. It's truly sickening. In it, the speaker makes fun of Korean hostage Kim Sun-Il, murdered by
. The audience
.
I saw the video of Kim Sun-Il being murdered. Anyone who laughs at it, should be dead or in jail. I'm truly sickened.
A new video of British Muslims at a 7/7 conference shows just how big a problem the West has with a fifth column of terror supporters among us. In the video, a Jamaican born immigrant named Trevor Brooks--introduced as Abu Izadeen-- takes the microphone and goes off on an hour-long rant about how Britain can avoid another 7/7 attack.
Although the video has been taken down from the website run by British followers of Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, thanks to Dominic Whiteman and other members (who wish to remain anonymos at this time) from a secret London based organization called Vigil, The Jawa Report has obtained a copy of the video. Video can be seen here.
The video is shot at a Birmingham community center on July 2, 2006. The video was released on the internet on 7/7, in order to coincide with the anniversary of the London bombings. Interestingly enough, The Jawa Report had previously tracked down followers of the now exiled radical cleric Omar Bakri Muhammed to The Birmingham Grid for Learning, which is owned and operated by the City of Birmingham.
Does the City of Birmingham know that its public facilities are being used by members of The Saved Sect, al Ghurabaa, the Society of Muslim Lawyers, and other spin-off groups from the now banned al Mujahiroun group to spread hate, extremism, and support for terrorism?
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Birmingham, I was avoiding travel to that city as early as 1995, most of my friends avoided it too.
Posted by: davec at July 10, 2006 04:09 PM (voZp6)
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It saddens me to see how the British are simply rolling over and letting these Islamic insects/squatters move in and take over their country. They have some serious Islamic problems in the U.K. that will only become tangible in the form of another bomb placed on a subway, airplane, taxi, etc. Wake up people! The British media is also another huge problem. They are worse than ours because there isn't a legitimate Blog class in the U.K. The people get their only news from a media that has its head up its ass or in the clouds-I haven't figured out which. Those people are seriously misinformed. The Brits need to open their eyes and react before what happened in France (as if anyone cares) happens to them.
Posted by: Jacks Smirking Revenge at July 10, 2006 04:21 PM (CtVG6)
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The U.K is being shaped, and coerced into a multi cultural, politically correct society by its Government.
When you find your own countries flag threating to 'diversity' and then the church wishes to change the patron saint [George] because it's considered to be offensive to Muslims, you've in trouble.
The U.K is ashamed of it's imperial past, and has gone to great lengths to apologize for it, ignoring the strengths that once made it great, and appearing weak to the immigrants in their midst is not helping its case.
Posted by: davec at July 10, 2006 04:42 PM (voZp6)
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"Those people get their only news from a MEDIA that has its head up its ass or in the clouds-I haven't figured out which."
Sorry-I forgot a sleazy, tabloid MEDIA whose most reliable source for news is about as legitimate as the National Inquirer is here in the states.
Posted by: Jacks Smirking Revenge at July 10, 2006 04:42 PM (CtVG6)
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"Those people get their only news from a MEDIA that has its head up its ass or in the clouds-I haven't figured out which."
Sorry-I forgot a sleazy, tabloid MEDIA whose most reliable source for news is about as legitimate as the National Inquirer is here in the states.
Posted by: Jacks Smirking Revenge at July 10, 2006 04:46 PM (CtVG6)
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It's funn how in different parts of the world, different angles are highlighted. It makes all kinds to make a bunch, remember the normals amongst us are the mainstay of society. We're just not radical enough to get on TV. The one's you posted are indeed a black spot on us, but then we have a future to be proud of...
These Muslim kids are a welcome sight:
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/d...tentPK=14866249
Pupils at Nottingham's only Muslim school made banners condemning terrorist activities on the anniversary of the London bombings.
Around 120 youngsters at the Islamia School in Hyson Green held up the posters while observing yesterday's two-minute silence.
They banners read 'Muslims against terrorists', 'Murderers are not martyrs' and 'Islam means peace'.
The pupils also prayed for the victims of the 7/7 atrocities and sang a nasheed, or Islamic hymn.
Deputy head Sajidah Munir said: "We talked to pupils about how upset and aggrieved everyone was about the bombings.
"We also talked about how some people have this perception that Muslims are terrorists and what we can do about it."
He added: "The children said they would like to make their feelings known by creating their own posters.
"We made a prayer for people who passed away and for people who lost loved ones.
"The majority of Muslims in this country were born here. We feel for people in this country."
Eleven-year-old pupil Aqdas Aslam, from Radford, said: "I felt very sad and upset that people could have done this evil thing.
"The terrorists have hurt and killed many people in my country. It was a crime against humanity."
