Nearly Half of British Mosques Run by Radicals
If 'moderates' want to do away with free speech--the ability to criticize their prophet--then imagine what the radicals are after. This week's Shire News Network podcast interviews Andrew Norfolk of the London Times who has spent the last nine months investigating Britain's mosques.
Almost half of Britain’s mosques are under the control of a hardline Islamic sect whose leading preacher loathes Western values and has called on Muslims to “shed blood†for Allah, an investigation by The Times has found.
Riyadh ul Haq, who supports armed jihad and preaches contempt for Jews, Christians and Hindus, is in line to become the spiritual leader of the Deobandi sect in Britain. The ultra-conservative movement, which gave birth to the Taleban in Afghanistan, now runs more than 600 of Britain’s 1,350 mosques, according to a police report seen by The Times.
What, me worry?
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Would-be Scottish Jihadi Convicted
A moment of honesty. Just keep reading until you see teh funny in it. AP at Breitbart:
A jury at Glasgow's High Court found Mohammed Atif Siddique, 21, guilty of four terrorism offenses and also of causing a disturbance by telling fellow students he planned to become a suicide bomber.
Siddique, from the town of Clackmannanshire in central Scotland, had stored and posted guides to bomb-making, guns and explosives on a network of Web sites, prosecutors said.
Defense lawyer Aamer Anwar claimed Siddique was merely conducting research into his religion and was the victim of heightened sensitivity fed by terror attacks.
Bomb-making guides. Yup, sounds like he was merely conducting research into his religion to me alright......
Oh, and there's a Canada connection too. Thanks to Andrew Breitbart for the tip.
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Video: Bakri Mohammed Followers Threaten Beckham, Timberlake, Usher?Howie e-mailed this story earlier this morning (another story here) which claims a new video threatens soccer superstars David Beckham, Wayne Rooney and Thierry Henry. The video is also said to threaten singers Justin Timberlake, Usher, M&M, and P. Diddy.
The story says the video was posted at Youtube by "a Glasgow-based website named after Al-Qaeda that encourages attacks on Westerners."
I immediately knew what website they were talking about and who was behind the video. The website is that of the followers of Omar Bakri Mohammed, Islam Base. "Base" in Arabic is "qaeda".
The website, which is run by the followers of the exiled radical cleric, was once registered to one of Britain's largest Islamic houses of worship, the Birmingham Central Mosque. After we exposed the connection, the website changed its registration to an address in Glasgow, Scotland.
Coincidence or not, that change in registration came only shortly before a cell of al Qaeda in Iraq linked doctors carried out acts of terror in Glasgow and London.
Several groups led by Bakri Mohammed were banned by the British government, but each time they ban a group the same followers simply form a new one. They now call themselves the followers of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah.
While the video is not up at the group's Youtube channel, it is up at their official website as an embedded Youtube video. I've posted the video below.
Another one of dujanah's subscribers is AbuMarwan23 who uses an image of Osama bin Laden as an avatar.
This story goes so far as to say that the celebrities shown in the video "are the targets of an alleged Al-Qaeda murder plot." Neil Doyle apparently believes that the video may be a prelude to setting up the soccer stars as potential al Qaeda targets. He cites the fact that Khalid Sheikh Mohammad has admitted that al Qaeda had plans to attack the World Cup in 2002.
After viewing the video, though, it seems less like a threat against the famous (as the story suggested) than a warning to Muslim youth not to follow the example of the famous. For instance, they call 2Pac Shakur "the follower of Satan" and say Snoop Dogg is "among the wrongdoers".
Hmmmm, for once they may have a point. I'm not sure about the hell part, but I'm pretty sure I don't want anyone's kids following the example of today's celebrities.
Neil may be right in his analysis of the video, but he cites the images of graves, for instance, as an implicit threat. However, given the context of the sermon, it seems to me that the grave images are simply a reminder to the target audience that everyone will eventually die and then a day of judgment will come.
I have no doubt that the Salafis who are behind the sermon would love to put Justin Timberlake to death-- sex outside of marriage is punishable by the death penalty under their desired version of Islamic law-- but I don't see this video as an overt death threat.
I hate to be put in the position of defending Omar Bakri Mohammed's minions, but they are guilty of far worse and of threatening a lot of other people--including the Pope! And there's also no doubt that they support al Qaeda--they named their website after bin Laden's group after all--and as such they are the enemy.
So, Posh Spice's hubby is safe--for now. At least until the Islamists come to power. After that, all bets are off.
Ujamaa Won't Testify, Hamza May Walk
Well, this sucks. Looks like American al Qaeda supporter James Ujaama is now refusing to cooperate in the prosecution of Abu Hamza al-Masri. His testimony is key to the case. Ujaama and Abu Hamza had attempted to set up a terrorist training camp in Oregon and both are al Qaeda supporters. On the one year anniversary of 9/11 he organized a conference praising the mass-murdering hijackers.
Notice that The Sun uses the word evil to describe Hamza? Ballsy.
The evil cleric — serving seven years in the UK for inciting murder and race hatred — faces extradition to the US on terror charges.
But supergrass James Ujaama, 41, has broken a deal he made with the FBI to escape charges of trying to set up a terrorist training camp with Hamza, 49.....
He now faces 30 years in jail and refuses to give evidence against Hamza.
Eight of 11 counts facing Hamza rest on Ujaama’s testimony.
If Hamza isn't extradited to the U.S., then he may be out on parole next year.
Via Little Green Footballs: The Islamic terrorist who tried to blow up Glasgow Airport, and fought off police and bystanders while blazing like a human torch, is an ex-terrorist.
Censoring Saudi Criticism
Bryan interviews Dr. Rachel Ehrenfel who is fighting back at wealthy Saudis using the British courts to silence critics. Listen here.
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What Indicted Muslim Says while out on Bail: "Terrorize them", "Kill Jews", "Support Global Jihad"
Mizanur Rahman was sentenced to 6 years in jail yesterday for inciting Muslims to murder after telling a crowd assembled to protest the Mohammed cartoons in front of the Danish embassy in London to "bomb the UK". Three others were also convicted with Rahman on related offenses, all of them followers of exiled cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed.
You'll recall that Rahman, Umran Javed, Abdul Muhid, and Abdul Saleem all claimed at trial that they did not really have "extremists views" and that they were "simply following others rather than leading the protests." Something I thought might be true, given that the rally organizers seemed to be Anjem Choudary and Abu Izadeen.
But what does this "not-an-extremist" do while he's out on bail awaiting trial? Has some nice voice chats with other "not extremist" Muslim followers of Omar Bakri Mohammed and former members of the now banned Al-Muhajiroun, Al Ghurabaa, and The Saved Sect --- now calling themselves the followers of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah.
Here's some audio of Mizanur Rahman on June 24th, 2006. He had been arrested on March 15th and was out on bail. The audio was recorded by Glen Jenvey and a colleague of his.
You go to the demonstration not to call them to Islam. You go to the demonstrations to anger them, to tease them, to make them terrified, to terrorize them, to support the jihad abroad. That is the whole point of the demonstration......
Yup, he was innocent all right.
On July 15th, he had more to say on the obligation all Muslims had to fight the infidels all over the world, including a prayer to Allah that the only Jews left in Israel would be in graves. UPDATE: Charles Johnson of LGF converted the file to MP3 format and has it up at his site now, so I've removed the link to my copy of it. Go listen to it at LGF.
Four Terror Suspects Arrested in Manchester
Why not just make this an all UK terrorism themed day? Three in the Manchester area have been picked up on terrorism related charges, and a fourth on related "immigration charges". Not much more information, but the charges are not related to the Glasgow and London bombings. I have some unconfirmed information about the arrests which I may share when more facts are known.
Anti-terrorism detectives said they arrested four men in Manchester on Wednesday after a tip-off warning of "the existence of a potential threat".
The arrests were made in the Stockport Road district of Longsight, Manchester and are linked to alleged terrorist activity in the area, a Greater Manchester Police spokeswoman said.
A fourth man was arrested under immigration legislation at an address in Hamilton Road, in the Longsight area of the city.
Police acted after receiving intelligence of alleged terrorist activity and the existence of a potential threat.
Are all terrorists dumb?
No, but the vast majority of them are. Hell if their doctors can't even carry off a suicide attack right, that should be a sign that high school dropouts may not be the best recruits. Allahu akhbar!News.com.au:
THE four would-be suicide bombers who attempted to blow themselves up in London two weeks after the deadly 2005 attacks failed because their ringleader could not do simple mathematics....
But Ibrahim, who failed maths at school, got his sums wrong when mixing the recipe, making the bombs - which were packed with nails and screws - harmless.
Hat tip: anonymous reader
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Toughie: Sharing Intel With Muslim Leaders
Allahpundit, as usual, has the scoop. The gist of the plan was to warn Muslim "community leaders" before terror raids.
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JERUSALEM – The thwarted car bombings in London last week and the terror attack against Scotland's busiest airport were "completely justified" and likely the beginning of many more attacks in Britain, a prominent UK Islamist leader connected to terror supporting groups told WND yesterday.
"There is no doubt whatsoever that there will continue to be attacks against the British government, its interests and the home front as long as we see the continued British and American occupation of Muslim land in Iraq and Afghanistan, support for criminal Israel, and draconian measures taken against Muslims in the UK," said Anjem Choudary, founder and former chief of two Islamic groups disbanded by the British authorities under antiterror legislation.
"A war is being waged against Muslims on every level. There are many in Britain who take their ideology from Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida and are ready to carry out many more attacks," Choudary said.
When I read that Rusty Humphries (who loves TJR by the way) was at last week's protest I emailed him and asked about what he saw there. Mr. Humphries emailed us some images and audio. I've wrapped them up into a single file and uploaded them to Google Video.
Mr. Humphries spoke to me about the possible connection between the knighthood of Sir Salman Rushdie and last week's failed bombings. He was worried no one was making the connection.
While I'm sure that provides some motivation for the attacks there has been chatter about possible attacks in Britain since late May. As you can hear in the audio above al-Qaeda and their supporters have many many so called justifications and motivations to kill us.
I feel the Sir Rushdie affair is just one of these. It may have changed the timing or possibly caused the attacks to by rushed out of anger. In all likelyhood attacks would be carried out regardless of his knighting. Mullah Dadullah called for renewed attacks on Britain well before Sir Rushdie was knighted.
They will scream about Rushdie to try and cast blame, to attempt to make us feel the bombings are our own fault. If not Sir Rushdie, they would think of another reason to blame us for their actions.
