Another Radical Imam at Islamic Center of Cleveland
(Cleveland, Ohio) Readers may recall from 2004, the imam of the Islamic Center of Cleveland, Fawaz Damra, was convicted of lying to federal authorities on his citizenship application. Damra failed to disclose his support and fundraising for the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a recognized terrorist organization. As a consequence, Damra was deported.
This week, the Islamic Center of Cleveland announced that a permanent replacement for Damra has been hired. According to David Briggs of the Plain Dealer:
Imam Ahmed Alzaree, an Egyptian-born cleric who led a mosque in Omaha, Neb., for the past five years until his contract expired in July, will join the Islamic Center of Cleveland Nov. 1, leaders of the mosque said.
They said Alzaree, 37, is a scholar whose strengths include working with young people.
Dr. Jalal Abu-Shaweesh, mosque president, said Alzaree should bring a "great deal of stability" to the Islamic Center.
Alzaree would not confirm his hiring, at one point saying he would not come to Cleveland because a reporter was inquiring about his background.
Interesting. Alzaree won't go to Cleveland because a reporter is asking questions. Which reporter isn't known. However, a query by Tom Blumer of BizzyBlog found a sermon that Alzaree gave at the Omaha Islamic Center in 2003 which contained the following.
“The hour of judgment shall not happen until the Muslims fight the Jews. The Muslims shall kill the Jews to the point that the Jew shall hide behind a big rock or a tree and the rock or tree shall call on the Muslim saying: hey, O Muslim there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him, except the Gharqad tree which will not say, for it is the tree of Jews."
Although there's no indication that Alzaree directly supports terrorism, it appears that he thinks like them.
Additionally, according to Patrick Poole of Ohioans Against Terror, Alzaree laments that Muslims are not receiving the "jizya" tax from non-Muslims as required by the Quran.
One must question Dr. Abu-Shaweesh's definition of a "great deal of stability." Since Alzaree promotes killing Jews and imposing taxes on non-Muslims, there's a great deal of something but it's not stability.
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Islamists Targeting Swedish Cartoonist, Firms
(Stockholm, Sweden) No surprise here, again the followers of the religion of peace and tolerance and diversity are furious about a cartoon.
Websites run by militant Islamists have listed the names of over 100 Swedish companies as possible targets in the ongoing row surrounding the publication in Swedish newspapers of a caricature of the Muslim prophet Muhammad.
Detailing the addresses, maps and logos of Swedish businesses, the websites called for their readers to boycott these firms and "take revenge" on Sweden for the publication of a controversial cartoon by artist Las Vilks.
The cartoon is a caricature of Muhammad as a "roundabout dog" and it was drawn to test the limits of art, says cartoonist Vilks.
A few days earlier, a bounty was offered for the death of Vilks.
An al-Qaeda front organization in Iraq, the self-proclaimed Islamic State in Iraq, issued a statement on the Internet on Saturday offering $150,000 to anyone who slit the throat of Lars Vilks, whose sketch depicted Muhammad as a dog.
It also offered $50,000 for the death of the editor-in-chief of the Nerikes Allehanda newspaper, Ulf Johansson, who published the caricature.
Additionally, the Swedish government has received formal complaints from Iran, Egypt and Pakistan. Naturally, the situation is being taken seriously by the government and Vilks is in hiding under police protection.
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Islamic Charity Funding Terror via Palestinian Universities
Patrick Poole of Central Ohioans Against Terrorism has exposed an Ohio-based Islamic group that is funneling money to HAMAS through Palestinian universities with apparent impunity.
Specifically, the not-for-profit group, Arab Student Aid International (ASAI), has pumped millions of dollars to the Islamic University of Gaza (IUG) which has been recognized by Congress as a fungible cash resource for HAMAS terror activities. U.S. public funds are barred from distribution to IUG. Nevertheless, private American sources continue to provide money to the IUG and other HAMAS-connected schools.
Now, since the government has shuttered the Holy Land Foundation and other Islamic "charities" for funding terrorist organizations, why has ASAI been allowed to continue to send money and assistance to HAMAS through the Palestinian universities?
In this regard, Congress only stopped public money, via the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), from going to IUG and other terrorist-connected schools, however, nothing specifically prohibits private American dollars from being sent and used to purchase suicide belts, AK-47s or Katyusha rockets..
Frankly, the issue of private funds being slithered through universities to terrorist organizations is news to me and I'm made to wonder how widespread the practice might be. For instance, is the U.S. providing funds for the Taliban through Pakistani and Afghan schools? Or, is Hezbollah getting U.S. dollars through Syrian or Lebanese universities? And what about Jemaah Islamiyah? Is it getting American cash through Indonesian or Malaysian universities?
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My Dad Went to Mecca and All He Got Me Was This Stupid ROP Linkfest
I'm back to work which means I have more time than ever reading up on news from the Religion of Peace. Aint academia grand?!?
Turkish Imams Seek Overtime Pay
(Istanbul, Turkey) It appears that the lure of a religious calling to Islam loses some of its luster when one is working 18 hours per day for poor pay. Therefore, the Muslim prayer leaders want to be paid overtime.
Some 70,000 government-paid preachers rose at 4am to begin the daily call to prayer and did not finish until midnight, said Huseyin Demirci, the head of Diva-Sen, one of the smaller clerics' unions representing 2000 imams.
Turkish public servants were paid overtime for exceeding a normal five-day, 40-hour week but imams, also government workers, were excluded, Mr Demirci said. In Sunni Islam, imams lead prayers five times a day, starting at dawn and often finishing late at night.
At $760 per month, imams are the lowest paid government workers in Turkey. For that amount, imams also have to keep their mosques squeaky clean. As a result of low pay for long hours, many Muslims consider the job a poor career choice and a reported 6,000 mosques lack an imam.
Logically, with a union representing tens of thousands of imams, they should be able to go on strike and deny the believers their five-a-day sermons. Right?
All in all, though, it appears that the actual conflict is not between the imams and the government, rather it's between Islam and money.
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Magazines Seized in Morocco
(Rabat, Morocco) Although Morocco is generally considered to have a greater degree of press freedom than other Arab world countries, by no means is it truly free.
Morocco's government has seized copies of two current affairs magazines containing articles which it said showed a lack of respect for King Mohammed and harmed public morals.
Ahmed Reda Benchemsi, editor of Tel Quel (As It Is) and its sister publication Nichane (Forthright), was called for questioning by Casablanca police late on Saturday under orders from the judiciary, the Interior Ministry said in a statement.
A reporter at Nichane, who asked not to be named, said Benchemsi had questioned the usefulness of parliamentary elections next month in a country where the monarchy wields ultimate power.
In his annual speech to the nation on July 30, the king said he hoped the September 7 polls would reinforce democracy, and he would oppose anyone who questioned their validity.
So, in some sort of twisted logic, the king will reinforce democracy by making sure that opposition voices are silenced. Soundsfamiliar.
