The Jawa Report has obtained evidence that Yusuf Islam, the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens, was once connected to radical clerics Omar Bakri Mohammed & Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman. According to at least one credible source, he was also involved in terrorist financing.

In an online voice chat from exile in Lebanon where he fled after British authorities banned several groups connected to him, Bakri told followers that various prominent Muslims would once frequent his office. Among those listed is Cat Stevens.

Bakri Mohammed has urged Muslims in the U.K. to fight British troops in Iraq and elsewhere, justified the 7/7 London bombings, and has publicly called for the murder of all who blaspheme the Muslim prophet Muhammed. Several followers of Bakri Mohammed have been arrested for their public calls for the murder of blasphemers. At least one has been recently been convicted.

The online chat was captured by Glen Jenvey who is part of an organization that secretly monitors the activities of radical Muslims who support terrorism. Jenvey, who we have worked with in the past and who has helped convict several high profile terror supporters, contacted The Jawa Report about the recorded conversation shortly after he captured it. The audio recording was made in what Bakri Mohammed believed was a private chat between himself and his radical followers.

But there's more. Bakri also claimed that Cat Stevens was an intimate of convicted terrorist Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman. When the Egyptian born cleric, better known as "The Blind Sheikh", would visit Britain, "Yusuf Islam used to sit near to him and ask him whatever he want [sic]."

Bakri then suggests that Cat Stevens also helped support Abdel Rahman's family financially. He also claims that Yusuf Islam knowingly sent money to the families of "the mujahidin" in Egypt. Giving money to the families of so-called 'martyrs' is a way for Muslims to support terrorism indirectly and yet remain shielded from most legal ramifications.

Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman is head of the same group that murdered 58 tourists near Luxor, Egypt, and he is currently serving a life sentence in the U.S. for a conspiracy to blow up targets in the United States.

Yusuf Islam was denied entry into the United States in 2004 after his name appeared on the "no fly list". The Muslim convert sued two British newspapers, The Sun and The Sunday Times, for libel because they had claimed that the U.S. Transportation and Security Administration had correctly identified him as a supporter of terror in the past. The papers settled the lawsuit out of court and apologized to Yusuf Islam.

But the new recordings by Glen Jenvey of Omar Bakri Mohammed call into question the denials made by the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens. In the past, Islam has appeared at numerous fundraisers for the charitable arms of terrorist organizations. At least one of those organizations has been tied to al Qaeda.

When a death fatwa was issued by top Iranian clerics on the head of Salman Rushdie, Islam said that he would turn Rushdie over to the Ayatollah Khomeini or his followers should the author show up on his doorstep. Islam later apologized but has continued his "peace work" by supporting Islamic charities with ties to radical groups and terrorist organizations.

Yusuf Islam has also been invited to perform at this year's Nobel Peace Prize ceremony.

However, if there is one redeeming aspect of Bakri Mohammed's conversation about Yusuf Islam it is this: the broader context is one of famous British Muslims who used to be true believers but who have taken to working too closely with the "kaffirs". The first British Muslim to be knighted, Lord Nazir Ahmed, is also mentioned as a Muslim who had sold out by compromising with the unbelievers.

But if Yusuf Islam used to associate himself with Bakri Mohammed and Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman then clearly his persona non grata status in the United States is justified. And if Islam has truly given money to the families of 'the mujahidin', then the claims by the two British papers sued by Cat Stevens are also correct.

Yusuf Mohammed owes us a pretty big explanation. Either Bakri Mohammed is lying (which would not be the first time) or Cat Stevens' past support of radical Islam goes much deeper than he has admitted. But what would Bakri Mohammed's motivation be if the claim was not true? Normally Bakri Mohammed's lies are in the direction of denying his support of terrorism.

Like many Muslims involved in charity work (thanks to Allah and Newyank for pointing this out), though, Cat Stevens may simply not know where his money is going. Which would say more about Islamic charities than about Islam's character. But Islam continues to openly support Hamas linked charities, has been arrested in Israel for this support, but---like many in the world--simply denies organizations such as Hamas are really 'terrorists'. See also CAIR's defense of Yusuf Islam here.

You can download the audio of Omar Bakri Mohammed tying Cat Stevens to terrorist activities here [right click and "save as"]. Alternative format available for downloading here.

For more on the various terrorist connections of Omar Bakri Mohammed and his followers, please see scroll down through our U.K. Terror and U.K. Terrorism archives, or here. For more video and audio of radical terror supporting Muslims in the U.K., please see Glen Jenvey's extensive archive here.

UPDATE: Some are now claiming that these accusations are either a) old or b) timed to coincide with the release of Stevens' new album or c) politically motivated since this website is on the Right.

A) As far as I can tell, this is a completely new set of allegations against Yusuf Islam. He has been accused (and arrested) for funding terror organizations, but I have never heard the specific allegation that he was intimated with Omar Bakri Mohammed & Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman. Also, this is the first time that I have heard that he had funded the families of the "mujahdin".

B) I did not know Cat Stevens had a new album coming out until I began working on this story and did a Google News search. Since the source of this information is Omar Bakri Mohammed, you'll have to ask him what the motivation was.

C) My motivation is no different than any other journalist's, namely the chance to break a big story. Certainly the information came to me because of my long time fight against terrorists and those that support them directly or indirectly. From that fight I became associated with Glen Jenvey.

But what does my motivation have to do with the veracity of the allegations made by Omar Bakri Mohammed? That Bakri Mohammed is a liar is not in doubt in my mind. But, as I have said before, the nature of those lies usually revolves around the his constant denials of being a terror supporter, when clearly he is. I have never heard of him lying about his association with other Muslims.

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1 It's possible that Steven's, like many Muslims and other citizens, gave money to charity that on the surface appear to be legit, but are actually front-companies for groups that directly fund AQ, the Hezbo's and Hamas.

It's also possible that Steven's had contact with what he thought were "moderate" Muslim clerics who were really preachers of hate.

Many of these so-called moderate Imams are simply good liars. They say one thing to your face, and a completely different thing to their Islamic followers. Islamo-fascists have mastered the art of double-speak. It's also what the Saudis practice with the West, and what the Iranian nutcase does when he speaks to the U.N. (In addition to praying for the coming of the twelfth Imam.)

I would give Steven's the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: newyank at November 11, 2006 07:39 PM (XT7OJ)

2 It's also possible that Cat Stevens, or whoever the hell he is, might just be a terrorist supporter. Most likely he his, in an indirect way.

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 11, 2006 09:07 PM (8PoNP)

3 This is way too plausible to be disregarded. Stevens is a Muslim cash cow and simple logic says that the radicals would figure a way to get some. Not only that, but he's bought into the religion which makes him an easy mark.

Posted by: Mike at November 11, 2006 09:37 PM (Dp/NK)

4 What you say about the deceptive clerics is true Newyank, but I will not give Yusef Islam the benefit of the doubt.
 
He's been a convert for a long time now, and I assume he does some reading on the subject of Islam in the West and the people with whom he consorts.  It takes about ten minutes to find the dirt on these slimeballs, so I do not buy any plea of ignorance.

Posted by: jan sobieski at November 11, 2006 09:53 PM (1YuGt)

5 Oh man ... he had such a nice life writing love songs to soft-porn actresses and the like. What went wrong?

Posted by: Steve M. at November 11, 2006 10:55 PM (qKpiY)

6 scumbag

Posted by: Last laugh Larry at November 11, 2006 11:22 PM (TmhhK)

7 You guys are so stupid it makes me laugh!!
Have you got nothing better to do...get a life!

If you had a brain between you, you would already know this useless piece of information and that all the other 'moderate' self proclaimed scum that call themselves Muslims (some of whom are now advisors to the British government) were all at it at one point.

Some of them probably still are ;-)

Have a nice day

Posted by: Exposer at November 12, 2006 01:04 AM (GMzYs)

8 Yes, I agree with "Exposer" that these accusations have been around for years. This nonsense is nothing new. It's strange how some of you hate all Muslims so much, but suddenly believe a radical (Barki) is telling the absolute truth.

Frankly, I think this "news" has suddenly been posted on all these conservative websites because Yusuf has a new album coming out Tuesday, and you want to spoil sales for him. You know, that is just nasty. How can you people spend your life hating so much. You hate what you don't understand. That is just sad.

BYW, "An Other Cup" is filled with gorgeous music. Even you people who are filled with hate for all things Islamic might like it and learn something from it. It's a secular album.

fyi, I am not Muslim.

Posted by: Annoyed at November 12, 2006 02:24 AM (vkBjL)

9 Annoyed: Yeah, gee whiz,  I was going to buy several copies of Cat's new album for friends and family this week (Christmas is just around the corner!) until I read this.
 
Not!

Posted by: YBP at November 12, 2006 06:46 AM (gVQMS)

10 If Cat Stevens, or Ysuf Islam, were legit then pray tell, with his
celebrity and his claim of simple charity, why hasn't he started a
separate and openly legitimate charity?  It's not as if he doesn't
have the "star quality" or the means it takes to embark on such an
adventure.  Instead, he uses plausible deniability to continue
support for "charities" undeniably tied to terror groups.  Much
like in many foundations, money is fungible.  Money given to one
branch simply frees up funds for  another more unseemly
cause.  Earmarking donations still isn't enough if one wants to be
clearly seen apart from such activity.

Posted by: Oyster at November 12, 2006 09:26 AM (YudAC)

11 Exposer: I'd take your sentiment to have a nice day seriously if I
thought you meant it.  Nonetheless, I shall have a GREAT day!



And "annoyed":  your accusation about trying to deflect album
sales, among your implication that your claim of "nonsense" is to be
construed as indisputable fact (You don't believe it so it's simply not
true?)  is completely baseless.  I hope you, or who ever buys
the album, enjoy it.  Just as I couldn't care less who bought the
Dixie Chicks' album or any other forms of music I may or may not find
to my liking, I am not so blindly accusational.

Posted by: Oyster at November 12, 2006 10:08 AM (YudAC)

12 Frankly, I think this "news" has suddenly been posted on all these conservative websites because Yusuf has a new album coming out Tuesday, and you want to spoil sales for him

"Annoyed" hit the snooze button, there is no real threat from Islam, go back to sleep. Conservatives just want to ruin his Album sales, financing terror is not a problem. sleep now.

Anyone else looking forward to when Europe wakes up?

Posted by: davec at November 12, 2006 10:11 AM (QkWqQ)

13 davec:  The sad thing is that it doesn't matter if you respond
with a request for these people to commit fornication with themselves
or respond with logic - they will in turn respond with outrage to the
former or simply ignore the latter.  So there's hardly any point
to it.

Posted by: Oyster at November 12, 2006 10:31 AM (YudAC)

14 Oyster:
Indeed, people wonder why I don't travel back home. I have no desire to visit Londonstan.

Posted by: davec at November 12, 2006 10:43 AM (QkWqQ)

15

Posted by: Anthony (Los Angeles) at November 12, 2006 11:02 AM (rHyJq)

16 (Sorry for the blank post above. My fingers betrayed me and hit enter, the traitors...)

Anyway, I just wanted to point out that the trackback link seems to be broken. I had wanted to post a trackback from my own blog, but clicking the "Sandcrawler Tracks" link returns an error.

As for Cat/Yusuf, there are Quislings in every war. And I never did like his music, anyway.

Posted by: Anthony (Los Angeles) at November 12, 2006 11:05 AM (rHyJq)

17 Is Omar Bakri the guy is interrogation President Bush announced on TV?

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at November 12, 2006 12:45 PM (1juA+)

18 Sorry, that was meant to read "Is Omar Barkri the guy whose interrogation President Bush announced at on TV?"

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at November 12, 2006 12:55 PM (1juA+)

19 Lol- yeah- we 'hate all Muslims' Bzzzzt- wrong answer- We hate being targets of Radical Islamics- plain and simple- Apologizing for people's support for terrorists like Steven's support I guess is the new rage these days. Let's see- I hate all Germans because of Hitler, I hate all Russinas because of Lenin- I hate all French because of Julia Child, I hate all ... blah blah blah- give it a rest- your accusations of us atre incorrect. IF Cat Stevens has connections with tterrorism- he needs to be exposed for it- Wrong is Wrong! and no matter how you paint it, it's STILL wrong!

Posted by: CottShop at November 12, 2006 01:54 PM (f8md8)

20 Negative @ that Garduneh, I'm not sure who President Bush was talking about on TV (maybe Khalid Sheik Muhammed?) Omar Bakri was the cleric that fled from the U.K (or was exiled?) after investigations into his radical Mosque which was attended by Richard Reid (shoe bomber) and Zacarias Moussaoui.

Posted by: davec at November 12, 2006 01:58 PM (QkWqQ)

21 ... cause out on the edge of darkness, there rides the peace train.

indeed.

