Did You Happen To Notice That We Are At War?
The following is a blog I wrote about a year ago. I encountered it while doing some "house cleaning" at my website, and it struck me that the only thing that has changed in the year since I wrote it is the number of attacks, the number of foiled plots and the number of discredited media reports of these incidents.
I am re-posting this blog here with the grim realization that we have, in fact, drifted back into apathetic slumber while our enemies regroup and redouble their efforts against us.
What I find particularly disturbing is a notion that I cannot seem to shake:
Not even a nuclear blast in one of our cities will jolt us out of our stupor for more than a few months. Have we already lost?more...
Sen. Richard Lugar, a senior Republican and a reliable vote for President Bush on the war, said that Bush's Iraq strategy was not working and that the U.S. should downsize the military's role.
The unusually blunt assessment Monday deals a political blow to Bush, who has relied heavily on GOP support to stave off anti-war legislation.
It also comes as a surprise. Most Republicans have said they were willing to wait until September to see if Bush's recently ordered troop buildup in Iraq was working.
"In my judgment, the costs and risks of continuing down the current path outweigh the potential benefits that might be achieved," Lugar, R-Ind., said in a Senate floor speech. "Persisting indefinitely with the surge strategy will delay policy adjustments that have a better chance of protecting our vital interests over the long term."
Only a few Republicans have broken ranks and called for a change in course or embraced Democratic proposals ordering troops home by a certain date. As the top Republican and former chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Lugar's critique could provide political cover for more Republicans wanting to challenge Bush on the war.
Lugar's spokesman Andy Fisher said the senator wanted to express his concerns publicly before Bush reviews his Iraq strategy in September.
"They've known his position on this for quite a while," Fisher said of the White House.
However, Fisher said the speech does not mean Lugar would switch his vote on the war or embrace Democratic measures setting a deadline for troop withdrawals.
In January, Lugar voted against a resolution opposing the troop buildup, contending that the nonbinding measure would have no practical effect. In spring, he voted against a Democratic bill that would have triggered troop withdrawals by Oct. 1 with the goal of completing the pull out in six months.
Next month, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., plans to force votes on several anti-war proposals as amendments to a 2008 defense policy bill. Members will decide whether to cut off money for combat, demand troop withdrawals start in four months, restrict the length of combat tours and rescind Congress' 2002 authorization of Iraqi invasion.
Expected to fall short of the 60 votes needed in the Senate to pass controversial legislation, the proposals are intended to increase pressure on Bush and play up to voters frustrated with the war.
God was the focus, but Hitch pulls absolutely no punches on Islamic terrorism, and corrects Hedges well on his defense of and moral relativism regarding Palestinian suicide bombers.
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Hitchens is the best on this war on terror. He understands it so well, and defends it so completely. His anti-theist stand is, on the other hand, emotional -- his own brother shows how much of it is anger, not fact based.
Posted by: Richard Romano at June 06, 2007 12:13 AM (iD1fP)
The left is forced to defend Islamic terror in their endless quest to promote "multiculturalism," and Hitchens doesn't have any of that.
That effectively makes Hitch an apostate, and the left can't stand it.
Its a beautiful thing to watch Hitchens shred any leftikkk opponent of the Iraq war, since they often have not even a fraction of fact-based understanding of the conflict.
Posted by: Good Lt at June 06, 2007 12:56 AM (yMbfY)
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"Jesus freaks, out on the streets, handin' tickets out for god. Turnin' back, she just laughs, the boulevard is not that bad..."
Posted by: Fishelle Talkin at June 06, 2007 08:12 AM (b0FZu)
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It was no nice watching Hedges get pwned. Man that was sweet. I was smiling with glee as Hitchens verbally skewered the ignorant, bastage. Maybe Hedges will remember to bring a clean set of drawers with him next time he tries to lock horns with Hitch.
Posted by: DrTheopolis at June 06, 2007 10:50 AM (9ZqGe)
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Carlos, calling them "militant atheists" leaves open the question of the Communist Catholics of South America (involved with Communist revolution), and the assorted leftist congregations in the Protestant churches.
Posted by: Phillep at June 06, 2007 11:03 AM (hyg0P)
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There has been some hateful behavior by some Atheists the last few years. I can't quite call the harsh behavior 'militant', but it is agressive, bigoted, and intolerant. I happen to be a huge fan of Chris Hitchens, despite the fact I am religious. Chris Hitchens is not really hateful by comparison with the Atheists I am concerned with, and I have seen him behave quite politely to religious people while disagreeing with them. For 'militant Atheism' you really need to go back to the great communist movements in Russia, and China, where having religion used to be an excuse to torture, and kill you. I think there ARE people in the Atheist camp today, who would be very happy to resume that persecution. Their version of 'human sacrifice' if you like. To me it doesn't matter if you say your motivated by belief, or 'absence of belief', but I do care if you use your thinking to justify abusing others. Thanks.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at June 06, 2007 09:44 PM (2OHpj)
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That article pretty well sums it up. I particularly agree on the weekly TV appearances and the "full strength military on the ground from the start" bits.
He should have his ass on National television every Wednesday night for 30 minutes updating the citizens on how things are going. Instead we get a talking head from the Communist News Network. There's a war of information on and we're losing it.
Posted by: blackflag at June 01, 2007 09:50 AM (Mq5jS)
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Very well-written and mirrors my own sentiments exactly. I don't think I've ever seen a politician completely alienate his base supporters quite like Bush has. And the really irritating thing to me is that he doesn't seem to give a crap. His arrogance has become grating.
Posted by: Richard at June 01, 2007 10:04 AM (osl2z)
Posted by: sandpiper at June 01, 2007 10:29 AM (oCdmx)
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Peggy Noonan has a great article on this where she points out that we have not left the Republicans but rather Bush has thrown us away.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/
Posted by: Randman at June 01, 2007 10:46 AM (Sal3J)
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That's not too long and windy to post here...post it...here and everywhere!
Posted by: Zombie at June 01, 2007 11:12 AM (iJRIB)
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You are being much to kind to Bush. His cute folksey charm is all an act. Bush's handlers have worked hard to craft his image of a Texas cowboy (he was born and raised in Conneticut) - the everyday man. Most everything you see is a mirage. He pretends to clear brush and catch fish, on his fake ranch, in his stocked lake.
President George W. Bush' paranoid megalomania is so rampant that close friends and supporters worry about the man's sanity and fear he has lost his tenuous grip on reality.
Bush, whose arrogant stubbornness knows no bounds, is so wrapped up in his obsession with being President and "commander-in-chief" that his behavior shocks his most ardent supporters.
Writes syndicated columnist Georgie Anne Geyer:
Friends of his from Texas were shocked recently to find him nearly wild-eyed, thumping himself on the chest three times while he repeated "I am the president!" He also made it clear he was setting Iraq up so his successor could not get out of "our country's destiny."
Arnaud de Borchgrave, the rabid Bush supporter who edits the right-wing Washington Times and runs what is left of United Press International, also reports on the meeting:
The self-described "Decider" is the antithesis of self-doubt. Like an old seadog, he relishes the idea of plowing into rough seas.
When a recent visitor asked him what assurance he could give about his successor in 2009, President Bush replied, "we'll fix it so he'll be locked in." The visitor left perplexed and wondered whether that might mean the U.S. would be in a wider war in the region by then. In any event, it didn't sound like twilight time for Mr. Bush.
A Texan friend of longstanding called on him recently and confided to his Washington hosts that Mr. Bush had said three times, bringing a clenched fist to his chest, "I'm the president." Reminding visiting political opponents of this would be normal, but the close friend said he was a taken aback a bit as he had never before seen Mr. Bush in this mode.
What these close friends see is a madman on the edge, a delusional paranoid whose brain is fried by too many years of hard drinking and probably too much cocaine up his nose.
Compared to Bush, Richard M. Nixon appears sane and stone cold sober. Hell, history will probably cast legendary drunk Ulysses S. Grant as a President more in control of himself.
Not only is he wrapped up in the aura of "I'm the President," but he is now determined that anyone who follows him will have to live with his legacy of lies, deceit and despair - his failed war in Iraq, his cancer on "our country's destiny."
The fate of this nation - and indeed the fate of the world - may well depend on the deranged mind of a truly insane President of the United States.
Posted by: Bo at June 01, 2007 12:29 PM (Ywo+X)
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That's a little farther than I'm willing to take it.
Occum's Razor would hold that Bush is simply politically isolated, pushing unpopular policies that neither party likes, and is simply positioning himself to be put out to pasture with as much damage control as he can muster for his legacy.
That, and I think he's just tired. Damn tired.
Posted by: Good Lt at June 01, 2007 12:42 PM (yMbfY)
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Bo, I stopped reading at "paranoid megalomania". Just we acknowledge the man is pissing us off doesn't mean we're stupid and we're going to go along with that lunacy you just posted.
Bad Troll.
Posted by: blackflag at June 01, 2007 01:49 PM (Mq5jS)
I am not a troll. Trolls do not engage in discussions, they only paste and run.
I suggest you familiarize yourself with a little book called Bush on the Couch. It will explain everything to you and you will then see the light. Some rather prominent psychiatrists have staked their professional reputation on their diagnosis that Bush is 100% certifiable. While Doug Thompson does get carried away sometimes with his choice of words, his assessment is supported by medical opinion.
Why would anyone be surprised to learn, at this point, that Bush is mentally unfit to manage anything beyond a corner gas station? A personality disorder (a narcisist sociopathic tendency) would help explain the gross incompetence wouldn't it? He has the attention span and personality of a 10 year old. Money and family power got him the presidency, certainly not ability or talent.
I suppose it is just taking some people a little bit longer to come to the realization that I came to back in 2002. The man is all hat, no cattle.
Posted by: Bo at June 01, 2007 02:04 PM (Ywo+X)
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Bo, I appreciate you going through the effort but Doug Thompson sounds like a lunatic himself (whether or not he really is nuts is another story altogether).
I don't mind entertaining a differing opinion but it has to be presented without sounding like it was drug induced.
Posted by: blackflag at June 01, 2007 02:25 PM (Mq5jS)
12"The fate of this nation - and indeed the fate of the world - may well
depend on the deranged mind of a truly insane President of the United
States."
That's the sound of a Donk snorting. You do yourself a disservice by couching your anger in such extreme and loony language.
We all have disagreements with Bush. Some are more valid than others. Your criticisms are not policy-based. Their personal ad hominem attacks leveled by small, insecure men with BDS throwing temper tantrums.
" Bush is mentally unfit to manage anything beyond a corner gas station? "
Ummm... no. Sorry, but 9-11 deniers are mentally ill. You have no knowledge of Bush's mental state, nor does the author who you cited and admitted gets carried away with his...ahem..."analysis."
He has the attention span and personality of a 10 year old.
Have you done a professional medical evaluation that we're all not aware of? We know the author hasn't, but you apparently have...
Relax. You've got a bit of the BDS and are obviously getting whiffs of the lunatic left's vapors.
Deep breaths. Reasoned arguments. Less ad hominem. You can do it.
Posted by: Good Lt at June 01, 2007 03:38 PM (yMbfY)
If you care to read up on it, the man has been a walking disaster his whole life. The fact that the GOP elected this dork to lead them in 1999 is a mistake they will be paying for for a long long time....
Posted by: Bo at June 01, 2007 04:26 PM (Ywo+X)
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Our Commander in Chief needs your support !!
Desertion in time of war is a capital crime. Impy where are you ?
It is time to bring out the rope !!
The Good Lt just couldn't take it when our dear leader started mouthing that global climate change rhetoric.
Posted by: John Ryan at June 01, 2007 06:46 PM (TcoRJ)
15Some rather prominent psychiatrists have staked their professional reputation on their diagnosis that Bush is 100% certifiable.
Psychiatrist? Bwahhaaaahaaaa. All they know how to do is prescribe drugs.
John Ryan. Are you back from your gay retreat? Nice to know that all that man juice didn't improve your inability to even be close to topic.
Posted by: Randman at June 01, 2007 07:05 PM (Sal3J)
Posted by: greyrooster at June 02, 2007 12:06 AM (0CFtS)
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Bo: Our president is worn out from the enemy within. 6 1/2 years of lefturd liberal assholes constantly bitching and showing disrespect for him and his office. I guess a better president in your mind would be one who spends his time getting blowjobs in the whitehouse while his wife covers his and her past criminal activity. Fuck you and all you lefturd assholes who have aided the enemy the past five years. There was as many of you lefturds who wanted war as others. Only you bastards don't have the stomach for it.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 02, 2007 12:15 AM (0CFtS)
What gave you the impression I was a Liberal? Sounds like you're projecting.
YOUR president is a complete failure as a leader and manager. He has been this way his whole life. Don't blame others. You are only fooling yourself if you think Liberals are responsible for Bush's lack of accomplishments. The man is not a sacred cow and history will not be kind to the man who has done so much damage to America.
Posted by: Bo at June 02, 2007 08:01 AM (euN4c)
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The man's a self made millionaire. Not that I take that as a major accomplishment but blows the hell out of your failure bullshit. He got some help from daddy but he did allright in business. I know how hard it is to fight the system and come out with a few bucks. I also know how much harder it is to keep. Only in America do people worship wealth and property. Then complain when someone attains it. Most democrat politicians start poor and make their millions while in office. I'll take the ones who made a few bucks first. The choice was Bush or Kerry. Two bad we cannot judge the job Kerry would have done. Of the two. Bush was best choice by far. So quit your stupid bitching. Those who never achieve anything or get anywhere in life shouldn't judge those that do. And quit playing the middle. Either get on one side or the other. Not standing for anything and complaining about those that try to do something is low. At best.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 05, 2007 01:20 AM (1h1Tb)
What is said today of the Mexicans, Guatemalans, Salvadorans and others was once said of Germans, Swedes, the Irish, Italians, Poles, Jews and others. The only difference is that in the past, the xenophobes could speak freely, unconstrained by a veneer of political correctness. Today, they speak more cautiously, so they talk about the rule of law, national security, amnesty, whatever else they think might make their arguments less racially charged.
Where once the xenophobes could advocate forced sterilization and eugenics coupled with virtually shutting off legal immigration from "undesirable" countries, now they must be content with building walls, putting troops on the border, rounding up illegal aliens on the job and deporting them, passing local ordinances to signal their distaste for immigrants' multi-family living arrangements, and doing whatever else they can to drive these people back where they came from...
[W]e need to quit pretending that the "No Amnesty" crowd is anything other than what it is: a tiny group of angry, frightened and prejudiced loudmouths backed by political opportunists who exploit them.
