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Did anyone catch this post by Kos cautioning the salivating leftwingnut hordes not to start popping the champange just quite yet? He sounds less-than-thrilled with the momentum he no doubt thought the Donks would gain with Foleygate:

I'm getting a little nervous with people thinking we have any race this fall in the bag. While things look great for us right now, the election isn't right now. And if Republicans can do anything, it's close the deal. And quite frankly, we're not a sure thing anywhere.

We've got to pick up six seats for a majority, seven if we want to avoid a potential Lieberman blackmail situation (if he wins his race). We have to hold all of our own endangered seats (looking solid in MN, okay in MD, and iffy in NJ). Then, in the Republican-held competitive races left -- MO, MT, OH, PA, RI, TN, and VA -- all but one feature incumbents, always the hardest races to win. Incumbents rarely, rarely lose.

Read it all. If you're feeling saucy, sludge through the comments.

Cross-posted at Mein BlogoVault.

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According to this YouTuber, there's a media conspiracy going on to unfairly portray Muslims as violent:

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"Wonkette", once written by a woman obssessed with anal sex, but now a creepy online transvestite freak show, has been badly burned by one of its sources.

Wonkette bit big on a photo-shopped picture supposedly showing Michelle Malkin in a bikini in 1992. The shemales running Wonkette then apparently encouraged Wonkette affiliate Gawker to run the faux photo as well, some seven hours after Malkin informed them that the photo had been altered. Lord knows why they had to be notified; a reasonably savvy junior high school kid would have noticed the out-of-scale head at first glance.

Wonkette pwned here.

Gawker pwned here.

Worse for both blogs, neither backed off after Michelle discovered that the photo was stolen from a woman's webshots account.

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Abu Izzadeen has started a blog. Of course he won’t allow anonymous comments but if you have a blogger ID stop in and express yourself. Oh yeah Abu is a terrorist supporting scumbag who laughed at the victims of the 9/11 and 7/7 London bombings.

From his Wikepedia entry:Abu Izzadeen has described the 7/7 suicide bombers in London as "completely praiseworthy". [2]

On the eve of the anniversary of the 7/7 attacks in London he was filmed preaching to a group of Muslims in Birmingham (UK) mocking and laughing at the victims of 9/11 and threatening further terror attacks in the UK. [3]

He has openly admitted that he wishes to die as a suicide bomber. [4]

Updated now with even more nuttyness. His next post makes me proud of my blogging and that says a lot.

you may have seen me in the press recently or on international television, or you may have heard me on the radio here in the UK. i am a true Muslim and want to show you that Allah is with me. i will never be arrested. i will never be jailed. i will never succumb to the kuffar who threaten me here in the UK, which is Allah's land. i am invincible because Almighty Allah wishes me to be invincible.

i have removed to the origonal welcome post as some kaffar make discusting comments[that's us ;)]. you now have to register like on the forum and should now be moderated hopefully

I am going to be greater than jesus.

Update II. Fake Fake Fake. Party over! It was fun while it lasted.

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The devil is in the details, or so I have always heard, so when one of Dean Esmay's fillins gave a list of fatwas against terrorism as evidence that Muslims are against terorrorism, I figured Ali had at least bothered to read them. She hasn't.

Of course, her larger point is well taken--sharia is useless. Indeed it is. More than useless I'd call it. How about evil? I do not use the term evil lightly here. I believe any system of law that takes away certain inherent liberties is evil. Right up there at the top of that list would be the right to choose one's own religion. But useless will do for now.

The second point--that fatwas are useless--is also well taken, if not completely wrong. Fatwas are very useful because religious authority is claimed by those who do evil. Bin Laden issued a fatwa against America before 9/11 for the precise reason that he knew that people seek moral justification for their acts.

Last, let's get to these 'fatwas against terroror'.

Since I don't have time to refute all of the fatwas, we'll just start from the top of the first link provided and go down from there.

But before we do, can we agree that condemning 9/11 is not the same as condemning terrorism? One may condemn a particular act of terrorism without condemning terrorist tactics in general.

Also, can we agree that one may condemn terror in general but redefine 'terrorism' in such a way as to make the condemnation meaningless? Such is the case in dozens of reported 'condemnations' by mainstream Muslim leaders who, in their condemnation, qualify their remarks by making sure the reader understands that killing Zionists is not really terrorism.

Last, one may be against 'terrorism', but be guilty of a number of equally great sins. Terror is a tactic. One may be against the tactics used by al Qaeda, but be for the goals of al Qaeda. Okay, so you condemn using airplanes as a missile---do you also condemn stoning women to death for alleging rape?

The list linked to at Dean's World is one that has been widely circulated and popularized by the MAS and CAIR. You can actually find the same list posted in the comments section of several websites.

The entirety of the first 'fatwa against terrorism is no longer available in English on the web. The first signator is Mustafa Mashhur, head of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt at the time of the 9/11 attacks. The official stance of the Muslim Brotherhood is the deportation of Jews of European ancestry out of Palestine. But don't worry, the Muslim Brotherhood wants to remove the Zionist entity peacefully, and ethnically cleanse Palestine with the help of the Europeans who would take the Jews back.

The next signator is Qazi Hussain Ahmed, the head of Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan. Besides condemning the Pope last week, the most notorious action of Jamaat in recent weeks has been its succesful campaign against the Musharraf effort to overturn the Hudood laws. The Hudood laws in Pakistan require four male witnesses to rape. Women who accuse men of raping them without four male witnesses are subject to the death penalty.

Qazi also openly supports Hamas and Hezbollah, both international terrorist organizations.

The most ironical of all the signators (40 we are told, but only 7 are named) is that of the Shiekh Ahmad Yassin, the founder of Hamas. Yes, that Hamas.

So, as evidence that Muslim religious leaders are against terrorism, we are given a fatwa issued by the head of a terrorist organization? Irony. True irony. And not the Alanis Morissette kind either.

Let's move on to the second 'fatwa against terror'. You can read all of it here.

It is not actually a fatwa against terror, but one which allows Muslims to serve in the military. The relevant part is that Muslims are allowed to fight against 'the real' perpertrators of 9/11. You know, the real ones. Wink wink, nudge nudge.

You may know the man behind the fatwa from his website Islam Online. Here is the man often cited as the most influential 'moderate' Muslim in the world:

An influential Sunni Muslim cleric who once condoned attacks on U.S. civilians in Iraq has issued a religious edict saying it is permissible under Islam to kidnap in wartime - but not to kill the hostages.

Let's go to fatwa #3, signed by the highest religious authority in the Sunni Muslim world, Sheikh of Al-Azhar, Muhammad Sayyid Al-Tantawi. This is the same man that routinely describes Jews as "the enemies of Allah, sons of pigs and apes." He's a man who believes that during the Islamic Golden Age, "Jews were forced to wear a shoulder patch with a picture of a monkey and Christians had to wear a patch with a picture of a pig. These images had to be affixed to the doors of their respective homes."

Some Golden Age you got there al Tantawi.

And although al Tantawi has been widely reported as issuing a fatwa against suicide bombing in Israel, he did take backs, saying that those that kill Israeli women and children are martyrs worthy of praise.

Shall I go on? Frankly, I just don't have the time.

The larger point being that even so-called moderate Muslim leaders--the ones which liberal Muslims often go out of their way to cite as examples that Islam is just like any other religion--cannot condemn terrorism without either redefining terror or defending the ends of the terrorists if not their means.

Some religion of peace you got there.

This says nothing on whether Islam is inherently violent, but it goes a long way in understanding why so much violence comes out of the Islamic world today.