Posted by: yo at November 12, 2006 02:19 PM (fkcf6)

22 @ davec:

I'm almost certain the President was talking about Khalid Sheikh Muhammed. After 2+ years, the guy is probably tapped out of useful information.

Posted by: Anthony (Los Angeles) at November 12, 2006 02:47 PM (rHyJq)

23 Thanks DaveC

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at November 12, 2006 04:15 PM (1juA+)

24 Why do you think that Stevens has released a new album? He has to raise money for the suspect charities and radical islam will allow him to sing for this reason/cause.
The man is as guilty as sin.

Posted by: marilyn at November 12, 2006 04:42 PM (cxX0y)

25 How does Yusef Islam still sing?  He's a Muslim.  They've banned music in some countries.  I suppose they let him release music records so that he can continue to support their terrorism.

Posted by: RepJ at November 12, 2006 08:28 PM (XXEg4)

26 I have a recording of a voice reputed to be that of Cat Stevens... starts "Our people are dying... I obtained it about 4 years ago from assam.com before it was taken off. It's called " Land of Islam" and...whilst I can't say whether it is Cat Stevens or not but...if it is there's not much doubt about where his loyalties lie. I'll try to attach it to this if I can.......Oh Can't see an attach facility?

Posted by: welsh witch at November 13, 2006 10:23 AM (SHWam)

27 In response to Mr. Oyster who posted without doing any proper research as a lot of people are doing:

"If Cat Stevens, or Ysuf Islam, were legit then pray tell, with his
celebrity and his claim of simple charity, why hasn't he started a
separate and openly legitimate charity"

He does have a charity Un registered charity called Small Kindness..

you show how you just fly off the handle and write comments without thinking about what you are doing. Sound like extremists yourselves in fact...

ba bye
david

Posted by: David Benn at November 13, 2006 11:28 AM (398Sm)

28 This is the link to the recording

http://www.walk-wales.org.uk/videos/landofislam.ram

Posted by: welsh witch at November 13, 2006 11:32 AM (SHWam)

29 My apologies i didn't post the web url for the charity SMALL KINDNESS...

http://www.smallkindness.org/

For those who aren't that web savy and find it difficult to do proper research and like to accuse and suspect and go over old old ground that has been proven incorrect

ba bye

david benn
not a muslim but certainly a cat fan

Posted by: David Benn at November 13, 2006 11:44 AM (398Sm)

30 Does the anger towards funding terrorists include irish americans who have supported and funded the i.r.a who are a terrorist group responsible for the deaths of irish and british citizens.Year after year the u.k government has asked the u.s to help to stop this flow of money and guns.The u.s governments response was to invite gerry adams and martin mcguiness-a self confessed i.r.a commander to the white house for a knees up and to this day refuse to extradite wanted i.r.a terrorist because-wait for it-they will not get a fair trial in the u.k. America ,you can't pick who is a terrorist,any body might think the u.s is ignorant,and believes they are only terrorists if they kill americans.

Posted by: mags at November 13, 2006 12:44 PM (gfdYr)

31 Does the anger towards funding terrorists include irish americans who have supported and funded the i.r.a who are a terrorist group responsible for the deaths of irish and british citizens.Year after year the u.k government has asked the u.s to help to stop this flow of money and guns.The u.s governments response was to invite gerry adams and martin mcguiness-a self confessed i.r.a commander to the white house for a knees up and to this day refuse to extradite wanted i.r.a terrorist because-wait for it-they will not get a fair trial in the u.k. America ,you can't pick who is a terrorist,any body might think the u.s is ignorant,and believes they are only terrorists if they kill americans.

Posted by: mags at November 13, 2006 12:44 PM (gfdYr)

32 Does the anger towards funding terrorists include irish americans who have supported and funded the i.r.a who are a terrorist group responsible for the deaths of irish and british citizens.Year after year the u.k government has asked the u.s to help to stop this flow of money and guns.The u.s governments response was to invite gerry adams and martin mcguiness-a self confessed i.r.a commander to the white house for a knees up and to this day refuse to extradite wanted i.r.a terrorist because-wait for it-they will not get a fair trial in the u.k. America ,you can't pick who is a terrorist,any body might think the u.s is ignorant,and believes they are only terrorists if they kill americans.

Posted by: mags at November 13, 2006 12:44 PM (gfdYr)

33 I agree with Annoyed. This whole thread REEKS of calculated sabotage. On the eve of Yusuf's biggest album release in decades... what, it's time to churn up old dirt? Pretty convenient. Pretty low. Pretty dirty. Pretty mean.

It should be common knowledge by now that yes, Yusuf Islam was *once* quite zealous in his faith, but doesn't everyone deserve the chance to change, without having old dirt kicked back in their faces over and over again?

I wish him all the best with his new release. And new direction in life.

Posted by: LD at November 13, 2006 04:48 PM (cCiqp)

34 Cat Stevens, or whatever he calls himself, is a has been musically. Who cares, and who even knew the guy had new music coming out? I didn't know, and didn't care.

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 13, 2006 06:12 PM (8PoNP)

35 This article makes a point of talking about funding "the mujahidin", but the US funded the hell out of the mujahidin with both money and arms for years. Then, after the Soviets left Afghanistan, the US forgot about the entire country - because they never really cared about Afghanistan in the first place - and the Taliban filled the vacuum.

WTF did you think was going to happen? Do you really think that CIA trained religious ideologues were just going to hang up their weapons? This is what blows me away about the right: Do you really think the world started on Sept 11? Do you think that your place in the world came about just because you worked really hard? No, you were lucky enough to have a ridiculous amount of natural resources available to you AND to not have neighbors invading you every few years. Then, using the wealth and strength that those things - and it was pure geographic luck that you even had them - gave you, you leveraged other nations covertly, militarily and/or politically to make sure that you held the upper hand and that other nations would never or even could ever be able to have a stable enough footing to have a say in their own future. Why? Because that would cost you money and, in the end, prevent you from "pimping your hummer". Put in different terms, you are so insistent on recklessly consuming as much as you can because That's The American Way, that you are willing to step on as many nations and peoples as it takes to do that.

Now you can't figure out why they hate you so much. Now you don't understand why they want to (and have been able to, on several disgusting occasions) kill you. In my eyes, nothing justifies the killing of another but for you to think that their terrorism has come about just because "they hate our freedom" is simple minded and ignores the militarism and interventionism that has characterized the United States' character nearly since it's inception. I will say it again, nothing justifies the killing of another, but there are plenty of people with plenty of reasons to hate you. An easy example of this is how Commodore Perry "opened trade" with Japan: it was under threat of bombardment. Every one is dirty here, you are just unwilling to look at your own transgressions.

This comment certainly has strayed from the topic of this article but, since it's my first and certainly my last visit to this site, I felt the need to address the general slant of this site and not just focus on the discussion of a has-been musician.

No matter what the hell happens to Cat god-damn Stevens, it's not going to fix your problems. No fence, no screening, no surveillance, no amount of torture, no war is going to fix your problems. Those things have never fixed anyone's problems in the history of mankind. What makes you think that they will now? Dare I mention that those methods were all used by Russia.

One last thing: The Jawa Report? Seriously, why get cute with your racism? Why not just stand up for your ignorance and call it The Dune Coon Report? The Sand Nigger Expose? That is what you're trying to say isn't it? Until I see consistent and equal moral outrage at the home grown, white murder and terror that your nation is capable of, ala the unibomber, Timothy McVeigh, and freakish, militaristic, white separatists, I can only assume that your anger and fear is nothing more than racist opportunism.

Thank you for your time.

Posted by: macacanadian at November 13, 2006 09:43 PM (o5mIB)

36 I am shcoked to see Bakri's words being taken
seriously. Perhaps the first time this has happened. Its like investigating the allegations of a retarded nutcase. And for your information the US government and the 2 British newspapers
have long since apologised. The US government have given him a new visa with no travel restrictions. Jack Straw of the British
government personally complained to Colin Powell.

Please give Yusuf a break. Syre he has made some mistakes like all of us.

Stop believing the lunatic Bakri.

Posted by: Tiaq at November 14, 2006 04:37 AM (b8EdG)

37 Cat stevens said during the rushdie affair he wanted to see rushdie burned thats on the record , he went on tv to support the fatwa I remember watching the programmes .So I think what bakri said is true, question is will this story get out or be covered over by the media

Posted by: jon at November 14, 2006 07:31 AM (od+mx)

38 Jon take a look at this FAQ section on his site:

http://www.mountainoflight.co.uk/talks_cw.html

He talks about the fatwa there.

peace
David

Posted by: David Benn at November 14, 2006 07:40 AM (398Sm)

39 David Benn, you've said bye bye twice.  You ovbviously didn't mean
it.  Thanks for the link.  I was indeed unaware that he had a
charity.  I happily recant my implication that he didn't. 
However, the rest of my commentary stands and yours does not address
the questions of what he called his own ignorance of the charities he
did indeed support in recent years who were linked to terrorism, his
public endorsement of Ayatollah Khomeini's death sentence for Salman
Rushdie and on his own website once I read about how pleased he was to
be so close to Shaikh Hamza Yusuf, a radical American Muslim.  His
activities and many associations with radicals since his conversion is
enough to approach him with much reservation.



In weighing the pros and cons on Stevens I'd have to say they did the
right thing refusing him entrance.  Stalin did a lot of evil
things, but he loved his dog too.

Posted by: Oyster at November 14, 2006 05:27 PM (UeUAE)

40 I got an email yesterday from iTunes plugging Cat Stevens' new album. I wrote them back and told them to quit supporting a man that supports terrorism and that helps kill Americans!
Wonder if Apple Computers will do anything about it?
Cause guess where the money from that CD will go?

Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro at November 14, 2006 09:55 PM (dSrQh)

41 The album is up from 100 to 8 in the Amazon Music chart. Not bad with all this hate around. Peace will prevail I guess, even if those who continously look for faults in others keep plugging away.

Oyster...saying ba bye doesn't mean that you are gone forever, grow up please. Get reading some more.

ba bye,
David

Posted by: David Benn at November 15, 2006 01:35 AM (iEBjJ)

42 Jennie, please get a life, you think you did a great thing sat in front of your computer.

The more and more I read here the more I see that you will never accept if a person changes, which in itself is a very arrogant position to take.

You can openly criticise me though, i'm not a significant person, i'm just like you guys insignificant.

david

Posted by: David Benn at November 15, 2006 01:37 AM (iEBjJ)

43 Some of us have chosen to fight this war in our pajamas, David.
Web warriors are as much as part of the war effort as the soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I believe Yusuf Islam changed, alright...into a jihadi IslamoNazi.
To believe that he's all about "peace" is naive and at this point in time, rather silly and stupid.

Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro at November 15, 2006 06:07 AM (dSrQh)

44 Ok Jennie,

So would you consider George Bush someone aiming for peace, purely? Or has he another agenda? Or are we only supposed to be suspious of one side?

The soldiers in Iraq and Afganistan are happily raping local women too, is that the spoils of war?

david

Posted by: David Benn at November 15, 2006 06:49 AM (398Sm)

45 A muslim is a muslim. Trust in Cat Stevens is stupid.

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Mizanur Rahman was found guilty of inciting racial hatred but acquitted of charges of inciting murder for his involvement at a rally protesting cartoon depictions of Mohammed in which he called for the killing of British soldiers, the murder of blasphemers, and prayed for 'another 9/11 all over Europe'.

The follower of exiled cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed was seen in front of the Danish embassy carrying a placard (depicted right) which said, "Behead those that insult Islam".

Report of the verdict here. I don't agree with laws that make it illegal to incite to hatred, but surely urging on your enemies in a time of war is sedition if not treason.

He will be sentenced at a later time. Here is some of what Mizanur Rahman's said at the rally. Prepare for the worst: more...

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Remember this guy on the right? The guy who held up placards at a protest in front of the Danish embassy calling for cartoon blasphemers to be beheaded?

His name is Mizanur Rahman and he's almost ashamed of advocating the sharia penalty of death for blasphemers.

The British press is reporting that he apologized to a British court today for advocating mass murder of apostates and blasphemers. But read what he really said.

He told the court: "I didn't think about what I was saying or the consequences..."

"I feel almost ashamed. I feel the words didn't make sense. I didn't think anyone would take me seriously."

And given the long tradition of killing blasphemers which goes back to Muhammed's time, how does advocating exactly what traditional sharia has long advocated 'not make sense'?

Just to make this clear, Mizanur Rahman is a follower of Omar Bakri Mohammed. One of Bakri Mohammed's websites publicly called for the execution of blasphemers. Rahman is a computer programmer. It is possible that Rahman himself is responsible for those internet calls for jihad.

