Woah Baby, Look at All Those Dots Up There
After reading this at A Jacksonian I know our government doesn't function much, if at all.
Via A JacksonianFor quite some time I have been pointing out the problem of Transnational Terrorism, organized crime and the unaccountable shipment of goods and money via various routes legal, illegal and gray. And today, a serious dot in the black comes to light and a major h/t to Instapundit for the link to the Washington Times article on three men indicted with threatening America. And with that the first *real* break into crossing between the various realms comes to the forefront! Let me give you some of the meat of the article:
Three arrested in arms plot to kill Americans
By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
June 9, 2007
A suspected international arms dealer was arrested yesterday in Spain and charged with conspiracy to sell millions of dollars in weapons to a State Department-designated foreign terrorist organization in Colombia to kill Americans.
U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Administrator Karen P. Tandy said Syrian national Monzer Al Kassar....
Stop right there. Go on to read the article, This man, Monzer Al Kassar comes up over and over and over in drug and arms smuggling rings. He sells arms to just about anyone, only catch, you need to be an Enemy of the United States or Israel. Which ones? Well, all of them really. I mean it you must read all this story
He did this all this time and lived? CIA Central Inert Agency.
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Why doesn't someone indict Congress and the President then for letting
the same type of people smuggle arms and drugs between the US and
Mexico? Oh, that's right; they're getting paid. Silly me.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 11, 2007 08:08 AM (e56vj)
Moonbats in Defense of Kennedy Plotters, Conspiracy Theories
The TSA blog explains the avantage of aggressive defense (emphasis added):
For more than a year, there has been a tightly coordinated effort led by the FBI that also involved law enforcement, the intelligence community, DHS components including TSA and CBP, as well as international partners. Within TSA, the office of Law Enforcement/Federal Air Marshal Service, Intelligence and Security Operations were actively involved. This coordinated effort shows once again that the best way to stop terrorist attacks is to break them up before they become operational.
Leftists, however, even in the face of overwhelming contradictory evidence, prefer to see shadowy government/mass media conspiracies:
more...
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I am beginning to wonder if the leftist, as idiotic as they are, have been deeply infiltrated by islamic extremist. The rhetoric they spew is fueled by the islamic idiots. . Posting on Daily Kos and such by these infiltrators I believe charges this movement. They hide under the guise as left wingers. The moonbats are extremists and what better way to further your cause than with such especially given the fact that the moonbats are totally out of touch with reality. When a poster comes on jawa we all recognize when he is posing extremist views and say such to said poster. Unfortunately, you can't tell the difference between the moonbats and the islamic extremist..... Just a thought....
Posted by: allahakchew at June 03, 2007 05:06 PM (m2p07)
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They don't need to be infiltrated. They're happy to betray us for free.
3I am beginning to wonder if the leftist, as idiotic as they are, have been deeply infiltrated by islamic extremist.
Nahh! They just want power so bad they have no problem destroying the country and betraying the troops to get it back. They actually hate we on the right vastly more than they do terrorist who only kill us but can't win the Congress and White House.
Posted by: Randman at June 03, 2007 05:38 PM (Sal3J)
According to sources, the suspects have been identified as: Russell Defreitas, Abdul Nur, Kareem Ibrihim and Abdul Kadir.
A plot to touch off a massive explosion at New York's Kennedy airport by blowing up a jet fuel pipeline has been thwarted:
NEW YORK -- According to NewsChannel4's Jonathan Dienst, sources said federal investigators have made arrests in an alleged terror plot on Kennedy Airport.
Four people have been charged. One is in custody in New York. Three suspects are thought to be overseas.
Sources said one suspect is thought to be a former parliament or government official in Guyana.
That's the tie-in between this JFK plot, Adnan Shukrijumah, Guyana and Trinidad!
Posted by: Dale in Atlanta at June 02, 2007 02:11 PM (BPJn5)
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#3 Thanks for the link! As for the plot The guy was a RETIRED worker at JFK. Hate runs pretty deep against the infidels. Thank God they were able to foil this plot. Want burns me at this point is the fact that the dems want Homeland Security to work more on Global warming. Had this plot succeeded it would have been one hell of a local warming. And yes it points the finger at radical islam...not amish, protestant, catholic, methodist, church of christ, judai, mormon, hindu, etc.,etc., etc.... I wonder if our dear traitor Adam the goat persons speach on the internet about something happening here on our soil that would make 9/11, Virginia Tech seem nothing. Sure sounds like this was up his alley!
Posted by: allahakchew at June 02, 2007 03:08 PM (m2p07)
Posted by: Calling It Like It Is at June 02, 2007 03:15 PM (b0FZu)
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I think is is time for Islam profiling. Not muslim but islam. CAIR, ACLU and all others can go to hell Radical islam is at the root of this. The camps of Radical Muslims of America are alive and well in the US and they preach radical islam. More plots are sure to happen. When can we start monitoring the Mosques without being obstructed by CAIR, ACLU, etc? Dems being in control of Congress sure as hell doesn't help a whole lot. The programs they tried to shut down are the same programs that foiled this plot. It is time to get rid of the Democratic party and start a new party that is patriotic and cares about the welfare of their citizens not about their poll numbers in the upcoming presidential election. A party that doesn't leak info to the press concerning national security. A party that police's their own and not cover up crimes. Hell, maybe we should get rid of the Republican party as well as they are not innocent in crimes. I am rambling but am damn pi**ed how the MSM is covering this story. It's GWB and the Iraq Wars fault....totally sick!!
Posted by: allahakchew at June 02, 2007 03:50 PM (m2p07)
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#4: thanks, and I thought of what you said, and thought WE will never know for sure, I suspect it's at least possible..
Posted by: Dale in Atlanta at June 02, 2007 03:55 PM (BPJn5)
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All of the mosques in the Chicago area actively recruit for the jihad. That came from a woman who was muslim, from Lebanon, and who listened to what was being said by the wahhabis.
Might be time to ban islam as being antithetical to western civilization. We did it before with the ghost dancers and we must do it again before we're hit much harder than before.
Posted by: Gen Jack D. Ripper at June 02, 2007 04:15 PM (nzqB7)
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I wonder how many of them are in this country illegally...
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at June 02, 2007 04:32 PM (ou0cx)
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Jack's Smirking Revenge :
Zero: They're all eligible for a Z Visa, after all they're just doing the terror plots, America doesn't want to do.
/sarc
Posted by: davec at June 02, 2007 06:48 PM (kcDpP)
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Well at least it was thwarted before it happned but i sure hope they wont use this to bring in 1984 and BIG BROTHER
Posted by: sandpiper at June 03, 2007 12:25 AM (XnXsx)
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OUTLAW ISLAM. Islamics are shit and shouldn't be allowed in the United States.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 03, 2007 09:51 AM (vp5rw)
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Darn - when I first saw the headline, I thought they were talking about TED Kennedy...
Posted by: Former Lurker at June 05, 2007 06:40 AM (Xm4xl)
Messin' With the Taliban: E-mail a Terrorist + Call the Top Taliban Spokesman!
Don't you just love those beef jerky commercials? You know the ones ... the messin' with Sasquatch commercials.
Now is your chance to e-mail the Taliban. Mess with them a little. I'm. Not. Kidding.
Here are a few e-mails I found at a Taliban website. One is for the Taliban webmaster, and two of the others appear to be the e-mail for a couple of dudes named as "the official spokesmen for the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan". The last one I'm not sure about.
Please forward any e-mail you get from them to me. Thanks.
PS--Just in case you want to call the Taliban, they were kind enough to leave the phone numbers for their "spokesmen". The 88216 prefix indicates that it's a satelite phone.
(011 from US, then) 8821621515539 --- ask for Ahmadi, which is what Qari Mohammad Yousuf's friends call him. He seems to speak English. Again, I'm not joking.
(011 from US, then) 8821621360585 --- calls himself "mujahid", so I'd just ask for soon-to-be-deadasshole
If someone answers, er, then I'd suggest e-mailing me pronto fast. I'd call myself, but I seem to be out of minutes this close to the end of the month.
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There is no greater beef jerky commercial than the one featuring the Macho Man Randy Savage crashing into a rendition of Romeo and Juliet, screaming "Art Thou Bored?!?!"
That commercial gave purpose to my life.
Posted by: wooga at May 30, 2007 05:45 PM (t9sT5)
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Googling the addresses link to some funny stuff. Most hilarious is this page: http://www.freewebtown.com/badar320/index.htm
I'm cracking up over the "Copyright 2005" at the bottom of the page, as if the same savages who have no qualms pushing a 12 year old kid into decapitating a man would be worried about Copyright infringement.
Posted by: Gabriel at May 30, 2007 05:52 PM (NTVio)
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100% you'd be on the NSA intercepts calling those numbers, that was the triggers inbound/outbound to known terrorist #'s
Satellite phones can be triangulated and intercepted: That is why Bin Laden stopped using his when it was leaked that his Satellite phone was being tracked by the CIA (thanks Journalists!)
Posted by: davec at May 30, 2007 07:12 PM (kcDpP)
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I sent one to the 1st and2nd names on the list. I got an error message for the 2nd name. Hopefully he's been killed.
Posted by: Rome at May 30, 2007 07:55 PM (/GrlO)
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I love those Messin' With Sasquatch ads. Almost as much as the GEICO Caveman ads.
Posted by: Hucbald at May 30, 2007 09:07 PM (rPAI7)
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Davec...the thing is...you never really know....
So Who Do We Nuke?AllahP's post on who would get the nuke if a nuke were set off here is an interesting one (and hopefully the US government has been thinking about this prior to now).
I felt that the comment preceding mine was truly fatwa worthy and genuine leftist-defined thoughtcrime - which is why it was so interesting:
In the event of a nuclear terrorist strike on the United States, both Mecca AND Medina MUST suffer a nuclear strike in retaliation. It is the ONLY response that makes sense. Not only would it be necessary to nuke those cities, but it would ONLY be a sufficient response if the “dirtiest†nuclear device in the U.S. inventory were utilized in the strike. By “dirty†nuke, I mean a device that would make their two “holiest†sites completely uninhabitable (certain poison to human life) for the next 10,000 years. The nuclear contamination MUST be THAT severe.
Okay. Now. WHY?
Because it is the ONLY way to STOP the violence. The total, complete, and eternal destruction of their “holiest†sites would END Islam, once and for all. Islam is a system of “worksâ€. The fanatic element responsible for the violence is trying to perform “works†(on Allah’s behalf) that will secure a guarantee of eternal reward (in paradise). One of their required works is that “at least once in their life†they must make a pilgrimage to their holy sites. If they can not make their pilgrimage, they can not complete the “works†required to secure their “salvationâ€. By their own stupid rules, outlined their “holy†books, if Mecca and Medina were unapproachable, then ALL muslims all doomed to eternal damnation.
So what effect would this have? Simple. It would completely destroy all incentive…to do ANYTHING. There would no longer be ANY point in being a Muslim, because there would be no possibility of ever being able to do the “works†required by Allah to secure eternal reward. Within a generation, Islam would disappear from the face of the earth.
Game over. (Game, set, match, actually).
CyberCipher on May 8, 2007 at 11:48 PM
Now while this is interesting on a number of levels, I think one of the negative results would be a lot of random and already-pissed off Muslims blowing gaskets, regularly going on violent rampages and murder sprees. Wait...that happens every day.
Maybe it'll burn itself out.
I'll tell you what, though. If so much as a firecracker goes off in this country somewhere in the name of Islam in the future, I might be somewhere in CyberCipher's neighborhood again. And it does not give me pleasure to say that.
