military, while the traitors who oppose it are free to spew all the bile they want. Simply juvenile. You leftists try to stifle any dissent, like the good little fascists you are.
The military cant support that many people in any case, Einstein.
I have a better idea. Why don't you join Al Qaeda and do your duty. I'd love to read your name on the terrorist KIA list.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 06:30 AM (abVz3)
"That execution video was barbaric. I didn't think it would be real, so I watched it. And my oh my, it was real. And those good Christians and Jews getting erections watching it are probably not that much different than the people I heard in the background of the video. Peace be with me (no point on including you)."
What's really barbaric is letting terrorist murderers go free to commit more murders, like you Eurotrash assholes do. Barbaric or not, Saddam got what he deserved. Just because the Iraqis who carried out the execution were incompetent, unorganized retards, doesn't mean they were wrong.
You atheist assholes are far more like the islamopithecines than dem Jooos and Christians are. Not only are the koranimals your allies, but you Marxist scum are the only ones to exceed their huge body count. You cunts murdered more than 300 million in the last century, and consigned countless more to misery.
Christians and Jews will never be in your league when it comes to barbarity. How did you manage to type your comment with your head lodged up your ass?
Cry, cry, baby. Saddam is dead, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 06:38 AM (abVz3)
The fact that your gov sending the troops to Iraq only for protecting private oil bussiness not for U.S. pride. And now you were blame it to Saddam for the destroyed Humvee dan thousands dead US soldier? Actually they we're the victim of your government policy. They were dead for protecting the ambigious of clolonialism, robber the natural resource from Iraq.
What was Saddam did is to protect his country and nation of Iraq against the robber, colonialism and Iraqi betrayer. Please all you guys open your mind, don't let your self drowning in stupidity. Lets we see who will be in hell?
Posted by: noan at January 02, 2007 06:42 AM (vXzWL)
"Scott, you daring fool, I'm an American and I resent you attempting to speak for me. Look retard, Europeans don't like Muslims and don't think they can be appeased. I mean, shit dude, stop wasting your time watching Fox news. Most Europeans just don't think it's worth it to waste time, money, and lives on a bunch of idiots who don't even have the collective brain power to pump their own oil. What we did in Iraq has been a gift from asshole "Allah" to that sociopathic shit-eater Bin Laden. Things are not as black and white as you obviously think they are. Stop masturbating to Bill O'Reilly and get it right - so to speak."
Islamopithecines in Eurabia practice sharia, while raping and murdering Eorotrash appeasers on a daily basis. They live on the public dole and riot every night.
Who's the fucking retard? It sure as hell isn't Bill O'Reilly. You leftards really fear him, don't you? He's a populist, so I can only imagine the spittle-flecked hatred you reserve for conservatives.
Enjoy life on the lunatic fringe, bed-wetter.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 06:44 AM (abVz3)
I was born and raised in Ireland so was therefore brought up with sectarian violence and murder on my doorstep.
I feel pretty confident that I know much more on the subject than you do.
I was also brought up listening to the poison rhetoric spouted forth by BOTH sides against the other.
You talk about hate filled Muslims infecting the world etc but seem to fail to realise that you are putting here in print the same sort of hate filled propoganda that they are putting forth about the west.
The experience in my own country has shown that it is only when this stops that any sort of real progress be made.
Until it does people in all areas of the conflict will continue to be murdered.
I am not, for the record, any sort of limp wristed liberal. I just think that views such as yours make no contribution to ending the cycle of violence, they just perpetuate it."
Where in Ireland were you born and raised? The IRA didn't blow things up everywhere. Were you in the IRA? I didn't know the IRA was a muslim terrorist group.
I've lived in an islamic country. Have you? Didn't think so.
The argument that only first hand knowledge is valid is a specious one anyway, and completely juvenile. I've never been to the Sun, but I could give you accurate temperature readings for it.
From your comments, it's obvious that you know dick-all about islam and islamic terrorism. If the subject you know much more about than I do is getting drunk and falling down, I agree with you.
I don't spread propaganda at all, much less propaganda that calls to kill everyone who fails to share my religious beliefs. There is no moral equivalency between me and the terrorists.
The IRA still spouts anti-English propaganda, so you obviously are dead wrong. The terrorism stopped because the public had had enough, and the IRA goons can get what they want without terrorism.
There is no such thing as a cycle of violence. That's just left-wing doublethink. There is only personal responsibility, and the irrefutable fact of implacable islamopithecine belligerence.
Grow up.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 06:57 AM (abVz3)
Posted by: sac at January 02, 2007 07:03 AM (d2Zsv)
England's best and brightest had already emigrated to the colonies long before 1776, we kicked your inbred asses in two different wars, and saved them in two others.
The orgy of inbreeding in Britain since 1776 produced you and the other rotten toothed dhimmies who allow islamopithecines to screech death to Britian on your street corners. Good job on yer.
I pity the patriotic Brits who managed to avoid all the inbreeding. Their formerly great country is now infested with koranimals and chav scum like you.
Cheers, bitch.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 07:03 AM (abVz3)
In case you missed it the first time, there is no moral equivalency between child molesters and genocideal tyrants. It's immoral and idiotic to claim otherwise.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 07:05 AM (abVz3)
>
> dearest deer... hunter.
>
> you are not better than he is... you are as
> equally evil because you do evil not by acts but
> by wishing evil to other creatures...
>
> Somebody.
'Somebody', you are quite wrong here.
A moral human being cannot wish good to murderers.
If you wish them well, then you are not making
this world better.
Faith, beliefs and ideologies can take many
twists, but this one of yours is going really far.
Do you truly believe that wishing justice to
murderers makes one evil?!
So, you believe that I am no better than Saddam
Hussein, because I think that murderers must rot ...
Posted by: TheDeerHunter at January 02, 2007 07:06 AM (fT1iY)
Posted by: rafael at January 02, 2007 07:08 AM (jed4i)
Posted by: rafael at January 02, 2007 07:08 AM (jed4i)
Posted by: rafael at January 02, 2007 07:08 AM (jed4i)
Posted by: rafael at January 02, 2007 07:09 AM (jed4i)
Posted by: rafael at January 02, 2007 07:09 AM (jed4i)
(Nice combination you two make. It sounds like your favorite food group.) You two are hands down the most despicable degenerates on this thread to cry over Saddam's execution--and that's really saying something. You are the reason the extreme left is relegated to the lunatic fringe. "White's" belief that being White is shameful is reason enought to place him firmly in the sewer of ideas you scum crawled out of.
Saddam is dead lowlives, and there's not a thing you can do about it except piss and moan. Stew in the juices of your own demented hatred, you mental defectives.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 07:12 AM (abVz3)
Do you miss your brain after having donated it to science? A liberal is tolerant and progressive--something you and all other self-proclaimed liberals most definitely are not.
Even before your cranial evacuation, you had to be a retard. Who else would discard what little brains they had?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 07:15 AM (abVz3)
I agree with Jeff Bargholz. The liberal people always think they are sooooo smart. Me and Jeff seem to be the only smart thinking people who use the brains here!!! Liberals always say they are tolerant. They NEVER accept are positions. We give them the facts and show why the Arabs in Iran have to get back to the way that we said. They always like Saddam. He was mean and murdered lots of people adn didnt say why. The liberals just like saying things. Jeff, lets not listen to them because it is not going to be any good for the arguments anymore. I reead your post and there are the best ones and I agree with everything. they have the points. And O'rielly is great and he is the only sourse of the good news with no liberals bias!!! He wont listen to anything they say and he know exactly what to say.
Posted by: rightproud at January 02, 2007 07:22 AM (AA/Rk)
I have re-read all of your contributions so far and come to the conclusion that you are likley to be a very intelligent and educated person.
You say in response to my message that the argument of first hand knowledge is juvenile yet you have mentioned at least twice that you have lived in a muslim country as if it gives you justification for your views on the muslim world.
It is obvious that the experience of living there has damaged you and your view of that part of the world.
I am interested to know what it is about that experience that has caused you so much pain that you feel the need to insult and abuse in these pages anyone who holds a different view to yours.
Did you have a bad experience at the hands of the people in that country or do you just find for example the way they treat women an affront to your sense of what is right or wrong?
I would be genuinely interested in what causes you to have such hatred.
As I have said, I think, reading between the lines of abuse, you are actually a well informed and intelligent person but you disguise the fact underneath all of the swearing and personal abuse in your messages.
Try to answer this without resorting to the abuse. You may find that people in this forum would be more prepared to absorb what you say rather than take the piss out of you all the time.
Posted by: Andrew at January 02, 2007 07:35 AM (lNm0v)
Posted by: rightproud at January 02, 2007 07:37 AM (AA/Rk)
If everyone in this world is to be hanged for killing people, everyone 'should' be punished/hanged - no exceptions.
And if this really does happen, then I'm looking forward to the date people decide to hang Bush.
Cheers.
Posted by: aimen at January 02, 2007 07:58 AM (Z0QQt)
The fact that your gov sending the troops to Iraq only for protecting private oil bussiness not for U.S. pride. And now you guys were blame it to Saddam for the destroyed Humvee dan thousands dead US soldier? Actually they we're the victim of your government policy. They were dead for protecting the ambigious of clolonialism, robber the natural resource from Iraq.
What was Saddam did is to protect his country and nation of Iraq against the robbery,colonialism and Iraqi betrayer. Please all you guys open your mind, don't let your self drowning in stupidity.
Posted by: NOAN at January 02, 2007 08:07 AM (po7+i)
Posted by: rightproud at January 02, 2007 08:14 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Ann at January 02, 2007 08:14 AM (RTKsW)
If that's your idea of comedy, don't quit your day job, asswipe.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 08:18 AM (8e/V4)
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/my best impersonation of a Liberal.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 08:30 AM (8e/V4)
Posted by: rightproud at January 02, 2007 08:32 AM (AA/Rk)
What a conincidence that the video at a world leader's execution just happends to be of shitty quality!!!!
It´s a Saddam look-a-like. Some bearded guy with what's supposed to be a rope around his neck and we never see him ACTUALLY choking. For christ's sake... it's all fake. He was never killed. The CIA payed him a couple of million to just shut up and leave. Fucking grow up people!!!!
Posted by: johnny at January 02, 2007 08:38 AM (7K6lR)
Posted by: ghie at January 02, 2007 08:58 AM (OltTC)
Posted by: ghie at January 02, 2007 08:59 AM (OltTC)
Political correctiness is destroying this country!!
Posted by: Debby at January 02, 2007 09:19 AM (cwy9p)
And in the most astonishingly obvious act of AIPAC propaganda, yet an even bigger fool suggested that the Chinese military is a joke. Nice try, Jeff. We are not stupid enough to dump our entire country into the Middle East. Go lobby somewhere else.
Posted by: Pink Flower at January 02, 2007 09:31 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 09:41 AM (8e/V4)
Get off your computers and LIVE people!
Posted by: mark at January 02, 2007 09:45 AM (d5lLK)
Jeff, I couldn't help to find funny your comments, I dont dislike you, I think we should have more poeple like you, with the strenght of the convictions you have on this part of the world. By the way bro, I am not mexican...far from it, and I dont do peyote...but coke...lol..anyway , peace with you.
TO "EL VENDIDO" JESUSLAND :
You are wrong in what you say. What makes a person, it's his race, his culture, and the genetical inheritance of his parents and ancestry. His way of thinking is only a minor, but significant part of it. Those things that make your blood count can not be change, but what you think can be changed and transform, by learning first hand, or by influence like in your case. Next time look at yourself on the mirror, a green card doesnt make you american fool, if thats what you think, you are in a sad state of being, if not , go and ask the KKK and White Supremacy what they think about you ...dont make me laugh!!!...
Yes, I think you are a VENDIDO, but its not too late to wake up, and by the way, I say it again...I AM NOT MEXICAN...AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN IN CHIAPAS..., but I respect the mexican people, if thats where your ancestry is from, you dont deserve it man.
TO THE IRISH :
The IRA is right, as long as England is in Northern Ireland, keep fighting, thats all they understand. BUT WATCH OUT...DONT LET THE YANKS TAKE OVER AFTER THEM EITHER MATE!.
TO THE AUSSIE GUY :
God bless Australia and watch
out the bloody lebs mate!
Peace to you brother.
That was all my children:
EL MONJE
Posted by: EL MONJE at January 02, 2007 10:11 AM (zNJ3f)
It was hard to watch for me because the sound was bad...I couldn't hear his neck snap and it was also hard to watch from a grainy, shaky cell phone cam.
Bring it on in HD so I can see it on my big screen TV in glorious, pixelated color.
Posted by: Laura at January 02, 2007 10:42 AM (SsxYL)

Saddam wasn't quite human, and neither are the majority of islamopithecines, so you're going to have to come up with a better reason for us to stop killing you. (Not that we killed Saddam--we let you koranimals do that.)
Don't worry. You'll be sharing a pit in Hell with Saddamite and the prohet pretender, child molester Muhammad (piss be upon her,) sooner or later.
Enjoy your devil worshipping cult while you can. It's only a matter of time until the West--and China--grow tired of you and destroy islame once and for all. allah koos!
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 11:11 AM (abVz3)
Don't kid yourself: the majority of Americans detest islamopithecines and their death cult.
Islame is a fundamentalist religion, you ignoramus. Those you call fundamentalists are the pious majority by koranimal standards. Try reading the koran instead of regurgitating happy talk and wishful thinking. Better yet, read what the islamopaths are writing, and listen to what they are saying. They aren't exactly shy about their sociopathic intentions.
Try not to be such a fucking git.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 11:19 AM (abVz3)
"Hello US Sucks, go fuck Mohammed in the ass."
We're already doing it in Iraq and Afghanistan. Why am I not surprised you like it?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 11:21 AM (abVz3)
kalimah thoybah la illaha ilalal lahu muhammadur rasululah Muhammad koos sucks cock...
if youve read dis....you have officially become a muslim...pat urself on the back lol =P"
You've officially become a laughing stock by writing that. Nobody cares about the choking pig grunts of Arabic. I'm not molesting goats and little boys, or wiping my ass with my bare hand before dinner, so I guess I'm not a muslime. Your stone age curse didn't work, you primitive cretin.
If you're a muslime....you have officially become a target.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 11:27 AM (abVz3)
monje,
so you think I'm not a "real" American because the KKK doesn't think I am? LOL. That's funny. Ironically, your insecurities about what they think means you live under their boot (como un indio aplastado), while I could not care less what they think. Their racism doesn't impact my life or my identity even in the slightest. In fact, my ideas and values make me MORE american than they because being American isn't about race, it's about an idea (which you clearly are oblivious to). God bless America.
What makes a person, it's his race, his culture, and the genetical
inheritance of his parents and ancestry. His way of thinking is only a
minor,
If you believe a man's thinking is minor, then you are not an enlightened man, but a primitive and tribal one. The world doesn't need any more of that! A man's thinking is EVERYTHING. We are not dogs or cattle whose identity is determined by who we rutted with. We are humans with MINDS that think. If you choose to be cattle, be my guest. I choose to be human.
Yes, culture does matter because it is about ideas and values. But not race. Race is only about skin color, bone structure, nostril flair, etc. Those are irrelevant distractions for the ignorant and primitive.
I do not choose sides based on race, nor even culture. So I am a "vendido". And proudly so. It makes me superior to you because I choose sides based on what I believe is right, or wrong. Race does not make something right or wrong. Nor does culture. Right or wrong stands objectively apart from such things. That's the difference between enlightened thinking vs the gut feelings of a primitive tribesman. So yes, I'm proudly vendido.
Re my "green card", I never needed one, as I was born right here in the US of A (New York City, to be precise). Yet my family ancestry goes back to the 1800s in Texas. So I don't have your insecurities about not being a "true" American.
Yes, I think you are a VENDIDO, but its not too late to wake up, and by
the way, I say it again...I AM NOT MEXICAN...AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN IN
CHIAPAS..., but I respect the mexican people, if thats where your
ancestry is from, you dont deserve it man.
Wake up to what? To primitive thinking? To tribalism? How bout you wake up to the 21st century.
ps., I have been to chiapas. It was awesome.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 12:05 PM (8e/V4)
against IRAN...so actually your president deserves to be hanged
too.....
Ann,
Wrong. You've been sold a bill of goods. Saddam's arsenal was primarily Russian and French-- not American. Only about 3% of his arsenal was American-made. Look it up.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 12:12 PM (8e/V4)
Roll in Hell MADDAS!
Posted by: Aaliyah at January 02, 2007 12:33 PM (1EhBI)
Roll in Hell MADDAS!
Posted by: Aaliyah at January 02, 2007 12:33 PM (1EhBI)
Roll in Hell MADDAS!
Posted by: Aaliyah at January 02, 2007 12:34 PM (1EhBI)
Roll in Hell MADDAS!
Posted by: Aaliyah at January 02, 2007 12:34 PM (1EhBI)
The book of Leviticus did not order the ancient and extinct tribe of Leviticus or any other Hebrew tribe to kill people. It described tribal life, which was mainly governed by oral law.
It's a moot point because the 12 ancient tribes of Israel are exctinct, they did not force their laws or religion on outsiders, and there is no Christian or Jewish practice of murdering homos or anybody else today.
Islamopithecines, however, are another story entirely.
Atheists are the greatest mass murderers in history. More than 300 million in the 20th century alone, and you scum are itching to up the ante by killing everyone who disagrees with you--you just don't have the power. As far as superstition goes, what's more superstitious than thinking a compressed ball of nothing blew up and transmogrified into matter, energy, and the physical laws of the universe? Believing that takes a lot more faith than believing in a guiding hand. There is not a single instance of a spontaneous event in the natural universe. Not one.
America kills terrorists, while Saddam killed his own people, yet you think Iraq was better off under him. That says a lot about what a miserable Limey prick you are. Impersonating an American is weak, although I wouldn't want to admit I was British either.
The terrorists are dying in droves in Iraq, and when Bush takes out the regimes in Iran and Syria in the next couple of years, they won't have an entry point into Iraq anymore. Get your hanky out now, douchebag.
Unpatriotic ass-pounders like you are just like those wankers who forced us to abandon Vietnam to the communist murderers. 3 million murdered as soon as the Democrats witheld the funds they promised South Vietnam. Not that a cock-sucker like you cares how many people are killed because of your child-like ideology. And it's no surprise that a bunch of unpatriotic chicken-shit draft dodging boy-fuckers want us to abandon the Iraqis the same way.
Kentucky produced Abraham Lincoln and the world's best bourbon. Unlike you rotten toothed queers, the Kentucky Baptists frown on fudge-packing. As far as incest goes, take a look at your "royal" family, dickweed. Nobody inbreeds like you Brits do. When you aren't chewing on ecstasy and buggering boys, that is. Butt ramming sixteen year olds is illegal in this country, Chester the molester. Not even sheep are safe in your sick country. There are no American chavs.
If you want a good way to execute somebody, just feed him some British beef. If the taste doesn't kill him, the mad cow disease will.
The New Dork Times editorial page is about as reliable as you are. Quoting its rantings is like the NYT quoting your unhinged blathering. It's like circle jerking, so I'm not surprised you do it. There is no sunni celebration that starts on the day your hero was hanged. You're a willing dupe if you believe that shit.
You sure seem to be hung up on homos. Only a flaming faggot talks about butt-pumping and sucking cock as much as you do. Dhimmiecrats want to legalize gay "marriage" and let 13 year old boys take it up the ass (Bader Ginsburg wants it, Barney Frank does it,) and you call Republicans queers. There's nothing wrong with being gay, you know. You don't have to overcompensate with your butch posturing. Most moderates and conservatives have no problem with homos per se, so your self-loathing is unnecessary. Felch away, and don't forget the apple butter. Just don't do it in public, like George Michaels.
You don't watch Fox News, so you really aren't qualified to comment on it. A sub-literate mongoloid like you cant afford cable TV, and Fox doesn't have a preschool version. You'll just have to stick to squirting in your pants over the BBC and the Teletubbies.
"I wonder whether your boyfriend sleeps comfortably at night with you beside him. My guess is that he hides all the knives in the apartment, 'cause I sure fucking would."
So you hide the knives from your boyfriend? Before or after you play hide the Vienna sausage?
That about covers all your inane comments. I can say in all honesty that the weirdos and islamopithecines commenting on this thread are some of the stupidest, vilest, most despicable hatemongers I've ever encountered. I'm sure you aren't White, by the way. Why are you ashamed of your true race? Race is nothing to be ashamed of, just personal behaviour, for which you have a great deal to be ashamed of.
God save the queens! (90% of the male population in Britain.)
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 12:38 PM (abVz3)
Duh, this is the Internet, don't you know if you repeat a lie enough times it becomes true?
America sold Saddam all his biological weapons!
America put Saddam in power!
ad nauseum
Posted by: davec at January 02, 2007 12:39 PM (yaQM4)
Apparently we know a lot more about Saddam's actions than you do. Not that that's saying much. We also know more about islame than you do, even though we aren't subhuman islamopithecines. Understanding a stone age cult isn't difficult for the most accomplished people ever to exist, retard. Americans were striding to the moon like gods while you hominids were fucking camels. Hell, you're still fucking camels when you can afford to.
Man, this is fun. The retards here make great target practice. Too bad it isn't the real thing, but oh well. It's still fun.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 12:49 PM (abVz3)
"RIP Saddam.
Only the white skinned English speaking leaders of the so called "civilised nations" get away with their share of crimes against Iraqi people."
Those White skinned English speaking leaders you hate so much are the main defenders of the Iraqi people, you brain diseased cretin.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 12:52 PM (abVz3)
Not doing so well on witholding the abuse and swearing are you?
Funny how your message to White Trash was such an accurate self-parody.
You are the very embodiment of the stereotypical ignorant yank that the rest of the world despises so much.
Someone else here has suggested that you are representative of mainstream American opinion.
God help us all if that is true. Your country would then be as much of a threat to the rest of us as the muslim terrorists are.
In fact I think I might have seen you interviewed on tv last year. Some inbred deep south hillbilly was ranting on about how he was looking forward to cheaper "gas" now that America "owned" Iraq.
Posted by: Andrew at January 02, 2007 12:59 PM (lNm0v)
Posted by: Andrew at January 02, 2007 01:01 PM (lNm0v)
Whore Lagaan:
"RIP Saddam.
Only the white skinned English speaking leaders of the so called "civilised nations" get away with their share of crimes against Iraqi people."
Those White skinned English speaking leaders you hate so much are the main defenders of the Iraqi people, you brain diseased cretin.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 2, 2007 12:52 PM
Truth hurt him !!!!
Posted by: LordLagaan at January 02, 2007 01:09 PM (r54vp)
Posted by: Andrew at January 02, 2007 01:13 PM (lNm0v)
They should have beheaded him on the internet and held his head up like the bastards did to all those who were beheaded.
He got what was coming
Posted by: Josh Green at January 02, 2007 01:16 PM (QZNkF)
Posted by: el_mujahid_fayze at January 02, 2007 01:17 PM (i2kwB)
I think you have found a soul mate in el_mujahid_fayze.
Same mentality, you just happen to sit on opposite sides of the fence.
Posted by: Andrew at January 02, 2007 01:20 PM (lNm0v)
Posted by: Eduardo at January 02, 2007 01:49 PM (2blVF)
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Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 02:05 PM (8e/V4)
"The real difficulties people around the world have with american foreign policy only began with the election of George W Bush. He has done as much damage to the worlds perception of your country as the fundamentalists are doing to the perception of the muslim religion."
Bullshit. The real dificulty people around the world have with America is snivelling envy and ignorant misperceptions. None of the reasons given for hating America would hold water, even if they were applied consistently, which they're not. All the phony criticisms against America are never levelled against the rotten countries that they really do apply to. Look at this thread, and what's been written. The majority of the world's countries are crooked, belligerent, human rights basket cases, and a genocidal monster has just been executed for his manifold crimes against humanity. How do you people respond? By demonizing America. It's an illness, it really is.
The European news media are even worse than ours. Lies and distortions are the norm in both, but the psychotic America bashing of the Euro media is truly obscene in its scope. Bush had nothing to do with it. Any Republican president would have been viewed the same way, and you know it. Clinton, on the other hand, was excused for bombing Yugoslavia into rubble and murdering tens of thousands to aid Al Qaeda and the other muslime forces running wild there. Good God, the majority of Europeans actually believe that Bush is more of a threat to world stability than Bin Loser, Kim Jung Ill, Saddam, or the mad mullahs in Iran!!! Most young people in Erabia and Canada believe America is evil!
How can I take such people seriously? Why would I consider anything they have to say? Even without their blind, stinking hatred of America, their a sad, foolish, and pathetic lot. I don't have patience for morons like that. I don't waste my time trying to like people who hate me in any case. They're the ones who need to change their outlook, not me.
Islam commands all its followers to murder and enslave the rest of the world or burn in Hell, so good luck finding those moderate muslimes you mentioned. Any muslime who rejects that pillar of islame is considered a heretic or apostate, and so marked for death by his own religion. Sorry to break it to you, but that's just the way it is. You need to realize that not all religions or people are rational or peaceful. Evil does exist. Islame is responsible for most of the evil done by muslimes, not the other way around. Islam was concocted by a genocidal, pillaging, thieving, lying, cowardly, raping, slave raiding, homophobic, misogynistic child molester--and islam is based on his life, so its a carbon copy.
Your attempts to draw a moral equivalency between terrorists and "right-wing" Americans is ludicrous. The terrorists are traveling to Iraq from around the world to KILL Iraqis, not to help them.
America doesn't try to impose its will around the world. We know that would be impossible. We take care of the problems the rest of the world whines about but doesn't try to solve. Whenever evil rears its head, the world cries for american help (by help, I mean crying for America to do all the heavy work,) but whenever we do help, it pisses and moans about imagined American hegemony and arrogance--although you're all secretly glad we're here to do the policing jobs you aren't capable of doing. America doesn't try to control the world, and we don't even dominate it. We just outperform everyone else. There will always be one country that outperforms all other countries, and right now, we are that country. We will be for some time, becuse China is an overrated joke.
Remember, the world used to hate the Soviet Union when they thought it was a superpower. Now that America has been revealed as the world's sole superpower and Russia is a basket case, nobody hates Russia anymore--even though its a huge human rights abuser and destabilizing force in the world.
"GW Bush the coward
Who exactly hasnt got the balls to invade Iraq?"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the rest of the world--especially the "progressive" Eurabians--aided and abetted Saddam's crimes for decades, and made fortunes doing so. If it weren't for Bush, America would never have invaded, much less England.
"The rest had the same sort of bigoted view that we have seen displayed here against anyone that is not American."
Talk about rank hypocrisy and projection! Yikes!
I mentioned having lived in the stone aged world in response to your comment about living with the IRA, and mentioned that it didn't matter. Nice try. Anyway, having lived there did give me special insights into the islamopithecine mind. First hand knowledge is valid. What I said is that claiming only first hand knowledge is valid is a juvenile argument. And so it is. Few educations are first hand educations, after all. History, astronomy, theology, archaeology, paleontolgy, etc. would not be possible if only first hand knowledge were utilized.
Living amongst the savages didn't damage me, it opened my eyes. Their religion is an abomination, and an affront to humanity. There is no place in the modern world for a primitive cult bent on slaughter, rapine, and world conquest. Not only that, but wog culture is debased to the core, and is the source of their religion, which is in turn the source of their behaviour--not the other way around like leftists believe. The reason I hate islame is becuses I understand it. Read the koran, the hadiths, and the surahs. Once you learn what islame really is, you'll hate it too. You don't have to hate all muslimes to hate islame. Yes, I hate the majority of muslimes because of their actions, but it's the cult itself that I really hate. If you don't want to read the whole koran, etc., just go to one of the many websites that explain islame. Islamundressed.com, jihadwatch.com, etc. Read the new book about the life of Muhammad by Robert Spencer. His policy suggestions for dealing with islam are unrealistic, but he's an islamic scholar second to none. He can rattle off koranic passages like he wrote the book himself.