More from the BBC today:

The Old Bailey heard police filmed him calling for planes to be shot down and the deaths of UK and US troops in Iraq.

Another story from one of the authors at Western Resistance tells us exactly what it was that Rahman said, which the BBC does not make very clear:

Mr Perry described placards which had been carried by Rahman, which bore the slogans: "Behead those who insult Islam" and "Annihilate those who insult Islam". Perry said: "Annihilate and behead are ordinary English words with the ordinary English meaning of kill. The prosecution say the meaning of those words is clear and unambiguous. Ordinary English words with the ordinary English meaning to kill."

"What he said was this - 'Oh Allah, we want to see another 9/11 in Iraq, another 9/11 in Denmark, another 9/11 in Spain, in France, all over Europe. Oh Allah, destroy all of them, Amen'."

The prosecutor claimed the 23-year old web designer had said: "Bomb, bomb France. Bomb, bomb France. Nuke, nuke France. Nuke, nuke France." Rahman had also urged "indiscriminate killing" of British troops in Iraq, the prosecutor said.

Rahman's speech, made on a megaphone, had included the statements: "We don't want to see them in Baghdad or in Iraq any more. We want to see them coming home in body bags. We want to see their blood running in the streets of Baghdad and Fallujah."

"We want to see the Mujahideen shoot down their planes like the way they shoot down birds. We want to see their tanks burnt, just like we burn their flags."

"We want to see their freedoms destroyed. We want to see all of them removed from Muslim land. Oh, Allah don't leave any of them alive in Iraq, don't leave any of them alive in Afghanistan, don't leave any of them standing in France."

Mr Rahman, who is married with a young child, told the court he had copied what some of the others had been saying when he was handed a megaphone.

He said placards he had carried calling for the beheading of people who insulted Islam had been handed to him.

"I didn't intend for anyone to be harmed or attacked, let alone to be killed," he said.

"The majority of this was a prayer. When I was given the mic, I didn't know what to say. I said what other people had said during the demo and what was on the placards.

"I was repeating what I heard in other speeches."

The court heard Mr Rahman had also called for "another 9/11 all over Europe". ....

It still doesn't explain his connection to the al Ghurabaa followers who organized the rally. And what about longing for another 9/11?

This story by Adrian Morgan is really the definitive word for those of you who haven't been following the controversy. Here's a taste: more...

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1 Two points
a) I'm GLAD that the worthless turd got taken to court
b) Al-BBC playing the apologist is most sickening

Dr. S.,
I've noticed a concerted and widespread effort by the IRI to infiltrate its apologists and sympathizers into Western media starting with al-BBC's Persian service all the way to CBS and al-CBC.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at November 06, 2006 03:09 PM (vixLB)

2 Wow! I wonder what he would do if he came to this site and read people
calling Mohammad a goat fucking, child raping, bacon eating faggot? I
might almost want to come close to feeling bad if that offended him.

Posted by: Randman at November 06, 2006 03:24 PM (Sal3J)

3 This is all you've got to show for 6 years of R controlled planet? Clear your throat and repeat after me:
Osama Bin Laden attacked us.

Osama Bin Laden attacked us.

Osama Bin Laden attacked us.

Osama Bin Laden attacked us.

Osama Bin Laden attacked us.

Osama Bin Laden attacked us.

Osama Bin Laden attacked us.
Now go vote.

Posted by: tbone at November 06, 2006 03:52 PM (HGqHt)

4 Good post. We have to make these kind of stories widely known. Mr. Rahman would love for this story to just disappear, but people have to know (since it isn't legal to kill these Islamic rodents on site yet) that here in the civilized world, you can't openly threaten to kill people and get away with it. The hipocracy of this whole thing makes me want to vomit. Any white supremicist group or KKK whoud be thrown under the jail for having placards like that, and rightly so. Why do these lowlife motherf'ers get away with it all over the world? 
Mr. Rahman: Fuck you and your "apology". I have a nice, shiny Hornady TAP for you. PLEASE pull that stunt here in the states.   

Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at November 06, 2006 03:59 PM (CtVG6)

5 What a load of B.S.  That douchenozzle is "almost ashamed" and ONLY because he got called on it by the authorities.  If he was never taken to court, I would put money on the fact that he would not be even close to feeling bad.

piece of shit.

Posted by: JeepThang at November 06, 2006 04:03 PM (yZQoS)

6 Jack, It is quite something to say you could teach the hateful a lesson in hate.

Posted by: tbone at November 06, 2006 04:06 PM (HGqHt)

7 tbone. It was a hypothetical on the required tolerance of free speech
in the West by our new immigrants. He can say whatever he wants if he
is not calling for violence and death and guess what.....I won't riot
or call for his death. Cool how that works eh?

Posted by: Randman at November 06, 2006 04:43 PM (Sal3J)

8 Thanks for attempting an explanation Randman. But next time you may want to look up what you are defending before you open your mouth.

Posted by: OBL at November 06, 2006 05:01 PM (HGqHt)

9 tbone: reciprocity is too big of a word for you to ever understand. So maybe you can get this: "An appeaser is one who feeds the alligator, hoping it will eat him last.
I am a peaceful man until tread upon.

Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at November 06, 2006 05:04 PM (CtVG6)

10

Jack's Dog-eared Thesaurus, Truly, my IQ stands impotent in the shadow of your massive and manly vocabulary. If I wash my hands, can... I...*gasp* touch it?

Posted by: tbone at November 06, 2006 05:17 PM (HGqHt)

11 I wish I could remember where I read it, but it was said that any group of Muslims in western countries will have more radicalized Muslims per capita within their ranks than you'll find in Middle Eastern countries. ....For what ever it's worth.

And tbone: so what are your feelings about, you know, the story? Or did you read it and yawn and decide it was more fun to go for the ad hominem approach toward other commenters?

Posted by: Oyster at November 06, 2006 05:39 PM (YudAC)

12 OBL.I am defending ammunition????? BTW...I don't open my mouth but wiggle my digits.

Posted by: Randman at November 06, 2006 05:54 PM (Sal3J)

13 My punishment for the UK fellow would be as follows: tattoo the words he so proudly displayed onto his forehead, then let him go anywhere 50 miles either north or south of London. He'd last maybe five minutes.
 

As a side note, Rusty, he was an HTML monkey, not a computer programmer. HTML is to programming what crayons are to fine art.

Posted by: Joe Public at November 06, 2006 07:01 PM (clEyP)

14 Typical muzzie cowardness. These turds aren't only the dumbest creatures walking the planet - they are the biggest pussies wasting air on earth.

Posted by: Max Power at November 06, 2006 09:23 PM (PM8kH)

15 See what happens when you take these sand rats out and teach them to use computers.  This asshole is not English nor are those like him. Mass deportations is the answer. Outlaw islam and deport those that practise it.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 06, 2006 11:08 PM (0AdXP)

16 And the scumbags who defend them.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 06, 2006 11:09 PM (0AdXP)

17 we need to just wipe out all muslims... even those little children who carry toy guns and recite death to the infidel poemns in school. the muslims f*cks are just producing more and more people who want to kill for there god. they want to kill inocent people for the sake of their god. their god is the devil in disguise... how can a man justify killing another man? how can a religion encourage people to kill anyone? so we must kill them first.... all of them. even the young. the only way to end this. otherwise it will get worse....

Posted by: hank at November 07, 2006 07:42 AM (pU0SG)

18 But...but...That would be using hate to teach a lesson in hate...right tbone? God forbid we hurt Muslim's feelings or (gasp) deport them in order to protect the lives of people who belong in this country and contribute to society! For shame! What you don't understand is that these people only respond to violence. Fight fire with fire, as they say. But you are waaaaay too spineless to ever lift a finger to defend your own country...so back to lame attempts at insulting my intelligence.

Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at November 07, 2006 11:08 AM (R+h5X)

19 Jack's Overblown Sense of Self-Importance - I'll lift one finger for you, racist.

Posted by: tbone at November 08, 2006 12:12 PM (HGqHt)

20 tbone, you are an idiot
 
 

Posted by: rob at November 09, 2006 11:01 AM (QpkBe)

21 Well Rob, I'm just devastated. Seriously. I'm not being sarcastic at all. You have shown some real insight into the soul of what must be to you a liberal pansy yada yada - whatever. Somebody calls threatening a guy with lethal ammunition for holding a sign, reciprocity and I'm an idiot for calling him a hypocrite. Then an idiot I be - at least I can type more than a three year old's argument. A little background and that threat seems to be coming from LE (to protect and serve and kill guys with signs?):
 
Hornady .223 TAP loads are a unique offering to Law Enforcement. They offer dramatically better terminal performance than any handgun cartridge, yet they do not demonstrate over penetration in ballistic gelatin testing. All four rounds defeat level IIIA ballistic body armor with little effect on the bullets' performance. The 75 grain bullet showed significantly better performance on glass than the lighter bullets, showing less deflection and better penetration after penetrating glass.

Posted by: tbone at November 09, 2006 01:39 PM (HGqHt)

22 A muslim tried to touch me in the public toilets today but when i pulled out my pork he ran away

Posted by: 10yearold at November 09, 2006 04:26 PM (jmGSE)

23 tbones waffle is now on ignore

Posted by: rob at November 10, 2006 10:58 AM (QpkBe)

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A guy e-mailed this vid of the various evildoer Islamofascists in London. Most of the video is of the followers of Omar Bakri Muhammed calling for sharia law and violent jihad. In it, he wonders why more arrests haven't been made.

Personally, I'm not a fan of laws against 'inciting racial hatred'. But I am in favor of prosecuting sedition in the context of war and of laws against inciting terrorism. After all, many of these same Bakri followers also are busy inciting terrorism and jihad against British civilians and soldiers. And one does have to wonder why, if these laws are on the books, they are so seldom used against radical Muslims?

But really anonymous e-mailer, you had me at The Clash.

PS--there were some arrests later. Although I do not know how many prosectuions.

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Mohammed Kamel Mostafa, the son of radical cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri, has been working in the London's Underground 'tube' system, the scene of the 7/7 terrorist bombings.

Mostafa has been convicted in Yemen on terrorism related charges and had publicly glorified suicide attacks in the past. His father, Abu Hamza al-Masri, is in jail for organizing violent jihad. Three of the 7/7 bombers were congregants at al-Masri's Finsburry Mosque.

Even worse? London's socialist mayor, Ken Livingston, has publicly defended Mostafa's right to work on the tube system. If that isn't the height of stupidity, I don't know what is. more...

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Terrorist orgnizer and Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri is appealing his conviction in the British courts. The one-eyed, hook-handed cleric was found guilty in February on 11 of 15 charges against him, including counts of soliciting murder, stirring racial hatred, possessing a terrorist document and possessing threatening or abusive recordings.

Some of his followers were heard shouting "God Bless You Sheik Hamza" as the cleric was taken away to begin serving his seven year sentence.

Now, the 'Sheikh', says he did not get a fair trial, that 9/11 had prejudiced the case against him, that an orchestrated media 'hate' campaign had tainted the case, and that he really isn't guilty.

Not guilty? Right. This is the man who was stung by a friend of ours, Glen Jenvey. Glen posed to Abu Hamza as a radical Muslim interested in recruiting for the jihad in Afghanistan. You know, a country in which the U.K. was actively fighting. I think that's called treason in most circles.

Hamza passed a number of materials to Glen in support of the jihad. Glen told Hamza the materials--such as videos of his speeches at the Finsbury Park mosque--would be used to recruit jihadis.

One of those videos sent to Glen by Hamza showed James Ujaama, who was later convicted of trying to organize a terror training camp in Oregon, sitting next to the Shiekh at the Finsburry mosque. Glen also tells me that Ujaama was found through the FBI following an IP track left at a false website set up by Glen in support of radical Islam.

So, not freakin guilty? Not a fair trial? Media hate campaign? Right Shiekh. It's the British media that is up to a 'hate campaign'. Abu Hamza openly preached to his followers that if British law failed to criminally prosecute homosexuals--as is required by Islamic law--then it was up to private Muslim citizens to punish gays.

In fact, the British authorities banned the public from knowing what Hamza actually said to his Finsburry Mosque followers. Another friend of ours, Neil Doyle, had his book banned in the U.K. during the Hamza trial because it contained quotes which might 'prejudice' the jury against the cleric.

Those quotes show Hamza praising Adolf Hitler for doing Allah's work in exterminating the Jews. Yeah, no hate there. more...

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Why would al Qaeda 3.0 target Britain? Large numbers of Asians of Pakistani origin in the U.K.

Guardian:

"They viewed 7/7 as just the beginning," said one senior source. "Al-Qaida sees the UK as a massive opportunity to cause loss of life and embarrassment to the authorities." A second source agreed: "Britain is sitting at the receiving end of an al-Qaida campaign."