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Better to OUTLAW ISLAM in the west. Deport the buggers back to their original countries. Their immigration to the west was an experiment that didn't work.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 08, 2007 11:27 PM (l9HRC)
Please let me live long enough to see the glorious day of Mecca being turned into a redioactive glass parking lot. If that day was to ever come, are we then allowed to remove ourselves from the Geneva Convention nonsense. Napalm, and flame-throwers are too cool to have sitting on the sidelines.
Posted by: Rome at May 09, 2007 01:26 AM (/GrlO)
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We take 3 years to build up the nerve to return fire on mosque that are firing on us. We have lost the will and any return fire upon a attack would be out of the question. We have become pussies.
Posted by: Randman at May 09, 2007 02:30 AM (Sal3J)
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I would say we immediately take Pakistan and Iran. Those two countries are where the vast majority of the global terrorism is eminating from. Iran got their Islamic Republic and if they are going to continue to behave in an irresponsible manner, the world is going to take it away from them. In Pakistan you now have islamists actively calling for the overthrow of a nuclear armed government. The religion itself isn't the problem so much as the practice of it by certain groups. That religion as practiced by the more radical factions is incompatible with modern culture. It isn't sustainable. They are killing each other faster than anyone else is killing them.
Islam is going to self destruct anyway or adapt to a practice that can get along with other people.
Posted by: crosspatch at May 09, 2007 02:30 AM (y2kMG)
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On the Mecca and Medina thing....I know enough about Islam and it's mechanics to know that it would only be a matter of days before one or more creative Mullahs would issue an edict declaring that in some previously misinterpreted passage the Koran actually predicted this. That book is so full madness I would just nod my head and say, "hmmm" if I were told that a "truther" had found a time machine and traveled back in time to dictate it. I love when somebody gives me that "the Bible is full of errors and contradictions too" line. Get out the books and lets read, shall we.....
Sorry, got off on a tangent there. The thing I'm getting at is that Islam was designed or evolved into(your pick) the religion equivalent of the cockroach. It ain't gonna die that easily even.
Posted by: TBinSTL at May 09, 2007 03:35 AM (MSiPb)
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"In the event of a nuclear terrorist strike on the United States, both
Mecca AND Medina MUST suffer a nuclear strike in retaliation. It is the
ONLY response that makes sense."
The problem here is what do you say to more than a million Muslim Americans here in the US, some of whom are serving in our armed forces? Mecca and Medina are the holy sites for my Muslim neighbors, as well as the fanatics. Having gone to school with a few Muslim friends, I wouldn't want to look them in the eye and tell them I supported that. I'm sorry, but something like that is just off the radar in terms of what can be justified. Sure, it may be something you think about doing when you see another jihadi strap a bomb to himself and march into a crowded place, but in the final analysis, it's only an idle thought.
Does that mean we shouldn't nuke in retaliation? Hell no. Turn it into a glass parking lot if we have to, but we need to remember what makes us the good guys and not reduce ourselves to the thugs we're fighting.
Posted by: David Marcoe at May 09, 2007 04:48 AM (dJ/b4)
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Actually, annual detonations that preceed or occur on the pilgrimage each year, would also be advisable. If you really want to go that far. The fact is, if you do destroy the Holy Cities you do wreak havoc on thier prophecies, and I believe that would break Islam's back. Yes, the hardcore loonies would still fight, and the leftists would join in, so it wouldn't be over yet, but if we have been nuked, it is just flat time to clean house on a global scale.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at May 09, 2007 04:52 AM (2OHpj)
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"Muslim friends" I'm not sure what that means ... I used to think I knew what that meant, but I'm not sure anymore ...
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at May 09, 2007 04:54 AM (2OHpj)
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"what do you say to more than a million Muslim Americans" Drop the Adjective! USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at May 09, 2007 04:55 AM (2OHpj)
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Complete and utter bullshit. No way this or any other administration would ever have the balls to openly declare nuclear war on Islam as a whole (not just extremists) in the event of a dirty-bomb detonation here in the states. Bullshit.
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at May 09, 2007 05:15 AM (ou0cx)
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While I would love nothing more than to see Mecca turned to glass and made uninhabitable for centuries, I cannot see our government having the intestinal fortitude to wage any attack on a religious site. I think we'd strike every inch of non-sacred soil before we'd hit Mecca or Madina. Those cities will always remain safe-havens for Islamists. We'd even allow every non-Islamic Holy site to be destroyed by these Islamic vermin, and still we'd avoid similar retaliatory strikes.
And as another poster stated, the Mullahs would just manipulate a Qur'an passage making the destruction of Mecca appear to be Allah's plan. Muslims would still pray to their meteorite, and they would simply find an alternative pilgrimage site.
Posted by: DJM at May 09, 2007 05:34 AM (qEUo5)
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Bombing Mecca would likely have the reverse effect. But I believe the real problem, the real danger is that the US has a huge nuclear arsenal and the current Islamic world dos not know what it could do or believes we would never resort to using nuclear weapons. This is a big mistake. A most dangerous situation occurs when a country has the means to destroy another, but becomes a victim of a gross miscalculation. Prior to being in that situation we need to impress on our terrorist enemies that a nuclear bomb is more powerful then an RPG, and that we will use them. Unfortunately the only way to do that is to drop one somewhere that will demonstrate our resolve. Perhaps that "lawless tribal region" on the Pakistan border would be a good spot. Many people today forget that during the above ground nuclear testing days we detonated 35 bombs a year and it didn't even cause Global Warming.
Posted by: NortonPete at May 09, 2007 06:45 AM (fVuwW)
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I agree the option of nuking Mecca, Medina must be kept open. But, in the mean time, another useful strategy is based on the realization that if it weren't for the oil revenue the barbarity of Islamism would've been geographically contained. It's Islamism's oil revenue that finances global terrorism. To win the global war on terror control of oil must be taken away from Islam.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at May 09, 2007 07:35 AM (j97MF)
14In the event of a nuclear terrorist strike on the United States, both
Mecca AND Medina MUST suffer a nuclear strike in retaliation.
Sounds good to me. If we get nuked, then all bets are off. I don't give a crap what my "muslim friends" think. Fuck em. We're way past that if our cities get nuked. Waaaay past that.
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I agree with "On the Mecca and Medina thing....I know enough about Islam and it's
mechanics to know that it would only be a matter of days before one or
more creative Mullahs would issue an edict declaring that in some
previously misinterpreted passage the Koran actually predicted this."
It's a bit scary that someone who follows this closely enough to post in blogs and who says stuff like " By their own stupid rules," (the "preceding post" in the original jawa report) could think this would do anything but drive them to a more organized and focused fury. Their (meaning the folks subjugating their wills to the radical mullahs) rules -are- "stupid" -because- they don't make sense. Thinking you'll foist them on something of their own design when you know that "design" is irrational and fluid is... well, stupid.
Posted by: bk425 at May 09, 2007 08:57 AM (MCGyY)
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I say we nuke em now. Then, if it turns out we were wrong, I'll take the blame.
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Negative on Mecca and Medina. Crime against Humanity, just like nuking Jerusalem.
Riadh, Damascus and Tehran. And we give Jordan, Pakistan and Turkey some real hard looks.
Posted by: mojo at May 09, 2007 09:35 AM (g1cNf)
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I agree with the Paki-Afghan border solution, along with M&M, ground burst of 50 megaton each. Add Tehran, Riyadh, Sanaa, Damascus, and any place we think that OBL may be hiding, to the mix with the neutron bomb. (free housing for millions)
Posted by: memphis761 at May 09, 2007 09:36 AM (YHZAl)
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This is stupid on so many levels? If Rome gets nuked, will there be no Catholics? If Salt Lake City gets nuked, will there be no Mormons?
Posted by: BohicaTwentyTwo at May 09, 2007 09:37 AM (oC8nQ)
I'm cool with that and TBinSTL is correct. A lot of people here are showing a profound misunderstanding of Islam by suggesting that the Mullahs would just find another holy site. Islam is incredibly ridged regarding certain aspects of Islam. Without Mecca and Medina Islam is toast. Destroying Mecca and Medina to Islam is the equivalent to proving that Jesus Christ never existed to Christianity. None of Islam’s holy site means anything without the existence of Mecca and Medina, that’s how important Mecca and Medina are to Islam. Eliminate Mecca and Medina and Islam collapses like a house of cards.
This is stupid on so many levels? If Rome gets nuked, will there be no Catholics? If Salt Lake City gets nuked, will there be no Mormons?
Neither Rome nor Salt Lake City hold even remotely hold the same significance to Catholics or Mormons that Mecca and Medina holds to Muslims. Proving that Jesus Christ never existed would hold a similar significance to Catholics or Mormons. The existence of Mecca and Medina is the foundation of Islam, just as the existence of Jesus Christ is the foundation of Christianity. Without that foundation all the rest of Islam falls apart. If you can’t pray towards Mecca or make your pilgrimage nothing you do will ever appease Allah, nothing period and there are no substitutions. No renaming of other holy site no secondary sites no backup plans nothing. The twelfth Imam can’t return, Islam cannot subjugate the entire world without the twelfth Imam, the consequences just continue to fall like dominos. Mecca and Medina are Islam’s Achilles heal.
Negative on Mecca and Medina. Crime against Humanity, just like nuking Jerusalem.
Sorry but that thinking ceases to have any value or merit after a nuke or dirty bomb goes off in America. Mecca and Medina not only become fair targets in the aftermath of such an attack they become the mandatory targets.
Posted by: doriangrey at May 09, 2007 10:06 AM (XvkRd)
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Rome destroyed a number of religions by killing the priests, stealing or destroying any idols, and destroying the temples. That struck those religions in the two weak points, removing the holy artifacts and locations that could not be replaced without those who knew the "secrets", the dead priests.
On one hand, Islam has the weakness of idolitors as they worship both a rock and a location, on the other, they do not have a priesthood based on "secrets". It could go either way. I suspect that it would not destroy the religion.
Neither Catholics nor Mormons worship the locations you mention. Destruction of those two locations would only strengthen the adherence of the believers to the faith. Bad analogy.
Posted by: Phillep at May 09, 2007 10:09 AM (UN15o)
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remember in 1941 nobody supported the wholesale destruction that by 1944 was just another enemy city destroyed. someday it might be very acceptable to give mecca and medina the dresden or hiroshima treatment
Posted by: jimmytheclaw at May 09, 2007 10:24 AM (SeEaA)
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WAIT..people..some sanity..there is NO reason to resort to NUKES! Those need to be saved for shaking at China, Russia et al.Three or Four Moabs would do exactly the same job, with no U.N. b.s. afterwards.Yes, I realize that if a city got nuked all bets would be off, but we would still have to look at political reality:if We nuke, whats to stop China from Nuking Taiwan or Russia from Nuking various parts of Chechnya (and other Asian republics)?In other words, once we signal a precedent about nukes, there is no putting that particular genie away. If you doubt the destructive capability of the Mother of all Bombs, feel to read the defense industries assessment. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/moab.htm
Posted by: RITA at May 09, 2007 10:47 AM (QAIDW)
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Who to nuke? That's actually an easier question to answer than you think. These are the signs you want to look for: (1) any city where there is no law but Sharia law (2) the city has a theocratic government that forces citizens to wear clothes of a particular type and dictates male facial hair hygiene (3) within the city, burned out hulks of churches, cathedrals and temples dominate the landscape but the mosques are all nice and shiny (4) any city where headcutters roam the streets and kidnap people at random (5) any place where they still stone adulterers or drop brick walls on homosexuals (6) any city that fires rockets on a daily basis into a neighboring, non-antagonistic country without provocation (7) any city where primetime TV is filled with hateful, bigoted propaganda against Jews and Christians (
any city where religions other than Islam are not allowed to be encouraged or preached in public (9) any city where violent jihad against the west is encouraged in the local mosque (maybe just take out the mosque) (10) and finally, any city where women are treated like property and children are encouraged to kill in the name of their god. I think that pretty much covers it. Feel free to add to the list if you think I've left something off. Peace out.