Meanwhile, three Muslim men from the city travelled to London to attend the tributes in the capital wearing matching T-shirts bearing the slogan 'Beat terrorism'.
They stopped to speak to some of those laying flowers and giving out wrist bands bearing the date of last year's atrocities.
Suhail Butt, an IT worker originally from Nottingham and now living in Manchester, said what they were doing was raising awareness.
He said that whilst they had had some "funny looks" while travelling on the Tube, he and his friends, Kaisar Altaf and Zahid Iqbal, both from Nottingham, thought it was important to show their solidarity with those remembering the attacks.
The trio said that the visit was a repeat of the one they made to the capital two months after the attacks and that they had so far raised £1,500 for the Red Cross and Unicef.
The anniversary of the July 7 bombings, which killed 52 people in the capital, was marked by a two-minute silence at noon.
Adrian Johnson, 37, from Sutton-in-Ashfield, and Stan Brewster, 52, from Swanwick, in Derbyshire, were among the victims of the four blasts.
Posted by: Asim Aquil at July 10, 2006 04:47 PM (bFpCL)
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More examples of moon god worship.
Posted by: Leatherneck at July 10, 2006 04:53 PM (8uWFo)
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More examples of moon god worship.
Posted by: Leatherneck at July 10, 2006 04:55 PM (8uWFo)
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Most muslims are "against" terrorism, but never fail to qualify their statement that it's Bush's fault, or Tony Blair's fault, or the Joooos's fault. Sick.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at July 10, 2006 04:56 PM (8e/V4)
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All good news Asim, I only wish I could believe that any muslims were sincere, but I know all about taqiyyah, the islamic religious doctrine that sanctions lying for the advancement of islam. I will never believe that there are any muslims anywhere who are anything but enemies of civilization. If humanity is to progress further, then islam must be eradicated like the plague it is, along with the rats that carry it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 10, 2006 04:56 PM (v3I+x)
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More examples of moon god worship.
Posted by: Leatherneck at July 10, 2006 04:57 PM (8uWFo)
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Hyson Green eh? do they cry when they see the Hookers?
Wasn't some of the 7/7 bombers from outside Nottingham, Beeston?
I am glad at least some are putting out statements condemning terrorism, if more Muslim schools and religious institutions did it, it would help the case of the true moderates, because the terrorists right now seem to the ones talking the loudest.
Posted by: davec at July 10, 2006 04:58 PM (voZp6)
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ship them all back home and vote BNP !!!
Posted by: rob at July 10, 2006 05:15 PM (QpkBe)
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I thought you should know that Al Qaeda in Iraq has shown the video of the two beheaded soldiers. I hope you haven't eaten because it is disturbing. I almost vomited.
Posted by: George Ramos at July 10, 2006 05:19 PM (CnDtU)
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To Jack's Smirking Revenge: In response to:
"It saddens me to see how the British are simply rolling over and letting these Islamic insects/ squatters move in and take over their country."
If you read the above article you can clearly see that the Brits are not rolling over AT ALL. Moreover, it's British spies who downed terrorists like Ujaama in the US by infiltrating international terror groups and conning evidence off them to ensure convictions. Just because we don't boast in public doesn't mean we can't boast the socks off you in private! Shoulder to shoulder - you need us just as we need you - and together we'll have these "insects" (just another form of Nazi vermin) yet.
Posted by: John Bull at July 10, 2006 05:26 PM (jBuWy)
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John Bull, unless you have long hair, and big tits, don't stand so close. Now, we can have a pint.
Posted by: Leatherneck at July 10, 2006 05:36 PM (D2g/j)
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An Israeli professor and military historian hinted that Israel could avenge the holocaust by annihilating millions of Germans and other Europeans.
Speaking during an interview which was published in Jerusalem Friday, Professor Martin Van Crevel said Israel had the capability of hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons.
"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets of our air force."
Wake up.
Posted by: Greg at July 10, 2006 05:37 PM (q5wwn)
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to be fair about the comment about it was british spies who brought down people like james ujaama, as the person who brought down ujaama and abu hamza i can confirm it was not british spies who i worked with or for but american and common wealth country spies. british mi5 and police were forced by american action in new york to take action.
The Spy and The Terrorist: The Real Story
Glen Jenvey is the real-life hero who nailed terror chief Abu Hamza. The would-be James Bond tricked the hook-handed hate cleric into handing over the video tapes which brought about his downfall last week. Gravel-voiced Jenvey posed as a fellow terrorist supporter who wanted to bring death and destruction to Britain. Jenvey even set up a website praising Al Qaeda to lure the Finsbury Park hate preacher into his trap. The sophisticated sting led to jail for Britain’s public enemy number 1 after his crucial evidence set off a chain reaction of events around the world.