As for the abuse, most of the dingbats here deserve nothing else. I have no patience for moral retards who cry over Saddam and claim that execution is wrong, while demanding that President Bush be executed in the next sentence (often in the same sentence!) without a hint of irony. I have even less for islamotards who claim Weterners are stupid, ignorant, savages, and then threaten to kill us becuse we dared to recognize islame's inherent savagery. I'm having a bit of fun at their expense. I don't have the slightest desire to try and enlighten them, or sway them to my point of view. They're beyond reason. I ridicule them because I enjoy it, and they need to be put in their place. They're too used to operating in an echo chamber, were everyone reaffirms their sick, moronic views. They need to learn that theyre in the extreme minority, and that the rest of us are on to them.
You seem to be an intelligent, decent guy, but you have a lot to learn about islame. Cheers.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 02:31 PM (abVz3)
"connedservatives."
Posted by: Ken Hoop at January 02, 2007 02:35 PM (DZbll)
That's much better. A reasoned argument based on your own knowledge of the muslim religion which I accept is probably much better than mine.
I take back the "deep south inbred" comments and revert to the original ones referring to your obvious well-informed intelligence.
I do still think however that you are (I suppose understandably) looking at the USA through rose-tinted spectacles.
A lot of the ammunition (pardon the pun) that the muslim world uses against the west is propoganda developed from mistakes in US foreign policy.
I am not alone in thinking that America wants to impose its will on the rest of the world in a simlar, but less extreme, way as the muslims do.
Leaving the US and muslim worlds aside for the moment you will find very few people (including me) who disagree that Saddam was a monster.
Howevr you will find a great number of people that are confused as to the motives of the coalition for invading Iraq. Yes it is a given that Saddam need to be removed, it should have been done the first time around but there are obvious benifits for the west from the reserves of oil in the country.
If Iraq is left to govern itself and grow rich and its people prosper and have their lives enriched as a result of selling those reserves around the world it would be the best outcome.
Troops (of all the nations involved) are still there in order to help this happen.
Some people however are suspicious as to America and the coalitions motives - are they there in order to to be able to claim the lions share of that oil? Only time will tell.
I personally think that the next real world confict will arise from the battle to control the dwindling oil resources and China as it develops and needs ever greater volumes of the stuff will be right in the middle of it.
If it hasnt started already that is.
Posted by: Andrew at January 02, 2007 02:37 PM (lNm0v)
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Posted by: arielle at January 02, 2007 02:40 PM (HQ913)
stupid on so many levels, where to begin? Here's one though. The Dems ran on a promise of "change". They won. Now president Bush, John McCain, and many generals are suggesting a troop increase in Iraq. So what do the newly-elected Dems in Congress say about it? They agree! Change indeed, LOL. There's a big difference between campaigning vs governing. Bill Clinton isn't stupid. He would do little if anything different than what's being done now. The alternative, however, would be a retreat. And if you think that would "save" our country, then you've earned the stupid prize.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 02:43 PM (8e/V4)
What are the "sophisticate" left wing moonbats going to say, when their policies and agendas endanger our country, and result in a terrorist attack? will you be rooting for the Sunni insurgency then?
Heh-heh, just because you feed the crocodile, doesn't mean he'll eat you last - moron.
Posted by: davec at January 02, 2007 02:45 PM (yaQM4)
Something is unbeatable only if you lack the will to win. Thanks to Leftists such as yourself, that is quickly becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. The truth is you don't want America to win. You know it, we know it. But please have the courage of your convictions to admit it openly. But you won't because that would more or less defeat your purpose, wouldn't it.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 02:47 PM (8e/V4)
Hell that's exactly what George W. has done where is his noose? The sad part is because of him we are loosing more and more freedoms everyday .. has anyone even heard of the "the read ID"? Can anyone say big brother here? This isn't going to stop terrorisim but it sure as hell is going to keep a closer tab on you and me.
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Posted by: essi at January 02, 2007 02:59 PM (yvtb8)

Your tired muslime drivel about ignorant Westerners not understanding the world's most primitive religion, and Jewish conspirators posing as American patriots, belongs in the gutter from which it sprang.
"We are supposed to be civilised society he could have got a life sentence."
Who told you islamic society was civilized? If you actually believe that, you're an imbecile. Saddam's death was incredibly merciful by islamopithecine standards.
"I did not see Slobadam Molosevich or Pinneche get a similar end."
Neither of those men were in Saddam's league when it came to mayhem, and neither of them were tried in iraq, you imbecile. (Yes, I've concluded that you're an imbecile.) Milosevic wasn't even guilty of the crimes he was accused of. Not even the kornimal influenced "world" court convicted him of the crimes he was accused of.
"And to film it afterwards and air it in the media is clearly disgusting. Guys have you forgotten the Geneva convention that does not allow you to show pictures of dead American soldiers or any other soldiers for that matter) yet here you are showing a deposed President as if it were a circus where is the Geneva convention now?"
Iraq is not a signatory of the Geneva Conventions retard, and Saddam was not a soldier in any case. You koranimals shit on the Geneva conventions, but you expect us to tie our hands with them while dealing with vermin like you. Dream on.
"...well that would have clearly implicated Germany, France the UK and USA over who provided the gas in the first place and clearly they did not want Saddam to reveal that..."
More muslime propaganda. Chemical Ali produced the chemical wepons used by Saddam, you dumb-fuck. Do you honestly expect us to be as stupid as you, and believe that shit? (Shit, shiite, what's the difference?)
"Modern day America has allot of blood on it's hands from it covert operations and hides behind an illusion of justice the US did not care about bringing peace to Iraq or the Middle East, it is simply about Oil and power."
Conspiracy theories about covert operations are for tinhat retards. You probably believ in UFOs and aliens as well. Stop watching "X-Files" reruns. Oil and power? Where's the oil we took? Why are gas prices higher than ever, you blindingly stupid ignoramus? Power? Why didn't we keep Iraq after we conquered it? That's what you koranimals do, not us. Why are we spending trillions of our hard earned dollars to build that country? Where are the tax dollars and tribute the Iraqis are forced to pay us "imperialists?" I understand that you're stupid, but even a dolt should be able to figure out that particular truth.
"It does not matter weather you are from the Jewish faith or a Muslim either Shia or Sunni neither Christian we all have the same message that was brought to us by Jesus , Abraham, Moses and the Prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him to live a good life and that there is one God."
Wrong. Neither Christianity nor Judaism preach jihad, and allah the mythical moon deity is not God. God does not reward people for murder, rape, deceit, and stupidity. Muhammad piss be upon him in Hell was a prophet pretender and a child molester. An epileptic, diseased, lice-ridden, insane, goat fucking liar would never be chosen by God as a prophet. Muhomo was a pawn of Satan, who he claimed he spoke to.
"Why does Tony Blair support the US every time even when he believes it is wrong..it is simply Politics the UK cannot afford to not support the US it is all a game of politics. It has been 3 years and yet the allied forces cannot control Iraq yet Saddam managed it.."
Blair sacrificed his political career to aid America in the overthrow of Saddam,. Saddam controlled Iraq through murder and torture--is that what you want America to do? How many times do I have to point out how dumb you are?
"look to Africa and see what true Evil is happening and has happened their look to even eastern Europe yet why should you care it is just a land of poverty and no future bank roll nor black gold."
America cant solve all the world's evils at once, and Africans aren't the threat to world stability that Middle Easterners are. Americans are spending billions to aid Africans--how much are you koranimals spending? That's what I thought. Again, where's the black gold America is allegedly taking?
The only reason you're crying over Saddam is because he was a koranimal, and you know the same thing is in store for the Iranian mullahs and all the other islamopithecine terorists.
As an Oxford graduate, you sure have a hard time with the English language and logical debate. If you graduated from Oxford, it must be an even bigger joke than I thought it was. If Max Power knew you were British, he would have properly identified you as a sheep shagger, not a goat fucker. I'm sure you haven't touched a goat since you left Dubai.
Your lies and distortions concerning Saddam's flouting of the UN resolutions and the American Cease-fire were hilarious. I wish I had your superior education. Then I could defend Psuedostinian terrorists and their war to exterminate Israel.
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to laugh at your expense. Your comments were unintentionally hilarious, and I enjoyed belittling you. You aren't as stupid as the other koranimals commenting on this thread, but that isn't saying much. Only a retard could choose to be a muslime. Here's looking at you: sucking my dick!
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 03:24 PM (abVz3)
"...the rich people in Iraq are leaving by the droves, the poor, dont have the means too, and dont have jobs, so they get caught up in the Shia - Sunnahviolence."
Bullshit. Refugees have been returning to Iraq in record numbers. Far more have returned than have ever left. Try reading something besides moonbat propaganda. And yes, "insurgents" murdering innocent Iraqis and trying to destabilize the country are terrorists. Coalition soldiers are the most restrained that ever lived, along with the IDF. Your mayhem slander is fuck-all stupid.
Sending in more troops is what you moonbats used to demand Bush do. Now that he is, you complain about that. Your complaints are a joke.
Yes, Bush has trouble convincing people that Iraq is connected to "the war on terrorism," becuase 1/4 of the population is retarded.
Case in point.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 03:36 PM (abVz3)
Now you're what a Brit is supposed to be. The British cunts who've been crying about Saddam on this thread don't deserve to live in your country, just like the American cunts don't deserve to live here.
Cheers.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 03:39 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: Darth Odie at January 02, 2007 03:41 PM (YdcZ0)
Saddam is burning in Hell with the prophet pretender Muhammad (piss be upon her.) They are being used as the 72 virgins for Satan's demons. Since there are only 2 of them instead of 72, those demons are going to be busy *&^%&*%^% them for a looooooong time.
Islam is for animals. That's why you're known as koranimals. I hope you enjoyed the video, sweetheart.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 03:48 PM (abVz3)
Great comment. I like Australians, and it pisses me off to read about police stations being attacked, riots at the beach, rising crime rates, gang rapes, and all the other things the islamopithecines are doing to your beautiful and unique country.
I assume Mrs OFF and her daughters were real dogs, because one bit the musdog in the foot. The thought of a koranimal losing his foot to an infection from a bite is hilarious. Muzzies are terrified of dogs, don't you know.
Thanks for making my day.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 04:00 PM (abVz3)
I reread your comment and I assume Mrs OFF is your wife and her daughters are doggies. I'm pretty sure no person would bite someone's foot.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 04:03 PM (abVz3)
Thanks for your reply.
To set things straight,
MRS OFF is a hyphenated name. Her full name is MRS Sawn-Off.
Her finger was a Barrel.
Her daughter was made of lead.
The disease was lead poisoning.
The only dog / dogs there at the time were inbred, you know, kissing cousins and so forth.
Long live the WESTERN WORLD and the FREEDOM it provides us.
Happy New Year!
Posted by: I'm just glad I live in Australia at January 02, 2007 04:28 PM (U8Doj)
Posted by: Sally Stole the Football Bat at January 02, 2007 04:50 PM (eVnv8)
Posted by: Octavian at January 02, 2007 04:53 PM (1KTGu)
Posted by: Octavian at January 02, 2007 04:53 PM (1KTGu)
I hate USA. Hate this stupid country of morons and fatguys. I'd better hanged every man in this god-damn country.
Posted by: Octavian at January 02, 2007 04:56 PM (1KTGu)
Posted by: Disgusted at January 02, 2007 05:05 PM (lqltP)
Posted by: Adil at January 02, 2007 05:05 PM (G1bat)
Even on a thread brimming with morons, you stand out. The Vietnamese "military" was a joke. I assume you mean the ARVN army and the Viet Cong. America won every single battle it fought. Every. Single. One. After the disastrous (for them,) Tet Offensive, the Viet Cong were annihillated, and never proved a threat again. 1 million of them were killed--the entire attacking force. Even after America was forced to withdraw by your leftard forebears, the North Vietnamese coudln't take the South. It wasn't until the Democrats (natch,) in Congress withdrew the promised funds and weaponry to the South that the Soviet armed north was able to conquer it. The commies then proceeded to murder 3 million people, mostly civilians, and disposses countless more.
There are no insurgents in Iraq. There is no rebel iraqi army fighting the legitimate government. only terrorists murdering Iraqis who dared to vote for a representative governmen, or work as teachers, doctors, or policemen.
And the AIPAC slander comes out! Dem Jooos are responsible for all the wars in the world! The oldest gutter slander on Earth, and retards like you still spew it with pride. What a stupid f**king bitch you are.
Please provide some proof that the Chinese army isn't a joke. That should be good for a laugh, even amongst the hilariously stupid comments flying around here. It's hard to believe another human being can be as stupid as you are. Leftopithecines are just as dumb as islamopithecines.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 05:08 PM (abVz3)
I am sorry Carlitos, I didnt know you were so sensitive about your nationality, I didnt realized your ancestry goes back so far in time, that explains it. The only thing that it is strange why to bother keeping the culture, ( like your name ), if you are not latin american anylonger?. Anyway, I see it is pointless talking about it since you are "truly" american. By the way, yes, I do live under american boots, like the rest of the world does, but I am not indian, actually my mother and father are both born in Spain, but I was born in Latin America, and have travel through our continent, USA, and Europe, so I have a very much first hand idea of what I am talking about.
By the way, WE ARE ALL AMERICANS, SINCE WE SHARE THE SAME CONTINENT, YOU ARE UNITED STATESERS, thats a different thing.
On the other hand, not for you anymore Carlos, Jeff guy is right , THIS WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE WITHOUT THE DEGENERATION THAT HOMOSEXUALITY BRINGS.
Posted by: EL MONJE at January 02, 2007 05:33 PM (lMJrx)
It wasn't the CIA that faked Saddam's death, it was BUSH (Bush Undercover Spy Headquarters.) They're monitoring your e-mails and comments right now! They know you spank it to the porn sites, and they're coming to get you. If they catch you, you'll have to live out your days in a safe house eating peanut butter and banana sandwiches with Saddam, Elvis and Jimmy hoffa.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 05:53 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: concerned at January 02, 2007 06:13 PM (0aphf)
Posted by: Asw at January 02, 2007 06:27 PM (TvUJ0)
the world took a giant step back. no justice was served here! how are we any better then this man to let something like that happen?
ill pray to God that ppl like Bush and especially Bush himself will come out of power. the world will remain one f'ed up place until then.
Posted by: tammy at January 02, 2007 06:28 PM (QkmdV)
Posted by: muslim at January 02, 2007 06:30 PM (u0/hV)
Posted by: dunbazz at January 02, 2007 06:34 PM (JJCcq)
there are many religions!
i dont feel that my spot is garunteed by believing in allah solely. open your mind a little perhaps?
Posted by: tammy at January 02, 2007 06:34 PM (QkmdV)
There, I think I've summarised Jeffs contribution.
Oh, by the way, I'm British. So obviously my teeth are at right angles to each other, my arse is full of semen from our inbred royals, I've never won a war without American help and my mum got shagged by a US Marine in the 40's ... hopefully I've saved Jeff having to post his usual reply.
Saddam's gone, but in a few years time another regime that the US/UK/Western 'civilised' world has loaded up with various weapons will decide it wants to go off in a different direction and will bite the hand that armed it.
Or maybe some of us will be gone by then - there's an awful lots of missing nuke elements which I really fear will end up on one of my streets. So, if you follow a religion, pray to it that that doesn't happen as otherwise it won't matter one way or the other to an awful lot of people.
Posted by: UKBoi at January 02, 2007 06:40 PM (pRM2C)
I have friends working for the reconstruction effort. There's a reason you don't hear about violence in the kurdish north and most other areas. The violence is limited mainly to Baghdad and saddam's home town of tikrit. Fallujah used to be the worst, but the Marines turned into a terrorist ghost town.
The government of Iraq pleads for America to stay there until they can handle things themselves quite publicly, and so do the people.
What you see and read in the Establishment Media is a lot different then what you experience first hand. Just read the AP or look at a Reuters photo.
If you think bloggers like Michael Yon are wrong or lying, you're fooling yourself.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 06:41 PM (abVz3)
Maybe try to take peoples opinion in consideration instead being a royal pain in the ass, ignorant, bastard.
Posted by: Kyle at January 02, 2007 06:41 PM (Lxfxh)
Posted by: Jesus at January 02, 2007 06:42 PM (KBZSq)
oh yeah, and to this potato pete guy who's comment was ," enjoy your snuff film perverts"
what can we say potato pete, or is that PP for short, takes one to know one!
Posted by: the sam at January 02, 2007 06:55 PM (Lgn8E)
Your choice. But please read up on Islam. The day of judgement is nearing us. The signs of the day are listed below. one could say these are made up, but keep an eye on the one's listed for the present and future, and spot how many you've recently come across (earthquakes incresing??) or will come across during your remaining life:
Past
1. Splitting of the Moon.
2. Death of the Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace.
3. A form of death which will kill thousands of Muslims. (Understood to refer to the plague of Amwas during the
caliphate of ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab.)
4. A major fighting in Madinah (understood to refer to the battle of al-Harrah during the caliphate of Yazid, 63 AH).
5. The Muslim conquest of Jerusalem.
6. The Muslim conquest of Constantinople.
7. Two large groups of Muslims will fight in war.
8. A war between the Muslims and a reddish people with small eyes, wearing sandals made of hair (understood to refer to
the Mongol Tatar invasion of the Islamic lands.)
9. A peace agreement between the Muslims and non-Muslims from the yellow race (Chinese, Mongols, etc.)
10. Thirty impostors (dajjal) will appear, each thinking he is a prophet.
Present?
11. Naked, destitute, barefoot shepherds will compete in building tall buildings.
12. The slave-woman will give birth to her master or mistress.
13. A trial (fitnah) which will enter every Arab household.
14. Knowledge will be taken away (by the death of people of knowledge), and ignorance will prevail.
15. Wine (intoxicants, alcohol) will be drunk in great quantities.
16. Illegal sexual intercourse will become widespread.
17. Earthquakes will increase.
18. Time will pass more quickly.
19. Tribulations (fitan) will prevail.
20. Bloodshed will increase.
21. A man will pass by the grave of another and wish he was in the latter’s place.
22. Trustworthiness will be lost, i.e. when authority is given to those who do not deserve it.
23. People will gather for prayer, but will be unable to find an imam to lead them.
Future
24. The number of men will decrease, whilst the number of women will increase, until for every man there are 50 women.
25. The Euphrates will reveal a treasure of gold, and many will die fighting over it, each one hoping to be the one who gains
the treasure.
26. The Romans (Europeans) will come to a place called A’maq or Wabiq, and an army of the best people will go forth from Madinah to face them.
27. The Muslim conquest of Rome.
28. The Mahdi (guided one) will appear, and be the Imam of the Muslims.
29. Jesus Christ will descend in Damascus, and pray behind the Mahdi.
30. Jesus will break the cross and kill the swine, i.e. destroy the false christianity.
31. The Antichrist (al-masih al-dajjal, the false christ) will appear, with all his tools of deception, and be an immense trial. He will be followed by 70,000 Jews from Isfahan (present-day Iran).
32. The appearance of Ya’juj and Ma’juj (Gog and Magog), and the associated tribulations.
33. The emergence of the Beast from the Earth, carrying the Staff of Moses and the Seal of Solomon, who will speak to the people, telling them they did not believe with certainty in the Divine Signs.
34. A major war between the Muslims (including Jews and Christians who truly believe in Jesus after his return) led by the Imam Mahdi, and the Jews plus other non-Muslims led by the Antichrist.
35. Jesus will kill the Antichrist at the gate of Ludd (Lod in present-day Israel, site of an airport and a major Israeli military base).
36. A time of great peace and serenity during and after the remaining lifetime of Jesus.
37. Wealth will come so abundant that it will become difficult to find someone to accept charity.
38. Arabia will become a land of gardens and rivers.
39. Society will then decay.
40. The buttocks of the women of the tribe of Daws will again sway in circumambulation (tawaf) around the idol Dhul-Khulsah.
41. A great fire in the Hijaz, seen by the inhabitants of Busra.
42. Three major armies will sink into the earth: one in the east, one in the west, one in Arabia.
43. An Abyssinian leader with thin shins will destroy the Ka’bah.
44. The huge cloud of smoke.
45. The sun will rise from the west (its place of setting).
46. A gentle wind which will take the souls of the believers.
47. There is no-one left on the earth saying, "Allah, Allah" or "There is no god except Allah."
48. Eventually the Day of Judgment is established upon the worst of the people, who copulate like donkeys in public.
49. The blowing in the Trumpet by the Angel Israfil, upon which everyone will faint except as Allah wills.
50. The second blowing in the Trumpet, upon which everyone will be
As death approaches the wicked disbeliever, he is made to feel something of the heat of the Hellfire. This taste of what is to come causes him to plead for a second chance on earth to do the good he knew he should have done. Alas! His pleading will be in vain.
“Until, when death comes to one of them, he says: ‘O my Lord. Send me back to life (on earth) in order that I may do good deeds in the things that I neglected.’ By no means! It is only an utterance that he says. And before them is a barrier (preventing them from returning: the life of the grave) until the Day (of Resurrection) they are ressurected.†(Quran 23:99-100)
Divine wrath and punishment is conveyed to the wicked soul by hideously ugly, dark angels who sit far away from it:
“Receive glad tidings of boiling water, wound discharge, and multiple, similar torments.†(Ibn Majah, Ibn Katheer)
The disbelieving soul will not look forward to meeting its Lord God, as the Prophet explained:
“When the time of the death of a disbeliever approaches, he receives the evil news of God’s torment and His Requital, whereupon nothing is more hateful to him than what is before him. Therefore, he hates the meeting with God, and God too, hates the meeting with him.†(Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
The Prophet also said:
“Whoever loves to meet God, God loves to meet him, and whoever hates to meet God, God hates to meet him.†(Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
The Angel of Death sits at the head of the disbeliever in his grave and says: “Wicked soul, come out to the displeasure of Allah†as he snatches the soul out of the body.
“And if you could but see when the wrongdoers are in the overwhelming pangs of death while the angels extend their hands, saying, ‘Discharge your souls! Today you will be awarded the punishment of extreme humiliation for what you used to say against God other than the truth, and that you were, toward His verses, being arrogant.†(Quran 6:93)
“And if you could not see when the angels take the souls of those who disbelieved… striking their faces and their backs and saying, ‘Taste the punishment of the Blazing Fire.’†(Quran 8:50)
The evil soul leaves the body with great difficulty, drawn out by the angels as a thronged skewer is dragged through wet wool.[1] The Angel of Death then seizes the soul and puts it in a sack woven from hair which gives off a putrid stench, as foul and offensive as the most foul-smelling rotting corpse found on earth. The angels then take the soul up past another company of angels who inquire: “Who is this wicked soul?†to which they reply: “So and so, the son of so and so?†- using the very worst of names that he was ever called during his time on earth. Then, when he is brought to the lowest heaven, a request is made that its gate be opened for him, but the request is denied. Whilst the Prophet was describing these events, when he reached this point, he recited:
“The gates of heaven will not be opened for them and they will not enter paradise until a camel can pass through the eye of a needle.†(Quran 7:40)
God will say: “Record his book in Sijjeen in the lowest earth.â€
…and his soul is cast down. At this juncture, the Prophet, may God praise him, recited:
“He who assigns partners to Allah is as if he had fallen down from heaven and been snatched up by the birds, or made to fall by the wind in a place far distant.†(Quran 31:22)
The wicked soul is then restored to its body and the two fearsome, dread-inspiring angels, Munkar and Nakeer, come to it for its interrogation. After making him sit up, they ask:
Munkar and Nakeer: “Who is your Lord?â€
Disbelieving soul: “Alas, alas, I do not know.â€
Munkar and Nakeer: “What is your religion?â€
Believing soul: “Alas, alas, I do not know.â€
Munkar and Nakeer: “What do you say about this man (Muhammad) sent to you?â€
Believing soul: “Alas, alas I do not know.â€
Having failed his test, the disbeliever’s head will be struck with an iron hammer with a force so violent that it would crumble a mountain. The cry will be heard from heaven: “He has lied, so spread out carpets of Hell for him, and open for him a portal into Hell.â€[2] The floor of his grave is thus set alight with some of Hell’s fierce fire, and his grave is made narrow and constricted to the extent that his ribs become intertwined as his body is crushed.[3] Then, an incredibly ugly being, wearing ugly garments and giving off a foul and offensive odor comes to the disbelieving soul and says: “Be grieved with what displeases you, for this is your day which you have been promised.†The disbeliever will ask: “Who are you, with your face so ugly and bringing evil?†The ugly one will reply: “l am your wicked deeds!†The disbeliever is then made to taste bitter remorse as he is shown what would have been his abode in Paradise - had he lived a righteous life - before a portal is opened for him every morning and evening showing him his actual home in Hell.[4] Allah mentions in His Book how the wicked people of Pharaoh are, at this very moment, suffering from such an exposure to Hell from within their graves:
“The Fire: they are exposed to it, morning and afternoon, and on the Day when the Hour will be established (it will be said to the angels): ‘(Now) cause Pharaoh’s people to enter the severest torment!’†(Quran 40:46)
Overcome with fear and loathing, anxiety and despair, the disbeliever in his grave will keep asking: “My Lord, do not bring the last hour. Do not bring the last hour.â€
The Companion, Zaid b. Thabit, narrated how, when the Prophet Muhammad and his Companions were once passing some graves of polytheists, the Prophet’s horse bolted and almost unseated him. The Prophet, may God praise him, then said:
“These people are being tortured in their graves, and were it not that you would stop burying your dead, I would ask God to let you hear the punishment in the grave which I (and this horse) can hear.†(Saheeh Muslim)
Posted by: muslim at January 02, 2007 07:01 PM (u0/hV)
you must be living sheltered live over there in Nebraska.It must be those tall corn stalk with the big husks that blocking your vision to the point you are blind and just dumb.You are only capable of using fowl and inappropriate language.
Are public schools that bad up in Nebraska or are you just a drop out. Are you not capable of recognizing that this is a forum to post opinions and comments about Saddam and the execution. Instead, you are using this forum to spew your hatred and dislike toward muslims and arabs in general.
Look,for once, in a mirror to see what I'm talking about and get your head around those big husks, you might be able to see sunlight.
Posted by: magic at January 02, 2007 07:13 PM (fyS1Y)
Posted by: Lord Lagaan at January 02, 2007 07:14 PM (r54vp)
Posted by: Arian Mohamed at January 02, 2007 07:31 PM (xIdvJ)
p.s. Do all of you feel safer now?
Posted by: Hater of all at January 02, 2007 07:35 PM (AK7S6)
Posted by: THE ENFORCER at January 02, 2007 07:36 PM (+ys3o)
Posted by: James Edward Wilson at January 02, 2007 07:44 PM (D2oxm)
Your defense of Leviticus resounds as the biggest pile of whore shit on this page. However, it stands out as your best argument set forth yet, which is, ummm...making my balls itch. So, I'll say a few words on that - not my balls you sick slut, on your comments!
Jeff wrote:
"The book of Leviticus did not order the ancient and extinct tribe of Leviticus or any other Hebrew tribe to kill people. It described tribal life, which was mainly governed by oral law. It’s a moot point because the 12 ancient tribes of Israel are extinct, they did not force their laws or religion on outsiders, and there is no Christian or Jewish practice of murder homos or anybody else today."
Ok, that was impressive, Jeff. Good boy! Hmmm...I think that this part shows off Jeff's genius: "It’s a moot point because the 12 ancient tribes of Israel are extinct." Ha ha ha! Dude! I can't fucking type right now! Ha ha ha!
Ok. I am back! Miss me, you naughty slut? So, Jeff, you Leviticus hermeneutician, moot point, eh? So, is democracy a moot point, too, because the sub-cultural formations from which its founding theorists descend are extinct? Well, no, but I suspect that you believe that logic and sound argument went extinct 2000 years ago. Ha ha ha! You slut!