Notably, this is not the first occasion that press freedom has been suppressed in Morocco. Last January, the editor-in-chief of Nichane, Driss Ksikes, and a journalist, Sanaa al-Aji, were tried and convicted for publishing jokes about Islam. Each was given a suspended sentence and fined over $9,000.
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Fatwa Bans Honor Killings
(Beirut, Lebanon) Grand Ayatollah Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah has spoken.
Lebanon's most senior Shia cleric issued on Thursday a fatwa, or religious edict, banning honour killings, calling the custom of murdering a female relative for sexual misconduct "a repulsive act".
There. That'll put an end to a practice that has been around for -- oh -- at least 1,000 years.
Realistically, though, the fatwa banning honor killings has to be considered the Muslim equivalent to Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" anti-drug message. Good idea but likely to be ignored by many people. In fact, the Grand Ayatollah only counts 1.2 million Shiites as his followers, leaving 99% of the world's Muslims not affected by his fatwa.
Nevertheless, it's a step in the right direction.
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Via The Daily Mail: A group of Muslims have opposed plans for a pet food factory to be built as possible pork emissions will violate their religious rights.
Butchers Pet Care could shelve plans for a factory in Coton Park, near Rugby, because angry Asian families have complained to their residents' association about pork smells drifting into their garden.
Muslim residents in the area also claim the pork will effectively "rain down" on their homes and gardens after the factory's 100ft chimney has pumped the meat extracts into the atmosphere.
The Coton Park Residential Association said they have received complaints from Muslims - who are directed to not eat pork by the Qur'an - and are taking the matter very seriously.
I suggest all non-Muslims protest the protest with a coordinated back yard hickory pork barbeque and beer bash. Ahh the sweet smell of boston butts roasting on a hickory fire. Mmmm, mmmm good. After the first few beers don't forget to yell, "Yeeeehaaaa!", or the British equivalent, really loud a few times, just for extra scaryness.
Islam Gains in Turkish Elections
(Ankara, Turkey) The Islamist-rooted Justice and Development (AK) Party, led by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan (pic), won a decisive majority of Turkish parliamentary seats in elections today. The unicameral Grand National Assembly has 550 parliamentarians and at least 340 will now be AK members chosen by 47% of the voters.
The Republican People's Party (CHP), billed as equivalent to the European Social Democrats, is the main opposition to the AK Party, winning at least 110 seats and 21% of the votes.
The Nationalist Movement Party (MHP), known for its "ultra-nationalism" and militancy, won at least 70 seats with about 15% of the votes.
Independent candidates, the Young Party (GP), the Democratic Left Party (DSP), the Motherland Party (ANAP), the True Path Party (DYP) and the Democrat Party (DP) didn't pick up enough votes to be a factor. Under Turkish parliamentary rules, a party must garner at least 10% of the votes cast to qualify for proportional representation.
Key Points:
- The Islamist-rooted AK Party gained in strength, setting the stage for increased tension between Muslims and the secular establishment with its powerful army ally.
- The decrease in secular influences and the likelihood of more religion-based government could delay membership in the European Union.
- Despite high hopes, it appears that insufficient votes were cast to increase the number of women in the Grand National Assembly above the 4.4% garnered in 2002. Since women's rights are set as a prerequisite to EU membership, the low level of female representation could be a deal-breaker. Currently, female illiteracy is around 20 percent, honour killings are common and only 72 percent of girls enroll in secondary school.
- The MHP and the CHP are overtly and tacitly supporting a growing nationalism movement which fosters opposition to EU membership while continuing to stoke the conflict with the Kurds.
- Encapsulated, the outcome of the election went swimmingly against snuggly relations with the EU and the West.
Over 33 million voters went to the polls out of 42.5 million registered to vote.
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Ayesha and the Prophet
Disputing the general belief that Prophet Mohammad married wife Ayesha at the age of nine, Adil Salahi of the Arab News provides an argument.
I have written at length discussing this issue and concluded that Ayesha was between 18 and 22 at the time of her marriage to the Prophet.
Relying on a series of convoluted explanations, Salahi concludes that anything else is "highly unlikely" and "totally unreasonable." Being unlikely and unreasonable apparently makes something untrue.
So, there. The issue should now be clear to everyone.
Also, since it is unlikely and unreasonable for two jetliners to crash into the World Trade Center Towers, it obviously didn't happen.
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Muslim Juror Arrested for MP3 Under Hajib
(London, England) Frankly, a person could hide many things under a hajib. However, it's not a good idea for a juror to be listening to an MP3 player during a high-profile murder case.
In what is considered the first case of its kind, the woman was arrested for contempt of court after another member of the jury passed a note revealing the indiscretion to the judge, Roger Chapple.
The judge - who previously suspected that he had heard "tinny music" in the background, but dismissed it as his imagination - called the woman into court on her own, and said: "You are going to be discharged from this jury. You will play no further role."
A police officer then stepped forward and escorted her from court. Outside the woman - who is in her 20s, but cannot be identified for legal reasons - was searched, the MP3 player was found and confiscated, and she was arrested. Contempt of court carries a maximum sentence of an unlimited fine and indefinite imprisonment.
The woman involved was a problem juror for the court. She repeatedly tried to avoid jury duty and, when she was finally selected and seated, she couldn't show up on time. Also, some individuals in court were concerned about her lack of interest and participation. With the MP3 incident, she now has a court date of her own on July 23rd.
Regarding what she was listening to? I'm guessing Cat Stevens.
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Religion of Gas Masks, Automatic Weapons and Smashing Cars
Lots more "holiness" courtesy of Pakistan's Red Mosque here.
I'd just like to float this idea - the Democrats seem committed to the idea of destroying what they call "hate speech" (which is simply dissent from their rigid ideology) on conservative talk radio. If they are trying to bring back the Fairness Doctrine based on "hate crimes" that are "caused by" talk radio, shouldn't Islam also be regulated and/or outlawed by this Democrat proposal? How many deaths are the direct result of zealous brainwashing in mosques being willed into reality by frothing followers of the opinions they hear in their 'religious' services?
Outlawing political opinions is as eggregious to the First Amendment as outlawing religion, but since the Democrats seem to be OK with outlawing the former, why not go the Full Monty?
Segregated Saudi Banks
(Jeddah, Saudi Arabia) Word is that segregation of men and women in the banking business will soon be strictly enforced. The Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency (SAMA) officials have refused to confirm the imposition of a new directive but admit that segregation is expected.
According to various reports by news agencies that have spoken to bank managers and women bankers, Saudi authorities have ordered banks to separate female and male workers at their headquarters where they used to work together.
Reportedly, authorities have given banks until the end of the summer to implement the measures.
The banks are expected to provide separate floors, elevators, entrance and cafeterias for the men and women.
The Ministry of Labor will send inspection teams to verify compliance. Regarding the Lesbian Gay Bisexual & Transgender (LGBT) bank employees, the segregation rules are considered not applicable, rather an unspoken "don't tell, don't die" policy is in general acceptance.