It gave FBI investigators - who already saw Hamza as a British Bin Laden - enough proof to jail one of his American disciples for setting up a terror base in the US.
The tapes showing Hamza preaching hate side-by-side with Taliban supporter James Ujaama persuaded the American to plead guilty to terror charges.
Until then, Ujaama had always claimed he never met Hamza or even knew who he was. But with the threat of a 25-year sentence, the American provided hundreds of pages of testimony against Hamza in return for just two years in jail.
That forced British police to arrest Hamza after US prosecutors asked for him to be extradited - and led to the seizure of the race hate tapes used against him at the Old Bailey.
Jenvey, 40, said: “I’m glad that I’ve helped get him jailed because I could see he was truly evil from the start. I was asked to sign a statement saying I was willing to give evidence in the US when I was interviewed by the anti-terror squad back in 2003.
“But the tapes have obviously been damning enough to put him away here.â€
Those tapes reveal the pair at a metting at Finsbury Park Mosque calling for a Islamic revolution. (world-wide against arab governments).
“I hated him for what he was doing, so I suppose it was a bit of crusade against Hamza.
“I’d spied on people before - bizarre as it sounds - as a bit of a hobby, because I was interested in it. And I suppose I fancied myself as a bit of a spy.
“Hamza came to my attention after Al Qaeda blew up the USS Cole in 2000 and Muslim terrorists came to much greater prominance.
“I’d been looking into the Tamil Tigers in London for years and grew to loathe all terrorists.
“But Hamza struck me as being worse than them, just like Hitler who he praised in his videos.
“That’s why I was determined to bring him down.â€
Jenvey, who lives in a sleepy Berkshire village miles away from the inner city areas where Hamza preached, went on: “I was concerned about the things he had on his website, which I felt were threatening to both the UK and the US.
“But the only way to get close to him was to become a fanatical Islamic terrorist like him.
“So I set up a false website called Islamic News, which praised jihadis around the world.
“I also set up links to other websites, including Hamza’s “Supporters of Shariahâ€, tricking them into thinking I was hellbent on forming some kind of Islamic state.
“It wasn’t the hardest thing to do - as I’d had the experience of getting inside a group to spy on them when I worked as the Tamil Tigers press officer to spy on them for the Sri Lankan military.
“But it had become an obsession bringing Hamza down and I jacked in my job as a van driver to spend all hours posing as a fanatical Muslim.
“I passed on the information I found, but found people weren’t paying much attention.
“Then September 11 came and made me more determined to focus on Hamza and bring him to justice.
“I telephoned him directly, saying I was the press officer for a Kashmir terrorist group.
“I also emailed him telling him that I had a brother who was recruiting terrorists and raising funds for the Kashmir group. Then when I spoke to him on the phone again I told him that it would help if I had tapes of his speeches.â€
Jenvey went on to reveal the tense moment when he first spoke to Hamza.
He said: “I was sat in a bedroom pushed up into the corner like all home computer geeks seem to do.
“I was getting fed up with waiting for the video tapes to come so I picked up the phone and rang Hamza, who I called Hook because of the metal hook he has for a hand.
“I said hello in Arabic and went on to complain that no one was doing anything to help our brothers abroad, that muslims were being killed around the globe and no one said anything.
“I said we needed to do something and I need his help. During this time Hamza was praying down the phone while I was talking but not overpowering my speech.
“He was listening. I said I had to be careful but I needed some video tapes. Not just the normal stuff but real jihad stuff that I could make into films and recruit British muslims in the south west of England to raise funds for Kashmiri terrorist groups which was called The Brothers in Kashmir.
“I tempted him with the promise that it would get more people into his mosque in London.
“Although I had to listen through his demented rants and prayers, he didn’t take much persuading to agree to let me have the tapes, so I could recruit young Muslims in the south west/east of England.
“Within a month, he sent 20 audio tapes, and a week later we got the two-hour video tapes.
“They had titles like “The Way of the Shabah, Jihad conference March 12, 2000, The battle of Taweed today August 10, 1998 and lesson one Tafseer of the Quran, Hamza UK.
“I was shocked by what they showed because Hamza was clearly calling for Muslims to rise up here and in America.
“And it was clear to me that this person sitting there in the middle of the table inside the mosque was more than just a hate-filled preacher.
“His knowledge of the attacks on the US embassies in Africa and the USS Cole are far too detailed for him to be anything other than involved. He has to have links with the attackers.
“In one of the videos he shows off an Arabic doumantary about the making of the Twin Towers and I’m sure they were all made before September 11.