Posted by: DrTheopolis at May 09, 2007 10:59 AM (9ZqGe)
Sorry but the MOAB just doesnt cut the mustard. Big ass bomb, yes. Big enough bomb, not even close. The light glowing from Mecca and Medina needs to be seen from the planets circling Orion.
BohicaTwentyTwo, I have a ton of respect for your comments.
"If Salt Lake City gets nuked, will there be no Mormons?"
No offense if I argue with you. There are different psychologies at work here.
If Mecca CAN BE NUKED, it means either there is no Allah, Allah is NOT God, OR that Allah is not with those who claim Islam. Otherwise, Mecca, and Medina should be spared by the will of Allah, and he should sweep our nukes away into the sky by waving his celestial hand.
Other 'primitive' religions have been broken by smacking thier 'god' in the face with a shovel. When faith is shallow, and based on 'acts', and rituals, it cannot survive major challenges to its core dogmas without changing. Mormonism is a bit more modern, and handles earthly matters with more imagination. I believe it would be easier for Mormonism to survive radical challenges than for Islam. Unless of course, Islam manages to over-run and kill all the infidels BEFORE we break its heart.
I vote for shattering thier orthodoxy earlier rather than later. If it gets to nukes on US soil, anyone who takes their side risks getting some also. Yes, it is madness, and yet it is worse madness to simply allow this country to fail before such an evil, and go down without a fight!
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at May 09, 2007 12:22 PM (2OHpj)
29"WAIT..people..some sanity..there is NO reason to resort to NUKES! Those need to be saved for shaking at China, Russia et al." It is insane to keep bluffing for over sixty years and expect nobody to call you on it. China and Russia, and any other nuclear dictatorship needs tosee us take nukes into serious considertion. And if a big enough, and deserving enough target gets in front of us, we need to prove the point that any war against us is suicide. We have been bluffing for so long, now all the little distators want a nuke of thier own because they think we won't stop them. SANITY requires the whole planet get a wake up call,and we prevent any more nuclear armed states. Sanity also requires that dogmas of hate fueled by belief in a God of hate, be broken, and shattered into dust. All death cults must perish!
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at May 09, 2007 12:35 PM (2OHpj)
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The strategy of retaliation should be against the top ten Arab and Iranian cities. Not Mecca or Medina. Put them all in the same boat together. That way all states who sponsor or tolerate terror will be held to account. But in order to deter it must be done first. After we are nuked I dunno. Ya gotta do something. Might as well go out in bright white flash.
Posted by: Howie at May 09, 2007 12:36 PM (YHZAl)
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"There are different psychologies at work here" - you got that right M.W. Can y'all really be this astray? Nuke God's planet. Go right ahead, I'm sure you can find psycological justification. But do not think you ever get to use the Lord's name again, because He will have nothing to do with you (I'm starting to suspect that might already be the case for some of you here).
Posted by: tbone at May 09, 2007 12:46 PM (HGqHt)
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There is a way to still be Muslim without the Hajj - Jihad. Dieing in Allah's cause is a free trip to heaven even if you messed up on all five pillars of Islam.
Plus, if a generation of Muslims is informed that an obligation on their faith and on their children in order to get into heaven is unavailable then they will be in favor of any crazy scheme to initiate the end of the world. The Hajj is not needed after Judgment Day.
Cue Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his 12th Imam plan with the nuking of Jerusalem and the Israel into the sea and the gnashing of teeth and the "Hey, hey - it hurts me!!!"
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I am not saying it is not a potential deterrent threat since it would definitely have an impact on Islam's longterm viability but it would not make for a better situation and I think there are far better threats to Islam's longterm viability like... reality. I know it may seem that many Muslims are immune to reality but kids have a weaker immunity to facts and new ideas. All that indoctrination can fool some of the people some of the time but all kids turn into teenagers and some begin to question things they have been taught.
And even if immigration and deportation could get every Muslim out of the West (every immigrant since anyone of any race or ethnicity could fake being an infidel) there would still come a day when some fishing boat in international waters launched an unmanned submersible with a nuke close enough to a river that leads inland to a minor city or launches a primitive cruise missile. The Islamic world is not completely in the stone-age just because many of their beliefs and economies are backwards. Ultimately there is a war of ideas going on with stakes that are just as high as the war on terror. The West can not afford to pull up stakes on that front any more than can it capitulate to terrorists.
It is time for the West to start actually fighting on the ideas front by translating literary works into Arabic (since it is barely being done now by Arabs) so that they have something to read besides Religion, "Protocols" and "Mein Kampf". We need to develop real-time English/Arabic and English/Farsi translation software both so that we can all see but also respond to pro jihadi discussions on the Internet. We need to make real demands that any nation that wants so much as a dollar in trade or a dime in aid purges antisemitic and anti-Western hatred from their education systems and end persecution of bloggers and the press.
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Islam has already won in America. As soon as the government can start re educating the people to accept and submit to the new religion the better.
Nuke Mecca?
ROFLMAO America's leaders ain't got the guts to nuke much of anybody even should a nuke hit us first. No, The "damage to the enviroment and ecosystems beyond count will hasten global warming and doom us all" crowd will step in and put a stop to this.
Islam is the new wave of religion and will be pushed by our own leaders and it's way too late to even speak of nuking anybody.
Besides the holy cube will just be transported to heaven by Allah until the jews are all destroyed and Islam is the law of the land. This is what the Islamic leadership will say to tell their fpolks what happened.
Nuke Mecca LOL what a floggin' joke.
Posted by: Barry at May 09, 2007 03:16 PM (cl1Cf)
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There is one candidate who would retaliate in kind. I won't mention his name in this context but lets say he knows what might need to be done.
My only litmus test for a president is would he retaliate in kind.
Posted by: NortonPete at May 09, 2007 04:42 PM (fVuwW)
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No, they wouldn't see the bombing of the Holy cities as Allah abandoning them, they would see it as Allah chastening them for being too moderate.
I'm not kidding about this, I know of which I speak. I lived in Cairo and studied the Koran in school for a few years(it was part of the curiculum at my school). They had us read certain portions that were less controversial but I read the whole damn thing, in Arabic and though it has been 30 odd years now, I can tell you that I knew then and still know today that we are dealing with a trully inspired work of mind control and unreality here.
My comparison to cockroaches was one I came up with back then when I was a young teenager and it remains apt. The only thing that might be more directly comparable would be a shoggoth.
The "nuke Mecca" idea is a conveinient mental dodge telling ourselves that if it gets "really bad" we can deal with it in a quick but dirty way at the last minute. Do I know the solution? I've got some ideas, but I'm not sure what will work considering our people's lack of endurance and willingness to face the reality of this threat.
Posted by: TBinSTL at May 09, 2007 05:04 PM (MSiPb)
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Yeah us nuking Mecca or Medina will never happen. If a terrorist nuke goes off in the US, the consensus will be: 'we don't know who to bomb in retaliation, so we can't in good conscience bomb anybody right now.' And that would be regardless of which party is in the White House.
Nahh- we're screwed.
Posted by: Barry in CO at May 10, 2007 04:02 AM (kKjaJ)
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The image of 1.5 billion(?) Moslems bowing 5 times daily towards a smoking, radioactive crater at a place once called Makkah does give one some satisfaction.
Posted by: Leslie White at May 10, 2007 09:20 PM (niERa)
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I volunteer to personally nuke mecca.
I swear by all that is Christian and Holy that if I am given a nuke and allowed to parachute into the cesspool called mecca, that I will detonate it the instant I get close enough to destroy it.
They seem to love suicide bombers so lets see what they think of this one.
Posted by: MeccaNuker at May 24, 2007 03:39 AM (WIqMK)
Al Qaeda Trying to Place Moles in British Intelligence
From the Daily Express:
Dozens of suspected Islamic fanatics have been weeded out after attempting to join MI5 and MI6.
They were identified by the vetting process applicants go through over six to eight months.
The success in exposing the moles has underlined the dangers faced by the security services as they seek to recruit more Muslims.
Assuming that most of these would be Mohammed Philbys are British citizens, wouldn't trying to penetrate British intelligence agencies be considered treason? The article doesn't mention any arrests. Are they simply being let go to toddle back off to the nearest extremist mosque?
And how many of these mutts are applying to (or already working at) the FBI or the CIA?
Posted by: reliapundit at May 08, 2007 10:51 PM (lgrHs)
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I am currently in the process of trying to get in some sensitive positions with the US government and the reality is that most of the vetting would not amount to treason but merely the suspicion that they would not be worthy candidates for said positions. That said...they will be watched.
Posted by: Randman at May 09, 2007 02:36 AM (Sal3J)
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The background checks that agencies like the FBI conduct are so thorough that they practically know know what breakfast cereal you had when you were six years old. I think these jihadis have watched No Way Out too many times.
Posted by: David Marcoe at May 09, 2007 05:04 AM (dJ/b4)
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What....got a problem with Muslim 'faithful' working in our intelligence agencies? BIGOT!
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Posted by: mrclark at May 09, 2007 08:06 AM (2G5Vr)
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You could cut down on a lot of moles trying to infiltrate if you took the first one you caught and put him in front of a firing squad or on a hangman's noose.
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After listening to the Senate and House vetting of Ruby Ridge, Waco, the FBI love trysts with Chinese spies, and all the f''n CIA and FBI moles found out in the last 30 years, how could anyone expect that our politicized "Intelligence Organs" will do any better visa vi Al Qaeda.
Jawa Celebration: Abu Izzadeen & 5 Others Arrested in Terror Ring
How we had the evidence on Izzadeen before he was arrested below.
UPDATEEXCLUSIVE: An Islamist forum connected with Omar Bakri Mohammed, and previously exposed here at The Jawa Report, has listed the names of the six terror suspects arrested today. Many of the names seemed mispelled, but here is how the forum listed them:
Abu Izzadeen from London
Abdul Haqq from London
Sulayman Keeler from London
Abu Muwaheed from London
Omar Zaheer from west London
Rajib Jhan (Khan) from Luton
All are followers of radical exiled clerica Omar Bakri Mohammed. The message also claimed those arrested were "victims of the British crusade", urged Muslims to pray for their release, and prayed that Allah would curse the kuffar (unbeliever).
Another update: Is Abdul Haqq the Abdul Haqq Baker who is the head of the Brixton Mosque in South London where Richard Reid once attended?
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Abu Izzadeen, a regular target of the Jawa Report's ire, has been arrested---again. Five others were arrested with him.
Normally I'm happy whenever we take jihad supporters off the street. Today I don't think happy really describes how I'm feeling. More like ecstatic.
How come? Because I've been on a bit of a crusade against the followers of Omar Bakri Mohammed for some time now and it looks like it's finally bearing some fruit. Sure, Izadeen was arrested once before, but this time it seems more serious. This time the charge includes fund raising for terrorists.
Oh, and this time I saw some of the evidence being used against Izzadeen before he was arrested. How is this possible? Well I can reveal that one of the informers behind the case is a friend, Glen Jenvey. Glen met with authorities a few weeks ago and passed along the videos and other information to them.