Way to go, Linda. Way to maximize the fallout from our unnecessarily public intra-party fight over this issue. Let's convince minorities that Republicans are only concerned about illegal immigration because they're a bunch of racists and bigots, shall we?
Linda Chavez is a piece of shit, and I don't choose those words lightly. In a time when our emotions are raw, and our social fabric is wearing thin, you've just told people across this country that people with whom they thought they simply had honest disagreements over policy secretly hate them. You've told them, unequivocally, that those immigration discussions they've had with their Anglo friends haven't really been about a concern for America. They've really been about a secret racist hatred harbored not that far below the surface.
I have a very good friend who is an immigrant from Central America. A conversation last year over immigration got to the point where she accused me of being a "racist, just like the rest of those people" at which point I told her she was welcome to call me when she realized she owed me an apology, and I hung up.
We didn't talk again for almost a year--and may have never talked again except for a chance occurence.
Because of the caustic, careless rhetoric of people like George W. Bush and Linda Chavez, my friend had become thoroughly convinced that anyone who opposed Bush's immigration bill could only be motivated by racism and hatred. There was, after all, no other possible explanation for it. The President himself said so! (He is, you remember "a uniter, not a divider.") The careless words of demagogues like Bush and Chavez served to nearly destroy a decade-long friendship--all this so big agriculture can keep down the cost of tomatoes.
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What is up with these people? Chavez calling me a racist, Chertoff saying I want the death penalty for illegals, and yesterday Bush with his "don't want what's right for America" horseshit. They're pulling the same pouting bullshit the libs do when things don't go their way.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 30, 2007 04:56 AM (K/lgF)
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Well...that goes both ways. I have now told a liberal I know that called me a racist that he is for rapes of little girls and terrorist. Because when we don't check the background of these illegals we allow the pedophiles and terrorist in without hindrance.
Posted by: Randman at May 30, 2007 09:21 AM (Sal3J)
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Absolutly positivly no amnesty for illegal aleins how many terrorists are with them?
Posted by: sandpiper at May 30, 2007 10:20 AM (qMAo+)
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You know what the difference between the Germans, Swedes, Irish, Italians, Poles, Jews and even Asians is? They assimilated. Sure they brought a bit of their culture with them but they became Americans first. They may call themselves Italian-Americans or Irish-Americans, etc., but they adopted the language of their new homeland and didn't expect special treatment because they were a minority. So, I concur with you Ragnar, fuck you Linda Chavez! My ancestors came from Norway and Mexico as legal immigrants to this country. They abided by the laws of this land and assimilated to become Americans never forgetting who they were or where they came from. Linda Chavez needs to grow up and quit defending law breakers who don't want to assimilate to this country nor abide by its laws. As far as I'm concerned if you don't want to come to the US legally, then get the fuck out because you need to go back and jump through the hoops to earn it. So, fuck you Linda, why don't you go to Mexico, Guatemala or El Salvador and live amongst those people since you seem to appreciate them more than your fellow Americans.
Posted by: DrTheopolis at May 30, 2007 11:17 AM (9ZqGe)
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To make them assimilate is inherently racist according to many on the left.
Posted by: Randman at May 30, 2007 12:02 PM (Sal3J)
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This is exactly what the country club Republicans did to us during the Harriett Myers nomination. Fuck them. Let them lose another election for all I care
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I have officially had e-fracking-nough of Bush. He's beyond being a RINO now: He's the leader of the left wing of the Republican party.
This administration can't end soon enough. Let the Dems have it all - Congress, Senate, Whitehouse - and we'll see how they deal with the next wave of Islamic mass murder and social unrest.
This country is SO screwed. But then, I'm an apocaholic.
Posted by: Hucbald at May 30, 2007 12:21 PM (rPAI7)
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Well, Randman, all I can say is fuck the left too!
Posted by: DrTheopolis at May 30, 2007 12:45 PM (9ZqGe)
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No one ever calls Rosie the Hut racist or sexist for her, "old white men", rants.
Posted by: Howie at May 30, 2007 01:39 PM (YHZAl)
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On 1 June I will depart from the Republican party. Now make no mistake, I will never, ever, EVER vote for anyone with a "D" next to their name, but no longer are the Republican's guaranteed my vote. Maybe I will will attempt to register as a "Free Radical". I'll write in Tancredo or Thompson (Please G*d let him run) or Mickey f*cking Mouse if I have to. Or simply "None of the Above". Praise G*d and pass the ammo (and that's from an evil atheist).
Posted by: doriangrey at May 31, 2007 12:55 AM (XvkRd)
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I have a friend who is a reader of Kos, and Media Matters. Tell me about it. I have been dodging that bullet for quite some time. Sorry about what happened with your friend. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at May 31, 2007 05:35 AM (2OHpj)
'Mind-Altering Worldviews'
Pr. Bruce Moon has a dynamite piece on the self-inflicted, anti-survivalist weakness and stupidity that liberalism has inflicted on our country:
Some viral idea has crept into our collective national consciousness, offering us a false wisdom and a feigned hope, while it meanwhile shuts down vital parts of our mental operational systems designed to initiate self-survival programs. We are fast approaching the point where either we must reject the pterodactyl-like hallucinations of irrational humanistic constructs that only produce mind-boggling complacent stupor, political correctness contrivances, and cowardice, or we will become a pitiful specter of our former selves through our utter stupidity.
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Looks like a perfect description of the robotic 28%ers who support the Fuhrer cult... They all march in lockstep, mindlessly repeat talking points, and chant slogans.
Posted by: Evil Progressive at May 22, 2007 10:29 AM (R1Zqb)
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Yep, Ghandi is the one who said the US should surrender to the Nazis and the Jews should have all marched willingly into the gas chambers.
Fuck Ghandi. Oh, and unlike all you retarded lefties, I actually studied under one of Ghandi's direct students. And I still think he was a fundamentally immoral man, incapable of recognizing the existence of evil in the world.
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Ahhhh! Others know the true about Ghandi. But we must remember he was exactly what the liberal pricks of the world look for. Simple little shits that in reality contribute nothing to the world except a corrupt family. Oh yes. He did do one thing. CREATED PAKISTAN. ME: you're a fucking idiot. Get out from under that rock and look at the real world. Or better yet move to a better place. Can you name one?
Posted by: greyrooster at May 22, 2007 08:40 PM (xGret)
Ghandi was a man, not an unassailable God. He was a good man and an important leader, but he was still human and his philosophies had flaws like any other.
Like his preference for suicide over self defense.
Quit deifying your heroes. Its pathetic.
Posted by: Good Lt at May 22, 2007 11:52 PM (yMbfY)
The Coming Malestrom of Sex, and Thoughts
Just putting this out there.
The upcoming wave of hysteria that will sweep the nation over the DC Madame story will be unlike anything seen in America since the Salem witch trials. It will be 24-7-365 when it really gets going. Just get ready for it.
Personally, I think this is a step in the right direction. I don't care what party solicits prostitution - its illegal and therefore especially intolerable coming from public officials. This event will be an effective bloodletting that will no doubt put Washington on notice. Unethical behavior like this is what the right decried in Clintoon, so nobody should be defending it in GOPers just because there is an (R) in front of the name. I'm personally watching with popcorn - its like pouring alcohol on an open wound. Good pain.
Of course, the same people that will be howling for scalps now are the same defenders of Bill Clinton's numerous trysts and subsequent public lies, as well as the same people that gave Gerry Studds a standing ovation and re-elected him for another 14 years after he fled the US to have sex with a 17 year-old male page. They're also the same people who cheer every time former DC Gay Escort Service madame Barney Frank bangs his sippy-cup on the House floor. This we all know. It frankly is irrelevant to the current controversy, but it will help you to slap moonbats down with historical bi-partisan context.
I'm also predicting that we will see ABC name Republican after Republican in this scandal- one at a time for a nice drip-drip-drip going into 2008. They will systematically omit and ignore the legions of high-profile Democrats no doubt populating this massive list of phone numbers. ABC will expose itself as a willing PR/Media activist wing of the Democrat Party. This nonsense about ABC "struggling" to release more names and details is a load. They're trying to do preemptive damage control on the Democrats involved, as well as contacting lawyers, friends in government, etc. The ABC news division knows that they can't just exclusively bludgeon the GOP with this while still retaining their "objective" credentials any more than FOX News could to Democrats if it were doing the same thing in ABC's position .
Unless, of course, you're expecting the nation to believe that the GOP are the sole solicitors of prostitution in DC, and the Party of Clenis, Barney Frank, etc. are the high priests of morality. I know you're not that stupid.
Oh, and this. I've been suffering from a bout of Bush Admin fatigue of late. I like the guy and think that he's really trying, but his lame-duck status has rendered his already-tepid Administration effectively powerless. The only thing I really still support W. on is the war, and that's not because I'm in love with W. I'm in love with the military, so I want to see their sacrifices honored by winning decisively. President Bush may be standing pat with the Troops and that's fine, but the prospects of a Democrat takeover triggering a national and world-wide disgrace not seen in 35 years loom large. Bush is the ONLY thing between complete oblivion for the Military and what we have now. As some once put it, I want to defend him but he makes it really hard sometimes.
Everything else he has done (save tax cuts and SCOTUS justices) has basically amounted to what would've been passed under a Democrat White House. Open borders, pork out the wazoo, indecisive policy positions, general bumbling and incompetence, corruption (both parties), bad articulation of the policies and underlying philosophies, etc. have all left me with the same Bush Admin.-fatigue that I'm sure many of you feel. Its probably more big-and-dumb-government-fatigue than it is specifically Bush Admin. fatigue, but there it is.
Posted by: Randman at April 29, 2007 11:07 AM (Sal3J)
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I always knew the democrat and republican leadership in America was full of clowns, I just did not know they were all fookin' clowns!
Party on down you worthless airbags Islam's gonna fix your a$$ one day if American's don't wise up and do it for you <I;^D
Posted by: Barry at April 29, 2007 11:15 AM (xQq4i)
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Why else would someone which to be a politician? There's the pussy and the money. Take away the pussy and they'll focus on the money.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 29, 2007 11:50 AM (1p01H)
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Good post. Curious: who would have been the ideal president for post 9/11?
Posted by: Sharm at April 29, 2007 12:20 PM (xVW97)
5This nonsense about ABC "struggling" to release more names and details is a load. They're trying to do preemptive damage control on the Democrats involved, as well as contacting lawyers, friends in government, etc. The ABC news division knows that they can't just exclusively bludgeon the GOP with this while still retaining their "objective" credentials any more than FOX News could to Democrats if it were doing the same thing in ABC's position ......................
Well put.
You'd think we'd be immune by now after decades of countless lies spewed out by ABC, cBS, NBC, MSNBC etc. , But the anti-American bastards can still make my blood boil.
Posted by: Rubin at April 29, 2007 01:50 PM (fYsQt)
Posted by: Randman at April 29, 2007 02:29 PM (Sal3J)
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I'm sure the "drip, drip, drip" routine will sour very quickly, and there will be an overwhelming call for the ENTIRE unabridged list to be made public, and I believe it eventually will... but not until after the 2008 elections. Until then, it will be Republican after Republican being bitch-slapped into exile. Once the Phlegmocraps have the WH and veto/fillibuster-proof majorities, they can just wrist-slap their Democrat peers.
No, I'm not an optimist about this.
Posted by: Hucbald at April 29, 2007 02:47 PM (JltuL)
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I have that same fatigue, but bush jr only gets a part of the blame, most goes to the idiots and saboteurs that he has surrounded himself with. Little did he know that he was to be ruined by his so called friends and appointees.
But that is what happened.
Then you have the rabid democrats and the wishy-washy republicans and the corrupt of both parties and the idioticy of the liberal socialist left.
What is a Nation to do?
On top of all that, you have the Islamic hordes, the mexican hordes, the back stabbing, deceitful Saudis and Egyptians, a crumbling Britian and our old and new enemies France and Italy.
Talk about ganging up and overkill.
Sometimes I just want to turn everything off and forget what is going on and concentrate on other aspects of my life. But as I have little time left here, I want to continue preparing my family for the worse, and to do that I need to be involved and know what is going on.
As there will be little warning, when things go south.
Papa Ray
West Texas
USA
Posted by: Papa Ray at April 29, 2007 09:41 PM (gQ03B)
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I think we should go into "attack mode" against the Dems, and not give accidental fire support to the left. They have all the help they need. I can't eat popcorn while the city is burning, and I LIKE POPCORN
Spread the ugly truth about Dems, and terrorists. The media doesn't need our help ruining the country. Thanks for the article, and your soap-box is well deserved
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 29, 2007 09:51 PM (2OHpj)
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A federal judge declared the list cannot be published. Probably wishes to look at it first (in camera) so he can tear out the page with his name on it.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 29, 2007 09:55 PM (zW8V9)
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Sex is only an indiscretion if one is a Republican.
If one is a Democrat, it is a private matter.
Didn't you get the memo?
Posted by: Barry at April 30, 2007 01:41 AM (kKjaJ)
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I would like to point out that I am NOT the 'Barry' of post#2
Posted by: Barry at April 30, 2007 01:53 AM (kKjaJ)
The Downfall of Quality Parenting and Society as a Whole
Wednesday night Aubree played in her Kindergarten program, Down on the Farm. Aubree and the other Kindergarteners did a fabulous job putting on a great show. I'm pretty damn proud of my child at this point.
However, the parents of the Kindergarteners were the ones that absolutely baffled me. I can not completely blame the parents for being fools, but they were the adults. The way they configured the gym for the performance was somewhat baffling. They have a stage but opted not to use it for one reason or the other. Therefore, everyone was on the same level (minus the three-tiered three foot high risers that the kids were on). When you couple the fact that the children were brought into the gym via a parent/family engulfed route, when a simple stage right entry point was available, it just exacerbated matters.
The instant a child was in sight, every parent (other than me and maybe two others) flocked toward the line of children. I'm just curious when society decided to make every event a Playstation 3 giveaway on release day. It literally looked like a bunch of crack fiends rushing the door at the methadone clinic. That was the first sign that doing any kind of serious video work should be abandoned and I should just do my best to get what I could get (which means don't worry about the other children just get video of Aubree).
After the initial rush of parents flocking to their children, it didn't really stop. Every parent lined up the center aisle taking pictures. Two other fathers and I had cameras within eighteen inches of each other and all three of us were dumbfounded. One father made the other the other father and I laugh by saying, "The center aisle is for loading and unloading only." Just out of curiosity, since when is a camera phone an acceptable way to take pictures of ones child? We're not talking a Japanese camera phone; we're talking an American one. The scene was such a mad house you couldn't even tell that the children had started singing.