Al Qaeda 3.0 does not need directions from Osama bin Laden. Self-motivated, self-sustaining, self-directed cells plan and carry out attacks. They only need inspiration, not direction, from the al Qaeda leadership.

And while the British authorities are busy denying it, it is clear that mosques and Islamic study groups are the source of these new home-grown cells. In fact, I would argue that many of the so-called moderate Muslim leaders in Britain are the inspiration for these jihadis.

While these moderates decry violence against the British government, many of them openly support sharia---only imposed through democratic means. Even more--in fact, probably the vast majority of Muslim clerics--describe British policies in the Middle East, North Africa, and Central Asia using descriptors such as genocide and mass murder.

The disenchanted mosque member cannot be blamed when he asks his Imam, "Why is it wrong to fight if what the British government is doing is genocide?". And to that, clerics have no coherent answers.

They are only taking the words of moderate Muslim leaders to their logical conclusion because moral beings should fight governments that commit genocide.

Allahpundit has the full story here as well as video.

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Notice that the police have gone out of their way to mention that security has been beefed up around churches and mosques, even though it is Muslims making all the violent threats. Fair and balanced and all that. Although, dare I say it, shouldn't they be really concerned about London's synogagues? Because, as we all know, the Pope is just a pawn of the J-O-Os.

But it is good to see that our good friend Anjem Choudary is now under investigation. I disagree with these draconian speech laws but I also want to see Choudary in jail. Call me inconsistent, its totally true in this case. I can live with that.

This is Local London:

POLICE are stepping up patrols outside the capital's churches and mosques amid fears of a backlash against comments made by the Pope.

Reassurance patrols by faith and neighbourhood teams, put in place at the weekend, will continue at both Catholic and Christian churches and mosques, a Metropolitan Police spokesman said....

The Metropolitan police has since launched an investigation into Sunday's demonstration after receiving 25 complaints from members of the public.

Some of them relate to the words of Anjem Choudary, former UK head of the controversial Islamic group Al-Mahajroun, who allegedly told the crowd: "Whoever insults the message of Mohammed is going to be subject to capital punishment."

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As suspected, it was followers of exiled cleric Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed who organized a rally yesterday outside of London's Westminster Cathederal calling for the death penalty for the Pope's blasphemy.

Here is the call for the protest on a password protected internet forum run by Omar Bakri Mohammed from exile in Lebanon where he directs his followers in Britain. Click the image for a larger view.

Several groups founded by Bakri Mohammed have been banned in Britain, including al Mujahiroun and al-Ghurabaa, but each time his followers simply rename the group and continue to preach the same hate and violence.

If that wasn't enough, our friend Glen Jenvey also recorded Bakri Mohammed's latest diatribe against the Pope. If you listen closely, and can get past the heavy accent, you can hear the Shiekh in one breath denouncing the Pope for saying that Islam is spread by the sword and in the next breath confirming that jihad is, in fact, violent and that Islam is, in fact, spread by the sword.

He then goes on and on saying that jihad is to institute a government where people are free to choose Islam, but an Islam based not on distortion etc. In other words, under a government of sharia where it is illegal to criticize Islam. When you criticize Islam, they cut your head off for that.

Right click to download Omar Bakri Mohammed calling for violent jihad against the Pope here.

As soon as I saw this picture of yesterday's protests....

....I knew that it was the same group that organized the anti-cartoon jihad in London. And it was Bakri Mohammed's followers who organized it and put out the call to....

UPDATE: Not surprised:

A notorious Muslim extremist told a demonstration in London yesterday that the Pope should face execution.

Anjem Choudary said those who insulted Islam would be "subject to capital punishment". Choudary's appeal for the death of Pope Benedict was the second time he has been linked with apparent incitement to murder within a year....

The 39-year-old lawyer organised demonstrations against the publication of cartoons of Mohammed in February in Denmark. Protesters carried placards declaring "Behead Those Who Insult Islam"....

"Whoever insults the message of Mohammed is going to be subject to capital punishment."

He added: "I am here have a peaceful demonstration. But there may be people in Italy or other parts of the world who would carry that out .

FYI--Anjem Choudary is head of The Society of Muslim Lawyers, which you may recall was one of the groups that organized an event in Birmingham mocking the victims of the 7/7 London bombings. Who organized that event? Followers of Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed.

Oh and Choudary was once the spokesperson for the now banned al Ghurabaa. So, under British law you cannot belong to al Ghurabaa since it has been banned, but its members can keep on doing and saying the exact same things?

Update via one of Allah's many links...and thanks to Michelle Malkin for the linky-love.

Update: Forgot to mention it was Slapstick Politics where the Allah's link took me. They have more on Choudary.

UPDATE: Video: Pipes on Muslims and the Pope. Expect more violence.

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British Muslims threaten the Pope, British blogger captures images of it after mass yesterday at Westminster Cathederal.

I just love the "Jesus will rise the sword of Islam" quote. It just has that all your messiahs are belong to us feel to it.

I'd bet 100 bucks that it was followers of Omar Bakri Mohammed who organized this.

Joee reports that the Islamists were chanting "Pope Benedict you will pay, the Mujhidin are coming your way" and "Pope Benedict watch your back". Definitely has that al Mujahiroun feel to it.

UPDATE: Confirmed. Bakri Mohammed followers organized protest calling for Pope's execution.

Charles Johnson has the video here.

One more picture. It's something to think about.

Go check out Joee's Blog for more, including one image which reads "Jesus is the slave of Allah."

Via Hyscience who got it from Dan Riehl, both of whom have interesting commentary.

Definitely don't miss Michelle's roundup of it here and the video version here. Don't piss off those Muslims, esse. Those guys are loco.

UPDATE: Apparantly it was the other members of the Pentavarite (think the ghost of the Colonel) who used their sock-puppet to disparage the religion of peace.

UPDATE: Video: Pipes on Muslims and the Pope. Expect more violence.

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1 Is it time to take off the gloves yet?

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at September 18, 2006 02:09 PM (vixLB)

2 'Jesus will raise the sword of Islam'???  That just sounds...gay.  Seriously, are they taking a swipe at the good Lord and Savior's mojo?  Because everybody knows Mary Magdaline was riding the J-Train, peace be upon him.

Posted by: shank at September 18, 2006 02:10 PM (+H1yK)

3 You know. These assholes should be arrested for threatening violence. They are a threat to the peace and dignity of the community they pull this shit in. That has to be against the law.
Where's the police. You sissies. Scared to do your job?

Posted by: greyrooster at September 18, 2006 02:47 PM (Ku/0k)

4 Exactly, Greyrooster, and what should happen after their arrest is a one way ticket to whatever shithole they are from, without passing go, and without collecting two hundred dollars.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 18, 2006 02:54 PM (rUyw4)

5 I'll take your bet.  These clowns are clearly member of the zionist Israeli-American conspiracy.  Everyone is!!!! 

Posted by: Editor at September 18, 2006 02:56 PM (adpJH)

6 Remember, folks, this is in Britain, where evidently the followers of Mo-hommad (Pork Be Upon Him) are a protected species.

Posted by: EricInTexas at September 18, 2006 02:58 PM (S6LwU)

7 Oh, I see - you've already accepted the zionist conspiracy.  Move along.

Posted by: Editor at September 18, 2006 02:59 PM (adpJH)

8 Again, Rome is a city, and the Pope is not I repeat not a resident, nor is he Italian. There has not been an Italian Pope since Paul died in 1980.
 
The Pope is the soveign ruler of the Vatican City. An independent country who has no military of it's own and depends on Switzerland for security. Well, there is the Italian military too.
 
Message to Allah, many Italians are Catholic and may take offense to people who threaten the Pope.
 
OMT: You don't see anyone holding signs like this in the USofA do you.

Posted by: SeeMonk at September 18, 2006 03:08 PM (7teJ9)

9 BTW All La Cosa Nostra is Italian and may take offense to threats made against the Pope. Then there are the Irish, a few million Americans, Russians, Spaniards, Germans, Africans, South Americans, Phillipines........

Posted by: SeeMonk at September 18, 2006 03:11 PM (7teJ9)

10 If I do not see the Pope in compassion training, I am not going too.

Posted by: Leatherneck at September 18, 2006 03:26 PM (D2g/j)

11 Yeah, SeeMonk, I saw a group of protesting Islamists in NYC a few weeks or perhaps months ago now, holding signs threatening Jews and saying that Islam was going to rule America. They also burned an American flag. So we have these Islamists here in the US also, and they will be getting more bold, especially if the Democrats win in November.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 18, 2006 04:00 PM (rUyw4)

12 Well, JJ, that just means they are going to be that much closer to "in range", if you get my drift...

Posted by: EricInTexas at September 18, 2006 04:34 PM (BCh4D)

13 I doubt we'll see much reaction from the world's Catholics Monk; the church has been in decline for so long that it no longer has the support of the kind of people who could protect it, nor the moral authority to call people to arms in its defense. The local diocese, for example, is heavily involved in socialist and anti-American activities, and is a major contributor to the illegal alien influx to this region. I spoke with one of the priests one day before a wedding, and he couldn't stop going on about how much he hated America and Americans - his words - because of its corruption and injustice, and that he much preferred Central America. I guess to him, death squads and crushing poverty are better than the land of milk and honey. I have a very, very low opinion of Catholics.
Regardless, this is all academic, because any organism that lacks the will to fight for its survival is destined for extinction. It's the law of the jungle; the strong survive, and the weak are killed and eaten, and islam is a tiger in a world of dodo birds. I personally don't look forward to converting to islam, but it would be worth it to stick around long enough to see the lefturds pay for their sins. Heck, who knows, islam does have some benefits, such as the multiple wives thing, and I already have sworn off pork for the most part for my health, so it might not be so bad after all, and come to think of it, it might be fun to keep a few liberal eunuchs around to wipe my feet on.

Posted by: Improbulus Maxmius at September 18, 2006 04:40 PM (v3I+x)

14 IM said, "Liberal eunuchs to wipe my feet on"=ROTFLMAO.............How do you tell the difference between liberals and eunuchs? That's just it, you can't!

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 18, 2006 04:49 PM (rUyw4)

15 How's it going ignorant mortals? Maybe someone should clear the air once and for all... If you ponchy pinheads know anything about Islam please let me know, cause your views really makes me sick to my stomach. But alas my dear prehistoric minded dimwits, I do however forgive the rest of the world and their pscycotic perception of Islam because the rest of us Muslims with half a brain agree that they are just as ignorant as you are. BTW ERICIN I like the pork be apon him one-liner(oringinal I might add... and no I'm not gonna curse you with mindless slogans of revenge). If any of you have half a brain you will see that the Quran promotes peace, love, forgiveness just as any other religion. It's just that these idiots think that by blowing up millions of people, think they I are doing God/Allah's work(yes it is the same thing believe it or not. The term Allah means God except that there aint no plural for the word, hence one God. Get it??).
Do me one favour pretty please... read the english translation of the Quran, and you will be pleasantly surprised to see that you cannot use terrorism and Islam in the same sentence. I shit you not! I'm not here to promote Islam or anything like that cause I never had the tongue for it. Just for God's sake call a terrorist a terrorist and a Muslim a Muslim. "If it looks like a giraffe it probably is one". I bid you swine eating human beings good bye now! CIAO!
And be good!
With lotsa love
An_Ass_Like_U

Posted by: John_the_revelator at September 18, 2006 05:07 PM (j+dDl)

16 Yeah that was a bit of redundancy on my part JJ.

Posted by: Improbulus Maxmius at September 18, 2006 05:19 PM (v3I+x)

17 John-the-moon god worshipper,

What religion calls for the destruction of the Pope? Israel? America? Mr. Bush? Britian? etc... You get the picture, don't you?

BTW, look up allah on the Internet. There are a few readings on a loving, and compassionate moon god.

I'll be grilling up some Brautts, and watching football, and having a few cold ones on Sunday. Would you like a Brautt?

Posted by: Leatherneck at September 18, 2006 05:38 PM (D2g/j)

18 Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing oh! John-the-wanna-be! Satan uses both faces!    ~oo<

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at September 18, 2006 05:51 PM (Dd86v)

19 Satan cares not which side is appealed to. Only that warm fresh blood is spilled!        0  /,,,      -<--- <

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at September 18, 2006 05:55 PM (Dd86v)

20 Hypocrits and apologists work best for Satan ...    '0'><~

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at September 18, 2006 05:59 PM (Dd86v)

21 Moon God??? WTF dude?? That is really sad. I ask you to read the Quran, not do a Google search.
If you read the darn post you would understand that death, destruction anarchy is not part of Islam. That was my point in the first place. Now you are insulting your own intelligence. Those extremists you are refering to don't follow Islam. Those are what you call mindless sheep.
How can a religion of peace promote violance???
Who gives a rats ass what the Pope or anyone else thinks about Islam. Stop seeing Islam as a religion whereby people in turbans run around and kill people I can assure you I'm not one of them. I'm more liberal than most.
A Brautt you say? Why the hell not, I'm in. I'll bring the women.