Six men have been arrested on suspicion of incitement offences by anti-terror officers from the Metropolitan Police.
They include Abu Izzadeen, also known as Omar Brooks, who made headlines when he heckled Home Secretary John Reid at an event last year.
Five arrests took place in London and the sixth in Luton, Bedfordshire.
Scotland Yard said the arrests related to allegations of inciting others to commit acts of terrorism abroad and fund-raising for terrorists.
The BBC understands that the arrests are connected to an alleged incident at a mosque in 2004. The men were taken to an unnamed police station in central London.
The BBC understands that among the six arrested is Rajib Khan, a 28-year-old man from Luton.
The other men arrested are a 24-year-old, 35-year-old and 21-year-old, all from parts of East London, and a 27-year-old from Southall in the west of the capital.
You'll remember that the 7/7 bombing ringleader was Sadiq Khan and that on the morning of 7/7 Khan and three accomplices boarded the train at the Luton station on his way to London to commit mass-murder.
Since Rajib Khan was picked up in Luton, could he be a relative of Sadiq Khan?
Allahpundit has two Izadeen videos up. Both of them are from Glen Jenvey and one of them premiered right here on The Jawa Report.
Jenvey just has tons of videos and audios of Izzadeen and other followers of Bakri Mohammed doing all sorts of stuff: praising terrorists, urging the death penalty for gays, inciting Muslims to kill the police, and even urging Muslims to give money to al Qaeda.
He also tells me that one of the men arrested is shown in this video. His name is something like "Keyla". Update: His name is Sulayman Keeler.
To be honest, Glen has sent me so much evidence that Abu Izadeen and the other al Muhajiroun goons, such as Anjem Choudary, are in bed with al Qaeda that I haven't linked 1/10th of it. It seemed literally pointless to point out the obvious anymore.
A month ago, after Glen sent me a link, I told him, "The thing is, don't you think he's pretty much exposed by now? I'm guessing your intel and police would love to get their hands on him." And guess what? They did.
And since Glen has been kind enough to keep me "in the loop", I would be remiss in not mentioning the book War of the Web: Fighting the Online Jihad which recounts Glen's involvement in the arrest of Abu Hamza and others.
All of these videos were originally set to "private" on YouTube and sent to me, but Glen had to change that setting to "public" once we started posting them. There are 55 videos in all, but we've only posted a handful here to this date.
For instance, here is a video of one of Abu Izzadeen's friends [update: this is of Abu Muwaheed, arrested today] urging Muslims to give money to terrorists. In it, he says, "Teach your children from a young age to spend money for the sake of Allah. To give money to the mujahidin." Then he breaks into Arabic but one word is apparent: Osama bin Laden. In the context of the speech he is giving it is clear he is urging people to give money to al Qaeda.
Video of arrested terror suspect Muwaheed below.
more...
Posted by: Good Lt at April 24, 2007 10:46 AM (yMbfY)
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I said we needed a category. To be fair, Vinnie named the category.
Posted by: Howie at April 24, 2007 10:51 AM (YHZAl)
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Oh, and F*ck Yeah!!!!! Seriously this guy Izadeen is the most arrogant prick. I hope the Brits get a good judge and he rots.
Posted by: Howie at April 24, 2007 10:52 AM (YHZAl)
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Call me a cynic, but I forsee the brits letting these mooks go, rather than taking them out on Dartmoor and sinking them in a mire as they should.
Posted by: mojo at April 24, 2007 11:48 AM (g1cNf)
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Now if they cna just arrest the remaining millions of fascist to sympathetic muslims in the UK.
Posted by: Todd at April 24, 2007 11:58 AM (ap9Ut)
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Sure they arrested them "again" then like the Palistinians who arrest terrorist the Brits will just let them go.
Posted by: Barry at April 24, 2007 12:01 PM (cl1Cf)
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I remember watching the news conference where John Reed, British Home Secretary, was attempting to reach out to the British Muslim community - a pointless gesture as anybody could've told him - and this loudmouth motherfucker, Izzadeen, who praised the London Suicide Bombers amongst other things, began shouting down Reed as he was making his speech, and calling him an 'enemy of Islam' (well duh - that just makes him not insane...) and so on. And I thought to myself, how is it that Reid can contain himself enough not to hop over the podium and beat the shit out of this guy? But now, several months later, he's been arrested in some anti-terrorism raids, and it makes sense. Why throw your career away, by stoving some belligerent shitheel's teeth in, when you can have him nailed legally? Which gets me thinking that Izzadeen, apart from being a lowlife piece of effluent of the highest order, i.e. an Islamic extremist, must also be as dumb as a box of crayons if he thought the authorities weren't going to pay special attention to him after he publicly ridiculed the de facto head of the police force in such a way. Hopefully they'll get convicted and put away fro a very, very long time. The only problem being is that the taxpayer will have to foot the cost of these people's (and I use the term in its loosest sense) upkeep, which'll probably be significantly more than footing the cost of their upkeep, via benefits - which they ungraciously grab whilst simultaneously advocating the genocide us all - in the outside world. Still, it beats having them walking around as free men, thinking up ways to violently kill us, I suppose. Nuclear-powered, psychotic-AI-governed prison ships for the win...
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at April 24, 2007 12:29 PM (zyFYz)
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Infidelsalwayswin: "only problem being is that the taxpayer will have to foot the cost of these people"
but the brit taxpayers already were. That's part of the Islamist strategy. Move to a welfare state and draw draw draw. the more wives and kids the better. Helps bankrupt the infidels and they don't have to work. Like they ever did anyway.
Posted by: Howie at April 24, 2007 12:45 PM (YHZAl)
Yeah, it's all part of the 20-year-(or however long it takes; never hopefully) plan to submit us to the will of Alan.
Thank God for Glen Jenvy, whoever he is. It's nice to know there are people of his calibre, i.e. people with a spine, still around. If you're reading this by any chance Glen, thanks - don't let the bastards grind you down.
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at April 24, 2007 01:24 PM (zyFYz)
Ye Gods! I spelt John Reid's name wrong. Boy is my face red...
Eh, anywho, the point still stands. And I didn't mean to suggest that Mr. Shackleford doesn't deserve plaudits too. He does, naturally - lots of them. Chalk this one up as a victory for good old common sense. Good stuff.
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at April 24, 2007 02:23 PM (zyFYz)
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Great work Rusty and also much thanks to Glen Jenvy. BTW, those stupid websites are still up on wordpress. I haven't had a chance but I will use the updated contact info you gave Rusty. After this they should be a piece of cake?...maybe...
Posted by: allahakchew at April 24, 2007 03:42 PM (BrndJ)
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at April 24, 2007 05:52 PM (zc0ER)
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Rusty bows, again. Let the death threats and fatwas begin!
Posted by: Rusty at April 24, 2007 06:10 PM (JQjhA)
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Rusty is like the Hercules of anti-terror blogging! I knew I wasn't hangin around here for the bantha fodder! Over and Over again, the Force is strong with him! May his hyperdrive never fail! May his 'Kessel Run' always be less than 12 parsecs! May history never forget! USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 24, 2007 07:54 PM (2OHpj)
Al Qaeda in Russia Loves Google (*Bumped*)
Bumped, because I'm really busy today. Oh, and really pissed at Google.
The Russian arm of the worldwide al Qaeda jihad network has chosen Google as their propaganda enablers of choice. "The Nuruddin Media Islamic Network" appears to be a media front for the Islamic Jamaat of Dagestan Shariat---al Qaeda in the Russian Cuacuses, for all intents and purposes.
A recent press release by the group at the closely allied terror supporters of the Kavkaz Center (hosted in Sweden) states their purpose (this is their own poorly translated version):
Our primary task is liberation of the Muslim land from the Russian occupation and the construction of Shariah state. Our purposes and tasks, in contrast to the kafir's political programs, are clear and intelligible to any Muslim. Each, who thinks himself as Muslim and he desires the establishment of the Word of Allah on Dagestani land, desires to live according to the Shariah Law, free on the validity, established by Allah Almighty, joins our ranks....
Jihad (battle) on the way of Allah is responsibility of each Muslim in the case of seizing even span of the Muslim's land....
Also according to Islam it is possible to kill those, who resist the call of Muslims and prevent the introduction of the Laws of Allah, who helps the enemy: in a word whether, by the matter whether, by money or by weapon.
Their official website is here (hosted in France).
It appears that Jamaat Shariat, true to the al Qaeda franchise form, has formed a media production front, Nuruddin Media. Al Qaeda has a media production company called as Sahab and al Qaeda in Iraq (The Islamic State of Iraq), not to be outdone by corporate headquarters, has al Furqaan media. Print publications, on the other hand, are handled by the Global Islamic Media Front (GIMF).
And, where has al Qaeda in Dagestan chosen to host their propaganda? On Google owned blogspot.com, of course!
They also appear to have about half a dozen Wordpress hosted websites as well. But my experience with the folks at Wordpress is that they take down these types of websites within a few days once notified. Google? Not so much. Even when we tell Google that a website is an al Qaeda front they normally reply with a form letter about how they do not "censor" content.
I imagine that had Google been around during WWII they would have thought it their civic duty to rebroadcast Tokyo Rose to the heartland of America.
And just to show how "edgy" and "ironic" the onlilne jihadis can be, the website is said to have been designed by "Irhab studio".
That's real funny. Irhab means "terrorism" in Arabic.
Oh, you're chance to e-mail the webmaster behind al Qaeda's front in Russia's Dagestan region:
Posted by: greyrooster at April 12, 2007 07:58 PM (2J0r9)
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I just dugg it, wonder how fast it will get buried?
Posted by: spypeach at April 13, 2007 11:14 AM (y/5U+)
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The question now is: When is Vladimir Putin going to take his head out
of his behind and stop pissing on U.S. and coalition efforts to combat
Jihadism.
I mean, I just don't get it? What the hell does he hope to achieve by his idiotic behaviour?
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at April 13, 2007 11:55 AM (EdIIN)
Jawa in The News: Jawa 1, Online Jihadis 0
Wow, kicking al Jazeerah's virtual butt got us some "dead tree" coverage. Another enemy agitprop website down.
Two weeks ago, this column reported that Texas blogger Rusty Shackleford (mypetjawa.mu.nu) was surprised to learn that Hassan A. El-Najjar, a faculty member of Dalton (Ga.) State College, was editor of the Al Jazeerah anti-war Web site (aljazeerah.info), which Mr. Shackleford said "openly supports terrorism, conspiracy theories, and is anti-Semitic."
Now, Mr. El-Najjar says he's calling it quits.
"I have concluded that it's not safe for me any more to continue editing Al-Jazeerah.info in this atmosphere of intimidation, which abridges freedom of speech and freedom of the press. ... I promise to resume publication as soon as conditions change to a more peaceful and tolerant discourse," Mr. El-Najjar wrote at his site.
He blamed the decision on critics who, he said, "have been orchestrating a campaign" against him.
"The campaign seems to have started by a person called Rusty Shackleford ... then echoed by other Web sites and media, several of which urged people to write letters to officials in the state of Georgia, particularly in the institution I work with," Mr. El-Najjar wrote.
Mr. Shackleford responded: "We humbly accept credit. ... So, good riddance. If it really is good riddance."
If you don't read Greg Pierce's regular column, you should. Checking out aljazeerah.info today, you'll notice El-Najjar's newest message, speaking of himself in the third person:
He decided to stop the publication for now hoping to resume it when conditions change in a later time.