Also of note is the fact that although a British Muslim leader has said it is the duty of very British citizen to, "report suspected terrorists." These people do not consider themselves British citizens. They consider Muslims and Brits as seperate and do not recognize the authority of the UK government over them. They only recognize Britain's Shariah Islamic court which is led by Choudary.
The Central London Mosque is a favorite of Abu Izzadeen and where Omar The Goat Humping Bakri Muhammad preached his hate before fleeing the UK. More background below the fold.
though many British extremists are angered by the deaths of fellow Muslim across the world, what drove me and many others to plot acts of extreme terror within Britain and abroad was a sense that we were fighting for the creation of a revolutionary worldwide Islamic state that would dispense Islamic justice.
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What a shame. Someone could have used that carboard box that was behind the book. I bet we could use what is left for confetti the next time the Spurs win the championship.
mullah cimoc say him patriot true american people need worry for: 1. destroy usa economy,him big crashing to come and so much the suffer of ameriki people lose home, not have the job, and because only loving the money then the life have not meaning, except for sex pill, the meth drug, the slut with LBT (low back tattoo). So shame and destroying.
2. mind of ameriki so sick, loving the torture and even 7-11 cheese nacho but hate god. lesiban and homosexual now control all aemriki man. this why him so few aemriki having him gonad. so persecute ameriki man if have gonad.
3. divorce judge and lesbian take home.....then live in car....then jail. for so many ameriki soldier go usa see sick and want only the rope of guilty and shame.
him realize that so much the cruel and kill slaughter the human all for masters in tel aviv.
Posted by: mullah cimoc at July 02, 2007 12:40 AM (HEKPe)
I swear, what those ragheads really need is to be invited to a big ol' barbecue. Pulled pork, cold beer, slaw, and an evening of country music.
Maybe invite some of the Hooters girls over to liven things up.
For the barbecue, though, we could do a deep-pit and start the coals with a couple dozen copies of the koran. Keep another couple copies in the outhouse in case we run outta paper.
Heh. While the adults are busy, all the young'ns could be playing pin the tail on mohammad, or making cartoons of the prophet, etc.
Sounds like an all around good time to me.
Posted by: Gwedd at July 02, 2007 05:51 AM (xsmhm)
Posted by: Howie at July 02, 2007 09:25 AM (YHZAl)
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mullah cimoc: Hey don't need job or money or much else. I live in the promised land, where the corn is as high as an elephants eye. Eat your heartland out bitch. I'm supposed to be against this sort of thing but at the moment I just can't quite bring myself to give a rat's ass.
Posted by: Howie at July 02, 2007 09:28 AM (YHZAl)
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I'd like to welcome Mullah Cimoc from Salt Lake City, Utah to the forum.
Posted by: Howie at July 02, 2007 10:35 AM (YHZAl)
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Mullah cimon,
As regards "sickness of the mind" your pedophile pseudo-prophet has the market cornered on that.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at July 02, 2007 10:55 AM (EdIIN)
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Mullah Cimon,
Perhaps Americans like their creature comforts; but they bloody well earn those. While you Mo-slime parasites wish the same comforts but have neither the ingenuity to invent them nor the detachment to make do without them so you whine and nag and complain and riot and terrorize.
Americans at their worst are angelic next you fuckers at your best.
Fuck you mo-slime parasites.
One of these days, these Yanks are going to run out of patience and nuke your pedophile mo-slime ass to extinction.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at July 02, 2007 11:03 AM (EdIIN)
Prepare to celebrate, for soon the day shall arrive when millions of your Pakistani and Iranian brothers shall find themselves in the loving embrace of Allah. Allah will take you by the hand and lead you into the mansion of Mohammad (the great child rapist prophet, not Mohammad the goat herder) [Pig urine Be Upon Him] who along with his 72 virgin demons in each of the 72 rooms of his mansion shall ram their white hot burning cocks up your virgin assholes for the rest of eternity.
More Imminent Terror Attacks Expected in UK
I've been chatting with Glen Jenvey about the failed London VBIED and the Glasgow attack and he forwards an e-mail from MI5. MI5 has raised the UK's terror alert level to "Critical". According to their website: "This means that an attack is expected imminently and indicates an extremely high level of threat to the UK."
Here is the e-mail from MI5 that was just forwarded to me.
The Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre (JTAC) has raised the UK's threat level from international terrorism from Severe to Critical. This means that the threat of a terrorist attack is considered to be imminent.
This decision has been made by JTAC based on the latest intelligence. JTAC, which operates independently of Ministers, brings together all the security and intelligence agencies in order to produce a joint assessment of the threat from international terrorism.
Britain is in our prayers.
PS--I'm not terribly frightened for our British friends. Is it just me, or does this crew of al Qaeda wannabes seem even more dee-dee-dee than usual?
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At least the Brits are good at keeping a cool head and not allowing something like this to completely throw them off their game. They carry on their lives quite normally - the best "f-you" signal you can give to the terrorists in my opinion. The Spaniards also set the bar high.
Wish I could say the same about us. We sort of lost our heads after 9/11 - which is exactly what Osama I'm sure wanted to happen.
The pathetic failures of these attempts by you mo-slime subhumans together with the devastating floods in southern Pakistan destroying tens of thousands of Mo-slimes shows that God Himself must be a Zionist-crusader! Heh heh heh heh he :->>
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 30, 2007 04:43 PM (EdIIN)
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Hey Bo bin-Khinzir-al-Islami I've lost count of the number of your failed plots by you mother-f**king mo-slimes. But this could also be indication that your more competent planners and terrorists have been killed or captured. Heh heh heh heh heh heh :->>
It's time the west woke up and realized that it needs to start deporting you mo-slime subhumans in the interest of its own preservation.
FUCK ISLAM and MUSLIMS
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 30, 2007 04:48 PM (EdIIN)
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"PS--I'm not terribly frightened for our British friends. Is it just me, or does this crew of al Qaeda wannabes seem even more dee-dee-dee than usual?"
Great minds, and all that: I was thinking the same thing. There is a patina of the pathetically lame covering these rank amateur attempts. I mean, the Jeep-hadis burned themselves half to death without even going the extra mile for their 72 virgins. Why didn't they just stay in the Cherokee and meet Allah in the flames of Hell?
Posted by: Hucbald at June 30, 2007 05:00 PM (erJBg)
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Training has a shelf life. The kind of terrorist taining that used to go on in Afganistan was both comprehensive and intense. I suspect that these most recent terrorists were either untrained of have gone years without training.
This shows the importance of closing training camps and not allowing there to be terror states that provide training.
Some people lament the ability of terrorists to go to ground; they are frustrated by it. While being able to regulate their own loss rate is a tactical advantage, they do grow weaker with time in hiding.
Posted by: Michael Stora, Ph.D. at June 30, 2007 05:04 PM (WcfON)
Larry "CIA Analyst" Johnson, foaming, screeching child-member of the Leftist, Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Nutbag crowd, is on a "winning streak", isn't he?
A month before 9/11, he said Americans were too focused on "terrorism", and that there was basically no threat to the United States from "terrorism"!
Last night, he joined fellow Leftist Nutbag/Lunar Chiroptera colony member, Herr Keith "Isn't it suspicious that when Bush drops in the Polls, these "terrorist attacks" occur?" OBERLOON, to pooh pooh the double failed car-bombing attempt in London yesterday, as the work of amateurs, and not much ado about anything!
HEY LARRY!
You Freaking NUT! You are ZERO for TWO, and about to STRIKE OUT, you freaking Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi MORON!
Posted by: Dale in Atlanta at June 30, 2007 05:33 PM (7Mjr/)
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Bo: The Spanish went butts up to their ancestors. The muslims screwed them for 600 yrs. They just got used to it. Something to do with sheep fat. End of story.
Posted by: Greyrooster at June 30, 2007 07:08 PM (INBbP)
You know, there’s been a car bomb. We all need to be very cowardly and afraid, and surrender all of our unalienable rights to our just and honest leaders…who will single-handedly punish the wicked and protect the good.
That’s because we’re all innocent children, and daddy will take care of us.
Right?!
We’re in a quagmire courtesy of old white chicken hawk simple thinkers who are on the record explaining (in the best backward assed white suppremist hick country f*ck accent) we’ll be out of there in six months, we’ll be greeted as hero’s. Oops plan “Bâ€â€¦. what no plan “Bâ€?
“emboldening the terrorists†has been substantially accomplished through an historically inept war plan courtesy of a bunch of parkinsonian punk asses that aren’t sufficiently equipped to direct old ladies playing shuffleboard. They have wrecked what used to be a great nation.
See if you hate filled pea brains can wrap your heads around what it says. It says what many experts have been saying for the last couple of years. Invading Iraq has not made us safer, it has made the world a more dangerous place. For every innocent victim we kill, we create 3-4 more new terrorists. These are the family of the innocents we kill. They do hate us, that is true. But not because of our so-called “freedomsâ€, but because we are killing their families, people who have nothing to do with terrorism.
I did not intend to blame our military for killing innocents - though I realize now that is how it comes accross.
We are now occupiers. We occupy their land and we are their police force. The hatred this creates is natural and impossible to mitigate. We need to get out now. That's what I meant to say.
Posted by: Bo at June 30, 2007 08:29 PM (euN4c)
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I think Bo has crossed the line. He is an Anti-American troll and now he has gone Rosie on us, blaming the military. He is obviously an ally of our enemies and he should be exposed just the same as any jihadist who comes on here. Please post his IP provider so that we can contact them and shut him down.
Posted by: Conservative Voice at June 30, 2007 10:08 PM (b0FZu)
How very unAmerican of you to not be able to handle free speech. Do you sponsor book burnings as well?
Show me your IP address and I'll show you mine :-)
Sincerely,
Bo
Posted by: Bo at June 30, 2007 10:33 PM (euN4c)
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Bo, you can have your free speech but not on someone else's property. If Rusty wants to ban anyone here it is his right as a free person, and doing so does not make him a sensor or unAmerican, regardless of what your Rosie-loving ass says.
Posted by: Conservative Voice at June 30, 2007 10:41 PM (b0FZu)
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And Bo, you'll notice that Greyrooster has seriously toned down the racist anti-black comments since he ran off "fishing" last weekend. Greyrooster nearly got exposed last weekend for exceeding his normal amount of racist stupidity. One of the most respected writers here, Jane, won't even allow comments because of Greyrooster's stupidity. I'd like to see Vinnie and Greyrooster go head to head... Greyrooster would fold faster than your buddy Rosie did. The problem is that people come on here and mistake Greyrooster as a conservative, when he is just an old bitter bigot. Yeah, Greyrooster got the message alright and he squealed and he has been practically shut up compared to before. One of these days he is going to shoot his racist mouth off again, then his trolling at Jawa comments is going to stop...!