Posted by: John_the_revelator at September 18, 2006 06:04 PM (j+dDl)

22 Uh, John, look at the photos at the top of this post. Study what is going on in the World around you. There is an evil movement afoot, and it is Islam. You can read an English version of the Koran, which is not valid, I might add, since it is not in Arabic, and you won't find some of the things you might find in the Arabic version. But, nonetheless, Muslims who do not believe in jihad war are being tried all over the World as apostates, and many of them murdered. You need to open your eyes before a revelation in the form of a knife cuts your throat, or separates your head from your body.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 18, 2006 06:20 PM (rUyw4)

23 Islam conquering Rome. Ridicules. I just got back from there. Ain't gonna happen.
It was a stupid thing for the Pope to say, though. JPII, he's not.

Posted by: Greg at September 18, 2006 06:26 PM (PnoGS)

24 Isn't there something on the passport control cards one fills out on planes, trains and busses entering the states something about not coming to advocate the overthrow of the government?

Oh, sorry, Allah (pork chops be upon him) tells his followers that sometimes you just gotta lie about your faith for the advancement of the faith.

Howabout a choice between a nice ham sandwich and a refreshing glass of Mogen David?

Posted by: ktel at September 18, 2006 06:51 PM (/ksjf)

25 And here comes the traitor Greg to enter the conversation. I think I will just go ahead and puke now and get it over with.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 18, 2006 07:23 PM (rUyw4)

26 Greg why is it you ask people to read full writings on your theories but you will not read the entirety of the Popes speach? If you had, you would not have made that statement.
 
If it ever becomes stupid to extend a hand to your neighbor in peace we will all be doomed. It is the extremeists who do not want dialogue and peace who are whipping up this frenzy. I dare to say even the Pope himself underestimated the ignorance of the muslim masses.

Posted by: SeeMonk at September 18, 2006 07:39 PM (n4VvM)

27 SeeMonk, it would be damn near impossible to underestimate the ignorance of the Muslim masses.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 18, 2006 08:13 PM (rUyw4)

28 >>>Islam conquering Rome. Ridicules.

Conquer, no. Terrorize or nuke, yes. The Pope said nothing stupid. You're just parrotting your Lefty apologists for terror. Your heads in the sand will be the death of us all.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at September 18, 2006 08:58 PM (paKD6)

29 I enjoy Dr. level writings on subjects. They show depth, and for the most part realism. I really enjoy reading about Islam. If you read enough, you can tell who is closer to the truth.

Allah is a false moon god. If people want to worship allah, I won't cut your head off for it. But, I suggest looking into the gift the G-d of this world gave us out of Love. It is called Jesus Christ. He lived, died for us, and rose from the grave. He sits at the right hand of G-d the Father. His life was an example to all who live.

Believing in Christ does not mean you will be perfect. But, it is a lot better than worshipping a false god, which is satanic.

Posted by: Leatherneck at September 18, 2006 09:25 PM (D2g/j)

30 All Fall short of the Glory of God, .... whosoever believeth in Jesus Christ Son of God will not perish but will have everlasting life   ;-)

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at September 18, 2006 10:04 PM (Dd86v)

31 Aw come on Leatherneck, you got me up on my podium! ;-)

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at September 18, 2006 10:05 PM (Dd86v)

32 John the R. , Agreed there are millions out there not promoting violence. The problem is they are not promoting peace either. So the only promoting we hear are the Jihadists. Maybe you can point out the peace and loving bit in the Quran to them?

Posted by: Bas at September 19, 2006 08:22 AM (9gugI)

33 Again, Rome is a city, and the Pope is not I repeat not a resident, nor is he Italian. There has not been an Italian Pope since Paul died in 1980.

The Pope is the soveign ruler of the Vatican City. An independent country who has no military of it's own and depends on Switzerland for security. Well, there is the Italian military too.


written by seemonk....

In reply.
The UN was started under the Rome Statute and was initiated by the Pope to bring world peace. We have a world court now, it is the Rome Statute of the ICC. The last I checked there were over two hundred member countries, which is most of the entire so called free world. Even though The US and Israel are members of the UN they have not radified the Rome statute of the ICC and are no longer members. The meetings are held in Rome and the court is in the Netherlands where trials are always taking place. This "contract" is signed for seven years at a time by all member countries. It is the New Rome, thus the words "we will conquer Rome" and their meaning to Islam. With the world court in place, we now have a one world unity government (Rome). Read the Rome Statute of The International Criminal Court they are the laws written for countries who are members to the United Nations...and are subject to this highest court...(in fact this world court is the highest a court in the world can ever get) again, exceptions are US and Israel they are not ICC members any longer.

Posted by: hello kitty at September 19, 2006 08:33 AM (llKCm)

34 John the R, I have thoroughly read the Karan....and it is all in how you decipher what you read.

But what bothers me most was the statement yesterday made by extremist on the "Head Tax". Which is ordered in the Karan, Qur'an 9:29: If you study Islam closely you will see from the past....

The statement was...The group said Muslims would be victorious and addressed the pope as "the worshipper of the cross" saying "you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. ... We will break up the cross, spill the liquor (or wine) and impose head tax, then the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (killed by) the sword."


The "mark" or stigmata were two taxes imposed on non-Muslims. The 'kharaj' was a business and land tax imposed on the working ('right') hand; the 'jizya' was a poll tax imposed on the 'forehead.' Trading was forbidden by non-Muslims unless they had paid either the poll tax (assessed by the 'name' of their Faith) or the business tax (assessed by the 'number' of their business). Originally, the modest kharaj and jizya were intended as benign symbols of religious tolerance and as gentle encouragement to convert to Islam. Under the Umayyad and 'Abbasid Caliphs, the kharaj and jizya were radically transformed into sources of great personal wealth and were used as capital for imperial expansion.

The Caliph = 'O Kalleiph was discontinued in 1924 mainly due to Sunni and Shiite arguments on who the rightful Caliph should be, and with it the head tax was no longer used. Since then they have been trying to bring back to power a Caliph, but again shiite and sunni disagreements will not allow it, looking at the middle east, with Saddam gone and Hamas being beat badly the area is mostly shiite which could lay the ground for the new Caliph and "Head Tax".

Exactly where is peace in this and let us not forget freedom?....all I see is the extremist invoking fear and death in the name of religion and in their mind forced conversion so they can "save" you.

Posted by: hello kitty at September 19, 2006 08:55 AM (llKCm)

35 Improbulus Maxius is an ignorant anti-catholic. Who said that the Catholic church is in decline. The last time I did research on the subject, the Catholic Church had 2.2 Billion members world wide. In Nigeria the Catholics are fighting back and killing Mulims whenever they try to mess with them. As far as the Church conributing to the illegal influx, ask the people who hire them (Employers) and blame the right group for supporting these illegals. The Church only tries to protect them when they are already here.
We are not DODOs and will fight for the right to exist. You left wingers like to blame the Crusades for disturbing the peaceful Muslims, thus contributing to today's problems. You should do some research. If you did you would know that almost all of the mediterrean area was Christian before they were bruterly attacked and forced to convert to Islam. The Knights by and large were from Catholic countries they fought the Muslims and will fight them agaim. We stopped the Muslims in Spain, Western France, Eastern Europe, Malta, and many areas around the world. What have you done. I served 7 years in the US Army and will, as a Catholic fight them anywhere in the world.

Posted by: Fabian Fragiao at September 19, 2006 05:42 PM (NHBYN)

36 Time to give them a real scare time to drop some pigs in by parachute and make them run

Posted by: sandpiper at September 19, 2006 10:34 PM (uo3LX)

37 I would think in this day and age these signs would constitute terrorist threats...

And...funny how the protesters are the first to exercise their freedom of speech, to tell the Pople and the rest of the world they are not permitted to exercise the same freedom.

I'm generally liberal, but I'll tell you, I am one pissed off Catholic right now, and I'm finding it pretty easy to agree with some seriously right wing views. That's scary to even me!!

I for one am happy the Pope has not caved in and apologized for his words...rather, he's sorry about the reaction to them by people who have misinterpreted them. MC

Posted by: mc at September 20, 2006 07:42 AM (PslkW)

38 I meant Pope, not Pople!! :-) How do you edit??

Posted by: mc at September 20, 2006 07:46 AM (PslkW)

39

Moon God??? WTF dude?? That is really sad. I ask you to read the Quran, not do a Google search.

 
it true. Archealogoical evidence revelas allah to be a fake diety claimed into existence by a man with ellipisey (muhammad) and mood god from UR, babylon has a 95% positive match to allah thus revealing allah to be a fake copy.
 
 

How can a religion of peace promote violance???

 
have you EVER read the Quran?
 
it says "Kill of non-believers" IN Quran. That is NOT peacefull.
 
One of the verses most often quoted (2:191) seems to command Muslims to "slay them wherever you find them."  But who are "they?"  Is it any non-Muslim or "infidel?"  One merely needs to read the preceding verse to find the answer:  "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you... (2:190).  In subsequent verses, Muslims are called upon to fight.
 
That is NOT peacefull.
 
 

Posted by: Ebey S. at September 29, 2006 03:22 AM (eCV8j)

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Moon God??? WTF dude?? That is really sad. I ask you to read the Quran, not do a Google search.

 
 
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How can a religion of peace promote violance???

  
 
have you EVER read the Quran?   it says "Kill of non-believers" IN Quran. That is NOT peacefull.   One of the verses most often quoted (2:191) seems to command Muslims to "slay them wherever you find them."  But who are "they?"  Is it any non-Muslim or "infidel?"  One merely needs to read the preceding verse to find the answer:  "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you... (2:190).  In subsequent verses, Muslims are called upon to fight.  
 
That is NOT peacefull.    

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What, you mean a Muslim celebrates the deaths of Western infidels? I don't believe it for a minute!

I mean, that's an outrageous claim.

And although the Sun calls this an exclusive, it's not. The Jawa Report had it first, only I thought the more important part of the tape was that Bakri was jailed and set free, was sad about the arrest of Abu Abdullah, had been questioned about the failed airline plot, and knew those involved in raising money for terror in Britian.....but this part is also interesting:

HATE preacher Omar Bakri claimed 14 British servicemen died in revenge for 14 terror arrests in London.

The sick exiled cleric gloated to followers that he was “so happy” at the RAF Nimrod crash in Afghanistan on September 2 which killed everyone on board....

“Allah has his own soldiers and I was so happy. I was just thanking Allah

Thanks to Glen Jenvey for the tip.

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The backlash is just so terrible. Rantburg:

Around 35 percent of travellers in London said they had felt nervous or uncomfortable in the last year because of someone with a south Asian or north African appearance on an underground train or bus. Of that number, nearly half said they had moved seats or sat down away from them

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It's not just that they urge appeasement, they let go unchecked lie after lie about what al Qaeda really wants. It's beyond disgusting. See the video of the BBC urging appeasement here.

British tax money at work lying about al Qaeda and urging appeasement. The ghost of Neville Chamberlain haunts the halls of the Beebs.

Update: Ace being, well, Ace:

So let me get this straight: We are to do everything Osama bin Ladin demands of us, in hopes that this will placate him, but that's not appeasement?

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Shiekh Omar Bakri Mohammed, the exiled British Muslim cleric, was detained by Lebanese police last week and then released after passing a bribe. He was questioned about his possible involvement with the foiled sky terror plot. Bakri denied any involvement.

In a conversation last night between al-Muhajiroun followers in Britain and Bakri in Lebanon, Omar Barki Muhammed related details of his detainment in Lebanon. Bakri claimed that the Lebanese authorities detained him at the request of the British or Americans.

The conversation was one of many secretly recorded by Glen Jenvey.

Bakri Mohammed claims that he was shown pictures of suspects in the plot to blow up American bound airplanes by the Lebanese authorities questioning him. He admitted to them that he had met some of the alleged plotters, but claims he did not know them by name.

Pakistan has arrested what it calls the leader of the sky-terror plot, a 25 year old Birmingham man named Rashid Rauf. Rauf is a member of Omar Bakri Mohammed's now banned al-Muhajiroun group.

Bakri was also asked by his al-Muhajiroun followers about jihad training and recruitment at the Jameah Islameah School. Bakri indicated that he knew the school's owner, Balil Patel. Bakri seemed to be pleased that the Patel was not among those arrested.