What conditions would those be, I wonder? Perhaps El-Najjar thinks we'll stop monitoring his activities which include spinning bizarre and seditious conspiracy theories and supporting terrorists? Newsflash: WE WON'T.
Slap another crescent onto the side of the sandcrawler, that's one more kill to the Jawas! Keep it up guys, we've got them on the run!
Posted by: wearyman at April 12, 2007 12:45 PM (puky3)
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"you'll notice El-Najjar's newest message, speaking of himself in the third person:"
as your humble bear predicted the idiot has become a sock puppet master. lol... but it goes along with the islamic doctrine of deceit.
one might wonder though why would God who never changes, would suddenly give muhamed and his ideological slaves a blank check to lie and murder.
maybe because allah is the one about whom One had said: "He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him"
Posted by: Kamchatka Bear at April 12, 2007 12:57 PM (gtZwa)
Dalton State has no business hiring a friggin muslim to brainwash our children. I say the next step is to get this muslim asshole fired. I for one am going to E-mail the school and ask them what in the hell are they doing hiring this shit.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 12, 2007 12:58 PM (2J0r9)
its what the good 'Mr. El-Najjar' said about Rusty... If pummeling and dogging terrorist supporters, apologists and anti-semites is 'intimidating' to them or 'abridges (purportedly) their freedom of speech', then count me in.
Posted by: mrclark at April 12, 2007 01:18 PM (gmrUH)
Way to go Rusty! F'ing awesome man! I much prefer direct action, but this will do just fine.
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at April 12, 2007 01:41 PM (mak/j)
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We will be waiting for him. Conditions aren't going to change. Bad guys are bad guys plain and simple. On a side note saw on LGF that the Muslim Brotherhood has been invited to speak before Congress. What Congressperson invited them is unknown at this time. I truly hope this is untrue because it means Pelosi and Co. were busy whilst in the Middle East plotting their evil.
Posted by: allahakchew at April 12, 2007 02:06 PM (BrndJ)
Posted by: allahakchew at April 12, 2007 02:26 PM (BrndJ)
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wow...just wow. i took my sociology classes from El-Najjar and i think you guys are really blowing this out of proportion. the guy isn't a terrorist, he's probably one of the last remaining honest to god american patriots in existence. what you people don't know is that at least two other (white anglo-saxon protestant) DSC faculty members worked closely with El-Najjar to edit his site. one of those faculty members is an associate professor of history and political science. they flat out tell their students that this site is intended as an excercise in free speech in a climate that increasingly stifles the spread of such radical ideas as the bill of rights. i guess really you folks deserve mega props for proving the point. the scary part about this (when you consider the fact a confederated government is centralizing to better facilitate its occupation of foreign nations, not to mention tighten its grip on the people living under its rule) is that the first step on the road to empirialism is flushing out the champions of liberty in our schools and universities and replacing them with the mouthpieces of big brother. welcome to Fox College: A Fair and Balanced Education. so tell me guys, when do plan to open the first concentration camp?
Posted by: sean at April 16, 2007 10:08 AM (EyJiM)
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sean, You can claim whatever you like. It doesn't change the fact that a site that glamorizes anti-American radicalism, is actually encouraging such radiclism. If I bought into your weak excuse for El Najjar's behavior, it is still morally reprehensable. It is just the same as if I went around slandering you, or your family, just to test the reaction. If you reason that lies are OK on a public forum, for some hypothetcal research purpose, then the kind of lie doesn't matter does it? Anyone should be able to see my point here. El Najjar has no moral excuse. He is doing harm, and should be stopped.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 16, 2007 01:25 PM (2OHpj)
first of all, his site gained national attention years ago and if what he had been doing was slanderous he could and most likely would have been judicially shut down. as a sociologist he has every right to conduct a sociological experiment on such a scale. most importantly he has the right as an american citizen to voice his opinion and express his ideas even if it offends the delicate whitebread sensibilities of neo-con america. and if you want to talk about morals let's discuss the moral reprehensibility of fabricating a link from 9/11 to Iraq [Clarke]. how does our government get away with it? because people in this country like sitting around on their fat asses and watching shit get blow'd up.
Posted by: sean at April 16, 2007 04:32 PM (EyJiM)
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And we have every right to speak out against it. Every right to complain to the Dalton State President and Board. Every right to express our opinion and outrage that this man is supporting terror and using Dalton state to legitimize his postion. Every rigth to perfrom our own little social experiement, called what happens if we bitch to the powers that be about this.....I guess you can see the result. Apparently the Dalton State board agree's with us. 1st ammendment my ass. The govenrment did not shut him down. The people with the force of their speech and opinions shut him down....That's the way the free speech ball bounces, deal with it!
Posted by: Darth Odie at April 16, 2007 04:42 PM (YHZAl)
Terror Website Calling it Quits? Al Jazeerah Folding
Dr. Hassan A. El-Najjar claims in a statement today to be quitting his post as editor-in-chief of his website, al Jazeerah.info. Why? Because of you, the Jawa Report readers. Al Jazeerah:
I have concluded that it's not safe for me any more to continue editing Al-Jazeerah.info in this atmosphere of intimidation, which abridges freedom of speech and freedom of the press. I believed that, as an American citizen, I have these sacred rights as a given. I acknowledge now that I was wrong.
Until I'm assured of these Constitutional freedoms and rights, I'll stop editing news reports and opinion editorials about US wars and the Israeli occupation of Palestine, hoping that the campaign against my employer stops.....
The campaign seems to have started by a person called Rusty Shackleford in http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/ , then echoed by other websites and media, several of which urged people to write letters to officials in the State of Georgia, particularly in the institution I work with.
We humbly accept credit. Thank you to Jawa Report readers for helping in this campaign.
Let's not get too excited, though. His website will still remain up, although he claims it will no longer discuss the war on terror. He also claims he will no longer be editor, but that readers will be free to post. Which may just be a way of disclaiming his readers' support for terror. You know, the it wasn't me that claimed 9/11 was an inside job, it was one of my readers defense. Which is a legitimate defense, if it wasn't for the fact that any comments published at al Jazeerah are still going to have to go through El-Najjar. In other words, he's not really stepping down as editor, only as a writer.
So, good riddance. If it really is good riddance.
Let me just say a few things in response to Dr. Hassan A. El-Najjar's claims he makes in the statement.
1) Al Jazeerah is not a 'peace' website, as he claims. Dr. El-Najjar's website openly supports terror organizations. For instance, Shaikh Ahamed Yassin, the founder of Hamas, is called a 'martyr' on it. Hamas is a specially designated terrorist organization by the U.S. State Department.
2) He claims he is being censored. The Constitution may give him the right to spin all sorts of conspiracy theories (such as one in which he suggests that there is no Muslim on Muslim violence in Iraq, rather it is Coalition forces intentionally killing civilians to make Muslims look bad), but it also give me the right to speak out against him. That same First Amendment guarantees the right of petition, which is exactly what we are doing when we demand that Dalton State College fire this terror supporter.
Further, the First Amendment protects neither sedition nor support for the enemies of the United States. The latter is called treason. And sedition and treason is exactly what Dr. El-Najjar engages in every time he supports the Iraqi 'resistance'.
What may be the most ironic about his crying 'censorship' is that his website explicitly endorses groups such as Hamas which wish to impose Islamic law. Groups which would impose state sanctions on any who would dare criticize Mohammed or who would make it illegal for a Muslim to convert to Buddhism.
They suppport the First Amendment as long as it protects their incitements to violence, but wish to ditch its principles the moment they come to power.
3) While he may not openly discuss his antisemitic conspiracy theories in class, or try to recruit students for suicide-bombings between lectures, when Dr. El-Najjar encourages his students to visit his website (which I am told he does), he has crossed a line. Dalton State College cannot try to distance itself from the fact that they are paying the salary of a man who supports terrorism outside the classroom. He is now using his position as a professor to encourage that terrorism. The state of Georgia is then, de facto, supporting terror!
So, forcing him to stop publicly endorsing terrorism doesn't exactly seem all that draconian to me. Call me sentimental, but I recall a time when those who supported our enemies during a shooting war were put in prison.
Good work Team America, but more work remains.
more...
1"...which abridges freedom of speech and freedom..."
This guy needs to STFU. Under Islamic rule, the first things to go are the freedom of conscience and freedom speech and broadly personal liberty.
Well done JAWA's, well done! Clearly the infidel force is strong with you :-)
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at April 09, 2007 12:56 PM (j97MF)
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So he's going to be a sock puppet master in chief now? lol... I am sure we could continue the campaign to expose that aspect of propaganda also since as you said any comments published at al Jazeerah are still going to have to go through El-Najjar.
Keep up the good work!
Posted by: Kamchatka Bear at April 09, 2007 12:57 PM (gtZwa)
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Jeez, you peeps are psychos - get yourself a life, and perhaps a consultation with a therapist!
Posted by: Darth Odie at April 09, 2007 01:41 PM (YHZAl)
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"Jeez, you peeps are psychos - get yourself a life, and perhaps a consultation with a therapist!
Posted by: A at April 09, 2007 01:31 PM "
Apparently Mr. El-Najjar or his like is keeping an eye on the Java republic now... could this be a prelude to another "don't hate me cause I am beautiful" terrori... I mean CAIR's whining?
Posted by: Kamchatka Bear at April 09, 2007 01:58 PM (gtZwa)
You want to see a pathetic psycho? Go look in the mirror, preferably as you are detonating your suicide belt. Oh and welcome to The Jawa Report you and your terrorist sympathizing buddies worst nightmare I hope you enjoy your visit as much as we enjoy exposing your for the brain dead brainwashed terrorist sympathizing pedophile loving Islamic apologist that you are.
Posted by: doriangrey at April 09, 2007 02:21 PM (XvkRd)
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So now we shut it down we are getting their loyal viewers like A coming over.
Posted by: Randman at April 09, 2007 02:36 PM (Sal3J)
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Well Mr A. How does it feel being a pawn in a chess game? You are dispensible. You follow the leadership of your kind and guess what? You lose. Your leaders are cowards and will fold into the background until the heat is off. Some leadership. You will take the fall for these people and they don't give a damn about you. How many in high leadership have been martyrs? None, zero, zilch, none. They are not stupid you are. You follow the teachings of these islamic sympathizers and you are on a collision course. Again I ask you how many leaders have been martyrs? Damn they do not want to blow themselves up as it is painful. that is why they leave the dirty work to unsusppecting followers. Do you want to be checkmated or do you want to wake up and realize what has happened to you? There are no virgins waiting for you only a place on a website saluting martyrs.. You want to be known like that? There are no stairsteps into paradise by killing people and yourself. Maybe you are not choosing martydome but following this course will lead to it. People do not kill innocent people only criminals do that.
Posted by: allahakchew at April 09, 2007 03:16 PM (BrndJ)
Posted by: allahakchew at April 09, 2007 03:21 PM (BrndJ)
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Sorry, but myself and the rest of the alphabet agree with A ... you guys are pathetic losers with superiority complexes. But because you are amongst the last 87 pissy-pant frightened jingoists in the country still supporting the "War on Terror", we find you endlessly amusing and will return.
Posted by: Darth Odie at April 09, 2007 04:52 PM (YHZAl)
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hmm... listen to yourselves.
Dont you dare call your selves Americans. a true American would value the Bill of Rights which guarantee FREEDOM OF SPEECH are you that AFRAID that Americans would see the truth about what is going on on the other side of the world. FYI only US Americans dont see the truth on our TV's... go check out what Europeans see on the 6'o clock news. As an American i feel SORRY for people like you and for the future of America the home of the FREE.. you are trying to destroy this freedom.