When authority figures justify acts of violence as a religious duty, there is no doubt that the faithful will follow.

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The First Amendment remains intact, despite the Democrats' legal eagles.

The Jawa Report has also intercepted a super-sekret email from an anonymous high-level Kos Administration operative:

Updates will be added as they come in. Don't be fooled, little ones. The Clinton legacy America is still in danger of complete and utter destruction from the GOP/Rove attack machine as long as ABC is broadcasting this TV show, so that may change. We'll will be remembered as heroes if we survive these broadcasts (once ABC's licenses get pulled). Have faith, commrades.

I can hear the screams of my oppressed leftwing compatriots from my open window, crying tears for truthiness to emerge through the veil of the long, dark night of BuchCo fascism. A dark day for the United States. We'll survive this unforgivable injustice. Somehow.

-end transmission-

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Let's compare the Book of Joshua

to

The holly quoran.

You are absolutely right, Ralph Peters, the Book of Joshua is violent. What you failed to acknowledge is that in that book of the Bible, the Hebrews actually get defeated at one point.

Or, as you leftards like them, the Jooooooooooooosssssss.

We don't take "selected passages" from the holly quoran, like you take from the Bible, we take it all in. The Koran, the Sunnah and Hadith.

We also don't advocate killing every Muslim man, woman, and child.

We don't have to. The people who are the true believers of Mohammed's prophecies are doing that quite well on their own.

I thought I would be more pissed after watching United 93 but I was wrong. Thanks to guys like Ralph, I realized that moral equivalence soothes the soul.

Forgive me, Allah, I humbly apologize for what happened at Jericho as described in the Book of Joshua. Please stop sending people to drop airplanes out the sky.

Pretty please?

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We at the Jawa Report are lucky to have found exclusive video of the USC Trojan football team making final preparations for tomorrow's game.

UPDATE by Rusty: Leave it to a Nebraska graduate to not know the difference between San Francisco--in NORTHERN Cal--and Los Angeles--in SOUTHERN Cal.

We have a name for those guys up there--Golden Bears.

UPDATE: You, Johnny Knoxville.

UPDATE by Vinnie: Oh, my, I did link the wrong vid. Here's the right one.

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What are we to make of the photos of a vehicle hit by an Israeli missiles and why does it matter if some of the specifics of the attack are wrong when the Israelis admit to firing on the vehicle?

It may seem trivial, but in war the editorial nature of pictures can win allies or make enemies out of friends. This is why pictures matter, and why the context in which they are taken must always be known in order for an accurate assessment of events to be made.

Okay, so Allah has this lengthy post about what possibly could have caused the mysterious damage to the Reuters van allegedly hit by an Israeli "missile" in Gaza. And Ace second's the motion here.

The gist of the argument (as I read it) is as Ace puts it The Israelis admit firing on the vehicle.

But I'm not sure that what I, or the others (eg, here, here, here & here), are saying is that the Israelis didn't fire on the vehicle. What we are saying is that what is being reported in the press is not what actually happened. We are not saying (I don't think) that nothing happened, only that the incident probably did not go down as described by Palestinian stringers employed by Reuters.

For instance, Reuters says:

The missile struck the 'P' of the bright red 'PRESS' sign on the roof of the armor-plated Reuters car as Gaza cameraman Fadel Shana hurried to film an Israeli raid.

It certainly doesn't to me. I'm no expert, so I asked the people over at Military Photos to examine it. Some of the answers were similar to Ace's--dismissive because the Israelis claimed the hit. Others were dismissive because it is an international forum and that implies a great deal of antisemitism, but here is some of what was said.

Just from the photo's posted, to me, it does not look like rust or burnt flaking paint on the roof of the car, it looks like dirt to me. My guess is that it was hit by a rather large rock or bolder or building material that impacted / punctured the roof and left a crap load of dirt / debris everywhere.

One might argue that, in the end, it doesn't matter whether a block or brick fell on the roof since it was probably the missile itself which caused the block to fall, perhaps off a nearby building. In other words, so the press got it wrong on the specifics, but it was still Israel that caused the damage.

But that misses the larger point being made about the incident in the press--the editorial point.

Claiming a missile came through the roof of the car at the "p" in "press" drives home the point that the Israelis must have known they were firing at a press vehicle--it was clearly marked.

And that is exactly how Reuters--and the AP--spins the photos. The photos are presented in the context of competing claims. The Israelis claim they didn't know it was a press vehicle, but:

The car was labeled on all sides as a press vehicle.

The missile hitting the car at the "P" is all that is needed to back claims made by Palestinians and their allies in the press that the Israelis are targetting journalists. Simply looking at the photo, as many un-savvy un-bloggerish consumers of the media would do, might lead to the conclusion that the Israelis must be lying. That there is no way they could not have known the vehicle was the press.

Forget that it was hit at night and that targetting cameras would probably not pick up the markings on the vehicle--most readers simply do not not pay that much attention to detail.

The picture tells the only story most will ever read.

But if that hole was made only incidentally to the missile strike--if it was caused by falling debris--than it changes the entire editorial context of the photo.

There are important implications to this story. Ones which, I hope by now, we are all familiar with.

The story is being used as part of a concerted propaganda effort against Israel. True or not, that is how it is being used.

Here is a Palestinian press release (emphasis mine):

CPJ Condemns Targeting 2 Cameramen by Israeli Forces in Gaza...

The Foreign Press Association (FPA) in Israel called the attack an "outrageous targeting" and demanded a full investigation.

Other allegations of deliberate targeting of journalists covering fighting in Gaza and south Lebanon have been made against the Israeli army over the past two months.

As Caroline Glick puts it in her JPOST column today about the incident:

Yet it is unclear why anyone should believe either Shana or Reuters. Shana told Reuters that as he was driving to the battle scene, "I suddenly saw fire and the doors of the jeep flew open." He claims to have been wounded by shrapnel in his hand and leg. These are minor injuries for someone whose vehicle was just hit by a missile.

It is not a coincidence that I saw the pictures of the Reuters' vehicle on Powerline and not in the media coverage of the purported attack. Both the global media and the international NGO community abjectly refuse to investigate themselves. As democratic governments and their militaries have proven incapable of dealing with the phenomenon (in part because they seek to curry favor with the media and the international NGO community), the blogosphere has taken upon itself the role of media watchdog...

As each day passes, the governments, formal and informal legal apparatuses, and media of free societies show themselves to be less and less capable of contending with the information operations conducted against their societies by subversive forces seeking their destruction.

No, it's not that nothing happened, it's just that it probably didn't go down the way the Palestinians--and Reuters--claim it did.

Last, let me reiterate a point that Confederate Yankee makes. Even if we are wrong on this one--that the incident happened exactly as described by Reuters--it really doesn't matter. After all, should the blogosphere stop questioning the mainstream press simply because we might be wrong, then our purpose is over. Done. Nothing left for us to do.

Because if we don't question the press then who will?

UPDATE: Shrapnel vs. a missile, does it matter? Absolutely. Via SeeDub, who now owns Junkyard blog, this:

Shrapnel from two missiles struck two cars including a Reuters’ vehicle.

Palestinian security sources and eyewitnesses said that several Israeli army tanks and armoured vehicles rolled into eastern Gaza City, backed by Israeli helicopters and reconnaissance drones.

The eyewitnesses said that the two camera operators were in a Reuters jeep heading to the area to cover the Israeli Army incursion into eastern Gaza City. They said that an Israeli helicopter fired two missiles at people gathering in the Sheja’eya neighbourhood in eastern Gaza City as the Reuters’ car drove past nearby.