The conversation also turned to Abu Abdullah. Abu Abdullah, an assistant to jailed cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri at the Finsbury Park mosque, is now among the 14 men arrested in London on suspicion of involvement in terrorist recruiting and training centered around the school.

In last night's conversation, Bakri Mohammed can be heard praying for Abu Abdullah's release from prison and his al-Muhajiroun followers repeating the wish or saying ameen (amen).

In previous conversations secretly recorded by Jenvey between the exiled cleric and British al-Muhajiroun followers, Shiekh Omar Bakri Mohammed has raised funds for the 'mujahidin'.

Bakri Mohammed also claims that he was released after a bribe was given to the Lebanese authorities detaining him. He also believed that this bribe would keep him immune from further arrests.

Three al Muhajiroun members were arrested in Manchester last night on suspicions of plotting an assassination. While British police would not clarify who was the target of the assassination plot, it seems clear that Tony Blair was the intended victim.

The three are all described as of being Asians of Pakistani heritage and in their mid to late 20s.

If you would like to e-mail Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, and personally ask him about his connection to British terror plots, Glen tells me that you can reach him at obmuk@hotmail.com.

Developing......

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Abu Abdullah, Abu Hamza al-Masri #2 man at the Finsbury Park mosque, is now among the 14 men arrested in London on suspicion of involvement in terrorist recruiting.

Allah has a great video of Abu Abdullah here as well as some more on the jihadi training camp in Britain.

Times Online:

A FORMER henchman of Abu Hamza al-Masri is among the 14 men arrested in London on suspicion of involvement in terrorist recruiting.

Abu Abdullah, 42, assumed the leadership of the Supporters of Shariah group when Abu Hamza, the former imam of Finsbury Park mosque, was arrested in May 2004.

Check out these ironical videos of Abdullah below in front of the Finsubry mosque. Here's a guy who publicly calls for jihad, calls terrorists martyrs, and yet who has the balls to decry the stereotype of Muslims as terrorists.

And here's a bunch of clips of Abu Abdullah blaming--get this--Bush, Rumsfield, the Illuminati and the Freemasons, Nixon, Reagan, and the anti-Christ, for a plot against Islam. He also can be heard talking about ritual child sacrifice of children by this same group of Republicans and devil worshippers. more...

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Muslims are always whining about backlash, yet we see no evidence of increased acts of violence against Muslims in the West. What we do seem to be seeing is increasing violence by Muslims against Jews.

Times Online:

BRITISH Jews are facing a wave of anti-Semitic attacks prompted by Israel’s conflict with Hezbollah in Lebanon. Synagogues have been daubed with graffiti, Jewish leaders have had hate-mail and ordinary people have been subjected to insults and vandalism.

On Thursday an all-party parliamentary inquiry will state that anti-Semitic violence has become endemic in Britain, both on the streets and university campuses. The report will call for urgent action from the Government, the police and educational establishments.

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Someone at The New Republic seems to think so, as cited by the UK's Telegraph. I couldn't find the original article, so if you come across it please e-mail me the link.

But the gist of it seems to be that there are so many radical Muslims in the UK, and because it is much easier for a British citizen to enter the US than, say, a Pakistani, then that is where our weakest point is.

We have much to fear from Islamists living in Europe and the UK. This morning I have been listening in to a secretly taped conversation one prominent UK cleric was having with his followers last week. Scary does not even begin to describe what these people preach to their audiences when they think nobody is watching.

Telegraph:

Britain now presents a greater security threat to the United States than Iran or Iraq, an American magazine said yesterday.

In an article on Islamists headlined "Kashmir on the Thames", the New Republic painted Britain's Muslim communities as a breeding ground for violent extremism.

Citing recent opinion poll evidence suggesting that one in four British Muslims believed that last year's London Tube bombings were justified, the magazine said: "In the wake of this month's high-profile arrests, it can now be argued that the biggest threat to US security emanates not from Iran or Iraq or Afghanistan, but rather from Great Britain, our closest ally."

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1 A a Brit I am Saddened by this story yet I know it is true

Posted by: toplad at August 29, 2006 09:44 AM (Qrc3q)

2 Very sad, indeed.

Posted by: Jihad Rusty Dirka Dirka at August 29, 2006 09:49 AM (JQjhA)

3 Hell, Detroit contains a bigger threat to us than London, because there are over a quarter million muslims there. Wherever there are muslims, there is a threat to civilization. The only way to deal with them is to get rid of them - one way or another.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 29, 2006 10:00 AM (v3I+x)

4 Wouldn't Canada be the source of the biggest potential threat? Apparently and especially Eastern Canada. The muslims have a prominant voice in the more urban and populous centers like Quebec and Montreal. Don't forget how easy it is to cross into the US from Canada.

Posted by: SeeMonk at August 29, 2006 11:18 AM (1E0XU)

5 Second the nomination for Canada.

Add Pakistan. All these crazies in the UK and Canada all put in the customary trip to paki as part of their plans.

Just stop flights to and from that country. Let them sweat a little for jihad. We keep making their quest easier.

Posted by: Fred Fry at August 29, 2006 12:03 PM (JXdhy)

6 A few days ago we pardoned some poor guys that were accused of desertion in WW1 and executed, in fact they had shell shock and were not cowards.

So if we can shoot our very own soldiers that were brave and patriotic why are these traitors even still alive.

They are traitors therefore should be shot, Al Qaeda have said that the Queen is a target, so anyone involved with Al Qaeda must by extension want to kill the queen, so again I ask why are the vermin still alive, wasting our public money on giving them a trial is a F*ckin joke. Shoot em, let allah sort them out.

Me, I would prefer they were hung, drawn and quartered and then stick their heads on a pole outside parliament just like Cromwell's. These people are no less treasonous than him, they are trying to bring down the monarchy and the government. Some examples need to be made of them.

As it goes if they do attack the royal family then the shit will really hit the fan here, sad thing is that it might take that kind of attack to get the pricks here to wake up.

Posted by: Dave Clarke at August 29, 2006 12:48 PM (8ZIo4)

7 Personally, I would be more concerned with France, whose population, legal and illegal, is reported to be 1/4 Muslim, or at least from predominately Muslim countries. They are poor, aren't happy with the socialist agenda in taking care of them, have little job opportunity, and have shown a penchant for rioting, as witnessed earlier in the year (or was that last year?)
 
Combine people with nothing to lose and radical Islam, dangerous mix.

Posted by: William Teach at August 29, 2006 02:08 PM (IRsCk)

8 Always the little job opportunity thing. They came to Europe for job opportunities. If there aren't any, then do the right thing and send them back.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 29, 2006 03:57 PM (BInc2)

9 The US could do the UK a favour by putting pressure on it to better police its muslim communities.

The UK has too many leftards in power who have run the country into the mess it is in today. I get so pissed off when I think that my grandparents fought in WWII for Britain, only to have it overrun by muslim vermin who are no better than the nazis.
I can't recall many middle eastern regiments fighting the nazi threat, yet they want to infest the free Europe of today that many shed blood for.

Posted by: Jester at August 29, 2006 05:18 PM (TuAMG)

10 Britain is like third, or fourth. The United States government is first. They let all the moon god worshippers in here. The government gave control of the money to the Federal Reserve.

Let's see, 12 million illegal aliens, hospitals closing because we take care of Mexico's poor, white trash poor on welfare, blacks who do not want to work, but want to get fat, teaching children it is OK for men to marry, abortion as a form of birth control, keeping oil as our only real form of energy, etc... You get the idea.

Posted by: Leatherneck at August 29, 2006 05:21 PM (D2g/j)

11 Tell it like it is Jester.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 29, 2006 05:32 PM (BInc2)

12 It's not just Britain, but the Muslims in all the countries of the West that are a danger to us, including a large number here in the US. The difference, most Muslims know people in the US are armed and ready for their bullshit, especially if something would happen in the Red States. I wouldn't want to be a Muslim in a Red State if a major attack occurred. Not this time.

Posted by: jesusland joe at August 29, 2006 05:56 PM (rUyw4)

13

George Galloway went to Lebanon and praised hezbollah for the crap they pulled, and called them the winner. Jester has a great point. However, until the free world can shed itself of the swoon it has found itself under, muslims will continue to somehow remain free from account for their actions.

Sometimes I wish the Pope would bitch slap somone just to see how the MSM would portray it. BTW I am Catholic, and be floored if the that ever happened. However, Koffi Annon would be my first choice as recipient of the beyotch salap of the week.

Posted by: SeeMonk at August 29, 2006 09:00 PM (n4VvM)

14 I just ripped this off from a defunct website. Not to use, I just liked the way it sounds.
 
"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it." ~VOLTAIRE

Posted by: SeeMonk at August 29, 2006 09:13 PM (n4VvM)

15 Well now that the UK is being run by crinimals becuase of rediclous gun control and knife bans they have gone too far liberal

Posted by: sandpiper at August 29, 2006 10:29 PM (4v/PL)

16 UK out of control? How about us. I still believe Bernard Getz to be a hero and look what happened to him.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 30, 2006 08:34 AM (WmiLs)

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11 British Muslims have been charged with crimes related to a plot to blow up multiple airplanes bound for the U.S. 11 more remain in custody, charges may be forthcoming. Scroll to the end for the actual charges.

The Crown Prosecution Service has this press release:

Susan Hemming, Head of the CPS Counter Terrorism Division, today made the following statement in relation to an alleged plot to detonate explosives on board aircraft:

"I was briefed in relation to these allegations before the arrest and asked to advise on some preliminary legal issues both before and just after arrest. Together with another senior CPS lawyer, I have been working with the police full time at New Scotland Yard for the last eight days. We have been carefully examining and assessing the evidence against each individual with the assistance of anti terrorist officers in order to come to charging decisions at the earliest practicable opportunity.

"This morning I made a decision that there was sufficient evidence and authorised, with the approval of the Director of Public Prosecutions, the charge of 11 individuals.

"Eight individuals have been charged with two offences relating to an alleged plot to manufacture and smuggle the component parts of improvised explosive devices onto aircraft and assemble and detonate them on board. Those individuals have been charged with conspiracy to murder and the new offence of preparing acts of terrorism contrary to Section 5 of the Terrorism Act 2006.

"In addition, three have been charged with other offences under the Terrorism Act 2000. One has been charged with possession of articles useful to a person preparing an act of terrorism and two with failing to disclose information of material assistance in preventing an act of terrorism. One woman has been released from custody without charge.

"I would like to remind you of the need to take care in reporting the events surrounding this alleged plot. These individuals are only accused of these offences and they have a right to a fair trial. It is extremely important that there should be responsible media reporting which should not prejudice the due process of law.

"Finally, 11 other individuals are still in custody and remain under active investigation. Their position is being assessed on a regular basis with a view to considering the need to keep them in detention. We cannot yet make a decision about whether further charges will follow or if a further application for detention will be made on Wednesday as the evidential picture is continuously developing. Any such application would be made by a Crown Prosecutor to a High Court Judge in accordance with the new legislation."

Meanwhile, in the UK, Muslim clerics continue to call for jihad against the West. See-Dub has related.

Here are the actual charges: more...

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It's not exactly news, but Drudge is running the headline as if it were. We've been reporting for awhile that at least two martyr-suicide tapes were found. Perhaps the 'news' is that more than two were found?

BBC:

Police investigating an alleged plot to bring down airliners have found several martyrdom videos in the course of their searches, the BBC has learned.

An unofficial police source said the recordings - discovered on laptop computers - appear to have been made by some of the suspects being questioned.

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British sources are beginning to confirm suspicions first raised by The Jawa Report that the failed UK terror plot was linked to exiled cleric Shiekh Omar Bakri Mohammed.

On August 10th a source in the UK told The Jawa Report that followers of Omar Bakri were almost certainly involved in the failed mass-murder plot. Followers of the jailed cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri were also implicated. Both of the radical clerics preach a message supporting the imposition of Islamic law and an Islamic empire and many of their followers travel in the same circles.

The Syrian born Omar Bakri Mohammed has been the leader of several British Musllim organizations, which many claim have ties to al Qaeda. Three of them have been banned in the UK. They are Al-Muhajiroun, al-Ghurabaa and the Saved Sect.

The British government considers Bakri persona non grata and he now resides in Lebanon.

The Jawa Report can independently confirm that despite Bakri's exile, he still has a large following and continues to direct the activities of radical Muslims in Britain. Bakri also continues to raise money from British Muslims which he claims are for the help of the mujahidin--or, holy warriors.

The Guardian:

Intelligence sources in Pakistan have linked Rashid Rauf, 25, the Birmingham man being held in Pakistan and alleged to be at the centre of the plot, to members of al-Muhajiroun in the UK.