When that preacher Fred Phelps (Wyoming) showed up at Matthew Shepard's funeral with a sign that read "GOD SAYS KILL FAGS," do you know what part of the bible he quoted? Jeff, you chemical vagina, you've got a lot of work ahead of you! Ha ha ha! Oh, one more thing: Christianity is what Christians do. Judaism is what Jews do. Likewise, Communism is what commies did. It's senseless to try to say "Well, mommy says the great book has been misinterpreted." Put on your diapers, Jeff, and don't be ashamed to jack-off to your neighbor’s barking Chiwawa – it's ok... MOOT! Ha ha ha!
Posted by: white at January 02, 2007 07:54 PM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Howard at January 02, 2007 08:07 PM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: sakra at January 02, 2007 08:16 PM (LunWA)
Posted by: Matt at January 02, 2007 08:17 PM (isM9K)
After reading your unhinged attacks, I regret witholding the abuse and swearing. Here's some abuse, just so you don't feel slighted.
Q: What's the difference between an Irish wedding and an Irish wake?
A: One less drunk.
*
Q: What's an Irish 7 course dinner?
A: A six pack and a potato.
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Did you hear aboy the IRA bomber who tried to blow up a car? He burned his lips on the exhaust pipe.
*
Q: How do you tell the difference between a Mick and a monkey?
A: Smell their breath.
Now that that's out of the way, you cant expect me to take a comparison to White Trash seriously. Besides, the guy isn't really White, he's an anti-White racist.
"You are the very embodiment of the stereotypical ignorant yank that the rest of the world despises so much."
Actually, your comment is stereotypical of anti-American remarks. Inaccurate, obnoxious, and without merit. There is no valid reason for despising Americans, and anyone who does should be ashamed of themselves. Those who aren't ashamed, are shameless bigots and ignorant assholes. Envy isn't pretty, and it says more about the people who practice it than the people its directed at. I know you apologized for the redneck remarks, but that Anti-American envy is always simmering under the surface, isn't it? I've lived and worked with Brits and Irish, so I'm used to your misconceptions. They're all false, and all based on ignorance. It's a shame the Irish and Scots follow the English lead when it comes to something so despicable. (I've seen British tv too. What a cesspool of anti-American bigotry and stupidity. The BBC is worse than Al Jazeera. The real shit-holes of the world get a free pass, of course.)
"Someone else here has suggested that you are representative of mainstream American opinion.
God help us all if that is true. Your country would then be as much of a threat to the rest of us as the muslim terrorists are."
Like I mentioned before, I cant take claims that Americans are as big a threat as the koranimals seriously. Americans don't saw heads off on video, murder Jewish children in front of their families, blow up subways, or fly planes into buildings. Thanks for proving my point.
"Re-elect Bill Clinton. Your country might be saved if you do."
Carlos said it, not me. Clinton is the reason the jihadis thought America was weak. Bin Loser cited the cut n' run cowardice Clinton exhibited in Somalia as the reason he believed America was a "paper tiger." Well, he's cowering in a cave or dead because of his poor judgement, but the damage is done. Bubba also gutted our military, gave China critical missile technology to use against us, bombed Yugoslavia in service of Al Qaeda and the other terrorist separatists, and committed crime after crime. The Euros and the Third World loved him of course, because he weakened America and apologized for imagined crimes to every shit-stain country with a phony grievance.
If his harpy wife gets elected President, she will be even worse. She'll usher in the apocalypse, to the cheers of our enemies--which includes most of Eurabia, despite its ostensible ally status. Savvy Americans trust Eastern European countries more than most of the effete western ones. Countries like Poland remember what it's like to live under real imperialists, and they recognize America for what it is--the champion of the free world. If Britain ever decides to part ways, it will be to it's detriment, and not just for economic reasons. It will be spiritually and morally adrift.
"I think you have found a soul mate in el_mujahid_fayze.
Same mentality, you just happen to sit on opposite sides of the fence."
Do you see the hypocrisy in that statement, and the projection? Blind, stinking, irrational hatred of Americans and Jews is just a tad more obscene than hating terrorist scum.
"A lot of the ammunition (pardon the pun) that the muslim world uses against the west is propoganda developed from mistakes in US foreign policy."
Bullshit. None of their criticisms against American foreign policy are consistent, factual, or legitimate. It's not the mistakes they hate, because all of our mistakes benefit them. There is no excuse for terrorism. If we wipe them off the face of the Earth, they have nobody but themselves to blame.
"I am not alone in thinking that America wants to impose its will on the rest of the world in a simlar, but less extreme, way as the muslims do."
Thinking something doesn't make it so. The Chinese think drinking human urine is salubrious. Please list any countries forced to pay tribute to America, or countries that we have colonized. What you can name are hundreds of freeloading countries that benefit from our cash largess, and others that hide behind our military--like Europe did throughout the Cold War--while we work our asses off to foot the bill. (Something that isn't going to go on indefinitely.) Like I wrote before, America simply outperforms every other country. Don't expect us to apologize for it. The Old World has had thousands of years to get its act together. We're only a couple of hundred years old, and yet we've managed to eclipse the rest of the world utterly. We didn't get this way by being lazy, warlike, or imperialistic. We did it internally.
"Leaving the US and muslim worlds aside for the moment you will find very few people (including me) who disagree that Saddam was a monster.
Howevr you will find a great number of people that are confused as to the motives of the coalition for invading Iraq. Yes it is a given that Saddam need to be removed, it should have been done the first time around but there are obvious benifits for the west from the reserves of oil in the country.
If Iraq is left to govern itself and grow rich and its people prosper and have their lives enriched as a result of selling those reserves around the world it would be the best outcome."
You people are confused because you haven't learned to take President Bush at his word. You're all used to leaders who lie out their asses as a matter of policy, so you assume he does too. He stated his reasons for deposing Saddam before, during, and many times after the war. You people just refused to listen. You should try listening to what the man says, instead of what other people say about him.
As far as the oil goes, we obviously aren't taking it, but if we don't hand Iraq a bill for building their country, Bush isn't the man I think he is.
A rich Iraq is not a good outcome, but a prosperous Iraq that doesn't seek WMD, attack its nieghbors and foster terrorism is.
"Some people however are suspicious as to America and the coalitions motives - are they there in order to to be able to claim the lions share of that oil? Only time will tell."
Again with the oil. America has done the Lion's share of the work and the dying. If we hand Iraq a bill, it damn well better be for the lion's share of any reimbursement Iraq dispenses. We could have kept the oil fields if that was what we wanted. Saddam seized thenm from Western conglomerates, after all.
"I personally think that the next real world confict will arise from the battle to control the dwindling oil resources and China as it develops and needs ever greater volumes of the stuff will be right in the middle of it.
If it hasnt started already that is."
China is a joke. It has no oil of its own, which is why it's making a doomed play for Russia's Siberian fields. Not that they have the skill to tap it even if they were given the chance. Not even the Canadians can extract the vast reserves in their tundra profitably, and Canada is a competent country, except for its steady decline into bankrupt socialism. More than 90% of the Chinese cant afford to buy shoes. They sure as hell aren't going to be buying the world's oil. They cant seize it, either, because their military is likewise a joke.
Anti-Americanism is a mental disorder. Healthy people admire high achievers--they don't envy them. It's just not natural. It's like plain or ugly Western women who hate pretty women. It's just weird, and it doesn't happen in most of the world. Frankly, I look at the type of people who hate me for being American, and feel nothing but contempt.
Do you really want to be part of that crowd? Besides, A huge proportion of Americans are Irish. People actually like them over here. Can you say that about England or Scotland? France or Germany? Spain or Italy? I don't think so.
As far as the islamopithecines go, they hate everybody, including themselves. They are the scum of the Earth. Nobody else even comes close.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 08:21 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: jack at January 02, 2007 08:24 PM (sUJni)
Your "martyr" comments were, umm...shall we say, less-than-coherent? Hmmm...you make this board air pretty fuggy!
"...just monsters that can no longer harm anybody."
Ha ha ha!!! Right on, Jeff! Big bad monsters with hairy cocks! Ha ha ha! Moooooot! Sounds like a Disney theme.
Are you feeling like a martyr, Jeff? Did you shit your panties last night while copying phrases out of the AIPAC manual?
Posted by: white at January 02, 2007 08:35 PM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: M Cannon at January 02, 2007 08:44 PM (K6emJ)
Posted by: vetza at January 02, 2007 08:45 PM (+ADdv)
Posted by: ka-sandra at January 02, 2007 08:49 PM (AdHqV)
Posted by: denise at January 02, 2007 08:52 PM (tm56o)
Till we meet again Osama I'll be ready with more fire power this time, even if I have to pay for it out of my own pocket.
"YOUR ASS IS MINE BITCH"
Posted by: jim bo at January 02, 2007 08:52 PM (8RI8F)
Posted by: denise at January 02, 2007 08:52 PM (tm56o)
Till we meet again Osama I'll be ready with more fire power this time, even if I have to pay for it out of my own pocket.
"YOUR ASS IS MINE BITCH"
Posted by: jim bo at January 02, 2007 08:53 PM (8RI8F)
Posted by: vetza at January 02, 2007 08:54 PM (+ADdv)
Till we meet again Osama I'll be ready with more fire power this time, even if I have to pay for it out of my own pocket.
"YOUR ASS IS MINE BITCH"
Posted by: jim bo at January 02, 2007 08:54 PM (8RI8F)
Seriously... may God bless you.
Tom
Posted by: Tom at January 02, 2007 08:56 PM (IIVlu)
Spare us the Bush lied, people died, bullshit. If you can name one thing the President lied about, I'll get a lobotomy, ditch my conscience, and join the P.C. left in it's self loathing jihad against America.
Good luck with that.
"To sit here and mock religions and races makes you exactly the opposite of who you claim to be."
Who do I claim to be, dildo? Feel free to take a trip to one of those wonderful muslime Arab countries. See how long it takes you to end up in one of their head sawing home videos. Arabs are not a separate race, by the way. Spare me your ignorance.
"Read the Quran and find out what Islam is about, and then go beyond that and look how many people in the world are actually muslim. Then compare the percent of "muslim" terrorists to how many there are. Further, open your eyes, there are 6 billion people in this world..You are really not the most important. So while you sit here and mock peoples' suffering, don't question why they hate you."
You really are a raging asshole, aren't you? The islamopithecines are trying to conquer the world through terrorism--the vilest practice in the history of mankind (not that they qualify as men)--and you curse Americans for hating them because of their detestable acts. Saddam was a genocidal monster, but you reserve your twisted hate for Americans. You know what? Suck my ass, you sick animal.
Read the koran? Physician, heal thyself. You obviously don't have the slightest idea what's written therein.
There are a lot of cockroaches and other vermin in the world. Are we supposed to respect them for their numbers? Is that your idea of logic? No wonder the rest of the world lags so far behind. There are roughly 800 million muslims. After 911 the figure touted by the MsM grew to 1 billion overnight. very miraculous. Now we're supposed to believe it's 1.1 billion. Based on what? The word of the muslims--the most outrageous liars on the planet. Idiots like you don't even question these bogus figures. In fact, you revel in them like a pig in slop.
Meanwhile, there are more than two billion Christians in the world, and islame is not the world's fastest growing religion. It has the fastest growth rate, but that isn't hard to accomplish when you start near the bottom. Far more people convert to christianity each day than do islame.
"...there are 6 billion people in this world..You are really not the most important. So while you sit here and mock peoples' suffering, don't question why they hate you."
Saddam is neither suffering nor hating. He's dead. The suffering in the islamopithecine world is self imposed. Nobody forces them to live like stone age proto-hominids.
Besides, America definitely is the most important country in the world, and nobody knows it more than losers like you. Our premiere position in the world is exactly why you envy us so pathetically. If you want to be number one, earn it, lowlife. We aren't holding you back. You aren't going to build yourselves up by tearing others down.
More than 2 billion Christians providing charity, services and fellowship around the world versus 800 million koranimals practicing slavery, mysogyny, homophobia, and poor hygiene. You tell me who's more important.
Any koranimal who shelters, funds, cheerleads, condones, or refuses to denounce terrorism is a terrorist--not just the ones who physically carry out terrorist acts.
There is no defense for terrorism, yet here you are, defending terrorists and cursing America. This video has really brought the world's scum out from under their rocks. You are a deeply revolting excuse for a human being. "Disgusting" describes you perfectly. Please don't ever change your screen name.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 08:58 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: Tom at January 02, 2007 09:00 PM (gWSEY)
Posted by: white at January 02, 2007 09:02 PM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: JIMBO at January 02, 2007 09:04 PM (8RI8F)
"A guy saying above in the comments "Free Iraq and USA"??? After Americans coming to Iraq, 60 people and 2-3 Americans on average die per day in Iraq, and for your kind information USA isn't the safe place any more. Thanks to bush policies... Do not stick your nose in the matters of others... Now Americans says "We're running out of Iraq with our hands covering our butts". Jeff read about Islam before you say anything, Islam NOT MUSLIMS, there's big difference between Islam and Muslims now a days..."
If you animals don't want us sticking our noses into your filthy corner of the world, stop flying planes into our buildings. The only people running in Iraq are the terrorists--and you know it. Even on the run, the Coalition slaughters more than 100 per day. Where is allah the moon deity? Why cant he save you?
I've forgotten more about islame than you'll ever know. How does that make you feel?
Saddam is dead, the mullahs in Iran are next, and Bin loser will never live to be an old man. There's nothing you can do about it except cry.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 09:05 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: Yes at January 02, 2007 09:06 PM (AA/Rk)
Sick people!!! Enjoy your sick pictures. I pray to God I'll never bump into any of those who insult religion because of their ignorance! And whose who enjoy watching executions!
SICK!!
Posted by: Sarah at January 02, 2007 09:11 PM (qmI04)
Guys like you always claim dead koranimals are martyrs. Can you name a single muslim martyr? The Coalition has been killing them by the hundreds of thousands for the last 3 years. Not even the muslims remember who they were. There is no movement built around any dead "martyrs."
There are no martyrs, just monsters that can no longer harm anybody.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 09:12 PM (abVz3)
Jeff, after you change your diapers, look up "ad hominem," and report back like a good girl (Oh, and don't use the AIPAC manual!).
Posted by: white at January 02, 2007 09:20 PM (AA/Rk)
Wondering, would the American (bastards) do the same to the fucking Jews.
Posted by: zacharyirfan at January 02, 2007 09:21 PM (elB1P)
Posted by: Donna at January 02, 2007 09:25 PM (7uHiZ)
As for Sadam's ass...burn in Hell!!!!!
Posted by: mia at January 02, 2007 09:26 PM (HqeYG)
"The death of any living thing should not be celebrated. Hussein was not an angel but look at what has happened to that country after our rush to find WMD. Maybe Bush should have been tried with him for the deaths of our service men and the 300,000 Iraqi killed since we had to go there..."
How many of you mental defectives are going to claim killing a mass murderer was wrong, and calling for the death of President Bush in the same paragraph. Do you have any idea how staggeringly stupid you are? Are you even capable of reason? Even without your raging BDS, I doubt it. Crying over "300,000" terrorists is despicable. Oh, wait. The lying Lancet arrived at that "innocent civilian" figure through the supremely scientific method of knocking on doors and asking Iraqis if they knew anyone who died. Cretin.
Clinton built North Korea's reactors, dumbass, and made similar deals with Iran. So much for blaming Bush, who will doubtlessly remove the mullahs from power before his term ends in 2009. Neither NK nor Iran have nukes yet, by the way. The N. Korean detonation was a dud, and the mullahs don't even have a dud.
Your hero Saddam is dead. Get over it, scumbag.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 09:28 PM (abVz3)
u fuckin idiots think it was worth it... u guys have shit for brains... iraq is 100 times worse now than it ever was under saddam... not to say that he wasn't completely disguisting...
bottom line, saddam WAS at one point powerful and he hated israel... to no surprise, american centiment towards him had to change... anyone remember rumsfeld shaking hands with saddam back in the day... fucking idiots!!, keep letting israel and the second most powerful political lobby in the USA, the Israeli Lobby, influence ur global military strategy and tax dollars...
good work rednecks
Posted by: common sense at January 02, 2007 09:29 PM (IzgrD)
You are day dreaming mother fucker, son of of a bitch. America can try and they will end up back in the bush.
Posted by: zacharyirfan at January 02, 2007 09:31 PM (elB1P)
And with that one statement you expose what an utter fool you are, comparing mere comments on a blog to the deeds of a mass murderer. Behold, Leftards, the moral confusion that abounds in your camp.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 09:34 PM (8e/V4)
Maybe it would've been more appealing if worthless humans weren't incapable of competent camera handling.
Posted by: Cassie. at January 02, 2007 09:35 PM (T2gr7)
Maybe it would've been more appealing if worthless humans weren't incapable of competent camera handling.
Posted by: Cassie. at January 02, 2007 09:35 PM (T2gr7)
Maybe it would've been more appealing if worthless humans weren't incapable of competent camera handling.
Posted by: Cassie. at January 02, 2007 09:36 PM (T2gr7)
"saddam though should have been sentenced to death was unfairly treated especially in trial, a hanging is so primitive!
the world took a giant step back. no justice was served here! how are we any better then this man to let something like that happen?
ill pray to God that ppl like Bush and especially Bush himself will come out of power. the world will remain one f'ed up place until then."
Saddam got a fairer trial than the majority of Americans get here--and nobody here is responsible for killing a million people, or commiting decades worth of atrocities that would have made Stalin and Mao blanch.
The world took a giant step forward, and justice was served to all the people still living who suffered at that animal's hands.
There is no moral equivalency between Saddam's crimes and Americans who had no say in his execution. I'm pretty sure every American who ever lived was better than Saddam, and that certainly includes the President.
I pray that people like you never come to power in this country. We wouldn't last long if they did.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 09:38 PM (abVz3)
Are public schools that bad up in Nebraska or are you just a drop out.
ah, sweet irony -- Quack, Quack.
Posted by: davec at January 02, 2007 09:38 PM (yaQM4)
Alas, no aloha
Loren
Posted by: Loren Mitchell at January 02, 2007 09:41 PM (98Q5O)
Saddam is dead. Get over it. Get off your computer for once and get a life.It seems that you have nothing to do but get on the computer.Do you have a wife, Children, family, or even a boyfriend with whom you can spend some quality time?
You must be a sad and lonely human being. God bless you and have some mercy on you.Peace.
Posted by: magic at January 02, 2007 09:45 PM (fyS1Y)
You am smart. Bush are bad, and him no should kill terists in Irak. Death to Amerikkka!
Saddam kills a million people, and you want Bush's blood. You really are a worm, but I thank you for the laughs.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 09:45 PM (abVz3)
Well, Bush could get oil off the wells by using Saddam's video to provoke ethnic wars...perhaps time will tell how much this sucker could suck..One Saddam Sacrificed and 100s would evolve....remember this
Posted by: Ian at January 02, 2007 09:46 PM (gajac)
Posted by: Cassie. at January 02, 2007 09:51 PM (T2gr7)
But right in our own country, we have people guilty of mass murders around the globe, and we have the KKK and no one gives a rats azz.
So let's be real, we have two justices in the world. God be on your side if you're not on the side of the PERSONS WITH THE BIGGEST GUNS and BIBLES!!!
NATIONALISM LEADS TO FACISM.
AND YES, Israel kills Palestinians all the time. And yes the less powerful Palestinians fight back. I don't agree with either side, but if I had to choose a side to empathize with, it would be the side with NO REAL WEAPONS, living in NAZI like CONCENTRATION CAMPS. BOTH SIDES ARE KILLING INNOCENT CHILDREN, BUT THE SIDE WITH THE REAL POWER (ISRAEL) should begin a real CEASE FIRE.
Our world needs less violence and more love and protection of our children!!!!!
Posted by: FATHER EARTH at January 02, 2007 09:56 PM (jiaJP)
Posted by: Ken at January 02, 2007 10:01 PM (qPlrr)
"arse shit fuck cunt wank piss poo tit bum toss queer islamopithecine koranimal muslime ...
There, I think I've summarised Jeffs contribution."
No, like all the other sickos here crying over Saddam and getting erect over thoughts of Bush being hanged, you've deliberately avoided addressing any of my points. No surprise there, since you obviously don't have the brain wattage or the integrity to do so.
"Oh, by the way, I'm British. So obviously my teeth are at right angles to each other, my arse is full of semen from our inbred royals, I've never won a war without American help and my mum got shagged by a US Marine in the 40's ... hopefully I've saved Jeff having to post his usual reply."
Sorry to hear it. Hypocrites like you can dish it out, but you cant take it.
"Saddam's gone, but in a few years time another regime that the US/UK/Western 'civilised' world has loaded up with various weapons will decide it wants to go off in a different direction and will bite the hand that armed it."
And what regime will that be, pray tell? The Kingdom of Mordor, or do you have a regime based in reality in mind? And what do you mean by another? As pointed out on this thread by Jesusland Carlos, France and Russia armed your hero Saddam. Are scurrilous lies about America your idea of a "contribution?" You even lied about your own country.
"Or maybe some of us will be gone by then - there's an awful lots of missing nuke elements which I really fear will end up on one of my streets. So, if you follow a religion, pray to it that that doesn't happen as otherwise it won't matter one way or the other to an awful lot of people."
Bush tries to stop that very scenario from occurring, and you villify him for it. Now you're whining because it may happen anyway. You cant have it both ways. Do you feel any shame for attacking the civilized world over the death of a genocidal tyrant? Are you capable of honorable emotions at all, or are you limited to snide remarks?
I'm pretty sure I already know the answer.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 10:03 PM (abVz3)
"You know Jeff, You've made alot of referencing to people sucking your dick. It makes me wonder. Maybe you actually are a cruel, pissed off, radically foolish and ignorant republican who just wants some guy to give him a blow job?
Maybe try to take peoples opinion in consideration instead being a royal pain in the ass, ignorant, bastard."
Your entire comment consisted of nothing but ad hominems. Who's the "royal pain in the ass, ignorant bastard," and why are you crying over a dead monster?
Really. You moonbats are entertaining, but you're all much too stupid to hold a conversation.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 10:08 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: jan at January 02, 2007 10:09 PM (o6J6y)
& WAS KILLED BY THE PUNISHMENT HE BELIVED IN .
""JUSTICE PREVAILS ONCE AGAIN""
Posted by: david at January 02, 2007 10:14 PM (2AyqD)
Posted by: jon blagg at January 02, 2007 10:15 PM (MZWAI)
You are day dreaming mother fucker son of a bitch.
Bush the bastardo can try but you all will end up back in the bush as bush whackers.
Posted by: zacharyirfan at January 02, 2007 10:15 PM (elB1P)
It's ben said that the Shiites' have a sensce of resovle now that they have executed saddam. At the expense of the U.S.; taxes, lost U.S. soldiers and moving americans even higher up on the list of most disliked people in world. By the way, where is the resolve for the American families of those who were murdered on 9/11????? Maby some decent, upstanding Iraqi's will find osama and put a noose around his neck. Not a chance, their to busy killing U.S. soldiers every day... the same ones who liberated thier country for them. This is thier gratitude and thanks!!
The execution of saddam is exteremely significant! When is the last time anyone has seen one country invade another, take over and then hang it's leader?? Nothing good could come out of this and probably just pissed a bunch of people off.I think they could just left him to rott in a cell the rest of his life and at least not bring anymore attention to the problem.
But since it did happen, this bulls$%t of not showing the execution on t.v. is just plain stupid. It's as if they have something to hide. The media has no problem showing the attrocities that saddam and his henchmen committed; why should this be any different? If thier going to kill ruthless bastards like saddam put it on a pay-per-view durring half time of the superbowl. All those assholes out there who are always worried about what everyone else watches on TV need to get a life. If you don't like what is being shown, don't watch!! This is what they made remote control for.. to change the channel and to keep your fat asses from leaving your couch and putting down the MOTHER F&*%ING potato chips!!
Posted by: DAN WATTS at January 02, 2007 10:16 PM (kxH+l)
It's ben said that the Shiites' have a sensce of resovle now that they have executed saddam. At the expense of the U.S.; taxes, lost U.S. soldiers and moving americans even higher up on the list of most disliked people in world. By the way, where is the resolve for the American families of those who were murdered on 9/11????? Maby some decent, upstanding Iraqi's will find osama and put a noose around his neck. Not a chance, their to busy killing U.S. soldiers every day... the same ones who liberated thier country for them. This is thier gratitude and thanks!!
The execution of saddam is exteremely significant! When is the last time anyone has seen one country invade another, take over and then hang it's leader?? Nothing good could come out of this and probably just pissed a bunch of people off.I think they could just left him to rott in a cell the rest of his life and at least not bring anymore attention to the problem.
But since it did happen, this bulls$%t of not showing the execution on t.v. is just plain stupid. It's as if they have something to hide. The media has no problem showing the attrocities that saddam and his henchmen committed; why should this be any different? If thier going to kill ruthless bastards like saddam put it on a pay-per-view durring half time of the superbowl. All those assholes out there who are always worried about what everyone else watches on TV need to get a life. If you don't like what is being shown, don't watch!! This is what they made remote control for.. to change the channel and to keep your fat asses from leaving your couch and putting down the MOTHER F&*%ING potato chips!!
Posted by: DAN WATTS at January 02, 2007 10:16 PM (kxH+l)
Posted by: RWjed at January 02, 2007 10:16 PM (7yTDn)
Good points. But, I must add, Israeli power isn't "real power" in the strict sense; it’s American power (but I see your point). They'd be speaking Arabic if it were not for us (Americans).
Israel is pretty divided, too, and the conflict with Palestine is an allegory for their internal divisions. The "external" conflict is about the only thing that unites them. That's because Jewish people do not - as some seem to think - have a singular vision. Just like any group, they hold a lot of contending views and ideas on most issues. Religion doesn't even have uniting power because the different religious factions of Judaism can be as divisive as what we have seen with the Sunni and Shia. Now, the Middle East is a tough neighborhood, so contending ideas come to be viewed as threatening to national sovereignty - at least Likud holds this view. Therefore continued conflict - Trotsky's forever revolution – unites them, at least for the time being. It will destroy them eventually, which is regrettable, but true.
Posted by: white at January 02, 2007 10:19 PM (AA/Rk)
Do you really think anyone is going to bother to read you tedious paste job? No civilized man cares about your stone age mumbo-jumbo. Go rattle some stones and bones at the Moon somewhere else.
I have a prediction for you. Baby Assad in Syria and the mullahs in Iran are going to be deposed before Bush leaves office in 2009. By deposed, I mean killed. What do the goat entrails say about that?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 10:20 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: white at January 02, 2007 10:22 PM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: creation from chaos at January 02, 2007 10:28 PM (gUFV+)
I STAYED UP ALL NIGHT AWAITING THE GOOD NEWS OF HIS DEATH.....SHAME THEY DIDNT CUT HIM UP BIT BY BIT SLOWLY

Posted by: English Princess at January 02, 2007 10:36 PM (hn1xj)
I STAYED UP ALL NIGHT AWAITING THE GOOD NEWS OF HIS DEATH.....SHAME THEY DIDNT CUT HIM UP BIT BY BIT SLOWLY

Posted by: English Princess at January 02, 2007 10:36 PM (hn1xj)
I STAYED UP ALL NIGHT AWAITING THE GOOD NEWS OF HIS DEATH.....SHAME THEY DIDNT CUT HIM UP BIT BY BIT SLOWLY

Posted by: Princess at January 02, 2007 10:37 PM (hn1xj)
Posted by: fergie at January 02, 2007 10:40 PM (bLHYB)
Posted by: creation from chaos at January 02, 2007 10:42 PM (gUFV+)
"hey jeff
you must be living sheltered live over there in Nebraska.It must be those tall corn stalk with the big husks that blocking your vision to the point you are blind and just dumb.You are only capable of using fowl and inappropriate language.
Are public schools that bad up in Nebraska or are you just a drop out. Are you not capable of recognizing that this is a forum to post opinions and comments about Saddam and the execution. Instead, you are using this forum to spew your hatred and dislike toward muslims and arabs in general.
Look,for once, in a mirror to see what I'm talking about and get your head around those big husks, you might be able to see sunlight."