Posted by: Donna at April 09, 2007 06:16 PM (/0/sV)
You dont have the slightest clue what being a true American means, in fact the only thing you know is how to suck dick. So with that said bitch...SUCK MY DICK.................
Posted by: doriangrey at April 09, 2007 06:46 PM (XvkRd)
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That bragging moslem named Hassan El Najjar, is typical islamic propaganda machine mouth and/or parrot. Let's see what he wrote in his site:
1st paragraph: ..... between the US and the Arab and Muslim world ..etc..
USA is the land of peace and the land of freedom .. what you call arab and muslim worlds (i.e. countries) are actually countries that have been occupied by your islam sometime during the history..and it is the time for every one around the world to know and realize this fact specially you and your sisters and brothers of islam .
2nd paragraph: some people apprently neither like peace nor tolerate ... etc..
Yes .. and those some people are you moslems .. you are following exactly what your islam, your koran and your books of hadeeth stipulate very clearly and what had been applied by your mohamed, piece of stool be upon him and his followers.
3rd paragraph: a letter writing campaign ..etc..
Yes again .. you know exactly that you are getting your salary from the pocket of the tax payers who have the full right to stop your nonsense and twisting of facts .
4th paragraph: you have concluded that it is not safe ...etc..
Yes again ... see how generous I am agreeing with your statements for the 3rd time.. wink ... yes .. it is not safe .. you better go back to the 'paradise' you came from and leave this USA with her amendments and her people to the real people of America.. and make sure you take all your family members with you and am sure they will love it so much in your 'paradise' and thank you for it deeply.
5th paragraph: no one can assure you any thing to that effect.. in the contrary .. we want you, if you can of course, to assure us that you will stop your lies based on the islamic propaganda machine and the scripture of your koran and the books of hadeeth.. then we may consider you a person not one of these creatures ending with ..oaches.. because again .. your lies are very clear .. when you say US wars and the Israeli occupation of Palestine.. for your information mr bragging moslem, Israel LIBERATED her holy lands in 1967 from the filthy hands of islam that occupied it long time ago .. capitch ?? and by the way .. the name is NOT Palestine.. it is PHilistine .. go open any dictionary to know the meaning of it. after that know that Phillistine is applicable on what is known today as Gaza Strip .. guess you know the real history but you chose to lie about it as does all the moslems
.6th and 7th paragraphs do not need any comments from me.. they are just a continuation of your allegations and show business.
8th paragraph: .... for the US and Israel to adopt peaceful resolutions ...etc..
who are you to decide for US and Israel to decide what to do when and how?? and for your info.. I would suggest for you to take your ideas to your fellow moslems and tell them to throw the koran and the books of hadeeth in the nearst trash pin and try their best to be humans.. and this is not going to happen untill they, including you, quite the satanic cult named islam.
9th paragraph: The Israelis have been living in a continuous state of war for 60 years ..
yes again .. but not for 60 years ONLY .. it is for 1427 since day one of your criminal Mohamed and his gang named islam who committed the ethnical crime when he finish all the jews and christians who were available in mecca and maddina long time before him and looted their properties and considered it as booty .. 4/5 of the booties to the members of the gang and 1/5 to him and his allah .. for your info, the crime still exists till today's date .. and according to the International Law, such a crime doesn't drop by the elapse of time.. i.e. it is the right of the jews of today and the christians of today, to bring your Mohamed and his successors before an international court and also entitles them to claim proper compensations alongwith the accumulated interests from that date till the date of payment.. so you see, denying the facts makes you, and all moslems as well, keep turning in circles.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 09, 2007 09:54 PM (Ro9X7)
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Donna...your ignorance knows no bounds. If we are so evil and the Euro News is manna from heaven what is keeping you from moving from this Orwellian nightmare to the utopia of Europe where you can wrap yourself in the smug blanket of self righteousness.
Posted by: Randman at April 09, 2007 10:23 PM (Sal3J)
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Donna, see how free you are when the islamofascists which your currently defending, impose Sharia law upon you, then expect you to submit to it whether you are Muslim, or not. Sharia always destroys freedom where it becomes law. I can only presume you are uneducated. If your getting your education at a University, your probably miseducated. Your scores in grammer, and spelling may be awesome, but your clueless about the real threats to freedom. Stick around, and learn something. Please.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 10, 2007 03:49 AM (2OHpj)
U.S. Military Now Engaging In Cyberwarfare Against Online Jihadis?
Is the U.S. military now on an offensive war footing against the cyber-jihadis and cyber-terrorists? Maybe, but Magic 8-ball says YES. As you know, I've been advocating--no more than just advocating, agitating--for precisely the offensive strategy since day one. And you know what? People read this blog.
What kind of people? Top men. Sorry, whenever I get excited I break into dialogue from Raiders of the Lost Ark.
In any event, those top men also read Internet Haganah. And Aaron's agitation far precedes our own. And the strategy, at least in theory, seems to go back at least to 2003.
There are few times when we at The Jawa Report get so stoked that we, literally, break into the robot dance. Okay, so it's just me who is that lame, but we are all excited about this news that our official Iranophobe "John Doe" dug up this morning.
I still am of the opinion that, organizationally, the decentralized nature of the cyber-jihad requires a decentralized fix---"cyber-privateering" as it were. But with the right leadership, the right values, the right equipment, the right operators, and the right sized set of cajones, the "cyber-scorched earth" approach could work.
Keep your fingers crossed and remember to smile when you call me Dr. William Tecumseh Sherman, partner.
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Video: Global Terror Alert Cybercast II
Evan Kohlmann of the Counterterrorism Blog and of Global Terror Alert's newest cybercast. Video below. It's worth the 16 minutes of your time if you want to get up to date on recent terrorist developments. Of special interest to Jawa Report readers will be found at @ the 6 minute mark, legal charges filed against a Missouri-based Islamic charity which was really a terror front, and the 8 minute mark, the arrest of a jihadi webmaster in Spain.
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Do you see how deeply sinister the mo-slime psyche is? The embodiment of evil!
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at March 27, 2007 04:59 PM (j97MF)
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It sickens me to watch pix of attacks on our own. I do believe they are weakining. From the websites i have been momitoring there seems to be a real push for martyrs. Where there were several comments there is maybe 1 or 2. Maybe that is the reason for using children/mentally chanllenged/ animals for their suicide attacks. God I hope I am right.
Posted by: allahahachew at March 27, 2007 05:47 PM (BrndJ)
Video: Lieberman on Radicalization of Muslims in U.S.
Wow, it seems like Lieberman "gets it". Towards the end, he begins to talk about the role of the internet, mosques, and Islamic jail ministries as possible sources for radicalization. The video is of March 14th. If any one has more of the video, or related items, I'd like to see it.
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Excellent. I figured Joe for an allright guy back years ago, and was actually shocked he'd have anything to do with AL Gore. When that happened, he fell considerably in my estimation of him, and I almost wrote him off as another of the loony left. Over time it looks more like the looney left have hijacked the Democrat party, because the party used to uphold mainstream American values. Joe is an old school Democrat. I can actually like him
USA, all the way
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 26, 2007 08:11 PM (2OHpj)
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Looks like this is to be an ongoing thing. Must be driving some dems crazy. Have to do some more searching for more of this. The comments were "precious" especially the first one "fear, fear, fear". We had quite a thunderstorm today, hope they remembered to take off their tin foil hats.....not......
Posted by: allahakchew at March 26, 2007 10:34 PM (BrndJ)
Looks like Omar Bakri Mohammed is Having a Bad Day
Al Qaeda supporting British Muslim cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed's life just seems to keep getting worse and worse. I mean, first he is forced to flee the U.K. when his followers began to be arrested for advocating the murder of those who would dare mock Muhammed in cartoon form. If that wasn't hard enough on poor old Bakri-the-goat-humper-Muhammed's financial situation, it looks like the funds he was raising from his British followers through his website--registered to a London address--have also dried up.
Posted by: Darth Odie at March 25, 2007 12:21 AM (YHZAl)
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Sadly it sounds as if he is still having a very good day, good as in he hasn’t gotten one of those terrible splitting headaches that that those of his ilk get every time a fast moving piece of lead goes through their mind.
He's such an alleged mastermind of 9/11, we've been hearing about his alleged mastermindedness since, oh, 9/12 or thereabouts.
Even Hollywood went so far as to (gasp!) portray him as the mastermind behind 9/11 in the appropriately titled "The Path to 9/11."
Look, Mr. Pentagon Guys, the American public doesn't need a reason to hang Khalid the Sheep Humping Sheik Mohammed. Releasing this will feed the media monster for a day at best, before they go back to whining that they don't have access to these hearings.
Leak transcripts of the really good stuff coming from the guys off the radar.
Make them publish that. And if they don't, well, my email is vinceautmorire at gmail dot com.
News Flash : Cojones Spotted on GOP House Leadership
The article sucks, but the story is friggin' sweet:
WASHINGTON - A House Republican leadership group said Monday that Democrats should retract an offer to let the nation's largest Islamic civil liberties organization use a Capitol conference room for a seminar.
The House Republican Conference referred to the Council on American-Islamic Relations as "terrorist apologists" and called on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record) to cancel the forum scheduled for Tuesday.
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Keep up the pressure on CAIR. It works. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 12, 2007 04:28 PM (2OHpj)
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The only thing that is going to win the war on terror is the complete slaughter of all arabs and muslims. it has now been 6 years since sep 11 and no progress has been made.
Our precious young soldiers are dying for subhuman filth in Iraq. When we kill the last arab and muslim child we will truly have peace.
God Bless America
Posted by: John Sheldon at March 12, 2007 06:26 PM (DCZ7U)
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Careful John, they're start calling you a racist.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 12, 2007 06:29 PM (eGb9y)
these filthy people have attacked us repeatedly over and over, they do not care about their own lives let alone ours. any rational sane individual can see that the only solution is to remove the problem.
the problem facing this planet right now are arabs and muslim converts. get rid of them and the problem is solved.
Posted by: John Sheldon at March 12, 2007 06:39 PM (DCZ7U)
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John you are on the right track. I can't understand why some folk want to act friendly towards muslims when all they ever do is take liberties and poison our society. From what I've read on here lately it seems as though the US is becoming just as apologetic to islam as the UK.
Posted by: Jester at March 12, 2007 07:18 PM (iwtIO)
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I'm getting some use from being selectively polite to Muslims. I'd hold up the end result as being worthwhile to anyone here. When I'm done, you will see what you think. I bet I'm right. But by all means I do support killing the active enemy in the field in the meantime. And I'm not a racist. Are enemies tend to identify themsleves in thier actions, not the color of thier skin.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 12, 2007 11:18 PM (2OHpj)
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John Sheldon: You racist, nazi, kkk, storm front, aryan nation soldier. How dare you? I'll have you know Rusty has some pet muslims he watches football with to prove he's not a racist.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 13, 2007 07:22 AM (W7E9s)
A Brief Guide to Profiling Domestic Jihad Terrorists
Javier Jordán & Fernando M. Mañas of the University of Granada have written an academic analysis of "External Signs of Radicalization and Jihadist Militancy", and posted a link at Jihad Monitor. It seems like pretty common-sensical stuff, but most of it falls into the category of "profiling", and therefore the politically correct amongst us will cry foul.
It should be noted that most of these "signs" would be better understood as "changes". For example, a young Muslim male who seemed assimilated but then suddenly began to change his appearance and behavior. Also, none of these "changes" would be a definitive indicator of impending jihad. Like all "profiling", they are simple shortcuts to help put likely suspects on the radar screen. A much more careful look at an individual would be needed before one could conclude that they were a threat.
