"Help me kill those who offended the Prophet" UPDATED
I'd call death threats against those who have the audacity to blaspheme the Muslim prophet Mohamed alarming. But it's not. In fact, it's quite predictable. Since Islam recognizes no distinction between sin and crime than anything deemed blasphemous would be considered criminal.
And what is the penalty for unrepentant blasphemers under Islamic law? Death.
Convicted Internet Jihadi's al Qaeda ConnectionCan you say Black Widow? Yesterday I reported that Tunisian Moez Garsallaoui and his Belgian wife Malika al-Aroud had been convicted in a Swiss court for running a number of al Qaeda propaganda website. You'll recall that they both claimed they had no knowledge about what was being said on the website. Let me assure you that the al-Minbar websites, run by the couple, were some of the most vile pro-violent jihad websites out there.
Moez Garsallaoui was given six months in prison and Malika al-Aroud was given a suspended sentence. That means she will serve no time for her involvement in the distribution of al Qaeda propaganda--including disgustingly vile hostage beheading videos which the forum cheered on. Outrageous!
But I wonder if the judge would have been so lenient if he knew that Malika al-Aaroud's now deceased husband was Abdessater Dahmane? Because if the judge knew that and released her back on to the streets of Switzerland, then there is really little hope for Europe's future.
Who was Abdessater Dahmane? He was one of the al Qaeda assassins who murdered Ahmed Shah Massoud, leader of the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan, on September 9, 2001. Dahmane was one of the two assassins who pretended to be journalists. In their interview with Massoud, immediately before they set off the bomb believed to have been hidden in the video camera they brought along, they expressed their support for Osama bin Laden.
The timing of Massoud's death was almost certainly linked to the 9/11 plot---an attempt to hurt the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance before any possible American retaliation.
In August of 2004, just as the al-Minbar websites run by the couple were beginning to be investigated, CNN sat down with Moez Garsallaoui and Malika al-Aroud. While yesterday it was Moez who got the jail time, the CNN interview made it obvious that it was his wife, the burqa clad Malika, who wore the pants in that family:
We met el Aroud on a cold February day in Guin, a small town in Switzerland north of Fribourg. She lives there with her new husband, a Tunisian named Moez Garsalloui, whom she gently bosses around. She is a woman who says what she thinks....
El Aroud is a passionate believer in bin Laden's jihad and, together with her new husband, devotes her time to running a Web site promoting it....
Gazing into CNN's cameras she told us, "It's the pinnacle in Islam to be the widow of a martyr. For a woman it's extraordinary."...
"Abdessater [her former husband] dreamed of being under Osama bin Laden's orders," she said. "Yes, he dreamed of pledging allegiance to him. Oh yes. That was his dream. It was to meet Osama bin Laden and to shake his hand and put himself under his orders."
In mid-2001 Abdessater went to Afghanistan. El Aroud said he was determined to find a theater to fight in, preferably Chechnya. But bin Laden recruited him into al Qaeda, and he trained at a camp in Jalalabad....
Yet el Aroud described this as a happy time; she was reunited with her husband and had been accepted into a close-knit community. Only later did she realize that she had lived in the "middle of Osama bin Laden's clan," a circle, she told CNN, that included bin Laden's wives.
"They seemed happy from what I could tell," she said. "They were radiant, even. Otherwise they wouldn't be married to him. I don't think he was forceful with them." ...
El Aroud said she learned of her husband's death on September 12, 2001. As she described how the families around her came to congratulate her for her husband's actions there was noticeable tension in her voice. It was a huge shock to her, and for weeks after she was numb with grief, she said.
An al Qaeda courier dropped off a letter from bin Laden that included $500. She said bin Laden had wanted to settle a debt. With the letter came a tape, chillingly from her dead husband in which he told her he loved her but that he was "already on the other side." ....
She is undaunted by the investigation into her Web site and she ushered us into her bedroom to show us how she runs the forum. As the crew recorded from behind her, a large image popped on her computer monitor -- Osama bin Laden.
And it was not only her second husband that Malika seems to have dominated. Her relationship with her former al Qaeda assassin husband seems to have been quite unusual, to say the least. From a PBS Frontline special:
Abdessatar Dahmane, one of the two Tunisians settled in Belgium who murdered Ahmed Shah Massoud, took his wife, Malika el Aroud (a Belgian citizen born in Tangier, Morocco), to Afghanistan. She wrote a book in French, telling how her husband behaved like a 'modern' man (sewing the buttons on his shirt because she hated doing such tasks).
Are we seeing a pattern her? As the CNN article makes clear, it was Malika al-Aroud, and not her husband, who was the force behind the website. If any one deserves jail time, it was her.
Today, this friend of the bin Laden family and open supporter of al Qaeda, walks the streets of Guin, Switzerland.
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I guess if the lady in black was in brown instead, she would look like a Jawa.
Posted by: DrTheopolis at June 22, 2007 05:30 PM (9ZqGe)
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Is it possible that this wench is an Islamic-style gold-digger? I mean her scam might be something like this: Find a Mo-slime husband with some wealth or savings; manipulate him to engage in Jihad. Walk away with his money once the idiot kills himself or is killed by the coalition; then move on to the next mark!!?!?!?!!??
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 22, 2007 11:19 PM (j97MF)
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Ha, ha. Yea. I can visualize it. And no one knows what she looks like. I always thought that Berka thing was to scare dogs and little kids.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 22, 2007 11:53 PM (k0DWG)
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Years ago, when the made for TV version of Steven King's "The Stand" hit the airwaves, I was horrified by the scene where the US Army guys slaughtered the reporters. Now? Not so much.
Posted by: Hucbald at June 20, 2007 04:18 PM (6vhVW)
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To those Europeans (and Americans) who think the USA is terrible, you're like those little spoiled lap dogs, pampered, coddled, always barking and yapping. But when trouble comes, you run and hide under the bed whimpering in a puddle of pee, only to come back out when it's safe and start barking and yapping all over again. (My apologies to the dog world for this analogy).