Burqini Opposed by Muslim Scholars
A recent Islamic fashion breakthrough was made with the creation of the burqini, a marriage of burqa and bikini. The garment was designed by Lebanese Australian Aheda Zanetti who wanted to provide specialized sportswear for Muslim females while embracing Islam and obeying their Islamic belief in dressing modestly.
The burqini (pic) has been described as like a full-length wetsuit with built-on hood, but somewhat looser and made of swimsuit material instead of rubber. Frankly, I think it looks more like pajamas with a shower cap. Either way, it doesn't seem as though the burqini would make athletics easy, rather just possible.
Although some Muslim females are excited about the burqini, the scholars of Islam are opposed. According to Safa Suling Tan of The Muslim Weekly, the burqini shows the shape of one's shoulders, arms, legs, and neck. It is also without extra covering for the chest so the shape of the breast can be seen and, horror of horrors, the feet are exposed for anyone to see.
In summary, the burqini compromises one's faith and displeases Allah.
[According to Tan] "I am sure most of us Muslim women would love to catch a break on the wave, go jet skiing and wake boarding, or just good old free styling, but I am more sure that most of us have given up those pleasures to seek the greatest one -- that of pleasing Allah."
Therefore, the burqini is considered immodest and contrary to the wishes of Allah. And Muslim females should not be thinking of swimming, jetskiing and other beach activities at all.
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so, what are arab women hiding?? do they have manitou on their backs or something?
Why is it that Arabs think they're "special" and deserving of anything over and above what everyone else? "oh, I'm islamic so I can't show my body, and my god loves me more than you kaffirs(unclean ones)"..hey, good for you, but if you want to limit yourself don't expect the rest of us to bow and scrape at your stupidity.
Mohommed was a pedophile, a liar and a theif as well as a murderer..and these people revere him.
NOT my business, but personally, I don't want them on my beaches, or in the oceans, unless its for chum.
if that makes me a bad guy then I guess I'll play that part.
Posted by: Elliott at June 28, 2007 03:48 PM (nLu4W)
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The female form is one of the most replendant things on the face of the planet. What kind of short-sighted, inbred motherfucker would go out of their way to cover it up?
The' burquini' may look stupid - and it does - but it's a giant leap from the jet black sheet of oppression. I guess that's why the crazies don't like it. I mean, if they're all owed to decide what to wear, next they'll want the right to vote! Heaven forbid!
Scumbags.
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at June 28, 2007 03:53 PM (VvcOL)
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Too bad, as goofy as it looks, the burkini was a valiant attempt at assimilating into our (or Australian) culture. Instead of attempting to change the prevailing culture to meet their needs, they adapted their own standards to become part of our culture. I say long live the burkini!
Posted by: BohicaTwentyTwo at June 28, 2007 03:59 PM (oC8nQ)
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It is most providential that this disgusting and blasphemous attire has rightly been banned by the guardians of the True Faith. I viewed the slut on your webpage. Disgusting! With only a small exercise of imagination one can discern the folds of this shameless strumpet's zinaat! I nearly disgraced myself but was able to avoid engorgement of my naughty bits by imagining the infidel Rosie O'Donnell in sexual congress with the dhimmi Michael Moore.
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All who look like Rosie O'Donut should remain covered.
Posted by: Greyrooster at June 28, 2007 05:38 PM (DoJ0v)
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"Muslim Scholar" is a far more ironic oxymoron than "Military Intelligence" and nearly as laughable as "Brilliant Lawyer."
Posted by: Hucbald at June 28, 2007 06:31 PM (wii9D)
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A study suggests conservative Muslim dress codes are causing vitamin D deficiency by depriving women of sunlight. Researchers "previously found a high prevalence of vitaminD deficiency … in Arab andEast Indian women residing in the United Arab Emirates." In a follow-up study
of 178 UAE women, "Many dressed to cover their whole bodies, including
their hands and faces, while outside of their homes. Only two of the
women, one in each group, were not vitamin D deficient." After three
months of supplements, only 30 percent of the women who finished the
study achieved recommended levels of vitamin D. Researchers'
conclusion: These women need higher doses of vitamin D. Human Nature's
conclusion: They need lower doses of fundamentalism.
Posted by: tbone at June 29, 2007 11:58 AM (HGqHt)
Thank you Dr. tbone, sorry but I fell asleep after, "a study suggests..."
Posted by: Barry at June 29, 2007 01:29 PM (KRpJM)
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Hahaha, sorry about that Barry. I thought it was interesting though that not only can Islam be unhealthy for the mind but it also appears it is unhealthy for the body as well (aside from all the exploded bits and pieces of former followers).
Posted by: tbone at June 29, 2007 03:10 PM (HGqHt)
“The father and son came in, grabbed our victim, pulled him outside, began choking and beating him. Drug him into the back of a Ford Explorer and that’s where they advised him that they were going to take him somewhere. He jumped out the other side window in fear for his life and as he went to run away the father told him, ‘I’m going to find you and I’m going to shoot you.’ The son went and grabbed a bat and went to chase after him,†Webber said.
Both Nashers were charged with assault and kidnapping. They both posted $20,000 cash bail and were released. ...
This happened with an hour's drive from where I live. What fun.
Their religion had nothing to do with this, though. Nothing at all.
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Give father and son life in prison upon conviction and no rediclous excuses from some idiot defense lawyer
Posted by: sandpiper at June 27, 2007 02:58 PM (7/75z)
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I was brought up in Middletown in the 70's when it was still a USSteel town (township actually). I remember a strange incident with a Korean immigrant who had tortured his family to death and then commited suicide. I cant remember the year I think it was maybe 1977. A few years later we moved into the house across the street. We also had that big trucker rally when all the gas rationing and Ayatollah Assahola stuff was going down. Man how things have changed. oooops I meant stay the same.
Posted by: birdhurd at June 27, 2007 03:14 PM (H/lOb)
I also grew up in PA--near Williamsport, and we always thought the Amish and Mennonites were freaky. They got nuttin’ on these nuts.
Those were the days my friends.
Posted by: Mrs Abe Froman at June 27, 2007 05:10 PM (SxoS2)
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JUST REMEMBER, NOSTALGIA'S NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE... As for these men who are the accused, I am stunned by the bail amounts! These men are obviously a flight risk. Having them out on bail is of course an endangerment to the injured parties. Also, not brought up in court, but obvious on common-sense grounds is the serious risk of vigilantism in a case like this. I am a bit surprised that these two did not beg to be imprisoned, to save their own lives.
Posted by: DemocracyRules at June 27, 2007 05:24 PM (PnMRH)
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$20,000 bail. What a friggin joke. If a white Christian has done that to a muslim the bail would have been $200.000. Plus federal hate crimes and violation of civil liberties crimes. But don't wish to upset any moderate muslims, do we?
Posted by: greyrooster at June 27, 2007 07:40 PM (nU57q)
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This whole "honor" thing makes me laugh. Muslims have no honor.