You'll note that one of the signs is "it is frequent that they spend dozens of hours each week visiting and reading websites, forums and downloadable files (text, audio, and video) of an openly jihadist nature."
*Growing of the beard--at times shaving only the moustache
*Cutting the hair very close to the head
*Very short fingernails
*Traditional Islamic dress like turban, hat, or jelaba--wide pants
*Pants don't reach to feet, or pinning of the pants up.
*Refusing to wear shorts, even for sports
*Small callous on forehead (sign of devotion)
*Sudden weight loss
*MOST DANGEROUS: After a considerable length of "devoutness" in appearance, a sudden switch to Western style dress and look.
Behavioral Changes:
*Scrupulous attention to that which is permitted (halal) and that which is forbidden (harem)
--often accompanied by frequent inquiries to religious leaders on what is permitted
*Tensions with family over new-found religious purity
*Withdrawal and social polarization, especially from the non-believer (kafir)
*Increase use of religious rhetoric when speaking of political events
--often using Quranic quotes, and especially telling would be frequent quotes from the hadiths and sunna (sayings of the Prophet and stories of his life)
*Selective exposure to media
--especially visits to Islamist websites and forums
*Interest in early years of Islam
*Increasingly aggressive nature
In addition to these individual behaviors, the paper also recognizes that certain group behaviors might also indicate impending acts of terrorism. Read the rest. Thanks to Nancy for the tip.
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ARRGGG!!! I'm a filthy jihadi!!!! I answered yes to 11.
But is yes the right answer if I pay scrupulous attention to harem always avoiding halal? And what if I selectively expose myself only to anti-islamic media?
Posted by: John Galt at March 08, 2007 04:11 PM (Q5fOm)
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Forget the analysis...all muslims are potential terrorists and fascists. It goes hand in hand with their set of beliefs. Deport them all from the west and let them wipe each other out.
Posted by: Jester at March 08, 2007 04:18 PM (iwtIO)
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Jester ... everyone is a potential terrorist. Islam currently poses a global, and existential threat, true! Don't think that marxism isn't breeding monsters in your home town just because Islam gets most of the sunshine! Your counter-marxists are also casually described as potential terrorists because they scare the left so much, so what are you going to do? Don't persecute people. Uphold those All-American values and encourage others to embrace them.
But it's still Ok to profile the guys who wear swastika's, or praise bin Laden in clever, yet legal ways. Or people in Che' shirts.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 08, 2007 06:04 PM (2OHpj)
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I've never persecuted a muslim or any group. It is the muslim who has persecuted me with their insistence on changing the society I love to meet their own twisted needs.
I couldn't care less about Marxism it has never encroached on my life the same way Islam has.
I'm not American and have my own values to uphold which may be similar to yours but also different.
My kin shed blood fighting the Japs and the Nazis and I hate the swastika.
Don't get me wrong I'm far from perfect but can't see any merits to Islam and I detest all it stands for. Live among the muslim and see the scum they are.
We fought for our nation, they arrived here, freeload and want to change everything on the back of our taxes and tradition. The bastards were even pro-Nazi during WW2. What good has Islam done for the UK?......NOTHING. UK all the way!
Posted by: Jester at March 08, 2007 06:37 PM (iwtIO)
The mall near my house is full of 15 year old terrorists.
Posted by: slug at March 08, 2007 09:43 PM (tQiUE)
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Everyone should listen to Jester's comment. It's true you know. Even if you know one who is posing as a nice neighbor. OUTLAW ISLAM
Posted by: greyrooster at March 09, 2007 12:30 AM (37Xvs)
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My neighbor is a white pelican. It's bullshit, Professors right on about this one. This country welcomes ANYONE who wants to be an American as it well should. Jester is pissed because the libs took over his country and now cow tows to threats rather than living up to their great history and kicking the living shit out of anyone who tried to attack them, except for the 1776 thing... and then there was WWII, we kind of had to bail your ass out there too but hey, we're all in it together. Other than treaing the Irish like shit but if you hadn't they never would of come here and the North would of lost the civil war. Damn Irish are tough.... are there any black Irish?
Posted by: wb at March 09, 2007 08:45 PM (kkUy5)
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Ah! the black Irish. They had to go. The problem with the English is they are far too close to france. The Brits have always been known as the bravest nation in the world. Can these barbarians from the middle east shrink the balls of the English? God I hope not. For years I have been waiting for the Brits to rise up and put their country back together. All I can say is I support the Brits in every way I can. I and mine will fight for England. But damn it boy. OUTLAW ISLAM.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 09, 2007 09:33 PM (SKtGv)
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And demand British female full frontal nudity too! Well, maybe not the queen or that prince charles gal.... come to think of it not Margret Thatcher either.....
Posted by: wb at March 09, 2007 10:10 PM (kkUy5)
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And why does anyone thing we need more immigration to our country? They can stay where they are and fight to make their country better. To many people here now. Don't believe it. Try and take a drive in Los Angeles.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 11, 2007 01:52 PM (SKtGv)
Muslim Websites Target Georgia Motorist for Death (sticky)
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Two Islamic militant websties have called on Muslims to kill the driver of a Georgia registered vehicle displaying an offensive bumper sticker. On February 28 the "Black Lion" blog, a website run by two American Muslim who support violent jihad, posted the license plate number of a Gwinnett County, Georgia motorist displaying a bumper sticker which read, "Kill em all, let Allah sort em out.†A thinly veiled threat encouraging Muslims to find the driver and kill him was also posted.
Another Muslim offended, another death threat issued.
Jawa Report reader "Louise", who found the post, has contacted the Gwinnett County Chief of Police's office but says that they have not gotten back to her. Further, she reports that the person who took her call said, "what do you want me to do about it?" For starters, how about finding the person targetted for death and letting them know that their life may be in danger?!?! Then, how about contacting the FBI, just down the road in Atlanta, so they can open an
investigation!?!?
In the meantime, "The Black Lion" blog removed the death threat from their website.
However, another U.S. based militant Islamist website picked up the post and republished it. In a post celebrating the shooting down of an American helicopter in Iraq, a "Join the Caravan" author identified as "Mujahida3001" republishes the earlier threat made by "The Black Lion":
Another blogger who gets few hits per day has e-mailed me and told me of a truck he saw with a decal on it saying “Kill em all, let Allah sort em out.†He was kind enough to give me the license tag number, too. Georgia tag [tag number is shown in actual post] Gwinnett County
Just thought I’d share that with you.
This is baraa [enmity]. If he wants to repeat the quote of one of the crusader generals during the first crusades in Jerusalem, then no, I do not care about his safety. I care about his lack of it. He shouldn’t feel any security at all.
So, Muslims, do whatever you can get away with.
Take care and keep it militant. [emphasis mine]
The entire website is devoted to encouraging violent jihad against American citizens. Ironically, the website displays an image of a child wearing the uniform of Hezabollah right next to a post about "Why dirty Shia are not Muslim".
A whois search shows that "Join the Caravan" is hosted by an American company, Wordpress. It is registered to an address in Glendale Heights, Illinois.
The "Black Lion" blog is hosted by a subdivision of the California based internet giant, Google. In the past, Google's blogspot division have refused to take down websites supporting murder and violent jihad on the grounds of "free speech".
In the most recent post at "The Black Lion", the author praises the work of the al Qaeda front group, The Islamic State of Iraq, for murdering 18 Iraqis on a recent video posted to the internet.* The murders were allegedly in retaliation for a well publicized propaganda piece by al Qaeda that accuses Shia Iraqi soldiers of raping a Sunni woman.
Congratulations to the mujahideen who captured and killed the hostages from the apostate security forces of Iraq, in exchange for the rape of our sister Sabrine. 18 killed for one rape. ALLAHU AKBAR!
So, who is it that posted the original death threat at "The Black Lion"?
1) We know he is in Georgia.
2) One of the two authors of the blog recently created a scene at "a Chinese embassy in North America" and was threatened with arrest, but it appears he was merely kicked out. The author says he went into the embassy and "punked" them by using one of their computers to access "Chinese servers" and then started shouting out Free Tibet slogans.
But the author is no follower of the nonviolent Dalai Lama, instead he praises violent resistance to the Communist government ("This is because I hate Communism and atheism even more than I detest liberal democracies")--including suicide bombing ("which I do not advocate for anyone who has access to better weapons and attack methods") as an example for Muslims to follow.
So, if you're a Georgia motorist with a bumper sticker which Muslims might find offensive, beware!**
UPDATE: Patrick from Clarity and Resolve found the Google cache of the original death threat on Black Lion. It's identical to the one posted at Join the Caravan. Patrick just notified me that their not identical. Google cache didn't catch it this time.
I've taken a few snapshots of the webpages, just in case they take the threats down and pretend it never happened.
UPDATE II: Dan Riehl did some Googling on "Mujahida3001". You won't be surprised what he found.
UPDATE 3/08/07: Both websites now seem to be down. Perhaps we pwned them?
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Reading this makes me in the mood for more Stuck Mojo..."Open Season". If you're interested... there's an "Open Season-CAIR remix" out on http://euphoricreality.com/2007/01/31/stuck-mojo-music-video-open-season/ that's quite interesting. The original version is before and the remix is about half way down the page. The lyrics are captioned, so NSFW.
Posted by: catseye at March 07, 2007 01:38 PM (X+AwP)
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Maybe Louise should call the feds herself or send something through their handy dandy internet tip line.
Posted by: jane at March 07, 2007 03:16 PM (XXEg4)
Posted by: allahakchew at March 07, 2007 03:39 PM (BrndJ)
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Go Rusty! Google, Web hosts, Daily Kos and Raw Story all deny the connection between hate, violence advocacy, and violence. Advocacy of murder is not free speech. I have confronted such speech on Raw Story for months (with some success). My key observation is that Hate wants to hide, and widely publishing the perpetrators' identities does give them pause. The citizen alliance can stop them peacefully with determined, combined effort.
Posted by: DemocracyRules at March 07, 2007 03:39 PM (L/SIz)
Posted by: Dick at March 07, 2007 05:00 PM (XlQVK)
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Whoa this is a first, Black Lion is answering current posts that no likey him. What he is saying puts him in deeper although he does say Canada alot,
"My screen name is Lion for a reason, one of which is that I'm waiting with a nine millimeter for the day the FBI kicks in my door, or the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, or the Royal Cayman Islands Police for that matter, or the Royal Bahamian Police. That's because when they come, it will be because I called for Shariah to be implemented and for all other systems to be subjugated to it, and for Allah to be worshipped as a true Lord of a universe and not just a spirit floating around in temples and churches. It won't be because I was a threat to you."
Posted by: allahakchew at March 07, 2007 05:02 PM (BrndJ)
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To: ALLAHAKCHEW Since when does being a dissociating psychopath entitle you to special political privileges?
Posted by: DemocracyRules at March 07, 2007 06:51 PM (L/SIz)
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Looks like it may be time to arrange a little safari to the Atlanta area and take a few trophies. I guess we'll see.
What do we want the police to do about it? How about shutting the hell
up and keeping their sorry asses at Krispy Kreme while we take care of
business, but if they interefere, they can go the same way. Screw the
useless police and the rest of the government; it's time for a little
righteous revolution in this country.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 07, 2007 08:43 PM (eGb9y)
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How can I order a gross of them bumper stickers. I plan to visit a black muslim mosque parking lot with them. Then God can sort them out.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 07, 2007 09:03 PM (wTIrf)
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Allah is a punk and his followers are nothing but big mouthed cowardly punks who don't know what a bath is.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 07, 2007 09:08 PM (wTIrf)
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I have an American Infidel sticker on the back of my vehicle and an H&K USP .45 beside my seat. Bring you Islamic fags.