Posted by: Barry at June 20, 2007 04:56 PM (blu+l)
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Our arrogance, our arrogance. You forgot our arrogance. This is why they kill each other.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 21, 2007 09:05 AM (aPOZJ)
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Rusty, The culprits, in my opinion, are socialism on the hand, and French envy on the other.
By the way, not all Europeans are anti-American; I'm pretty sure the Dutch and Danish soldiers serving shoulder-to-shoulder with U.S. forces in Afghanistan can not be classified as anti-American.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 21, 2007 10:22 AM (j97MF)
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And don't forget the Polish, they still love us too (probably had something to do with Russia or Germany or somethin').
Posted by: tbone at June 21, 2007 04:36 PM (HGqHt)
Al Qaeda Targetting Neutral Countries
This story is funny. No, more like ha-ha funny. If a neutral country, Switzerland---one with nary a soldier anywhere in the Middle East--is on al Qaeda's hit list, then that says something about the Islamists 'legitimate demands'.
I guess if you're not with al Qaeda, you're against them....
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Of course Switzerland is part of THE plot against Islam. Other conspirators include: puppies, butterflies, kites, music, air, books, free thought and the moon (for affecting the tides - pbuh). Get bent Al-Sasquatch.
Posted by: Troofer Hawat at May 31, 2007 11:16 AM (HGqHt)
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You can always count of the religion of piece, they want to ensure that a piece of you gets blown here and a piece gets blown there....
Insults Now a Crime in Europe
Charles has the details but leaves out the money quote:
member states may choose to punish only conduct which is either carried out in a manner likely to disturb public order or which is threatening, abusive or insulting.
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But Europe is a place of freedom, not like that fascist Amerikkka. Europe has freedom of speech, property, self defense.... wait, scratch that. None of those three are important. In fact they are actually tools of the Amerikkan capitalist hegemony, designed by the Zionist neo-con cabal to oppress minorities and enrich haliburton. Yeah, that's the ticket...
Posted by: wooga at April 20, 2007 12:14 PM (t9sT5)
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The greates threat to free speech today is coming from the Left. All in the name of "tolerance", of course.
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"freedom of speech, property, self defense.... wait, scratch that. None of those three are important. In fact they are actually tools of the Amerikkan capitalist" Yes while beheading, muslim killing muslim, killing women and children, Child murders, bombing mosques and markets, trying to get a nuke are hallmarks of "Islam" a hijacked religion.
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Posted by: gerald at April 20, 2007 02:50 PM (h0BrM)
Posted by: greyrooster at April 20, 2007 08:29 PM (E6u6Q)
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Freedom of Speech dont exist in the Euroweenie Union and despite what the liberal have told us the Soviet Union did,nt die out after all it is now the whole eurpean constinent
Posted by: sandpiper at April 21, 2007 09:47 AM (9NBAS)
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John Lyin is a friggin little faggot. There. I just committed my first crime in Europe.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 21, 2007 09:52 AM (oChhC)
Video: Racist German Military Training
By popular request, here is the racist German army training video. Apparently the instructor says something like: “You are in the Bronx. A black van is stopping in front of you. Three African-Americans are getting out and they are insulting your mother in the worst ways. … Act.†I think having a trainee think of David Hasselhof would be far more effective, but that's just me.
Qiut grumbling, just go listen to some of my painfully unmelodic music if knowing that your not responsible for making such painfully unmelodic crap doesnt make you feel better than nothing ever will................
OK, as a cold war baby, I have a sentimental attachment to NATO. Turkey is a pain in the butt, and I would love it if they relenquished the Kurdish territory of thier own free will. Just saying that what we want isn't always practical. And don't worry, I know my opinion on this is unpopular to many. Take your shots. I'm anti-Sharia/Radical, which doesn't automatically translate into hatred for Turkey. Neither does my disgust for California leftists translate into a hatred of California. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 10, 2007 03:25 AM (2OHpj)
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Still this kind of cowardice by thier leadership sets a bad example. So fair criticism is appropriate. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 10, 2007 03:29 AM (2OHpj)
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Does Michael Weaver assume hatred means the same as hates what one does?
Posted by: greyrooster at April 15, 2007 07:56 AM (2J0r9)
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Stopping Sharia in Europe. First load your weapon. The load the ships. Load the planes. Load the trains. Until the nasty little shits are back in their own countries. Then lock the door.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 30, 2007 02:46 PM (TRmKF)
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you failed to mention anything about torpedos.... was that going to be a surprise?.... sorry.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 31, 2007 12:44 AM (LDOOz)
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at least wait until he's with the gang from the hill. wouldn't want to waste tax payers money on idiots who waste tax payers money......
Posted by: wb at March 31, 2007 04:55 PM (0HmJb)
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I see Jessie Jackson, Hilarious Hillarys' best friend has come out for Barrack HUSSEIN Jomama. I agree with Jessie. Jomama is the least of two evils.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 31, 2007 09:03 PM (P64nD)
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you're probably right, ohmama would let the polls tell him what to do as hillary would do what ever she could to finish killing America and then blame it on the poles. ( men)
More Evidence Europe Afraid of Its Muslim Citizens
I want to just chalk this up to the EU being full of John Edwardses, but I think there's more going on here. Sure, Europeans have long since surrendered to multiculturalism and social relativism, so that's part of it.
But there's more here, just beneath the surface. It's not so much that offending Muslims is the problem, as is the very real possibility that if you offend enough of them, you might just get yourself killed.
The European Union has drawn up guidelines advising government spokesmen to refrain from linking Islam and terrorism in their statements. Brussels officials have confirmed the existence of a classified handbook which offers “non-offensive†phrases to use when announcing anti-terrorist operations or dealing with terrorist attacks. Banned terms are said to include “jihadâ€, “Islamic†or “fundamentalistâ€.
Since we cannot use the terms "Islamic fundamentalists", or "jihadis", what exactly are we going to call the Islamic fundametalist jihadis?
"Deliberately led into traps, forced to bow before youths still holding a Molotov cocktail in their hands (knowing that this low life will be set free the next day), forced to watch youths break windows in the name of Allah, and then being accused of 'brutality' because of a simple ID verification..."
Followed by:
Support Your National Police
before the inevitable civil war and before... that!
Tolerance comes with a price. And there is a breaking point.