Posted by: Conservative Voice at June 30, 2007 10:52 PM (b0FZu)
Posted by: Michael Stora, Ph.D. at July 01, 2007 09:43 AM (CDa3v)
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comment deleted, because a. it sucked, b. it sucked, c. it sucked.
Posted by: Greyrooster at July 01, 2007 10:46 AM (ukOLR)
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Conservative voice: Keep sucking ass. Only way pitiful little faggots like you can make it. What a way of life. Always the little crybaby whinner. Been kicked around a lot huh! Don't like? Try standing up like a man for the first time in your miserable little nerdie life. Fucking coward. You would be the first to grease up and bend over for the muslims. AND LIKE IT. Little Punk.
Posted by: Greyrooster at July 01, 2007 10:50 AM (ukOLR)
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Bo, You dissappoint me....It's clear that over time you can over come this hatred. Over time motives become clear. You begin to learn who has your best interests at heart. It certainly is not al-Qaeda and the terrorists. Just as over time you reveal yourself...
Posted by: Howie at July 01, 2007 11:27 AM (YHZAl)
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Plus you have the cause and effect backwards. They already hated us, 9/11 is proof enough of that. Americans and Brits aren't going to just stand there and be blown up. You blow us up we might respond by say occupying your country. In fact the next time they blow shit up I'm for occupying another country. You don't like being occupied, don't attack America.
Who wants to be next? Step forward now don't be shy.
Posted by: Howie at July 01, 2007 12:04 PM (YHZAl)
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Comment #15. The devil made me do it. Was the truth.
Posted by: Greyrooster at July 01, 2007 01:07 PM (LypZL)
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Comment #13. Your ass you silly little punk. Get that black muslim out of your butt and you may begin to understand how things go. Frigging crybaby cowardly little faggot.
Posted by: Greyrooster at July 01, 2007 01:11 PM (LypZL)
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Howie, What you say is very true. I myself remember as a child being told by our Mo-slime teacher that the Twelvth Shiah Imam will conquer the world with nuclear weapons. And this was when Islamists were on a short leash; this is before the arseholes came to power!
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at July 01, 2007 01:25 PM (EdIIN)
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Conservative voice: Comment 15 was for you. You would have enjoyed it and everyone would have known how wrong you are. Faggot little crybaby black muslim sucking punk.
Posted by: Greyrooster at July 01, 2007 01:45 PM (LypZL)
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I am a long time Jawa fan and I agree with Conservative Voice that Greyrooster hurts the conservative cause among many new visitors to this site. It is unfortunate that he is allowed to write such racist and often threatening statements. I was shocked what he wrote about Jane earlier, then it got deleted. The fact that some of his statements get deleted and others do not cannot help but tell some liberal visitors that the site owners, and conservatives, condone some of what he writes... yet you can google Jawa and find a string of hateful bile directed against African-Americans that still exists on the Jawa website. What a shame, especially when we have soldiers of all flavors risking their lives during a WAR right now. I think the site would be better without Greyrooster and I vote to let him get PWNED.
-- Jawa Fan
Posted by: Jawa Fan at July 01, 2007 02:08 PM (yaG5Y)
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wow what a coincidence -- I've been posting here for about two years, and while I have seen people complain about greyroosters posts I've never seen two people call for him to be banned in the same day. sock puppetry?
Posted by: davec at July 01, 2007 03:14 PM (kcDpP)
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i hope britian gets seriously attacked, so many britons hate america and britain is turning into a muslim state. they need to wake the____up. they are so weak in regard to terrorism, im sure we will see more of this. and i hate to say. someday america will have these things going on in their country. everyone enes to be alot tougher against these muslim terrorists murderers. they are just serial killers, or mass murderers motivated my islam, what a horrible religion
Posted by: hank at July 01, 2007 05:20 PM (lziXs)
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wank if i could turn back the clock i would love to buy you a pre paid breakfast at the windows on the world restaurant on 9/11. You might get an idea of what hate really is and how difficult it is to fight terrorism.
The brits did not suurender to the IRA and wil not surrender to muslimes either. The brits are very impressed with their intelligence and resulting arrests in recent terrorism attempts.
So to call the brits weak in regards to terrorism after america got its ass kicked to the tune of 2000+ people is completely beyond me.
These dumb ass efforts by muslims have been a complete joke, i mean even the stupid Irish knew how to make a bomb go off.
brits to not hate americans, they just hate stupid mindless assholes like hank.
Posted by: rob at July 01, 2007 06:10 PM (jjgx5)
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rob: yeah I bet 52 people on the Tube, and Buses on July 7th 2005 were impressed with the intelligence services, and subsequent arrests too right?
Intelligence failures no matter what the body account should be held accountable -- something here and the U.K has in common. No one loses their job or is prosecuted for negligence.
Posted by: davec at July 01, 2007 06:23 PM (kcDpP)
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Hank:
they need to wake the____up.
how retarded do you have to be to think we might be offended by the word 'fuck' , while you rant and incite mass murder of British citizens as a 'wake up call'
Do us all a favor: never post again.
Posted by: davec at July 01, 2007 06:26 PM (kcDpP)
The Islamists, seeing that British support for the war on terra is starting to slip quite drastically, decide that a few bombs might bring everyone back into line......after all, they love what has happened since 9/11...they would like to keep Osama's recruitment lines filled....
Don't give them the reaction they seek. Give them the opposite. Let them continue to stew in their hate...turn around and walk away....Don't play by their rules....let's play by ours instead.....
Posted by: Bo at July 01, 2007 07:47 PM (euN4c)
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dave i agree, i was just trying to point out to wank the difference between 52 and 2000+ and also the recent arrests in the UK of not only terrorists but also several other muslime scum. Hardly what i would call being weak on terrorism.
Posted by: rob at July 01, 2007 08:02 PM (jjgx5)
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Bo:
Yeah, they're dying to keep fighting us in Afghanistan and Iraq, that's exactly what they want /sarc
More like they think weak willed Liberals will pull out of the Wars, and hand them a victory so they can continue building Islamic states like roach motels.
Posted by: davec at July 01, 2007 08:02 PM (kcDpP)
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Jawa fan: Fuck you. Jane ran her mouth at me first. Also, nothing I said wasn't the truth. That's the problem with sissy assed punks like you. Don't know what you are talking about. You and the other sissy Conservative voice wacking each other off. HOW ABOUT THIS PUSSY. SHOW ME WHERE I'VE EVER SAID ANYTHING THAT WAS INCORRECT. Now get back to adoring Al Sharpton. Asshole.
Posted by: Greyrooster at July 01, 2007 08:16 PM (7hGJW)
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Jawa fan: And if you can't get back to your bathhouse. I hate mommy calling little cowards. Piss on you. Not my fault to married a black.
Posted by: Greyrooster at July 01, 2007 08:18 PM (7hGJW)
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You guys are jumping on Hank to hard. A few small mistakes doesn't make him a bad guy. He's on our team. Merely needs a little guidance. If you run him off how can we educate him? HANK. You're alright with me. We differ in that I don't believe most English hate us. Perhaps you are referring to the foreigners who are not true English. Yes they hate us. Jealous little bastards.
Posted by: Greyrooster at July 01, 2007 08:46 PM (7hGJW)
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Greyrooster for president. I've been on this blog over a year. I have never seen an incident where Greyrooster has attacked anyone first. He loves to attack back. Is that bad? I agree with him. Those without balls wouldn't appreciate him. I vote to ban those without the courage to prove him wrong. Ban those who would ban. They are the ones who wouldn't fight for this nation.
Posted by: Greyrooster at July 01, 2007 08:54 PM (7hGJW)
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Love to act like the cowards. Only I will post my name.
Posted by: Greyrooster at July 01, 2007 08:55 PM (7hGJW)
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jumping on wank too hard ? wishing people get seriously attacked a small mistake? Needs a little guidance? you want him on your side, then your side is just as desperate like the muslimes.
Posted by: rob at July 01, 2007 10:28 PM (jjgx5)
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Desparate no. Seeking info? Rob: I have a feeling that Hank isn't an American. If you can't see that. Hmmmmm.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 02, 2007 10:51 PM (oyCMS)
Sandcrawler PSA: Can We Panic Yet?Are you in the UK? Have you seen any of these men?
Lamine Adam, 26, his brother Ibrahim, 20 and Cerie Bullivant, 24
If so report them immediately to the British Counter Terrorism Hotline at 0800 789 321.
These are three of the seven terrorist suspects who are fugitives in Britain after walking away from so called control orders. If anyone has images of the other four suspects, please email them to us and we'll post them here.
These missing men are being hidden and sheltered by someone. I seriously doubt they are attempting to leave Britain. They pose a serious threat to people and property.
I cannot stress enough the importance of recapturing these men. Today's attempted car bombing in London underlines how critical this issue has become. British laws designed to protect people from over-zealous prosecution by the state are putting people's lives in danger.
The seventh of the seventeen terror suspects under control orders escaped monitoring on the 22nd of June.
Via The Telegraph: The Government's system of control orders for monitoring terror suspects was further undermined today after it emerged that yet another has disappeared.
In a statement to Parliament, the police minister, Tony McNulty, said the unidentified man, understood to be an Iraqi, had not been seen since Monday night.
He had been on the control order since November 2005. He is the seventh of 17 men supposedly being monitored under the controversial system to go on the run....
....The Home Office, which imposes control orders on the advice of the security service, refused to say whether he was one of six Iraqis arrested in 2005 in what was believed to be the final stages of a plot to explode car bombs in the UK.
The Home Secretary was forced by the courts to water down the conditions of their orders, which came close to house arrest.
The statement by British authorities that there is no intelligence about an imminent attack is obviously false. This story is one of several bits of info I have, some we cannot share at this time, that this is not the case.
I don't think these men are headed to Iraq, as some have speculated. I feel today's attempted car bombing confirms my suspicion that they now intend to execute their Jihad in the UK itself.
British police have a "crystal clear" picture of the man who drove the bomb-rigged silver Mercedes outside a London nightclub, and officials tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com he bears "a close resemblance" to a man arrested by police in connection with another bomb plot but released for lack of evidence.
Look at the guy on the right - I've had shits that were prettier than him.