Posted by: Jester at June 27, 2007 08:19 PM (iwtIO)
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too close to home i also grew up an hour from there
Posted by: jimmytheclaw at June 27, 2007 08:53 PM (K+le+)
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Actually "honor killing" usually refers to the killing of the DAUGHTER not the fiancee. And I am sure that in NO other religions has a father ever acted in such a way before. Certainly no commentator here would ever act that way if his daughter was living with a man with whom he had "cultural differences" lol
Posted by: John Ryan at June 28, 2007 03:38 PM (TcoRJ)
Taliban Baby Killers Get Two Little GirlsThe Brave Mujahadbeens are out shooting at little girls for learning their ABCs, again.
Via The BBC:A group of girls returning home from school in Afghanistan's Logar province recently did not for a moment expect what lay ahead.
As they walked down a dirt track, insurgents sprang out of the parched farms and began firing on them.
Some of them fled into the farm, but two girls, one aged 13, the other 10, were killed in the ambush. Three of their friends were wounded........
Oh, and one of those new suicide bombers the Taliban sent off was picked up a bit short of NYC, he did make it to a check point in Afghanistan. Not a bad effort considering he was only six years old.
More from The BBC via Prairie Pundit: The International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), to which Britain contributes 5,000 troops in southern Afghanistan, revealed that soldiers defused an explosive vest which had been placed on a six-year-old who had been told to attack Afghan army forces in the east of the country.
The boy was spotted after appearing confused at a checkpoint. The vest was defused and no one was hurt........RIA
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 23, 2007 04:44 PM (EdIIN)
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Perhaps they will start shooting at trolls like the faggot bitch that call itself conservative voice.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 23, 2007 06:50 PM (1p01H)
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Being politically correct will not defeat savages such as these. Understand their religion approves of such cowardly behavior. What kind of monsters shoot at little girls? Muslim monsters. What kind of monsters beat to death people on the streets of Austin, Tx. Black muslim monsters. All the same.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 23, 2007 06:54 PM (1p01H)
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BBC:
group of girls returning home from school in Afghanistan's Logar province recently did not for a moment expect what lay ahead.
As they walked down a dirt track, insurgents sprang out of the parched farms and began firing on them.
Which definition of insurgent does this meet:
insurgent
adj : in opposition to a civil authority or government
school girls?
n 1: a person who takes part in an armed rebellion against the constituted authority (especially in the hope of improving conditions)
improving conditions by attacking school girls?
2: a member of an irregular armed force that fights a stronger force by sabotage and harassment
school girls??
how about just:
Terrorist \Ter"ror*ist\, n. [F. terroriste.]
1. One who governs by terrorism or intimidation;
Posted by: davec at June 23, 2007 10:14 PM (kcDpP)
Iranian Expatriate: Islam Threatens Constitutional Freedoms
And it uses the very same freedoms we hold dear and minority protections against us.
Amil Imani Via American Thinker: In the interest of impartiality, the authors of the Constitution did not define what constitutes a religion. Presently, a plethora of sects, cults, orders-all claiming to be religion-cover the length and the breadth of the land. So long as these "religions" minister to the legitimate spiritual needs of their congregation without threatening the rights of others, there is no reason for concern. However, when one or more of these claimants strive to undermine the very Constitution that protects them in order to impose their belief and way of life, serious problems arise.
Can a religion or a cult become so powerful and so uncivilized that it can hide behind the Constitution to preach an ideology of hatred and advocate a plan to destroy our society and subvert our government? We need to consider whether our Constitution enables and protects "religions" that are being used to put our very society and our freedoms in jeopardy.
Amil Imani is an Iranian-born American citizen and pro-democracy activist residing in the United States of America. He maintains a website at http://www.amilimani.com/
When people from Islamic nations tell you that Islam can be dangerous to America maybe you should listen. As if the daily death toll isn't enough?
Clearly a large portion of those causing mayhem and suffering in the Middle East and elsewhere believe they are doing what is demanded of them by Islam.
Someone needs to tell them what they are doing, all the suffering they bring upon Muslims an others, is wrong. And if you can't prove it to them using Islam itself what hope is there?
The only choice left is to fight them. To settle the issue of Islams place on the battlefield. For everyone's sake, I pray those who still bring suffering and murder in the name of God are defeated.
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When the writers of the Constitution wrote it Islam was not in the equastion. It shouldn't be now. OUTLAW ISLAM.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 16, 2007 09:37 PM (AsTKg)
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Sorry, but I just can't think of the Persian culture as Islamic. Their history is Zoroastrianism, and they contributed a lot to the early Jewish spiritual culture as well. It is a travesty that Persia was conquered by Islam, but I don't think this status quo is tenable. In fact, defectors from Islam to Zoroastrianism in Iran are so numerous that the Mullahs have sweaty palms over the issue.
I'm trying to think of an easier regime to topple, but nothing comes to mind. I can't believe it hasn't happened already, in fact.
Posted by: Hucbald at June 16, 2007 09:52 PM (0Zliy)
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Howie,
This Amil Imani guy strikes me a genuine fellow. Although I differ with him on a few subjects, when it comes to Islam, I agree with him 100%.
What people in the west need to learn is that Islam is in fact the farthest thing from a religion. Islam is a racialist political ideology which relies on the following three tools to achieve military dominance and to perpetuate its worthless existence:
1) Bloodshed (which you see on TV everyday)
2) Deceit (case in point CAIR, NIAC)
3) Using of women as incubation machines to effect a high birth rate (just look at Europe).
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 16, 2007 10:23 PM (EdIIN)
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Another Iranian ex-pat who was actually raised as a devout Muslim but turned against Islam goes by the name Ali Sina and is the founder of faithfreedom.org
which has become a multilingual sensation on the web.
Ali Sina also has written a book on the evil that is Islam called "Understanding Mohammed: A Psychobiography of Allâh’s Prophet"
http://www.lulu.com/content/787599
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 16, 2007 10:30 PM (EdIIN)
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DON'T BE SILLY. You can't outlaw Islam without abrogating the inallienable rights to free worship. Can you imagine making Islam illegal, but pumpkin worhip (or anything else) remains legal?
What is needed in all democracies is the specification that all shall have freedom of worship, so long as their religious practices do not in any way violate any other provisions of the constitution. This should incude all human rights provisions. This, of course, is common sense, but it has to be in writ of law to be enforceable.
As it is, devout cannibals to could take up residence in any democracy and claim that eating their fellow citizens is a part of their religion, and therfore an inalienable right.