Posted by: Jason Briggs at March 30, 2007 11:49 AM (Nhfns)
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Ban the "act of jihad" not the word. Offensive...spit....
Posted by: allahahachew at March 30, 2007 12:06 PM (BrndJ)
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Hmm, so what they're saying is that local French jihadists are forcing local cops to surrender?
Posted by: Northern Cross at March 30, 2007 02:12 PM (Jwdal)
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isn't it wonderful to see socialism and liberalism at it's best? wittness the demise of france. so long, you were nothing but a f-ing burden and got us into 3 wars with your bullshit.
Posted by: wb at March 30, 2007 03:06 PM (L3O5+)
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At last! At last. WB says something that makes sense to Greyrooster. Yes the damn French have been a burden on American for years. They and their wars have caused the second most American deaths of anyone.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 30, 2007 03:40 PM (TRmKF)
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second biggest loss of American life.... you're still pissed about that whole civil war thing aren't you. well for what it's worth, it couldn't be avoided. Several states wanted to deal with the issue at the time of the declaration and couldn't because the other states wouldn't agree to fight against the brits. so they made a deal and there was hell to pay later. But there's a lesson in that GR. Deal with your problems now and it doesn't come back 10 fold. They did the best they could. So maybe it's time to let it go. Keeping old divisions around doesn't help the cause. You can't change what everyone else does, just yourself. Good luck with that.
Posted by: wb at March 30, 2007 06:15 PM (L3O5+)
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Fuck ya! But I'm impressed that you figured it out. And you are wrong. If the damn muslim and black slavers were not in business the issue never would have happened. Just dream. America without ghettos, Jessie Jackson or rap music. Ahhhh. For the good ole days. Fact is a Mexican can outpick anyone, anytime without mugging the passers by or joining the muslims. When dem cotton bols get rotten you can't pick very much cotton in dem ole California fields back home. Chitterlings or Burritos? Burritos every time.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 31, 2007 01:18 AM (LDOOz)
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okay, were you just singing leadbelly like speedy gonzales? It doesn't surpise me that you would reach for the little donkey , given what it's named for.
Posted by: wb at March 31, 2007 05:10 PM (0HmJb)
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A Mexican knows the difference between a cantalope and a crenshaw melon. Once again proving their superiority. Tacos or watermelon. Tacos everytime.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 31, 2007 09:14 PM (P64nD)
Cat Stevens: The Singing Taliban Misogynist & His Islamic Cultural ImperialismCat Stevens, aka ‘Yusuf Islam', is back on the radar screen. This time, for refusing to talk to women who were unveiled. Apparently, he was at an awards ceremony in Germany where he was the honored guest for 'building bridges betwen the West and Muslim world', but he refused to talk to his unveiled hosts. Charles Johnson has the details.
Building bridges? Perhaps, but the only bridges being built by 'Mr. Islam' seem to lead back to the 15th century.
Cat Stevens is held up by the press and entertainment industry as a 'model Muslim'. In addition to the German award, this year he performed at the Nobel Peace Prize ceremony!
Perhaps it is because his songs are so full of themes of peace, or because he is so soft spoken. His mannerism make him appear to be tolerant. But, like most Salafis, scratch the surface and you will see their intolerance and barbarism just underneath.
Here is a man who won't talk to any women who are not veiled. A man who supports Islamic supremacism. A man who supports the imposition of sharia (Islamic) law. A man who wishes to make it illegal to criticize a religious figure he deems a prophet.
Sure, he speaks in near whispers. But have you ever studied the mannerisms of Osama bin Laden or Ayman al-Zawahiri? Yes, he speaks often of peace. As do even the most radical Wahhabis---the peace that comes with submission to Islamic rule.
Not that he is a bin Laden supporter or a Wahhabi, but the point is that speaking of 'peace' in soft tones does not make one a rolemodel. Not when that peace is really the peace of a submissive slave.
Cat Stevens, from what I gather, used to be much worse. He used to support terrorism. He used to hang out with terrorists. Of course, he, like many Muslims, defined 'terrorism' and 'terrorst' in such a way as to exclude his friends and their actions (because killing Jews is always somehow 'not terrorism' but 'legitimate resistance'). He is even publicly on the record as supporting the death penalty for those that would dare blaspheme Islam.
For Allah's sake, before 9/11 he even wrote a song praising the Taliban!
A woman who lost her husband in the 2004 Madrid train bombings displayed an infamous cartoon mocking the Prophet Mohammad on her T-shirt in front of 29, mostly Muslim, suspects on trial for the attacks on Monday.
The woman's white T-shirt showed Mohammad wearing a bomb as a turban -- one of a series published by Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten which unleashed violent protests by some Muslims last year....
The woman sat in the front row of the court wearing the T-shirt for around half-an-hour before getting up, walking up to the glass cage containing the defendants and finally walking out of the court, judicial sources said.
Somebody find that woman, and give her a big kiss from me, will ya?
UPDATE: I'm guessing this is the shirt (the white version of it). Oddly, the story linked by Flap (where I grabbed the image) shows the shirt made by Metrospy. But their website no longer has the shirt, even though the story claims it was their best selling shirt of the year.
I'd like to offer her my condolences as well, and buy her a tall frosty glass of Sangria to celebrate her courage.
It's a sad day for Spain when the women have to show the men what it means to have balls.....
Respects,
Posted by: Gwedd at March 26, 2007 03:09 PM (SfKUJ)
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Observe how this grieving widow "discriminates". The spaniards are secularized, wussified Liberal pussies. I would know, half my family is from there. My guess is they'll react more angrily to this grieving widow for her "bigotry" than they will towards the islamotards who killed her husband.
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I'd say the fact that the terrorists are on trial, and the woman isn't, might contradict that. There wussification takes other forms. My guess is that we'll see it when these guys get less than life sentences.
Posted by: Rusty at March 26, 2007 03:30 PM (JQjhA)
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That took alot of guts for her to do that. I am damn proud of her. Will others fall in her footsteps? Only time will tell.
Posted by: allahakchew at March 26, 2007 04:26 PM (BrndJ)
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This woman is a hero. We need to give her cult status. She deserves a shrine!!