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at June 29, 2007 02:41 PM (VvcOL)
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We've all gone to far in protecting freedoms and rights of those who would take our freedoms and rights. Time to get down with these muslims dogs. Not right to leave our children and grandchildren this legacy. Time for the average Joe to take to the streets and spread some fear among the muslim trash.
Posted by: Greyrooster at June 29, 2007 02:57 PM (BT9oD)
I guess this is why they commonly call you guys "ditto-heads." You like to rehash Limbaugh talking points without any dissenting views.
Why are you so afraid of alternate points of view? Conservatism was never this close minded before the arrival of the neocons (ie: the former Marxists).
Posted by: Bo at June 29, 2007 03:44 PM (rMxJF)
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I have tolerated dozens if not hundreds of your alternate views. Your suggestion that we bow to the terrorists demands is duly noted. I'm just not in the mood for it today and if you don't like it then GFYS
Posted by: Howie at June 29, 2007 03:53 PM (YHZAl)
I advocate NOT acting the way terrorists want us to act. I advocate NOT playing by their rules and acting in the ways they expect us to act. Most of all I advocate not giving them the satisfaction of morally and fiscally bankrupting our nation.
I believe right now they would like nothing more than for us to continue to occupy Iraq. They know that eventually they can bleed us dry...weaken us, demoralize us, turn us against one another....
Posted by: Bo at June 29, 2007 04:02 PM (rMxJF)
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Only if you allow them to. Take your own advice and stand firm. It is not that I don't understand the moral stand of taking a punch or two. But affter a while you begin to look stupid rather than tough or brave. At some point you have to extract a cost from your opponent. We already stood and took enough. It's time to change the equation of terror to make the costs of using it unacceptable.
I can see that Bo has no faith in what this country can do. He thinks we're broken and on our last leg. We have not even tried that hard. We have rationed a singe item, we have not yet drafted a singele man, commandeered a single factrory. We have not even come close to spending what we are capable of in treasure or effort.
Posted by: Howie at June 29, 2007 04:27 PM (YHZAl)
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The irony that Bo's talking points are exactly how the terrorists expect and want his ilk to feel:
'run away - redeploy to okinawa'
while telling us not to act like the terrorists want us to is totally lost on him.
Posted by: davec at June 29, 2007 05:55 PM (kcDpP)
Reasoning is obviously not one of your strong suits.
There are limits to American influence and power. As soon as you accept this FACT then perhaps we can move on to discuss how the enemy understands this very well and is exploiting it magnificently. People like yourself who blindly support the war make it easy for them to do so. They are counting on you to behave exactly like you are (too arrogant to admit defeat and do the smart thing - pull back and regroup).
What exactly is your strategy for winning by the way? I'd like to hear it.
We have spent close to a trillion dollars on this war so far, killed how many innocent Iraquies, isolated ourselves internationally, and what exactly do we have to show for it? Are we close to victory (if you can even define such a thing)?
Truth be told, if this really was as serious a threat to our national security as the peddlers of fear are saying, then how exactly are we supposed to accept that it can be won on an over-stretched and tired volunteer army? Thus I have to conclude that this is just pure bullshit. WE ARE FIGHTING A LOSING BATTLE SIMPLY TO PROTECT GEORGE BUSH'S DELICATE EGO and pass this mess on to the next president.
Posted by: Bo at June 29, 2007 07:22 PM (euN4c)
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Bo,
Like I'd waste time answering you, you wouldn't even understand it anyway. keep up with the talking points.
Posted by: davec at June 29, 2007 07:46 PM (kcDpP)
Today's hysteria about the car bombs in London is a fantastic example of the infinitely malleable and demogogic "Al Qaeda" designation. I'll put it in simple, pseudo-syllogistic terms.
Cue visceral craving for strongman leader to calm our trembling fear of our own coddled imaginations.
Posted by: Bo at June 29, 2007 08:42 PM (euN4c)
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No Bo the point is, most likely we had these peple in custoday and the failure to recognize al-Qaeda, no matter how stupid their dupes, is an insurgent organization with the goal of becoming a state.
This organization with ambitions of statehood has declared war on the US and Britain. They are POW's pure and simple. Thay can and should be, under international law, held until hostilties cease or a prisoner trade is negotiated with the opposing partys.
#1 We had them and allowed them to escape and try to kill people.
#2 Where is the screaming over the prisoners Hamas and Hezbollah are holding?
#3 We never were invincible. Not in WWI not in WWII, never never never. We won because we were too damn stubborn or stupid to quit. Damn good thing we didn't!
#4 We were damn lucky these guys failed. Allah wasn't willing today.....
Posted by: Howie at June 29, 2007 08:53 PM (YHZAl)
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Will someone please post Bo's email or IP information so that we can shut this troll down?
Posted by: Conservative Voice at June 29, 2007 09:16 PM (b0FZu)
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No. We will post his IP or email. He can if he wants to.
Posted by: Howie at June 29, 2007 09:36 PM (YHZAl)
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I don't disagree with Bo, that our economic war strategy is out too lunch. On the one had al-Qaeda wants to bankrupt us, but we're growing our economy and doing firly well at the moment. They are failing. But the world economy is also growing and the ME economy is growing and that helps finance people who yuo know, want to kill us. Might have to get over our greed for 5 minutes to win. Wouldn't take long to starve em to the point where they are more worried about whats's for dinner than Death to America. If you really intend to fight war on all fronts, diplomatic, military and economic. To win ya gotta go around fucking shit up. It's just the way things are.
Posted by: Howie at June 29, 2007 09:38 PM (YHZAl)
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Get off the "panic", "fear", or whatever scared term I hear lots of commentators using.
"British laws designed to protect people from over-zealous prosecution by the state are putting people's lives in danger."
I disagree. Governments only seem able to do one thing, fuck up. Some bureaucrat is the most likely breakdown, regardless of what the laws are. Vigilance is a stronger tool.
Govt's can't get it right on defense EVERY SINGLE TIME- that is why we must stay on offense. This also allows us to keep our civil liberties.
Look at the threats. The terrorists can't destroy us (they can bloody our noses from time to time, but that is made harder by our kick-ass offense). Only us can destroy us. Us is the nations of freemen living under self-governing rule of law... we must not secure ourselves to death.
Look at the souther border, wide open for years... Our offense is working.
Posted by: QC at June 29, 2007 09:39 PM (oMkSt)
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Howie,
What do you mean by "economic war strategy"?
"When you ride alone you ride with Bin Laden"... Bill Maher? That stuff? You wanna cuddle up with Ragnar in his hybrid?
Only about 11-12% of our oil comes from the Middle East. Even if we stopped buying from them, it would not hurt them. They would have plenty of customers, including one big yellow one.
Even more important than not buying oil... stop sending foreign aid to these third world rat-holes (Egypt, Pakistan, etc) and subsiding their defense (Turkey). Attack any countries that fuck with us.
I agree with QC that the best defense is an aggressive offense.
Posted by: Conservative Voice at June 29, 2007 09:48 PM (b0FZu)
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Err, I think the bureaucrat was a judge in this case....
"Governments only seem able to do one thing, fuck up"
well said.
I dont' want to secure ourselved to death. But letting these schmucks go, that's the fuck up here! And a few other things I can think of.
Posted by: Howie at June 29, 2007 09:51 PM (YHZAl)
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If a guy comes up and bloodies my nose once. Ok, twice Ok but this is getting old, when he starts doing it every saturday night, it's time to break his jaw for him.
Posted by: Howie at June 29, 2007 09:52 PM (YHZAl)
22Here is a speech by a moron who says that "65% of our oil is imported from the Middle East".
This fool from Illinois and the liar Gore proove that Democrats cannot be trusted.
Posted by: Conservative Voice at June 29, 2007 10:10 PM (b0FZu)
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QC: I agree only we can destroy us. That is why it is important to stay true to our core principles: freedom and maximum liberty. But most of all we must maitain our moral superiortity. That is why it is important that we restore habeus corpus and respect the Geneva Conventions. If we stray from that we become more like them (more like the USSR).
Howie: I also agree that we need to pursue these people to the end of the earth. HOWEVER, I also firmly believe that the only thing that the Iraq occupation is doing is generating more terrorists. No chance of democracy working here for quite some time (fundamentally against the religious dogma of their society - for now). This is why I am for strategic redeployment. I am 100% in agreement with Murtha on this one. We cannot sustain this occupation indefinately. Doing so only creates a dependency on us to police this mess - they become a military welfare state - it will never end. This means announcing a timetable for withdrawl, no matter how uncomfortable it feels.
The oil dependency on the Middle East is something that keeps us from making proper choices with respect to foreign policy. It also means that American dollars will continue to prop up these corrupt arab regimes. Time to perhaps ramp up the pressure on Detroit to seriously take us off the combustion engine. Won't be easy, but I see no other way.
Posted by: Bo at June 29, 2007 10:32 PM (euN4c)
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"The oil dependency on the Middle East" is over-rated. Bo recycles talking points from the Huff Post...
Posted by: Conservative Voice at June 29, 2007 10:44 PM (b0FZu)
I think it is the obligation of the executive branch to push the boundaries of legality in doing what it considers effective in defending our freedoms.
If Dubya breaks the law by sniffing every phone call between the US and Pakistan, too fuckin bad. It should sure as hell be against the law, but he should do it the fuck anyway. If he doesn't it creates a power vacuum. The phone companies have the capability to record/digitally monitor every call, but we play pretend that they never would do that. It can be done, it seems like a damn good way to catch terrorists, lets do it.
It should not be under a legal structure, because that would only lead to the growth of more government. TONS more government, it would grow to be used on deadbeat dads, "for the children". It needs to be fuckin black ops and grey legality because it needs to be fuckin black ops and grey legality.
Posted by: QC at June 29, 2007 10:59 PM (oMkSt)
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Who do you think works at the local Pakistan teleco? They sure as hell can hook computers up and sniff things.
Posted by: QC at June 29, 2007 11:01 PM (oMkSt)
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The messy days are coming folks. It is only a matter of time before some fuckwad muslim decides to park a car full of explosive material next to a mall, or some other crowded place. The question you need to ask yourself is... When that time comes, what am I going to do? Will you put on a ratty old pair of shoes and go get dirty, or will you stay inside and complain because things aren't the way you'd wished they'd be?