“It all added up to Hamza being a major player in the terrorist world.
“Everyone will be aware of Hamza’s pure hatred now, but it was a real shock to me when I first saw them.â€
The videos show graphic scenes of muslim fighters talking about carrying out suicide missions and massacres of Muslims.
And in one of the videos, obtained by the johnathangaltfilms.com , Hamza praises Muslims for carying out suicide attacks - as long as they kill more kuffars (those who don’t believe in Islam).
“There’s no question about it. The tapes Hamza handed over to me were designed to spread his hate-filled messages,†explained Jenvey.
“They were aimed at turning young Muslims into terrorists. Who knows, he probably sent the same things to the 7/7 bombers.â€
Jenvey made his findings available to the FBI, who were putting evidence together to link Hamza to a terrorist plot in Oregan.
Officers from Scotland Yard’s anti-terrorist branch took statements from Jenvey after a request from the FBI and passed it on to their US colleagues.
The statement made on June 6, 2003, by Jenvey said: “I am willing to be interviewed by the US authorities in relation to this matter and if required I would be willing to travel to the USA and provide evidence in open court.†but no action was taken by british government or police?
The evidence is ready to be used now by US government prosecutors in New York, where Hamza is wanted for setting up a terrorist training camp.
The FBI claims Hamza is part of a plot to provide weapons training to American mujaheddin on a cattle ranch in Bly, Oregon along with fellow fanatic James Ujaama, who is being held in the US.
The charges carry a 25-year jail sentence.
Sources close to the case say they will press for his extradition to America after he has served his sentence in the UK.
A video that Jenvey has handed over to the johnathangaltfilms.com shows Hamza sitting next to Ujaama at a meeting.
That tape was used against Ujaama by the FBI.
When he was first arrested, he denied knowing Hamza. But when he was shown the tape he changed his plea against terrorist charges to guilty.it was this video that brought down Hamza.
And he is the key witness against Hamza if he is handed over the US authorities.
Hamza is also wanted in Yemen for his alleged role in organising the 1998 kidnappings of 16 tourists by the Islamic Army of Aden.Hamza is sat next to two of the kidnappers 5 months before the events calling for westerners to be killed.
Four of the hostages died during a shootout during a rescue operation.
BACKGROUND ON HOW JENVEY GOT INTO SPYING
“I’d been in spying for other countries before. It was something I just fell into after I went travelling in the 1990s.
“My father had been in the military and I suppose that’s what I wanted to do - and I knew the Americans would be interested in stuff from inside Iran - so I contacted the military attache at the embassy in London.
“It might seem strange to people, but I’m not the type of person to go on beach holidays. Whenever I go anywhere I find out where the embassies are after I get off then plane.
“I only spoke over the phone to the miliary attache at the US embassy, but it was clear they wanted information from inside the country.
“It was all very casual, but I could tell they were keen to get on-the-ground information.
“From there I went on to spy on the Tamil Tigers after becoming their press officer.â€
Posted by: glen jenvey at July 10, 2006 06:00 PM (0EqiT)
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I see Greg the traito is still a low life lying asshole.
Is mentioning that this asshole Brooks is black a racist comment? What are the black muslims in our prisons planning? What are the black muslims on our streets planning?
RACIST, RACIST, RACIST. Don't like them, never have, never will. AND BLACK MUSLIMS IN AMERICA AREN'T RACIST.
Keep academic head in sand and they will go away. HA! Idiocy, Stupid, Dumb.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2006 06:14 PM (2clci)
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By the way. We are not anywhere near winning the Tarpon Tournament. In fact we are tied with 10 others for dead last. Tommorrow we will rise to the occasion. I hope, but it don't look good. No spirit here. Tonight I will worship the Margarita god. Has worked before.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2006 06:25 PM (2clci)
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I see it's Greg and his derailing tactics again.
Don't bite.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at July 10, 2006 06:28 PM (8e/V4)
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IDF soldier killed in Gaza raid laid to rest in southern Israel
“The IDF is investigating whether he was killed by friendly fire.â€
http://news.haaretz.co.il/hasen/spages/735652.html
Look quick. There was a whole story on this and now the updated version has a single line about it.
Please, please don't throw me in the biting patch.
Posted by: Greg at July 10, 2006 06:40 PM (q5wwn)
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The vermin must be eradicated.. period.
Posted by: Richard at July 10, 2006 06:42 PM (7KF8r)
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Greg,
you will be ignored until/unless you post on topic.
Out.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at July 10, 2006 06:45 PM (8e/V4)
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Algerian, Zidane's excuse...
Matterazzi called me "a terrorist".