Of course, it would just jeapordize her life....
Posted by: Mike at March 26, 2007 04:58 PM (e8Ct6)
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Looks like she has more balls than the rest of that whimpy country combined...
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at March 26, 2007 06:51 PM (ou0cx)
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I am sorry that the Tattooine Intel Support Element failed you oh dear Sith Lord. We are working on tracking down Imperials that were taken by some Tusken Raiders.
Posted by: Pete at March 26, 2007 07:52 PM (lmVx8)
I hope she can heal from the pain, but that she always remains a fighter. I do salute her courage, but in my own experience it is sometimes easier to BE brave when your pain seems unbearable.
On that note, I do want her to get some healing. I know this comment seems a distraction, but imagine her loss. She must be in terrible pain.
I hope the killers recieve punishment appropriate to the crime.
I hope she can get her life back somehow.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 26, 2007 08:51 PM (2OHpj)
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Playing the movie "El Cid" backwards gets better reviews in some North African countries.
Pray for this lady in the upcoming re-reconquista.
Posted by: RicardoVerde at March 26, 2007 08:51 PM (zW/QU)
Posted by: allahahachew at March 27, 2007 02:29 AM (BrndJ)
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we didn't e-mail your Rusty due to the current ROE. You did send us the new one in the last memo correct? ;-) by they way the good lady has STONES.. God Bless her,
I love to kill each one of them bastards with my bare hands.
Posted by: Rubin at March 27, 2007 02:51 AM (0+bZl)
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She rocks man, that is the best story I have heard all year!!! she is the shit. Dhimmitude no longer need apply when you have nothing to lose.
Posted by: Rightmom at March 27, 2007 09:38 AM (0lpqx)
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Rooster! You 've changed your heart after all! You'd marry this woman? That's great!!! She's black. Let's see, are they zeoosters or better yet.... roosbas, I like that one sounds more in yo face.
Posted by: wb at March 27, 2007 09:50 PM (26qW5)
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I dont care what she looks like , to me she is a TEN : ))
Posted by: gandolf101 at March 28, 2007 01:02 AM (2YOTT)
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gandolf old boy.... you couldn't be anymore correct!
More Evidence of Saddam Hussein's Ties to International Terror Uncovered
Saddam Hussein's Greek embassy providing material support to terrorists? Apparently, yes:
Ekathimerini reported that it had been made aware of "a joint operation by Greek and US secret service officers in March 2003 (which) led to the seizure of a large cache of explosives from the basement of the Iraqi Embassy in Athens."
The types of explosives reportedly discovered were particularly noteworthy.
"Sources said a raid on the embassy unearthed explosive materials, car bombs, detonators, several guns and dozens of rounds of ammunition. Much of the material was “ready to use†while some was too old to be of any value, according to sources who said all the material was destroyed within a few weeks of discovery."
Givn the number of bombings in Greece in the post-Cold War era, and given this evidence, one wonders whether Saddam provided material support to the Leftwing terrorists responsible?
1Hmmm, where are all the left tards screaming out their diatribes that the evidence is forged and this proves nothing? Oh yea that’s right the left tards ignore any and every bit of evidence that might prove how wrong they were and continue to be regarding the current war in Iraq and the war on terror in general.
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 22, 2007 11:02 PM (2OHpj)
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Sounds like that judge came from the 9th curcut court
Posted by: sandpiper at March 22, 2007 11:27 PM (u2whF)
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I've been spreading "the good word" everywhere I see this article, but I think we can make sure it doesn't happen by beating the ever-living hell out of anyone who raises his hand against his wife. It's just that simple.
If we ever get to this point, it's because we're too chickensh*t to do what's necessary and right.
Posted by: Berkeley Non-Conformist at March 23, 2007 12:34 PM (9LPsb)
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The bitch is a muslim. You make your bed you lie in it. Any woman stupid enough to be a muslim and can read the Koran deserves what she gets. I think her husband should kick the muslim right out of her.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 23, 2007 09:32 PM (jNRRK)
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greyrooster, then her husband could justify beating her to death! Muslims are slaves, especially the women, and your right that they should realize this, but it can't be easy to leave a religion that kills whoever tries to have a better life. And I have been finding out just how ingrained the indoctrination is. It seems like these people need liberation from thier own tyranny, but how do you do that, when they are raised to reject that liberation?
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 25, 2007 04:52 AM (2OHpj)
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and please try to understand, she is probably suffers from chronic dysfunction associated with the harsh home life she has endured. Battered women do get worn down, and become emotionally sick. This is not something I think should be treated dismissively. Any man reading this might well wonder what it would be like for your own wife, if the fates had decided to have her born a Muslim, in a Muslim community. She would have been raised up as almost a child. She would lack moral, and legal equality, and she woud be conditioned to believe that it was her lot, and her destiny. I say it takes a lot of strength to throw off the shackles placed on ones mind. Have a heart. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 25, 2007 05:01 AM (2OHpj)
Giulania Sgrena: The Lie Continues
Giuliana Sgrena is in the news again. It seems that she and her lawyers have convinced an Italian judge that the unfortunate shooting which killed her escort, Italian Nicola Calipari, was not only "murder" but "politically motivated". The American servicemen charged will now be tried in abstentia because the "murder" of Calipari and the "attempted murder" of Sgrena was part of some larger political plot.
It's not so much that we care that Giuliana Sgrena thinks herself so important that she believed the CIA was out to shut her up.
I mean, Sgrena works for Il Manifesto, the Communist Party operated Italian newspaper. She admitted she was in Iraq to document "America's war crimes". Her allegations in print went so far as to accuse the U.S. of using "nuclear weapons" in Iraq. She was abducted while on her way to interview Sunni refugees from Fallujah who "swore" that the U.S. was "targetting civilians with napalm". So, we expect her to believe all sorts of nutty things.
But what really has me bothered is that an Italian judge could buy into such ludicrious accusations as to even merit a trial. What next, and indictment against the Karl Rove for his role in the Illuminati plot to create a one-world government?
PS--Remember, this is the same Giuliana Sgrena who urged her terrorist captors to do a second take on her hostage video.....so she would be seen crying.