After that, you would think that parents would have gone back to their seats. But, no, there were parents sitting in the center aisle nearly blocking any and all possibilities of doing a "class" video. Then, the absolutely unthinkable happened. A father and his older daughter meandered back into my area. I'm standing there with still camera in hand and video camera propped up on a tripod standing some six feet tall (red light on; recording). The father looks me dead in the eye, stops and turns dead nuts center of my shot. If this was target practice, he'd be full of holes.
At that point, I was ready to snap the neck of anyone that uttered a semi-foul thing in my general direction. However, I remained calm and went mobile. I took the video camera off the tripod and moved forward. I literally had to keep moving forward, too. The second I got somewhere a parent would walk by blurring the shot or stopped in front of me impeding the shot. I literally walked to the back row of chairs right of the center aisle and stood so close to the parents in the back row I could have tea bagged three and not even had known it.
You would think all would be well and good at this point. You would be sadly mistaken. The situation was less than optimal to say the least. However, the real trick came when I needed to do video with the right hand and stills with the left. It's a good thing I know how to see to different images at the same time because that's what I had to do. My right eye was in the view finder of the video camera making sure I kept Aubree in the shot and the left eye was looking at the screen on the digital camera taking pictures of the PowerPoint slide that was up on the screen.
Oh! And since when is it acceptable to use PowerPoint during a play?
Then the real obvious sense of the digression of the human race back into the caveman era began. The background noise was absolutely absurd during the entire presentation. It was like not only were the children learning how to perform but the parents were learning how to enjoy the show. Noise from the audience, at one point, was easily louder than the mic'ed up children. No one knew how to sit down and be quiet. I was a church mouse leaning up against the back wall. I had to be, I was recording. The noise level got so bad that Aubree's teacher got on the mic and told the audience to be quiet. Did that work? No. Why does anyone have to do anything they don't want to do, like being quiet? That's the nature of American society today I guess.
So my experience in trying to make good photography works was less than pleasurable. My battery ended up dying as the school's principal droned on thanking everyone and their brother and he had every right to do that. It's my fault for not making sure the battery was fully charged to begin with.
Then the dismissal came. I really had wished that the teachers would have thought more clearly about how they dismissed the children and what the obvious human reaction would have been at that point. When the announcement was made that, "We'll release your child to you when we see you," that's when I knew that my daughter was going to be the patient one and I had plenty of time to pack up my gear.
There was a mad rush towards the stage. Parents were stampeding to get their children as if it was a competition to see who was going to be the first one to get their child. Parents were literally trampling each other to reach their children. Teachers wanted this to happen because it was somehow safer?
I packed up my gear, put on my jacket, parted the Red Sea to find Aubree sitting patiently on the top row of the risers waiting for her daddy to come swoop her out of the madness and that's exactly what I did. We took the quickest path between Aubree's location and what I knew was an exit door. Between making eye contact with Aubree and us being out of the mad house may have been literally fifteen seconds.
Now, explain to me why parents holding their children continued to stand up front blocking walkways, aisles, and exit points. People were taking more pictures and having conversations in the front row where children were supposed to be picked up. I was simply dumbfounded.
The moral of the story is, Aubree did a fantastic job and that's all that should really matter to me. But, I'm very concerned about the downfall of society.
Video of the play is available exclusively at chrisshort.net.
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Most Americans I meet are mouth-breathing morons thanks to decades of deliberate enstupidation by liberal policies, so none of this sad tale shocks me in the least.
Posted by: Improbulus Maixmus at April 27, 2007 06:55 AM (jQsc/)
although i read here a lot (top 3), i don't know what part of the country you're in (so that i know not to live near these jackasses - for i would go to jail straight away). how is this even moderately acceptable?
Posted by: dave at April 27, 2007 10:26 AM (JC+x3)
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Rude people irritate me. Their only concern is themselves. Liberal ideology. Just my two cents but I would have a talk with the principal in regards to a real saftey issue, ie. blocking aisle, exit points, etc. It happened to me much in the same way it happened to you. After I spoke with the principal a notice was sent out to all parents regarding the safety and well being of the children during assembly. He politely let them have it. It wasn't perfect after this but was a heck of alot better. Now if you have a liberal principal then umm, I don't know.
Posted by: allahakchew at April 27, 2007 01:45 PM (BrndJ)
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Randman! I'm betting it was California! Because! Second guess is Colorado, for no valid reason except the snow pics he also has on his page. No offense to folks from any state. We all have them
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 27, 2007 04:03 PM (2OHpj)
Armenian Genocide Remembrance
On April 24, 1915, turkish soldiers arrested 250 Armenians in the first of hundreds of raids designed to wipe out the Armenian population of Turkey. Never forget.
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There must be some sort of mistake. Muslims are peaceful people who never did anything wrong to anyone, ever. Indeed, the word Islam means 'peace'. No, this must be a Zionist conspiracy to make Muslims look like bloodthirsty, medieval savages for some reason. It was the IDF that dressed up as Turkish soldiers and rounded the Armenians up and executed them. That's the only reasonable explanation. How could an institution do that 36 years before they even existed? Simple: time-travel. Read between the lines, wake up sheeple, cover yourself in tinfoil...
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at April 24, 2007 02:42 PM (zyFYz)
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My deepest sympathies to all Armenians everwhere.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at April 24, 2007 03:00 PM (j97MF)
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the only solution to the global war on terror is the complete annhilation of the arab race. every last arab man, woman, and child must be slaughtered or we will pay the price in future terrorist acts...
God Bless America
Posted by: Alan Jay Robertson at April 24, 2007 04:48 PM (DCZ7U)
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Umm, in all fairness... It wasn't modern Turkey that perpetrated the genocide; it was the Ottoman Empire. Modern Turkey was founded after a war of independence from 1919 to 1923. It's a bit like saying that Russia killed ten million people, as opposed to saying Stalin killed ten million people.
Posted by: Lehosh at April 25, 2007 10:08 AM (BXpVN)
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"It's a bit like saying that Russia killed ten million people, as opposed to saying Stalin killed ten million people" The main thing is that we never forget this happened, or why, and we never let it happen again! USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 25, 2007 11:05 AM (2OHpj)
How Schoolteachers Reprogram Budding Capitalists...
A group of schoolteachers in Seattle noticed that free exchange of LEGO toys within the classroom resulted in negotiation, barter and exchange, a vigorous level of activity and a lot of cooperation:
Discussions like the one above led to children collaborating on a massive series of Lego structures we named Legotown. Children dug through hefty-sized bins of Legos, sought "cool pieces," and bartered and exchanged until they established a collection of homes, shops, public facilities, and community meeting places. We carefully protected Legotown from errant balls and jump ropes, and watched it grow day by day.
Being properly-educated schoolteachers, they were, of course, ultimately horrified by the fact that some children ultimately collected more LEGOs than others and were thereby able to wield more influence over Legotown than some other children. This is, of course, unacceptable to left-wing mind, so the teachers undertook an extensive program to "intercede" so as to guilt the successful children into accepting that their "selfish" activities were wrong, and to nurture a sense of envy within the less-succesful children:
1In other words, they worked to convince the children that they should have been unhappy playing the game they were originally playing.
Leftwing totalitarianism seeks to change the very way you think. It's not enough that you comply with their worldview you must do it with a smile and love it.
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"We're the National ""Education" Association - Destroying America, one child at a time!"
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at March 28, 2007 07:46 PM (ZKng9)
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What happened to the 3 R's we are paying our taxes for.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 28, 2007 08:09 PM (LXuMj)
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And after being reprogrammed to be complete idiots, they all grew up to become democrats, liberal and teachers.
Posted by: wb at March 29, 2007 05:01 AM (D4E90)
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Life is about winning and losing. If you don't have the guts to do what it takes to win just shut up and it down. Damn Socialists get on my nerves.
Posted by: blackflag at March 29, 2007 08:44 AM (Mq5jS)
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Even in a wide open 'free' market like say China, there are still some regulations...
Posted by: tbone at March 29, 2007 03:34 PM (HGqHt)
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I have to restate my opinion... there is a teacher in Lousiana who was harrassed, demoted and finally suspended for giving 70 % of her high school students a failing grade in English and refusing to change the grade when the school board demanded that she do so. Why the hell does this type of person have to be the freaking exception to the rule? Of course $1.2 million awarded for civil lawsuit that the wealthy tax payers of La can easily afford to pay out with all the surplus cash availale for it's students education. It's time for who ever is at the helm and takes these dumb ass positions to pay the price. That will put an abrupt end to it.
Posted by: wb at March 30, 2007 11:09 PM (L3O5+)
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New Orleans schools are now under state control.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 02, 2007 10:43 PM (9nRcM)
Thoughts on John and Elizabeth Edwards
It seems to have become fashionable these days to rejoice when fellow Americans fall ill. I see it all the time from the left, and I really hope it doesn't start to catch on over on the right. However much I may disagree with John Edwards the politician, my heart goes out to John and Elizabeth Edwards and their families. Cancer is very real to most of us. It recently took away my grandmother, one of the sweetest and kindest women I've ever known. Not too many years before, it took my grandfather. Someday, cancer will probably take me. Though I'll fight John Edwards and his ideas tooth-and-nail in the political arena, I wish the Edwards family all the best as they struggle with this.
I hate to see anyone have to go through that cancer chemo and radiation crap. Believe me, it's rough.
I mean the cancer is bad enough, but the treatment is literally poison. The goal is to introduce poison into your body, hopefully in low enough doses that it kills the cancer before either the cancer or the poison kills you.
Trust me, scary, scary shit!
My heart goes out to them, and I hope she pulls through.
V5
Posted by: V5 at March 23, 2007 11:14 AM (bP+3v)
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No Sir, No mercy should be shown to those who are merciless!
I wonder if the left-wing crazies are rejoicing as much at this as they did when Cheney fell ill! Did JE leap to his defence?
This "cancer" is JE's last best hope to cut into the Clinton/Obama lead and it's going to be milked every step of the way.
What "A Convenient Cancer"! Now what we really need is for a special part of Bill to fall off through misuse and some crazy Muslim to do Obama for being an apostate!
Nothing accrues votes like sympathy and tragedy!
Middah Ke-neged Middah! The Bible said it long, long before Shakespeare did.
Posted by: eliXelx at March 23, 2007 11:50 AM (GtVvx)
Posted by: Howie at March 23, 2007 12:10 PM (YHZAl)
5eliXelx:
"No Sir, No mercy should be shown to those who are merciless!"
There is a difference between political opposition and divesting yourself of all common decency. Would you become the thing you so despise?
Hmm... maybe you could fly an airliner into the Edwards campaign headquarters! al-Qaeda finds that an acceptable form of political expression... and it is down this path that your philosophy leads.
Posted by: Kafir at March 23, 2007 12:13 PM (HsmTD)
No one, regardless of political affiliation, should lose their common decency. To do so makes us no better than those we despise. We are not radical muslims and we are no Huff-Po or DailyKos. WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM BECAUSE OF OUR DECENCY!!
While I agree that sympathy garners votes, I think eliXelx is completely wrong in his statements about showing no mercy.
Let's not emulate the sick and disgusting! Rather, let's be the honest, kind, compassionate, and decent people that we are.
eliXelx writes, "Middah Ke-neged Middah! The Bible said it long, long before Shakespeare did."
Well, the bible says to turn the other cheek, and also talks about compassion and treating each other kindly and with respect. And as conservative/Republicans aren't we the "Christians?" Shouldn't we be acting in a manner befitting our ideals and beliefs?
Besides, it's not all liberals/Democrats that act in this fashion. We shouldn't lump them altogether just because a sect of them treat us in a terrible manner.
Everybody in all service professions are complete fuck ups UNTIL they need one of them!
Feel sorry for her
Him - it's called KARMA hitting like a ton of bricks (assuming he is the loving hudband he claims to be)
Posted by: Peter Griffin at March 23, 2007 01:56 PM (R4293)
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Cancer sucks, treatments sucks, may the Edwards find strength in the upcoming months to battle this. I've been there and done that and don't wish it on my worst enemies.....well maybe one enemy..ROP
Posted by: allahakchew at March 23, 2007 04:31 PM (BrndJ)
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Cancer killed my Dad. I think how we regard this news depends on whether we think of Edwards as truely evil, or merely a misguided pain in the ass. I could be happy to know Osama bin Laden ws dying from a horrible desease. I could be happy if Hitler had suffered a wasting horrible death. Those men are clearly evil. I cannot say that about Edwards, or his wife. I think the Edwards' deserve our sympathy. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 23, 2007 06:26 PM (2OHpj)
I have argued against John Edwards and his politics from Day-1. I am happy to go into the ring as if it were a WWF Smackdown event. That's politics.
Cancer, however, is a whole 'nother ball game. As much as I detest John Edwards and his Trial-Lawyer background, I have nothing but compassion for his good wife.
Death is the great equalizer. Regardless of your politics, regardless of your station, we each owe G@d a death, and He will collect it. It's how we go out that matters, and this is a terrible, terrible way to leave.
I hope, sincerely hope, that G@d will have mercy on Mrs Edwards and heal her affliction. it is the right thing to wish for. Regardless of how I may feel towards John Edwards and his politics, he is still an American, and he is still, if G@d is to be believed, my brother, and I cannot wish him or his family ill. I cannot and will not rejoice in their physical suffering from such a horrible disease.
My country's enemies? Well, that is a horse of a different color.
Respects,
Posted by: Gwedd at March 23, 2007 08:35 PM (SfKUJ)
President Bush and his advisers "don't have a plan" nor an "overarching strategy" to fix the problems in Iraq, said Sen. Jim Webb, the newly elected Virginia Democrat who will deliver his party's official response Tuesday to the president's State of the Union address.
This really upsets me. I also watched the News Hour interview with President Bush on PBS. Immediately following the interview, Brooks comes on and comments on the interview. He made the same accusation, no plan.
Why does this upset me? You might ask.
Well the vast majority of people get their news passively. They listen to what is presented and they tend take the news as facts. Of course they know that the facts are colored and most people take that into account when watching.
But Pundits like Brooks and politicians like Webb make these statements knowing full well that there is a plan. They can't claim ignorance. It's their job to know the &^%$ plan. They just don’t report what that plan is. They Know that if they don’t’ talk about the plan itself, they can create a perception that there is none amongst their passive chip munching viewers.