Posted by: Greg at July 10, 2006 06:46 PM (q5wwn)
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jenvey, great post. I would like to believe it is a true story. Do you think individuals like Hamza follow the true Islam in the Koran?
Posted by: Leatherneck at July 10, 2006 06:57 PM (D2g/j)
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Oh hey greg, how do you find time to troll for JOOOOOO news when you're not downloading kiddy porn?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 10, 2006 08:26 PM (v3I+x)
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 10, 2006 08:44 PM (rUyw4)
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Richard: Vermin must be eradicated. You talking about Greg? If so, I agree.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2006 10:49 PM (2clci)
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Now can I say something racist? This turkey looks like he lives in the Chocolate City. Put don't worry bro. We know your beliefs were caused by the socio-ecomonic sitution that whitey placed you in. So carry on with your kill the infidels. After all you are just a product of racism.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2006 11:00 PM (2clci)
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They seem to be popping up like mushrooms these day’s, well-spoken English/American jihadis. They seem to be getting more and more confident and the media is willing to listen to them. And they are starting to make fun of us. Their propaganda is working. It’s time to switch over to Defcon 2!
Don’t talk about these guys. Look them up and beat the crap out them. They in your own country now!
Posted by: Dan at July 11, 2006 02:13 AM (Z2OsI)
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I can't let this pass without saying, Americans have no idea how poor the state of their own press is compared with the UK. The tabloids you mention are the most notorious, but there are several outstanding broadsheets which are millions of times more free-thinking and radical than the New York Times for example (ie The Guardian, The Indepenedent, The Observer-check out their webites- not to mention Channel Four News's cutting-edge reporting and exposes.)Outside of the US, The US media has a very poor reputation indeed or its sicophantic, unquestioning attitide to its government and lack of international coverage although unless you leave the US you probably wouldn't even know this. I'm not trying to make a dig at you but I'm flabberghasted at the naivity and ignorance of anyone who can disparagethe UK media in contrast with the US media!!! Most UK journalists won't even work in the US because the papers/TV news are in such bad shape! Try having a look at some of our news if you really want to know what's going on in Iraq/rest of the world.(Sorry we love you really!!!)
Posted by: mindy at July 11, 2006 08:21 AM (BIKLF)
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I can't let this pass without saying, Americans have no idea how poor the state of their own press is compared with the UK. The tabloids you mention are the most notorious, but there are several outstanding broadsheets which are millions of times more free-thinking and radical than the New York Times for example (ie The Guardian, The Indepenedent, The Observer-check out their webites- not to mention Channel Four News's cutting-edge reporting and exposes.)Outside of the US, The US media has a very poor reputation indeed or its sicophantic, unquestioning attitide to its government and lack of international coverage although unless you leave the US you probably wouldn't even know this. I'm not trying to make a dig at you but I'm flabberghasted at the naivity and ignorance of anyone who can disparagethe UK media in contrast with the US media!!! Most UK journalists won't even work in the US because the papers/TV news are in such bad shape! Try having a look at some of our news if you really want to know what's going on in Iraq/rest of the world.(Sorry we love you really!!!)
Posted by: Mindy McConnell at July 11, 2006 08:21 AM (BIKLF)
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I can't let this pass without saying, Americans have no idea how poor the state of their own press is compared with the UK. The tabloids you mention are the most notorious, but there are several outstanding broadsheets which are millions of times more free-thinking and radical than the New York Times for example (ie The Guardian, The Indepenedent, The Observer-check out their webites- not to mention Channel Four News's cutting-edge reporting and exposes.)Outside of the US, The US media has a very poor reputation indeed or its sicophantic, unquestioning attitide to its government and lack of international coverage although unless you leave the US you probably wouldn't even know this. I'm not trying to make a dig at you but I'm flabberghasted at the naivity and ignorance of anyone who can disparagethe UK media in contrast with the US media!!! Most UK journalists won't even work in the US because the papers/TV news are in such bad shape! Try having a look at some of our news if you really want to know what's going on in Iraq/rest of the world.(Sorry we love you really!!!)
Posted by: Mindy McConnell at July 11, 2006 08:22 AM (BIKLF)
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At least we ignorant Americans know to only post once.
Posted by: Robert Crawford at July 11, 2006 08:55 AM (1j9aH)
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look it's one of them dere euroPEONS telling us Americans how it is we don't travel outside the country and get us an edumication about the world.
Please. I've travelled Europe, and America both, hands down America -- everytime.
How some Europeans think they're so damn sophisticated because they ride a train to another country, or drive fifty miles through a country to the next is beyond me.