You know something. Fuck it, call me a racist, I don't care. I am sick and tired of muslims. I'm sick of their religion. I'm sick of the way they want to treat women. I'm sick of seeing each one of these assholes in their dirty fucking robes. I'm sick of their pussy little girl way of fighting. I tired of all their fucking YELLING. I'm fed up with the allluoh akbar bullshit, or what ever the fuck they say. I'm sick of these fucking people adding nothing to society. I'm pissed that they feel that their fucking religion is above the law of the country that has taken them in. I'm tired of these fuckers expecting, FUCKING EXPECTING, us to change our way of life to accomodate them. Fuck them, our country, our laws. You want a drivers license, take off the bee keeper suit. I'm sick of the muslim fucks in this country being a muslim first and an American somewhere from 2nd on down. In the best of times and the worst of times I'm an American first. I'm not a catholic first, I'm not a mormon first, I'm not a muslim first, I'm not an atheist first, I'm an American first.
I have a feeling that a day in the future will put the American people at a very important crossroads. You'd think 9/11 would have been that day, but I guess it'll have to be something worse than that, and that is a God damn shame. God forbid that day ever happens, but if it does, those of us that want to fight this battle the way it needs to be fought should be allowed to. The others that want to sit back and complain just need to keep their feelings to themselves.
Posted by: Rome at June 30, 2007 12:13 AM (/GrlO)
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Souldnt their faces appear on a poster reading WANTED EAD OR ALIVE 250:000 PESAQUAS REWARD
Posted by: sandpiper at June 30, 2007 10:33 AM (4yJRe)
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Heh, I was just reading that Scotsman article on the hunt for the suspects. It says the other four missing assholes can't be identified to the public for, "legal reasons". You have got to be fucking kidding me. What legal reason, to hamstring the public. To cover up the utter failure of the of government.
Bo please tell me how my policy proposal regarding these men as POWs in any way violates the Geneva conventions? Think it fits right in there.
I'm not sure we need black ops and grey legality. I think a lot fo the anxiety over the financial and communication monitoring comes from a lack of understanding about how these programs worked before and after the patriot act. I have some knowlege of how they work and I can tell you the patriot act is rather spurious and unnecessary. Needs a sundown date too. Not that I'm worried at all about it's use against terrorists, its what comes later....when we turn it on oursleves.
Posted by: Howie at June 30, 2007 12:22 PM (YHZAl)
Posted by: Greyrooster at June 30, 2007 03:32 PM (J67jn)
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Rome: Right on. Why should we put up with this crap from muslims? Take care of those weeds before they take over the garden.
Posted by: Greyrooster at June 30, 2007 03:37 PM (J67jn)
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Howie: Right on. Conservative Voice wishes to call mommy because he/she/it is a coward.
Conservative voice: Dickhead. This is the Jawa Report not the Peoples Republic of North Korea. Banning others opinions is what they do. Socialist prick. I'd take Bo over your cowardly little ass anyday. Never heard him cry mommy ask request someone to be banned. How about publishing your address so I pay you a visit?
Posted by: Greyrooster at June 30, 2007 03:47 PM (J67jn)
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Bo: " You are fighting a losing battle to protect George Bush's ego" Aren't the Democrats in charge of both houses? We must be staying in Iraq to protect Nancy Pelosi's ego.
Posted by: Greyrooster at June 30, 2007 03:49 PM (J67jn)
The Democrats lack any sort of unity. Like herding cats. They have far too many agendas making it impossible for them to agree on anything. That's my impression anyway.
Posted by: Bo at June 30, 2007 08:16 PM (euN4c)
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Goot point. Maybe we sound like dittoheads becuae there is only one correct answer. Unlike where you get praise for the diversity and creativity of 1000 wrong answers.
Posted by: Howie at June 30, 2007 10:28 PM (YHZAl)
AND THAT'S WHY YOU GO REPUBLICAN. At least they are orgainized. Money seems to do that very thing. Democrats don't make decisions . They merely 2nd guess those that do. If you make decisions you will make mistakes. Like Conservative Voice's mommy decided to have a kid. She made a mistake when she went to the ghetto to get knocked up. I mean look at the piece of shit she got.
Posted by: Greyrooster at July 01, 2007 01:37 PM (LypZL)
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hey thats me! im not a terrorist, me and my brother are just students. goes to show how dumb the britons are. we are not even muslim.this isnt even funny
Posted by: lamine at July 02, 2007 06:12 PM (lziXs)
London Terror Threat
An explosive-laden green metallic Mercedes crashed into a garbage dumpster near the Tiger Tiger nightclub about 2AM (London time) and the driver ran from the car. Eyewitnesses alerted police. Police found a "massive" explosive device comprised of two propane tanks and a large number of nails. Explosives experts de-armed the device.
The device was apparently set to detonate in London's theater and nightclub district in the west end of the city. The area is customarily packed with thousands of people throughout most of the day. Nearby is Piccadilly Circus.
A massive manhunt for the driver of the Haymarket vehicle was under way, with police trawling through CCTV footage from last night. Congestion charge cameras situated throughout central London are also capable of tracking where the car came from, and which routes it took.
Terror groups like al-Qaeda are believed to have been planning attacks on nightclubs, which are considered by Islamic fundamentalists to be symbols of Western decadence.
The Mercedes has been impounded and authorities believe it to be a forensics gold mine. London Metro Police have scheduled a press briefing later this morning.
From Metropolitan Police Briefing (0715 EDT):
Peter Clarke, Deputy Assistant Commissioner for Scotland Yard:
1) Incident began with notification from an ambulance crew of a parked car (pic) suspiciously emitting smoke. Ambulance crew had responded to a different emergency.
2) Police investigated and found cans of gasoline, propane gas canisters, and a large number of nuts and bolts. Police called explosives officers.
3) Explosives officers manually disarmed the device. Area cordoned off. Vehicle impounded.
4) Target not known. Peter Clarke stated that they had no counterterrorism intelligence prior to the incident.
5) Metro Police is appealing to the public for information.
Metro Police continue to investigate. Notably, a large quantity of CCTV footage is being reviewed.
In a followup report, a security source said the operating mechanism in the explosive device is similar to IED's found in Iraq.
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They wanted to attack nightclubs because they are a symbol of western decadence? Then why attack at night when they are full of non-symbols namely, actual westerners (and I'm sure some easterners as well). Yeah, right it's just symbolic you know, wouldn't have anything to do with nightclubs having lots of innocent people you can easily murder in cold blood with bombs under the cover of night. If nightclubs are a symbol of decadence what do you call mass murdering car bombers - enlightened? Fuck you terrorists - go get a penis stretcher and grow the fuck up already - the world does not need you, Allah does, so go see him and leave the rest of us alone.
Posted by: tbone at June 29, 2007 11:00 AM (HGqHt)
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Follow up for any Islamic rage boys stopping by: you cannot gain enlightenment by losing your humanity. God does not admit suicides, but he knows someone else you can talk to...
Posted by: tbone at June 29, 2007 11:05 AM (HGqHt)
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I guess this forever debunks the neocon's "puppy dog" theory - that is if we pull out of Iraq they will follow us home.
Looks like they're here.
Posted by: Bo at June 29, 2007 11:36 AM (rMxJF)
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eh, I don't think anyone said that fighting over there will stop all attacks on our own shores. The line of thinking is more along the lines of draw off enough of their support structure that it makes it harder/less frequent over here.
Posted by: Ranba Ral at June 29, 2007 12:01 PM (AXEx1)
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Ladies' night at a West End nightclub, where skimpily dressed girls loaded on booze dance to up-tempo music as a precursor to engaging in casual sexual intercourse. I wonder who could've been behind this attempted mass-murder...
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at June 29, 2007 01:28 PM (VvcOL)
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Bo, when are you going to get all the left's talking points out of your head and admit the reason you hang around here is that you secretly identify more with the right? Step one is admitting you have a problem - we will get you through the rest.
Posted by: tbone at June 29, 2007 03:29 PM (HGqHt)
I try not to compartmentalize things into politically "right" or "left." These lables are often thrown around without any proper rationale. I think what we are all after is the truth - without spin or hidden agendas.
Sadly, right now hate, fear and hidden interests cloud all rational debate on the right. The left has it's share of hysteria, but at least they have American best interests in mind when they talk about foreign policy. All you get on this side of the isle is a knee-jerk goon-like response to what is essentially a problem of containing or defusing Islamic fundamentalism. In a saner world, people who advocate dropping bombs to solve Middle East problems would have been laughed at - here they are applauded and cheered.
Posted by: Bo at June 29, 2007 03:54 PM (rMxJF)
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So Bo, you want to hug our problems away? In the natural world (the one we live in) when an organism is attacked, it adapts to the threat or it dies. The most effective adaptations are offensive. Sure we have lots of offensive weapons but only one is feared more than any other. That one happens to be the most visible also and please realize, we tried your way, look what it got us (and them) - how many Iraqi's died from all our economic offensives - why weren't the code pink a$$hats hanging out with Chavez then? Economics is boring and difficult to understand but everyone's got an opinion on big booms (how many blockbusters last year featured economics? There's your truth).
Posted by: tbone at June 29, 2007 04:10 PM (HGqHt)
The "attack" on the organism (the US) and the reaction - the invasion of a country that had nothing to do with the attack - is precisely the reason we have a giant mess right now.
Posted by: Bo at June 29, 2007 04:29 PM (rMxJF)
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Yes, Bo just like September 11th was a response to the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan -- oh wait a minute.
Posted by: davec at June 29, 2007 05:28 PM (kcDpP)
What is the point of making such a stupid statement?
The reasons behind 9/11 are many, but I think Pat Buchanan said it best when he simply said "they are here because we are there." And Buchanan ain't no Liberal.
Posted by: Bo at June 29, 2007 08:24 PM (euN4c)
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really? so where is Thailand's presence in the Middle East? How about India? Philippines? Morocco? Sudan? Somalia? Algeria? Ethiopia? Indonesia? What are their transgressions Bo? after all each one of these countries have had more terrorist attacks than the United States.
must . Ignore . elephant. in . the .room.
Posted by: davec at June 29, 2007 09:44 PM (kcDpP)
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The common factors in all these countries is poverty - extreme poverty. I've been to the Philippines and seen it for myself. Catholisims is very strong there, but not in Mindenao where the muslims have a majority.
Just like communism, Islamic fundamentalism finds fertile soil wherever there is extreme poverty and desperation (no hope of a better life). We do not have the power to change all this (eradicate poverty around the world) so the only choice is to continue to do as we have done since WWII - be a model republic, export our culture of freedom and liberty through indirect channels. It used to be referred to as American soft power. It was hugely effective during the Cold War - it can be equally effective against Isamic fundamentalism.
If you think about it: they have labled us "the Great Satan" - and our actions with respect to invading and occupying Iraq feed this propaganda.