So I advise everyone to be an active news consumer. You have to go out and seek information because they sure as hell won’t report a lot of it.
Here is my rebuttal, the actual outline of the President’s plan. No one has any other plan that even comes close to the detail of this. And if there is one the press and the Democrats are sure as hell are keeping it under wraps.
See the entire outline belove the fold. I'd like to put in on the front page but like I said, It's long and detailed. (Howie under his breath: no effing plan how effing stupid do they thing we are ? Go^&%$#^mn no good politician MFs, sons of &*^&&^% they are the ones with no effing plan, lying MF c*&^ suckers)
more...
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If by "moderate coaltion" you mean an Iraqi government sympathetic to broad American Middle East policy of, say,
the past thirty years, it is not in the cards. Now if we move
Israel off the West Bank like we moved Saddam out of Kuwait,
we might start to set the table of reconciliation .
Posted by: Ken Hoop at January 23, 2007 06:18 PM (EPkr9)
2Now if we move
Israel off the West Bank like we moved Saddam out of Kuwait,
we might start to set the table of reconciliation .
Yeah, that worked really well in Gaza and Lebanon.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 23, 2007 06:25 PM (8e/V4)
Why don't we just put the Jews in ovens? Fucking Nazi asshole. As if any concession could ever pacify the koranimals.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 23, 2007 07:30 PM (abVz3)
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It's a new paradigm, Jeffie-the Nazi references don't cut it anywhere
in the world beyond the Hollywood-New York-Tel Aviv axis
anymore.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at January 23, 2007 07:57 PM (EPkr9)
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The Democrats are ready to throw Bush, the Military, Iraq and the rest of us all under the bus. As for not doing their job, that was documented long ago when the classified reading room sign in list was made public showing that while Congress was demanding more reports, they NEVER went to read them! Didn't stop them from dishing out the bad ones and leaking them to the press.
Seems that they are on a roll at the moment. If they are lucky they will really push us to defeat in Iraq, about the time that Hillary wins the '08 election and Iran proves that they have the bomb by testing it in Israel.
Iraq is the high ground, and they are just going to toss it away, like Somalia, leaving it for a future Republican Administration to fix.
By that time, we will be adding Russia to the Axis of Evil again.
GREAT......
Posted by: Fred Fry at January 23, 2007 08:52 PM (hLi8T)
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"Well the vast majority of people get their news passively. They listen
to what is presented and they tend take the news as facts."
It's worse than that. The vast majority of people create the fantasy they want to believe it and then hold tenaciously to their illusions as if they were indeed facts. Thomas Sowell wrote that the two great wars of the last century were fought between those who tried to fit realilty to their theories and those who tried to fit their theories to reality. Take a tour of Boston sometime and find out where one half lives.
Posted by: Jeremy at January 23, 2007 09:21 PM (v8c9Z)
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No, I'm upset with the Democrats for still campaining and not governing. They could care less about today it's 2008 they are looking at. I have been thinking about this every since teh plan was offered. I intended to give the Demcrats a chance. One lefty blog I read yesterday advised Democrats not to "twist the knife". He says it's a mistake. An arrogant mistake. And he's right. The doomocrats cant get out of campain mode and inot governing mode. I called teh republicans two years ago on arrogance and they demcrats did not learn by what happened to the Republicans. They are now doing the exact same thing. They may get through 2008 OK but they willl screw themselves just like the Republicans did and the whole thing reverses again. You can bet the farm on it. It's one of those fundamental truths of life.
Politicians suck.
Sorry for the rant, I was a little upset at the time.
Posted by: Howie at January 23, 2007 10:48 PM (2cR/Y)
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Political parties suck. They should be outlawed.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 23, 2007 11:54 PM (8e/V4)
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Eliminate, and replace parties with 'campaigns' named for your candidate, or your interest group. People will still need to organize themselves to pursue goals they share, but there will be more choices, and more honesty, and actually, more disclosure. I think that's fair. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 24, 2007 04:02 AM (2OHpj)
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Ken Hoop only wants us to intervene against Israel. Did anyone else notice that? He may not be a Nazi, but he is obviously got an anti-JEWISH streak. He also seems to buy into the disinformation campaign of Israel's detractors. Why don't we challenge Ken to explain exactly how he would fix the world? What is his 'plan' for Israel? What about Iraq? Iran? Pakistan? China? Saudi Arabia?
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 24, 2007 04:11 AM (2OHpj)
Anti-Semitism is not a new paradigm, it is the oldest slander in the world ginned up to look "progressive." Your sick comment about nefarious Jewish cabals confirms that.
You are a socialist asshole who hates Jews and wants your ideology forced on others. You are a consumate NAZI.
Like all losers, you hate Jews and traditional Americans because they're better than you are. You really hate yourself, and express your self loathing through envy of any group who reminds you of your inferiority. You're a misanthrope and a hopeless prick. You probably take it up the ass too, don't you Adolph?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 24, 2007 05:54 AM (abVz3)
Compare that to Qwyneth Paltrow's verbal flatulations about American's being "less intelligent" than the British society being killed from the inside out by the radical Islamic pig brigades who gleefully use windbags like her to spout their multiculti smokescreen while they sharpen the knives to slit the society's jugular.
Nice work, Denny.
Posted by: Good Lt at December 04, 2006 01:41 AM (D0TMh)
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Unlike the liberal in the White House Miller understands. Too bad he's not President.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at December 04, 2006 07:02 AM (ml59r)
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Rod: That might not be a bad idea. Why can't we run someone like Dennis Miller for Prez. I'd vote for him.
Posted by: Greyrooster at December 04, 2006 08:21 AM (qWbYR)
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The whole establishment is designed to keep people like him out of
office. No matter how much both sides hate each other they come
together on this subject along with the true power in the country...the
media.
Posted by: Randman at December 04, 2006 10:02 AM (Sal3J)
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With the sh*t news about *tache's resignation at the UN today, a BIG thank you to you chaps for finding this piece by Miller.
Sweet.
Posted by: Maximum Moose at December 04, 2006 10:59 AM (/1gdO)
Miller is a lot quicker between the ears than any politician we have ever run. And he has the balls to tell it like it is.
Because of the news media, telling in like it is is normally a death sentence for politicians. Mainstream America apparently doesn't count for anything except paying the bills. If you say Al Sharpton is an asshole. You have just insulted the black caucus. If you say Barney Frank and Mark Foley are freaks. You have just insulted the gay community. If you say the muslim clerics are teaching death. You have just insulted the muslim community. If you refer to Hillary Clinton as the bitch she is. You have just insulted women politicians. On and on. I blame academia for the brainwashing of the American people the last 30 years. In truth, the average white guy in America is a pretty nice person. He contributes more to charity than any other group in the world. He is extremely productiive. He cares about the future of humanity. He supports the government helping other nations. He takes care of his family. He protects those cannot protect themselves. He cares about little doggies and such. He will fight for what is right. However, the media, minority groups and educational institutions make him out to be some greedy monster who spends his entire day focused on how to keep the other guy down. It's bullshit! pure bullshit. If the average white guy was a bad as made out ot be there wouldn't be any minority groups in America or Europe. Ever think of that?
We desperately need someone like Dennis Miller to tell it like it is in a comical but truthful way. Ease the tension.
Posted by: Greyrooster at December 05, 2006 07:40 AM (ezJiI)
What This All Means
You should have every expectation that the MSM and the Dems will try to spin this election as a rejection of "right-wing conservatism" and an embrace of "left-wing liberalism." I'm here to tell ya, folks: whatever this election meant, it DIDN'T mean that--at least, not in the way the MSM and the Dems will mean it when they say it. It didn't, for example, mean a rejection of a limited government or fiscal responsibility. It didn't represent a public embrace of socialism, and it certainly wasn't a referendum on whether we should continue to help the Iraqi people.
I went to a GOP "victory" party last night, and just everyone I talked to fell into one of two groups. The first group (the faithful) was depressed that the pre-election polls were actually on-target. The second group (the disgruntled) had long since resigned themselves to substantial Republican losses and had mixed feelings about those losses. In general, it was either "I can't believe this is really happening" or "Maybe they need to learn a lesson." Even at a collection of the faithful, it wasn't tough at all to find Republicans who'd been disgusted with their own party for years--and weren't at all too shy to talk about it.
You may BE one of the disgruntled Republicans, or you may HATE them, or you may be in the middle. For those of you who hate them, you can hate them all you want. You can think they're assholes, or that they're insane, or that they're high-maintenance bitches. None of that really matters. What matters is that they represent a huge chunk of the Republican base. If the GOP doesn't figure out how to bring these folks back into the GOP fold and give them some candidates to believe in, 2008 will look very ugly.
If you don't know what the lesson to be learned from November 7, 2006 is, it is this: a party can't disregard the interests and concerns of an entire chunk of its own base without paying a heavy price.
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Ragnar: "a party can't disregard the interests and concerns of an entire chunk of its own base without paying a heavy price."
I think you are entirely right.
May I add 2 more things that it might mean? 1. There are alot of conservatives who believe that less government is better government - this "libertarian" arm of the GOP is growing.
2. The country is now more likely to face a nuclear battle against radical islam - making the fight so far pale in comparison.
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at November 08, 2006 02:10 PM (bF+Yg)
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Sure and Dewey beat Truman to become president. Dumbass.
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 08, 2006 02:21 PM (wkRws)
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The Congressional Dems took that lesson to heart. They pandered to the moderate Republican and Democrat voters by posing as moderates themselves.
Every asshole who voted for them deserves what they get.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 08, 2006 02:30 PM (bLPT+)
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Greyrooster: I vote Republican. I was hoping the MSM was wrong once again in their predictions.
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at November 08, 2006 02:31 PM (bF+Yg)
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I will vote for whichever party stands for unintrusive government, limits on national debt, and resasonable national defense. So did I win or lose last night?
Posted by: Gleep! at November 08, 2006 02:31 PM (UHKaK)
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Gleep, define unintrusive and reasonable. And therein lies the rub, huh?
Posted by: Oyster at November 08, 2006 02:48 PM (I+VdL)
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>>>> If you don't know what the lesson to be learned from November 7, 2006 is, it is this: a party can't disregard the interests and concerns of an entire chunk of its own base without paying a heavy price.
Actually, I think he Republican downfall was precisely becasue they pandered too much to what they decided was their base.
For exampled, a big part of the conservative base is made up of evangelical Christians. To gather them, the Republicans took hard lines on stem cell research, gay marriage bans and other highly divisive social issues near and dear to the Christian right.
Whether it was merely lip service or not -- and much of it was -- those positions cost them the Sunday-go-to-church moderates and secular conservatives.
They've alienated other true conservatives to varying degrees with issues surrounding the WoT, the Iraq war, socio-economic policies, etc.
Rather than finding ways to make their base ever larger with good, solid ideas, the Republicans allowed themselves to follow the way of Rove and kept defining their base ever more tightly until finally, they became the ultimate special-interest administration. The electorate just got fed up and you had what you had yesterday.
This is not to say the Democrats don't do the same by working their base. This just goes to show you what happens when you work ONLY for your base.
Posted by: Gleep! at November 08, 2006 02:59 PM (UHKaK)
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Unintriusive means a government that barely intrudes in your life and how you choose to live it. Reasonable means what a reasonable citizen steeped in the American way of life can expect from their government.
Posted by: Gleep! at November 08, 2006 03:01 PM (UHKaK)
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 08, 2006 03:03 PM (wkRws)
10>>>> If you don't know what the lesson to be learned from November 7, 2006 is, it is this: a party can't disregard the interests and concerns of an entire chunk of its own base without paying a heavy price.
Gleep! sed:
Actually, I think he Republican downfall was precisely becasue they pandered too much to what they decided was their base.
You're largely correct, but you write that as if it contradicts what I said originally. It doesn't. If you think it does, read my comment again.
Posted by: The All-Seeing Pirate Ragnar at November 08, 2006 03:09 PM (c/4ax)
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Ragnar, you are correct; I misread who you were referring to as the "base." My bad!
Posted by: Gleep! at November 08, 2006 03:13 PM (UHKaK)
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It also means that alot of Republicans didn't learn the lesson of 1992 w/H. Ross Perot.
Posted by: RepJ at November 08, 2006 03:43 PM (T3Wz2)
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The GOP deserved to lose, and We the People deserve what comes next, because we didn't hold government or the media accountable for their collective treason. Democracy means that the innocent minority must suffer for the sins of the majority who, on the average, have demonstrated that we no longer have a rightful claim to the Liberties entrusted to us. We're screwed, but we've worked for it, so I'll just look forward to that beautiful day when New York, Los Angeles, or DC disappear under a mushroom cloud.
Congratulations; we've proven that we're as stupid as the goatfuckers think we are, and we shall now pay the price.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 08, 2006 04:04 PM (Oew5j)
Posted by: Gleep! at November 08, 2006 04:16 PM (UHKaK)
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The greatest victory is tha the FAITH over FACT crowd were handed their butts last night. Abortion ban - DEFEATED 2 Parental notification bills - DEFEATED Funding for embryonic stem cell research - PASSED. It's hard out there for a Republican these days!!!! SCIENCE may finally triumph.
Posted by: Jenny at November 08, 2006 05:10 PM (3Ah+H)
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Impy's having a bad hair day and his eye twitch has kicked in.
DOOMED! WE'RE ALL DOOMED!
AWMMAGODTHERESATERRORISTRIGHTBEHINDYOU!
Posted by: Chicken Little at November 08, 2006 05:15 PM (v7DMp)
The conservative Christians are exactly who stayed home, you raging ignoramus. You just cant hide your hateful bigotry, can you? You're such an asshole.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 08, 2006 05:46 PM (bLPT+)
According to you, the faith side won and the science side lost. There's nothing scientific about abortion, parental notification, or the notion that embryonic stem cells have led to a cure for anything.
Talk about a fanatic.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 08, 2006 05:52 PM (bLPT+)
Terrorists have been murdering Americans for over 25 years. Only a lying moron could claim that they aren't a threat and that the Dems don't enable them.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 08, 2006 05:54 PM (bLPT+)
The example of the evangelicals was raised merely as an example of identifying what you believe to be your base and addressing their needs to the detriment of other members of your potential electorate. There are other examples that have nothing to do with religion. No bigotry took place and you know it. Hell, even Ragnar agreed with the gist of my comment.
Now, you're right, Bush lost the evangelicals he courted because he did so inconsistently and didn't follow through on his promises, such as funding faith-based initiatives. That doesn't change the fact that instead of making the tent larger, Republicans have kept on finding new ways to chase certain people out--including secular and fiscally conservative Republicans. Far-left Dems do the same. Centrist tend to win out in the long run the majority of the time.