An islamopithecine trying to insult Nebraska? That's too funny. Last time I checked, the wog world was Hell on Earth. The worst day in Nebraska is better than the best day in flea-scratch saudi arabia, camel-pump Syria, or bum-fark egypt. At least we can grow corn. All you losers can grow are rocks.
Please explain how something obscuring my vision could impede my speech. I guess i'm just too "sheltered and uneducated" to figure that one out. Good thing I have a member of the most backwards people on the planet to set me straight.
Feel free to discuss Saddam's well earned execution instead of trying to insult me whenever you're ready, hypocrite. He's dead, your sad, and I'm glad. How's that?
Newsflash: there's a reason America outperforms all other countries, and the islamic countries achieve nothing but extremely bad body odor--and it isn't because Nebraska schools are inferior to the worthless madrassas in your part of the world.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 10:44 PM (abVz3)
He ain't a redneck, that's for sure. Rednecks really like this country, like me! And before becoming an anthropologist, I served in the Marine Corps. I was a Data systems officer (they called us "data dinks"), but I actually spent most of time doing communications stuff (MOS 2802). Jeff couldn't join the military, 'cause he wears diapers and they don't take folks like that.
Posted by: white at January 02, 2007 10:46 PM (AA/Rk)
"Jeff is definitely from Redneck Street, Hill Billy land, Hicksville !!!!"
What do you have against rednecks? Did one steal your girlfriend, or did you get your ass kicked by one? Rednecks are loyal Americans and generally decent people. You cant make that claim. You probably aren't even American. You sound like a chav.
Saddam is dead. Boo hoo, scuzzball.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 10:50 PM (abVz3)
I wish more had the balls to take such a stance.
Posted by: dan at January 02, 2007 10:51 PM (0RcI9)
Ben Franklin would've considered leftists to be traitors of the worst kind. Fifth columnists like you were tarred and feathered in his day, and that's a fact.
Name one civil libery, civil right, or other freedom you've lost since the Patriot Act was enacted. Unless stupididty is outlawed, you have nothing to worry about.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 10:54 PM (abVz3)
I suppose Ted Haggard a fake preacher too. He was a cock-sucking meth user, that's for sure. Go get a book on argumentation. Now, look up "logical fallacies." Report back.
Was Stalin a fake communist? Was Hitler a fake fascist? Is your boner a fake erection? You fucking retard. Nobody is going to fall for your nonsense. Calling Phelps a fake preacher makes him no less fake than the shit coming out of your mouth.
And your retort on Leviticus was predictable - I baited you and you bit not only the bait, you sucked the whole fucking pole too, you sick pervert. Ha ha ha! Moron!
Posted by: white at January 02, 2007 10:58 PM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Laquan Morrison at January 02, 2007 10:58 PM (RuntL)
Let me start by saying that I don't proactively ridicule people of any belief system as long as they don't push it on me, and it is not my intention to offend anyone, but mearly to express my view on your post. I've been reading through this thread for a while now. I was with alot of what you said until this one. Religion has been the scourge of the Earth and the cause of nearly every war. I have read several references to the Middle-east being stuck in the stone age, which I whole-heartedly agree with. I also believe that anyone who buys into any form of hocus pocus bullshit is right there with them. It is truly unfortunate that the majority of people on this planet are so uneducated that they cannot understand the advances that science has put forth in the last century and therefore still attribute our intricate existence to some sky fairy or another. WTF. We might as well be living in caves.
The only problem is that technology has advanced far more quickly than the human mind has evolved.
If people don't get a handle and start using reason and intelligence (ie. think for one minute that you may be wrong about your deity), we are all doomed. Our place here in this universe is way to delicate to blow it over any ancient (and far outdated) belief.
Everyone is an atheist concerning the gods of religions other than their own. The smart ones just take it one god further.
Posted by: NO Religion at January 02, 2007 10:58 PM (pUwHl)
"you freaks. Christ said "Do Not Kill." Period, End of Story, No Fine Print, No Exceptions. You're all so stupid you don't get the joke: you are as barbaric in your hearts as Saddam was. As cruel, as ignorant, as pathetic. A real mensch, like Christ, would forgive even Saddam. But you psychos are all the flip side of the Saddam coin. As long as there are people like you, there will be people like Saddam."
Wrong. Jesus did not say that. Period. Try reading the Bible.
Only an utter moron can equate some wb comments he dislikes to genocide, mass torture, mass rape, and the rest of saddam's atrocities. Either that, or you're mentally unbalanced. Yes, we're responsible for Saddam's crimes. Sane or not, you're definitely an idiot,.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 10:58 PM (abVz3)
In the video, as he swings, he has expression in his eyes...I have never seen expression in the eyes of a dead man... In addition when he dropped the next footage we saw was him swinging. If you drop from that height you will bounce until equilibrium slows you to a stand still. Where was the bounce...the multiple impact to break the neck and stop the nerve signal from reaching his brain and telling him to breathe. Interesting footage...
Posted by: Dave at January 02, 2007 10:58 PM (2E7pY)
Posted by: white at January 02, 2007 11:05 PM (AA/Rk)
George Bush started something, and he wants to finish it. He's no quiter like those Democrats.
You know what's gonna happen if a Democrat wins the 2008 election? There gonna pull our boys out of there as quick as they can, and the Terrorists are gonna think they won. They will just get more confedant in themselfs for beating america, and attack more often.
I don't know what the big fuss is over bringing them home.
Who chose to join the army in the first place?
The soldiers did!
Who knows that they might not make it home?
The soldiers do!
Why have a lot of soldiers not come home from the middle east?
Because they died fighting for there country. They have free will, and they decided to put there life on the line. There is no draft!(yet)
George Bush is not forcing them against there will.
Posted by: Archy at January 02, 2007 11:10 PM (BNgRY)
Posted by: grugebearer at January 02, 2007 11:16 PM (FB41L)
I'm all about compromise :-)
Posted by: sardo at January 02, 2007 11:17 PM (qlZuT)
Posted by: usa 316 at January 02, 2007 11:19 PM (Hs9jI)
Jeff -
I am proudly anti-Semitic, so calling me one doesn't do much good. And arabs are semites, so no, I am not crying about Saddam's death. I'd have killed him along with a lot of others - including you.
Posted by: Yes at January 02, 2007 11:20 PM (AA/Rk)
thank you for pointing out that the Commandments and the Gospels are meant to be a guide for Christians. I'm presuming you are a christian, who seems to have forgotten the most important guiding priciple of the Commandments: Thou shall not kill. The hate you have spewed in your messages above is also un-christian. Jeff, ask God to forgive you, for you may end up in the same place as Saddam.
Posted by: Philip at January 02, 2007 11:28 PM (E80+l)
A lot of activity! Well, I just read the news, and it looks like I was right: the hanging is starting to backfire. Just about everyone around the world is pissed - even those for whom the death penatly is a way of expressing devotion to Christ.
Posted by: Pink Flower at January 02, 2007 11:30 PM (AA/Rk)
I know you're a moron, but do you have any point to make at all? That fake preacher Fred Phelps used Leviticus to try and justify his sick rantings. So what? Are you really shit for brains stupid enough to believe killing fags like you is a Christian doctrine?
The Ancient priestly tribe of Leviticus didn't kill homosexuals whenever they found them, and any loose rules governing ancient hebrew tribal life don't apply to modern Christians, you unmitigated cretin. In case you didn't notice, we don't live in tents, tend goats, arrange marriages and own slaves.
Christians use the Ten commandments and the Gospels to guide their lives, not Leviticus. You brain dead lefties always quote Leviticus because you're too ignorant to understand a religion you don't belong to, and you foolishly think you can use Leviticus to smear Christianity as a violent religion. Geeks like you just regurgitate the empty arguments written by other leftists who are equally ignorant.
The Bible was compiled for a reason, and that reason wasn't because whatever a Christian does is Christianity. What kind of nonsense is that? The Commandments and the Gospels are meant to guide people, not the other way around, nit-wit.
If you cant understand what I wrote about martyrs, it's because you're amazingly stupid. I can appreciate a good insult, or some imaginative profanity, but you aren't even capable of that. Your comments are like mongoloid rap for 8 year olds. As fun as it is to stomp on left-wing imbeciles (is there any other kind?) I'm not going to bother with you any more. You're just too stupid, too bizzarre, too gay, and too tedious. Try not to fall off the short bus, retard.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 11:33 PM (abVz3)
Just how stupid can a human being be? I'm ashamed just to be a menber of the same species as you mouth breathers.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 02, 2007 11:37 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: white at January 02, 2007 11:39 PM (AA/Rk)
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Posted by: white at January 02, 2007 11:49 PM (AA/Rk)
Leftards believe Bush brought down the towers-- fior "oil"-- but they also claim to want Osama's head on a stick, proving once again their uncanny ability to hold two mutually opposing ideas in their head at once. These are the braniac Liberals we keep hearing about.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 11:53 PM (8e/V4)
Your satisfaction in his death makes you no better than him.. It was done for punishment and peace.. A casualty of war. What about our soldiers that have died, they have killed, yet you pass no judgement on them, and yes many of them did kill innocents despite what CNN tells you, Its war.. Should they have killed Saddam? Yeah..But now he's square with the house. What does it matter how he died the result is the same.
Now he faces his true judgement.. Saddam I believe was an evil man, Bush I believe is an evil man. But what is to become of either of them is not my call..nor is it yours.. With understanding comes respect.. You all have your beliefs, and me being a Christian I know that all of you who are condemning Saddam and cursing his name are Christian or have Christian background as well.. It's in how quickly your ready to hang or curse or Damn someone.. Christ would be thrilled to see what has become of the people that carry his name,I won't judge any of you, its not my place, we all sin, as Saddam has, he too rejoiced in the death of others. So watch your character and don't let it slip because of this evil man.. Hold true to who you are..
So now, I go and watch Southpark I think it's the episode where Saddam gets ass raped by the devil.. Its one of my favorites..
Posted by: Mark at January 02, 2007 11:54 PM (Tfx9J)
In the leaked video, which could not be independently verified by the AP, one voice called: “Allah, bless those who pray for Muhammad and his descendants. Allah, pray for Muhammad and his descendants and may they bring us their help soon and curse their enemies and back their son Muqtada, Muqtada, Muqtada.â€
Saddam then asked, “Is this manly?â€
A voice responded, “To hell.â€
Another voice called out, “Long live Mohammed Baqir al-Sadr†— a reference to the Dawa Party founder and Shiite cleric who was executed along with his sister by Saddam in 1980.
Posted by: Lisa at January 02, 2007 11:55 PM (QQxm0)
Jews are shit. Very sophisticated argument. Par for the course when it comes to stupid anti-Semites. I'm sure jews everywhere are heartbroken by what you said.
Saddam is dead. Cry, cry, baby.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 03, 2007 12:01 AM (abVz3)
So many people dumbed down by these governments....
We need social order and yes we need leaders.
but not from these crazed materialistic monsters.
Have a fabulous day.. and remember
wherever you go there you are.
ciao
Posted by: mantana at January 03, 2007 12:03 AM (UXCpS)
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 03, 2007 12:05 AM (abVz3)
Posted by: Len at January 03, 2007 12:16 AM (VKyJY)
Sand Ticks like you aren't even worth the price of the bullet it would take to blow you away. No, Americans don't want to kill Jews. We're not Nazis or dune coons, we're human beings.
Your hero saddam was killed by his own people. Just goes to show you: everybody hates rag-heads--even other rag-heads. If you're pissed off about it tough guy, join Al Qaeda and head to iraq.
Pussy.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 03, 2007 12:17 AM (abVz3)
Posted by: everardo at January 03, 2007 12:17 AM (YqZFp)
If the earth is 4.5 billion years old why do we only have something over seven thousand years worth of helium in the atmosphere? Helium is the natural product of radioactive decay and if the earth is billions of years old there should be billions of years worth of helium.
At the rate wich the earth's magnetic field is dying, if the earth is 4.5 billion years old why do we still have a magnetic field? If the earth were billions of years old it would have already cooled to solid rock and there would be no magnetic field.
Why is there still 20,000 puonds per square inch pressure in the oil pools since that pressure could not last for more than 10,000 years? It would have leaked through the permeable cap of rock over the oil pool.
Correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.
Posted by: Archy at January 03, 2007 12:19 AM (Yomls)
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Posted by: rightproud at January 03, 2007 12:34 AM (AA/Rk)
Happy New Year! There are plenty of normal people like us around here, but most of them don't have the patience to deal with nut-jobs, psychos and leftards on this thread. These are some of the sickest comments I've ever seen anywhere.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 03, 2007 12:34 AM (abVz3)
Posted by: rightproud at January 03, 2007 12:41 AM (AA/Rk)
If the earth is 4.5 billion years old why do we only have something over seven thousand years worth of helium in the atmosphere? Helium is the natural product of radioactive decay and if the earth is billions of years old there should be billions of years worth of helium.
At the rate wich the earth's magnetic field is dying, if the earth is 4.5 billion years old why do we still have a magnetic field? If the earth were billions of years old it would have already cooled to solid rock and there would be no magnetic field.
Correct me if you think I'm wrong about all this.
Posted by: Archy at January 03, 2007 12:46 AM (Yomls)
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Posted by: Myron Williams at January 03, 2007 12:58 AM (Y9rkz)
BTW, I don't believe in death sentencing, although Saddam deserved to be punished, I think more appropriately, he should have been shoved in a dirty, poluted, infected, highly unhealthy jailcell until he's either completely forgotten by society, or he withers away into nothing. Killing him like so only glorifies his presence in that area of the world and fuels more conflict, not to mention, it's created a sympathetic stigma since he's branded by a hero by alot of retards.
'It's better to burn out, than it is to rust'. Who in God's/Muhammed's/Allah's/Budah's/Super Friends & Co's earth would give a flying fuck about Saddam in 2020 when he's like 90 years old and there are other radical leaders running around. I'm sure my kids sure as hell won't give a damn about some old saggy murderer. Now Saddam is going to be printed in every early 21st Century history book at tought to hundreds of millions of people like he was some kind of prominant historical figure, ala Hitler.
I don't want to step on any toes, but the lack of logic from people who are supposed to control the mindset of the freeworld is so utterly pathetic sometimes it makes me wonder how the world functions.
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Posted by: Snake at January 03, 2007 01:02 AM (nX1tV)
Posted by: rosa at January 03, 2007 01:03 AM (dbGoL)
Like all anti-religious bigots, you have to delve into the past to slam Christianity as a "violent" religion. As soon as you ignore reality and talk about people and events that are long gone to disparage people and events in the here and now, you've already lost the argument.
Only islam has a tradition of jihad, and only islam is practiced violently. Only islam commands its followers to murder and enslave all non-believers. You can walk into any Church on the planet on any day of the week, and you will not hear the Church's leader exhorting his congregation to commit murder and mayhem. Not so in the world's mosques.
Quite frankly, the past violence that was done in the name of Christianity would have been carried out regardless of what belief system the perpetrators had. The religion didn't twist them to a violent cause, they twisted the religion to a violent cause--and that includes some of the Medieval Popes. If the people who perverted Christ's teachings to justify their violence didn't have religion to use as an excuse, they would have used whatever else was at hand. You know that.
Not only was the Catholic Church the main sponsor of science for about 1000 years, but most of history's greatest scientists were devout Christians. I'm pretty sure Issac Newton didn't live in a cave, and he was the greatest genius known to history. He used science and reason to better understand religion and our place in the cosmos.
Darwin is quite popular among atheists, but he was no atheist himself.
You should read some theology. There's some wonderfully sophisticated stuff out there. I'm not Catholic, but the speech the Pope gave to a divinity school recently was fantastic. It was the one that set the koranimals off, trying to kill people because they thought someone had suggested their religion was violent. Now there's an example of the ugly side of religion. Unfortunately, the ugly side of islam is the only side.
Most Christians know they may be wrong about a higher power. That's why they call it faith. They want to believe, and you shouldn't begrudge them that.
You make the common atheist mistake of thinking Christians are stupid. More than 90% of Americans are Christian. You cant honestly believe they're all stupid. A good theologian could destroy either one of us in argument on any subject within minutes--even if he was deliberately arguing from the wrong side.
I don't hate atheists per se, I just have a problem with atheists who hate religion, and hate the religious. I hope you aren't one of those people. They seem to make up the majority of atheists. It bugs me that some people base their atheism on hatred of religion, like that Michael Newdow asshole. They seem to be deranged, spending an incedible amount of time attacking and attempting to discredit a something they claim they don't even believe in. Of course, Christianity is the main target, because it's America's main religion.
Christians don't prohibit atheists from practicing their faith in nihilism, and atheists shouldn't try to prohibit Christians from practicing their faith in God. Many atheists are like islamopithecines in that respect. Oppression is oppression, even if the oppresser believes he's right.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 03, 2007 01:13 AM (abVz3)
Intentional or unintentional, humor is humor. Learned that in elementary school.
The only thing I haven't figured out is this: your obsession with my blog name. I'd love to hear about it (my dick is in my hand right now). And the only thing that would turn me on more than that is if you turned out to be a skinhead chick with tattoos of German iconography.
Questioning my intelligence is hardly a put down, Jeff. You've got to use your head and come up with something more interesting than that. Humor would help. Any kind of humor. Tell us something about yourself, like how you came to your insane ideas. And please, I have been able to predict your responses almost every time, and it's starting to get a bit boring. I mean, shit dude, work on it. For instance, I messed with this lily chick and she came back with a fucking good one (look at yesterdays posts). Now, I dig that chick even if she has views that I disagree with. And please don't retort with "I don't care whether you dig me...blah blah blau." Just find something interesting or, well, bizarre! MOOT!
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 01:18 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Jason at January 03, 2007 01:20 AM (x+KPn)
The literal translation of "Thou shalt not kill" is actually "Thou shalt not commit murder."
"Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and render unto the Lord what is the Lord's," if I remember correctly.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 03, 2007 01:20 AM (abVz3)
Sure, I agree Saddam's death was justified, but most of you are bringing other things into this message board. For instance, racism/religious discrimination! Where has this gotten you all? Nowhere! It never will. Give it up. Just stop being so cruel to eachother. People are people and most of you need to learn that speaking negativly to/about others will only cause harm. There are crazy murderers in every country in this world!!! It's not just in the east-- or the west for that matter. Wake up and take a good look around you, turn on your television and watch the news. It's sad but it is true. No one is perfect neither you nor I.
Posted by: Kind Harte at January 03, 2007 01:26 AM (KmZn3)
Saddam's well earned execution ruined your whole day, didn't it? No wonder London is now Londonistan. You've become dhimmies.
You don't have islamopithecines gang raping American women over here. You have all that and more. Gang rapes, murders, soaring petty crime, terrorists on street corners screeching death to britain, huge welfare rolls, wog programs on your public TV channels, pig pictures all but outlawed, the Cross of St George hauled off of flagpoles, etc.
Who's fucking stupid?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 03, 2007 01:33 AM (abVz3)
Helium is a very light atom, and some of the helium in the upper atmosphere can reach escape velocity simply via its temperature. Thermal escape of helium alone is not enough to account for its scarcity in the atmosphere, but helium in the atmosphere also gets ionized and follows the earth's magnetic field lines. When ion outflow is considered, the escape of helium from the atmosphere balances its production from radioactive elements (Lie-Svendsen and Rees 1996).
Posted by: SlimBimJim at January 03, 2007 01:34 AM (qtAGQ)
Backfire Hell. The impotent whining coming from the scum of the Earth is beneath notice. You scuzzbuckets can snivel all you want. It ain't gonna do you a damn bit of good. HA, HA, HAH!
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 03, 2007 01:36 AM (abVz3)
"I am proudly anti-Semitic, so calling me one doesn't do much good. And arabs are semites, so no, I am not crying about Saddam's death. I'd have killed him along with a lot of others - including you."
The term "anti-semite" has never been applied to wogs. There is no history of ant-wogism, hard as that is to believe. If ever a group of proto-hominids deserved to be persecuted, it's those lice eaters.
Kill me? Talk is for punks.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 03, 2007 01:41 AM (abVz3)
I am not convinced that you are kind. But anyway, why stop being cruel to each other on this board? We can say shit here that we could never say in face-to-face communication. It's stuff that's on our minds, but stuff we always hold back for obvious reasons. I mean, at my workplace (University), if I said some of the crap I've posted here I'd get fired! So, this is a fun way to express discontent. And don't take all this so seriously. Take that fucking video seriously, 'cause that's fucking sick! And the death penalty is sick. And please don't come back with that "You like Saddam" stuff 'cause that's really starting to get boring. I don't care if someone jacks me up and slams my views, but try to do it in a novel or non-trivial way.
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 01:47 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Kill 'em all at January 03, 2007 01:48 AM (YHvEC)
It cracks me up how capering little buffoons like you fancy yourselves as being clever. You're not even clever enough to write something funny. Not intentionally, anyway. You seem to have a terminal case of mental retardation. The only question is what will kill you first: the retardation, the ass herpes, the AIDS, or blood poisoning from your crappy, homemade, Clay Aiken tattoo.
I'm not surprised you asked about dan's balls. The whitest thing about you is the mouthfuls you get.
And no, I don't care if you're someone I used to know from Riverdale. Fuck, but you're stupid.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 03, 2007 01:53 AM (abVz3)
Posted by: Usman Shah at January 03, 2007 02:16 AM (XVVk6)
believe it or not SADDAM is considered a martyr in the eyes of 1 000 000 000 arab and muslim people, and bush is so lucky cause we are under the hands of some bush's toy and we cannot react..
by the way, we say peace upon Mohamed, but we also say piss upon all American Rubin
an advise for all american: please try to wake up...you are so stupid

Posted by: TOUNSI at January 03, 2007 02:32 AM (uO9Bk)
Saddam's execution was far less painless than any hangings done next door in Iran. Meantime, aHAmeniJihad's regime enjoys continued growth in hangings which are done by "short drop" or "no drop" hangings which are the longest and most painful ways to kill people. Where the fuck are your complaints about that.
Where the fuck are you liberals and Europeasers to complain where there are scores of people dying in Iran for all kinds of non-capital offenses!?
Oh wait, I forgot: the Eurotrash kleptocrats have to get their fill of doing business deals with Iran.
Why the fuck should we care about according dignity to saDamn in his final moments!? By the way, Iranians enjoy public executions all the time and it is not uncommon for the crowds to taunt the condemned (many of whom are innocent).
Sith is happening next door in Iran and you don't want to acknowledge the evil force emanating from there.
Instead, you are looking for ways to trash Bush and blame him for anything that happens.
Posted by: maddaS at January 03, 2007 02:33 AM (43efD)
Posted by: Iven Mulenga at January 03, 2007 02:35 AM (jpy4I)
Posted by: Jennifer at January 03, 2007 02:40 AM (JcyCE)
CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL MY MUSLIM BROTHERTS AND SISTERS AROUND THE WORLD.
TRY TO SHOW UNITY AND FIGHT AGAINST ANOTHER SADDAM "GROGE W BUSH"
HE IS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEVIL ON THE EARTH.
Posted by: SYED KARRAR HUSSAIN RIZVI at January 03, 2007 02:40 AM (VccAG)
but what you ignore is that WE DON4T GIVE A SHIT FOR WHAT DOES AMERICAN THINKS
ha ha ha ha ha ha... heuh
Posted by: TOUNSI at January 03, 2007 02:50 AM (uO9Bk)
Posted by: 50 at January 03, 2007 02:50 AM (fRB2k)
Posted by: dr dickweed at January 03, 2007 02:52 AM (fRB2k)
Posted by: ISAAC at January 03, 2007 02:55 AM (Zfmy0)
The Bush-bashing addiction never ceases to amaze me. I find it intellectually incongruent for you to be happy about saddam's death yet still equate Bush with the devil. Was it not Bush who pushed for Saddam's overthrow?
I guess I'm a crazy and/or stupid American to not understand this apparent contradiction, but it seems that for Muslims to decry America's intervention which led to saddam's demise is like biting the hand that feeds you.
Speaking of the American "hand" feeding Muslims through America's purchase of petroleum from Muslim countries: would you complain if we started to cut back on petroleum consumption because we're starting to buy more hybrid vehicles? Does Islam have a problem with us trying to be less reliant on your oil? Should I worry about my Toyota Prius hybrid being targeted by an improvised roadside bomb?
Posted by: maddaS at January 03, 2007 02:56 AM (43efD)
Posted by: ISAAC at January 03, 2007 02:56 AM (Zfmy0)
Vengence is for the lord? Holy shit! Keep that fucker away from me. But I do agree with your other point: "The punishment for Saddam was life imprisonment with Jeff." Yeeehaw!
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 03:07 AM (AA/Rk)
Bush-loving never ceases to amaze me. My god! I am democrat, but I wouldn't think of defending Johnson after Vietnam!!! Well, you ain't stupid or crazy necessarily, but you sure are a fucking republican!!! However, if you are a skinhead chick with tattoos, send me your number (and keep your god damn mouth shut and cook me dinner!).
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 03:14 AM (AA/Rk)
Miceal (Northern Ireland)
Posted by: john doe at January 03, 2007 03:23 AM (eAepr)
Thanks for you comments. We've all changed our minds now! Did you learn that in your communication class sponsored by the IRA? I've been to Ireland and the Middle East, and frankly, I couldn't see much god damn different - except that in general Arabs are pretty nice people.
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 03:29 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: shona at January 03, 2007 03:32 AM (j7wx/)
Yes, Saddam deserved everything he got, he was a cruel dictator. Filthy Arabs? Has the person concerned (i presume he/she is american) ever lived amongst Arabs or even been outside the usa?
I thought the whole idea of Bush instigating the war was for democracy, tolerance and freedom. Well if this is an example of USA freedom, tolerance and democracy u can keep it thank you. We europeans prefer our own version. As for the twin towers Saddam would not even allow Al Queada into Iraq for the simple reason he looked down on them. Bush, however, is the best recruitment officer Al Queada could have wished for. Also regarding the twin towers looking closer to home for the culprits of that one is well suggested, as a lot of those involved have grave concerns about too. (details too long to put on here but look at the video footage and decide just how many explosions there were on how many floors and why such buildings collapsed as they did so neatly whilst other similar structures hit by planes still stand today etc.) Why did american officials meet Bin Laden only a few months before and why was he treated in an american hospital?
There is a dvd going round the usa and reached europe a few months back called Loose Change made by survivors and rescue teams of 9/11 watch it, it will really make u think.
We also think it astounding that a nation who contributed to the IRA funds so they could kill hundreds of innocent people in ireland and the rest of the uk over numerous years, should suddenly be aware of the how terrorism really feels when u are on the receiving end. Not nice is it?
Come on Americans, wake up to what is really happening, question your leaders, don't just accept everything u are told by them or in the news, you have lost 3000 good men so far in a futile war and for what? We have lost a lot of good men too and are asking ourselves exactly that.
Be the great people u are, but wake up.
Posted by: Concerned at January 03, 2007 03:35 AM (Gjp5U)
Posted by: Akbar at January 03, 2007 03:37 AM (dWhCX)
You rock. And I agree with you!
Now, how the fuck do we convince our fellow Americans of that?
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 03:39 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Gunzafer at January 03, 2007 03:39 AM (dWhCX)
Posted by: steven at January 03, 2007 03:45 AM (j7wx/)
FYI, 11/9 might made 100% by intelligence operation. All of airplanes that hit those targets (WTC twin tower etc.) were guided by fully remote control (GPS,in building implant transmiter,camera etc). All passangers and air crews might be killed by poissonous gas which is implanted in the airplane and triggered out by remote control after take off. All documents and scenarios had been prepared properly to trapped Arab (moslem) people as an 11/9 executor. The aim of this 9/11 project is to support US for oil piping instalation over Afghanistan.
So you guys can imagine that who is the real executor? Killing their own (US) people to make justifiction for aggresion to Afghan.
It's very common in intelligence operation, and you guys never know about the reality ,because to less of knowledge and drinking to much alcohol and to much inhale cocaine.