Posted by: Bo at June 29, 2007 10:42 PM (euN4c)
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Bo:
Keep cracking out the old disproven talking points: Please point me to suicide bombings and murders done by Tibetan monks who are both poor and had their land occupied by China.
Yawn.
Posted by: davec at June 29, 2007 10:46 PM (kcDpP)
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Don't be silly. The actions of Tibetan monks are guided by a religion of absolute peace. There is no violent strain there.
And there used to be such a thing as a moderate muslim. Quite a few less of them types these days (thank Bush for that).
Muslims To Queen, "Go To Hell"Via The Daily Mail, which makes sense, its seems every day there are Muslims burning stuff and spitting in the face of the natins that host them. If I were queen, I think I'd reopen the Tower of London to new guests.
Muslims burned the flag of St George and called for the Queen to 'Go to Hell' in a furious rally held in London over Salman Rushdie's knighthood.
Angry Muslim extremists rallying at Regents Park Mosque said that anger over the award could match the fierce reaction to publication of cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad in Denmark in 2006.
Organisers of a protest outside the mosque claimed several hundred demonstrators were denouncing the decision to reward Rushdie, whose novel "The Satanic Verses" led to a death threat from Iran in 1989.
"This knighthood is just another example of Tony Blair and his government's attempts to secularize Muslims and reward apostates,"
Are we sure this isn't what they are so upset about?
It looks like Sir Rushdie is getting the last laugh. Now that I think about it, I'm a bit outraged myself! It just ain't fair is it?
Queen Elizabeth II is a lot tougher than people realize. In her teens she and her family refused to submit to Hitler, and now that she is Queen, she most certainly won't submit a bunch of knuckle-dragging Mo-slime sub-monkeys.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 23, 2007 04:40 PM (EdIIN)
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Once again the comments on the article tell us so much about the Dhimmi Brits who are outraged they would offend the wonderful goat fuckers of Islam.
Posted by: Randman at June 23, 2007 04:41 PM (Sal3J)
6she most certainly won't submit a bunch of knuckle-dragging Mo-slime sub-monkeys.
Yeah...but have you been following how Dhimmified ole Charles has become the last few years?
Posted by: Randman at June 23, 2007 04:42 PM (Sal3J)
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I agree the queen is a nice lady, telling her to go to hell is rude and she won't back down...She needs to take a few tricks her ancestors used and put this shit to an end. Give them a garbage scow and if they don't like it there'
s the whole wide world right out there bub, now sail or be shot.
Posted by: Darth Odie at June 23, 2007 05:35 PM (YHZAl)
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The only people that "apostate" is a relevant term to is Muslims. Why should the rest of us give a fuck what that word means to them...? Just because they brand Rushdie as an "apostate" doesn't mean the rest of us should give a shit - the Queen included. He's just an author in my book.
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at June 23, 2007 06:08 PM (ou0cx)
Four years ago I said on this blog that the only solution to the muslim problem in the UK is mass deportations. Looks more and more like I am correct. OUTLAW ISLAM in the WEST. NOW.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 23, 2007 06:23 PM (1p01H)
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Can't Rushdie afford a plastic surgeon for his ole lady? Cheapo.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 23, 2007 06:25 PM (1p01H)
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Holy bandwidth, Batman. When I clicked on your secondary link that comment section had all these weird links and stuff at the bottom that some bot probably put there.
Posted by: Rep J at June 24, 2007 12:20 AM (PzQS1)
Posted by: sandpiper at June 24, 2007 10:31 AM (h6CK1)
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"MUSLIM EXTERMIST" is a tautology. Islam itself is an incorrigibly brutish, violent and extremist cult.
Even, they themselves will tell you this. The Shiite will say that Islam spread by the sword of Ali (Mo's son-in-law) and the wealth of Khadijah (a wife of Mo's). And the Sunni will say that Islam spread by "Irhab wal-Irab" which literally means terror and bloodshed.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 24, 2007 10:56 AM (EdIIN)
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I thought islam was spread by having sex without a condom. With a goat.
Posted by: SeeMonk at June 24, 2007 11:23 AM (yKwZ2)
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SeeMonk, You're actually not too far off the mark: There are three instruments that Islam uses to subjugate people: First deceit, Second violence, third rodent-like high birth rate achieved by using women as incubation machines who exist for the sole purpose of breeding Jihadi's.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 24, 2007 03:41 PM (EdIIN)
'Radical Muslim' on His Way to the Middle East
Sure, we believe you when you say you're joining, "a group of relief workers in the Middle East." Is that what they're calling suicide bombers these days?
And if you don't remember who "Radical Muslim" is, he's the Salafi piece of garbage who decided to copy my own tongue-in-cheek "fatwa worthy" blogroll, but, needless to say, his "fatwa worthy" blogroll wasn't, you know, ironic humor.
Big Dick says, "Hope your bomb vest goes off early, ya worthless little f***." Ameen to that Dick.....ameen to that
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As long as he is the only death we have to deal with from his actions, I'd say it would be pretty sweet. I suspect if he manages anything video worthy, he'll take some innocent person with him, so I just hope he gets malaria or something and dies on the toilet. Won't need to see that video, but I'd put it up for the Islamists to click on if they fall for it. OF TOPIC but does anyone know where the money trail leads on this ... http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3296170&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312 Some guy ... middle name "Amir" is charged with raping and murdering a white girl at campus, and the campus is accused of a coverup, shredding documents and stuff. Someone died, so I don't want to make light, but I may be reading more into it then there is. "Amir" is from Southfield, if that means anything?
Ahhh anyway,
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at June 20, 2007 06:45 PM (2OHpj)
4"co-ordinated by a good friend of mine who works with the UN"
So now we know what they will be doing with the children before they use them as "human sheilds"
Posted by: Mrs Abe Froman at June 20, 2007 07:10 PM (lB1bz)
Don't Panic! Four Terror Suspects Escape Probation; one a Zarqawi associate
British authorities have released the names of four terror suspects who have "escaped" the British equvalent of something like probation. Iraqi born Bestun Salim, Algerian born Lamine Adam, Ibrahim Adam, and a British convert to Islam Cerie Bullivant were named yesterday as individuals wanted by authorities for violating their "Home Office control orders"---which are orders to check in daily with a monitoring service and to not leave the country, kind of like probation.
You read it right.....probation. But, don't worry, the four are not thought to be an immediate danger because they were plotting to kill American and Britons abroad. So not-an-immediate-danger are the four that authorities in the U.K. have put out the equivalent of an APB and have released photos and updates on possible appearance changes by the escaped terror suspects.
Don't. Panic.
Oh, and one of the not-really-immediately dangerous escapees is a known associate of former al Qaeda in Iraq leader---and current holder of the Guiness Book of World Record's most infidel beheadings in a single year--Abu Musab al Zarqawi.
Lamine Adam, Cerie Bullivant and Ibrahim Adam were subjected to Britain's controversial "control orders" but it has been announced that all three have now escaped. Brothers Lamine Adam (26) and Ibrahim Adam (20) are related to one recently convicted terrorist. Cerie Bullivant (24) is an associate of the two brothers.
A control order is something like double secret probation, I'm guessing.
Lamine Adam was mentioned in the Operation Crevice trial, which concluded on April 30. Five people, members of the Al Muhajiroun group, were given life sentences on this date for plotting to blow up planes, trains, pubs, nightclubs and a shopping mall in Kent. The convicted men had been arrested in March 2004 after 600 kilograms of explosive fertilizer, ammonium phosphate, was deposited at a storage depot in Hanwell, west London.
You'll recall that al Muhajiroun was headed by long time foe of The Jawa Report, Omar Bakri Mohammed.
One of those sentenced to life imprisonment on April 30 was 24-year old Anthony Garcia (born Rahman Adam) who is a brother to two of the fugitive suspects.
At Garcia's trial, testimony was heard that his older brother, Lamine, was also involved in the bomb plot. Lamine was never prosecuted for his involvement, but instead was given probation for trying to join al Qaeda linked forces abroad and has now escaped.
Don't. Panic.
While the Crevice group was making its plans, Lamine Adam had been working as a train driver for the London Underground.
Terror suspect....working as subway driver....with links to al Mujahiroun....and al Mujahiroun members were behind the 7/7 London transit bombings....
Don't panic, he was banned by his "control order" (probation) from driving the Tube (subway) withouth written permission from the government.
Don't. Panic.
They may already have left the country.
Or, they may not. A source has told me, off the record, that the public should be on the look out for the three and that at least one of the men has not left the country. The three are known associates of the followers of Omar Bakri Mohammed. Wherever Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah (formerly al Mujahroun, al Ghurabaa, etc.) members congregate, you may find the three.
My source also indicates that the three may pose, contrary to the mixed messages being sent by the Labour government, an immediate danger to the public. I stress the word immediate. The Home Secretary has warned the public not to approach them, but to contact the authorities immediately.
Algerian-born Lamine and Ibrahim Adam should have reported to a "monitoring company" (not the police) on Monday evening, but did not appear. Cerie Bullivant failed to appear before police on Tuesday. He has since cut his hair short.
Here is a pic of Cerie Bullivant, taken from a CCTV camera, with his hair cut short.
Iraqi Bestun Salim, an associate of terror chief Abu Mousab al-Zarqawi who was killed by US troops last year, went missing from Manchester last August.
Salim had breached his control order seven times before going missing and is now believed to be abroad.
An associate of Abu Musab al Zarqawi was on *&^%#$ probation!!!
John Reid said the following about the missing men:
They are dangerous. We can take nothing for granted, even though the security services assessment is they do not pose a direct threat to the public in the UK. I've never hidden from the house there are limitations in the legislative framework in which we operate. I have consistently made clear control orders are not the best option. They are not in my view even the second best system for tackling terrorist suspects.
This is the direct result of the implementation of the European Human Rights Act
Basically, unable to deport these monsters, because they might face torture in their own countries, we tried to imprison them, but were stopped by because imprisonment would infringe their human rights.
John Reid has now said that our government may seek to opt out of the Human Rights Act as a way to get this back under control.
Why the HELL do we ever listen to liberals, who seem bent on protecting the freedoms of psychopath at the expense of the general population.
Everywhere I look, western democracies are shutting down freedom of speech and the possibility of our governments taking action to protect us from those who seethe with desire to destroy us.
Here in England, our police are arresting 4 year olds for throwing cake at a bus - while four dangerous men with strong ties to known terrorist organisations are able to just catch a plane and leave.
Welcome to the liberal utopia.