Now, that said, let me say this: how you can engage people who's opinions you differ with on this site is your business. It's a blog and blogs aren't like tea parties or the Welcome Wagon. But you know, you may want to entertain the thought of doing it as an adult rather than a pissed-off teenager. There are plenty of opinions out there and some of them may even (gasp) differ from the great Jeff Bargholz. That doesn't make them morons or raging ignorami.
And I call no one here an asshole except you, because frankly, you act like one. Do what you will.
Posted by: Gleep! at November 08, 2006 07:55 PM (a7sMc)
Fuck me, but your stupid. I'm not a Congressman so I don't have any consituents.
The Republicans tried to appeal to the left, you hopeless moron. That's why they lost.
You wear your anti-Christian envy and bigotry like a kick me sign.
You misunderstood Raggy's story and comment, because you're a fool.
The Republicans lost the Conservative Christians (every Christian on the planet is an Evangelical, you ignoramus,) because they didn't court them. Bush wasn't running for office, retard.
Many centrists voted for the Democrats, but the democrats are about as centrist as the ACLU.
Spare me the priggish routine asshole. The only reason you come here is to troll, and I stomp on trolls. You don't have an opinion. You just regurgitate DNC talking points like a trained parrot.
The only people who hate everyone with a different opinion are leftists like you. purveyors of projection, all.
Christians make up over 90% of the country. That's a lot of people to hate, little man.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 09, 2006 02:22 AM (bLPT+)
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Heroic Dreamer: Post # 2 was not posted by me. Just some coward who is to sissy to use his own name.
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 09, 2006 05:47 AM (dk0ga)
Just some libturd attempting to ruin this blog. Why Rusty doesn't trace him down I don't know. If they continue to get away with commenting under others names perhaps we should all do it. The chaos that follows would be pretty funny. Up to Rusty and group.
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 09, 2006 05:51 AM (dk0ga)
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Gleep! -
Until we replace most of the congress with folks like Sen Tom Coburn (R-OK) we all lost. I say no Elected official should be allowed to raise money in DC. They should do it at home among the people they represent.
Posted by: Ronson LeVau at November 09, 2006 07:55 AM (tBLyx)
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Not priggish; well-mannered and civil - a trait you have yet to master. I leave you to yourself. Yuk.
Good luck with all those SoCal women.
Posted by: Gleep! at November 09, 2006 04:34 PM (UHKaK)
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Ronson - I agree, I think Coburn is the kind of pragmatic politician for which this country screams.
His anti-pork barreling stances and apparent dis-interest in the politics of being a politician are refreshing.
Posted by: Gleep! at November 09, 2006 04:47 PM (UHKaK)
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Gleep : Did you win or lose? Even if I hadn't looked at the results I could have told you that you lost
Posted by: Granite at November 10, 2006 03:34 PM (E7FBk)
I beg to differ with you about the campaign financing.
I would say that as long as campaign finances and money spent are the overwhelming factor in who gets elected, we are royally screwed no matter where the money comes from.
I blame MTV and the 'We don't care who you vote for, or why, or even if you know which candidates died last week, or if you pay attention to what the people you elect do, just go out and vote. Going out and voting is what's important.'
If I were the conspiracy type, I might look at the political leanings of the groups that wanted massive numbers of uninformed voters to go out and vote, and maybe draw conclusions about who they thought the uninformed voter was going to vote for.
Posted by: Granite at November 10, 2006 03:38 PM (E7FBk)
Posted by: Gleep! at November 10, 2006 07:16 PM (a7sMc)
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Bargholz the attack dog: Calm down and stop your adeolescent namecalling. I'm sure you have something to do other than deride, condescend and bully your political opponents...wait, no.
so keep up the good work Bargholz, I guess.
Posted by: John Smith at November 20, 2006 04:03 PM (+/ws4)
Heading Out to Vote...
I won't be voting a straight Republican ticket, but I'll be voting for more R's than really deserve it.
They may not deserve to represent me, but I don't deserve to be represented by lunatics.
I really DO NOT care to be in this same situation again two years from now...
UPDATE: Just got back from voting. Pleasantly surprised to see how many Libertarian Party candidates were on the ballot. Where it counted, I stuck with the GOP, but I voted LP in a number of races, just to send a message.
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Ragnar, When we totally defeat the Democrats, then we can start voting for a 3rd party. That is about to happen in Texas. The only other way is to change the constitution and do our elections like France and other places. Have a multi-party vote and the top two get a run-off election. That would be a quick way to make 3rd parties stronger, but some would say it's that kind of democracy that allowed Hitler to take over Germany.
Posted by: RepJ at November 07, 2006 01:50 PM (L5LRS)
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It is a sign of madness to keep voting for the same party that screws you over again and again.
It is comparable to burning yourself on the stove again and again. Why do you do it?
Posted by: WormSplat at November 07, 2006 02:22 PM (heS+8)
The reason he's voting for the GOP, is because even though they are less than what we want, the other choice is a thousand times worse! At least we have a CHANCE to get things done right with the GOP.
Fortunately I can vote a bit more with my concience in NY state, as I am a registered Conservative party member. I still vote for the GOP candidates, but on the Conservative line.
Posted by: Wearyman at November 07, 2006 02:42 PM (puky3)
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How do you figure the other side is 1000 times worse?
Most of the Democratic candidates are taking moderate approaches toward
domestic and foreign issues. They are stressing more
accountability on the war profiteering in Iraq and taking a harder
stance against illegal immigration than any republican would.
The republican policy has failed. Miserably. Do you always
have to vote Republican even when it will sink this country further in
the toilet?
Posted by: WormSplat at November 07, 2006 03:52 PM (heS+8)
5taking a harder
stance against illegal immigration than any republican would.
LOL. uh huh.
Democrats always campaign towards the right (it's the only way they can win). Then they govern fromt the left. Liberalism requires stealth to survive in America. Hold your nose and vote GOP. Oh, and "war profiteering" is as relevant an issue this election season as my left nut.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 07, 2006 04:03 PM (8e/V4)
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Most of the Democratic candidates are taking moderate approaches toward
domestic and foreign issues.
Yeah..they are running moderates but it is the most far left liberals
who will get the committeships and thus the real power. I consider
being pissed and smiting myself just to teach those repubs a lesson is
a childish act. I just held my nose when I voted.
Posted by: Randman at November 07, 2006 04:07 PM (Sal3J)
7Most of the Democratic candidates are taking moderate approaches toward domestic and foreign issues...
What planet are you living on? Have you not seen the Dem ads demanding that we "pull out of Iraq now?" Is that what you consider a "moderate approach?"
...taking a harder stance against illegal immigration than any republican would.
Name me the Democrat candidates who are advocating "enforcement first." Name me the Dems who are advocating expanded immigration raids and enhanced penalties against employers. Just for reference, here's what the Democrat Party website had to say about immigration policy:
"Bush Fences In Comprehensive Immigration Reform
President Bush this morning will complete his definitive abandonment of comprehensive immigration reform by signing a flawed and politically-driven enforcement only Republican bill that mandates a fence on our southern border, but fails to fund its construction. The Republican Congress, in a political stunt designed to cater to the far right wing base of their party, authorized a border fence 700 miles long along a border that spans more than 2,000 miles, and even then appropriated only a small portion of the billions needed to build that fence."
As expected, the Dems are long on criticism and short on solutions.
Posted by: The All-Seeing Pirate Ragnar at November 07, 2006 04:09 PM (c/4ax)
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As loony as the LP is, they would make a wonderful replacement for the Democratic Party.
Posted by: George guy at November 07, 2006 06:16 PM (eWkFC)
More on voting for what you don't really like....Howie Sez:
Ok, so will we ever see [reform] if they keep control? My worry, as an ordinary schmuck, is that if you don't punish them they will say, "See we got away with it". Next we will be dissapointed again.
On the other hand I feel the Republicans must hold one house. Having the Presidency helps a bit. It's a shame we don't have a very good third choice to whack them over the head with.
Howie's right, as usual. I, for one, am ready and willing to severely punish Hastert, Boehner, and the rest of the SOBs who have gotten us into the predicament. I'm more than ready to slip a metaphorical shiv between their political ribs, and I'm pretty sure I have a lot of company in that sentiment. I'm ready to start that campaign in earnest on Wednesday morning. I think there are a lot of bloggers who are "hanging in" with the GOP team right now because, and only because, of the consequences of Democrat control of one or both houses. If the GOP leadership thinks that our recent silence and support represents some newfound love for, or even acquiescence to, their style of governance, I predict they're going to be very disappointed once the blogger gloves come back off after election day.
Yes, we've bitten our tongues for a while, but we're no friends of the Hastert Republicans. We're temporary allies in a difficult time. Think Churchill and the Soviet Army.
If the GOP holds the House, we need to have a knock-down, drag out fight over the House leadership elections. Any House member who supports the current leadership needs to pay dearly for it.
But that's a fight for then. We have to win this fight to even get to that one.
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Well WVUinMN I would support other republicans in the primaries if we had any run against the incumbents.
Posted by: Prof.Xomox at November 06, 2006 02:27 PM (R2r1P)
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Yeah. I am pissed off, but I'm not stupid. We'll deal with that arrogant Hastert "you can't come into William Jefferson 's capital hill office and INVESTIGATE HIM" after tomorrow. Trust me on this.
Posted by: n.a. palm at November 06, 2006 02:29 PM (qXNHZ)
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Never let "the best" be the enemy of "the good."
Posted by: Bird Dog at November 06, 2006 02:48 PM (XXEg4)
Your LUCKY to have Hastert Republicans in the House. I much prefer them to the McCain/Hagel/Snowe/Graham/Specter version of the US Senate. And if you so dislike the current crop of Republicans controlling the House, put your money were your big mouth is and fund alternative GOP candidates in the PRIMARIES!
Posted by: WVUinMN at November 06, 2006 02:59 PM (UdJCa)
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I'm not too uspset with Hastert over the foley stuff. I direct that at Foley. Sure they could have dupled that hot tater a long time ago. It's the total abandonement of the smaller govt doctrine that bugs me.
Posted by: Howie at November 06, 2006 03:03 PM (D3+20)
I've tried that, and will continue to do so. In every situation so far, I've been opposed by the White House brainiacs who seem to be convinced that conservatives are unelectable in general elections. My time and small money has generally been dwarfed by the huge resources of the party insiders supporting an "electable" RINO against a principled conservative.
IMHO, the fault here lies squarely at the feet of one Karl Rove and his acolytes, who definitely need to be dealt with. But we'll deal with them later.
For now, I'll team up with the unprincipled to defeat the insane.
Posted by: The All-Seeing Pirate Ragnar at November 06, 2006 03:12 PM (c/4ax)
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More republicans will be elected than conventional wisdom (always wrong,) allows. You hear a lot about Repubs losing seats or retainig seats, but you don't hear anything about them gaining seats. This is an idiotic oversight on the part of the pundits.
Here in Nebraska, Repub newcomer Pete Ricketts is going to destroy Dem incumbent Ben Nelson. Ricketts may not be the only upset. I haven't paid any attention to other state elections brcause I don't vote in them, but it would be interesting to hear from those who do.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 06, 2006 03:15 PM (bLPT+)
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Time to stop pontificating and just sit back and watch the numbers roll in, tomorrow.
You'll have plenty of time for weeping and whining, later.
I'm curious to know how Bush and Fox News is going to spin the loss of the House, so that it is not a reflection on Bush's failed policies.
It'll probably have something to do with all of those Democrat felons that weren't purged from the voter rolls, plus all of those illegal immigrants voting Democrat.
Got any more good excuses, that you can think of?
Posted by: PuddleDuck at November 06, 2006 03:53 PM (F+9W9)
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Who else is writing in Osama Bin Laden on their congressman's ballot?
Posted by: tbone at November 06, 2006 04:10 PM (HGqHt)
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Due respect, how do you lump Boehner in with the other guys? He hasn't even been ML for a year and on his watch we've actually seen some movement in the right direction: earmark reform, military tribunals, more on tax cuts, and so on. The guy has never taken an earmark and has presented plans for real budget reform. He's said since January there needs to be big change but he was surrounded by the other guys. This negativity is a little unfounded. If you want to aim that shiv somewhere, aim it at the former rep from TX-22 that really steered this ship for the eight years prior.
Posted by: Amy at November 06, 2006 04:38 PM (AB+nR)
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I didna lump Boehner in. I simply did not buy the if the democrats get elected now you'll never see this or that. Looks like we'll nver see it anyway. I liked his comments except I don't buy the let us pass and we'll be good argument. If you notice he agrees that Republicna party sold out small govt.
Posted by: Howie at November 06, 2006 04:50 PM (D3+20)
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And here, I've been nice today, and y'all Republican true believer kool-aid drinkers wanna go and fuck with me...
OK, Just to make sure we're talking about the same John Boehner, is this the same John Boehner who's been known to hand out checks from lobbyists on the floor of the U.S. House while votes are taking place on government subsidies? Yeah, a real champion for reform ya got there...
Maybe there are two John Boehner's in the U.S. House, but if not, that's the same guy, and that's EXACTLY the kind of unprincipled shenanigans that get THIS John Boehner "lumped in" with the rest of them.
In other words, if a guy who blatantly buys votes on the floor of the U.S. House is our best hope for some reform, we're pretty well FUCKED.
Don't you folks get tired carrying all that water?
At any rate, go vote for the shady-but-sane folks tomorrow. We'll get around to the infighting later--unless the kool-aid drinkers want to mix it up some more...
Posted by: The All-Seeing Pirate Ragnar at November 06, 2006 06:11 PM (c/4ax)
In the 1940s the dems ruled the house. Bush's fault. Friggin commie idiot.
It is true the illegal immigrants, commies, socialists, gays, traitors and blacks in the ghettos will vote democratic. THAT'S THE POINT! They are the democratic party.
Besides, they are not going to win anything. Except for Lieberman. Who will remember their traitorism.
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 06, 2006 11:16 PM (0AdXP)
Time to stop pontificating and register to vote in the 2008 elections. It's too late for you to register for tommorow's.
You'll have plenty of time for weeping and whining, later.
I'm curious to know how Pelosi and her Establisment Media backers are going to spin the inability to gain control of Congress, so that it is not a reflection on the Dems' failed policies.
It'll probably have something to do with all of those soldiers they couldn't prevent voting this time around, or the dead people, pets, wetbacks and felons who were prevented from voting illegally. It was the Diebold machines! Haliburton manufactured them!