Posted by: DemocracyRules at June 17, 2007 12:32 AM (PnMRH)
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"DemocracyRules", That's the whole point Islam is NOT a form of worship any more than Stalinism or Hitlerism are forms of worship. Islam use "religion" to camouflage its true nature.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 17, 2007 10:59 AM (j97MF)
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I shouldn't post comments before my caffeine infusion. Here's a grammatically correct version of my comment above:
That's the whole point! Islam is NOT a form of worship any more than Stalinism or Hitlerism are forms of worship. Islam uses the word "religion" to camouflage its true nature.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 17, 2007 11:50 AM (j97MF)
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This thread is very interesting. I'd like to quickly add that Stalinism IS a religion, but one of it's dogmas is that IT IS NOT a religion. Hitlerism is the same. A supernatural faith is required to believe any of those systems are somehow more noble or enlightened than the culture they are supplanting, and destroying, in the name of thier various causes. Check the fruit on thier tree. After you do, you have to have irational faith to continue on in your belief. OR, your selfish enough to see a power position for yourself in the new order of things, as long as you say the right things! It's all twisted and wrong in any case. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at June 17, 2007 04:19 PM (2OHpj)
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I think I can go so far as to say "outlaw Islam-ISM", but I still have to try and uphold freedom of 'religion' so Islam needs to have some chance at legitimacy if it can behave itself like other beliefs. Yes I think time is running out, and the genuine moderates, and reformers will get caught in the crossfire, but I hope somehow they make it. hey are going to have to save themselves cause the rest of us won't have time. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at June 17, 2007 04:25 PM (2OHpj)
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I was stuck by the article. Myself I don'tbelieve in Islam and have some fairly strong opinons about it. I don't howerver dislike Muslims per se. I consider them people just like you and I. That said I keep noticing a good percentage want to kill me. This tends to be a problem.
Posted by: Howie at June 17, 2007 07:41 PM (YHZAl)
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Mr. Weaver, Reading your comments, I must say, I feel I should temper myself since as you correctly point out we do have the touchstone, don't we? It is by their fruits that we know them. I would be categorically iniquitous if I didn't mention that I have in fact known Muslims who are not only decent folks but heroically and selflessly so; but I wonder if these few precious souls knew the full extent of the ideology that they are votaries of. Put another way, I honestly don't care by what name people call God if at all; what I care about is how they treat their fellow man. Do they respect other peoples lives, liberties, property and dignity? If they do, then they are good people. Otherwise......
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 17, 2007 10:17 PM (EdIIN)
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Gardunah Mehr: Your posts #3 and #6. My feelings exactly. Racialist political ideology. Perfect call. Not a religion.
Democracy rules: DON'T BE SILLY! Religions have been outlawed before. Example: The thugee religion in India. Why because the believed in killing people. Just like Islam. OUTLAWING ISLAM is the only way to avoid future chaos in America. Isn't Europe a good example?
Posted by: greyrooster at June 18, 2007 10:01 PM (P3TAU)
Justice for Banaz MahmodNot the justice of Sharia either, which is how her father came to the conclusion that he should murder her to save his, "honor."
Via BBC: A father has been found guilty of killing his daughter in what police have described as an honour killing.
The body of Banaz Mahmod, 20, was found in a suitcase buried in a garden in Birmingham last year.
Her father Mahmod Mahmod, 52, and uncle Ari Mahmod, 50, from Mitcham, south London, were both convicted of murder at the Old Bailey....
...Miss Mahmod was killed after falling in love with a man her family did not want her to marry.
Her father and uncle ordered the murder because they believed she had shamed the family.
Too bad the Brits have abolished the death penalty, some prime candidates right there.
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They should shove both of them into a suitcase and bury them alive to save "her honour"
Posted by: allahakchew at June 12, 2007 10:17 AM (m2p07)
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I'd say tie one arm behind their back and let them swim to France.....
Posted by: Howie at June 12, 2007 10:47 AM (YHZAl)
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And what would mo-slime savages know about honour?
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 12, 2007 11:08 AM (j97MF)
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The sad thing is that she made a video predicting it'd happen and even went to the police, but, as usual, political correctness and not wanting to cause any trouble took precedent and one innocent life was extinguished when it could so easily've been prevented.
Do your duty as a citizen: help these poor women out from under the abusive fist that is Islam.
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at June 12, 2007 11:54 AM (dmpXk)
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Sad thing about this case is that her life was cut violently short and being a Muslim she awoke to find herself in hell due to the fact she is a Muslim who believed in a false "allah" and false prophet.
As Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father, but by me.
Jesus wasn't joking...
Posted by: Darren at June 12, 2007 12:33 PM (UCVDK)
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They have yet to see justice. God will hand that to them... and I want to watch.
Posted by: JeepThang at June 12, 2007 01:09 PM (bhnHj)
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Oh, now everyone calm down..........remember, we just don't understand them. We need to understand them and their ways before unjustly...................(sarc off) I can't even make fun of them anymore.
And, they call me the Jew Pig...............well better a Jew Pig then a complete moron with a complete lapse in all ability to think for myself and blindly follow a bunch more morons that only want death for all.
Posted by: japnkc at June 12, 2007 01:46 PM (gveH5)
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If they felt so dishonored, why didn't they do the honorable thing commit suicide?
Posted by: 1sttofight at June 12, 2007 01:51 PM (51r8a)
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Yeah...I bet they will serve no more than 8 years.
Posted by: Randman at June 12, 2007 02:07 PM (Sal3J)
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If so that would be a shame, obviously this was premeditated 1st degree murder and they attempted to cover up the crime. Life without parole is appropriate, not as appropriate as hanging but it will have to do.
Posted by: Howie at June 12, 2007 02:12 PM (YHZAl)
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Hey maybe they will hear the case in a British Sharia Court!!!
Posted by: Darren at June 12, 2007 02:26 PM (UCVDK)
Three less muslims on the streets of England. Now is we can get the rest of them to do the same. I'm a hard hearted bastard but I know big muslims make more little muslims who grow to make more shitty little muslims. Got to break the chain somewhere. OUTLAW ISLAM.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 12, 2007 03:10 PM (1ZyKh)
It's pretty despicable of you to proselytize under such circumstances. Mourn the dead and leave judgement to God -- let your example be the light to others; what you've done here is drag Christ's name through the mud...really, you need to get out a little more.
Posted by: Richard Romano at June 12, 2007 08:07 PM (iD1fP)
The LIGHT exposes the TRUTH and you don't put your light under a bushel like you would have me do. Furthermore, we are to be the salt of the earth and salt can irritate.
The only one who has drug any name in the mud sir is yourself.
The woman is in hell if she died without Christ and being a Muslim she did or do you NOT believe the Word of God?
Sir instead of getting out more yourself, I would recommend you stay indoors and pick of a Bible and read it for a change.
So relax...
Posted by: Darren at June 12, 2007 08:20 PM (UCVDK)
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"Three less muslims on the streets of England. Now is we can get the
rest of them to do the same. I'm a hard hearted bastard but I know big
muslims make more little muslims who grow to make more shitty little
muslims. Got to break the chain somewhere. OUTLAW ISLAM."
More moronity from you, greyrooster.
Posted by: Christoph at June 15, 2007 04:08 AM (BqJ1D)
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Christoph: You're a candy ass. Don't have balls enough for the fight. Get the hell out. Go suck a muslim. Maybe they will spare you.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 16, 2007 11:29 PM (AsTKg)
Muhammad Name Tops for British Boys
(United Kingdom) According to the British Office of National Statistics (ONS), the name Muhammad appeared in the Top 30 of the official names register for the first time in 2000.
For 2007, Muhammad is second behind Jack in the register and it is anticipated to become the leading choice for newborn boys by the end of the year.