Stop snob your US Big Bush , he was sick, really sick. You will be loosing many friends, familiy in the war field out of US, only for supporting his private oil business.
US enemies are not only Islam, no matter what is the religion (Russia, Colombia, Venezuela,Japan) as far as that country controvert to US policies then trouble will come to that counttry such as bomb explotion, riots between gov and gov opposition, civil war, military-civil war ,religion war and any kind of disintegration that made by intelligence operation.
Only God our better protector.
Posted by: NOAN at January 03, 2007 03:49 AM (//3d1)
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 03:54 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: Destroyer at January 03, 2007 03:57 AM (/BSo4)
Destroyer:
Buy a history book on the cold war. Read it. Report back, tiger. We make mistakes, and Iraq was one big fucking mistake, but you are delusional.
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 04:00 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: shona at January 03, 2007 04:01 AM (j7wx/)
Hi Shona, I agree with most of that. Except the harsh comments stuff. There are forums for gentle and thoughtful commments, and I am on them and write differently. But did you happen to notice that, at the top of this page, there's a video of man dying? I've been in the military, and seen nasty shit. I can say with 99% confidence that all of those blood thirsty cock-suckers on this board have never seen that, or they would never write in praise of it. I am sure of that. I am a member of several veteran groups.
The video is insane. And such insantity ought not be approached with tranquility. But thanks for the thoughts, they are appreciated.
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 04:09 AM (AA/Rk)
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Posted by: Mickey Mouse at January 03, 2007 04:21 AM (JZJSh)
from what I've been reading here just tells me that most of you are just stupid sheeplike GOYS
Posted by: Who cares at January 03, 2007 04:22 AM (pRJ1d)
Posted by: Lord Lardass at January 03, 2007 04:24 AM (ym/zg)
and if you reply back correcting irrelevant shit, you're a dumbass fag. I know Protestants and Catholics are different. I know Orthodox are different. I know ALL THE SUBTLTIES. SO SAVE YOURSELF THE TIME. And if I sound like im ACCUSING you of shit ignorant people (mind you leaders of your religion in YOUR case) did, and it seems a BIT unfair... LOOK AT WTF YOURE DOING. Blaming ALL of Islam for poor, distraught, manipulated, brainwashed VILLAGERS fighting in the name of "JIHAD"... I seriously cant stand 'Christian' Dumbasses like you. Dont even reply you waste of life hypocrite.
Also, the term FAG is used here very loosely to apply to those idiots who should be burned at the steak as were fags of wood (the original connotation of the word). I'm sorry if I offended any homosexuals, I in no way meant to associate you fine people with the likings of JEFF.
Posted by: TO JEFF, the personification of STUPIDITY at January 03, 2007 04:29 AM (Fydrb)
Hi Mickey, thanks for feeling sorry for us - though not many of us really care that you do. But it's good that you mentioned GB; they've been trying to take the moral high ground lately, but they've been worse all along! Bush is stupid, Blair isn't. So why the fuck didn't he stand up? Because he's a wimp.
We'll never be able to solve the problems of the world? Maybe we shouldn't be trying. Maybe Europe should have taken care of Kosovo. The problem is, they couldn't. Not at all. I was in the military at that time, and European organization was terrible and aimless.
But things change fast in this world. Never know. I admit it looks pretty bad now, but it looked pretty bad after Vietnam too, and Europeans were claiming the end of America at that time - didn't happen.
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 04:31 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: walker at January 03, 2007 04:32 AM (0C6B/)
Posted by: walker at January 03, 2007 04:32 AM (0C6B/)
I am all for Nuke weapons esp for the likes of Iran/NK/Syria and etc. They need a strong deterent to stop the evil USA screwing up their lands.
Will GOd bless America? I don't think so !!!!
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Posted by: SHONA at January 03, 2007 05:00 AM (j7wx/)
Posted by: brendan at January 03, 2007 05:05 AM (j7wx/)
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 05:07 AM (AA/Rk)
Where did Saddams hanging occur - ? Iraq.
Lord Laagan do your stuff ! Imbecile
Posted by: swanton at January 03, 2007 05:12 AM (j7wx/)
disapproval from switzerland
Posted by: phil at January 03, 2007 05:19 AM (GUkSx)
FYI, 11/9 might be made 100% by intelligence operation. All of airplanes that hit those targets (WTC twin tower etc.) were guided by fully remote control (GPS,in building implant transmiter,camera etc). All passangers and air crews might be killed by poissonous gas which is implanted in the airplane and triggered out by remote control after take off. All documents and scenarios had been prepared properly to trapped Arab (moslem) people as an 11/9 executor. The aim of this 9/11 project is to support US for oil piping instalation over Afghanistan.
So you guys can imagine that who is the real executor? Killing their own (US) people to make justifiction for aggresion to Afghan.
It's very common in intelligence operation, and you guys never know about the real because to less of knowledge and drinking to much alcohol and to much inhale cocaine.
Stop snob your US Big Bush , he was sick, really sick. You will be loosing many friends, familiy in the war field out of US, only for supporting his private oil business.
US enemies are not only Islam, no matter what is the religion (Russia, Colombia, Venezuela,Japan) as far as that country controvert to US policies then trouble will come to that counttry such as bomb explotion, riots between gov and gov opposition, civil war, military-civil war and any kind of disintegration that made by intelligence operation. Only God our better protector.
Posted by: Noan at January 03, 2007 05:21 AM (po7+i)
It would nice that you explain us the difference between a court trial and a lynching, and specially why the first one is more moral.
Refering to European and canadian, are you explaning us that the US never supported Saddam ?
During the first Irak war of Bush's family, Saddam wasn't such a bad guy as everybody decided to stop at the border, and to let him do what he wanted on the other side. As long as Koweit oil was safe. Well, you will answer me that at that time nobody knew that Saddam was fabricating some terrible weapons with the help of his friend Bin Laden who had just decided to stop to work for the US.
I shouldn't be ironic. You're right. Irak is much better today.
But you are so enthusiastic. I wonder why you don't go also to risk your life there ? Don't you know that your government has some problem to find new recruits ? you should be a better patriot !
Well, good luck for the next Iran and Syria, once you can escape from the shit you are now. But take care to forget about North korea and China. It will be safer for you.
Sorry for my english, I am vietnamese with a french father, all what you like !
Posted by: the vietcong at January 03, 2007 05:22 AM (LmSa+)
Phil, it would help if you qualify "nationalists." After all, you are living in a nation-state. And "romantic nationalism" - extending from Herder onward - shaped present day Europe. And not all of it is bad.
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 05:23 AM (AA/Rk)
Time goes by... so slowly
Time goes by... so slowly
Time goes by... so slowly
Time goes by... so slowly
Time goes by... so slowly
Every little thing that you say or do
I'm HUNG UP
I'm HUNG UP by you!!!
There you go you time wasters, don't come to us with all the prayers and white trash comments
we all know who satin really is now...
Posted by: alcoholics at January 03, 2007 05:47 AM (+V6Mv)
Posted by: Limborismypotty at January 03, 2007 06:08 AM (jpdJf)
HE DESTROYED AFGHANISTAN, KILLED MANY INNOCENT SOULS AND BLOODY CALLS HIMSELF A PEACE MAKER!!
HE'LL BE HANGED THE SAME WAY!!
AND THEN WE SHALL REJOICE AND CELEBRATE!!
HOPE IT HAPPENS ON A CHRISMAS DAY!!!!!!!
WE HOPE!!!
Posted by: maham at January 03, 2007 06:10 AM (guT/b)
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 06:23 AM (AA/Rk)
long ago Saddam was a friend & ally of the
usa, when Iraq was fighting Iran. Not only
did they supply him with weapons, but they
also trained Bin Laden. It just goes to show that American foreign policy sucks!
Posted by: tony at January 03, 2007 06:28 AM (nPutp)
This Jeff person is stupid, there is no doubt about it, but it is a special kind of stupid. When people who so clearly are not ignorant can so clearly also show they are utterly lacking in intelligence (I know... what exactly do we mean by intelligence? How shall we measure it?)... we are faced with a very rare individual indeed. They provide hours of entertainment! I thought I might enjoy clubbing him a bit, but in fact as this thread has steadily degenerated, it became clear that there would be very little pleasure in satirizing or otherwise making a spectacle of his limitations for the few onboard here who may appreciate it. Perhaps more fun to parade him around a bit, make him perform for us? But that has been done into the ground, sad to say. But to leave such a prize specimen alone entirely? To just forgo the opportunity to potshot at one of internet idiocy's elite?? Grr... its a dilemmea!
Sure, this post lacks virtually any substance whatsoever. Those who get it will get it, those who don't never would. Some of you may sympathize, having had similarly remorseful feelings upon realizing that the dead horse of Jeff-bashing can itself be bashed no more without bringing some shame to the flogger himself. And so I write in shame now. Pity I didn't discover this thread 48 hours ago. =(
Now... along with the chuckles, Jeff raised other emotions inside... i.e. anger and hate. Sure, i hate him for his great success at ruling this board and so dominantly making himself the benchmark and target for all other would-be kings. Like most very stupid people who are also impressivley aggressive (at least in the relative anonymity of an online flame festival), he is practically immune to attack. Nothing can stick because he will respond, almost without fail, in a dismissive sort of way that gives a very authentic looking impression of either superior argumentation (he has displayed some slight skill in argument, but the veneer is all that is needed for success in this forum, and he has REAMS of veneer!) or smashing rhetorical comebacks. Of course the comebacks are almost exclusively limited to vulgarity and bluster, but in sufficient quantity, hot air raises even the biggest balloons.
That is frustrating for someone like me. I feel almost reduced to wanting a physical challenge. Oh, no doubt this "big man" (?) would be satifying to whip, with all his talk of how cheap talk is and bullets and whatnot. I like seeing loud men cry. And since he has immunized himself from verbal fisticuffs on here, maybe that would be the happiest option after all... how about it Jeff? You threaten to infect the west coast with your presence at some point in the future... would you like to be embarrassed by a young man most likely your physical inferior in terms of size, but most assuredly your superior in terms of prowess and sheer martial capability? I am in the San Fernando Valley of California... maybe we could arrange a venue and include some of the participants in this forum who might enjoy seeing you embarrassed both intellectually and physically by a small, young guy? Oh, and so as to save you the standard musings... I am american, white, and well, yes I am gay but that should hardly matter, right? Ah... also athiest, rather contemptful of most religious people I have met, with plenty of exceptions of course (I begin with the same reservations one has toward any believers in ghosts and the supernatural, but plenty of religious folk have proven far saner than their belief systems would suggest). What else... oh, I am a libertarian, politically. Liberal in the tradidtional, lower-case meaning of the word. Have travelled a bit, but at 23, I still intend to do much more.
So how bout it? Will this message even get a response from you? Will you ignore it in hopes of seeming above it all? Doubtful... you seem to be too insecure to leave any personal impugn without some snarling reaction to prove your self worth.
I won't bother looking back to see what you say. Respond personally if you like... my email is blahblizzidy@yahoo.com. My name is Dymitri Karszewski. I would love to make you look stupid before an audience... you are too well insulated here for anyone to make you look worse than you do for yourself.
I am ashamed that you represent America here. Please apologize for your despicable comments. Ha, as if that might ever happen.
Posted by: Dymitri V.K. at January 03, 2007 06:31 AM (dC46K)
Posted by: Teiralinda at January 03, 2007 06:32 AM (aRANT)
Posted by: Teiralinda at January 03, 2007 06:32 AM (aRANT)
We wudn't even be here if not for those brainless shit-headed bastards!
Up Your Fukkin Arses!
Posted by: Sgt Cravers at January 03, 2007 06:33 AM (EQPt6)
He became a part of history.
But giving Him such sentence, those knew that they were trying to write down the last pages in their diary book with His blood. So, let all it be… be destroyed, be burnt in the huge flames of Our Revenge and Retribution – all that they are saving and defending by the cost of stranger lives.
Posted by: ANti@merican at January 03, 2007 06:37 AM (H78HE)
Posted by: hub at January 03, 2007 06:42 AM (unuQu)
Posted by: dave at January 03, 2007 06:47 AM (G/GLR)
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 06:53 AM (AA/Rk)
I say pull out and nuke the entire middle east bfore they do it to us fuck all this bullshit. most muslims are either cazy or fuckin fred flintstone stupid kill them all let god sort out the peacefull ones
Posted by: biker at January 03, 2007 07:06 AM (vXLkL)
I will summarize: Jeff Bargholz, I would love the opportunity to beat your silly ass. Are you game?
I know, I'm juvenile and unworthy.
So, are you game?
You could even stay at my place while you are out here! =)
blahblizzidy@yahoo.com
Dymitri Karszewski.
Posted by: Dymitri V.K. at January 03, 2007 07:09 AM (dC46K)
I suppose you'll be left as one of God's "peaceful ones" Mr. biker boy. Do we all get to ride on your Harley then? Somehow, after reading your essay criticizing Mohammed's intellectual abilities, I am left wondering about yours.
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 07:15 AM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: sysad at January 03, 2007 07:19 AM (J39mW)
Posted by: the man who sold the world at January 03, 2007 07:20 AM (yFzPE)
Posted by: the man who sold the world at January 03, 2007 07:21 AM (yFzPE)
Posted by: jasper at January 03, 2007 07:25 AM (rVPY9)
Posted by: Alberto at January 03, 2007 07:27 AM (UlADb)
Posted by: Alberto at January 03, 2007 07:27 AM (UlADb)
Posted by: de fault at January 03, 2007 07:38 AM (tkTNS)
Go get some common sense before you open your stupid full of shit fucking mouths. And by the way, graduating from High School and traveling out of your fucking city for more than 100 miles is a great start.
Posted by: Not a Fucking Jew at January 03, 2007 07:50 AM (1BoDJ)
Posted by: anwar at January 03, 2007 07:59 AM (4/vIt)
Posted by: harris at January 03, 2007 08:01 AM (4/vIt)
Posted by: Zara at January 03, 2007 08:09 AM (vlQ7p)
Posted by: Soldier at January 03, 2007 08:15 AM (1BoDJ)
Posted by: romain at January 03, 2007 08:20 AM (F3Cge)
Posted by: Gandhi at January 03, 2007 08:21 AM (6I3f4)
Posted by: jeff at January 03, 2007 08:25 AM (F3Cge)
I hope ALLAH WILL FORGIVE WHAT HE DID!!
I always pray for everyone! Good or Bad! They deserve forgiveness. Amin.
The way you judge you will be judge! The arrogant and self-rightous will be judge the same way. SO, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU FELL, SAY AND THINK! It does have consequences!!!!!!!! Beside is not for you to decide anyway.
Y48
Posted by: Yuni at January 03, 2007 08:53 AM (6SQwp)
I hope ALLAH WILL FORGIVE WHAT HE DID!!
I always pray for everyone! Good or Bad! They deserve forgiveness. Amin.
The way you judge you will be judge! The arrogant and self-rightous will be judge the same way. SO, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU FELL, SAY AND THINK! It does have consequences!!!!!!!! Beside is not for you to decide anyway.
Posted by: Yuni at January 03, 2007 08:56 AM (6SQwp)
p.s you death to the USA and the fucking jews the hole world hates you and fuck the pope to you yanky fucks the UK should rull the world agen nothing this bad happend when we oned all you fucks. and to all you yanky fucks rember what u didi to the red indains just as bad as sadam
Posted by: lucien at January 03, 2007 08:56 AM (ZBYAj)
p.s you death to the USA and the fucking jews the hole world hates you and fuck the pope to you yanky fucks the UK should rull the world agen nothing this bad happend when we oned all you fucks. and to all you yanky fucks rember what u didi to the red indains just as bad as sadam
Posted by: lucien at January 03, 2007 08:56 AM (ZBYAj)
p.s death to the USA and the fucking jews the hole world hates you and fuck the pope and to all you yanky fucks rember what u did to the red indains just as bad as sadam and the black people u fucks are much worce
Posted by: lucien at January 03, 2007 08:58 AM (ZBYAj)
Posted by: lucien at January 03, 2007 09:00 AM (ZBYAj)
Posted by: god at January 03, 2007 09:13 AM (ZBYAj)
Who is the murder and who is the victim? Who starts killing others Israeli or Palestinian? who is at home and who is the colonizer? Did the Palestinian people start killing the Israeli just because these ones had visited Palestine as gentle tourists in and before 1948? Just help me to understand your thinking about this story, because that is really the question
Posted by: Zouhair at January 03, 2007 09:16 AM (KkD6t)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 03, 2007 09:16 AM (8e/V4)
Let him go out the same way he killed others, with toxic gas, lots more painfull.
Oh and I agree about the iq relation to bush like/dislike. Only the retards and red necks usually side with Bush. Natural human behaviour to associate with similar people.
Posted by: Dan at January 03, 2007 09:21 AM (pAtcZ)
just glad to see its another paki dead and one less the world has to worry about
Posted by: alcoholics at January 03, 2007 09:23 AM (3suv0)
Posted by: Dan at January 03, 2007 09:28 AM (0RcI9)
Posted by: Dan at January 03, 2007 09:31 AM (pAtcZ)
Peace will never happen......Muslims and Islamics will always hate us and we should just wipe them off the face of the planet. They act like they are better than us, but they arent as smart as us, they aren't as advanced as us, they do not worship live as much as us, and they arent as smart on religion as us.
Any dumb fuck who will give up the chance to fuck pussy on earth to get virgins in the afterlife deserves to be caged up next to the monkeys in the zoo.
We have a problem with every single muslim in the world.......kill them all......before they kill us. I know it may not be a solution that we both can live with........but if I had a choice and it was either going to be them or us......I only wish more americans would wake up and get back on our own side.
Posted by: MWGFL at January 03, 2007 09:34 AM (ACH4q)
Posted by: alcoholics at January 03, 2007 09:34 AM (3suv0)
Peace will never happen......Muslims and Islamics will always hate us and we should just wipe them off the face of the planet. They act like they are better than us, but they arent as smart as us, they aren't as advanced as us, they do not worship live as much as us, and they arent as smart on religion as us.
Any dumb fuck who will give up the chance to fuck pussy on earth to get virgins in the afterlife deserves to be caged up next to the monkeys in the zoo.
We have a problem with every single muslim in the world.......kill them all......before they kill us. I know it may not be a solution that we both can live with........but if I had a choice and it was either going to be them or us......I only wish more americans would wake up and get back on our own side.
Posted by: MWGFL at January 03, 2007 09:34 AM (ACH4q)
Peace will never happen......Muslims and Islamics will always hate us and we should just wipe them off the face of the planet. They act like they are better than us, but they arent as smart as us, they aren't as advanced as us, they do not worship live as much as us, and they arent as smart on religion as us.
Any dumb fuck who will give up the chance to fuck pussy on earth to get virgins in the afterlife deserves to be caged up next to the monkeys in the zoo.
We have a problem with every single muslim in the world.......kill them all......before they kill us. I know it may not be a solution that we both can live with........but if I had a choice and it was either going to be them or us......I only wish more americans would wake up and get back on our own side.
Posted by: MWGFL at January 03, 2007 09:34 AM (ACH4q)
Posted by: La2to w 3am bi Liffo at January 03, 2007 09:45 AM (FiDHB)
I hope the Devil gives it to him up the ass...
Posted by: batty at January 03, 2007 09:46 AM (y0VbY)
I hope the Devil gives it to him up the ass...
Posted by: batty at January 03, 2007 09:46 AM (y0VbY)
I hope the Devil gives it to him up the ass...
Posted by: batty at January 03, 2007 09:47 AM (y0VbY)
Posted by: Greyrooster at January 03, 2007 09:52 AM (cJw/p)
Posted by: Greyrooster at January 03, 2007 09:53 AM (cJw/p)
Posted by: Jonny Chingas at January 03, 2007 09:58 AM (P2udu)
Posted by: Jonny Chingas at January 03, 2007 09:58 AM (P2udu)
Posted by: Jonny Chingas at January 03, 2007 09:58 AM (P2udu)
Posted by: La2to w 3am bi Liffo at January 03, 2007 09:59 AM (FiDHB)
Posted by: La2to w 3am bi Liffo at January 03, 2007 10:02 AM (FiDHB)
Posted by: Meg at January 03, 2007 10:05 AM (Yo+Jy)
Posted by: Jax at January 03, 2007 10:13 AM (wIw2p)
Posted by: Jax at January 03, 2007 10:13 AM (wIw2p)
Posted by: Cpt.Bla at January 03, 2007 10:17 AM (DAx5v)
1. Let the families of those he killed have at him.
2. Beheading with a dull deer antler.
3. Put an inflatable raft up his ass and inflate it.
4. Make him drink Draino
5. Draino Enema
6. Slowly lower into a vat of sulfuric acid.
7. cut his balls off and let him bleed out.
8. Cover him in Honey and tie him to an ant hill.
9. Tie him to a humvee and ripping through downtown bagdad
10. Stoning.
Posted by: Jax at January 03, 2007 10:19 AM (wIw2p)
Posted by: tyler at January 03, 2007 10:22 AM (bGL62)
Coming from a so called Christian Nation and where it is said vengence is the lords and treat others as you would have them treat you, I hope you lot lead blameless lives.
Posted by: Tony at January 03, 2007 10:23 AM (kQq0i)
Q: Why are all the streets in france lined with trees.
A: Germans love to march in the shade.
Fuck all left wign pussies!!
Posted by: jax at January 03, 2007 10:24 AM (wIw2p)
Posted by: tyler bailey at January 03, 2007 10:27 AM (bGL62)
Repeat after me: Hi my name is tyler and i'm an alcoholic
Posted by: jax at January 03, 2007 10:32 AM (wIw2p)
Posted by: jax at January 03, 2007 10:33 AM (wIw2p)
Posted by: jax at January 03, 2007 10:34 AM (wIw2p)
Posted by: jax at January 03, 2007 10:38 AM (wIw2p)
Posted by: noor at January 03, 2007 10:40 AM (FDVTv)
Posted by: scott at January 03, 2007 10:40 AM (eNVVr)
Posted by: preeth at January 03, 2007 10:51 AM (dv8PS)
Posted by: BirdMan at January 03, 2007 10:54 AM (PDC5w)
Posted by: Republican at January 03, 2007 10:55 AM (EJxi2)
Posted by: Republican at January 03, 2007 10:56 AM (EJxi2)
Posted by: nelloti(romania) at January 03, 2007 10:58 AM (Ul5un)
Posted by: republican at January 03, 2007 11:02 AM (EJxi2)
Posted by: republican at January 03, 2007 11:11 AM (EJxi2)
He will reap what he has sown and will burn in hell for eternity. He will look up from the pits of hell wishing for a drop of water. The bible (KJV)is just fulling itself and will be coming to an end soon. Keep looking toward the Eastern skies because our Lord Jesus Christ will arise in the East during the rapture to bring his children home; Lord don't be with the ones left because if you receive the mark of the beast, you will never see or step foot in heaven. Die as a martar for Jesus Christ instead, after excepting him as your savior first. If you have not excepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior, today is the day. Don't end up in the pits of hell with Saddam and his people alike. Except Jesus as your personal savior and experience the love that his has shown us by his crucifixtion on the cross at calvary, his blood was shed to cover our sins for you and I.
Posted by: Sandy at January 03, 2007 11:12 AM (HOvkI)
Posted by: Hugh at January 03, 2007 11:26 AM (8hdQ+)
Posted by: mufc for life at January 03, 2007 11:37 AM (MDEAY)
Posted by: Hugh at January 03, 2007 11:37 AM (8hdQ+)
We all know the American tactics of divide and rule. But the question is; how long will this last? Trust me, there is always and end to everything. Americans had to look for a scapegoat for the aggression against Iraq - the only victory they can claim is assassination of Saddam through his own people. It is obvious that Americans capitalized on the differences between Shiahs and Sunnis and in doing so have created a bigger rift amongst Muslims. Our brothers in Iraq have erred and sooner or later they will discover their mistakes. It is the same Shiahs who are on your side that will lead to your destructions – they are the majority in Iran and will turn against you just like Iraq did after the Iran-Iraq war. We very well know that Americans have a blue print for the New Middle East - one that will assure the safety of Israel which is continuously committing genocide against the Arab and Muslim community in Middle East.
Americans who are celebrating Saddam's hanging are obviously not aware of the consequences this has to their own tranquility. You ought to remember that peace is the best alternative that we should strive for. Tell me, why do you associate Saddam to terrorists? Is he responsible for the 9-11? Besides, those that abuse Islam and Arabs should be careful because they only serve to insight. We denounce terrorism and always preach for mutual existence. Yeah right, you are a superpower but remember that even the mightiest did fall. The best choice America has today is to let others rule in their own peaceful style. Who said democracy is the only way to rule? The likes of Jeff Bargholz are just but insighters and America should get rid of them. They do not deserve to coexist in a nation made up of many cultures - there are Arabs and Muslims who are American Citizens and I am sure they are disturbed by such unethical comments from the likes of Jeff who portray racism and provocation. I know some of you are impatient to respond with non-meaningful and insightful comments – spare your time and energy because some of us are not interested in lunacy.
Posted by: Peace at January 03, 2007 11:42 AM (5cc3L)
Posted by: jax at January 03, 2007 11:51 AM (wIw2p)
Did anyone notice the lead stories after the hanging all talked about how Saddan panicked in his last moments? That changed pretty quickly when the truth got out. How can the media control your opinion when you have access to video of what really happened? This cannot be allowed.
DEATH TO THOSE WHO RELEASED THE VIDEO! Just don't expect to see it in the media, unless you pay for their streaming video feeds.
Posted by: Hoi Poloi at January 03, 2007 11:52 AM (ZEmxh)
Posted by: Hugh at January 03, 2007 11:54 AM (8hdQ+)
Posted by: Patriot at January 03, 2007 11:55 AM (YFZD8)
Posted by: jax at January 03, 2007 11:56 AM (wIw2p)
Posted by: Patriot at January 03, 2007 11:59 AM (YFZD8)
Posted by: republican at January 03, 2007 12:01 PM (EJxi2)
Posted by: Patriot at January 03, 2007 12:04 PM (YFZD8)
Where is the difference between them and Saddam?
Is this an example for a better world which is worth to live in?
Look to the former enemies France an Germany.Both People have now the same ideals for humanity and justice - death penalty was abolished in 1949(Germany) and 1981 (France)We both respect the International Court of Justice, which the US under G.W. Bush doesn't respect. Our People are politically much closer to another, since Bush started this unholy und senseless war against Iraq.As a German I respect the integrity of The People of Iraq - it's laws and institutions. But the Court which gave Saddam the death sentence was ruled and controlled by the US-Government!
Bush said: "It is an important milestone on Iraq's course to becoming a democracy..." -
Ridiculous! - it was a day of revenge for George W. Bush and for further hate and inhumanity among the Iraqi ethnic groups!
Roland Sindimindi, Germany
Posted by: Sindimindi at January 03, 2007 12:08 PM (yRhFu)
Posted by: jax at January 03, 2007 12:09 PM (wIw2p)
Posted by: Hugh at January 03, 2007 12:10 PM (8hdQ+)
Posted by: TNG at January 03, 2007 12:11 PM (1roNc)
Posted by: TNG at January 03, 2007 12:15 PM (1roNc)
Posted by: cha at January 03, 2007 12:16 PM (+Jilk)
Posted by: rep at January 03, 2007 12:18 PM (EJxi2)
Posted by: rep at January 03, 2007 12:18 PM (EJxi2)
KIMOS ! ! !
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Posted by: TNG at January 03, 2007 12:21 PM (1roNc)
Posted by: dave at January 03, 2007 12:22 PM (z9hKy)
Posted by: Patriot at January 03, 2007 12:24 PM (YFZD8)
After 9/11 just remind us exactly what role Saddam or Iraq played in it? Who are you fighting back against? Or are you just making more enemies in the muslim world that may in future exact revenge upon you? Saddam was a despotic leader, but there are quite a few of those to go round. Why should USA interfere in another countries rule? After all the problem is theirs not yours! or does USA plan to interfere in everyones politics. Sounds like nazism to me.