Got any more good excuses, that you can think of? You're going to need then after tomorrow.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 07, 2006 02:34 AM (bLPT+)
Thoughts on voting for something you don't really like...
It's no secret that I've had my serious differences with the current round of Republican leadership. I am, after all, the author of "The GOP Can Bite Me," "Our President is an Idiot," and many other thoughtful and insightful rants. The Republican power brokers have gotten themselves drunk on power and influence, grown far too comfortable in their positions and forgotten principles that they once claimed to cherish. Chief among these principles are the apparently forgotten ideas of federalism and limited government. In one area of life after another, the Republican leadership is all too happy to engage in extended discussion of "how should the Federal government fix X?" without ever pausing to consider whether there's a proper Federal role for "fixing X" in the first place.
By most accounts, the current Republican leadership has never met a federal spending program they didn't like. They've been running up our nation's credit cards with abandon at a time when massive entitlement bills are set to come due very soon without any real plan to pay for them. Instead of working to improve our fiscal situation, the Republicans have exacerbated our problems with NEW entitlement programs calculated to buy votes. This is exactly the type of thing Republicans once criticized the Democrats for. These days, they'd have precious little room to talk.
Don't get me wrong, here: I'm not claiming there's no difference between the Democrat and Republican leadership. I am saying that the two are nearly identical in their shared arrogance and their irresponsible enthusiasm for running up debt on our children in order to buy favors for themselves.
In other words, if arrogance and fiscal responsibility were the only issues on the table, there would be very little reason to go to the polls. No matter which party wins, you'll no doubt get a lot of both.
These are not, however, the only issues on the table. There are a whole list of others, and these issues should weigh heavily on your mind as you weigh whether to go to the polls on Tuesday and what to do if you get there. Consider, for example, our nation's immigration policy. At present, the White House and Senate are ready to provide amnesty and voting rights to millions of illegal immigrants. At present, the Republican-led House is the only body standing in the way of the plan. Given that voting rights for new immigrants will be a huge boon for Democrat voting rolls, what do you think a Democrat-controlled House is most likely to do? Consider also the effect on our foreign policy in general and the administration's ability to conclude the Iraq conflict in a reasonable way.
Now, I understand the argument that voting for something you don't like (e.g., the current GOP leadership) will get you more of something you don't like. This is often true. The converse, however, is NOT true--that is, REFUSING to vote for something you don't like is NOT necessarily likely to get you something you DO like. It may get you something DIFFERENT. In this case, it's most likely to get you something you'll like EVEN LESS than what you have now.
I understand very well the other conservatives who are fed up with the arrogance, corruption and irresponsible spending practices of the current GOP leadership. As disappointed as I am with the Republican leadership, I'll be going to the polls on Tuesday and I'll mostly be voting "R." Then again, I have it easy--most of the Republicans I'll be voting for are part of the solution rather than part of the problem.
If you choose not to vote on Tuesday, that's your right, but please make yourself fully aware of what that will very likely mean for us all if enough other voters do the same thing.
Posted by: Howie at November 06, 2006 12:40 PM (D3+20)
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Yes, the Republicans did ride in on that wave and then didn't bother to get in the tube and ride it properly. But then I am a lean government Jacksonian, not a 'small government' conservative.
Posted by: ajacksonian at November 06, 2006 01:10 PM (VLjJI)
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Well we have the same problem our leaders do. Remember the vote for raising minimum wage, but with it they had to vote for a tax break.
We need to create a third party that can adress the issues we need fixed. That will take some doing, won't it? Meanwhile we need to keep working to stop the worst offenders at the polls.
We know who the worst offenders are.
USA all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at November 06, 2006 01:25 PM (2OHpj)
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I'm taking the approach of voting for Republicans at the State level (mostly) here in California and either Dems or Libertarians at the federal level (haven't quite decided).
I'm hoping that divided government will make both parties a bit more serious on the important issues. But perhaps I'm still a bit niave in believing that there are more things that unite us than divide us.
Posted by: KG at November 06, 2006 01:58 PM (AC0TE)
California's state government is a hopeless case, but if enough people vote Democrat at the federal level, it will become a hopeless case too. It's bad enough now, but the Dems would shut down Gitmo, abandon Iraq to the terrorists, wait for terrorists to attack us at home, and then call the police to write after incident reports and blame the victims while the terrorists thumbed their noses at us from their newly granted safety of the Middle East.
A vote for a Libertarian will just disappear, because not enough people support them.
I strongly agree that there are more things that unite us than divide us, but Congress does not reflect the American public at large, due to gerrymandered voting districts, vote pandering, High density blue cities in certain areas, dishonest campaigning, voter apathy, etc.
Any gains made by the Dems will lead to even more intransigence, witch hunts, national weakness, and power grubbing. Quite frankly, they're already insufferable and obnoxious as a minority. As a majority, they would terrorize this nation.
I hope you change your mind about voting Dem.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 06, 2006 03:48 PM (bLPT+)
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Vote for a real man.
Vote for Osama.
Bet you're glad they didn't catch me now!
Posted by: OBL at November 06, 2006 04:19 PM (HGqHt)
If you don't to be confused with the gay loving, America and soldier hating liberal Democrats (the Libtards, for short), you need to, at least, SAY that you are voting, at the federal level, for the party that is going to keep us safe, which is not those Muslim loving, Bush hating, Democrats, who want us to lose the war in Iraq.
And please don't help that San Francisco Democrat, bitch get elected as speaker of the house, by voting for the Democrat running in your district.
The terrorists will be overrunning us, within months, if that PIAPS becomes speaker of the house.
We'll be fighting them over here, because we elected Democrats over here.
Be very afraid....BOO!!!
Posted by: PuddleDuck at November 06, 2006 04:22 PM (F+9W9)
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Mikey, lets hope that most of the illegals vote republican.
If they vote Democrat, instead, then we need to challenge their votes.
Posted by: PuddleDuck at November 06, 2006 04:26 PM (F+9W9)
I'm pretty sure that I've read that hispanic voters (read: many illegals) actually lean more towards the republican party then the democrats - they embrace the strong sense of family values and patriotic themes. That is further aided by Bush's pro-immigrant stance and his record back when he was the gov of Texas - remember, he ran campaign ads where he was speaking spanish.
Posted by: Mike at November 06, 2006 04:28 PM (ZROGq)
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"Vote for a real man.
Vote for Osama.
Bet you're glad they didn't catch me now!
Posted by: OBL"
Osama, buddy, you're safe as long as Bush and the GOP are in power, so sit back, relax, watch a little Fox News and have a beer.
Posted by: PuddleDuck at November 06, 2006 04:29 PM (F+9W9)
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 06, 2006 11:31 PM (0AdXP)
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Wow, matey, I think you just summed up my political thoughts this season (well, these last few years) perfectly. In fact, I thank you for writing them out as I have been far too frustrated to do so.
And never forget, we love you for pieces like "The GOP Can Bite Me". And some of us agree that we're in this same bargain with the devil here.
Posted by: Pim's Ghost at November 07, 2006 12:01 AM (TK5Ak)
The TRUE "Nightmare" Scenario
I'm mad as hell at the GOP, and I have been for years. I've made no secret of my anger and disappointment with what is supposed to be the "conservative" party in this country working overtime to enact a comprehensive agenda of "socialism lite." I'm also quite disappointed in our party's dismal and hamfisted performance in the War Against Being Scared. (Then again, I've gone from being "concerned" in 2001 to "pissed off" in 2006, so perhaps there has been progress.)
Given my own feelings, I can certainly relate to other conservatives and libertarians who are frustrated by and disgusted with the Republican leadership. If I were represented by a RINO, or a member of the current House leadership, I'd probably have a very tough time getting motivated to help out. As it is, I'm fortunate to be represented by some true reformers, and they have my full backing. I don't have to hold my nose to back them, because I really couldn't ask for better representation. If I were living in Denny Hastert's district, or Tom Reynolds' district, I'm sure I'd have a tougher time mustering the energy to care about the fate of either. There is a point that you get to. I'm not there, but I can probably see it from here if I stand on my toes & squint.
Even as angry and frustrated as I am with the party leadership and the GOP as an organization, I'm still cognizant of the fact that there are solid conservatives within the party, and lots of them. I'm also cognizant of the fact that there are few, if any, among the elected Democrats who could even remotely be considered "conservatives." I'd love it if there were more libertarian-minded Republicans, but I suppose you go to war with the party you have, not the party you'd like to have. Given the choice between "crazy/evil" (i.e. Senator Palpatine,) and "stupid/corrupt" (ie., Senator Jar Jar,) I'd still go with the latter.
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I agree with most of your comments. However, you should know better. Even if the democrats take over the house and/or the senate, nothing becomes law without Bush's signature.
Worst case, Bush gets an opportunity to use that veto pen that he never could use with the GOP.
Posted by: tnMtman at October 10, 2006 08:35 PM (f2opT)
Posted by: Good Lt at October 10, 2006 09:16 PM (D0TMh)
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You yourself acts more like a liberal than the commies. Then you say you are mad at the GOP. Bullshit! Nothing but bullshit.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 10, 2006 09:40 PM (xJ3Xm)
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I've met some of the RLC and they're... um... a bit kooky. They seem to have a very weak grasp of libertarian principles and I was thoroughly disappointed in them.
Posted by: alex at October 10, 2006 09:58 PM (3VsxC)
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 10, 2006 10:20 PM (xJ3Xm)
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Take the GOP back from the far-right Christian Conservative element and their intrusive social politics, you'll be amazed at how quickly it'll begin attracting libertarian voters again.
Posted by: Gleep! at October 11, 2006 12:29 AM (w0kL4)
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Yeah, I have to agree with Alex. The RLC doesn't seem to be the vehicle for real reform. A lot of very rational and non-kooky individuals are libertarians. Why do libertarian GROUPS so often attract the kooks?
Posted by: The All-Seeing Pirate Ragnar at October 11, 2006 02:37 AM (Ouu7R)
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thMtman - I should know better about what? I don't get your comment.
Posted by: The All-Seeing Pirate Ragnar at October 11, 2006 02:39 AM (Ouu7R)
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The only way to save the GOP is to purge it of its scumbags like Foley,
its liberals like Bush, and its bumbling, hapless morons like Hastert.
Unfortunately though, men like the Gipper haven't been made for a
while, and the system now ensures that a man like that couldn't get
elected no matter what. Our entire system is corrupt from top to
bottom, and I think a nuke in DC would be the best thing.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 11, 2006 07:03 AM (v3I+x)
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You guys are just buying into the hype. Neither party and yet both parties are corrupt. Whether you worship at the alter of an ass or a pachyderm, you are still a political bitch as long as the party means more than the man or woman.
Still here Rooster. Very busy these days.
For those like Rusty who throw up the commitment to voting straight Dem, go ahead. Nothing will change except the direction of mud slinging. Nothing gets done now, and if the Dems take office, nothing will get done then.
Quit bitching about the politics, and vote on the issues. Check the record for the people you want to vote for. See how they vote, and what the voted for and how many times they missed a vote.
One more thing, if you remove the cost of the two wars, and the Medicare drug program, we would be very close to posting a budget surplus. Clinton and his cronies could appreciate that if they were not so busy trying to pull the country down to their level.
Posted by: SeeMonk at October 11, 2006 07:30 AM (7teJ9)
the "far christian right" is what we used to call traditional christianity. Just about every conservative who calls himself a christian falls under that category. They outnumber by far the Libertarians.
When the Dems take back their party from the militant atheists watch how many moderates your party will begin to attract again.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 11, 2006 09:11 AM (8e/V4)
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The distinction between the "far-right conservative Christians" and other Christians is a good one to keep in mind. "Christians" and "libertarians" are sometimes discussed as if they were completely distinct groups, but I've always taken issue with the idea of a necessary distinction between "Christian" and "libertarian," as if "Christian" and "libertarian" were mutually exclusive. From what I've studied, Christianity is inherently libertarian. There's certainly a tension between the libertarians and those political Christians who want to see the government impose their own religious beliefs on the citizenry. Political Christians who seek federal bans on things because they consider them "non-Christian" do create tension with libertarians. Christians who believe in "live and let live," and believe they should worry about their own morality rather than that of their neighbors are themselves "libertarians," and I know a number of Christians who fit that description quite well.
Posted by: Ragnar, the All-Seeing Pirate at October 11, 2006 10:22 AM (ejR3V)
14the "far christian right" is what we used to call traditional christianity.
Not really, JC. Compare the current crop of "Christians" with Christian movements of the recent past, such as MLK's Southern Christian Leadership Council, and I think you'll note a vast difference in goals, agendas and objectives. The latter strike me as vastly more sincere, even though very political.
Posted by: Gleep! at October 11, 2006 04:21 PM (UHKaK)
15When the Dems take back their party from the militant atheists watch how many moderates your party will begin to attract again.
You are correct -- time for a good purging of extremists in both camps; I think moderates of all political persuasions are finally getting tired of gridlock and fighting for the pure sake of winning, while the business of the peopel pretty much gets ignored.
Posted by: Gleep! at October 11, 2006 04:24 PM (UHKaK)
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"if you remove the cost of the two wars, and the Medicare drug program, we would be very close to posting a budget surplus. Clinton and his cronies could appreciate that if they were not so busy trying to pull the country down to their level"
You are going to have to show some real numbers if you want to make wild accounting claims like that! Bush has grown the gov over 20% not counting war, medicare , etc. and borrowed near 4 trillion from China. I guess it doesn't matter as long as you get that Clinton pot shot in there.
Posted by: tbone at October 11, 2006 04:35 PM (HGqHt)
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Remove the cost of the wars. That is around 100 bil plus the odd spending addition of around 20-30 extra which will be requested, the overall overhead of running a regular force that big which is not part of the war budget, 200,000 personel, pluse equipment and ammo which would have been used in regular exercises, you can figure, 30 bil. We are 130 bil. The deficit is at 240? That leaves 110 bil. What about the money we send to the Paki's, SA, Jordan, Egypt, Israel, Turkey and even Russia? All meant to keep them on our side. All part of the cost of the war. Purely speculative. No less as ethereal than your 4 tril claim which is just stupid.
And yes, I did throw the Clinton shot in because it felt good. What about it?
You will need to show some more evidence of the four Tril if you want to call me out and save some face dude. That is a stupidly big number.
Posted by: SeeMonk at October 11, 2006 07:22 PM (n4VvM)
"Good Cop, Bad Cop"
I'm glad to see some support for Jack Straw across the pond in the face of this latest round of Muslim extortion. Me, I've never cared much for extortion.