A judge Wednesday ordered a U.S. soldier to stand trial in absentia for the fatal shooting of an Italian intelligence agent at a checkpoint in Baghdad, the prosecutor said.
Spc. Mario Lozano is indicted for murder and attempted murder in the death of Nicola Calipari, who was shot on March 4, 2005, on his way to the Baghdad airport shortly after securing the release of an Italian journalist who had been kidnapped in the Iraqi capital, prosecutor Pietro Saviotti said.
Another agent, who was driving the car, and the journalist, Giuliana Sgrena, were wounded.
"This looks to me like the first step on a long road toward truth and justice, and I hope justice will come in the end," said a visibly emotional Rosa Calipari, the agent's widow...
According to prosecutors, the judge said in his ruling that Lozano can be tried for "political murder," because Calipari was a civil servant and his slaying damaged Italy's interests.
Italian law does not allow foreigners charged with killing Italians abroad to be tried in absentia unless the murder has political connotations, prosecutors have said in the past.
1What next, and indictment against the Karl Rove for his role in the Illuminati plot to create a one-world government?
Dude - its so obvious. Unless, Rusty, you're a Rovian agent planted to throw us all off...
Posted by: Good Lt at February 07, 2007 05:47 PM (D0TMh)
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Now that you're on to me, be afraid. Be very afraid.
Posted by: Rusty at February 07, 2007 05:49 PM (JQjhA)
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Sgrena is a horrid creature and should be ignored. It is unfortunate that the US soldier name is being dragged through the dirt.
However, whatever stratgegy our State Department is using to deal with these cases is not working. They will need to get much tougher.
Posted by: kate at February 07, 2007 06:27 PM (+mSci)
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Oh, and that political implications bit. It was used in the past to try SS officers in absentia for real war crimes it Italy. The fact they are using this on our innocent soldier is a blood libel and a insult to our country. Our State Department types need to get angry. All they say is we still have good relations with Italy blah, blah, blah....
We should also remind tthe Italians that the American Servicemember Protection Act applies here plus we could issue a terrorism warning for Italy right before the tourist season, they hate it when that happens.
I feel sorry for Lozano. From what I've read he seems like an excellent soldier and is really upset over this incident.
Posted by: kate at February 07, 2007 06:32 PM (+mSci)
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Rusty, why are you surprised that an Italian judge is taking this seriously when it probably wouldn't be too hard to find a Carter-appointed judge to do the very same thing?
Posted by: slug at February 07, 2007 06:43 PM (Mlgws)
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It's pointless since the guy will not be turned over to Italy. It is sad that an Italian hero was killed though. He was just an agent doing his job.
Posted by: John Doe at February 07, 2007 07:26 PM (SYd2E)
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Look George Bush and Dick Cheney worked with notorious liar Doug Feith to pass off "ludicrous accusations" against Saddam's
long abandoned WMDs. it kind of set the stage for accepting
"ludicrous accusations" related to the war, eh Rusty?
Posted by: Ken Hoop at February 07, 2007 08:40 PM (7GYBH)
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I wish she had been killed also. I have nothing but distrust and hatred for all "press" and never lose any sleep when one of them is offed nosing around in an area where they have no business being, especially filth like her that put a severe spin on everything according to her own irrelevant opinions and report it as "news". Fuck her.
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at February 07, 2007 08:49 PM (CtVG6)
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This really isn't surprising at all. Many European Judges and
prosecutors have been engaging in this type of purely political
activity for quite a while. After the cold war ended any member of a
former American ally who would visit Europe could face arrest for
crimes against humanity but to the best of my knowledge they never
tried the same with communist leaders who had ordered similar
atrocities. Hell....Gorbachev was ordering the murders of innocent
civilians in the Baltic States in 1991 in a last ditch attempt to quell
their revolution. And there were plenty more executions he ordered
before that.Was it ever suggested that they arrest him. Fuck no. The
Euros gave him parades and hailed him as a hero.
Posted by: Randman at February 07, 2007 09:03 PM (Sal3J)
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What a joke. This will go nowhere--this is another communist nutcase hoping to fulfill the communist dream (which is really a nightmare).
You're a disgrace to Italians like me, Ms. Sgrena.
Posted by: Richard Romano at February 07, 2007 09:32 PM (/2Xsz)
Are you saying that the Italian judge suffers from the same BDS that you do, or that lying about the mission in Iraq is hunky dory so long as it serves the greater "good" of Marxism?
Save it for the incoming freshman class, dildo.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 08, 2007 09:39 AM (Dt3sl)
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It's like the night of the living dead, where these raving wackjob leftards just keep resurfacing. Has the left been practicing voodoo?
Posted by: William Teach at February 08, 2007 09:40 AM (doAuV)
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I'm saying, with the very Right Paul Craig Roberts, a war based on lies revealed early on, naturally breeds everything from broad mistrust, other possible lies told with significantly increased rationale for evening out the scoreboard, and also sharpened intensity for
truthtelling.
So let the courts decide. Speaking of courts, the last surviving judge at Nuremberg says Bush also belongs in a similar court.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at February 08, 2007 03:36 PM (DZbll)
I see. You're saying that the Italian judge suffers from the same BDS that you do, and that lying about the mission in Iraq is hunky dory so long as it serves the greater "good" of Marxism.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 08, 2007 04:18 PM (Dt3sl)
I am saying that anyone who beleives Bush didn't lie about the nature of the intelligence writ large to the American people is a
political Moonie. That evidently means you, Barfer.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at February 08, 2007 08:44 PM (7GYBH)
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Ken POOP: "I never had sex with that women Ms Lewinski. Never not one time" And you say Bush lies. Asshole.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 08, 2007 09:37 PM (ZAZT9)
Getting things ass-backwards seems to be your forte. A leftie that projects? How unusual!
Antbody who believes Bush lied about intelligence in the run up to the Iraq War has shit for brains. Anybody who expects rational people to believe this canard is equally stupid. Which category of stupidity do you fall in?
Being a leftist means never having to admit you're a lying simp.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 09, 2007 08:38 AM (Dt3sl)
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It does mean that this kid can never again take a vacation anywhere in the EU, or in any third world country that likes to suck up to the EU.