Most Popular Names - Baby Boys in Britain (2007)
1) Jack
2) Muhammad
3) Thomas
4) Joshua
5) Oliver
Just think, in a couple decades a plurality of young men in Britain will be named Muhammad. Isn't that just ducky?
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This news is months old. Jesus, get your shit together Pechar.
Posted by: Darth Vag at June 06, 2007 07:50 AM (b0FZu)
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Mike, The primary three tools that Islamic ideology uses to subjugate others are: 1. Violence 2. Deceit 3. High birth rate (due to polygamy and misogyny).
The last one is how they destroyed Lebanon. They kept breeding "voters" for themselves. And this is how they intend to destroy Western democracies.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 06, 2007 08:39 AM (j97MF)
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Thomas just sounds gay, poor brits are going to up to their arm pitts
in muslims.
Posted by: gandolf101 at June 06, 2007 08:49 AM (5CweG)
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It's not quite as bad as it looks. There's only like 20 acceptable names for Muslime boys: Muhammed, Mustafa, Ahmed, Kamal, Jamal, Hassan, Abdul, Abdullah, Adil, Omar, Yusif, Adnan. I think they have to use names that are in the Koran, and the selection is somewhat limited, on account of the fact that Muhammad was, you know, illiterate.
Posted by: Randman at June 06, 2007 09:33 AM (Sal3J)
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How seen will the cresent abd star replace the union jack how long will it be before all british men are forced to grow beards and weomen forced to wear burkas?
Posted by: sandpiper at June 06, 2007 10:15 AM (hm7/x)
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I think it is great that Islamic names are being used to name boys. When the civil war commences, it will take out a lot of guesswork on who to kill.
Posted by: Darren at June 06, 2007 11:36 AM (UCVDK)
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Any comments that " a man named Muhammad is most likely to be aged between 25 and 34 and to have an average salary of 25,000 pounds (about 50,000 dollars) ?
Posted by: John Ryan at June 06, 2007 12:02 PM (Ax4MR)
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"John Ryan" aka Qolam-Ali Tazi Now that you're fully exposed you really need to STFU.
This is the difference between a true Iranian like me and an Arab-worshipping terrorist-loving Mo-slime like you. I can proudly hold my head up and say I'm Iranian: "pedar dar pedar Aryaee nezhad, ze poshte Freydoun'e nikoo nahaad".
It won't be long now before the Islamic Republic of Iran is flushed into the sewer of history where it belongs and you and your hireling ilk will lose your benefactor.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 06, 2007 01:30 PM (j97MF)
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John Ryan wears a burka. His mama works on a pig farm in New Jersey. His daddy''s a black muslim in prison for sodomizing his son.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 06, 2007 04:10 PM (1h1Tb)
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check out John Ryan's analysis of Gay Porn over at Blackfive:
http://www.blackfive.net/main/2007/06/matt_sanchez_fr.html#comments
including this gem:
Comment below written by: John Ryan
Sorry I was laughing so hard over Matt Sanchez ( who used as a nom de guerre Rod Majors while starring in Anal Angel) being now a member of your team that i forgot to put the link in for LtGen Ricardo Sanchez's interview.
Stick to your cheeto's and spanking it to Gay porn John.
Posted by: davec at June 06, 2007 04:25 PM (kcDpP)
Posted by: greyrooster at June 06, 2007 04:49 PM (30TNB)
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Muhammed is a shit name. Muslims are shits. They can take their crap names and leave the UK now, this is another indication of them swarming over our sacred Isles and polluting our culture.
Posted by: Jester at June 06, 2007 05:41 PM (iwtIO)
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Say, Darth, some fires require more than one alarm.
Posted by: StoogeWatch at June 06, 2007 05:43 PM (yqtDn)
Steve Emerson rules. Not only was he one of the first Americans to recognize the true threat posed by radical Islam, and not only was he among the first to publicly bitch-slap radical Islamists into submission, but to this day he continues to totally own the current crop of apologists, propagandists and spin-doctors who are working to distort and sanitize the west's understanding of Islam.
And today has been a real Steve Emerson kind of a day!more...
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damn the biyotch haz an Islamic motor-mouth, her lips are so fast I bet she can piss, moan and lie all at the same time.
Posted by: Rubin at May 31, 2007 12:26 AM (QjMcY)
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Good catch, and thanks for sharing. I'd say more but life is being hectic this month. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at May 31, 2007 05:12 AM (2OHpj)
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Her response in writing is hilarious, a "printing error" made her the Editor in Chief, yeah right and the Jew-phone rang before the planes hit the North Tower so they could all get out in time.
For someone who wants to distance themselves from al Talib, she sure was busy defending them: http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/archives/id/17501/
Posted by: Gabriel at May 31, 2007 10:43 AM (NTVio)
Welcome to the Hotel Sharia in Malaysia
I often wonder why my Christian friend from Malaysia says he'll never go back. Today Michelle helps me understand.
Via Michelle Malkin: Last August, I wrote about the plight of an ex-Muslim woman in Malaysia named Lina Joy. She had converted to Christianity and wanted to marry a Christian man. As the Abdul Rahman case made chillingly clear to the world, there are dire consequences for leaving Islam. Joy bravely went to court to stop being identified as a Muslim--and earned death threats and family disavowal for her apostasy. Now, the verdict is in. Sharia wins, Lina Joy loses:
"You can't at whim and fancy convert from one religion to another," Federal Court Chief Justice Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Halim said in delivering judgment in the case, which has stirred religious tensions in the mainly Muslim nation.
You seem bothered by foreign customs. The question I have for you is: how exactly do we go about changing the culture of a billion muslims at this stage? Ruling out military action (which as Iraq has proven - does more harm than good), can we speak or act with any moral authority - I mean now that our side has embraced torture and other less than civilized principles?
Over to you...
Posted by: Bo at May 30, 2007 03:46 PM (Ywo+X)
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Yeah Bo, I know what you mean. On my lunch break, I just saw a man and woman's hands cut off in Times Square because they were holding hands but weren't married (even better to watch than a stoning!). Over to ewe...
Posted by: Truther Smurf at May 30, 2007 04:56 PM (HGqHt)
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Good article Howie! And Bo ... I suppose some of us Do have problems with foriegn customs. I have a problem with the customs that the Nazi's instituted, where it was OK to shove millions of men women and children into gas chambers and ovens. I can see your point, how making some guy wear underwear on his head equates with that. You have TOTALLY changed my mind
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at May 31, 2007 05:28 AM (2OHpj)
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I just spent two weeks in Dubai, which is in the United Arab Emerites. I spoke to lots of people about what is happening and a vast majority of them, even though they are the most pro-west arabs there are, expressed absolute hatred towards Americans for what they have done in Iraq. They are very informed about what happened at Abu Ghrab, and they know all about how the American government made up excuses based on cooked intelligence to invade a sovereign nation.