Posted by: tony at January 03, 2007 12:24 PM (4Ctn9)
Posted by: zouhair at January 03, 2007 12:25 PM (KkD6t)
Posted by: nemos9 at January 03, 2007 12:28 PM (lGFNe)
Posted by: rep at January 03, 2007 12:29 PM (EJxi2)
Posted by: rep at January 03, 2007 12:30 PM (EJxi2)
Posted by: rep at January 03, 2007 12:33 PM (EJxi2)
Posted by: rep at January 03, 2007 12:33 PM (EJxi2)
Shut the fuck up...Saddam, that Sunni-salafist prick, had his hand in everything. I don't know if you understand the term "state sponsored terrorism" maybe look it up, yes? We should have taken him out in the first Gulf War. Listen here, to all you sand-in-the-vagina-mother-fuckers think we should have never gone in Iraq. Appeasement appeasement, which is all you scream and yell...we tried that. And that was with Hitler. If we don't combat the wrongdoing in the world, who will? It is our job as the super-power. Sounds like Nazi rhetoric? They wanted to "cleanse" the human race dipshit. We want people to be free.
Posted by: Patriot at January 03, 2007 12:37 PM (YFZD8)
Posted by: nemos9 at January 03, 2007 12:39 PM (lGFNe)
Posted by: Patriot at January 03, 2007 12:42 PM (YFZD8)
Your statment would make a valuable point if not for one exeption:
How can the helium become ionized and follow the magnetic field lines if the rate at which the earth's magnetic field is dying? If the earth is 4.5 billion years old why do we still have a magnetic field? If the earth were billions of years old it would have already cooled to solid rock and there would be no magnetic field.
You have failed to answer that question.
Posted by: Archy at January 03, 2007 12:43 PM (Mo6nc)
Posted by: Jesse W at January 03, 2007 12:43 PM (4U9Bs)
Thank you for your response. I am impressed that your reply was done tastefully. I am in complete understanding that this is not the primary topic of this thread and have no intention of highjacking it any further. This would be a great discussion in a different place. That being said, I think we can both agree that neither of us would change our stance. This is where religion becomes dangerous. I do not believe that religious people are stupid. They are just trained to a certain belief system from the onset of their misguided lives. Religion is imbedded in the minds of followers without ever giving them a chance to use logic or reason. There are many very intelligent people of nearly all religious backgrounds. It is just a shame that the truly important issue, the basis for our existence, is the one area where theists have not been given the proper chance to break free of religions grasp. Their ability to come to their own conclusions was largely stipped from them at birth. And thus, ancient beliefs have been passed from one generation to the next for thousands of years. Beliefs that were used to explain the natural world before we had the means to work toward the truth. You don't still believe the world is flat do you? I hope not. Per your comment, I don't hate the misinformed, only fear what end they will inevitably guide us to. You were the one who called atheists scum. Further confirmation that no matter which occult you belong to, there is no tolerance for outsiders. My comments on religion being the basis for nearly all wars is not focused on Christianity but all religion. Whether you believe in the Christian god, Budha or the Greek gods, it's all the same. You are set in your beliefs. No amount of evidence will ever change that. People will continue to fight over it until we are ultimatley done for. We could grow to be such a technologically advanced society, but we will never make it that far. Put down the bible, open your mind, and come to the understanding that our place here is extremely tiny, extremely delicate and can be terminated. Not by god, but by our own hand. We are not the center of the universe and not the foundation on which all else exists. Human arrogance and unwillingness to accept this will be our demise.
Posted by: NO Religion at January 03, 2007 12:47 PM (pUwHl)
Posted by: Jesse at January 03, 2007 12:48 PM (4U9Bs)
Posted by: kkk at January 03, 2007 12:49 PM (4bCea)
Posted by: N/A at January 03, 2007 12:50 PM (4U9Bs)
Posted by: Patriot at January 03, 2007 12:53 PM (YFZD8)
Posted by: nemos9 at January 03, 2007 12:57 PM (lGFNe)
Posted by: tenderheart at January 03, 2007 01:03 PM (E+waw)
Stay away from europe.
Posted by: Peter at January 03, 2007 01:04 PM (YyLe4)
MAJORITY SEEM TO BE HAPPY WITH THE EXECUTION, SO BRING ON THE SHARIAH LAW. IF SADDAM IS A MURDERER, LETS HANG & STONE TO DEATH ALL MURDERERS ACROSS THE WORLD. WHY IS IT ACCEPTABLE FOR ONE PERSON TO BE HANGED FOR MURDER AND NOT FOR ANOTHER. SHARON, BUSH, PUTIN, BLAIR ARE NO DIFFERENT TO SADDAM.
TWO FACED INFIDELS.
Posted by: muslim at January 03, 2007 01:07 PM (u0/hV)
Stay in Iraq, please! Lets see what you can acheive.
Nemos9, have you ever been outside the USA or are you like your fellow Americans (only 1 in 4 have a passport) know everything & if you dont, just shout abuse you ignorant redneck fuckhead!!!!!
Posted by: tony at January 03, 2007 01:12 PM (4Ctn9)
Posted by: zouhair at January 03, 2007 01:13 PM (KkD6t)
Posted by: Kami at January 03, 2007 01:14 PM (gq3Ya)
Posted by: Kami at January 03, 2007 01:14 PM (gq3Ya)
Posted by: Kami at January 03, 2007 01:14 PM (gq3Ya)
IF MARK ANTONY WERE ALIVE TODAY AND HAD SEEN SADDAM HUSSEIN AS A FRIEND,HE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THIS GLOWING TRIBUTE TO HIS MEMORY AS HE DID FOE JULIUS CAESAR SOME 2000 YEARS AGO:
"O MIGHTY SADDAM! DOST THOU LIE SO LOW?
ARE ALL THY CONQUESTS,GLORIES,TRIUPHS,SPOILS
SHRUNK TO THIS LITTLE MEASURE?
FARE THEE WELL"
AND AS A RIDER TO THE ABOVE, HE WOULD HAVE CONCLUDED WITH THESE
"THE EVIL THAT MEN DO, LIVES AFTER THEM.
THE GOOD IS OFT INTERRED WITH THEIR BONES;
SO LET IT BE WITH SADDAM"
Posted by: Akwasi Lawrence at January 03, 2007 01:17 PM (iX8M8)
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Posted by: nemos9 at January 03, 2007 01:32 PM (lGFNe)
The characteristic time for helium escape at an average exospheric temperature of 1500 k is 60 million years or 70 million years. But the magnitude of the source from the decay of radioactive elements has been estimated by a number of researchers as 2 x 10 cm-2 sec-1. By dividing this flux into the column density of helium in the atmosphere we obtain a residence time for helium of 2 million years, much less than the charicteristic escape time.
Posted by: Archy at January 03, 2007 01:33 PM (Mo6nc)
IF THE USA,WITH ALL ITS WEALTH AND POWER,BOTH REAL AND PUTATIVE,CONTROLS THE WIDE WORLD BUT FEARS A SINGLE ARAB LEADER LIKE SADDAM AND SO MUST HANG HIM DEAD,SO BE IT.BUT THE USA MUST KNOW THAT THOUGH SADDAM IS DEAD,HIS SOUL MATCHES ON AND FROM THE RISING TO THE SETTING OF THE SUN, THE ARAB WORLD SHALL REMEMBER HIM.
Posted by: Lawrence Heathcliff at January 03, 2007 01:37 PM (iX8M8)
IF THE USA,WITH ALL ITS WEALTH AND POWER,BOTH REAL AND PUTATIVE,CONTROLS THE WIDE WORLD BUT FEARS A SINGLE ARAB LEADER LIKE SADDAM AND SO MUST HANG HIM DEAD,SO BE IT.BUT THE USA MUST KNOW THAT THOUGH SADDAM IS DEAD,HIS SOUL MATCHES ON AND FROM THE RISING TO THE SETTING OF THE SUN, THE ARAB WORLD SHALL REMEMBER HIM.
Posted by: Lawrence Heathcliff at January 03, 2007 01:37 PM (iX8M8)
Posted by: scott at January 03, 2007 01:39 PM (eNVVr)
Posted by: Paul at January 03, 2007 01:41 PM (LKJrY)
Posted by: nemos9 at January 03, 2007 01:52 PM (lGFNe)
You have more support than you think my friend. What is upsetting people is that the troops shouldn't be there in the first place. Don't mistake people's wish to have them back with any kind of negativity towards the troops themselves. I know what is happening out there and know how hard it is but at the end of the day, there was no valid reason for going into Iraq. Sure, we have to sort something out now we have brought about this current situation but there is no lack of support for the troops. I want them all home safe. I can remember standing on the pavement as an anti-war march passed and I said to my wife, "There's no way we would go in unless Iraq really was a threat so whilst I don't want our troops going in, it must be necessary." We were all hoodwinked. Bush & Blair should be on trial for what they have done.
Posted by: Paul at January 03, 2007 01:52 PM (LKJrY)
Of course we support our troops out there, Brits & Americans alike. They are doing their job to the best of their ability. But why are they there? are they defending USA or UK against Iraqi attack? Where are the weapons of mass destruction we were told would be found? No, it was all a lie, an excuse to secure future oil supplies. It has nothing to do with humanitarian issues, or that Saddam was a "bad man". Iraq invaded its neighbour Kuwait for oil.
We have now done the same to Iraq. The world is not a safer place. Our troops in Iraq are just a target for any muslim with a grudge. We should pull out & let nature take its course & seek out & destroy the real terrorists & punish those countries who harbour them.
Posted by: tony at January 03, 2007 01:53 PM (4Ctn9)
Posted by: Sam at January 03, 2007 02:15 PM (T90Dc)
Posted by: Sam at January 03, 2007 02:15 PM (T90Dc)
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Posted by: fk32 at January 03, 2007 02:22 PM (uy3W4)
look i know there are people who disagree with what is going on out there and you do have the right to disagree. but you need to realize that regardless of what you think, we are out there doing our job. and is it too much to ask for some FUCKING support for our boys out there. and i think if the media would show a fair and balanced picture of the things happening out there, more people would see the whole picture.and not be as much on the bush bashing bandwagon that is the in thing right now. and all the hate for hte president being showed is not only unamerican it is adding fuel to the fire in our enemies fight against us. when we get together and show a united front against those who wish to destroy us they will cower in fear and then the world may have some peace once and for all. regardless of what religion you happen to believe in.
Posted by: nemos9 at January 03, 2007 02:27 PM (lGFNe)
Posted by: fk32 at January 03, 2007 02:29 PM (uy3W4)

Posted by: bogdan at January 03, 2007 02:33 PM (MJE/i)
Let BUSH be next and everyone's that likes him mom's also..
Beeaatchhhh
Posted by: Killa at January 03, 2007 02:40 PM (sgp7g)
If America did not stand up to terrorist you would be bent over backwards taking it up the back side as you like. Right? Is that the true reason you hate America?
Posted by: rep at January 03, 2007 02:46 PM (EJxi2)
If America did not stand up to terrorist you would be bent over backwards taking it up the back side as you like. Right? Is that the true reason you hate America?
Posted by: rep at January 03, 2007 02:47 PM (EJxi2)
If we want to take the moral high ground (freedom, liberty & justice for all) we should be setting good examples to peoples throughout the world, who no doubt mistrust us, because our motives seem to be to defend the almighty $ & corporate interests.
Posted by: tony at January 03, 2007 02:49 PM (4Ctn9)
Posted by: Steve at January 03, 2007 02:49 PM (uy3W4)
Posted by: Bhudda at January 03, 2007 02:57 PM (4Cjg/)
Posted by: nemos9 at January 03, 2007 03:09 PM (lGFNe)
Posted by: cliff at January 03, 2007 03:10 PM (hRELA)
Talking aboutany non US citizen in the way some of you do should be no surprise to those who read history..native Americans...ring any bells?
Posted by: eurotrash at January 03, 2007 03:51 PM (DooUG)
Posted by: richard at January 03, 2007 03:52 PM (0k+yq)
He recieved money and technology to develop chemical weapons from Donald Rumsfeld in the early 1980's during the Reagan/Bush administration. For the sole purpose of defeating the Iranians. How many innocent Iraqui civilians (over half of them children) had to die in order for US justice to be served? Over 120,000 is a good estimate. How can you justify that killing people is wrong by killing other people who had nothing to do with the attacks in NY and Washington DC on 9/11/2001.
The only people responsible for that infamous day are the tyrants within the current Bush Administration. They pulled it off with laser precision and got away with hundreds of billions of dollars in gold (which were kept underneath the WTC). You'll never hear about that in the mainstream media because they're all in on it together. Playing off of the fear of the american people to keep us parylized, so that no one asks questions on why/how the towers fell, who was responsible, where are the black boxes from the planes, how many put options were placed on united and american airlines in the days before 9/11/2001, how can someone use a cell phone on a plane when the technology wasn't put into use until 2004, why should we go to war with a virtually defenseless nation which was not responsible for attacking the US (but has plenty of oil). So while you're laughing and celebrating the death of the "boogeyman" remember to welcome the project for a new american century which is in going smoothly.
Posted by: Justin at January 03, 2007 04:19 PM (nIhw+)
let the man rest in peace, and let god take good care of him. the man was sick and so are the world. he will not been missed but some of all this comments here are just sick.... it´s tells more about the humans sick minds and what the world has become to.
never hade says god - make love and forgive !!
may saddam and he´s victims rest in peace and never been forgot.
the western world.
Posted by: god at January 03, 2007 04:19 PM (4HKD0)
Posted by: nemos9 at January 03, 2007 04:20 PM (lGFNe)
I`m just wondering if you are a believer in some kind of god ? And if so, isnt it to god to judge about life and dead ? And not some people who have the power to take a life ? I`m not a big fan of saddam but to take a life ..... i dont think any god is okay with that. Totaly sick comments.
And for what, some oil rich lands. LOL
Posted by: Wappy at January 03, 2007 04:22 PM (tF5sQ)
Posted by: god at January 03, 2007 04:25 PM (4HKD0)
Posted by: juanito at January 03, 2007 04:26 PM (reH7z)
Posted by: juanito at January 03, 2007 04:26 PM (reH7z)
It was said that he went in a dignified manner, thanking the U.S. captors for their treatment of him.
I've always tolorated Bush as a president, I believe he has the heart, just not the intelligence or diplomacy required for presidency. When the U.S. troops found Saddam, hiding in the hole, he was armed with a pistol that Bush now keeps in the White House as a trophy. This sickens me, we should not confuse the goals of helping Shiites with killing Saddam. The Sunnis are not the target either, tyrany is. Cheers to our beloved troops out there, for everything they do for the United States and the rest of the world, but you guys need to get your asses home, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Posted by: Andrew at January 03, 2007 04:27 PM (wHbwT)
Posted by: richard at January 03, 2007 04:28 PM (0k+yq)
Posted by: god at January 03, 2007 04:32 PM (4HKD0)
If we continue with an eye for an eye, what are we going to do when all the eyes are blind ( Ghandi)
If history teaches us anything it's this. There is no winner in violent conflict. Before the age of instant communications the right of perceived winners to write the history was implicit, however in reality peace and co-existance only ever came through diplomacy and dialogue. Not debate as that just tells somone else thay are wrong. No basis for movement there.
Believe me as a middle aged Englishman who not only lived through 30 years of Irish terrorism incl. 3 tours in Belfast as a serving soldier, I saw thousands killed on our shores by weapons and bombs bought from libya funded by and large by misguided Irish Americans. Millions of pounds and thousands of lives only to reach the conclusion that we could not bully them into our way of thinking. How can you bomb someone into a belief system that is alien to them and in reality not wanted.
Ask yourselves the question " Why do they hate us?" and I include the British in this, put aside the jealousy bullshit which is really only about justification, be prepared to listen and then to talk.
We may yet all be surprised.
Posted by: eurotrash at January 03, 2007 04:34 PM (DooUG)
If we continue with an eye for an eye, what are we going to do when all the eyes are blind ( Ghandi)
If history teaches us anything it's this. There is no winner in violent conflict. Before the age of instant communications the right of perceived winners to write the history was implicit, however in reality peace and co-existance only ever came through diplomacy and dialogue. Not debate as that just tells somone else thay are wrong. No basis for movement there.
Believe me as a middle aged Englishman who not only lived through 30 years of Irish terrorism incl. 3 tours in Belfast as a serving soldier, I saw thousands killed on our shores by weapons and bombs bought from libya funded by and large by misguided Irish Americans. Millions of pounds and thousands of lives only to reach the conclusion that we could not bully them into our way of thinking. How can you bomb someone into a belief system that is alien to them and in reality not wanted.
Ask yourselves the question " Why do they hate us?" and I include the British in this, put aside the jealousy bullshit which is really only about justification, be prepared to listen and then to talk.
We may yet all be surprised.
Posted by: eurotrash at January 03, 2007 04:40 PM (DooUG)
Posted by: ted at January 03, 2007 04:40 PM (Sq9uK)
Sorry to disappoint, I am a Brit. We only had a couple of hundred years of ruling most of the world, & yes, we did get criticised by many when we got it wrong. As far as enjoying lifes little luxuries, courtesy of USA, I have just been watching our news,it seems that 2006 marked the end of the UK paying off our loan from you for the 2nd world war. You remember, where the British Empire stood alone for 3 years, against Nazi tyranny, only to be bled dry by our future allies.
Being proud of your country is a great thing. Being blindly patriotic is what nazis were, ie just following orders, when they massacred US & British POW's, not to mention the Holocaust. Anyway, what it boils down to is: It doesn't matter what we say, as we do not have any control over events, but leaders make decisions that soldiers carry out. It does not make it right.
To avoid another "vietnam" situation, we should all get out now & not waste another soldiers life in a Corporate cause.
Who will be next? Chavez (President of Venezuela)? After all he is in control of the 5th richest oil supply & he does not like Bush. Does that make him a criminal?
Enjoyed the chat. Going to bed.
Posted by: tony at January 03, 2007 04:44 PM (lGaMU)
Posted by: kara at January 03, 2007 04:46 PM (oZnOc)
Posted by: londoni! at January 03, 2007 04:57 PM (pLGVt)
After reading several of your posts I have drawn the following conclusions:
1. You are brainwashed
2. You have too much time to devote to meaningless chatroom blogs that serve no purpose save as a sounding board for fanatics/zealots
3. You watch too many John Wayne movies
4. Your inability to control your emotions in an internet forum is a reflection on your lack of any type of leadership position during your lifespan thusfar
I'm interested in reading your attack on this post before I reveal my experiences in Iraq, Afghanistan and Washington.
cheers
Posted by: villain at January 03, 2007 05:05 PM (rv6YJ)
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Posted by: 0987654321 at January 03, 2007 05:11 PM (M+Uk+)
I totally support anyone against the hanging of sadam. It was wrong to hang him!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Shut your mouth at January 03, 2007 05:17 PM (M+Uk+)
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Posted by: peregrine at January 03, 2007 05:38 PM (8jCOe)
I am sorry for my offensive behavior. You gotta excuse me as I have been under medication for severe depression and a serious drugs problem.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 3, 2007 04:51 AM
Nice one Jeff !!!!
Posted by: Lord Lagaan at January 03, 2007 05:40 PM (ZopWW)
Your comments are grossly misleading. The fact is, Saddam was averse to Al-Qaeda. They tried to make contact with him, and he rejected their hand. The connections you listed are part of something entirely different. And it reminds me of those arguments people try to make to say that we (USA) support terrorism. For example, we supported Saddam even though we knew he was killing a lot of people (the video of Saddam and Rumsfeld - check youtube - was made after he committed some of his more terrible crimes). We also supported Bin Laden and the list goes on. Does that mean we are a terrorist nation? Fuck no. We made mistakes. Saddam was not keen on the fundamentalists factions roving around. As a matter of fact, those groups were often his targets. Iraq was better off with Saddam, and so were we and the rest of the world. Now we have fundamentalist wackos to deal with who will likely turn out to be 10 times worse.
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 05:43 PM (AA/Rk)
Pray that God have mercy on his soul? Why? Who cares about his soul? I don't. If I believed in hell, that's where I would pray that he be. But I agree with you on one thing, people ought not rejoice the killing. The dealt penalty is sick and ought to be abolished.
Posted by: white at January 03, 2007 05:51 PM (AA/Rk)
Posted by: a at January 03, 2007 05:53 PM (AMUdb)
Posted by: nemos9 at January 03, 2007 05:54 PM (lGFNe)
Posted by: a at January 03, 2007 05:55 PM (AMUdb)
Posted by: Damien at January 03, 2007 05:56 PM (3VCo0)
Yes I have an opinion, they are a bit like assholes really in that we all have one.
My opionion is that we went to war on a lie. However
in that thousands of our troops are there and putting their lives at risk it is encumbant upon us to first and foremost acknowledge the incredible job they are doing, inspite of the political donkeys on all sides. ( Things never change).
As I said there can be no winner in armed conflict just more media shots of body bags containing real people which fuel fanatics on both sides. Right or left matters not as fanaticism tends to meet up round the back.
One persons' terrorist is anothers' freedom fighter and tomorrows diplomat.
It is nothing new but if we always do what we have always done we will always get what we have always got.
So, opinions? yes I have one, I just wish I had the answer.
Posted by: eurotrash at January 03, 2007 05:59 PM (DooUG)
Justin on comment 711:
Your mistaken, Saddam paid $25000 to each family of a suicide bomber killing Middle eastern Jews, so he had that connection. he sent terrot tems abroad, one to assainante OUR president, so thats another exmple. He sheltered other terrorists (use a search engine please) so you are plainly mistaken.
Yhanks
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 03, 2007 06:00 PM (2OHpj)
Humanity's survival!
That is a worthy concern. I attach the answer to the Survival of the Constutional form of government found in the USA, while some attach the answer to Sharia law. Others cling to Marxism as the answer. The reason your concern is especially timely, is that these are the major forces at opposition to each other in the world. None of these will surrender either. Each has shown a determination to engage in some version of Amegeddon to resist its own defeat. Note that all three have nukes.
Sharia produces Muslims, and Dhimmi (a cross between tolerance, and slavery, that is suppossed to be a 'great honor', but instead humiliates the non-muslim)
Marxism produces unmotivated servants of the state, and an elite class to 'educate' them. Not quite as ugly as Dhimmitude, but still oppresive.
Then you have western style free democracy with its free market incentive. Anyone can make something of themselves no matter their religion, race, color, politics, education, or even the lack of education. the only people who can't work to better their lives are the lazy, because they can't make themselves do anything.
If we don't fight for whichever we believe is best, we surrender humanity to either of the other choices, for better, or worse.
If we do fight, we face the possibility though not the certainty, of the global extinction of humanity. What you choose depends on what you think is worth the most. Is it better to surrender, and become subservient under a system you hate? Or is it better to stand with your principles as long as you have breath?
Chief Joseph (google) tried to escape that choice for his own people, by taking them to another land. In the end, exhausted, he chose surrender, to save those he could. Was that the best choice?
The Pilgrims tried to flee persecutuion when they came on the Mayflower. They didn't have a manifesto to wage genocide against native Americans, they just didn't see the wide open spaces as belonging to anyone. It was wilderness. Others followed them with similar ideas, but their Kings, and Popes, and other august persons had to have their hand upon them in the end. As we know, Europes overlords followed the Pilgrims, and then pushed themselves onto native Americans as well. Were the Pilgrims, and others seeking a better life doing anything wrong?
In 1939 it became apparent that the world couldn't talk to Hitler. Whenever you tried, he just grabbed what he wanted anyway. America was culturally in the mood to just stay out, while US leaders tied to find ways to quietly help the Western Allies without breaking the laws they were bound to. Was this wrong?
Finally we in the US were brought to war by another power that decided not to talk. Japan bombed Pearl harbor. We decided not to talk anymore either. In the end both of our immediate enemies were leveled to ashes, which proved fertile ground for brand new democracies. Were we wrong?
Now the western world is attacked from within and without, and many of us don't know what to do to save it.
Will we surrender the west to the grey state servitude of Marxism, which has literally killed more people for its ideals, than any major religion?
Will we surrender it to the bloody legacy of Sharia, who holds as perfect, an intolerant desert brigand who once stoned a woman who went to him seeking forgiveness?
Or will we continue in a system that allows poor people to become rich, and rich people to use their wealth to create more wealth, and allows the lazy to stay home and watch 200 odd cable channels while claiming they are oppresed, and lets Michael Moore lie and distort reality, and make 100 million dollars doing it?
I really hate to think I'd ever die for anything that benefitted a sleaze bucket like Michael Moore, but if I ignore him, I can see that it is the greater cause of freedom to which I am devoted, and I can die to preserve that for my children. Am I wrong? Should I surrender?
I don't plan on it! So I do sympathize with your concern, and it is worthy. it cuts across ideology, and is important to all human beings.
What do you think we should do?
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 03, 2007 06:04 PM (2OHpj)
Lmao.
I definitly gotta go with, "His ass should have been tortued worse". After all the the shit he destructed and caused. That was minor torture to him.
Atleast his ass is dead.
But yea they should have shot him in the legs and arms, electrocuted him for 15 seconds, cut his toes and fingers off, threw him off a one story house, beat his ass and then gased him or hung him. Either one.
Posted by: Dave at January 03, 2007 06:15 PM (QVCNV)
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Posted by: tony at January 03, 2007 06:35 PM (1/zJW)
Posted by: matthew at January 03, 2007 06:38 PM (7sTrk)
that is their war. Not all of the world wars are Bush's. As for Bush killing more people in Iraq that that POS we just watch die. Are you serious?!! How ignorant can you be. Oh and for the record Saddam was not tried and sentenced to death by ANYONE in the US including Bush. So to ask who is Bush to kill Saddam is irrelevant. Iraqi's convicted and executed him. The US just happened to dig his sissy, weak, chicken shit ass out of a hole in the ground. And for the record the word is hanged not hunged. And geez people its funny that those calling for Bush and Blair to be next have got to be the least intelligent people on earth. Hoe is definitely a different word than how Abla LOL. If your going to try to make a point at least try to spell some of the words correctly.
Oh and as for how any people the US has Killed. Lets see..... Many of your poor sand asses would not be alive if it werent for the US. The US is called on to come to the aide of everyone. All of your countries have begged the US for help and then once we help you turn your backs and lay blame. Hey how about the US helps no one anymore and let you all suffer in the dirt sand and disease you obviously want. Nope I suppose we are too humane for that. And as I type I hear of another bombing... this time in Spain didnt sound like and American group to me how about you?
The Free world rocks!!!!!
Posted by: proud american at January 03, 2007 06:38 PM (jRVR4)
Posted by: matthew at January 03, 2007 06:39 PM (7sTrk)
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Posted by: Matt Cachu at January 03, 2007 06:42 PM (Kf0KS)
Unfortunately, now this opportunity to gather valuable intelligence directly from the man himself is gone, and that I think is a HUGE loss. Sorta similar to Hitler's suicide. They are gone so quickly, there is very little closure...
The man deserved at least an exit interview with PBS. I would watch it.
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Posted by: Hugh at January 03, 2007 07:07 PM (8hdQ+)
You say you support the soldiers but not the war. Well, the soldiers don't buy that. They believe your lack of support for the war is a direct reflection on them. They are there fighting a war they support - you not supporting the war is tantamount to not supporting them. Their morale suffers when they here people do not support their actions. Their actions are about fighting a war. Not supporting the war is really not supporting their actions (which is fighting a war).
In what manner of thinking can one posit they support a man but not what the man is doing? They are fighting a war - they want support for fighting the war, not people telling them the war is not worth supporting.
Send a hard worker a meal, then tell him you don't like the fact the meal will help him continue to work hard because you don't like the project he is working on. You provide a dis-incentive for that person.
Please look at your position more carefully. It matters not that you have had relatives in the armed forces. What matters is your opinion of this war is demoralizing the troops.