Posted by: holdfast at February 12, 2007 12:26 AM (Gzb30)
Wonder why Castro isn't on their list of criminals. He's done a few crimes against humanity during his 40 years of rule.
Posted by: Gary at January 26, 2007 02:39 PM (G2NG3)
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There is no strategic reason for even "Right/Nationalist" European
politicians to side with US foreign policy as it relates to the Mideast.
Exhibit ONE-Jean Marie Le Pen. TWO-the British National Party.
Both anti-immigrant and anti-Iraq War.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at January 26, 2007 08:29 PM (7GYBH)
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The friggin spanish were ruled by the muslims for hundreds of years. That was before rubbers or the pill. What do you expect from them?
Posted by: greyrooster at January 28, 2007 01:31 AM (w+w6p)
Greek Communists Claim Embassy Attack
A left-wing group in Greece has claimed today's attack on the Greek embassy. The Group, The Revolutionary People's Struggle (ELA), has a long history of attacking both Greek government and American targets. The group is a Marxist organization committed to revolutionary struggle.
The group is said to have been disbanded in the late 1990s. Apparently, they haven't. The group has come to call itself 'the Revolutionary Nuclei' (RN), but apparently some prefer the old name. Today, the U.S. State Department has RN on its list, but not ELA. RN is viewed as the successor organization to the ELA.
A leftist group has reportedly claimed responsibility for a rocket attack on the US embassy in Athens.
The Greek government said it had received two calls claiming the guerrilla group Revolutionary Struggle was behind the attack.....
The Revolutionary Struggle claimed an assassination attempt against Greece's culture minister in May and a bomb at the Economy Ministry which wounded two people 13 months ago.
There may also be a connection with the fact that one of the people arrested by the U.S. forces at the Iranian consulate in Iraqi Kurdistan is the IRI's primary terrorism strategist and tactician by the name Hassan Abbasi. This bastard has links with just about any terrorist organization with an aggendum against any or all Western countries. This of course includes the Marxist terrorists in Europe and Japan. This guy (Abbasi) once claimed to be in control of terrorist cells targeting U.S. and other western interests.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at January 12, 2007 01:19 PM (vixLB)
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So, being a Communist, anti-American terror organization, that means they're getting funding from the State Department, right?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 12, 2007 01:50 PM (6zYAC)
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Last years constantly misquoted National Security Estimate predicted a probable increase in terrorist attacks by left-wing organizations against American targets at home and abroad. Not that the Establishment Media reported that.
The unhinged contumacy displayed by leftists at this site is a good example of the seething pot of hatred and misplaced discontent that feeds terrorist activity. Islamic terrorist organizations can easily dip into it for proxies in their mutual war against mankind, and leftists don't need any prodding to make war against America on their own.
I'm surprised we haven't seen more attacks than we have.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 12, 2007 02:11 PM (abVz3)
Four Islamists Convicted, Ayan Hirsi Ali a TargetSamir Azzouz, Nouredine al Fatmi, Soumaya Sahla al Fatmi, & Mohammed Chentouf have been convicted by a Dutch Court for a plan to bring terrorism to that country. The hit list included Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende and Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
Azzouz is connected to a group which produced the killer of Theo Van Gogh.
Two problems with the convictions? 1) 8 years for plotting terrorism? The guy had already made a shahid suicide video! Makes you wonder what kind of sentence he would have received had he actually succeeded in murdering Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Ten years? 2) Dutch prison. Not exactly of the federal pound-me-in-the-ass variety so common in the US.
In any event, at least he's off the streets. And since he beat the rap the first time, it just goes to show that perserverence on the part of law enforcement sometimes yields results. MORE BELOW.more...
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They are slime. They belong in 'the chair' for plotting the murder of Ayaan and others.
Posted by: RepJ at December 01, 2006 07:05 PM (rqlgb)
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Wow! 8 years. Wonder how early they will let em out
Posted by: Randman at December 01, 2006 08:15 PM (Sal3J)
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Why did they get less time for not being in an official terrorist organization. (last line of WaPo excerpt). I can understand a difference in sentencing between someone who robs a store with just a threat and someone who brandishes a gun, but if two guys both blow themselves up on busses, killing the same number of victims, why would one get a lighter sentence just because he wasn't 'officially' a terrorist. Does not compute.
Posted by: Bryce at December 01, 2006 08:42 PM (u7iOe)
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oh such a charming young man, the glasses make him so so.... ...sophistictated! maybe the west need to search for root causes...
Posted by: noname at December 01, 2006 09:47 PM (Sp3y2)
Better than nothing is right Ghayrooster. Were is that darn nearly immobile Osama been Forgotten AGAIN?
Posted by: Frank Booth at December 02, 2006 08:18 PM (rIWvK)
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Catch Ben Laden and create a marytr. How many innocent people would die during hiss 3 yr long trial? Perhaps someone is playing it smart. He's a sick fuck who really isn't doing a thing except running his mouth. If it's really him and he's not buried somewhere.
Posted by: Greyrooster at December 03, 2006 10:30 AM (5vGBy)
Germany to Charge Rumsfeld Over Abu Ghraib?Yawn. More Euorweenies doing what Euroweenies do best. I'd like to see a German court try to extradite Rumsfeld or Gonzales.
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Makes you wonder what those idiots are thinking and whose side they're really on?
The question is, just who in the hell are they going to send over here to pick him up?
Posted by: dick at November 10, 2006 03:04 PM (XlQVK)
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Could be that Nacy Pelosi will want to have first crack at them.
Posted by: John Ryan at November 10, 2006 03:08 PM (TcoRJ)
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No American will be sent to Europe to face any stupid war crime tribunal. If the Democrats are stupid enough to participate in this stupidity, their reign will be the shortest in history.
I just got off the phone with my Democratic representative's local office, and his spokesman assured me that he will oppose this action and any other like it. Good on him. He is not a moonbat.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 10, 2006 03:21 PM (8PoNP)
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I'd just like to see them give a serious sentence to a terrorist that
they don't let walk. This whole thing about indicting Rumsfeld is
just posturing and grand standing. Screw 'em.