Posted by: davec at July 11, 2006 10:08 AM (voZp6)
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Surely Mindy can't be serious. Those rags in the UK are only good for starting a fire in the fireplace. Or toilet paper if you get stuck in the wilderness. Or wallpapering a mosque.
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 11, 2006 10:32 AM (rUyw4)
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The real casualty is going to be "the Liberal tradition," especially the modern version of that tradition that makes "inclusion, tolerance and diversity," its hallmarks.
Before England and Europe fall to Islam, there will be a belated, pent-up counter-reaction to all this and will probably be evidenced in the rise of the racialist "HARD" or "FAR" Right. The likes of Le Pen in France, Haider's Freedom Party in Austria and their like in England and elsewhere will mark the beginning of Europe's gut-reaction to Muslim extremism.
Before Islam makes significant inroads in Europe, there'll be mass expulsions, possibly even a full-scale pogrom directed on these Third World invaders.
Yeah, Allah be praised indeed.
Posted by: JMK at July 11, 2006 10:35 AM (famkb)
Posted by: greyrooster at July 11, 2006 10:41 AM (R7ENl)
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The democratic party has gone so far to the left that they need a new name.
I honestly believe they would sacrifice things good for this country just to prove our elected president wrong. Their hatred for anything that disagrees knows no bounds. Now Lieberman is on the receiving end of their wrath. I don't feel sorry for him. He made his own bed. Just wished to point out how quickly these liberal dorks will turn on their own.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 11, 2006 10:48 AM (R7ENl)
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dave you need to live rather than travel in order to appreciate and compare the two places. My guess is you are born and bred American and took a 2 week vacation somewhere in europe and then came home. Most people prefer their homeland. In any case its a personal preference and not a school yard my country is better than yours argument is it ?
Posted by: rob at July 11, 2006 03:36 PM (QpkBe)
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jesusland, The mosques will have decent wallpaper state funded by governement racial integration type subsidies etc. The orginal Church of England establishments will be the ones using the tabloid rags for roof repair.
Posted by: rob at July 11, 2006 03:50 PM (QpkBe)
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"We hope."
Greyrooster
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Me too...I've been hoping for that for a looong while now.
As for the Democratic Part here in America, it doesn't need so much a new name, as a replacement.
Let the Moore-Sheehan-Franken-Soros Wing of that Party become the Democratic Socialist Party of America and let the Liberatrians fill the void they leave as one of America's two major Parties.
The Lieberman fiasco is more proof that the hard-Left will attempt to canabalize anything that doesn't march in lock step with them...better to be opposed to them rather than a dissenting ally.
Posted by: JMK at July 11, 2006 04:45 PM (famkb)
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Then your guess would be incorrect, I have lived 10 more years in Europe, that I have in the U.S -- sorry to bust your little "culture" bubble!
Posted by: davec at July 11, 2006 04:46 PM (voZp6)
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Hey! Enough of this bash the Brits crap. I love the English. That is the ones that are truly English.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 11, 2006 04:46 PM (y4Vli)
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ok dave its when you use the term "travel" i associate that with a shorter than 10 year period ! I would have called that "lived". Comparing Europe to America is not a valid comparison, thats just too much generalization. The Europeans are no way united or culturally similar.
Posted by: rob at July 11, 2006 05:34 PM (QpkBe)
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The truth is that, no matter how much a part of the population is against another, there is nothing that can be done about it. Unless you want the overthrow of the "democratic values" that Busho preaches to these muslims.
Posted by: Maria at July 11, 2006 06:12 PM (87a0f)
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The Jamaican convert problem is becoming serious in south london, all the young drug dealers and hoodrats where I grew up have now converted to mohammedism and they are truly a law unto themselves, even the yardies are scared of them. Its a serious problem! They should be made to renounce their perverted faith or exiled.
Posted by: Dave Clarke at July 11, 2006 07:11 PM (nVAKg)
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War is coming to Europe again, my friends, and you people in Europe had better get prepared. These Muslim rats are coming after you, whether you like it or not, and you will have two choices.
You can continue the course you are on and you will be destroyed, or you can do whatever is neccessary to end the threat, and if that means expelling all Muslims, then that is what you will have to do. That is what Spain had to do after the Reconquista, as the Muslims living there were in a continual state of rebellion.
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 11, 2006 07:46 PM (rUyw4)
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jesusland of course you are right but in most european countries you cannot voice that opinion without being regarded as a racist. Certainly no MSM will cover that opinion in case of tipping the multicultural cauldren.