We see this extortion racket played out over and over again. Something happens to rile up the "Muslim community." The local Muslim leader, Imam X, may be a bad actor, but he's our guy. He pays lip service to "interfaith dialogue" and whatnot, but he's not really on our side, and he doesn't have our best interests at heart. He's in it for himself, and we all know it. On the other hand, he needs our support to have legitimacy, and his need for our support gives us a certain (though limited) level of influence on his behavior.
We're not particularly thrilled with Imam X, but Imam X assures us that he's the best option we can reasonably expect to get. Imam X has a maniac on a leash, and if anything happens to Imam X, we'll be left to deal with the maniac. Our options are between Imam X and a maniac. Any other leader would be unapologetically acting against our interests. Imam X at least pays lip service to our concerns, and throws us a bone now and then. (Something like the House Republican leadership, but even worse.)
At every turn, Imam X gives us just enough to keep us from completely bailing out on him, but he realizes that the price of our support isn't that high, owing to the fact that we know the alternatives to Imam X are so much worse. We're expected to be grateful for his token efforts, and to happily accept the table scraps he drops to us now and then. In sum, Imam X has us by the "short hairs," and he knows it. He can count on our unwavering support so long as he knows that we're unwilling to plunge his little neighborhood into chaos. Imam X can count on the fact that we're rational actors and his conviction that we'll always accept half a loaf from him in lieu of none. In the short term, capitulation is almost always the rational decision on our part. Accordingly, whatever concerns Imam X may have, the loss of our support isn't high on the list of things that keep him up at night.
Of course, this situation isn't limited to a few Imams in London. From where I sit, the whole lot of self-proclaimed "moderate" Muslim activists, along with our "friends" in the House of Saud and our "friends" running Pakistan, are other examples of "Imam X's" in their respective spheres of influence.
It's just a form of extortion, a variation on the classic "Good Cop, Bad Cop" game and the "protection racket." It's a popular racket, mostly because it works so effectively.
The "moderate" Muslim activists in the West are the most distasteful of the lot, IMHO. At each stage, the game is: "accept this accomodation, or else we'll be replaced by crazies." At each round, the "this" is a little larger piece of flesh than last round. "Censor the Mohammed cartoons, or else." "Get rid of Ayaan Hirsi Ali, or else." "Make the Pope apologize, or else." "Institute Shari'a law, or else." At each step, accomodation is the short-term rational choice.
I wonder: is there a point at which we (the West) are no longer willing to play along with the "Good Cop, Bad Cop" game anymore? Is there a point at which we're willing, in the short term, to be irrational? In other words, is there a point at which we're no longer willing to negotiate over our fundamental principles, even if there is a significant price to pay? Is there a point at which we make our own demands? Is there a point at which we're no longer willing to accept half measures and lukewarm gestures from our supposed "allies?" Is there a point at which we will draw a line beyond which we are unwilling to go, to throw down the gauntlet and invite them to join us as we all descend together into the Hell and chaos that supposedly awaits us?
If there is such a point, where does it lie?
If we can never figure out when we've crossed that point, isn't our subjugation just a question of "when" rather than "if?"
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Exactly. And notice how the "good cop" isn't all that good either. They "condemn" the tactics of the bad cop, but there is no doubt whatsoever that they support his goals.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 10, 2006 02:03 PM (8e/V4)
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Good/Bad cop is a great metaphor for how islam treats the West.
Posted by: alex at October 10, 2006 02:14 PM (UMwMT)
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Just imagine the world in 30-40 years. As Steyn's new book
argues, it will be America (and maybe Australia) against a muslim
Europe/Africa/Asia, just based on demographics alone. The death
of true Christianity (i.e., actually believe that the only way
into heaven is through Jesus) in Europe, coupled with their impending
social welfare crunches, will only accelarate the demise of Europe.
I don't even think it will end if the Islamic countries implode
economically (like a sudden and violent version of the USSR collapse).
We'll just end up with a Somalia scenario in France.
Posted by: wooga at October 10, 2006 03:21 PM (tAB8A)
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Wooga, Britain will rise against them and there will be civil war. Look at British history and the likelihood of the masses getting pissed off. I'm suprised the masses have been so tolerant for so long.
Muslims will only have to commit one or two more cowardly crimes and it will be all on.
Posted by: Jester at October 10, 2006 03:26 PM (TuAMG)
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Jester, I wish I had the same optimism as you regarding Britain. But judging by the bending over
backwards to accomodate disfunctional islamic behaviro in Britain, I
fear that Britain has gone too far down the multicultural drain to ever
recover.
Posted by: wooga at October 10, 2006 04:20 PM (tAB8A)
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Pirate Ragnar The west plus Israel should've stopped playing that game a long time ago. As far as I'm concerned the line that you're talking about was crossed on 9/11/2001. Best /GM
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at October 10, 2006 04:41 PM (vixLB)
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I'm not playing this little game and ensure my elected officials know that, if they want my vote, they had better not play either.
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at October 10, 2006 05:47 PM (3nKvy)
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Wooga, part of what you say is true but muslims are still a small minority of the UK and generally hated in places like Scotland and Wales, were multiculturalism is not as rife. I am optimistic the day will come when they will be severely dealt with in the UK.
Posted by: Jester at October 10, 2006 05:49 PM (TuAMG)
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Jester: What leads you to believe this? I have seen nothing from the
British government that would indicate a turn around.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 10, 2006 09:44 PM (xJ3Xm)
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Jester may have a point, but if the British people do rise up, rest
assured that the government will come down on them with unimaginable
force, and will make the "troubles" in Northern Ireland look like a
family quarrell by comparison.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 11, 2006 07:07 AM (v3I+x)
A Few Predictions...
I haven't tuned up my Magic Eight Ball in a while, so let's see if the thing still works worth a damn:
Prediction #1 : The next two days will bring more questions than answers as to whether the North Korean explosion was actually a nuclear detonation. By the end of this week, there will be some level of consensus one way or the other. If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on "not nuclear," but not a lot of money. I'm not sure if that makes me an optimist or a pessimist. I also predict that those who question whether the North Koreans are telling the truth will (ironically) be denounced as "commie apologists" or some such. If it was a fake, the rest of us can only ask : WTF??
Prediction #2 : Although the North Korean explosion will dominate the news for a few days, the next week will bring more Democrat-sourced revelations about what the House leadership knew about Mark Foley's habits in the 1995-2005 time frame. This will give the news media an excuse to move the Foley story back to the front pages, which is, of course, what they will do--particularly if the North Korean "nuclear" detonation turns out to have been a fake.
Prediction #3 : The hit for Masturgate has mostly been taken by the GOP polling numbers. Further revelations about the leadership's earlier knowledge of Foley's behavior will have little additional effect on Republican numbers going forward UNLESS there is concrete evidence directly contradicting Hastert's declaration of innocence at his press conference last week. The public has gotten accustomed to politicians revising their stories a few times after a scandal breaks, but there's a limit. It essentially comes down to whether or not there's any concrete evidence that Hastert had knowledge of "vile" (i.e., sexually explicit) messages to underage pages prior to their recent publication. Only time will tell. I predict more uncomfortable revelations between now and next week, but no "smoking gun."
OK, that's what my Magic Eight Ball's telling me. Like I said, only time will tell if the thing still works. If it's off, it's definitely going back to the shop for a tune-up...
Posted by: n.a. palm at October 09, 2006 06:07 PM (jLW9/)
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So, the Nork "nuke" onviously IS a fake? There are obviously MORE Foley revelations coming out this week? The new Foley revelations obviously WON'T affect GOP polling numbers? Cool. The eight ball still works.
Posted by: The All-Seeing Pirate Ragnar at October 09, 2006 07:07 PM (c/4ax)
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Are the new revelations about Foley, or about the reliability and credibility of the information and the reliability and crdeibility of the source/sources, as well as the manner and timing of it's realease?
Posted by: witch at October 09, 2006 07:17 PM (4iGbH)
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Revelations about the manner in which the Dems have used this info are interesting in an academic sense, but they don't appear to have legs. I know some folks don't like to hear that, but it's just the truth. These stories move across the blogosphere, but they're not catching on in the MSM, and they're not going to. The reason for this is as follows: people EXPECT political opertives to conjure up "dirty tricks" and "October Surprises." That is what they do. That is their job. "In other news, a dog bit the postman today and several thousand airplanes took off and landed without incident." Dirty tricks have been employed by American politicians all the way back to the earliest days of the Republic. An election without any dirty tricks? Now THAT would be newsworthy. Trust me, folks: that dog's just not gonna hunt this time around. Wishing and hoping it catches on is not gonna make it so.
OK, I'm done. Fire away.
Posted by: The All-Seeing Pirate Ragnar at October 09, 2006 08:15 PM (BjOjj)
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According to Oliver North on FOX this evening, the North Koreans are planning the second 'test' thursday, so this story may have more legs this week than you have anticipated.
I would 'like' to believe that Sunday's blast was conventional in nature however I am leaning (falling) toward the camp that this was the real thing.
The problem I see with the math here though is this. If we are to believe that NK only has enough plutonium to produce 4-6 bombs as we are being told, would they use 25-50% of thier inventory on tests?
The numbers may be off and in the final analysis just may add up to the sum of all fears.
This will be an interesting week however it plays out.
Bily
Posted by: Billy at October 09, 2006 08:58 PM (nlgQw)
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Was it a nuke? I don't know. But I've heard that
seismologists say it had the signature of a small nuke. I'm no
seismologist. But that chubby little dog eater needs his ass
kicked for deliberately trying to provoke and cause fear for those
around him. While he's playing his stupid little games, his
citizens are eating grass trying to stave off death by starvation.
Posted by: Oyster at October 10, 2006 07:18 AM (YudAC)
What Would it Take?
My irritation with the current GOP leadership is a worse kept secret than Mark Foley's wierd sexual proclivities. And, like any other rational conservative/libertarian, my willingness to criticize the GOP leadership is tempered by the knowledge that the Democrats (a/k/a "The Evil Party") would almost certainly make a mess of things in the House of Representatives if they took control from the Republicans (a/k/a "The Stupid Party"). God forbid they take the Senate as well. That would be very bad.
How bad?
Well, try to imagine every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light and all life as we know it ceasing to exist.
Well, okay, maybe not that bad, but pretty bad, nonetheless.
Even so, I think each of us needs to ask himself how far he is willing to carry water to save Dennis Hastert. What revelation would be too much? I'd imagine we'd all be willing to bail on Hastert if, for example, a cop found a dead hooker in the back seat of Hastert's car.
I'm pretty sure there is a point, for each of us, somewhere on the continuum between "completely ignorant of any problem" on the one end, and "no, officer, I do not have a valid permit for that dead hooker," at which each of us would be willing to withdraw support for Hastert.
For me, that point lies somewhere around "Well, we kinda knew Mark Foley had a habit of getting 'wierd-ish' with the young boys, but we were busy with other stuff at the time, and we hoped it would just go away." Yes, that's a dramatization, but I predict the facts will ultimately bear it out. (I'm sure I'll get beaten up for that one.)
If (<<< note the word "if") Dennis Hastert knew that Mark Foley had a tendency toward the wierdness (a la Jacko) with the young boys, and Hastert took no action to address the problem, that says an awful lot to me about the man's character and the quality of his leadership. Then again, it's not as if we NEEDED more evidence of the quality of Hastert's leadership. We've already had eight years to observe the man in action. This is only the latest chapter in a long story. At which point does one say "enough is enough?"
Some are characterizing opposition to the current leadership as "spineless," and asserted that Hastert's critics are "pissing themselves" in fear, and need some Midol. Think this through, folks. We're opposing the leadership and what presently appears to be the majority of the Party... and yet we're the ones who are "spineless?" We're unwilling to accept the position that a Democrat-controlled House would not be exactly the same thing as the coming of the Apocalypse, and yet we're the ones who are "terrified" and "pissing" ourselves?
I do not think those words mean what you think they mean.
The moment any actual concrete evidence (as opposed to rumors, innuendo and speculation, which is all we have at this point) surfaces proving that Hastert knew but chose not to do anything, His Majesty will throw Dennis under the friggin’ bus so bloody fast that the theory of relativity may come into play.
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"Well, try to imagine every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light and all life as we know it ceasing to exist."
Actually, the quote is:
"Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light."
Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon Ragnar.
;-)
Posted by: Good Lt at October 05, 2006 11:30 AM (lvyez)
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I have this dream, every so often, that every incumbent running for reelection loses - either in the primary or the general (I know, we're at a point where there is only one option). Every time the thought crosses my mind, I smile.
And no, I don't really care, much anyway, which party controls the House or the Senate. Neither seems all that interested in winning, let alone winning the right way.
Posted by: KG at October 05, 2006 11:51 AM (AC0TE)
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I'm much more concerned with the War on Terror than I am with this latest October Surprise. For that reason, I actually am concerned about Democratic control of the House and Senate. That's because Dems have made their intentions very clear: attempted impeachment of Bush and endless investigations are the least of it. The real damage will come with suspension of interrogations of captured al Qaeda, suspension of NSA surveillance programs, and worst of all, return to the pre-9/11 mentality of treating terrorism as a criminal matter, to be referred, no doubt, to the local police.
Forgive me for not sharing your-oh-so-fashionable cynicism, but one party has proved they're serious in protecting this country; the other has proved the opposite.
Posted by: Good Lt at October 05, 2006 12:30 PM (lvyez)
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There is always a cleaning bill to be paid when a house is kept dirty. What counts is the verifiable actions Hastert took when he got word Foley was a potential perv. It appears he can't verify any action. Just as Foley thought he was untouchable, so too it appears did Hastert which now can really hurt the GOP and most likely will. I bet there isn't one shred of evidence that Hastert even made any inquiries, let alone any action. If the Dems prevail, we can't cry.
Posted by: goesh at October 05, 2006 12:36 PM (1w6Ud)
There is nothing we know Hastert was advised of which would have allowed any significant action under House rules. Fordham is attempting to cover his own butt after carrying water for Foley for years.
Is Hastert weak and ineffectual? You betcha! And we more or less knew that going in, didn't we? He was never supposed to be more than a caretaker-compromise Speaker after the fall of Gingrich; the matter of succession just didn't get resolved as it should have, and he settled in for the longest service of any GOP Speaker.
We can get rid of him as soon as another candidate builds enough support, BUT to throw him to Democratic wolves five weeks before an election would be the worst possible way to do it. The nation would suffer greatly if Democrats are allowed any grip on power during these times of war.