Bakri's followers in Birmingham are known as The Saved Sect. Some time ago we revealed that members of The Saved Sect were using The Birmingham Grid for learning, a publicly funded education establishment operated by the Birmingham City Council, to spread their Islamist hate propaganda.

In July, members of al Ghurabaa & The Saved Sect gathered in a Birmingham community center and openly mocked victims of the 7/7 London tube bombings.

The Jawa Report had led an unsuccessful campaign to shut down The Saved Sect's website in July. Shortly after the British government foiled the terror plot the website was down.

Birmingham was one of several locations where police arrested suspects involved in the plot.

More connections from The Guardian:

Waltham Forest council banned the extremist group al-Ghurabaa from holding clandestine meetings at premises within walking distance of the homes of several terror suspects arrested last week, the Guardian has learned

Al-Ghurabaa booked the council-owned community hall in Walthamstow on two occasions, but gave false information about the purpose of the events. One of the planned meetings, in February at Waltham Forest Asian Centre, was to plan protests against the Danish cartoons bearing images of the prophet.

The Jawa Report also noted at that time that al Ghurabaa's own website openly advocating killing any person who blasphemed Mohammed.

More:

It was claimed the hall would be used to celebrate the festival of Eid. The local authority cancelled the meeting on police advice when it was found the meeting was to discuss the creation of an Islamic state in Britain. Flyers publicising the meeting depicted a man standing next to 10 Downing Street holding a rocket-launcher.

The Islamic Thinkers Society of New York has organized protests in the past in which they shouted "next time we will get all of NYC" and have publicly desecrated the American flag. The group's website once openly advocated the imposition of Sharia law in the US, but has recently added password protection.

Bakri has sometimes claimed to be the spokesman of the political wing of the International Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders, led by Osama bin Laden. At other times, Bakri has denied and distanced himself from the military wing of the organization, al Qaeda.

Expect more updates and confirmations in the coming days.

UPDATE: C/T blog has related info, Goldstein questions the timing, and Ace on the ever present "Sullie" connection.

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State sponsored terrorism in Britain? Yes. The British government funds Islamic groups on university campuses which, in turn, preach jihad. And, as The Jawa Report first revealed, links between the foiled terror plot and exiled cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed have begun to be uncovered.

The Australian:

Waheed Zaman, 22, a biochemistry student and president of the Islamic Society at London Metropolitan University, was one of those arrested when British authorities foiled an alleged attempt to blow up planes over the Atlantic.

As London's Daily Telegraph reports, buildings on university land set aside as a prayer room and library contained a stash of handy materials for those interested in plotting mass murder. There were pamphlets preaching jihad, instructions on how to deal with security services and cassette tapes produced by al-Muhajiroun, the terrorist body once headed by Omar Bakri Mohammed, now living in exile in Lebanon.

Security sources suggested that several of those arrested are suspected of having links with universities. And when you think about it, setting up jihad school on campus makes perfect sense. It's just the latest manifestation of the tolerant West inadvertently funding its own destruction.

Welcomed by British authorities with promises of tolerance, asylum and welfare cheques, chaps such as Bakri Mohammed openly preached the West's destruction. When sleepy British authorities finally woke up, these Islamo-fascists were duly turfed out of mosques. Then the jihad leaders went on recruitment drives in the sprawling markets of east London, using loudspeakers to preach their hate: "Now is the time for jihad." Told to move on, they have discovered that universities are the ideal place to recruit more potential killers.

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1 Wake up and smell the Kofi! I'll leave the rest for Maxie! He knows how to say it best!  ;-)

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 15, 2006 01:35 PM (gLMre)

2 Why don't we buy BP out of gas by switching to BP only? BP is supposedly one of a couple producers of petrolium products that does not use OPEC or as I like to call it, blood oil. We can make the statement to the world if by no other method, via boycott. I purchase my gas from BP and Marathon stations. BP is the cheapest around here anyway. I am not sure where Marathon oil comes from. I was told they are a British company as well.

Posted by: SeeMonk at August 15, 2006 01:39 PM (7teJ9)

3 Say NO to BLOOD OIL!

Posted by: SeeMonk at August 15, 2006 01:40 PM (7teJ9)

4 And just think of all the ypug terrorists in training at YALE

Posted by: sandpiper at August 15, 2006 02:25 PM (aoHRB)

5 We are having trouble with Asian youths. What?

Posted by: Leatherneck at August 15, 2006 04:23 PM (D2g/j)

6 The lefturds infiltrated Western schools long ago, and have been using them as their reproductive centers ever since, so why should anyone be surprised when the 'slamoturds do it?

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 15, 2006 04:55 PM (v3I+x)

7 The problem with switching to a different energy and boycotting is that it doesn't solve the problem of China, Russia, South America, North Korea gobling up all the oil and making Mad Hatter more rich. And then when things come to a boil, which is going to work better, oil or alcohol? Like which would you rather use to cut through steel? An acetylene torch, or a propane torch? 

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 15, 2006 05:16 PM (gLMre)

8 What will we do when the shit hits the fan and that supply is gone? We need to live like it is already gone. Stop feeding Chavez and madbadboobyjob our money.
 
You had more people strike against France yet Iran is our real enemy and Chavez thinks we are his. Yet every day we send them hundreds of millions of dollars. Not Bahts or pesos or whatever the hell they use for currency.
 
I will not buy excuses. Truth is, everyone who is too busy to be bothered is aiding the enemy. If 2 cents off a gallon of gas is more important than the future of your families, what does that say to our enemies?

Posted by: SeeMonk at August 15, 2006 05:38 PM (n4VvM)

9 I say things will come to a head and we will be forced to park our SUVs while the government filters every drop into the insuing battle. Wake up and smell the crude!     :>(   O0O0o0o0

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 15, 2006 08:30 PM (gLMre)

10 Seemonk -

That "supply" is well er - actually enormous beyond your imagination. Its rather fascinating how the calculations and definitions are done for "proven reserves". It is rarely known to the general populations anywhere. It explains the fact why there really is little sense of urgency beyond talk.

The "shit hitting the fan" issue is actually a pricing issue - and pricing is a bizzare game complicated by the fact that soooo much of the world's oil is owned and controlled by governments and their entities.

Oddly enough, the country getting poised to become the next oil producing mega-giant in the next few decades is .... Venezula.

There's a story here that will blow you away ... the info is out there just waiting to be turned into an incredible book.

Posted by: hondo at August 15, 2006 09:50 PM (XrexX)

11 And the greyrooster continues to scream ACADEMIC MEATHEADS.
They are not true conservatives. One cannot be a conservative and a believe in the rainbow coalition.

Lelturds have not just infiltrated our educational system. They are the educational system. Even if they don't know it.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 16, 2006 11:42 AM (vCjBd)

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George Galloway: Is there a terrorist he doesn't support?

Explosives recoverd from Boston flight? Maybe, but skeptical.

Pregnant woman arrested in terror plot.

Vid: half a million Brits belong the the Fifth Column

Terror trail runs through *shock* Pakistan.

Terror suspects named.

Not related, but important: Taliban murders mother and child for delivering laundry. Via Professor Chaos.

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Posted by: Bill Faith at August 11, 2006 02:36 PM (n7SaI)

2 I like the white trash Brittany video better.

Posted by: Cmunk at August 11, 2006 02:48 PM (7teJ9)

3 We also have some schmuck hosting a video of Galloway being interviewed by SkyNews on the Israeli/Lebanese conflict and the comments are completely insane. They think Galloway is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I guess when their not perusing this idiot's site, they're masturbating to Kos.

Posted by: Oyster at August 11, 2006 02:49 PM (cc4fT)

4 Oyster, I bet you will look good in a burka? I'm getting my mirror on the shoe ready for when the moon god worshippers take over, and make women were those burkas.

Posted by: Leatherneck at August 11, 2006 03:43 PM (D2g/j)

5 from Haywood's distant cousin babagahaywood:
 
I ain't seen my wife's face since they came here
they make her wear a scarf on her head that covers her up from ear to ear
she loves the desert and the hot white sand
but man, she's just like me. Naw, she can't stand

the Taleban

Posted by: haywood jablowmi at August 11, 2006 04:05 PM (VUmVc)

6 When did we lose our moral clarity, and start tolerating treason as a right? The whole world should get to see Galloway and his ilk shit themselves on the gallows.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 11, 2006 05:30 PM (v3I+x)

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Maxie, shame on you, wanting Georgie Boy to "shite" himself at the gallows. I think his shit would come much earlier, my friend.

Posted by: jesusland joe at August 11, 2006 06:46 PM (rUyw4)

8 From the photos of arab women I've seen thus far, I think there is only one place you want to be looking at.    ;>

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 11, 2006 07:49 PM (gLMre)

9 I'd pay a dollar to see it, JJ.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 11, 2006 09:15 PM (v3I+x)

10 Hell, Maxie, I'd pay more than a dollar to be involved in it. Haha!

Posted by: jesusland joe at August 11, 2006 09:52 PM (rUyw4)

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Sources in the U.K. have informed The Jawa Report that suspects in today's terror arrests are linked to exiled cleric Shiekh Omar Bakri Mohammed.

24 people have been arrested so far in the plot to set off explosive devices on up to 10 airplanes. At least 5 suspects are still at large in the terror plot which has been described as in the final stages of planning.

ABC radio claims that at least 2 of those suspects had made martyrdom videos.

Three suspects have been named by The Blotter as Rashid Rauf, Mohammed al-Ghandra, and Ahmed al Khan.

Hot Air, PJM, and Drudge are reporting new developments.

Glen Jenvey, a member of the London based terrorist watch group Vigil, believes that there is sufficient evidence to conclude that those involved in the plot are linked to Bakri.

Just last month intelligence supplied by Vigil to the British government led to the banning of organizations linked to Bakri.

Jenvey also indicates that some of the plotters may be linked to Abu Hamza. Jenvey's testimony was instrumental in the conviction of the radical cleric.

The Jawa Report cannot confirm the extent to Bakri or Hamza's involvement.

Developing.........

The Syrian born Omar Bakri Mohammed was the leader of several Salafist organizations which many claim have ties to al Qaeda. In July, two splinter groups from Bakri's orignal Al-Muhajiroun organization were banned by the British government.

The Jawa Report, with the help of a British ISP, was instrumental in the removal of the Bakri linked al Ghurabaa website.

Bakri has sometimes claimed to be the spokesman of the political wing of the International Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders, led by Osama bin Laden. At other times, Bakri has denied and distanced himself from the military wing of the organization, al Qaeda.

After he was told by the British government that his presence was "not conducive to the public good", Bakri fled to Lebanon. Recently, Bakri was denied entry into to the U.K. when he tried to flee the war torn country.

Tapes made by Vigil record Bakri answering questions to followers on what he thought was a secret password protected forum. Bakri can be heard on the tape making a religious ruling that it was permitted for Muslims to attack civilian targets such as airports.

Bakri has also made statements justifying the killing of British soldiers by British Muslims in Iraq.

Other secret recordings reveal the transfer of money from London to Bakri in exile to be used for "the mujahidin".

While the organizations with formal ties to Bakri have been outlawed in Britain, dozens of offshoots have grown in their place.

One of Bakri's followers can be seen in the photo above. Developing.......

The suspects in today's foiled plot have been described as homegrown terrrorists and are said to be the children of Pakistani immigrants.

UPDATE: From a recent Times Online article on declassified documents which are being displayed at the British Library:

Another document, written by an FBI agent before the attacks on New York and Washington, accuses Omar Bakri Mohammed, the radical preacher now barred from Britain, of sending his Al-Muhajiroun supporters to flight training schools in America.

UPDATE II: Raid in Birmingham. Why is that important? Bakri has a cell called The Saved Sect centered in Birmingham.

Raids were carried out at homes in London, the nearby town of High Wycombe and in Birmingham, in central England.

"Ibrahim didn't do nothing wrong," Ghafoor said, referring to a suspect. "He played football. He goes to the mosque. He's a nice guy."

Extremists accused the Government of fabricating the extent of the threat. Anjem Choudary, the right-hand man to the cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed, said that the arrest of 24 suspects was a “baseless attack” on British Muslims that was designed to scare the public.

Mr Choudary said that he did not believe that a plan to commit “mass murder” had been foiled. “I think this is another case of whipping the public into a frenzy over terrorism with very flimsy evidence.”

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1 Where are the signs that say "behead those that embrace islam"?

Posted by: greyrooster at August 10, 2006 03:45 PM (X99fp)

2 Good question rooster. Man, the U.K needs an Islamic enema.

Posted by: Jacks Smirking Revenge at August 10, 2006 04:08 PM (CtVG6)

3 Good to see you Rooster.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 05:55 PM (v3I+x)

4 Where are all the cry babies letting everyone know how unread the religion of peace is? As soon as I write a few lines about how Islam holds these rallies of hate, some lefturd will show up, and call me a racist.