Posted by: rob at July 11, 2006 07:57 PM (jaQRE)
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Well, yes, of course, rob, and it is no different here in the US. Our great advantage over you in Europe is our right to own firearms. And I will tell you I have exercised that right, and my entire family as well. My wife and three children are well versed in the use of firearms, which includes safety measures as well. Of course, a lifestyle that includes deer, duck, bear and small game hunting keeps us polished. We are as ready as anyone can be for what is coming, if it comes. I pray not, but am prepared for the worst.
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 11, 2006 08:29 PM (rUyw4)
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ROB, ROB, ROB: Being a racist is cool. All the silent ones are really racist too. Nothing wrong with being called a racist when you are one. I have never met a black that wasn't a racist. Saying being racist is bad means you are calling all blacks bad. RACIST AND PROUD OF IT. You would be surprised at the company you get.
Resist the destruction of your country. GO RACIST. Mother nature knows best. If heard the saying don't mess with mother nature. When we allowed muslims and blacks to migrate to the western world we messed with mother nature. Nature didn't put them here. We did. Like the cane toad and rabbits in Aussie land. Same results. Don't mess with mother nature. Send them back.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 11, 2006 09:39 PM (y4Vli)
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The only way to deal with muslims is to kill them; they're either at your feet or at your throat.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 12, 2006 06:22 AM (v3I+x)
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jesusland. In the UK you definately have the right to own a firearm. You just have to apply to the police and have a reasonable cause, i.e gun club memeber etc its not a problem to get one. They do check where you store it and that usually must be a locked cabinet. If anyone threating came in my property i could blow their heads off with my shotgun in self defense. Only complications are that they must be a real threat i.e have a weapon and are trying to attack and not flee.
Posted by: rob at July 12, 2006 11:23 AM (QpkBe)
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Yeah, good luck Rob, what with trying to get your shotgun out of a locked cabinet while an armed intruder waits politely. You guys are so screwed. You've let Britain become infested with third world vermin and now they can kill and rape with impunity and nobody in the country can do anything about it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 13, 2006 06:26 AM (v3I+x)
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hey max you only have have to demonstate the storage facility in order to get a license. Once you have the license nobody is going to be checking that you have the bad boy under your pillow at night
Yes the UK is infested, its the refugee hot spot because of benefits, free health care etc. I dont like it but i cant stop it. We have to wait for the "rivers of blood" before the politians wake up. As for nobody in the country can do anything about it there is a police force.
Posted by: rob at July 13, 2006 02:02 PM (QpkBe)
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Some confusion on what i was meaning by racist. I do not think its cool just to hate a person simply because of skin color or even because they may be racist. Thats pure hate for hates sake.
I was on about the inability to be able to express a dislike for a race/religious/immigrant group on the basis that they refuse to integrate into society and are against everything a country stands for, without being branded a racist with the meaning above. Thats i think is the problem especially in the UK.
Posted by: rob at July 13, 2006 02:16 PM (QpkBe)
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That's 100% right Rob.
The distinction, of course, is between "hate" and "self-preservation."
Right now radical (even traditional "Sharia Law adhering") Islam poses a very real threat to the West.
A reaction to that kind of threat is very different than hating a person solely because of their religion, skin-color, etc.
I think this misguided political correctness that has gripped the West, will likely make the ultimate reaction against the Islamo-fascists much more intense, even much more ugly than it would have and possibly should have been, in its absence.
No country can long tolerate any group preaching violent, hatred and open insurrection in its midst, the way the radical Islamicists are now doing in the West.
Across the globe Islam cannot seem to tolerate any other religion. In Kosovo they initiated the genocide of the Christian Serbs, in Darfur, the Sudan, they've raped the non-Muslims, in the Mid-East they've eradicated or expelled most of the Christian Arabs and war with the Jews, in Kashmir they war with the Hindus, in the Phillipines with the Catholics.
This brand of Islam is a cult NOT a religion and it is a cult of hatred.
It is ironic that the so-called "anti-racist" laws in places like Europe and elsewhere are not used against this most vile, racist cult.
The eventual backlash will, more than likely, be tremendous.
Posted by: JMK at July 13, 2006 03:55 PM (3VLhf)
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Dave Clark: They should be exile for no other reason than they are not English people.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 13, 2006 06:28 PM (0UFK+)
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JMK i agree, i have never met a muslim who can defend himself/herself on these arguments. they are born into it smostly and are forced to stay in it.
Posted by: rob at July 16, 2006 07:09 PM (jaQRE)
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I suppose, in a sense, we're all "born into" whatever cultural belief system we hold to, Rob.
The problem with radical/traditional Islam is that it never went through a Reformation, where it rethought and abandoned the view that "All those who don't accept (Jesus, Moses, Allah, etc) deserve death and are less than those who are believers."