Posted by: Chris Allen at May 26, 2007 11:22 AM (mGSdZ)
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The way I understand it is that the Home Office wants to look at article 5 of the European Commission on Human Rights in new light; the light of the threat we face today, and maybe try to reinterpret it, or just ignore it. And I couldn't agree more. Once you start using seditious language and condone killing innocent civilians, then your right to liberty becomes null and void. Or at least, it becomes infinitely less important than our right to life.
Luckily, the people in the know suspect that these people have gone to one of the two theaters where our soldiers are, in whom I have the ultimate respect and faith, and so, I'd certianly prefer them to be there than walking the streets here in the UK with the police being able to do nothing more than keep a loose eye on them.
Dr. Reid is stepping down soon too. I just hope that his successor is able to continue down the same avenue. It's about time they got tough on this issue.
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at May 26, 2007 01:36 PM (ucbQf)
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Sooms to me that if Britain is fighting and they were going to fight against britain they could be held as pow until such time as hostilities cease. It is war. A lot of idiots try to think it's not and that's the problem.
Posted by: Darth Odie at May 26, 2007 02:09 PM (YHZAl)
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Chris Allen: Let them leave. Just make damn sure they don't come back.
Posted by: Greyrooster at May 26, 2007 09:39 PM (C0kWU)
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Of course another solution is to deport all muslims and OUTLAW ISLAM in England.
Posted by: Greyrooster at May 26, 2007 09:40 PM (C0kWU)
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I hope all the jawas really understand how lucky they are to have a constitution which is based in genuine understanding that law itself needs to be trans-generational - in other words that you have a constitution rooted in genuine principals, and not just the latest "progressive" fad ideology.
The European constitution is going to be brought in by the back door - it will be written into the next Treaty and no-one in Europe will get a vote on whether they actually want it. Our politicians seem to take the view that such decisions are too important for us mere plebs to have a voice.
Can I come and live in your country?
Posted by: Chris Allen at May 27, 2007 09:19 AM (mGSdZ)
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Britain's "controversial" control orders? Probation is
controversial? How dare they attempt to keep tabs on those who
break laws!
Posted by: Oyster at May 28, 2007 01:14 PM (p8u67)
Jamaican Muslim Deported from Britain
How does a kid named Trevor from Jamaica become a man named Abdullah who encourages the murder of Americans, Christians, Hindus, and Jews? He embraces Islam, that's how. Sheikh Abdullah al-Faisal just completed his sentence and will now be deported to his native Jamaica. Let's hope the Rastas come out of their ganja induced lethargy long enough to to welcome Abdullah home in the same way their 'brothers' from Ethiopia welcomed the Islamists in Somalia. I seem to recall that at the core of Rasta theology was the notion that they were the real Jews. So, we'll just see how they take to a man who called for the death to Jews..........
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Black muslims. Bigger danger to America that the brown kind. I no, I no. I'm a bigot. Recent poll of Black muslims in America reveal that over 10% agree with Al Queda. Shhhhh! Lets keep it a secret and attack the KKK.
Posted by: Greyrooster at May 25, 2007 09:33 PM (OGUal)
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What will the Jamacans do? Give him a joint and what be that cool rag on your haed man?
Posted by: Greyrooster at May 26, 2007 09:12 AM (OGUal)
Proof That England Oppresses Muslims
It has to be true, they like, printed flyers and stuff, and are gonna like, protest, and march, and hold signs and things so that they can prove how oppressed they are, becuz, hey, in their own country, they'd like, be flying kites and eating sweets if it weren't for their Imperial British Overlords, who, like don't really Overlord them, but, becauze they moved to Britain, now they like, have British overlords. English ones, too.
Proof under the fold, thanks to Jen Glenvey.
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The irony is almost palpable. Oh, and look - on their darling little poster they've got a photo of those mixed-up miscreants with signs urging Muslims to 'behead those that insult Islam'.
If they're actually going to protest outside number 10 - which regrettably is their right as...British citizens - I hope somebody at least has the wherewithall to check them for explosives.
Heh, 'British oppression' - now that's funny.
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at May 13, 2007 02:21 AM (mTdGQ)
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The tard on the left sporting a wraparound beard with matching pink sling was found to have indecent material on his computer. Our uninvited bastard police force put a slug in this model citizen's arm preventing him from jacking off to kiddie-fiddling pics. Now that's oppression.
Posted by: westerninfidel at May 13, 2007 02:33 AM (0awl+)
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On the website this is what they list as oppression:-
MAN MADE LAW
POLICE RAIDS
ARRESTS
PRISONER ABUSE
IRAQ
AFGHANISTAN
ANTI-ISLAM
MUSLIM WOMAN
INSULTING PROPHET (saw)
These people should be forcibly deported somewhere, anywhere else, even if they are British.
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Is it just me, or is the "i" in British a picture of Lindy England? That model British soldier? oh wait, she's American. So no concers about turthfulness when trying to incite a reaction.
Besides, it must be part of their meta-narative truth.
Posted by: Todler at May 13, 2007 09:54 AM (wxO4R)
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MAN MADE LAW! Well as a atheist all I see in the world are
MAN MADE LAWs. It is sad to see how retarded islam really is.
Posted by: Legrand at May 13, 2007 10:21 AM (/etUv)
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Enabled at every turn by their Leftwing handlers to stoke their hatred of the West. It's what they have in common.
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It seems to me these 'oppressed Muslims' should not only RISE, they should also get on a bus, travel to the airport, get on planes and travel to some country where they will be less oppressed. Perhaps their countries of origin?
Oh, wait... that's right... all of those Muslim nations have much less liberty than the UK provides to these ingrates. So maybe they should just shut the fuck up.
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They apparently are so oppressed that they can foment violence and rebellion in their host country with total impunity. Frackin' a, Dirty Harry would have a ball with these Islamotards.
Alalalalalah tikibar!
Posted by: skh.pcola at May 13, 2007 08:01 PM (S4KNm)
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Gee i thoght that muslims and liberals was running england
Posted by: sandpiper at May 13, 2007 09:23 PM (A09bm)
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And when are Brit's going to rise up against Mo-slime oppression?
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at May 13, 2007 11:03 PM (EdIIN)
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No matter how many times I see human eyes staring out through small slits in a black sheet covering it just creeps me out to my core. Muslims, your CULTure is CREEPY! OK?
Posted by: Truther Smurf at May 14, 2007 03:41 PM (HGqHt)
14"No matter how many times I see human eyes staring out through small
slits in a black sheet covering it just creeps me out to my core." Truther Smurf - That's the whole point.
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Oppressed? Are you kidding me? I'll show you oppressed? Granny... go get me the switch! I'm about to take these boys out behind the woodshed and show them how oppressed I think they need to be...
Posted by: DrTheopolis at May 15, 2007 12:34 PM (9ZqGe)
"Radical Muslim" not Muslim?
Big Dick has been engaging "Radical Muslim" and believes he smells bullshit. I told Dick that "Radical Muslim" seems legit to me, and I think this sooper-sekrit video of "Radical Muslim" (WARNING: NSFW, or anywhere for that matter) trying to poison the water in Iraq pretty much speaks to the fact that he's an Islamist terrorist.
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Well, for what it's worth, on cursory inspection, I think he is a Muslim, since he hates Jews (check!), pretends to believe that 9/11 was an 'inside job' (check!), blames all of the world problems on the Israeli-Palestinina thing (check!), thinks 'the West' are the 'real terrorists' (check!) and calls himself Jamal (check!). But, I wouldn't want to have a disagreement with somebody who calls himself 'Big Dick', and as I say, it was just a cursory look (I'm not wasting my valuable time on some mixed-up non-entity), so I'll give Dick the benefit of the doubt. Why not.
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at May 07, 2007 05:54 PM (GjFlK)
Posted by: doriangrey at May 07, 2007 06:29 PM (XvkRd)
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On an unrelated topic, last night's King of the Hill finally showed us who Rusty Shackleford was. All he wanted was his life back. Was that too much to ask?
Posted by: Watergate at May 07, 2007 08:04 PM (BC1Xw)
Thinking Out Loud: Abd al-Hadi -- al Muhajiroun Connection?
Pardon my speculation, but as soon as I learned that the Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi was the 7/7 London bombing mastermind, I couldn't help but think that it was a bit singular that six former al Mujahiroun goons, including Abu Izzadeen who publicly supported the 7/7 terrorists, were arrested just days before the announcement that Abd al-Hadi was in U.S. custody.
Glen Jenvey has been insisting to me for some time that ever since the arrest of Abu Hamza (which he had a hand in) that Omar Bakri Mohammed, and his two right-hand men Abu Izzadeen and Anjem Choudary, were the face of al Qaeda in Britain. A charge that is backed up by hours of video and audio of the group supporting jihadists, including al Qaeda, and Omar Bakri Mohammed's pre-9/11 boasting that he was the spokesperson for al Qaeda in the U.K., an affiliation he later denied.
But another fact suddenly comes to mind, something that didn't really click until just now. The forum on which Izzadeen and other Bakri followers now congregate is called "Islam Base". Al Qaeda literally means, "the Base". *Rusty slaps forehead for overlooking the obvious*
And while the public Islam Base website has taken down literature written by Osama bin Laden, after we exposed them, in private forum members continue to exchange al Qaeda literature.
So, given that there is plenty of evidence that Omar Bakri Mohammed's "Islam Base" followers also support al Qaeda, six of those followers are now in jail, and the al Qaeda operative who masterminded the 7/7 London bombings has just been publicly transferred to Guantanamo, I'm wondering if maybe the two events are somehow connected? Either the decision to make Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi's capture public because of the arrest of the six, or the arrest of the six because of the imminent transfer of al-Hadi to Guantanamo after which his detention would no longer be a secret?
And, as long as we are speculating, I would be remiss in not linking a post over at Atlas Shrugs about the possible connection between a former al Muhajiroun arrested in New York some time ago for financing, you guessed it, al Qaeda, and the recent arrest of a Tamil Tiger terrorist who apparently lived a few doors down. Again, a bit singular. And, again, a connection Glen Jenvey has been pointing out to me for some time, which, to be honest, I've mostly ignored. No more.
Yeah, I visited their site hoping to give some of them some shit, but you have to register just to read the stuff in the forums. Or in other words - they've got something to hide. either that or they're just being good little Muslims and doing the Muslim-thing by obfuscation, misinformation etc. I bet the registration form requires the name, email address and number of Jews blamed for your problems fields.
Incidentally, what's a reasonable amount of money to donate to the Jawa Report?