Shrapnel hit the car, wounding Faddel Shana’a of Reuters and Sabah Hemeida, who works for Dubai Television.

That's not quite fair. The real question was about calling shenanigans on photos of vehicles that aren't all the way destroyed. And to answer that reasonable and fair question, I would agree with Allah. You can't call shenanigans on everything.

I do, however, call shenanigans here. Now. In this instance. Not because it was a vehicle, but because it was a media vehicle. Not because nothing happened, but because the photos (IMO) are being used to make propaganda points.

Here's another interesting question. Is there a way to avoid what Ace calls the meme-mentality, yet still be able to raise questions? There must be some happy medium between calling everything shenanigans and saying nothing out of fear of being labeled paranoid.

As always, I could be wrong.

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1 Nice one, Rusty.

Posted by: See-Dubya at August 29, 2006 04:46 PM (UodmQ)

2 Great Post.

Posted by: QC at August 29, 2006 05:14 PM (PX+vn)

3 The IDF said they fired at "a vehicle". Lots different than saying they fired at "that vehicle". Words mean things.

Semantics never fooled my father (just ask my butt). Why does word play so easily fool the MSM?

And while we're talking about fools, how 'bout the welcome the Hezbos choreographed for Supreme Leader Kofi.

Bet Mr. Annan finds a new travel agent!

Posted by: KobeClan at August 29, 2006 05:44 PM (qXyAN)

4 Has anyone actually run a pool to see if more people go to the MSM for news or the Web. And do they then go to the web to vet out the stories?

Posted by: SeeMonk at August 29, 2006 05:56 PM (n4VvM)

5 Polls have been done and the MSM cleans our clocks in page  hits.

Posted by: Jihad Rusty Dirka Dirka at August 29, 2006 06:05 PM (JQjhA)

6 OT:
I read this in my local home town online newspaper:

"From May 2004 to April this year 650 non-UK nationals in [removed] registered for National Insurance numbers necessary for them to gain employment.
The influx was mainly due to the enlargement of the EU in May 2004 when eight former Communist states, including Poland and Lithuania, joined.
They have been credited with filling jobs that local people did not want but many are concerned that not enough jobs are now available to cope with a similar influx of people from Romania and Bulgaria.

...and you thought only the U.S needed immigrants to do the scut work!? Socialism is awesome, import more foreign workers to do the jobs -- while a significant portion of the populus draw a dole check.

Posted by: davec at August 29, 2006 06:09 PM (QkWqQ)

7 Hey, what are we morons of the blogosphere supposed to be doing if not analyzing this crap to death?

Nice post, and I concur with all of it.

Posted by: Pablo at August 29, 2006 06:28 PM (EErm0)

8 Another point to be made is that the Press, either through stunning managerial incompetence or evil intent, has made themselves as legitimate a target of war for the Israelis as Josef Goebbels was for the Allies.

Propaganda is a weapon of war.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at August 29, 2006 06:28 PM (vBK4C)

9 davec, if you think what you are seeing now is something, just wait until Turkey enters the EU. Europe will be overwhelmed with Turks, and fake Turks from every Muslim shithole in the World as well. I can see Turkey becoming the jumping off spot for jihadists wanting to enter Europe, just as it was for 500 years of its history.

Posted by: jesusland joe at August 29, 2006 06:36 PM (rUyw4)

10 "There must be some happy medium between calling everything shenanigans and saying nothing out of fear of being labeled paranoid."

Why should we now trust "news" coming out of Lebanon? We know that Hizb'Allah is waging a propoganda war, and that much of the MSM is either complicit or duped; calling everything "shenanigans" is not paranoid; it's the result of the learning curve.

In my opinion, everything coming out of Reuters and Lebanon should be assumed to be "shenanigans" unless proved otherwise. The burden of proof is on them.

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at August 29, 2006 06:37 PM (JaJsZ)

11 If that is a missile, what model is it?

The self vaporizing hellfire with optional mud warhead?

/sarcasm off

I really wish they would give us some nice photo's of the hole in the dash so we could try and figure out what hit it... You know, like direction, angle, speed, size, missile parts, etc... You know what I'm talking about, actual facts, something they are sorely lacking of these days.

Perhaps it was debris flying from the vehicle that was actually attacked, which made them wreck and smash up the hood?

How many vehicles have they shown us in the last 15 years which really were hit by missiles?

We've seen Strykers, Hummers, civilian vehicles, trucks, armored trucks, etc.... Thousands and thousands of pictures they feed us of these airstrikes. The MSM made us experts at recognizing vehicles hit by missiles, from the Highway of Death as the Iraqi Army left Kuwait to missile strikes in Iraq, Israel, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc... during the WOT.

Do they really think us so stupid to believe a missile hit that truck? They are the ones who gave us this education as they told us how sorry we should be for the innocent civilians killed, who were sitting beside terrorists who killed hundreds. It's funny how these same people laud WW2 where we indiscriminately bombed civilian populations on purpose, because we were at war and didn't want to lose. Winston Churchill decided to knowingly take a German mistake when they bombed London, to start a city bombing campaign with Germany to take the pressure off the RAF. How many Japanese and American lives were saved by the nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, who would have otherwise died in the invasion? Can anyone remind me the last war that had a good ending? What lessons can we learn from this? So a few civilian "friends" of terrorists die, better than hundreds of civilians in terror attacks....

It's really no surprise though, they need the drama to sell newspapers, and most of this planet has proven over and over they do not have the time or care to study what the MSM feeds us as undeniable fact.

Does it ever occur to these MSM editors that the people they hire are locals who are trying to frame whatever their agenda is in the best light they can? Emphasis on agenda...

Posted by: Naieve at August 29, 2006 06:40 PM (+PWjE)

12 This is the first time I have commented here. I agree that things should be looked at more closely before calling "Fauxtography". But everyone on this thread knows that it is in the Quran to "LIE" to defeat the enemy (infidel). But there are 2 points that need to be made. 1) If the MSM calls the Palestinians or Hezbollah on thier staging or Fauxtograpghy they will no longer be allowed to broadcast from those areas,(I think that shows the guts of the MSM), and they would be pushed out or...punished. 2) It is glaringly apparent that the MSM is anti-Bush, anti-Isreal (not so much anti-Semetic) and anti-war. Therefore, this will be continuing problem. The blogs that have exposed this need to stick together, Jawa, Hot Air, Ace, LGF,and all the other blogs should not become enemies concerning this issue but, work together to continue what was started with the first Hajj Fauxto. Sorry for being long-winded on this, but, Rusty you guys do a great job along with everyone else and wouldn't to see that splinter.

Posted by: Tbone at August 29, 2006 06:52 PM (E4STH)

13 I agree, everything coming from the mideast is tainted. Even if 90% never question what it is we are eating, is it not still Soylent Green?

Posted by: SeeMonk at August 29, 2006 07:11 PM (n4VvM)

14 >>>But does that look like a missile entry point to you?

No. It's looks like some paleo car swarmer dropped a cinder block on them.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at August 29, 2006 07:58 PM (8e/V4)

15 If it were a missile it would look much more impressive

Posted by: SeeMonk at August 29, 2006 08:31 PM (n4VvM)

16 The Israeli weapons are so accurate they can hit an aimpoint as small as the 1 ft wide P in Press with debris. The warhead comes complete with a miniature supercomputer based on alien technology from area 51 that allows the warhead to alter its explosion pattern to get the desired effect with the debris.