Posted by: honor justice at January 03, 2007 10:51 PM (U3SoB)
A question to those who believe the US should not be in Iraq: When US troops are attacked, does the US have a right to defend themselves? Of course they have a right to defend themselves. Saddam ordered his troops, on numerous occasions, to attack the US and British troops (who were in Iraq for many years prior to the 2003 invasion (sanctioned by the UN) - in areas called no fly zones to help protect Iraqis in northern and southern Iraq). Based on those attacks alone, the US had a right to remove Saddam, his government, and troops from power, period.
Do tell if you disagree with the US not having the right to defend itself.
The WMD argument was only one of thirteen separate issues that Saddam had ignored (in his agreement with the UN). According to his own records, 500 tons of chemical weapons were never accounted for (as Saddam had previously agreed to do). It was discovered by the UN Saddam was also in possession, in 2002/3, of long range missles that were classified as WMD (he did not declare possession of these as he also agreed to). In my opinion, Saddam was a weapon of mass destruction - considering the chemicals and weapons were created at his behest.
Posted by: honor justice at January 03, 2007 11:08 PM (U3SoB)
You say you don't support the "war" but you support the troops. Leaving aside the fact that there is no war in iraq, what is it about the troops that you support? Their existence? Their various political beliefs? Their hopes and aspirations? Their sexual preferences? Maybe you're a human jockstrap?
When you say you support the police and the fire department, it means you support their jobs. It doesn't mean you support them in some selective, esoteric fashion, but you oppose what they're doing. Either you support them or you don't.
If you don't support what the troops are doing, you don't support the troops. Soldiers are defined by what they do. You cant claim to support them as individuals, because as individuals, they're carrying out the mission you don't support as part of a larger force.
You cant say you support the troops just because you care about your cousin and two uncles--who probably aren't serving in Iraq.
Claiming to support the troops but not their mission is sleazy left-wing doublethink. It's a tired, transparent attempt to slam military action without being criticized. It's like the racist who says "some of my best friends are so and so."
You're full of shit.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 04, 2007 01:29 AM (abVz3)
You know even less about islam and islamopithecines than you do about Christianity and Christians--and you don't know dick about Christianity. You're just another lickspittle leftist who plagiarizes anti-Christian dogma from other sources. if it weren't for bullshit, you wouldn't have anything to say at all. Hell, the only reason you feel brave enough to spew your bile is because we're not in the same room.
Stick to writing about what you know, like felching and taking it up the ass.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 04, 2007 02:00 AM (abVz3)
Your inane comment was about a foot long, but you didn't manage to say anything. Sure, you let me know that you're an imbecile (nobody else read it,) but I doubt that's what you intended to do.
I extend my sincere apology. I apologize for not being around when you nattered on, because I would have enjoyed belittling a moonbat as pretentious and insecure as you are.
I live in fear of the day a scrawny little flamer shows up at my door to practice his thai bo pirouettes. People have died from laughing too hard, you know.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 04, 2007 02:28 AM (abVz3)
America has only one culture--American culture. "Multiculturalism" is nothing but one of many subversive rhetoric techniques invented in Stalin's soviet union. So is political correctness, and the punishment for non-conformity it brings. both were created to foment class warfare and hatred of the government in the West, specifically America.
Hatemongering Idiots like you have bought into it like the born suckers you are.
Those proto-hominid islamopithecines in America that you want me to sing kumbayah with will slit your throat in a second if they get the chance. After they gang rape tou, of course.
You're hopelessly deluded, sister moonbeam.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 04, 2007 02:57 AM (abVz3)
Again, you're laboring under a lot of misconceptions about Christianity and Christians.
Logic and reason are inseperable from Christianity and faith, according to most theologians. Remenber the Pope's speeech I mentioned? The one that sparked a shit-storm from koranimals, and yes, atheists? That was the subject of his speech. You really need to read it. I'm sure you can find it online with no problem, but if you cant, let me know and I'll look it up for you.
The scientific basis for our existence is discussed on a regular basis by Christians. You cant really believe that Christian universities don't have biology departments, or that the professors are all atheists. They are hardly atypical of Christians, by the way. Very few Christians take the creation story in Genesis literally, and those who do are not going to blow up your city because you don't. They aren't pushing to legislate their religion in any way, either. (Opposing abortion is not enforcing religion, in case you wanted to go there.)
You're dead wrong about tolerance. If Christians didn't tolerate non-Christians, there wouldn't be any in this country. More than 90% of Americans are Christian, but they don't use that bloc power to persecute, exile, or kill others. That don't choose to wield bloc power at all. (Muslimes do on a regular basis, in case you think it's impossible to do so.)
My comment about atheists was in response to a diatribe written by a typical Christian hating, spittle flecked, America-last, atheist leftwinger. If I were as intolerant as you imply, I would have reacted the same way to you. The other guy was one of those hatemongers who bases his atheism on hatred for Christianity (and probably no small amount of self loathing.)
As I wrote before, religion has been the excuse for many wars (nowhere near the majority,) but except for islame, it has rarely been the basis. War against non-Christians is not a tenet of Christianity, and it never has been. Wars are usually fought over a specific goal, and that goal is not religious supremacy. Only islame wants to establish itself as the "law" of the land worldwide.
I lso disagree that our place here is delicate. Mankind doesn't have the power to destroy life on Earth. We coudn't come close. We couldn't even destroy all human life.
As far as neither of us being able to change our stances, you should know that I used to be a Christian hating atheist. I changed my mind when I grew tired of believing in nothing.
Cheers.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 04, 2007 03:42 AM (abVz3)
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 04, 2007 03:46 AM (abVz3)
America bled Britain dry? Is that what they teach cock-suckers like you in your sub-standard schools? (Standardized test scores far lower than ours.) Britain wasn't required to pay anything back during WWII, and we sure as hell weren't obligated to save your limey asses, you sniveling freeloader. You assholes went to war with us twice, and we forgave you. If we were bloodsuckers, we wouldn't have olet you wait decades to pay off your debt, and we wouldn't allow you to buy so much property in our country.
Your corporation bashing and war for oil chants mark you as a moron, but your calumny about America's relationship with a country that owes us its existence was contemptible.
Saddam's dead, and there's nothing a chav like you can do about it.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 04, 2007 04:15 AM (abVz3)
You prove yourself to be very common with the language you use. Some of the good points you make are drowned out by such language and people will be hard pressed to even consider what you say. A more toned down and reasonable approach will win the day when it comes to debating others who might differ in opinion. I suspect you are capable of reasoned thought, and I would hope for your sake that you present those reasoned thoughts in same manner. Otherwise, your presentations are doomed as coming from a raving lunatic.
Posted by: honor justice at January 04, 2007 11:29 AM (U3SoB)
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Posted by: Greyrooster at January 04, 2007 12:38 PM (gKESr)
You seem incapable to grasp the obvious. Do you not think Jeff can speak for himself? You have no idea how much or little one has done, based on only what you see on this forum.
What I said about Jeff is true. His rantings are like that of a raving lunatic and that is exactly how most people see him (well except for a few people like you).
I have a conservative outlook on things, but I believe Jeff to do harm to the conservative cause. If he were to be liberal minded with similar writings I would still say the same about him. His approach to debate is non-productive i.e. he cannot hope to sway peoples opinions with his crude common approach. Is Jeff a liberal minded person appearing as raving lunatic conservative type? Is he trying to make people believe what a fringe the liberals are up against?
It takes a more uncommon balanced approach for people to take one seriously. Jeff doesn't strike me as a person who is capable of hearing a reasonably balanced debate nor respond to one.
And by the way Grey, you make obvious your inability to produce reasonable comments. I say this because your go and attack the forum name I choose - very child like behaviour from you. I suspect you and Jeff are teenagers unable to get beyond your childhood fetishes like name calling and common rude language. Most children respond in the manner you two have. What other conclusion can I and many others have about you?
Posted by: honor justice at January 04, 2007 02:39 PM (U3SoB)
By the way, I guess from your inane comments you disagree with honoring justice. What do you honor? Or did you not understand what the name was implying? - apparently not.
Posted by: honor justice at January 04, 2007 02:47 PM (U3SoB)
Some good points in that article you posted. Unfortunately, not all would appear as it states.
The pilgrims coming over on the Mayflower in fact were not fleeing persecution. They believed they were called by God to settle the new land and spread the word of God to the natives. There is a memorium statue on the East coast that says as much.
The accounting of history is unfortunately miscontrued or misrepresented at times.
The US of A is a great country, but unfortunately it's history has at times been rewritten.
Posted by: honor justice at January 04, 2007 04:29 PM (U3SoB)
"Jeff Bargholz You prove yourself to be very common with the language you use. Some of the good points you make are drowned out by such language and people will be hard pressed to even consider what you say. A more toned down and reasonable approach will win the day when it comes to debating others who might differ in opinion. I suspect you are capable of reasoned thought, and I would hope for your sake that you present those reasoned thoughts in same manner. Otherwise, your presentations are doomed as coming from a raving lunatic."
If any of that were true, you wouldn't go to so much trouble to address me instead of what I wrote. Don't be a prig.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 04, 2007 10:10 PM (abVz3)
Your comment about the Puritans was patently false. Despite being a powerful movement, they were indeed persecuted in England, and left to America because of it. Their desire to save the heathens' souls doesn't contradict that.
If you're going to use the inscription on a statue as the basis of your argument, you've already lost that argument. You might as well use the Rocky statue in Philadelphia to explain the importance of the American revolution.
Makes your smarmy lecture to me on proper debating techniques kind of ironic, doesn't it?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 04, 2007 10:25 PM (abVz3)
The inscription on a statue honoring the quest of the Pilgrims and their desire to do God's will by; going to, dedicating the New world, dedicating its peoples to God, is a valid point in an argument. Historical truth is there. You choose only to believe the Hollywood version of what happened (which is where most websites regurgitated their story from). I prefer historical period books, not current renditions of what people may have thought or interjected into the history.
I guess you aren't willing to delve into the matter further, it might slightly change your stance on the matter.
You again are in the same boat as grey, trying to make light of the name honor justice, such childish actions. I chose the name honor justice because that is what the Iraqis did. They honored justice by executing Saddam. How low minded you guys are, same side of the coin and you don't even know it.
I wrote about your approach to debating rather than what you were debating because your points are lost in how you present the arguments.
Posted by: honor justice at January 04, 2007 11:04 PM (U3SoB)
"As far as neither of us being able to change our stances, you should know that I used to be a Christian hating atheist. I changed my mind when I grew tired of believing in nothing.
Cheers.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 04, 2007 03:42 AM
ME TOO! It was so empty. There were to many things wrong with it, for me. Its why I am firmly for "free expression".
First I spent some time with Nordic paganism though. I still hang on to some of what gained through those experiences as well. Not going back to Atheism, now that I've compared it to other things.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 05, 2007 12:04 AM (2OHpj)
Posted by: honor justice at January 06, 2007 03:38 AM (U3SoB)
Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 06, 2007 03:55 AM (2OHpj)
The rapacious Pilgrims came to the New World to steal land and resources from the noble savages, who they burdened with feelings of religious guilt and repressive social practices. They turned paradise into a blue state.
That's the Hollywood view, moron.
When you decide which source you prefer for your history, books or statues, let me know. If you want to keep basing your arguments on the inscriptions on statues, I hear there are tons of Saddam Hussein statues waiting for your scholarly review. They're sure to conform to your high standards for accuracy.
Your specious argumentation was presented poorly and hypocritically. Insulting my polemics while spouting innacurate caricatures of history just made you look like the snot-nosed punk you are. I'm not surprised you sneer at Weaver and me for loving our country. You are a cheese-dick, after all.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 06, 2007 12:33 PM (abVz3)
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Posted by: lknx uqenlhgjs at May 18, 2007 08:44 PM (jyUe+)
Fox News on the teevee is reporting that Al Arabiya is reporting that Saddam swings.

Image via Wild Thing.
Official confirmation awaits.
Via CNN:
Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein has been executed, according to two Arabic language media outlets.Hussein was hanged before dawn on Saturday in Iraq, at about 6 a.m. (10 p.m. Friday ET), the U.S.-backed Al-Hurra television reported.
BAGHDAD, Iraq — Saddam Hussein, the former president of Iraq, was executed by hanging shortly before dawn on Saturday in Iraq, Arab media outlets reported.More on why he was executed here.The U.S. military and FOX News have not yet confirmed that the execution has taken place. Al Jazeera, Al Arabiya wire services and U.S.-backed TV station Al Hurrah reported his death.
The man dubbed the Butcher of Baghdad was convicted of crimes against humanity for the killing of 148 Shiite men and young boys after their failed assassination attempt in 1982 in the village of Dujail.
For reaction from Iraq see comments on Mohammed's post at Iraq The Model.
Also see See Dubya at Hot Air, In The Bullpen and Gateway Pundit has an excellent post rounding up Saddam's brutality.
Have a laugh at the Looney Tunes coverage of the event.
because we are going to hit the 3.000 mark tomorrow. and they want to preempt the news about that.
Yes, Kos Kidz, the execution of Saddam was nothing more than a ploy to cover up the news of the next Grim Milestone. Morons.
12/30 A.M. Update: Hot Air has added video of the preparations. Scroll down.
Updated: (Click pic for video...lower quality embed and more images below the fold)

Saddam Hussein Execution Video here. (warning graphic copy that shows him fall).
More copies added below the fold. more...
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Posted by: Good Lt at December 29, 2006 10:35 PM (D0TMh)
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Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 29, 2006 10:59 PM (8e/V4)
Famous last words: "Allahu Ak-k-k"
Evil men swing like a pendulum do
Soldiers in Humvees, two by two
Weapons of mass death, way back when
The hollow white cheeks of the dead children ...
"Remember that present I promised you boys if you were bad? Well here he is! Saddam, meet my 'boys.' ... No, sorry your highness, we're fresh out of vasoline. ... OK, who's second?"
Posted by: Bill Faith at December 29, 2006 11:17 PM (n7SaI)
Very true. I'm with Jesusland Carlos on that point, for sure.
I believe justice was done here.
I feel a slight unease though. Basically we have all of these fancy courts popping up in the world, using high sounding phrases, and claiming they have moral superiority. But if you look at what they use as a standard of evidence, Winston Churchill, and FDR could be charged, and even convicted, for winning WW2!
Not only the international courts are political. National courts claim international authority, and the US 9th circuit court thinks it is G-d. The organizations that use them, or testify for them (ACLU, HRW, CAIR, MAS, etc) have their own political motives, and obvious double standards. Charges are flung around by non-experts, and clueless dupes (Qana) and there is a real threat to those who fight in a just cause.
When there is an incedent involving reasonable men like US Marines, vs mad dogs like the insurgents, and the so called crime scene was in hostile hands for hours, or days. When the investigation waits months before commencing are we supposed to accept that testimony, and evidence are unfaked, factual, and without bias? It sounds like the world would like us to do just that.
Unfortunatly, while justice has come to Saddam, we see similar expectations levelled against our own leaders, and by some of our own (?) people. Who will punish Bush? Who will punish Rumsfeld?
Or as some at Kos were willing to suggest, who will punish Leiberman? Kristol? O'Reily?
Just lie we can use a sword to slay the wicked, and rightly call it justice, so can the wicked raise a sword of their own, and repeat a lie till it is believed.
The French revolution, or the Russian revolution come to mind. During the commotion, if your treacherous you can execute your rivals on rumor alone. We need to be aware of this, because times here are not safe ones.
HEY! I'm just trying to ruin everyones day! Did it work?
Happy New year!
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 29, 2006 11:18 PM (2OHpj)
The depraved, rabidly anti-American moonbats on the left don't want anything to upstage their celebration over 3000 American fatalities. The 3000 mark is just another weapon they plan to use to force an American surrender, ala' Vietnam.
I honestly belive leftists get aroused over every American casualty. Meanwhile, they weep over evil Hussein.
Does anybody know if the casualty figures listed by the media is a fatality list, or just a sneaky way of insinuating every casualty was a fatality?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 30, 2006 12:03 AM (abVz3)
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Posted by: Randman at December 30, 2006 09:37 AM (Sal3J)
We now know exactly how the Left will respond when we hang Osama-- "oh, but why don't we hang BUSH, the world's NO. 1 terrorist!". I've given up trying to please these people.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 30, 2006 10:54 AM (8e/V4)
www.thoughttheater.com
Posted by: Daniel DiRito at December 30, 2006 11:13 AM (kpeoC)
Psychopathic Middle East dictators and international pariahs - 0
Let that one stew a while, leftards. I know it hurts.
Posted by: Good Lt at December 30, 2006 12:44 PM (D0TMh)
Posted by: Frank Hunter at December 30, 2006 12:45 PM (JGiPv)
although, personally i would have prefered shooting him in the spider hole.
Posted by: Ben at December 30, 2006 01:01 PM (Eyjs1)
although, personally i would have prefered shooting him in the spider hole.
Posted by: Ben at December 30, 2006 01:01 PM (Eyjs1)
Did I ever tell you the story of Darth Saddam?
He became so powerful that the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power. Which, our course, he did.
Ironic isn't it. He had his followers murder dozens of truck drivers in snuff films film trying to hold onto his power. But in the end he couldn't save himself from the same fate.
Posted by: Darth Odie Sidiousness at December 30, 2006 01:05 PM (YdcZ0)
Should we not execute all of Saddams relatives and countrymen the sunnis to wipe out the insurgents and give iraq back to the shiites who actually want to run a successful country?
There is more work to do here fellas, only then can we rejoice.
Posted by: Jeremy Givens at December 30, 2006 01:17 PM (Nhfns)
Posted by: davec at December 30, 2006 02:05 PM (yaQM4)
per your comment #13
Follow the links to KOS. The maggot breeders already did that in their own comments section.
Their whole thread is riddled with non-facts, wild nonsense about the war, hate for our leaders, and of course they hold themselves as enlightened and morally superior to anyone who questions them.
I wouldn't leave my kids alone with any one of those brainwashed psychos for a second. Vermin. How many could manage to say either version (Under God, or otherwise)of the Pledge of Alegience? I leave it to speculation. It isn't a God issue, its an anti-American issue. Kos, etc. stink!
To quote a famous traitor, "Screw them!"
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 30, 2006 02:15 PM (2OHpj)
Posted by: trever k at December 30, 2006 03:01 PM (pvs8C)
Posted by: trever k at December 30, 2006 03:02 PM (pvs8C)
Why can't Osama Bin Laden and Zawahiri die? I want them dead. They are still on my need to die list. Saddam, Mohammed Atef, and Zarqawi have been crossed off of the list.
Posted by: Frank Hunter at December 30, 2006 03:32 PM (JGiPv)
Posted by: matt d at December 30, 2006 04:20 PM (AFdxf)
"Saddam Meet Satan, Satan, This Is Saddam"
"DAD!"
"SON!"
(exchange of hugs, and improper touching, and stopping ...)
"Sorry I'm home early Dad!"
"That's OK Son, cause the Dems won the Senate AND the House. You can take it easy..."
"Dad! Is that who I think it is?"
"Yep, Son, thats the Prophet himself. Want to meet him?"
"Actually Dad, I was kinda stoked about meeting the 'virgins' ..."
"Oh, Son, did you forget? Your looking at the 'Prince of Lies' himself! The virgin thing was some of my best work ... now don't look so disappointed ... If your looking for some of the wild thang, I'll let you spend some time with my Grandsons ... you remember the boys, don't you?"
"Uh ... Thats OK Dad, are there any girls down here?"
"Son, you really deserve to spend some quality time with those exciteable progeny of yours. It will keep them out of trouble. Down here five minutes and they were trying to take over the place! Anyway, you really deserve this! You really deserve this ..."
"DAAAD! NOOO!"
The end?
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 30, 2006 06:31 PM (2OHpj)
I know he was a monster, but my human caring side still feels the pain of of others no matter who they are.
can anyone answer this one?
Posted by: wonderer at December 30, 2006 07:17 PM (Mi3x/)
Not that it matters, but hanging is one of the most merciful, painless, and error-free forms of execution. The body feels no pain, and doesn't fly into the violent convulsions caused by lethal injection.
Hussein got off easy, especially in a sadistic place like the Middle East.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 30, 2006 08:34 PM (abVz3)
While you're busy killing all the sunnis, you can kill all the leftist trolls along with them.
Dick breath.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 30, 2006 08:46 PM (abVz3)
Why for you compare us to those guys?
YARGHRAARTHBTT!!!
Posted by: Taz at December 30, 2006 10:09 PM (v5fbO)
Posted by: Bugs Bunny at December 30, 2006 10:10 PM (v5fbO)
Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 31, 2006 04:53 AM (2OHpj)
wake up smell the coffee
Posted by: faz at December 31, 2006 10:29 AM (/qBYe)
since 2003 bush and blair have killed over half a million in iraq when do they see the rope? i hope soon death to bush and blair thats only fair
Posted by: feraz younas at December 31, 2006 10:37 AM (/qBYe)
Hanging was way to short for him. Too bad, he couldn't stick around for the end of the trial for the Kurdish villagers that he slain. I wonder what they would have given him then? A gas chamber?
Posted by: sav at December 31, 2006 12:11 PM (paZgD)
Are you sure it's only half a million? I heard on the next Lancet Report, they've revised it to be half a Gazilion, Billion, based on knocking on doors in Iraq and asking them if anyone has died.
Posted by: davec at December 31, 2006 12:15 PM (yaQM4)
To give you a little enlightenment, of why polling Iraqi's about their losses is a bad idea to get a grip of how many people are killed, is the fact that Iraqi's unlike the west live in tight-knit family/friend type communities.
knock on door #1 "who has died in your family in the occupation?"
My nephew
knock on door #21 who has died in your family in the occupation?"
My Son
If door #1, and #21 are brothers, they are referring to the same person.
Then there is the fact that Arabs love to exaggerate.
Posted by: davec at December 31, 2006 12:22 PM (yaQM4)
i don't think you understand the reason they killed saddam one ov the reason was that he was killing his own people to get his way! Are not bush and blair doing the same thing? Our soildiers for oil!!!! think use ur head
Posted by: feraz younas at December 31, 2006 01:00 PM (/qBYe)
Yes, all that lovely Oil, the fact that it would have been cheaper to have purchased all of the Oil at fair market rate, than the Iraq war has cost so far, must be quite a conundrum for you.
Are you sure it isn't just a Jewish plot? conjured up by Sharon from his base in the center of the earth?
Posted by: davec at December 31, 2006 02:07 PM (yaQM4)
True that Arabs love to exaggerate, but what about those WMDs that Iraq was going to wipe out the world with? If the latter is not the mother of all exaggerations I don't know what is.
Following your logic, given that Arabs exaggerate then the number of people that Sadam killed has been exaggerated.
How many Americans and Iraqi's did Sadam kill? How many did Bush kill? When's the next trial?
Posted by: juniper at December 31, 2006 03:17 PM (S8Hhn)
Yes -Saddam was a meglomaniac and the world is better off without him.
Yes -our invasion of Iraq has been a disaster which has made America less safe and given the terriorists much greater justification for recruiting more foot soldiers.
No -he didn't have WMD.
No -he wasn't part of 9/11.
No -Saddam's execution is a poor substitute for Osama's execution.
No -Saddam's execution is NOT worth the life of my buddies dying and brain damaged and legless on the streets of a country that doesn't want to be pushed around by us honkies.
Yes -If some bully country invaded the US I would be an insurgent, I would be planting bombs to chase out the invaders, I would be giving my life to chase out the feckers. Wouldn't you?
Yes - George Bush is a cheese headed stump of a castrated pig.
Yes -Saddam is dead, we won that battle, but we are losing the war on terrorism.
Posted by: bran michael at December 31, 2006 03:33 PM (ycU6h)
You is dum. Bush and Blair no be killed because them is not genocidal criminals.
Saddam am in Hell with fake Prophet Muhammad.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 05:42 PM (abVz3)
Where's the oil Bush took? You're right. We don't understand, becuase you're an idiot.
I guess we missed the the part where Bush gassed Mormons, drilled holes in children, ripped out tongues, raped women, and threw people to the dogs. American soldiers die in battle, not under Bush's Chief minister of torture and pain.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 05:48 PM (abVz3)
Arabs love to lie. Who exagerrated about WMD? (WMD is plural, by the way.) Bush told the American people exactly what every intelligence agency on Earth told him.
You might want to explain the WMD that were found, and the New York Times' assertion that Hussein was hard at work on his WMD program--which is exactly what the President said. We all know you moonbats treat the New Dork Times as the leftist Gospel.
Give up the "Bush lied, people died," bullshit. Only the terminally stupid believe that. (You look like you're about to drop any minute now.)
Following your logic, if nobody exagerrated about WMD, then nobody exagerrated about Hussein's death toll.
How many people does Hussein have to have killed before you pretend to give a shit? Bush doesn't murder his fellow citizens, you vicious harpy. Why don't you tell us how many terrorists he's killed, and see if we cry about it?
If you don't like the way the commander in chief prosecutes the mission in Iraq, tough shit. You aren't the President. Only a mindless cunt would equate Bush with Hussein and demand he be tried for fictional crimes.
If stupidity were a crime, you would be serving a life sentence.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 06:03 PM (abVz3)
Just a note to unthinking, reactionary projectionists:
Yes -Saddam was a genocidal monster and the world is better off without him.
Yes -our invasion of Iraq has been more sucessful than the prosecution of WWII, has made America safer and hasn't affected the terriorists excuse for recruiting more foot soldiers to go be killed while trying to slaughter innocent Iraqis.
Yes -he did have WMD, although that wasn't why he was overthrown.
Nobody claimed he was part of 9/11.
Saddam's execution is not a substitute for Osama's execution, and it was not carried out by America. (No doubt Bin Loser will be collared in due course now that the mighty, terrorist killing Dhimmiecrats have taken Congress.)
No -Saddam's execution was NOT offered in place of your fictional buddies dying and brain damaged and legless on the streets of a country of Arab honkies (Arabs are White, you racist ignoramus,) that desperately wants America to stay until it is able to handle things on its own.
No -If some muslim country invaded the US you would'nt be an "insurgent," (check a dictionary, retard,) you would be pissing your pants and collaborating with the invaders against the country you hate, you would be giving up your mother's life to save your own worthless ass.. but I wouldn't.
Yes -islamopithecines have travelled from around the world to help in Iraq--to help kill Iraqis.
No -the terrorists are not "insurgents," and yes, Iraq is beging America to stay until the job is done.
Yes - you are a cheese headed stump of a castrated pig (whatever that is.)
Yes -Saddam is dead, we won that battle, the terrorists are being snuffed at a rate of more than 100 per day.
Yes, you are an irredeemable piece of tratorous filth who gives aid and comfort to his country's enemies. You're also amazingly stupid and ineffective.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 31, 2006 06:23 PM (abVz3)
If you wasn't some sort of rabid batshit crazy, shemale pacifist hippy, you might recall there were more than WMD given as a reason to invade Iraq, I know you lefties like to 'reinvent' History, but here is little snippets from Bush's U.N speech, 12 September 2002:
n 1991, Security Council Resolution 688 demanded that the Iraqi regime cease at once the repression of its own people, including the systematic repression of minorities -- which the Council said, threatened international peace and security in the region. This demand goes ignored.
Last year, the U.N. Commission on Human Rights found that Iraq continues to commit extremely grave violations of human rights, and that the regime's repression is all pervasive. Tens of thousands of political opponents and ordinary citizens have been subjected to arbitrary arrest and imprisonment, summary execution, and torture by beating and burning, electric shock, starvation, mutilation, and rape. Wives are tortured in front of their husbands, children in the presence of their parents -- and all of these horrors concealed from the world by the apparatus of a totalitarian state.
What part of that was untrue, moonbat? moving on:
In 1991, the U.N. Security Council, through Resolutions 686 and 687, demanded that Iraq return all prisoners from Kuwait and other lands. Iraq's regime agreed. It broke its promise. Last year the Secretary General's high-level coordinator for this issue reported that Kuwait, Saudi, Indian, Syrian, Lebanese, Iranian, Egyptian, Bahraini, and Omani nationals remain unaccounted for -- more than 600 people. One American pilot is among them.
again?