Posted by: Oyster at November 10, 2006 03:47 PM (UeUAE)
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It's nothing but a farce, Oyster. The terrorists are filing a lawsuit in a German court, doing nothing more than just shopping for a jurisdiction that allows such a thing. The German Government will never allow such a thing to come to fruition.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 10, 2006 04:08 PM (8PoNP)
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Oh, and by the way, good to have you back, Oyster. I miss your intelligent comments. I wish Graeme would come back as a regular commenter.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 10, 2006 04:29 PM (8PoNP)
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Thanx, JJ. Graeme was quick on his feet. I liked him too.
Instead I see you have have return of the creature from the Black
Lagoon - greg. And sundry, left thinking, dingbats who think a
quick turn of phrase, an insut and glib slogans are a substitute for
debate. I've been hanging around Wizbang a bit and lemme tells
ya. Their resident trolls are:
U. G. L. Y.
they ain't got no alibi
Posted by: Oyster at November 10, 2006 05:04 PM (UeUAE)
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Is it Germany - the country? - or the UN? or the EU? that is suing? Even though it does sound ridiculous, I find this development troubling. The left always favors some sort of uber-state over national interests.
As if "international law" trumps national law, and national interests. As far as I can see, really, the only international "law "- which trumps all else - is that "might is right." That's why we need victory in the wars we fight.
But the left is suicidal, and does not wish America to prevail.
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at November 10, 2006 06:09 PM (bF+Yg)
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The plaintiffs are Iraqis, not Germans. The plaintiffs are supported by an American NGO, not a German NGO. They want to have a criminal investigation in Germany, but it is doubtful whether they will get one.
German prosecutors have dismissed similar cases in the past.
This is explained in more detail here:
http://atlanticreview.org/archives/484-guide.html
Posted by: Jorg at November 10, 2006 07:43 PM (TV3r3)
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Thanks, Jorg, for the info. Some of us had already figured this out.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 10, 2006 08:51 PM (8PoNP)
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at November 10, 2006 08:59 PM (bF+Yg)
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Dr. S., Mo-slimes have tried these sort of stunts before and every time their claim has been thrown out of court. They are just doing this as a harassment tactic against U.S. government personnel.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at November 11, 2006 12:22 PM (1juA+)
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this seems rather serious to me. first off, i'm not against having
rumsfeld charged. the fact is, there were crimes committed and we can't
discount high level involvment, but I really don't think this will go
anywhere.
Posted by: Wayne at November 11, 2006 10:39 PM (mCe9W)
German MP Threatened Over Headscarf Remarks
All religions are the same alert. A German parliamentarian of Turkish background, Ekin Deligöz, has received police protection after encouraging other Muslim women to stop wearing headscarves.
She received death threats by some Turkish men. I'm assuming they are all radical Buddhists, but who can tell?
The Green party member has received death threats for calling on Muslim women to take off their headscarves and to embrace German society and values two weeks ago. "You live here, so take your headscarf off," Deligöz was quoted by the Bild am Sonntag newspaper as saying.
In addition to the threats, she has also been the victim of a negative media campaign in Turkey with tabloid stories comparing her to the Nazis. In a letter of complaint written to the Turkish Ambassador by the head of the Green Party Renate Künast, she indicated that Deligöz had been "insulted in writing, by telephone, and also in person ... overwhelmingly by Turkish men."
It's interesting how the article frames the debate as one of conflict between immigrants and German values and not one of Muslims and Western values.
After its premiere in 2003, the production by Hans Neuenfels drew widespread criticism over the scene in which King Idomeneo presents the severed heads not only of the Greek god of the sea, Poseidon, but also of Muhammad, Jesus and Buddha. The disputed scene is not part of Mozart's original staging of the 225-year-old opera, but was an addition of Neuenfels' production, which was last performed by the company in March 2004.
Now, Misha's commenter is dismissing this as something akin to the painting of the Virgin Mary with cow dung, or maybe the infamous Piss Christ. Yanno, "modern art."
I'm more than inclined to agree. As a matter of fact, I'm surprised that that the director didn't just take Mohammed out of the equation, and let the opera run.
However, if you read that whole story as linked, the guy refused to alter the scene.
So we have to give him credit for displaying cojones not normally found on the European continent these days.
And, while this blog has no love for the Ottomans, this guy gets a thumbs up:
The leader of Germany's Turkish Community said that while he could understand how the production could be seen as offensive, he also encouraged Muslims living in the West to accept certain elements of the traditions here, noting an opera production is not equivalent to a political point of view.
"I would recommend Muslims learn to accept certain things," Kenan Kolat told the online Netzeitung newspaper. "Art must remain free."
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Modern day directors and such are changing the scenery in many operas, and it is quite confusing. They've done a rendentions of Wagner operas where the people wear suits and cocktail dresses with stark scenery. Whatever. It's the music I'm more concerned with. I would prefer they stick with what the original masters wanted. I'm not fond of this particular kind of artistic license.
That being said, they should not be backing down to Muslim bullying on such thing, and fatwa on Der Spiegel for showing that picture in their magazine. I hope their employees have guns.
Posted by: RepJ at September 27, 2006 09:26 AM (XXEg4)
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They toss and turn, revamp and struggle, recycle and rehash, makeover and turnover, but all their futile efforts leave sooo much to be desired. However, as long as they can keep the lines streaming their aim is achieved. I declared a fatwa on modern day movies and plays long ago and refuse to watch anything that was not made during the Gonewith the Wind and the Anne of Green Gables era. I do try, but am direly dissappointed every doggone time! Oh, the tragedy of it all .... oh, the theatrics ....
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Posted by: Last gasp Larry at September 27, 2006 08:35 PM (Dd86v)
Oriani Fallaci, anti-dhimmitude activist, RIPOriana Fllaci has died. A hero devoted to upholding the values of Western Civilization. A voice of warning in Europe's wilderness.
Veteran journalist and writer Oriana Fallaci, a former war correspondent best known for her abrasive interviews and provocative stances, has died, Italian news reports said Friday. She was 76....
Fallaci, a former Resistance fighter and war corespondent who was hardly seen in public, had lived in New York for years....