/sarcasm off

Posted by: Naieve at August 29, 2006 09:39 PM (+PWjE)

17 When i car is marked PRESS its a open target what else do those reptile expect from the military after the way they are potriad by those rotten journalists

Posted by: sandpiper at August 29, 2006 10:25 PM (4v/PL)

18 I am an investigator for the military, I am in Iraq, and have done quite a few post blast/battle damage analysis – my professional opinion, that truck was not hit by a missile.

Posted by: moriarti at August 29, 2006 10:32 PM (blfs0)

19 I am an investigator for the military, I am in Iraq, and have done quite a few post blast/battle damage analysis – my professional opinion, that truck was not hit by a missile.

Posted by: moriarti at August 29, 2006 10:33 PM (blfs0)

20 I am an investigator for the military, I am in Iraq, and have done quite a few post blast/battle damage analysis – my professional opinion, that truck was not hit by a missile.

Posted by: moriarti at August 29, 2006 10:33 PM (blfs0)

21 Interesting. You found out what your "Special Purpose" is for.

So, to summarize, you're not an expert, you didn't really get any decent information to back up your claims from an expert, and it doesn't really matter if you're wrong so long as you keep saying it.

Wow.

That's quite a mission: To say, you know, stuff, regardless of truth.

So you're all the media watchdogs, then eh?

And yet, while you admit to not knowing anything about the accuracy of the report, you find that you have some sort of obligation to question its accuracy, without any sort of reasoning to do so other than that it quotes people you don't like and makes those you support look bad. That's enough?

Why are you not holding yourselves to the standards you supposedly hold those you critique?

I think I'll continue to go with what the people at the scene are saying. You just tighten those blinders and keep seeing what you want to see. You have the luxury too. It's really easy from a distance, like while looking at a computer screen thousands of miles away from what you're talking about.

Posted by: afl at August 30, 2006 04:14 AM (NnDq/)

22 AFL,

The report from the Bangkok Post say Eyewitnesses saw an attack on Palestinean Militants into which the Reuters van got too close.

Or perhaps you still believe they deliberatley aimed at the "P in Press"...

No one here unequivicolly said the vehicle wasn't hit by the Israeli's, we said that vehicle WAS NOT THE TARGET.

So please, listen to the "Arab Reuters Stringers" who we all know would "never lie"...

Oh wait, their stories are being conflicted by eyewitnesses? Hmm, why oh why would we question them?

Posted by: Naieve at August 30, 2006 03:49 PM (+PWjE)

23 Rusty,

 

If people will spend the time to review photos during the past years, more faux photography and staged photo ops will emerge

 

For example, one of my pet peeves happened during the Tsunami crises. Examine the Indonesian and Asian news photos of the US military rescue efforts during the Tsunami tragedy. I spent a week looking them over, and was astonished at the apparent anti-US, Australian, and British bias shown in Asian media sources such as the Asian Times. Americans saw many wonderful photos of our outreach, but they were never shown in Asian newspapers and online media.

 

I found photos with the following themes:

 

Photos of navy rescue landings combined with captions that implied a US invasion not our rescue efforts. You have to see these photos to understand.  The focus is on fearful military aspects, with no victims or tsunami damage included in the photos.

 

Photos of British and Aussie soldiers standing around and goofing off out of uniform; implying they weren't actually helping victims but laying around being useless.. 

 

The majority of photos showing supplies and aid being given to tsunami victims implied that Indonesian officials were the source. Few photos ever showed Americans, Brits or Aussies distributing relief supplies. The few photos showing non-Indonesian doctors and relief workers were of French or EU workers.

 

Although, many tsunami survivors knew the US provided much of the major rescue effort, thanks to an obvious Asian media slant, the other readers of Asian media would have never guessed the role the USA played in saving lives.    

Mirra
 
btw  You were right about Jill Carroll. Thanks for the head up

Posted by: Mirra at August 30, 2006 08:17 PM (LQOJL)

24 afl, you don't have to be an expert to see that the vehicle in question was not hit by a missile. Common sense comes into play at some point. But, several experts have looked at the evidence and concurred with Rusty's view. I suppose you will believe anything that Reuters might say, simply because they said it. Question authority, dude! You need to learn to question authority.

Posted by: jesusland joe at August 31, 2006 07:12 AM (rUyw4)

25 That car looks like it came from a junkyard

Posted by: sandpiper at September 04, 2006 09:10 AM (AFJdY)

26 I never served in the military, or have seen (much) battle damage up close, but I think I have done my due diligence on what missile damage should look like. Besides taking a keen interest in all sort of military hardware, Jane's source books and what not, I never miss a chance to ask an actual servicemen how things work.
I had a friend in the USMC who trained Marines in the use of TOW missiles (not much different Hellfire missiles in effect. In one weapon demonstration the turret of an M48 tank was ripped free from the hull.
Marines my friend had trained attacked an armored convoy during Desert Storm, and started knocking out a tank per missile, and the Iraqi commander said later they thought they were under air attack, because the didn't know where the missiles were coming from.
Once, a TOW missile had the warhead removed so it could be live fired at a tank during exercises. The 'demilitarized' missile struck the side of the turret causing concussion inside that disabled the crew. My friend never mentioned 'spall' or other possible damage, but that the crew for sure had been stunned, and incapacitated.
There is no way I can accept that a "missile" hit that vehicle directly. Maybe a 70mm rocket with a less lethal payload. Maybe even a 40mm grenade (I am not up to date on whether the 40mm is still used on helicopters or not)
Shrapnel makes a lot of sense. So does pieces of damaged building falling from above.
One thing that is absolutely clear is the attempted deceit. Consider Qana ....
Definitely dead babies at Qana, but the spin was all to obvious. We were being played.
LGF and JAWA and the rest of the critical bloggers need to keep the lens focused for those of us who prefer the truth. We need you! Sorry for this long post, but just don't stop what you started. They lie to us every chance, and we have had to choke it down for years because we didn't have an internet, and honest and alert people to engage the lies in this manner.
Besides ... its good practice for tearing apart Daily Kos.

USA All the way!

Posted by: Mike at September 04, 2006 09:21 PM (2OHpj)

27 I never served in the military, or have seen battle damage up close, but I think I have done my due diligence on what missile damage should look like. Besides taking a keen interest in all sort of military hardware, Jane's source books and what not, I never miss a chance to ask an actual servicemen how things work.
I had a friend in the USMC who trained Marines in the use of TOW missiles (not much different Hellfire missiles in effect. In one weapon demonstration the turret of an M48 tank was ripped free from the hull.
Marines my friend had trained attacked an armored convoy during Desert Storm, and started knocking out a tank per missile, and the Iraqi commander said later they thought they were under air attack, because the didn't know where the missiles were coming from.
Once, a TOW missile had the warhead removed so it could be live fired at a tank during exercises. The 'demilitarized' missile struck the side of the turret causing concussion inside that disabled the crew. My friend never mentioned 'spall' or other possible damage, but that the crew for sure had been stunned, and incapacitated.
There is no way I can accept that a "missile" hit that vehicle directly. Maybe a 70mm rocket with a less lethal payload. Maybe even a 40mm grenade (I am not up to date on whether the 40mm is still used on helicopters or not)
Shrapnel makes a lot of sense. So does pieces of damaged building falling from above.
One thing that is absolutely clear is the attempted deceit. Consider Qana ....
Definitely dead babies at Qana, but the spin was all to obvious. We were being played.
LGF and JAWA and the rest of the critical bloggers need to keep the lens focused for those of us who prefer the truth. We need you! Sorry for this long post, but just don't stop what you started. They lie to us every chance, and we have had to choke it down for years because we didn't have an internet, and honest and alert people to engage the lies in this manner.
Besides ... its good practice for tearing apart Daily Kos.