That is why it is correct to say that Islam is stuck in the 7th Century. That's why traditional/radical Islam cannot peacefully coexist with any other group anywhere in the world today - in Kashmir they clash with Hindus, in the Mid-East they've clashed with both Christians and Jews, in the Phillipines with Catholics, in Darfur (the Sudan) with non-Muslims and in the Balkans with Christian Serbs and Croats.
At this point, right now, what is called "radical" or even "traditional" Islam is more a dangerous cult, than a "religion of peace."
If you're point is that there are moderate Muslims in those regions, afraid to speak out for fear of reprisals, that's probably true, but all the more reason that radical/traditional Islam be reined in by the outside world.
Posted by: JMK at July 17, 2006 02:41 PM (NXjzN)
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I like how you idiots call for mass murder and violence because a handfull of other idiots are doing the same thing, try using your head for half a second and you'd realise that you're about the same as the 'vermin'... either really stupid or suffering some form of paranoid mental illness. I just hope you're still not scared of the nasty communists hiding under your beds. Promoting violence is a crime, it doesnt matter if he's Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Wiccan, or supporter of far-right knuckle dragging political parties, this is all very boring.
Posted by: bob at July 21, 2006 05:41 PM (Z9m0N)
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I love it. "I gave up my job as a van driver to become a full-time spy". BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!
How could anyone believe that tosh!
Posted by: Harry Barracuda at July 23, 2006 07:23 AM (WwIKu)
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i am married to a muslim so dont insult us muslims, i am a convert to islam the only true way of life.all you non belivers get a life or go down the pub and take a bimbo blond home thats what you are only good for.
mandy(amina islam)
Posted by: mandy at July 23, 2006 05:31 PM (7U+09)
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i am married to a muslim so dont insult us muslims, i am a convert to islam the only true way of life.all you non belivers get a life or go down the pub and take a bimbo blond home thats what you are only good for.
mandy(amina islam)
Posted by: mandy at July 23, 2006 05:31 PM (7U+09)
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i am married to a muslim so dont insult us muslims, i am a convert to islam the only true way of life.all you non belivers get a life or go down the pub and take a bimbo blond home thats what you are only good for.
mandy(amina islam)
Posted by: mandy at July 23, 2006 05:31 PM (7U+09)
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i am married to a muslim so dont insult us muslims, i am a convert to islam the only true way of life.all you non belivers get a life or go down the pub and take a bimbo blond home thats what you are only good for.
mandy(amina islam)
Posted by: mandy at July 23, 2006 05:32 PM (7U+09)
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i am married to a muslim so dont insult us muslims, i am a convert to islam the only true way of life.all you non belivers get a life or go down the pub and take a bimbo blond home thats what you are only good for.
mandy(amina islam)
Posted by: mandy at July 23, 2006 05:33 PM (7U+09)
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i am married to a muslim so dont insult us muslims, i am a convert to islam the only true way of life.all you non belivers get a life or go down the pub and take a bimbo blond home thats what you are only good for.
mandy(amina islam)
Posted by: mandy at July 23, 2006 05:33 PM (7U+09)
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i am married to a muslim so dont insult us muslims, i am a convert to islam the only true way of life.all you non belivers get a life or go down the pub and take a bimbo blond home thats what you are only good for.
mandy(amina islam)
Posted by: mandy at July 23, 2006 05:34 PM (7U+09)
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i am married to a muslim so dont insult us muslims, i am a convert to islam the only true way of life.all you non belivers get a life or go down the pub and take a bimbo blond home thats what you are only good for.
mandy(amina islam)
Posted by: mandy at July 23, 2006 05:34 PM (7U+09)
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i am married to a muslim so dont insult us muslims, i am a convert to islam the only true way of life.all you british pub goers get a life or go down the pub and take a bimbo blond home thats what you are only good for.
mandy(amina islam)
Posted by: mandy at July 23, 2006 05:35 PM (7U+09)
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i am married to a muslim so dont insult us muslims, i am a convert to islam the only true way of life.all you british pub goers get a life or go down the pub and take a bimbo blond home thats what you are only good for.
mandy(amina islam)
Posted by: mandy at July 23, 2006 05:35 PM (7U+09)
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i am married to a muslim so dont insult us muslims, i am a convert to islam the only true way of life.all you british pub goers get a life or go down the pub and take a bimbo blond home thats what you are only good for.
mandy(amina islam)
Posted by: mandy at July 23, 2006 05:35 PM (7U+09)
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i am married to a muslim so dont insult us muslims, i am a convert to islam the only true way of life.all you british pub goers get a life or go down the pub and take a bimbo blond home thats what you are only good for.
mandy(amina islam)
Posted by: mandy at July 23, 2006 05:36 PM (7U+09)
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