Her recent publications _ including the best-selling book "The Rage and The Pride," which came out weeks after the Sept. 11, 2001 _ drew accusations of inciting hatred against Muslims.
What WAPO fails to mention is the reason for the Italian journalist being in New York. She was in exile from a country which has enacted draconian hate speech laws. Fallaci's crime was for "defaming Islam".
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How sad. I loved her books. She had been struggling with cancer for years and finally lost the fight. RIP.
Posted by: Matt at September 15, 2006 08:29 AM (sHrBm)
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How sad. I loved her books. She had been struggling with cancer for years and finally lost the fight. RIP.
Posted by: Matt at September 15, 2006 08:29 AM (sHrBm)
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What you say is right. But it can be said that her attitude was even more valuable since she changed her mind in a moment, something that torn her from her former life and beliefs and threw her out of "intellectual" life in Europe for some years.
Posted by: Pablo at September 15, 2006 08:33 AM (VPvXe)
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sounds like an incredible lady, I've never heard of her before but am likely to read the book mentioned now. may she rest in peace.
Posted by: ian, uk at September 15, 2006 09:05 AM (GGh+c)
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I just bought her latest book a couple weeks ago. I'm sad to hear of her passing on. What a great lady.
Posted by: Oyster at September 15, 2006 09:14 AM (4wby6)
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at September 15, 2006 09:35 AM (fIUHw)
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What a remarkable human being is gone! Out of the silent timid hundreds of millions with their mouths shut by the ugly political correctness, she spoke her mind so passionately and valiantly. I feel like I lost a beloved sister...
Posted by: Igor A., CT, USA at September 15, 2006 10:24 AM (LVK5z)
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she was not "in exile" due to "draconian hate speech laws." she has lived in new york for many years.
Posted by: tim thomas at September 15, 2006 10:46 AM (56rPU)
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She can rest knowing that she did her part. It's a big loss for Europe, but sadly they'll never realise it.
Posted by: Graeme at September 15, 2006 11:12 AM (8hZkN)
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Tim – I disagree with you. The reason she lived in NY for many years is because the “progressive†governments of Italy, France and Germany declared her “persona non grata†in the early 90’s. When she was in any of these progressive countries in the late 80’s and early 90’s she was hounded by the government of whichever country she was in spending lots of time in court and lots of money on lawyers. This century she was tried in absentia in France for one of her racist, xenophobic stories.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at September 15, 2006 11:44 AM (Z/8cE)
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A light went off. A very bright light in the West. One of the few left to guide us on rough and threatening seas. I will miss her. Go with God, Oriani.
Posted by: jesusland joe at September 15, 2006 03:12 PM (rUyw4)
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All of you who defend Oriani Fallaci's right to demonise Islam, do you also defend Mel Gibson's right to demonize Judaism?
Posted by: Randll Jones at September 15, 2006 07:59 PM (cFe7D)
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All of you who defend Oriani Fallaci's right to demonise Islam, do you also defend Mel Gibson's right to demonize Judaism?
Posted by: Randll Jones at September 15, 2006 08:01 PM (cFe7D)
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Shut up and fuck off Randall you apologist piece of shit lefturd.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 15, 2006 09:15 PM (v3I+x)
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A truly courageous woman is gone!
With my utmost respect and admiration for the
strenght of Oriana's convictions and the power with which she delivered them.
I will miss you>
Vic Val
Posted by: Vic Val at September 17, 2006 12:11 AM (YakdY)
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A truly courageous woman is gone!
With my utmost respect and admiration for the
strenght of Oriana's convictions and the power with which she delivered them.
I will miss you.
Vic Val
Posted by: Vic Val at September 17, 2006 12:11 AM (YakdY)
you are a Jew hater - and you are defending the religion of beheadings brought into the world by the 7th century nomad who had delusions that allah spoke to him.
the koran verse surah 47 verse 4 is what is used to justify beheadings. there is nothing in the old testament that does that.
furthermore this year in the country where the religion of beheadings originated [saudi arabia] between january 1 2006 until september 4 2006 there has been 86 beheadings.
Posted by: i get drunk with ted kennedy at September 18, 2006 10:10 AM (x7j31)
you are a Jew hater - and you are defending the religion of beheadings brought into the world by the 7th century nomad who had delusions that allah spoke to him.
the koran verse surah 47 verse 4 is what is used to justify beheadings. there is nothing in the old testament that does that.
furthermore this year in the country where the religion of beheadings originated [saudi arabia] between january 1 2006 until september 4 2006 there has been 86 beheadings.
Posted by: i get drunk with ted kennedy at September 18, 2006 10:10 AM (x7j31)
you are a Jew hater - and you are defending the religion of beheadings brought into the world by the 7th century nomad who had delusions that allah spoke to him.
the koran verse surah 47 verse 4 is what is used to justify beheadings. there is nothing in the old testament that does that.
furthermore this year in the country where the religion of beheadings originated [saudi arabia] between january 1 2006 until september 4 2006 there has been 86 beheadings.
Posted by: i get drunk with ted kennedy at September 18, 2006 10:10 AM (x7j31)
Can you say Black Widow? Yesterday I reported that Tunisian Moez Garsallaoui and his Belgian wife Malika al-Aroud had been convicted in a Swiss court for running a number of al Qaeda propaganda website. You'll recall that they both claimed they had no knowledge about what was being said on the website. Let me assure you that the al-Minbar websites, run by the couple, were some of the most vile pro-violent jihad websites out there.
Cat Stevens, aka ‘Yusuf Islam', is back on the radar screen. This time, for refusing to talk to women who were unveiled. Apparently, he was at an awards ceremony in Germany where he was the honored guest for 'building bridges betwen the West and Muslim world', but he refused to talk to his unveiled hosts. Charles Johnson has the details.
This is just too good to be true. Pinch me.
Samir Azzouz, Nouredine al Fatmi, Soumaya Sahla al Fatmi, & Mohammed Chentouf have been convicted by a Dutch Court for a plan to bring terrorism to that country. The hit list included Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende and Ayaan Hirsi Ali. 
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Oriana Fllaci has died. A hero devoted to upholding the values of Western Civilization. A voice of warning in Europe's wilderness. 