USA All the way!

Posted by: Mike at September 04, 2006 09:27 PM (2OHpj)

28 Sorry about the double post
I an a clutz

Posted by: Mike at September 04, 2006 09:30 PM (2OHpj)

29 I just said more than I really wanted to! Go figure.

USA All the way!

Posted by: Mike at September 04, 2006 09:33 PM (2OHpj)

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Okay, so can someone tell me why it takes three bloggers to fill in for Andrew Sullivan while he's "gone fishing"?

As far as I can tell, each of the fillins is twice as talented as he-of-the-ever-so-appalled-and-horrified.

By my calculations that makes The Daily Dish six times better now than it was a week ago.

Michael Totten is better. Way better. And he's actually reporting from the Middle East. He tells me in an e-mail that he's touring around Israeli villages near Gaza today.

As opposed to he who happens to know the objectively moral position to take on each and every issue in the Middle East--and if you disagree with him you're a hypocrite and you make baby Jesus cry!

And the artist formerly known as Wonkette? When Ana Marie links the iGallop--horseriding "exercise" machine--it's hot. If Sullie did it? Not so much.

There's good linking to not-so-thinly-veiled sexual self-gratification devices, and bad linking. more...

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It seems maybe they need some help from expatriots living here to work out the kinks, eh?

Via Traderrob at Opinipundit: Fourteen days after the government asked Internet Service Providers(ISPs) to block access to four ‘‘offensive’’ blogs, India’s world-renowned computer techies have not been able to selectively ban only those websites. Instead, all of blogspot, geocities and typepad.com are only accessible in fits and starts throughout the country.

ISPs say this is due to technical constraints, but now, some experts are saying that the situation is more a sign of incompetence than technical constraints.

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It's only a test.

Uh...

Umm...

Err... (throw some in the tip jar, please, I'm serious)

And that concludes this test of the blogospheric Alert System.

This was only a test. Had this been real, you would have been instructed to go about your daily lives as if the internet never existed.

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Some jerk off fairly good guy stole borrowed/copied/used one of All Seeing Eyes Posts and didn't even link him. That's like being screwed without a kiss. Give him hell.Go over there and say hello.

Update: Shy boy has taken down this post. However, I suspect some of the other posts may also be copies. If you recognize a post as originiating elsewhere please notify that blogger.

We get sh!t done!

Hat Tip: Rob.

One of the other articles is from here. In fact almost all the posts are from there.

Update: Shyboy has made quite an effort to correct this. I found out today that he also has limited movement so typing is quite difficult for him. He took exception to some of the stronger language I used. My apologies if I offended Shyboy. It's supposed to be half jest anyway. So go over there and give him a holler(support).

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Well, not exactly, but it's a start.

So far, no fatwa...

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Hey, Cosmo, you seen this yet?

Jesus H. Christ, Wanda, every time I try to eat you show that crap.

Wanda: Yeah, but the thing about the pointy teeth...

Cosmo: What do you expect from someone who doesn't research?

Wanda: Yeah, but she's giving our master a bad name.

We have a theory about grown adults who still have snakes as pets (this guy is 31). Something--or, rather many things--is not right there.

Cosmo: Well, the 8 year old and 5 year old love us, but, broad generalizations and all that rubbish.

Wanda: Yeah, I always knew you were the smart one.

Cosmo: Can I eat now, my mail-lady is getting cold. more...

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From Fox News:

Over the last two weeks, the blogosphere has buzzed about a bare-knuckled incident that provides a glimpse at how relations between left and right have deteriorated in some circles.

Right-wing blogger Jeff Goldstein maintains a well-respected site entitled Protein Wisdom. Left-wing Deborah Frisch maintains the south(west)paw blog. She prides herself on attacking 'right-wing nuts' -- or 'wingnuts' in blogspeak -- by posting insults on their websites. (Left-wingers are referred to as 'moonbats'.)

An exchange on Protein Wisdom between Goldstein and Frisch turned so nasty that it landed in the mainstream media. On July 12, Brit Hume of FOX News reported, "Deborah Frisch escalated a foreign policy argument with blogger Jeff Goldstein last week, writing that if 'someone shot you and your 'tyke' it wouldn't slow me down one iota.' She also wrote that she hopes 'no one Jon-Benets' the child -- a reference to the brutal murder of a young Colorado girl ten years ago -- and made disturbing sexual remarks about the boy."
. . .

The failure of Frisch's blog was widely ascribed to similar malice until she explained "SWP is back up and running after a 36 hour erasure due to my using a fake phone number (555 1212) when I registered my domain name."

Interesting... I wonder how that could've happened?

UPDATE: Frisch is now claiming that everything is simply unfolding according to her master plan:

"I've been joking for a while that I want to be a left-wing Ann Coulter," she says, referring to the right-wing pundit. "As hard as it is to see right now, this is part of my career plan."

And, who knows, it could land her on Letterman or Leno.

"I'm thinking Stephen Colbert," Frisch says.

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Never one to be encumbered by fact, Debbie Schlussel goes for the brass ring.

One thing is lost in all the press coverage of the whining Americans who went to Lebanon of their own accord and now want us to pick up the tab to get them out.

THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS IN LEBANON ARE HEZBOLLAH SUPPORTERS.

Okay, that's all well and good, I guess, despite the fact that she doesn't back up her claim with anything but her own word. Which, I might add, is a vocabulary consisting of mostly "I'LL SUE!"

So, let's examine. 25,000 Americans in Lebanon, the majority of whom, according to the blogtard, are Hezbollah supporters. How many have been evacuated so far?

120.

How many are our military planning to evacuate? 5-8,000.

Yet our intrepid warrior says this:

is it a good idea to rush to bring 25,000 such persons back to the U.S. at a time when Hezbollah is at war against the strongest U.S. ally?

Back to reality:

The evacuated Americans will be taken to Cyprus, where they can choose to go on to their homes or fly to other countries.

So St. Deborah Of The Factually Challengedâ„¢ is concerned that a marauding horde of rampaging Hezbollah supporters numbering 25,000 will invade our shores at our expense.

Even though it's a marauding horde of homogenous U.S. citizens invading Cyprus for much cheaper. With an option to go elsewhere on their own dime.

If my knee were jerking, I might agree with this:

Should Hezbollah supporters be transported on a ship named for one of the most heroic events in U.S. history, the U.S.S Iwo Jima? Should U.S. tax dollars fund the charter of commercial ships to transport the rest of these terror-sympathizers?

The instant answer from all freedom-loving Americans to these questions should be a loud "NO."

Well, if Deb would provide actual proof that the majority of the people being evacuated are Hezbollah sympathizers, I might hesitate at endorsing the action. But, then again, if all of these Hezbollah sympathizers are being evacuated, isn't in our best interests to keep tabs on them? Especially since they're going to a Mediterranean island?

Here's a nice picture of the people that Debbie Schlussel doesn't want your tax dollars being spent to evacuate:

Yup, looks like a Hezbollah supporter to me. More can be found here.

In conclusion, I have to voice my deepest suspicions. Debbie Schlussel is a mole. She's a Kos Kid tasked to invade the right wing, her mission to make us look bad. She has all the classic earmarks of a leftist, i.e.

Presents conclusions based on nothing.