Posted by: Leatherneck at August 10, 2006 06:01 PM (8uWFo)

5 Islam is a religion of peace.............

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/stupidity

Posted by: Rusty at August 10, 2006 06:07 PM (x+8Rs)

6 Fox News just reported hundreds of Israeli troops are pulling out of Lebanon

Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 06:13 PM (n4VvM)

7 Possible cease fire as soon as tomorrow

Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 06:16 PM (n4VvM)

8 Who blinked?

Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 06:18 PM (n4VvM)

9 Hezbollah may be firing rockets into Israel even as they pull back. Nothing confirmed yet. If it is true, then it will be obvious what needs to be done more so now than ever before.

Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 06:27 PM (n4VvM)

10 At what point does the UK need to start mass deportations? If not now, then when? Does The West have the stomach to protect itself anymore? I guess we'll find out pretty quickly here.

Posted by: Richard H. at August 10, 2006 06:47 PM (7KF8r)

11 I hope the 20 or so vermin captured are sent to the US. I fear British justice may be too soft on them (too many muslims in positions of power in the UK).

Posted by: Jester at August 10, 2006 06:51 PM (TuAMG)

12 Deportations need to happen. Richard H. is right on.

The charismatic leaders must be killed. It's the only way to render them mute. The anti-social criminals must be punished and then deported. And mosques used for the planning and preparation of Jihad must be seized in the same way that property used for drug dealing is seized.

Posted by: Pangloss at August 10, 2006 07:30 PM (RWfP+)

13 The stupid thing about the UK is they actually teach Islam in schools as part of religious education (and it's mandatory). To me it is as bad as teaching communism or fascism as it is just another form of evil.
The morons who made up this policy also advocate strongly for equal rights for women. Hello? Islam = oppression for women (and anyone who thinks allah is just another dictator).

Posted by: Jester at August 10, 2006 07:36 PM (TuAMG)

14 It's very simple, people. We will have to do the same thing the Spanish did after the Reconquista if the West is to survive. I have my doubts as of now, but I'm pretty sure the terrorists will succeed one of these days, and perhaps the death of 50,000 or so people will change some attitudes, but I'm not betting on it, mind you.

Posted by: jesusland joe at August 10, 2006 07:37 PM (rUyw4)

15 Where are the pictures of the terrorists they caught this morning?

Posted by: Leatherneck at August 10, 2006 07:39 PM (D2g/j)

16 Isn't this the same whiner who asked for a UK rescue from Lebanon and then squealed for more attacks when the Brits ignored him?

Posted by: DANEgerus at August 10, 2006 07:53 PM (J8yxJ)

17 Brits have strict censorship laws about any case that wll be taken to trial.  Don't expect pics until all of the perps are apprehended and expect the Brits to be tightlipped.

In fact, most of what we know about the plot comes from FBI statements, and not the Brits.

Posted by: Rusty at August 10, 2006 07:55 PM (x+8Rs)

18 In the next few days this will begin to unravel and the
whole thing will be a sting operation or a hoax.Remember
the 7 retards in a wharehouse(miami)?

Posted by: david at August 10, 2006 07:56 PM (Qd6ws)

19 Wikipedia:
 
It has also been proposed that the reconquista left the Iberian kingdoms with deep economic crises, leading to the expulsion of the Jews (who had lived in the Iberian Peninsula for over ten centuries) in order to confiscate their funds and property. It should be noted however that the Portuguese Reconquista ended in 1257 and that the Spanish and Portuguese kingdoms were already profiting from their maritime expansion before the Jews were expelled.

Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 08:05 PM (n4VvM)

20 david, I don't expect you to know the difference between a hoax and the real thing, given that you can't spell "warehouse."

Fetch me a juice box. Make it orange.

Posted by: michaelt at August 10, 2006 08:05 PM (7BX4K)

21 The proximity of this thwarted attack and the "Egypt 11" going AWOL raises some concerns in my mind.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at August 10, 2006 08:30 PM (Bp6wV)

22 Maybe David's trying to spell "whorehouse." Works for me...

Posted by: Bugler at August 10, 2006 08:36 PM (oKQob)

23 Michaelt uses poor grammar. Perhaps he should be more careful; he is living in a glass house and all.

Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 09:01 PM (n4VvM)

24 Warehouse,whorehouse,whatever...there will be another
attack like 9-11,possibly even nuclear,and Bush will declare martial law,gut whats left of the constitution,
and your freedoms will be gone.welcome to the brave new world.

Posted by: david at August 10, 2006 10:38 PM (Qd6ws)

25 david - Congrats!

Dumbest Post of the Year Nominee!

Posted by: Barney Coppersmith at August 10, 2006 10:44 PM (dpUkO)

26 GM, I was thinking the same thing. I find it hard not to believe they're related.

Posted by: Richard H. at August 10, 2006 10:47 PM (7KF8r)

27 Very Orwellian, but, Bush does not have that power. We have three equal branches of government. An, we have The People.
 
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
 
Only, and I mean Only, The People of the United States of America have this power.
 
 

Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 10:52 PM (n4VvM)

28 Barney, I second that motion.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 11:19 PM (v3I+x)

29 Actually, when the British didn't execute this guy or see to it that he was Wellstoned, I knew it would result in the deaths of at least hundreds of westerners.

My company wanted me back in the USA later this month so I'd have been taking one of those flights.

This is one of the reasons why I don't like liberals.

Posted by: Jack Sanderson at August 11, 2006 01:24 AM (Uv0t6)

30 Actually, when the British didn't execute this guy or see to it that he died somehow, I knew it would result in the deaths of at least hundreds of westerners.

My company wanted me back in the USA later this month so I'd have been taking one of those flights.

This is one of the reasons why I don't like liberals.

Posted by: Jack Sanderson at August 11, 2006 01:25 AM (Uv0t6)

31 Actually, when the British didn't execute this guy or see to it that he died somehow, I knew it would result in the deaths of at least hundreds of westerners.

My company wanted me back in the USA later this month so I'd have been taking one of those flights.

This is one of the reasons why I don't like liberals.

Posted by: Jack Sanderson at August 11, 2006 01:25 AM (Uv0t6)

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Posted by: Bill Faith at August 11, 2006 04:26 AM (n7SaI)

34 Listen to the howls of comdenmation from the muslim scums "community leaders",did you hear it? no? quite right , you are not going deaf ,plain fact is there were not any,meerly condemnation of heavy handed police action and a conspiracy by the administration to whip up public hostility toward those "peaceful muslims.Ok folks this time forget cattle trucks,let us use instead CONTAINERS,thousands can be packed into just one,doors sealed ,loaded on board ship and deposited over the side in the deepest part of the atlantic trench.

Posted by: R CROSS at August 11, 2006 07:04 AM (pU0Ty)

35 David: Shame on you. I mean having a good Jewish name like David we would have expected better of you.

Two 20 year old muslims from Dearborn, Mich. arrested with $11,000 in cash, dozens of disposable cell phones purchased
at Wal-mart and Radio Shack. Maps of Wal-Mart locations in the US and connections to an suspected terrorist on FBI list.

Their attorney says that if their names were Smith they never would have been arrested. Their family in traditional muslims dress shown crying for them in court.

These are the same cell phones that pop up in Iraq and used to detonate IEDs. Wonder if their families were crying for all the American soldiers killed with IEDs?

Will we ever learn? Why are these animals in the USA?
Who is still stupid enough to think we should allow middle easterner's and muslim in our land.

OUTLAW ISLAM and start deporting these animals now.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 11, 2006 08:45 AM (AG5IC)

36 What is lost in all of this is we did not start this way. Islam has been declaring war on the US since the 70's and 80's. We just didn't really take them seriously. Until 1990, we were too busy fighting communism. B ut, now that communism is no long as big of a threat, we know who is next in line for the big stick.
 
So stop bitching CAIR, and bend over.

Posted by: Cmunk at August 11, 2006 09:41 AM (7teJ9)

37 This is slightly OT, but worth stating for those who might not see things as they are.

Jews, per capita, are disproportionally responsible for developing technology to make the lives of every person on the planet easier, better, healthier, and longer.
Muslims, per capita, are disproportionally responsible for using technology, which they are incapable of developing, to make the lives of every person on the planet harder, more miserable, and shorter.

Jews are capable of living in any society without creating strife.
Musims are incapable of living without strife even among their own kind.

Conservatives support Israel and believe in capitalism.
Liberals oppose Israel and believe in socialism.

Conservatives believe in Enlightenment ideals as expressed in the U.S. Constitution.
Liberals believe in Marxist ideals, as expressed in the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital.

Conservatives believe in individual rights such as freedom of thought, expression, and self defense, expressed best in the concept of self-determination.
Liberals believe that people have to be told what to do, and that the power of the police state should enforce the consensus, which is formed by those in power.

Conservatives believe in small government, accountable to the people.
Liberals believe in big government, accountable to none.

Conservatives are mostly Christians.
Liberals are mostly anti-Christian.

Jews want to trade with everyone.
Muslims want to enslave or kill everyone.

Conservatives and Jews get along just fine.
Liberals and muslims get along just fine.

Conservatives support wars of liberation to free people from tyranny.
Libeals support wars of "revolution", which enslave people to tyranny.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 11, 2006 10:50 AM (v3I+x)

38 Sounds almost like a George Carlin skit.

Posted by: Cmunk at August 11, 2006 11:12 AM (7teJ9)

39 My ultra-lame site had 114 hits yesterday. That is an all-time record! I am trying to imagine what it would be like if it was really any good?

Posted by: Cmunk at August 11, 2006 12:02 PM (7teJ9)

40 Hey Guys, This "Bakri" isn't he the guy who was deported to Lebanon and who tried to be evacuated by the British Navy??
Well, I hope he won't be authorized to come back to England

Posted by: IMB at August 11, 2006 12:41 PM (8TmK3)

41 114 eh? You must be getting that mad blog money by now.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 11, 2006 02:15 PM (v3I+x)

42 It's crazy IM, had to send my old lady to the store so the feds won't catch on.

Posted by: Cmunk at August 11, 2006 03:38 PM (7teJ9)

43 114 hits and 112 say fuck you asshole.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 11, 2006 10:07 PM (AG5IC)

44 I like it. Colorful layout. Interesting articles. That's the first blog I've strayed to from TJR except for Michelle Malkin. I go to her site anytime! Anyhow, rack up another hit.

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 11, 2006 10:20 PM (gLMre)

45 cmunk is trying you old cout!

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Bush's statement today on the UK terror plot:

The recent arrests that our fellow citizens are now learning about are a stark reminder that this nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation.

UPDATE : LGF noticed it, too. Michelle notes that "he got the 'I'-word in there."

Clarity & Resolve predicts that we should expect "a reaction from [CAIR] on Mr. Bush's clear observation."

Lefties like Pam Spaulding aren't buying it: "...is it possible Uncle Karl's rolling out his political game plan overseas now? Sure. Dear Leader, of course, is beating his chest on cue for the sheeple..."

Chris Floyd worries that this is a distraction from Lebanon, lamenting that "Bushists Blather While Lebanon Burns". Floyd cites an article by Juan Cole and invites readers to "...see the illustrations of the kind of 'Islamic fascists' being killed and despoiled with American weaponry even as we speak"

UPDATE 2 :Sure, enough, CAIR has issued a statement:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Muslim groups criticized President George W. Bush on Thursday for calling a foiled plot to blow up airplanes part of a "war with Islamic fascists," saying the term could inflame anti-Muslim tensions. . . .

"We believe this is an ill-advised term and we believe that it is counter-productive to associate Islam or Muslims with fascism," said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations advocacy group.

"We ought to take advantage of these incidents to make sure that we do not start a religious war against Islam and Muslims," he told a news conference in Washington.

LGF asks "The question now, of course, is: will Bush be politically compelled to issue a “clarification?"

James Joyner at Outside the Beltway and several other commenters note that Bush has used the similar terms "Islamic radicalism" "militant jihadism" and "Islamo-fascism" previously, for example:

Some call this evil Islamic radicalism; others, militant Jihadism; still others, Islamo-fascism. Whatever we choose to call this enemy, we must recognize that this ideology is very different from the tenets of the great religion of Islam.

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Nordish IMs me about the latest freak show on display at Downing Street. What do Communists, Palestinians, hippies, and terror supporters have in common anyway? Oh yeah, they all hate the West.

Funny how none of them move to the socialist paradise of Moldova, Palestinian controlled Gaza, or Hezbollah-land in Southern Beirut. Not sure where the hippies would move....

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