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at April 28, 2007 10:44 AM (6wu4k)
2al-Hadi, al-Muhajiroun, al-Iraqi, etc... all terrorists.
I'm starting to see a connection here. From now on, I'm looking at my pie al-Amode with great suspicion.
Posted by: Kevin at April 28, 2007 01:35 PM (/ndDU)
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I would like to think we "tortured" the bastard and he coughed up the other 6, but please don't tell the NY Slimes.
Posted by: Rightmom at April 28, 2007 03:01 PM (ElLn4)
4 Infidelsalwayswin - I think in this case, it would be OK for me to speak for Rusty: A reasonable amount is what you can afford.
While that may sound like a smart-ass answer, that's not my intent. It is the most appropriate answer. If you can only afford to send $5, send $5. If you can afford to send $1,000, and you feel that the Jawa Report is personally worth such an expenditure... go for it! Only you know what your budget can withstand, and how much you personally wish to invest in buying beer, bait and porno for Rusty.
Rusty - You know where to send my 10% commission. Thanks.
Posted by: Kafir at April 28, 2007 03:01 PM (HsmTD)
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Well, as long as it goes to a good cause, and I say that with no sarcasm whatsoever. I'll get on it tomorrow.
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at April 28, 2007 03:39 PM (6wu4k)
6six of those followers are now in jail, and the al Qaeda operative who
masterminded the 7/7 London bombings has just been publicly transferred
to Guantanamo
May their days be filled with menstruating infidel guards and the nights blaring Britney Spears.
Posted by: Randman at April 28, 2007 04:56 PM (Sal3J)
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If I only believed his was buying bait. Then, perhaps, I would consider him human. Brainwashed but human. Maybe.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 28, 2007 11:44 PM (x+qDi)
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Thinking out loud. how else can a brainwashed academic meathead think?
Posted by: greyrooster at April 29, 2007 12:12 AM (x+qDi)
Muslims Publicly Demonstrate Six Arrests as "Crusade", Privately Support TerrorAs we announced previously, the followers of Omar Bakri Mohammed were out in force today demonstrating against the arrest of six of their bretheren for supporting terrorism. Predictably, the media covering the event reprints their public lies.
Even a cursory Google search would have shown evidence that Izzadeen and the five others arrested support terrorism--including al Qaeda. The evidence against the six terror supporters is all public!
This is not some crusade against Islam, as the protesters today insisted. And if the Brits really cracked down on all who supported terror in their country, then tens of thousands would have been arrested. Yes, the problem is that bad.
The biggest lie reprinted is that under Shariah law Christians, Jews, and Muslims get along peacefully. This is the same group of protesters who publicly called for the execution of the Pope for "blasphemy". Blasphemy is a capital offense under that wonderful law of Allah's known as Sharia.
This is also the same group which held up signs saying, "Behead those who insult Islam" because some Danish newspapers had offended their religious sensibilities.
If that isn't bad enough, these same people have publicly celebrated the 7/7 mass murderers as well as the "Magnificent 19" who carried out the 9/11 attacks.
Several people in London e-mailed saying they would attend today's rally and send in pics. Hopefully we'll receive them soon.
Islamic supporters of six Muslims arrested in London earlier this week today staged a rowdy demonstration outside the top security police station where they are being held.
Dozens of angry demonstrators branded Tony Blair a "terrorist" while carrying banners stating "Sharia Law - the future, free our Muslim brothers" and "Crusade against Islam"....
Mr [Sayful] Islam said: "We definitely want to see Sharia law in place here. We want to see it implemented for everyone. Only then will there be harmony and there will be peace and justice amongst mankind."...
"We believe that as Muslims Sharia is for everyone and it can actually help solve problems in the world today.
"We have a very good economic system that will deal with homelessness in this country. In Palestine, Jews, Christians and Muslims lived peacefully for over 500 years under Shariah law."
Interestingly, the LSE piece names Sayful Islam as the "organizer" of the protest and as someone who is "very close" to one of the jailed terror supporters, Rajid Khan.
What is so interesting about this is that at the password protected forum where the protest was organized, the person making the announcement simply goes by the name of "Islam Base". This suggest that Sayful Islam, since he is claiming to have organized the rally, is "Islam Base."
Importance? On the same forum "Islam Base"--who appears to by Sayful Islam--answers a querry about the "The University of Al-Qa’idah for the Sciences of Jihad". He answers by attaching a copy of Osama bin Laden's "Declaration of War" and, later on in the same thread, says that the book "39 Ways to Serve and Participate in Jihad" will help the reader prepare.
So, we have Sayful Islam publicly declaring that the six arrested are part of a larger plot--a "crusade"-- by the British government to persecute Muslims...for no good reason. Then, in private, the same man encouraging forum members to train for jihad by distributing al Qaeda literature!
UPDATE: IHT has better coverage, including mention of Anjem Choudary, another lying al Qaeda supporter. No surprise, the rally began in the Regent's Park Mosque:
The protest began shortly after midday prayers at Regent's Park Mosque, where Anjem Choudary, the former leader of the outlawed militant group al-Ghurabaa, addressed the crowd, demanding that they join him in protesting the detention of Izzadeen — a former spokesman for his group.
"You are living under oppression, the government is terrorizing the Muslim community," he told worshippers. "It's about time you stand together." ...
"They bomb us, and occupy our land, and here they arrest at you early in the morning!" he said, to cries of "UK — You will pay!" and shouts of "Allahu Akbar! (God is Great)"
But he predicted the ultimate victory of Muslims over their enemies. "One day, my dear Muslims, the flag of Islam will fly over Downing Street!" he said, to renewed shouts of "Allah Akbar!"
UPDATE II: Unless, of course, Islam didn't really organize the rally and it was really Choudary who goes by the nickname of "Islam Base" at the forum. In which case.........
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"But he predicted the ultimate victory of Muslims over their enemies. "One day, my dear Muslims, the flag of Islam will fly over Downing Street!" he said, to renewed shouts of "Allah Akbar!""
Maybe Prince Harry should start fighting terrorism at home before shipping out to Iraq?
Posted by: Kamchatka Bear at April 27, 2007 02:49 PM (gtZwa)
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We may not be far behind the UK. This article discusses the "need" for more islamic schools in America. We are very much aware of the corriculum in these schools and yet they are being built.
But a more subtle dynamic is at work in the national surge in Islamic private schools. It represents a coming of age, in the view of many Muslim leaders, for a community striving to define itself as a cohesive religious minority in the secular American society.
Islaming of America
Posted by: allahakchew at April 27, 2007 02:58 PM (BrndJ)
Don't you mean the distant past? Eh, anyway, if there's one thing you can bet on, it's that certainly not everybody, and not even your weird little minority will ever get your wish to implement Sharia here. We've had common law here for nearly 1000 years; it's one of our proudest acheivements, and alot of people have suffered and died to get where we are today. And if you think that a bunch of - for the most part - unwanted immigrants from a bunch of countries that're all complete failures in every measurable field is going to change that, then truly you are as a lot of us suspected: fucking insane. Europe is finally beginning to shift to the right in the political spectrum, and although it's taken its precious time, and some are doing it faster than others, it's all in response to a common threat: Islam.
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at April 27, 2007 03:20 PM (HEbmd)
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I tagged you for the Thinking Bloggger Award.
I think that you might have been tagged before, but you can never have enough of them.
Posted by: allahakchew at April 27, 2007 03:41 PM (BrndJ)
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Geeze wouldn't you know it I commented on the above link on my post of #6 and it wasn't accepted. The biggest joke is the first comment, very smart, savy, and putting them down whithout them realizing it. I need to work on my approach so I also will prevail...:-)
Posted by: allahakchew at April 27, 2007 03:45 PM (BrndJ)
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"The biggest lie reprinted is that under Shariah law Christians, Jews, and Muslims get along peacefully."
Rusty, that isnt a lie at all - its absolutely, 100% true. As long as you learn to submit to the laws of your betters (the ummah) you will find peace.
Allah has appointed Muslims to be masters of the Earth. Even Jesus Christ(PBUH) has advised you to obey your superiors for we will have been placed in authority by Him.
So learn to be a good dog and crawl on all fours - but don't forget to send your checks to the IRS (Islamic Revenue Service)!!!
We arent coming to America, WE ARE AMERICANS (but Muslims first!!!)
Posted by: salaamalaikooum at April 27, 2007 05:50 PM (C9xXD)
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Hey Rusty is commenter #9 one of those moderate muslims you support. All muslims eat pig shit and should be deported back to their stinking backward assed countries. OUTLAW ISLAM before it stinks up America more than it already has. They have already brainwashed academic meatheads. We must get rid of them before they brainwash more idealist idiots.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 27, 2007 08:47 PM (7p5VY)
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Hey Greyrooster, if you can't detect the difference between a tongue-in-cheek post and a serious post, you just might have to give back that degree from Cal.
Posted by: Rusty at April 28, 2007 09:47 AM (JQjhA)
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The degree maybe. Never learned anything anyway. My cleets and jersey never.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 28, 2007 04:37 PM (q7s2f)
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And who can tell the difference lately? They sound the same.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 28, 2007 04:38 PM (q7s2f)
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"As long as you learn to submit to the laws of your betters (the ummah) you will find peace." Never happen! The USA will NEVER submit to your disgusting Sharia! If that is the choice of Islam, then there must be a reckoning wherein the mark of Islam is scorched from the face of the Earth, once and for all! If that is the choice, then I will choose war until victory, against ANY who make such demands against my Country. If that is the 'peace' you offer, I say we give you a 'peace' that will be the pleasure of future generations born frree from your insidious threat! You should be sent to your afterlife, and your gravestone should be ashes, and dust! If no Muslim finds fault with what you have said, then they should join you in utter, and absolute destruction! I have no mercy for those who uphold your arguement, and you need to be wiped out!
USA, ALL THE WAY!!!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 30, 2007 10:48 PM (2OHpj)
Howie e-mailed this story earlier this morning (another story here) which claims a new video threatens soccer superstars David Beckham, Wayne Rooney and Thierry Henry. The video is also said to threaten singers Justin Timberlake, Usher, M&M, and P. Diddy. 
Via The Daily Mail, which makes sense, its seems every day there are Muslims burning stuff and spitting in the face of the natins that host them. If I were queen, I think I'd reopen the Tower of London to new guests.
As we announced previously, the followers of Omar Bakri Mohammed were out in force today demonstrating against the arrest of six of their bretheren for supporting terrorism. Predictably, the media covering the event reprints their public lies. 