Retaliates on those who disagree with litigation.

Calls for a boycott of Wal Mart.

The photo on her site doesn't match the real Deborah.

Whatever she is, she's definitely a blogtard.

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1 I think Rush has OD'd on his Viagra lately, no?

Posted by: SondraK at July 19, 2006 01:03 AM (PFaz2)

2 She realy is off of her meds agian.

Posted by: Lc Scott at July 19, 2006 03:16 AM (k29k6)

3 Why do nice tits HAVE to have a human(oid) support system. It's not fair!

She'd be perfect if she was only those fun, round, milky bags.

Posted by: Radical Redneck at July 19, 2006 03:24 AM (timdM)

4 Sondra, there's NO SUCH THING as A Viagra overdose!

I'd write why but the computer table keeps tipping!

Posted by: Radical Redneck at July 19, 2006 03:27 AM (timdM)

5 So the theory goes...If another right wing nut becomes nuttier than you, it must be a leftist desguised as right winger acting out so as to discredit you?

Buahahahahaha...Oh man, this sh#t is beautiful...Just writes itself. We are talking Mel Brooks-level comedy here man.

Get'er done!!!

Posted by: mighty7 at July 19, 2006 06:02 AM (qc/Hi)

6 Thanks for the Hezbollah view, mighty7.

Posted by: jesusland joe at July 19, 2006 06:43 AM (rUyw4)

7 The mistress of the undocumented slur has no patience for anyone questioning her statements -- or even tweaking her just a bit.

You should have seen the shit-fit -- including nasty personal emails -- when i commented on on of her columns over at Lucianne.com several years ago,because I called her "Ditzy Debbie".

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at July 19, 2006 07:12 AM (n4k2k)

8 I thought she was far right, not a mole for Kos. She doesn't seem like a liberal to me. She's a crazy bitch though. As for the people in the pictures, Yep, just look at them. They are a bunch of terrorists if I ever saw one. I'm being sarcastic by the way.

Posted by: George Ramos at July 19, 2006 07:53 AM (CnDtU)

9 The evacuees got there of their own accord, and by living or vacationing they are indirectly supporting Hezbollah by helping the economy in Lebanon. I have little sympathy for people who choose to live in the danger zone, elbow to elbow with the terrorists. I would rather spend my own tax money on my own ticket to Florida!

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at July 19, 2006 08:04 AM (gLMre)

10 Many, if not most, of those 'Americans' are Lebanese-American shiite muslims who support Hesbollah. I say dump em all on the beach.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at July 19, 2006 09:01 AM (8e/V4)

11 And lest I wasn't clear enough, I think she makes a damn valid point.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at July 19, 2006 09:18 AM (8e/V4)

12 I have to agree with you about the whole facts/data thing; I just wrote a post last night to the effect that there is generally a higher standard for supporting data and research for opinions expressed in many of the conservative sites I visit. What's interesting is that she appears to represent the opposite side of the spectrum - a rightwinger who can't bear critique. But I guess they must happen too.

Now as to that terrorist thing... Only people who *don't* spent a lot of time around little kids would think they're not terrorists! They're wily and cunning, constantly looking for ways to exploit your weaknesses. They're experts at using PR against you (especially in the form of grandparents and your spouse), and no technique is too low for them. And don't forget the occasional sneak attack, usually on something you really need or thought was safe. No, they're terrorists, plain and simple!

Posted by: Katje at July 19, 2006 09:56 AM (odotS)

13 Carlos, the vast majority of these people aren't even going to be evacuated.

Posted by: Vinnieâ„¢ - Editor In Chief Pro Temporeâ„¢ at July 19, 2006 10:06 AM (/qy9A)

14 Jesusland--how do you or Debbie know that? Do you have a single source or fact to back that up? Vinnie's damn right--this is just unsubstantiated garbage. Back it up, or shut it up.

Truth is, MOST lebanese immigrants to America have been Christians (like the only Arab American senator we ever had, Spence Abraham of Michigan, or Ray Lahood of Illinois, both Republican Lebanese Christians). How do I know that? Well, think about it: the Maronites have been losing power in Lebanon ever since the French left. Lebanon was created by the French as a Lebanese Christian homeland, but they have been emigrating in increasing numbers for greater opportunities, particularly since the 60s. Some muslims have left, but I'd guess it is at least evenly split between Sunnis and Shi'ites.

The irony of many Arab communities in America is that even from countries like Syria, they tend to have a lot of Christians, because Christians have been fleeing the Arab world (including, incidentally, the West Bank) because of the rise of Islamic extremism and bigotry against Christians. There are several prominent Syrian Christians...like Ralph Nader.

I'm kind of surprised that "Jesusland" would label all these Christians "Shi'ites" Where do you get that idea???

Posted by: jd at July 19, 2006 10:32 AM (aqTJB)

15 I'm just waiting for her griping expose on Max Klinger: jihadist wolf in drab and drag.

Posted by: yo at July 19, 2006 10:36 AM (Stkxb)

16 Sounds like someone is trying to compete with Ann Coulter in outrageous, unsubstantiated opinions, and in that each could pass for a man in drag.

Seriously, are either of these cunts still popular enough to be noticeable?

Posted by: Venom at July 19, 2006 10:42 AM (pYHpB)

17 This is from a Shibley Telhami paper on Arab Americans published by Brookings. Telhami is a great scholar:

Most Arabs in America are not Muslim, and most Muslims are not Arabs. Most Arab Americans came from Lebanon and Syria, in several waves of immigration beginning at the outset of the 20th century. Most Muslim Americans are African American or from South Asia. Many of the early Arab immigrants assimilated well in American society. Arab-American organizations are fond of highlighting prominent Americans of at least partial Arab descent: Ralph Nader, George Mitchell, John Sununu, Donna Shalala, Spencer Abraham, Bobby Rahal, Doug Flutie, Jacques Nasser, Paul Anka, Frank Zappa, Paula Abdul, among many others. Like other ethnic groups in America, Arabs and Muslims have produced many successful Americans whose ethnic background is merely an afterthought.
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I have several Lebanese Christian friends, including one guy in college who was a strong supporter of the Phalangists, and hated Muslims more than you do, Jesusland. (He actually preferred to call himself a Phoenician, and claimed that the Muslim lebanese were Arab and Turkish immigrants to his Phoenicia. He made a big deal out of being blue eyed....).

Do you still think "many or most" of those "Americans" are shi'ite supporters of Hezbollah? Why do you continue to think that?

Posted by: jd at July 19, 2006 11:12 AM (aqTJB)

18 Thank you for your support Vinnie. Just because they are Lebanese doesn't mean they support Hezbollah. Their only crime is living in Lebanon. We are not going to save them all but we should help as many as we can. Debbie is giving far right people a bad image. Even Sean Hannity isn't this far gone.

Posted by: George Ramos at July 19, 2006 11:22 AM (CnDtU)

19 I don't remember where I read it/heard it the first time. But not on Debbie's site cause I've never been there. But Debbie does link to a Lebanese christian woman who also appears to agree with her. Is she some rightwing loon too?:

Most Americans in Lebanon Are Hezbollah Supporters

http://cedarmailer.com/americancongress/pages/archive/messagedetails.asp?ID=477

And if the IDF is not bombing christian areas and they're pretty much ok, as she claims, but IS bombing shiite areas, doesn't that also suggest that the evacuess would be mostly shiite? I think it does. I'll bring you the proof as soon as I find it.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at July 19, 2006 11:45 AM (8e/V4)

20 They might not be Hezbutthole supporters but the ones I've seen sure are a bunch of of wining dumbfucks. Anyone that drags their kids to a shithole like Lebanon on a vacation is coming real close to child abuse. And then these asshole want to bitch that the US government can't beam them out of there on a minutes notice.