In 1991, the U.N. Security Council, through Resolution 687, demanded that Iraq renounce all involvement with terrorism, and permit no terrorist organizations to operate in Iraq. Iraq's regime agreed. It broke this promise. In violation of Security Council Resolution 1373, Iraq continues to shelter and support terrorist organizations that direct violence against Iran, Israel, and Western governments. Iraqi dissidents abroad are targeted for murder. In 1993, Iraq attempted to assassinate the Emir of Kuwait and a former American President. Iraq's government openly praised the attacks of September the 11th. And al Qaeda terrorists escaped from Afghanistan and are known to be in Iraq.
It is a known fact that Saddam supported terror:
http://www.husseinandterror.com/ there you can see copies of checks he sent to the families of suicide bombers, and terrorists like Abu Nidal who actually lived in a house provided by Iraqi security services, before he committed suicide by shooting himself multiple times in the head, shortly before the American invasion, anyway we soldier on:
Look we finally get to the WMD, after the three resolutions he cited as being broken already:
n 1991, the Iraqi regime agreed to destroy and stop developing all weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles, and to prove to the world it has done so by complying with rigorous inspections. Iraq has broken every aspect of this fundamental pledge.
This is a fact, not only were inspectors kicked out, but Saddam failed to prove he did not have a WMD program.
From 1991 to 1995, the Iraqi regime said it had no biological weapons. After a senior official in its weapons program defected and exposed this lie, the regime admitted to producing tens of thousands of liters of anthrax and other deadly biological agents for use with Scud warheads, aerial bombs, and aircraft spray tanks. U.N. inspectors believe Iraq has produced two to four times the amount of biological agents it declared, and has failed to account for more than three metric tons of material that could be used to produce biological weapons. Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.
So using the United Nations as evidence.
United Nations' inspections also revealed that Iraq likely maintains stockpiles of VX, mustard and other chemical agents, and that the regime is rebuilding and expanding facilities capable of producing chemical weapons.
And in 1995, after four years of deception, Iraq finally admitted it had a crash nuclear weapons program prior to the Gulf War. We know now, were it not for that war, the regime in Iraq would likely have possessed a nuclear weapon no later than 1993.
Those United Nations people sound like jingoist's making the case for war!
The United States has no quarrel with the Iraqi people; they've suffered too long in silent captivity. Liberty for the Iraqi people is a great moral cause, and a great strategic goal. The people of Iraq deserve it; the security of all nations requires it. Free societies do not intimidate through cruelty and conquest, and open societies do not threaten the world with mass murder. The United States supports political and economic liberty in a unified Iraq.
You guys are so bat shit crazy, you don't even realize that there was more issues involved than WMD.
Just like the moonbats that claim the World Trade Center didn't fall because of fire, ignoring the Airplane impacts, you moonbats claim the only reason was WMD, and ignore President Bush gave numerous United Nations resolutions violated, along with the WMD as the reason for the Iraq war.
Posted by: davec at December 31, 2006 06:43 PM (yaQM4)
Posted by: Tom at December 31, 2006 11:29 PM (uznVJ)
when you do this to other people you will be in hell in the last judgement. "It works..."
Posted by: Kevnjch at December 31, 2006 11:43 PM (uznVJ)
Posted by: Max Power at December 31, 2006 11:53 PM (PM8kH)
Posted by: Pinto at January 01, 2007 01:11 AM (LuiJZ)
Posted by: Pinto at January 01, 2007 01:14 AM (LuiJZ)
In case you hadn't noticed, there's a bit of a difference between celebrating a single death and actually killing a million people under horrific circumstances.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 01, 2007 01:40 AM (abVz3)
I'm sure the relatives of families Saddam had tortured to death would enjoy having their tax dollars pay to take care of him for life.
Then again, probably not.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 01, 2007 01:42 AM (abVz3)
As far as I know, nobody here executed Saddam. I doubt we're going to go to Hell for watching the video. Besides, the Bible doesn't claim that men go to Hell for enforcing just laws.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 01, 2007 01:47 AM (abVz3)
Posted by: usmcshooter at January 01, 2007 05:39 AM (fqLSZ)
to this man. I hope that Saddam's friends will be executed in a same
way
Wow. The makes a whole heck of a lot of sense! These are the braniac Lefties we keep hearing about? LOL.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 01, 2007 11:28 AM (8e/V4)
Posted by: feraz younas at January 01, 2007 08:35 PM (/qBYe)
Posted by: sandpiper at January 01, 2007 09:30 PM (2cLBb)
Calling a woman a 'mindless cunt' for having the audacity to express opinions you take issue with - nice form! You're a real credit to the people of your mind-set - congratulations!
After perusing your finely crafted postings, I have to hand it to you... you have an exceptional proclivity for generalizing. 'Arabs love to lie', and, 'Bush told the American people exactly what every intelligence agency on Earth told him' (are you privy to what every intelligence agency on Earth told him? I didn't know that members of the general public were allowed admittance to intelligence briefings given to the President - or perhaps you are a secret member of GB's Cabinet?!), are but two exceptionally bold statements proffered as irrefutable fact. People who say things you don't agree with are, 'rabidly anti-American moonbats' (In future missives, may I suggest that you always include a hyphen when calling someone a 'moon-bat' - it will help lessen your embarrassment quotient... which would be extremely high at this point I imagine, even by, say, middle-school-level standards... You want children, and dim-witted adults, to laugh WITH you - not AT you).
Yes you generalize, and spew right-wing-style dogma (with the best of them), as if reading from a manual - while accusing people you've determined to be 'leftists' of doing the very same thing. UNMITIGATED, BLATANT HYPOCRISY, of which you are completely oblivious to!! It's astoundingly refreshing to see the work of someone so self-unaware, so willing to expose oneself in print nowadays - good on you! Then there's the bold quote: 'While you're busy killing all the sunnis, you can kill all the leftist trolls along with them. Dick breath.' You leave yourself naked to anyone with an I.Q. over 78 with that statement - what a wonderfully unsupervised little intellect you have! It's like a toddler in a playpen - with a machine gun!
It would not surprise me in the slightest - if at some point in time - you've proudly proclaimed yourself, "A Ditto-Head"... thus including yourself with the most blindly-stupid chattel in the last thirty-five years. Doing research for future missives perhaps?! You sly dog... Even a complete fool knows that people who profess to be "Ditto-Heads" are essentially saying, "Whatever Rush says, I just say, "Ditto" to - I don't have to think for myself... I just say "Ditto", while Rush does all the thinking"! Rush is right about everything anyway! (ha ha...)."
We both know that those types of people make for the easiest targets in the political landscape. Obviously, it's THEM and their sheep-head, think-alikes that should be in Iraq, making up the cannon fodder. Why I'm sure that an army of "Ditto-Heads" would whip that country into shape in no time. Meanwhile, for those of us who are 4F - fat and comfortable - there is a war to be waged here, at home, for the hearts and minds of the populous. Imagine... if the two of us CONVINCED two women that they were 'mindless cunts' a day for a week, and those two convinced two of their friends that they were 'mindless cunts' a day, and so on, and so on - we'd have the entire female portion of this great country believing that they were 'mindless cunts' in a matter of weeks... unless somebody disagreed with us somewhere along the way...... Shit... Well, you can deal with that variable by becoming more entrenched and strident...
Anyway, I don't have to tell you the importance of this shouting down of women to the war effort... Hell - it's your brainstorm!
To the best of my knowledge, there is no left-wing wind-bag urging people to call themselves "Ditto-Heads" - nor any independently minded person that I know of who would ever consider calling themselves anything so feeble as a "Ditto-Head" - yet I see "Ditto-Head", and "I'm with Rush" bumper stickers festooned on the ass-ends of cars everywhere around this nation. I wonder if they are really stupid enough to believe what that propagandizing charlatan says, or if they are simply addicted to Oxycontin - and are advertising for a fix...?
No matter to you... the fact is the machinery is in place, and you have demonstrated that you will run your mouth unbridled - given the slightest perceived provocation. Therefore, I think you should push ahead with "Operation Mindless Cunt" (pardon my presumption here - perhaps you wish to change the name to something worse) post haste! Also, you should continue to persist - as if robotic-ally - in calling those who oppose your views, 'mindless', 'stupid', 'moonbats' (sic) - in effect brainless morons, or "sheep". You see, I've heard it suggested that people who hate the Right-Wing's strident, boring, easy-to-ignore, generalizing dogma could possibly build a substantial case that "Ditto-Heads" (hell, anyone spewing right-wing dogma) are stupid "sheep" as well. This is why you need to step up the rhetoric - louder and faster - an out-and-out blitzkrieg!
I humbly suggest that you put some more creativity, some more oomph (if you will) into your future missives. Something like this might work on an angry man like you for example: Is it true that GW's dick is as tiny as has been reported by the women he used to snort coke and whore with while his daddy was Mayor McCheese? You must know - as you have obviously been sucking it for some time now. And as long as we're on the subject of cock-sucking - how much does it cost to have a couple of ribs removed so you can suck your own dick? You've doubtless been spending lots of time engaged in that activity as well - I can't imagine any man, woman or animal that would freely perform that act on someone so obviously filled with as much self-loathing as you have within you... you wretched, undoubtedly ugly, shit-eating maggot... By the way, your mother asked me to ask you to stop coming into her room to fuck her in the ass each night - and I saw you're _________ (enter name of wife, daughter, whichever causes the most desire to kill) on the internet last night. She was taking it up the ass by a guy packing a huge crank, while taking it in the snatch by another. She was also sucking one, and holding two others - making for a grand total of 5 dicks she was handling at once. At the end of the clip, they all spewed into her mouth...
Do you see what I mean? You need attacks that pack more of a punch - anyone can call a woman a 'cunt', or a guy a motherfucker, or prick. Those words have become clichés in the modern lexicon. Let your mind flow. You may have it in you to be much more of a disgusting wretch than you already are - and women who dare deviate from the right-wing party line need to be verbally assaulted immediately. Tender sensibilities have no place in your new world order - you know that - and the power of a swiftly delivered 'mindless cunt' can crush those sensibilities before they can become something positive.
Now remember - I'm here to help. You end your note posted December 31, 2006 06:03 PM with somewhat of a low-brow, one-liner, (remember - this is constructive criticism) 'If stupidity were a crime, you would be serving a life sentence.' To that I add this aside: 'If semi-illiteracy were a crime, you would be serving time.' The word 'exagerrated' (as you spelled it three times throughout you above mentioned posting) is actually spelled, 'exaggerated'. Remember your sixth-grade speller - we wouldn't want anyone to think that you are a shit-for-brains!
I'm certainly glad I'm not a 'leftist' - I've voted independent all my life. And no one can call me 'Anti-American' either - I've spent my time defending this country. I'm simply writing, inspired by the cause. When I read that a man is calling a woman a 'mindless cunt' for expressing her opinions in this land of free speech, I figure it's my duty to come help keep this indispensable type of inspired dialog flowing - and to help stifle things out, if necessary.
Did I say 'stifle'?! I meant straighten...
Good golly - what a malapropism... I'm blushing...
Posted by: Your Shadow at January 02, 2007 03:19 AM (guae3)
The fact that your gov sent the troops to Iraq only for protecting the oil private business not for US pride? Now you blame the destroyed humvee and thousands dead soldiers to Saddam? What was Saadam do were to protect his country against colonialism. You guys
Plz Don't make your mind confused.
Posted by: noan at January 02, 2007 03:54 AM (po7+i)
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Posted by: stephanie at January 02, 2007 11:37 AM (uS2ag)
You must be one of the many sophisticated Liberals that I hear we should put in charge to change the United States, your logic is outstanding!
You:Calling a woman a 'mindless cunt' for having the audacity to express opinions you take issue with - nice form! You're a real credit to the people of your mind-set - congratulations!
[...] later in your post:
You:
And as long as we're on the subject of cock-sucking - how much does it cost to have a couple of ribs removed so you can suck your own dick?
[...]
By the way, your mother asked me to ask you to stop coming into her room to fuck her in the ass each night - and I saw you're _________ (enter name of wife, daughter, whichever causes the most desire to kill) on the internet last night. She was taking it up the ass by a guy packing a huge crank, while taking it in the snatch by another. She was also sucking one, and holding two others - making for a grand total of 5 dicks she was handling at once. At the end of the clip, they all spewed into her mouth...
So I am to assume you're venomous screed is because you agree with him? or otherwise didn't you just commit the very 'sin' you accused him of:
Calling a woman a 'mindless cunt' for having the audacity to express opinions you take issue with
You probably need to get a prescription.
Posted by: davec at January 02, 2007 02:57 PM (yaQM4)
Sin?
Nowhere in my note did I characterize what Bargholz said was a sin - neither do I think I sinned any more than you did by reprinting mine and Bargholz’s “dirty†words. But that’s me - do you think that practicing free speech is a ‘sin’? Are you some sort of fascist or something?
My goal was simple: to help Bargholze improve his verbalizing skills - whilst shouting down women - by providing an improved, more elaborate example of a response to an offending point of view. I wrote my example so as to be something that he could understand on a visceral level - as I imagine a woman would, being called a ‘mindless cunt’.
By the way, you can call me a liberal all you want - the fact is, I’m not. If I were prone to generalizing - as Bargholze certainly is - I might say that right-wingers seem to be quick to categorize anyone who challenges them (in any fashion - purposefully or not) as “Liberalâ€. It’s unimaginable that a person could think for oneself - isn’t it?
Posted by: Your Shadow at January 02, 2007 05:37 PM (guae3)
Your post did nothing to address the issue that I pointed out, that being your own hypocrisy -- but you did manage to throw in a reference to me being a 'fascist', what a great smokescreen for avoiding the issue that was. Bravo.
Posted by: davec at January 02, 2007 07:40 PM (yaQM4)
Posted by: Donald Fjog at January 02, 2007 08:48 PM (/QQd9)
Hilarious the way you use your misunderstanding of my postings to serve your ends - outstanding even! Went right over your head yet again...
Yes, you unwittingly have several of the rudimentary skills requisite to becoming a fascist-style propaganda minister - in the Joseph Goebbels’ mode - it’s true... With a lot of diligent work, someday you may even be able to communicate on the level of (dare I say it...) Bargholz himself!
The fact that you seem delighted that you’ve exposed me as a ‘hypocrite’, given the subject-matter provided in my original missive to Bargholz (who threw down the gauntlet by calling a woman a ‘mindless cunt’) serves to expose you as the unrelenting moron that you are. I’ve given you two chances - time’s up...
You think that calling me a hypocrite is some kind of revelation?! I’ve got news for you, brainiac: WE’RE ALL FUCKING HYPOCRITES - EVERY HUMAN ON THIS PLANET, AT LEAST AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER! That was one of the noteworthy points intertwined within my missive to Bargholz in the first place - but unfortunately, things have to be spelled out for you in crayon, don’t they Davek?
Shit, I was looking for some fun - but at this point, you are even more boring than Burgholz was. Neither of you are worth the distraction... I therefore leave the vitriol we’ve engendered with you. Go ahead, get the last word in - I won’t be visiting this site again, so I won’t see it. Better yet, get someone else to write for you - someone with the ability to see beneath the superficial...
Are you done looking up superficial in the dictionary yet? Let’s continue then...
As for the stupidity, the cow-tail mindlessness, the spewing of clichés, the utter lack of originality - I leave those elements back where they originated from... with you and your crony Bargholz (who doesn’t even have the balls to stick up for himself against me apparently. Perhaps his balls are in your mouth - ba doomp boomp!).
You see, you’re both too easy - and I’m unwilling to invest any more time trying to educate the terminally dim... Verbal sparring with you puny, self-loathing troglodytes is unfulfilling - to say the least.
So have fun with your hatred and “Ditto-Head†idiocy - do your worst with your stupidity to the fellow inhabitants of this planet you find objectionable! Left unchecked, my bet is that you’ll lead yourselves to ruin trying... Hatred is a dangerous element...
God bless you - fucking hypocrite! Huzzah!
Posted by: Your Shadow at January 02, 2007 09:11 PM (guae3)
It's good to give facts when making a political point. Unfortunately that is something the media refuses to give our citizens 95% of the time...well-rounded facts not based on opinion or political swagger. It's hard to see the truth through all of the agendas. So for those of you who can actually quote history and truth to give everyone else the bigger picture, bravo to you!
My husband and I were talking about how much money our country could be saving by taking Iraq's lead and putting to death those who are sentenced to it within a thirty day period. HELLO. Tax dollars much? Anyone have any facts on how much it costs you and I to keep an inmate alive for 20 years while he waits to get gassed?
I'm all for giving someone an opportunity to come clean and repent for their mistakes, but why prolong something that will inevitably happen when that money could go towards getting our own people off the streets? Don't you think Americans would think twice about committing heinous crimes if they knew they were risking death within 30 days?
Posted by: LL at January 02, 2007 10:12 PM (0ISIv)
Personally, I think that he is now in a better place for us who still walk this earth. The planet isn't big enough for the pure evil that people like Saddam possess. Also Bush and Blair are also to blame for part of the suffering that goes on. The only difference between Saddam Bush and Blair is that the latter two manage to do their bidding while using their power and corruption as protection. Saddam only had his brainwashed cranks. (Although Bush and Blair supporters are often found to be brainwashed cranks also.).
To sum it up, he is dead but it doesnt change a thing. More people will die and be tortured etc. The only way to get on with the world properly is to let people who care and arent red neck imbreds rule the world.
Ent...
Posted by: Entemol at January 03, 2007 02:28 AM (kCdx+)
Personally, I think that he is now in a better place for us who still walk this earth. The planet isn't big enough for the pure evil that people like Saddam possess. Also Bush and Blair are also to blame for part of the suffering that goes on. The only difference between Saddam Bush and Blair is that the latter two manage to do their bidding while using their power and corruption as protection. Saddam only had his brainwashed cranks. (Although Bush and Blair supporters are often found to be brainwashed cranks also.).
To sum it up, he is dead but it doesnt change a thing. More people will die and be tortured etc. The only way to get on with the world properly is to let people who care and arent red neck imbreds rule the world.
Ent...
Posted by: Entemol at January 03, 2007 02:28 AM (kCdx+)
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Posted by: whitey at January 03, 2007 12:22 PM (BojBe)
Let me simply surmise your talking point:
You're a Hitler, Sir, a fucking jackbooted Jew stomping Hitler! (what other thing can I throw in to avoid answering)
Yawn -- and surprise you're never coming back, enjoy your "victory" with a congratulatory wank, I'm sure you keep the Kleenex and Lotion next to the monitor.
Posted by: davec at January 03, 2007 12:51 PM (yaQM4)
saddam = dead? =)
finally, after one man took lives from
thousands of other, he himself has his
life
take away.
sounds kind of nice to hear, actually.
signed:__ very pleased
Posted by: very pleased at January 03, 2007 04:24 PM (fokKw)
saddam = dead? =)
finally, after one man took lives from
thousands of other, he himself has his
life
take away.
sounds kind of nice to hear, actually.
signed:__ very pleased
Posted by: very pleased at January 03, 2007 04:24 PM (fokKw)
saddam = dead? =)
finally, after one man took lives from
thousands of other, he himself has his
life
take away.
sounds kind of nice to hear, actually.
signed:__ very pleased
Posted by: very pleased at January 03, 2007 04:24 PM (fokKw)
Posted by: missy at January 03, 2007 04:27 PM (fokKw)
After reading all of your posts it's clear that hatred is still alive and well.
As a Canadian I'd just like to say that I'm sitting here wondering, would the U.S maybe be better off, if instead of spending all those billions pissing everyone in the middle east off (the one's you're not killing anyway) you could teach more people to spell!
No- I'm not a liberal
No- I didn't finish high school, and I don't need you to correct my grammar and spelling
Yes- I think you leader is a dangerous man who is making my world a more dangerous place to live for generations to come.
Just a freindly neighbor having a little fun. Let the venomous right wing rants begin.
Posted by: Canuck at January 03, 2007 04:47 PM (D1kZe)
Canuck:
Well speaking for myself, I doubt there is anything the US government could do to try and improve my spelling that I'm not already doing.
When I was a kid I went to regional spelling bees, and did pretty good. I had dyslexia, even then, but I could handle it. I tried to write a number of things that never got accepted, and then a few years back I had double pneumonia, and a hundred and four fever. I took baths in ice cold water, and hallucinated. Weeks passed, I 'recoverd' but would fall over if I didn't use visual references to tell me which way was up. Also I lost control of my dyslexia enough that I thought I might never try to write again.
Now I practice on the Jawa Report. I still make mistakes, especially when I'm tired, but my confidence is returning, and so the rest gets easier. But my spelling isn't as important as the 14 centuries of Jihad, or the lingering cult of Marxism, that threaten freedom tody.
Sure, I hate Saddam. So what? I hate lots of evil people. At least my hatred was formed during my adult years. In the middle East hate is being forced into children who are only three years old! We are not pissing off these people. they are brainwashing their own children to hate, and kill, and die for Allah.
I have seen a lot of the news about Sharia in Canada, and you don't want it there if you love liberty. Show your "true patriot love" and keep it out of your country. It is totalitarianism. God keep your land "glorious and free!"
USA, all the way!
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Posted by: iavdu hlrpbmt at May 22, 2007 07:34 PM (OMXcu)
December 26, 2006
AP Via Yahoo: The sentence "must be implemented within 30 days," chief judge Aref Shahin said. "From tomorrow, any day could be the day of implementation."The Baath party, in Novemeber and most likely from Syria, issued a statement threatening retaliation of Saddam is executed.On Nov. 5, an Iraqi court sentenced Saddam to the gallows for ordering the 1982 killings following an attempt on his life.
Under Iraqi law, the appeals court decision must be ratified by President Jalal Talabani and Iraq's two vice presidents. Talabani opposes the death penalty but has in the past deputized a vice president to sign an execution order on his behalf — a substitute that was legally accepted.
Iraq Updates.com: "If president Saddam Hussein is executed ... the party will reinforce its siege against the Green Zone," which houses Iraqi government offices and the US embassy, said the party's command on its official site.Hat Tip: Vinnie.
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Posted by: Frank Hunter at December 26, 2006 01:35 PM (JGiPv)
Wonder if this will be on the list of discussion topics.
Preening pompous morons.
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Posted by: Howie at December 26, 2006 01:47 PM (YdcZ0)
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Posted by: James Jay Fistro at December 26, 2006 02:54 PM (DCZ7U)
It should be no wonder to anyone that Saddam was so happy to kill target groups of Iraqi civilians. The Baath party was little more than a Nazi party for Arabs. Hitler was even seen in a positive light by its membership.
There are many connections between the worst of modern Arab extremeism, and the grand fascists of Europe. I do not doubt that the Baathists have another Saddam hiding inside their political cult, ready to do his worst if they ever regain enough power.
So by all means. Whack the dirty bastard Saddam, then 'lock and load' for his 'Nazi' pals.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 26, 2006 03:12 PM (2OHpj)
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Posted by: jack at December 26, 2006 11:05 PM (aitZQ)
Wait a minute ...
Posted by: Eastsider at December 26, 2006 11:32 PM (LxyIe)
James Gay Fisthole may not be the only leftist troll. Alan reads like a troll too. The Iraqis disagree with your tendentious comment, Alan. Hussein's execution will have lasting repercussions throughout Iraq and the larger islamopitheicine world. I think you're trying to snow people with your wishful thinking.
Leastsider:
Marx my propaganda: If this execution is carried out, civilized America will have a higher murder rate than the "hopeless civil war" in Iraq.
Wait a minute....
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 27, 2006 12:38 AM (abVz3)
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 27, 2006 03:37 PM (LxyIe)
Either that, or you're a homosexual stalker who wants to indulge his foot fetish on my toenails.
Either way, you apparently cant ignore me. Slipping your lisping little impersonations into old threads is an especially weak touch.
Fuck off, you America-last coward.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 28, 2006 01:42 AM (abVz3)
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Posted by: Greyrooster at December 28, 2006 09:23 PM (mz2uK)
Using a real man's identity doesn't make you a man. The closest you've come to a man was the last time you got a reach-around.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 28, 2006 10:58 PM (abVz3)
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Posted by: Dwight at May 01, 2007 02:50 AM (1p6Z9)
February 12, 2006
From Reuters.com:
Saddam Hussein and the seven co-defendants in his trial are to start a hunger strike on Monday, the former Iraqi president's defense team said on Sunday, citing sources inside the detention center where they are being held.Frankly, the idea of strapping the murdering thug to a gurney and shoving a feeding tube through his nose and down his esophagus doesn't elicit my sympathy. In fact, I'd recommend that the authorities be innovative in force-feeding Saddam and try a new technique. A gnarly tube through the brokeback might work."Saddam and his followers will start a hunger strike from tomorrow, protesting the illegitimate procedures and bad treatment by the court," Khamis al-Aubeidi, a leading member of Saddam's defense team, told Reuters.
Nevertheless, the hunger strike is nicely timed to coincide with continuation of the trial which was interrupted two weeks ago when the defense team walked out of the courtroom and protested the new judge. Since then, Saddam has whined about being abused by prison guards. It appears that Saddam and his co-defendents are trying to do everything possible to disrupt the trial "to fuel concerns about the legitimacy of the tribunal and its eventual verdict."
From Interested-Participant.
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Posted by: sandpiper at February 12, 2006 02:02 PM (08Fdo)
If it wasn't for Leftists Saddam and his lawyers would never conceive such a show. But he's now the victim, protesting even for sympathy, his rights.
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Posted by: J Rob at February 12, 2006 06:06 PM (ujBa4)
OT: Wonder how Mr. Cheney could do with one of those? "He stuck it in his eye man!"
Posted by: forest hunter at February 12, 2006 06:30 PM (Fq6zR)
I'm with youngbourbonprofessional, i don't see the problem.
Posted by: MathewK at February 12, 2006 07:15 PM (pVHqF)
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Posted by: CUS at February 13, 2006 09:59 AM (bbXZq)
Lawyer retracts Saddam hunger strike
BAGHDAD: The troubled trial of Saddam Hussein was hit by fresh confusion on Sunday when his chief defence lawyer said the former Iraqi leader planned to go on hunger strike, but then retracted his statement minutes later.
Posted by: George Sturges at February 13, 2006 11:45 AM (UuQLU)
Posted by: hondo at February 13, 2006 05:47 PM (fyKFC)
December 07, 2005
If you find yourself getting lost in Saddam's antics, or Ramsey Clark's bullshit, or the media fawning, come back to this post and click below the fold for a dose of reality.
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btw, did you know that the Iranian cargo jet crash the other day was America's fault? You'd know if you listened to NPR.
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ben franlin
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Posted by: hondo at December 08, 2005 03:03 PM (3aakz)
December 05, 2005
See? Anyway, that was an unimportant point, as I have NES flashbacks constantly. Beyond that, I came to a startling conclusion. We MUST save Saddam Hussein. We cannot let him die. His DNA is too important to piss away, especially since his sons met a far nobler end (well, as noble as perishing in a shootout with a teenage boy in your company can be).
But why must Saddam live?
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Posted by: slug at December 05, 2005 06:49 PM (DbAnU)
I always liked Soda Popinski. Once I saw him, I knew the Soviets could never win the Cold War. I mean, come on, Super Macho Man (from Hollywood, with moving man-boobs) was ahead of Soda in the rankings. Ah, the subtle lessons Punch Out taught us.... capitalism will always triumph!
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Posted by: Agent Smith at December 06, 2005 06:17 AM (VX7Tm)
March 02, 2005

Over 100 judges are working on various cases against former Hussein regime members. At least five former Saddam Hussein regime members have already been charged with 'crimes against humanity'.
This is further evidence that a key component of the insurgency is in Saddam Hussein loyalists. As reported here earlier yesterday, the Baathist party has been revised and is now working with jihadis to overthrow democratic rule in Iraq. more...
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Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at March 02, 2005 09:24 PM (PEKrh)
Power to the people! Down with puppet masters and their puppets.
NT Hypocri C
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