I also felt comfortable but totally out of place in the customs and ways of their society - which is still heavily controlled by religious laws. And I remain convinced having seen this first-hand that for us to try and change or influence their deep rooted customs is absolutely bound to fail. And the fact of the matter is: Islamic / sharia law is not compatible with western styled democracy. Give them a democracy and they will elect a theocratic regime which immediately erodes all civil liberties. We should not be sending young men off to die for a hopeless cause.
Whatever your concerns are about the Nazi's rest assured that your government did not go to war with them because they violated human rights.
Posted by: Bo at May 31, 2007 04:27 PM (euN4c)
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Bo, They can hate us all they want, they already did. To say that they loved us before Abu Ghrab is a joke - where have you been for the last 40 years?
Posted by: Troofer Hawat at June 04, 2007 12:21 PM (HGqHt)
Taliban Child Beheading Uncensored Video Frames *Bumped*
Exclusive, must cite The Jawa Report
You may recall the recent video of the Taliban beheading a "spy for the crusaders" on video. What made the video even sicker than the usual sick barbaric Jihadi propaganda is that the beheading was carried out by a twelve year old boy under the direction of Taliban leaders.
One of the leaders was rumored to be, the now very dead, Mullah Dadullah --a top Taliban leader-- or his younger brother. In these frames Mullah Dadullah, or a person with a close family resemblance, can be seen coaching the young man on how to proceed.
All the copies that we have in the West are censored. The actual murder was cut from copies on liveleak and other places where it was uploaded. The Jawa Report has obtained a series of frames taken from the original video. These frames show the previously censored section of the video.
more...
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Probably the most grotesque pictures I have ever seen. Thank God this murderous man Dadullah is in hell now -- yes, in hell. And Thank God that judgement is eternal -- such beasts deserve no remorse.
This child is ruined for life -- how do you turn a child back from this?
Posted by: Richard Romano at May 24, 2007 03:14 PM (iD1fP)
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Yes, After hearing Zawahiri claim that another, "spy" was responsible for Deadullah's death and the wild tale he told of his killing I'm sure another scapegoat will be murderd in order to maintain the fear that keeps them in power.
If you ask me spy's have nothing to do with it. God judged that there was no good could come from Deadullah remaining on this earth and it was time he take his place in hell.
Posted by: doriangrey at May 24, 2007 03:34 PM (XvkRd)
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Look Abdul, little Suleiman just beheaded his first spy! That kid looks like hes holding up a fucking prize bass. Ask Pelosi and the rest of her numbskulls how we can best rehabilitate this child.
I hope a 7.62mm to the gut is in his near future.
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at May 24, 2007 04:49 PM (ou0cx)
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These so-called soldiers of God, freedom fighters disgust me. They are nothing more than psychopathic murderers who delight in raping young women are murdering anyone they want in the name of their god. What was done to this child was the worst form of child abuse possible. Now that he's drawn blood and slaughtered a man, he must now die as his innocence was cut in two the same as that poor man's body was cut in two. I have confidence that there is a special place in hell reserved for sub-human animals like this. I know that if I were to judge such deeds and actions I could not forgive them as I cannot understand them. I hope all of these terrorist scum suffer greatly on their way out of this world.
Posted by: DrTheopolis at May 24, 2007 05:18 PM (9ZqGe)
I wish nightmares and bedwetting on this kid till he hits age 21 and at that point he just can't take it anymore and he eats his own gun after killing everyone one of the other kids that he did this in front of because they are just as ruined and evil as he is.
Or is that a disproportionate response?
Posted by: Mrs Abe Froman at May 24, 2007 05:27 PM (HiXpB)
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Those assclowns are playing us for the suckers we are by doing crap
like this. Besides the guys who got his head whacked off and his
family, who cares?
They know for a fact we as a nation do not have the stomach to go toe to toe with them for long.
That's too damn bad too. We used to have balls in this nation.
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One of this nice realities about this blog and the comment section is that all the readers know they are not alone. Thus, this kid gives us focus, tests our thoughts, tunes our wills. We know that if the shit hits the fan over here, there will most certainly be people like us, who read this blog, save for those few assholes who just love to pretend, etc., who will go out into the community and do battle with these monsters. At such a point, these terrorists will taste the fury, the energies, that made America the greatest country on this planet. We want peace not war. They want war, not peace.
We will be meeting them. We will give them peace, even if they take us to war to achieve peace.
This is real simple: They lose, we win!
Posted by: RJ at May 24, 2007 07:07 PM (yyxO/)
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"This child is ruined for life -- how do you turn a child back from this? "
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You know, looking at the hands of the people holding the victim down - it looks like they are all children!
Posted by: DJM at May 24, 2007 07:12 PM (qEUo5)
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That little punk wasn't and isn't "innocent." Children his age are every bit as culpable as legally defined adults. Morality is not the sole province of adults. If he were a decent human being, he wouldn't have sawed another human being's head off on video at the behest of sub-human scum.
He'll grow up to be what he is already: an islamopithecine enemy of mankind.
It's not the "religion" or the people who practice it. It's both.
Posted by: Muhammad Wasa Fuquad at May 24, 2007 07:35 PM (P6kNY)
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I have changed my mind . It is now okay to kill the families of these terrorist assholes along with them. There is no salvati0n for this little punk. I would gladly cut his head off on National Television. Difference is I would do it much quicker. Or would I. Wonder if one of the women in the picture was his proud mother.
Posted by: Greyrooster at May 24, 2007 08:08 PM (YnEfg)
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Hey Rusty! Another one of your moderate muslims? Seems like his entire family was watching with smiles of pride?
Posted by: Greyrooster at May 24, 2007 08:12 PM (YnEfg)
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You can take the muslim of the the middle east but you can't take the animal out of the muslim.
Posted by: Greyrooster at May 24, 2007 08:13 PM (YnEfg)
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...and if that savage little gobshite should happen to get killed in the next firefight, how will it be reported?
"Coalition forces murder innocent child."
For fucks' sake...
Posted by: Joe Public at May 24, 2007 08:52 PM (08mv9)
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Just think how I felt pulling the frames. I can always tell when I've run across a particulary sick example of Jihadi crap. I try to you know ignore what I'm doing, but when it's bad you start to feel hot(flushed/sick). You know you are staring at Satan's work This shit is effing evil and anyone who says it's not, that it's the will of god, has been terribly deceived.
Posted by: Howie at May 24, 2007 09:03 PM (YHZAl)
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Hmm I don't undertand why google news is not picking this up....
Posted by: Greyrooster at May 24, 2007 09:46 PM (YnEfg)
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Those pictures are all fake. Islam is a religion of peace.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 24, 2007 10:33 PM (K/lgF)
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er! pieces. A picture is worth a thousand words.
Posted by: Greyrooster at May 25, 2007 09:48 AM (YnEfg)
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Wheres CHILDREN AS PEACEMAKERS wheres SAVE THE CHILDREN wheres CHILDRENS DEFENSE FUND? to object to this wheres the so called UN HUman rights wackos? this as outragious
Posted by: sandpiper at May 25, 2007 10:17 AM (S97cI)
Posted by: Greyrooster at May 25, 2007 01:47 PM (YnEfg)
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Why do you have sympathy for the man? He was a Taliban militant, NOT some innocent civilian kidnapped off the street. He did do us a good favor by giving up the location of Osmani but he was still a terrorist. He got what he deserved. You should mention him being a Taliban member.