Go to Florida next year dipshits!

Posted by: Barney Coppersmith at July 19, 2006 11:54 AM (2BOvC)

21 Ok, it appears I may have read it first from Charles Johnson at LGF, who himself was cross posted from Debbie Schlussel. So I admit I don't have the "proof" outside of Debbie's blog, except for the Lebanese christian woman who agrees with Debbie that the evacuees are coming from the shiite areas, not christian ones-- because that's who the Israelis are bombing! Makes sense, but I have no proof. Happy now?

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at July 19, 2006 12:16 PM (8e/V4)

22 Barry, Lebanon is the jewel of the mediterranean. For many years it was the Switzerland of the Arab world. It was the most diverse, the least authoritarian, the freest press, the easiest social atmosphere...I'm sure people at Jawa will be glad to hear that there were bikinis on the beaches... I've talked to people who have been there who rave about its incredible beauty. There are few places on earth where you can ski during the day and swim in the evening on a moonlit beach, but Lebanon was one. There is also an extraordinary melange of peoples and architecture, as well as ruins of all the empires that passed over Lebanon since well before Christ. I've been to Florida...I didn't see much of that.

Carlos--although the Israelis are pinpoint experts at bombing, the last time they had a major assault on Lebanon, they missed their target and hit a neighboring village, killing 100 civilians (this is what THEY say, not an uncredited Arab allegation). Lebanon is a very small country, and many Christian houses are next to Muslim neighborhoods. They are also bombing Lebanese Army outposts, which are NOT in Hezbollah territories.

That said, Krauthammer in the Wpost has the most hopeful depiction I've read so far of the Israeli strategy.

Posted by: jd at July 19, 2006 12:25 PM (aqTJB)

23 Schlussel knows exactly what size shoe her mouth wears. The problems is, she keeps forgetting and has to check again.

---------------------
So, Mighty7:

Here's another instance whereby conservatives disown their fringe whackos. When will you disown yours? Or ARE you the fringe?

Posted by: Oyster at July 19, 2006 01:16 PM (cJvIk)

24 Sorry jd - didn't do much skiing when I was there in '83.

Posted by: Barney Coppersmith at July 19, 2006 02:05 PM (2BOvC)

25 Schlussel is just another idiot fucking lawyer. That says it all. I have read her trash, and she seems pretty unhinged to me. And who remembers how pissy she got when another blogger had the effrontery to put her photo up on their web site? Shlussel went apeshit over it.

As bugs bunny used to say, "What a maroon!"

Posted by: USMC Steve at July 19, 2006 02:25 PM (FRERp)

26 She posted on her website that JFK opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964...in addition to the fact that he was DEAD at the time, he had supported it in life, in fact he had proposed it in 1963.

Of course, she never issued a correction. Or any kind of response.

Posted by: jd at July 19, 2006 04:47 PM (aqTJB)

27 hehe! Finally something we can agree upon.

I'm still trying to get over her assertion that because Arabs play soccer, Americans who like soccer are on the side of the TERRORISTS!

Posted by: The Liberal Avenger at July 19, 2006 06:10 PM (FcZzw)

28 Did she really say that, LA? It's tough to tell the satire from the facts when it comes to her. If she did, she has no idea how popular soccer is in Israel...

Posted by: jd at July 19, 2006 06:11 PM (aqTJB)

29 Jewel of the Mediterranean???? Now that's funny! Ha Ha Ha! That book has been out of date for many decades now.

Barney - me neither in '83. Couldn't get lift tickets. Did fill a shitload of sandbags, get a nasty sunburn, and an itty bitty piece of shrapnel in the right thigh. A John Kerry wound - friend gave me a pair of tweezers and a bandaid. Never filed papers on it though - kinda embarrassing.

Posted by: hondo at July 19, 2006 06:19 PM (MVgHp)

30 I dunno, Hondo. People who went there after the Civil War ended said that the reconstruction was going pretty well, and the natural beauty still present. On the other hand, it would have to be pretty sweet to beat Croatia and Greece. Let's compromise and say "Jewel of the Arab World" since that's a much lower level of competition.

Posted by: jd at July 19, 2006 06:41 PM (aqTJB)

31 Yeah, jd, she actually did. I'm too tired and lazy to dig out the link,

Posted by: Vinnieâ„¢ - Editor In Chief Pro Temporeâ„¢ at July 19, 2006 06:53 PM (/qy9A)

32 I'm afraid that she did (link soccer and terrorism). I have found the URL for you - I had forgotten that Michael Jackson fandom played a part in her formula as well.

Posted by: The Liberal Avenger at July 19, 2006 07:21 PM (FcZzw)

33 OK - this one is even better...

[Link]

Debbie, at age 37, stumbles upon the cutting-edge theory that Asians may have migrated across the Bering Strait land bridge into the Americas tens of thousands of years ago.

This gets the gears in her head turning...

"If the ASIANS were here first," she thinks to herself, "then that means that there's NO SUCH THING AS A NATIVE AMERICAN!"

Plans are then hatched to wrest control of the reservation "gaming" and tax-free cigarette industries from so-called "indians."

She's one of the darlings of the conservative blogosphere! I'll bet you guys are proud!

Posted by: The Liberal Avenger at July 19, 2006 07:27 PM (FcZzw)

34 This is called A FACT:

Most Lebanese-Americans are Christian.

This is called a theory:

Since most Lebanese-Americans are Christian (fact) then it follows that most Lebanese-Americans don't support Hezbollah.

This is called an anecdote:

Most Lebanese-Americans (I know quite a few of them, and am even sort of related to some) hate Hezbollah and Muslims in general. They also aren't big fans of the J-O-Os, but not supporting Israel is not the same as supporting Israel.

Posted by: Rusty at July 19, 2006 10:11 PM (BXC/2)

35 Yea jd - the Beeka Valley is lovely this time of the year. Just because the country is throwing the mother of all block parties out front will I overlook the gathering of psychotic neighbors in their backyard.

Hondo - MED DET MSSG22 - you?

Posted by: Barney Coppersmith at July 19, 2006 10:17 PM (2BOvC)

36 LA, I know you read a lot of conservative blogs, and you know better than to claim that she's one of the darlings of the conservative blogosphere.

We have our own anti-Schlussel blogroll, something the left doesn't have for Deb Frisch, who is comparitive in derision on your side.

Posted by: Vinnie Editor In Chief Pro Tempore at July 19, 2006 11:42 PM (/qy9A)

37 When I read that 14,000 French were in their old colony I was surprised by the fact that 25,000 Americans are in Lebanon.

Doesn't that warrant further investigation even if D.S. is B.S.?

Then... note that about 1/2 the Hezbollah criminal investigations/convictions in the USA are in Dearborn, Michigan per Counterterrorism Blog: Hizballah Activity in North America

Sure... even a clock is right twice a day. But Dearborn keeps coming up, Hezbollah in America is a reality and what are so many 'Americans' doing in Lebanon?

Posted by: DANEgerus at July 20, 2006 01:41 AM (fr81t)

38 Barney

USAREUR/Corps Engineers Investigation Team

Virtually every Fed Agency and mil branch wanted a piece of the onsite investigation - Navy told everyone to fuck off - it was their AO.

Spent the entire time at the airport.