Sheath the long knives for a few weeks, win the damned election, and then dump Hastert. Never throw red meat to the moonbats.
Posted by: Jim Addison at October 05, 2006 01:30 PM (+5cfd)
All this talk about "accountability" and "protecting minors" from "known offenders" is just traitor talk for Democrat appeasement of the Islamo-fascist socialist liberal threat.
Posted by: Rhyleh at October 05, 2006 02:14 PM (Q+ifs)
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What evidence do you have that democratic controlled congress would be such a terrible thing beyond mere speculation?
Dont you cretins know what checks and balances mean? That the
root of the US's problems occur when one party controls every branch of
goverment?
Think beyond your reptilian brainstem for once and see what a freaking
mess our country is in because of brilliant republican
leadership. What have they accomplished in these last 6 years
beyond a back breaking war, failed negotiations with Korea, failed
domestic policies, corruption, attacks on civil liberties and privacy
and now pedophilia?
The catholic church has a better record than your piggish republican leaders.
Posted by: WormSplat at October 05, 2006 04:55 PM (heS+8)
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Bluto sez: Forgive me for not sharing your-oh-so-fashionable cynicism, but one
party has proved they're serious in protecting this country; the other
has proved the opposite.
Gleep! sez: Now if only the "one party that's serious" could give us unwashed masses even the slightest indication they were up to the task. But alas, witness the continually failing record on display, most recently by the NIE revelations that we are actually LESS safe now than we were on September 12, 2001.
Posted by: Gleep! at October 05, 2006 06:07 PM (RqYFa)
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Those NIE reports were forged by Democrats! You're a traitor! Never forget 9/11!
Posted by: Rhyleh at October 05, 2006 07:43 PM (Q+ifs)
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Oh, also add to that House Armed Services Chair John Warner (R) just returned from Iraq ... he calls the situation "far worse than several months ago — which wasn't good." Another traitor, I suppose. Looks like they'r everywhere, tinfoil hat.
Posted by: Gleep! at October 05, 2006 09:28 PM (RqYFa)
Posted by: Gleep! at October 06, 2006 08:29 AM (UHKaK)
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I would like to see a new option or choice when voting. In addition to the canidates running for elective office I would like to see as a choice.
Making that selection would state that in that race for elective office I have chosen to exercise my right of franchise and decided that none of the selections offered are worthy to occupy that position of elective office. (which would be truly interesting if the incumbent was running unopposed for example)
If gets more votes than the next contender, or even the sole person running for that office then that election must be held again within 30 days and in that re-election anyone who was on the ballot and 'defeated' by would be ineligible to be on the ballot of the new election.
Certain safeguards would have to be enacted. Changing your legal name to None of the Above for example would be ruled out. But it would still be an interesting commentary about the political system and fun to watch as the various campaigns tried to nominate or bring out a new candidate in the short period of time before the new election.
And it just might get folks out to bother to vote.
Posted by: Mike Boelter at October 06, 2006 09:43 AM (MQCR1)
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I have a picture of the USS Cole sitting in the fleet dockyard in Newport News (from several years ago), after its return to active service. I have to admit that it made me tearful to see it back.
God Bless 'em!
Posted by: old_dawg at October 04, 2006 09:10 AM (mvlLy)
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at October 04, 2006 11:11 AM (vixLB)
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Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 ...
Were they part of a massive spy ring which shadowed the 9/11 hijackers and knew that al-Qaeda planned a devastating terrorist attack on the USA? Neil Mackay investigates
THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes.
Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis – and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA.
Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause.
http://ww1.sundayherald.com/37707
Posted by: Greg at October 04, 2006 11:35 AM (/+dAV)
November 8, 2006 : The Nightmare Begins?
I've noticed a lot of the temper tantrums of yesterday have died down. A lot of bloggers have had their proverbial "make-up sex" and are ready to close ranks with the GOP. Hugh Hewitt appears ready to take a bullet for Dennis Hastert. Maybe they have a point. After all, without the Republicans running the House over the last six years, we never would have gotten all those great conservative programs passed that we've all come to know and love. I'm sure you all know which programs I'm talking about. So, there are those. Two years without the Republicans in charge of the House would mean going two years without... well, going without more good stuff, I'm sure. Will the Republic survive? Difficult to see. Always changing is the future. For those who decry GOP spending discipline, I think it bears noting that some theological physicists have theorized that the massive geyser of pork gushing out of the top of the U.S. Capitol may be the only thing keeping the radical Muslims from taking it over by force and imposing Shari'a law on the entire District of Columbia.
Now, on top of the fact that we'd have to go two years without any fresh new Republican goodness bubbling up out of the GOP Fountain of Pork(tm), we'd have to endure two years of Democrat bills moving through the House all the way to the Senate. That's pretty scary, if you think about it. If you don't watch out, a little ol' bill can get out and become a LAW. Suppose Speaker Pelosi passes the "Save the Children Act of 2007." Doesn't matter what it's about, really. Any bill tagged with a euphemism like that is almost certainly some scary shizzle cooked up by some commie hippies in San Francisco. Probably bans all guns, swimming pools, nuclear power, fast food, heterosexual sex and competitive sports in one fell swoop. So, let's say this bill makes it through Madame Pelosi's House of Horrors(tm) and lands over on Dr. Frist's desk. Suppose Frist's too busy negotiating with the Taliban to pay attention to what the bill says, and he and 59 other senators, worked up in a fit of somnambulance, accidentally sign off on the damn thing. So then, it goes up to George Bush, and we know he doesn't veto ANYTHING unless it relates to foreign control of U.S. ports. So, of course, he signs the damn thing, and the "Save the Children Act of 2007" becomes law, forcing us all to be uncoordinated, skinny, horny, defenseless hippies living in the dark.
If that thought doesn't just scare the BEJEEZABUB out of you, well... you're probably thinking with a clear head.
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If the Dems get power this year....You can bet your house that they will keep it for more than two years....!
Posted by: HadaAbeche at October 03, 2006 09:52 PM (tzK7y)
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If the Dems get power this year....You can bet your house that they will keep it for more than two years....!
Posted by: HadaAbeche at October 03, 2006 09:53 PM (tzK7y)
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The sarcasm just drips! Check out incumbent success rates before you hope for Republican defeats, it does have long term consequences.
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at October 03, 2006 09:55 PM (3nKvy)
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I'm sick of this "I'm-going-to-take-my-football-and-go-home" bullshit. We have a war to win. The Dems have clearly telegraphed their intention to retreat to our December 6, 1941 borders. After impeaching the President, of course. That'll show the Islamists that we're serious.
And I'm also sick of all the pundits, who have neither experience nor expertise in security, talking about the Dubai Ports deal. That was another useless tantrum in the blogosphere that did exactly zero for national security.
The GOP Can Bite Me
Just last week, I was thinking how it'd been awhile since the GOP had fucked up anything really seriously.
I suppose I was hoping they'd come to their collective senses. I was thinking perhaps they didn't deserve to get wiped out in November.
Now, we find out about this disgusting freak Mark Foley. Now, any group has a few bad apples, but from what I'm seeing so far, Foley's lecherous behavior had been an "open secret" in the Capitol for some time. Anyone in authority who looked the other way on this one deserves to lose his or her position. I'm 100% with Michelle on this one. I really don't care if Foley's emails were doctored and "sexed up" after the fact. I don't care if the Dems have done the same thing in the past. As unfortunate as these facts may be, they take nothing whatsoever from the culpability of Mark Foley and any in the GOP leadership who were aware of his bullshit. Heads should roll, and they should roll now.
Now, on top of this Foley debacle, we have Bill Frist openly advocating bringing the Taliban back into the Afghani government. Dr. Rusty already said everything I have to say on Frist and the Taliban. And on Rumsfeld and Bush, for that matter.
No one knows whether the GOP will retain control of the House and Senate in November, but if they lose, I won't be shedding a single fucking tear for them. For the nation, perhaps, but not for them. Yes, the Dems would almost certainly take over and build a bizarre, fucked-up circus of inanity in a space that once housed honorable assemblies of reasoned statesmen. Yes, the Dems would almost certainly create a royal mess of things as they retake and clumsily grasp the slippery reins of power. And, yes they will almost certainly spend the next two years disproving the already dubious notion that they couldn't be worse than the Republicans.
Even if all that comes to pass, and the rest of us are forced to stand by and watch as perhaps an entire branch of the government of the last, best hope for mankind descends into a fit of complete and total lunacy for a season, I will at least find solace in the fact that I wasn't complicit in it.
On top of that, the jokes will pretty much write themselves.
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Frist hasn't been worth a damn since he got the job. Were the Republicans not so powerful, he would have forced out long ago. However, I think that he has managed to orchestrate his own demise with his latest remark.
As for Foley.. he's gotta go. AND anybody who knew about it and wasn't smart enough to dump him. I suspect that nobody knew or they'd have dumped him long before election season. Still it's the Democratic October surprise.
And from the Republicans, we get a 30 year old video of John Murtha.
Fun, stuff, but I think that the Republicans lose conrol of the house, even if I don't stay home.
Posted by: Lokki at October 02, 2006 08:49 PM (wsIiu)
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Only two reasons left to vote Republican. Actually one reason, two words: Nancy Pelosi.
Posted by: Rusty at October 02, 2006 09:01 PM (JQjhA)
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I think Malkin is just freaked. Me, I'm not as outraged by the semblance of an aspiration to pederasty as as I am by a nuclear device going off in a major western city. Sorry about that. Call me corrupt, jaded, morally compromised, whatever.
Also, I think the impression that his actions were an "open secret" is probably just your typical Cap Hill crowd trying to seem "in the know". The Dems are ginning this up a lot, because it's sort of their big opportunity. Sure, if people were involved in a cover-up lets get rid of them... but let's also calm down a little and weigh the evidence. A lot of the hysteria is apparently caused by the fact that most people don't know the difference between an email and an instant message. It's all pretty much electronic magic to them anyway.
And if the Dems take over, we'll make lemonade...
Posted by: Demosophist at October 02, 2006 09:20 PM (hSo4/)
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"Me, I'm not as outraged by the semblance of an aspiration to pederasty
as as I am by a nuclear device going off in a major western city. Sorry
about that. Call me corrupt, jaded, morally compromised, whatever.
"
Have to agree here.
Posted by: Good Lt at October 02, 2006 09:20 PM (lvyez)
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You know what? At least I have a sense of what the democrats stand for. I might disagree with them on a great deal of things but at least I know where they are coming from. Can anyone look me in the eye and say the Republicans are for national security (borders? lack of control in Iraq...on and on), a smaller government (oh really?), less spending (bawhaha ha ha choke gasp tears) or anything else they have run on in the past 10 years? It is time for all true conservatives to send a strong message to the Republican party. Vote them out. Now anytime I can vote a third party I will, but if I have to, I will vote for a Democrat. I can not stand by while this sham of government continues.
Posted by: the bAlter dirL at October 02, 2006 09:34 PM (wWnJi)
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Congress can also bite me. Especially the Republicans.
But especially the Democrats.
Posted by: Good Lt at October 02, 2006 09:37 PM (lvyez)
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Screw the queer from Florida. He is an irrelevant piss-ant and is in big trouble.
Foley's pedophilia won't help the Democrats, and it won't hurt the Republicans.
The danger is that apathetic Republicans will stay home on election day and allow Nancy Pelosi's plastic surgery enhanced face become speaker.
You are mad because of a pedophile who doesn't even represent the party? You are mad because Hastert and Frist spend too much money and don't stick it to the Mexicans bad enough?
Geezus, don't allow your anger to enable a party bent on avenging Billary's impeachment.
Posted by: Darth Vag at October 02, 2006 09:53 PM (HSkSw)
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Why are so many blogs getting lathered up over another D.C sex scandal? This one has so far been purely imaginary so far. Not like ones of the past. Where nothing happened worse than a resignation. Sorry, worse, much worse has happened in D.C, then this guy's sick fanatasies.
Posted by: whocares at October 02, 2006 10:15 PM (hGibF)
Posted by: Gleep! at October 02, 2006 11:16 PM (RqYFa)
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Time for "We The People" to get off our butts and clean house. I don't care if we elect a Democrat, Republican or Martian. I want my country safe from attack, our borders secure, our political system cleaned up. That'll do......for starters! And don't feed me crap about having to be realistic and the need to compromise in the "real" world. That sort of garbage is part of the problem. Time to remember who we are and take back the effing country.
Posted by: Subvet at October 02, 2006 11:41 PM (DNVxw)
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Funny how some people bitching about President Bush and the Republicans not following the "conservative agenda" are talking about voting for Democrats. Makes sense to me!
Posted by: pivalleygirl at October 03, 2006 01:27 AM (G8qYZ)
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I certainly don't plan to vote or volunteer for any Dems this election. I'm blessed to have some pretty decent representation in Washington. My present feelings for the GOP as a whole don't mean I won't be volunteering any time and giving any money to individual candidates I agree with who happen to belong to the GOP. There are some very good GOP representatives in Washington. If you're fortunate enough to have a solid conservative representative representing you, I encourage you to do what you can to keep that individual in office. At the same time, I won't be giving any money to the Party itself anytime soon. In fact, my days of giving to the Party may be over for good.
As I said before, I won't be shedding any tears for the GOP politicians in D.C. if they manage to lose control of the House or Senate this election. The nation? Yes. The politicians? No.
Posted by: The All-Seeing Pirate Ragnar at October 03, 2006 04:21 AM (X/ebd)
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Foley makes Newt look like a boy scout. I don't blame anyone for Foley except Foley. I have good reps in Govt and would like to see them advance in the power structure. No matter how hard we try dirt bags like Foley will slip through. But, if the Dems take control of one or both houses, it will only last for a couple of years. Nothing will get done during this time so there is nothing to worry about.
Well we could have a few things to worry about.
Posted by: SeeMonk at October 03, 2006 07:47 AM (7teJ9)
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The danger is that apathetic Republicans will stay home on election day
and allow Nancy Pelosi's plastic surgery enhanced face become speaker.
I think I'll be laughing at that one for awhile ...
Posted by: Sharm at October 03, 2006 08:02 AM (G0B8N)
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Yep biggest political fuckup in a long time. I feel bad for Republican voters. Hell I feel bad for all American citizens. The politicians suck. Next it will be the Democratic voters turn to have their officials let them down. We need to hang a few to get the rests attention.
Posted by: Howie at October 03, 2006 09:17 AM (YdcZ0)