Posted by: George Ramos at June 16, 2007 12:57 PM (TmLg9)
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I have sympathy for the 14 policemen and soldiers killed by the ISI. They were innocent men doing their duty by serving the country. They didn't deserve to die. They had families and lives. The Iraqi Interior Ministry disavowed them by saying they were not their men. Bastards.
RIP men.
Posted by: George Ramos at June 16, 2007 01:00 PM (TmLg9)
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He seems like the atypical YouTube flake-but he is absolutely right. Islam has intimidated the rest of the world into censoring itself. "Admit we are peaceful or we will kill you!"
Its working.
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at May 23, 2007 07:31 AM (ou0cx)
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If he were a mobster from Goodfellas, he would be Jimmy "Eyes Left".
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at May 23, 2007 05:33 PM (ou0cx)
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I've been tracking the 'Great YouTube War' for awhile, and I can't even get started explaining what is going on to someone from the 'outside' of cyberspace. Thanks for making the effort to link to this. A whole lot of flagging is going on back and forth, and YouTube sems to be taking sides against non-muslims. If any readers have some time, please look into this in more detail because this IS a front of the war! USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at May 24, 2007 06:52 PM (2OHpj)
Citizenship Test Outrages Muslims
The Australian Immigration Ministry has outraged the Muslim community with a proposed citizenship test question that states the Australian values system is based on Judeo-Christian tradition. Federation of Islamic Councils President Dr. Ameer Ali said, "That question must be rephrased."
Immigration Minister Kevin Andrews responded by stating that Australia's Judeo-Christian heritage was indisputable historical fact.
Nonetheless, Dr. Ali said he wants a meeting with Mr. Andrews since, "It is the wrong message we are sending."
Therefore, one must conclude that from a Muslim perspective, indisputable historical facts send the wrong message.
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I become increasingly proud to be a xenophobic islamophobe. If only I were a xenomorph: I'd go all alien on the ummah.
Posted by: Hucbald at May 21, 2007 10:24 PM (XoJMC)
2Therefore, one must conclude that from a Muslim perspective, indisputable historical facts send the wrong message.
You can say exactly the same thing about Leftists here in America who deny our own country's judeo-christian tradition. Notice how islamotards and leftards aren't really that different when it comes down to it.
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Sounds like the guy wants Australians to admit that it was Muslims who first discovered Australia, and North America, and South America.... You know, it's practically indisputable.
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Save Austrailia! OUTLAW ISLAM. Send them back to their own countries along with camels and cane toads. Both are bad for native species.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 21, 2007 11:42 PM (R62C1)
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I have prayed and prayed over this but inevitably the answer always comes back the same. For Christians to survive in Gods world we must destroy islam alltogether.
No discussions, no catering to the PC camp, just an outright slaughter of all muslims and arabs before they do the same to us. This is a holy war that is being waged on us and if we continue to do nothing we will lose.
The arab and muslim must be eliminated or we will truly perish.
Christ be with us.
Posted by: Right Minister at May 22, 2007 12:07 AM (Nhfns)
Posted by: Phillep at May 22, 2007 12:12 AM (Ij/vw)
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Nice job "Right Minister." Took me a minute to catch the trolling/parody in the post. Nice use of "Christianese" and not a hint of ham-handed attempts at irony. I suppose you're expecting some poster to agree with you and then affirm you're belief that all conservatives are bloody savages. I could give a lengthy refutation of your post, but it would be a waste of time. So, I'll keep it relatively brief.
1. As a Christian, I think it perfectly just to eliminate eliminate a people who are wholly devoted to the destruction of my family, myself, my country, and my culture. In the case of a culture which raises its children to be murderers, annihilation is merciful. That being said, that is an extreme worst case scenario. Extremists do not represent all Muslims and I've encountered Muslims who I happily call my friends.
2. As a Christian, I believe that just war is an expression of a society's of righteous anger, but that it is also an act of love, to both my loved ones and my enemy. An unusual notion to some, but just war is about limiting evil by the only means left to a civilized people. Appeasement does work, as is demonstrated by history that is still with in living memory. All it amounts to is a society's justification and tolerance of evil.
3. I will pray for my enemies and hope their conscience is pricked by God, but God, in his love, has given men free will to to accept or reject him of their own volition. The consequences of that choice come at the end we will all one day face. Until such time, good men must act to push back the evil that other men might inflict upon the innocent.
That is what I think and those are opinions shared by a great many Christians throughout history.
Posted by: David Marcoe at May 22, 2007 12:38 AM (dJ/b4)
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Correction to previous post: Appeasement does not work.
Posted by: David Marcoe at May 22, 2007 01:46 AM (dJ/b4)
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Right minister: I don't think we have to eliminate them. Just punish them until they know better. Then give them a taste of our superior civilization. My problem is that I believe there to be more racism involved in the Islamic movement than people will admit. Political/Academic correctness may hurt us in the end.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 22, 2007 10:17 PM (xGret)
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Nothing better for Islam than Christians fighting Christians. I can see them now. Sitting on their dirty little rugs, nodding to each other, knowingly thinking, see we are winning. They fight each other face to face while we stick it to them from the back. Stupid Christians. Nothing but the crusaders again. We will cut their heads off in the name of God who is good and merciful.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 22, 2007 10:22 PM (xGret)
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David Marcoe: Your opinions are shared by more than just Christians. If there is a God. Based on the bible. He surely would approve of fighting back. If there isn't. Doesn't matter. Problem is that muslims say what they do is approved by God. Wish that this God would tell everyone to knock it off.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 22, 2007 10:29 PM (xGret)
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Australia's Judeo-Christian heritage; hmm. Anyone ask any Australian aborigines their opinions on that 'fact'?
Besides that it really wasn't a 'Judeo-Christian' heritage that the first European settlers of Australia had or left behind but more of a 'penal colony / thieves and degenerates' heritage. Try reading 'The Fatal Shore' for a fuller explanation of what I'm talking about.
Posted by: biglongfence at May 23, 2007 05:30 AM (yuCRB)
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Biglongfense: Your assumption that we don't know Aussie history is 1st grade stuff. We are quite aware of the fact that the Brits used it for a penal colony. We're also aware that it has nothing to do with the situation of today. I know those dirty rotten white people took over a land whose native people hadn't even invented the wheel. Damn white people did it everywhere. Then they had the nerve to bring their medicines, TV's, telephones, radios, computers, light bulbs, Big Mac's and other useless junk with them. Damn white people.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 23, 2007 09:25 PM (NmERc)
Literally
The Brave Mujahadbeens are out shooting at little girls for learning their ABCs, again.
Not the justice of Sharia either, which is how her father came to the conclusion that he should murder her to save his, "honor."