Posted by: hondo at July 20, 2006 07:58 AM (MVgHp)

39 Yeah, what are all those "Americans" doing?

Keeping in touch with the mother country. Some Lebanese Americans, like Greek Americans, send their children to the old country for weeks and months during the summer. Also, the US has had long economic and cultural interests in Lebanon, much more than most Arab countries. There are at least two American affiliated universities there. Also, Beirut was recovering its role as a central banking center, and we have a lot more financial interests than the French.

Posted by: jd at July 20, 2006 11:07 AM (aqTJB)

40 Has anyone read her slapdown of the Avain Vomitologist?
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/07/we_learn_new_en.html#comments

She likes being nasty even to people that are not even political targets. That imho is not nice dear Debbie.

Cheers from Seffrika, home of the crazy and the brave.

Posted by: RobC at July 21, 2006 04:28 AM (o0N0R)

41 Vinnie:

You're petifogging. The majority of the Americans demanding to be evacuated from Lebanon probably are Party of Allah supporters. According to the State Department, most of them are from muslim ridden areas in places like Michigan (Shit-hole.) I've been there and it's like a separate nation existing within America. A nation that hates America.

Schlussel should have made the distinction between Americans in Lebanon and those clamoring for evacuation. Those assholes aren't afraid of the Party of Allah--they're afraid of the Israelis. Most of the evacuees were "vacationing" in South Lebanon. Not a lot of pro-American sentiment in South Lebanon.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at July 21, 2006 07:06 PM (jwbRD)

42 Jeff--the majority of Arabs in this country are Christians. You can talk about what you saw, but the facts remain the same. Christian Arabs are often ambivalent about Israel, and some have allied with Israel, as many Maronites did in the 80s. Just because someone is from an area, you can't engage in prejudice. There are still Christian families living in majority shi'ite areas in Lebanon. There are 17 religious sects, officially recognized, in Lebanon. They live all jumbled together.

And American Arabs are quite patriotic, in my experience, even when they hate our Israel policy. Here's evidence for that: there are few if any incidents of Arab Americans engaging in terrorism (I'm distinguishing between citizens and resident aliens, but even there, the numbers as a % of total population are low compared to Europe).

Posted by: jd at July 23, 2006 01:36 PM (DQYHA)

43 JD:

Your point is common knowledge. It's also irrelevant. Christian Lebanese Americans haven't lifted a finger to rid their country of the "party of allah" or Syria's control. Instead of working to liberate their country, they left their fellow citizens to rot and fled here. They go back to Lebanon like the parasites they are to suck what they can from it while the countrymen they abandoned suffer. Fuck them.

Why do you assume that most of the evacuees are Christian? Just because most "Arab" Americans are Christian, doesn't mean most of the evacuees are. Are most of the "Arabs" in American mosques Christian just because Christians make up a majority of the "Arab" American population? The Christians don't have to fear being targeted by the Israelis--and they DON'T live in South Lebanon.

The vast majority of Lebanese are not filthy Arabs, by the way. Arabic is a language they share, but ethnically they aren't the same.

Arabs are the least patriotic segment of American society. They have the lowest military participation level in the country--far lower than illegal aliens, even. Patriots are willing to fight for their country--the vast majority of "Arabs" are not.

To put it bluntly: You are wrong.

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Previously, I noted that the lefty blogs had been oddly silent on Professor Deborah Frisch's bizarre, threatening comments to Jeff Goldstein of Protein Wisdom. My comment, and those of others I've read, merely addressed the lack of comment from the left. I don't care what they might have to say, I just found it interesting that they had nothing to say. Comments like these have been morphed by some lefty bloggers into "demands" for an "apology." I haven't seen or heard anyone ask for, much less demand, an apology on behalf of Deborah Frisch or "the left," nor do I even see how that would be appropriate. That, friends, is what we call a "strawman."

In fairness, I've since come across a number of left-wing blogs addressing Professor Frisch's attacks. First, this nice and very reasonable comment from TalkLeft:

I'm late coming to the story of the psychology professor and Jeff Goldstein of Protein Wisdom, but here's my view: What Deborah Frisch wrote is inexcusable behavior for a blogger of any kind, liberal or conservative. Her comments about Jeff Goldstein's son and wife are indeed unhinged. I cannot imagine any provocation that could justify them.

If you don't like Jeff's writings, don't read them. Or read them and disagree with his arguments.

Here's what Skippy the Bush Kangaroo has to say: more...

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Jeff Goldstein has his blog back up in the wake of the DDOS attack, so he might appreciate a visit. Jeff posted the following message to his readers and supporters:

... I’m very touched and humbled by the show of support I’ve received over the past few days. So much so, in fact, that were I the pie king, you’d each wake tomorrow to a nice big slice of key lime, with real whipped topping and a fresh lime wedge garnish.

On a related note, Michelle has an excellent run-down on the latest blogging on Deborah Frisch, and Froggy at Blackfive introduces a new verb:

To Frisch: Writing something on the internet so creepy and offensive that you are forced to quit your job before getting canned. Ex. Deb really frisched herself when she threatened that blogger's 2 year old child with death and sexual molestation.

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I think I learned a new Turkish word! The apparent bad gay fixation of the Turkish Islamic Cyberterrorists reveals itself on this thread. If you get bored and want to insult a Bad Gay Turkish Bathhouse Hanging Islamotard here you go.

Muzzy

Turkey, Istanbul (no valid email)

http://f*ckyouallprotestans.com

WTF THAT ALL IMAGES... DO YOU HAVE A GOD AND BOOK HAAA... YOU'RE ALL FREQUENTLY F*CKED ASSHOLES

Next we have this fine example of English with email addy.

sikeyim@hotmail.com

I fake you Webmaster ich ficken dich webmaster orosbu cocugu az kaldi bakle..

TÃœRKÃœM_TÃœRK

Germany, Dusseldorf

senguel.hez@web.de

I'm hate American People, don't forget World Trade Center in Memorial... ahhhaahhhhaaaa... we killed all them, fisrt, second....everywhere!!!

(and this gem)

KiLLeR

New Jersey, Brick

IF you don't take out this pictures, i will. is that clear? You couple motherf@ckers are making it worst!!!

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With each passing day, I find myself more and more perplexed by those who claim to love Israel and yet align themselves with the political left. This day is no exception. From Grand Moff Texan over at DailyKos:

Israel is not my problem. Unlike these fringe radicals on the right who put another country first, I can go entire days without thinking about Israel at all. I'm interested in my own contry's priorities, and those are enough of a mess. The US no longer needs Israel to force a Soviet Union that doesn't exist anymore to exhaust itself in the region. The Cold War utility of Israel has been defunct for over a decade, but the think tank hacks who justified it for a generation (largely by calling everyone "anti-semites") didn't want to have to get real jobs. So why is it that the US, and by extension American academics, have to go on supporting a policy that even Israel is abandoning? Because that's the way we discipline intellectuals in the USSA. Much of the American right is still bogged down in the habits of self-deception they cultivated during the Cold War. They have created the "War on Terror" to keep themselves in power.

So, America should be a "fairweather friend" to its closest allies, to cynically use them when it suits America's interests and then drop 'em like hot rocks when they "outlive their usefulness"? Realpolitik, indeed... more...

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Michelle is pretty miffed at Wonkette. Let the hair fly. Since I'm deaf from liberals whining about our comments, It feels good to stick a thumb in their eye. I dunno Michelle looks quick and wire like. Probably knows martial arts too, Oh wait I take that back ;)

Update cat vs Dog. Wonkette is all "males" now. I still think Michelle can take em.

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