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at March 07, 2007 09:08 PM (ou0cx)
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Allahachew: Your stupid muslim name sounds like a cat coughing up a fur ball. In fact all you worshippers of the phedophile mohammed the sick sound like a cat coughing up fur balls. When has a muslim ever stood up with his nine. You islamic imbeciles have never had the balls to do anything but shoot people with their hands tied. Muslim = coward. I still remember you brave islamic pricks crawling out of your trenches and kissing the feet of our soldiers. What kind of animal does that? A dog. That's what you are. Dogs. Nothing more. I piss on mohammed and I piss on you. Now go get your Alpo, scratch your fleas and lick your balls like a good muslim.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 07, 2007 09:45 PM (wTIrf)
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Rooster, If you weren't so drunk you would see he's tried to quote the other website you just can't see it. formatting didn't take. leme try and fix.
Posted by: Darth Odie at March 07, 2007 09:50 PM (YHZAl)
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Could there possibly be a better reason to throw all those pig fucking camel cock sucking followers of a pedophile out of this country???
I've
been accused of making death threats that I actually didn't make,
though in hindsight I know how it could have been taken as such. It
never occurred tome that a Muslim could get away with killing someone
for a decal on his truck that another Muslim told me he saw, even with
the tag number posted. Who's gonna tell a Muslim where the driver lives
or who she or he is? Still, I've been accused, and I've heard that I'm
being referred to the FBI since some local police won't do anything.
But even still, a bunch of us were already under surveillance in Laredo
where I was briefly. FBI and locals alike were spying on us and
watching us. Despite having broken no laws yet, at least not in the US,
I'm not making anyone's job easy for them. I'll
be out of the country for a few weeks, I'm already in Mexico now. Time
for talk is over. I'll finish the preparation stage outside of the US,
but I'm done talking. Inshallahshaheed and Join the Caravan are more than adequate for the knowledge, and Dawood and African Lion are more than adequate for the politics. My voice will be silent, as I have more work to do, anyway. To my supporters, thank you very much. To my detractors, goodbye for good. In a few hours, someone with access to my blog will close it down completely. Salaam alaykumwarahmatullahwabarakatuhu to the Muslims. Take care and keep it militant.
So here we see another example of Muslim scum doing what comes natural, making plans to kill someone and then lying about it. Say yo, doesn’t it just kill you that you are to old for that pedophile Mohammad?
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I AM A AMERICAN SAILOR. WHEN I WENT TO OEF I KILLED MUSLIMS WITH ALL THE PRIDE IN THE WORLD. WHEN I WAS IN OIF I KILLED MUSLIMS WITH EVEN GREATER PRIDE. YES THEY DID KISS OUR FEET DURING SHOCK AND AWE. I MANAGED TO STEP ON THEM AND BUST THEIR ASS WHILE THEY WERE FRISKED. I KILLED MUSLIMS AND I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO KILL MORE OF THEM. I ADMIT I AM FULL OF HATE AND RAGE, BECAUSE OF ISLAM I HATE. I WAS GIVEN A KORAN (SHIT BE UPON YOU) AND I MADE SURE TO WIPE MY ASS WITH IT AND TEAR PARTS OF IT UP IN FRONT OF MUSLIMS. I RIPPED UP MUSLIMS KORANS AND SPIT ON THEM LIKE THEY DO TO MY FLAG. I AM MORE THEN WILLING TO DIE FOR THAT FLAG, NOT BECAUSE I WILL GO TO SOME LOONY IDEA OF HEAVEN. I AM WILLING BECAUSE I AM DOING WHAT IT RIGHT. IF ANYONE DOES NOT LIKE ME FUCK YOU FUCK YOUR LIFE. THE ONLY WAY TO FIGHT THIS WAR IS TO STOOP TO THEIR LEVEL AND GO BEYOND THEIR LIMITS NO MATTER WHERE THAT TAKES YOU. I HAVE STUCK TO THE LAW BY THE LETTER. I HAVE CONTACTED THE FBI OVER AND OVER BUT THOSE PUSSY MOTHER FUCKERS ARE TOO STUPID OR SCARED OF MUZZIES TO CALL ME BACK. I DO NOT PLAY GAMES ON THE NET. I MEAN WHAT I SAY. I WILL SAY THIS IN COURT. I WILL SAY THIS AS I TEAR THE FETUS OUT OF A MUSLIM WHORE HOLDING A TERRORIST BABY IN HER VILE WOMB. AMERICA WILL WIN THE WAR ON TERROR NOT BY BIENG PUSSIES THOUGH. WE CAN ONLY WIN IF WE ARE STRONG AND START TO CARE LESS WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK LIKE THE FRENCH COWARDS AND CANADA (THE HOME OF MOOCHING OFF AMERICA BY PROXY. I CAN HARDLY GO TO COLLEGE BECASUE OF THE INJURIES I RECIEVED IN IRAQ, AND THE VA IS 100% UNCOOPERATIVE IN HELPING ME WITH MY PROVEN SERVICE RELATED INJURIES. I HAVE GIVEN MY ALL FOR YOU AMERICA AND YOU SHIT IN MY FACE IN RETURN BUT I CONTINUE TO DEFEND YOU. FUCK YOU KERRY, FUCK YOU HILLARY, FUCK YOU LIBERALS. SUCK MY BALLS. COME TRY ME MUZZIES, I AM NEAR DEARBORNISTAN SO YOU WALKING CORPSES DO NOT HAVE TO TRAVEL FAR. I WILL DRINK YOUR SOUL.
HEY SORRY FOR ALL THE VILE BUT I AM TIRED, I AM HURT, I NEVER FEEL GOOD ANYMORE, I AM ALWAYS IN PAIN. I AM TOLD THAT I AM BAD IF I THINK ABOUT MY WELL BIENG. APPARENTLY THE WHOLE WORLD MAY WHINE ABOUT ANYTHING BUT I AM HELD TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD. I DO NOT KNOW HOW LONG I CAN LIVE WITH THIS PAIN I FEEL. I AM TERRIFIED BY THE VA, I AM NOT GETTING ANY HELP.
BLESS YOU ALL POSTERS ON JAWA IT IS AMERICANS LIKE YOU THAT ALLOW ME TO MAKE IT THROUGH ANOTHER DAY. YOUR LOYAL SAILOR BARRY
Posted by: BARRY BAKER KILLER OF MUSLIMS at March 07, 2007 10:52 PM (/etUv)
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God I hate islam. I got my Mighty Mo bobblehead proudly displayed on my dash. Come and get me, islamic faggots!!!
Posted by: REMF at March 07, 2007 11:11 PM (lnZTL)
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Darth: Am I reading wrong? Correct I was more than a little shit faced when posting the above. But still don't get it and I'm sober at 6:00 AM.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 08, 2007 07:17 AM (wTIrf)
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Killer of muslims: If you care to E-mail me I will ensure that the few caring people in the VA contact you. The very large VA hospital and facilities in Biloxi, Ms were destroyed by Katrina. So far, I have'nt seen any effort to rebuild. I do not know how far our local vets must travel for assistance. But I'm going to find out how far and why. Bet on that. I'll start with Trent Lott today and continue until I get an acceptable answer. Keep cool. The government is a very big machine dedicated 100% to its employees. Serving themselves is more important that serving those like you. However, I have found that if you shake the right tree things begin to fall.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 08, 2007 07:29 AM (wTIrf)
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greyrooster, That was funny. My nic means "sneezing nasty mo germs out of my nose", although I like your definition better. I tried to copy a paragraph from ""Black Lion" and post it but it ended up looking kinda like I said it.
Posted by: allahakchew at March 08, 2007 08:41 AM (BrndJ)
Posted by: allahakchew at March 08, 2007 08:43 AM (BrndJ)
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#20 killer of muslims, thank you sir for killing all those rag heads! No need to apologize for your words. Venting is good. Did you see greyroosters #23 post? If not please read it as he may be ale to help you. I salute you sir for your service and remember there is a heck of a lot more like me that feel this way but the MSM doesn't think patriotism is newsworthy. Well I am off to see what wannabe jihadist are doing.
Posted by: allahakchew at March 08, 2007 09:23 AM (BrndJ)
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Rooster, I thinkhe tried to quote another site but the formatting on this new comment thingy is hard to deal with. So all I could get to take was a ,"quoteinhere"
# 20 is a troll sock puppet.
Posted by: Darth Odie at March 08, 2007 10:24 AM (YHZAl)
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Darth Odie Thanks. #20 I am real steamed about the troll sock puppet.. Words cannot express my hatred for this person so I put a hex on him. He sure is going to miss his computer...heh
Posted by: allahakchew at March 08, 2007 11:02 AM (BrndJ)
Posted by: greyrooster at March 08, 2007 12:32 PM (wTIrf)
30
No need to apologize as I thought it was funny you mistook me for one of them.. If I had been one of them you did a good job!
Posted by: allahakchew at March 08, 2007 03:04 PM (BrndJ)
31
Thank you for your concern. I hope you can help. Let me get you a letter in the next few days after you email me. here is my address. legrandbake@gmail.com My name is Barry Baker and live in the Detroit area ( oh muzzies if you want bacon wiped on your wife and kids come on over I'll hook you up)
I will start putting a letter together now so I can let you know of my ordeal.
Posted by: BARRY BAKER KILLER OF MUSLIMS at March 08, 2007 05:48 PM (/etUv)
32
Good deal. Doing something worthwhile will be a refreshing change to spending my time attempting to change these liberals in disquise.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 08, 2007 09:54 PM (37Xvs)
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Barry: I'm going to Jackson, Ms. on Monday. My wife is giving two Rv's to the feds. One to the Border patrol and one to fish and wildlife. Probably some press there. Give me something to start with by Sunday evening. Just a start, you can add later. Should be a good time to ask a favor.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 08, 2007 10:04 PM (37Xvs)
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#31 Barry, Sorry, I thought you were a troll after reading a post.
Good luck & God bless!
Posted by: allahakchew at March 09, 2007 08:33 AM (BrndJ)
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Hey Barry, instead of venting about muslims on an inbred redneck forum filled with armchair commandos maybe you should vent at the government for not giving you medical help you require. The above rant sounds like what a soldier would say to a military psychiatrist, before being institutionalized. I'm not sure why you're blaming democrats, for something that the administration and the former secretory of state should have been responsible for (See Walter Reed). Sounds like displaced anger. Sorry to bring some coherence into a drunken hick hatefest.
Posted by: Bobby Boeche at March 10, 2007 03:16 PM (kaMd2)
Ex-Sailor Charged With Spying For Al Qaeda
From ABC News:
March 7, 2007 — A former U.S. Navy sailor has been charged with allegedly passing military secrets about U.S. Navy movements through waters in the Middle East to al Qaeda-related Web sites during the spring of 2001, just months after the USS Cole was attacked in Yemen.
Hassan Abujihaad, formerly known as Paul R. Hall, allegedly passed information about U.S. Navy warship movements in the Straits of Hormuz in April 2001 while he was a member of the Navy. The information passed along contained details about vulnerabilites of U.S. vessels — including susceptibility to small boat attacks by terrorists.
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It's important to give the sailor a fair trial. I remember a similar case from Desert Storm. Some Muslim sailors were accused of sabotaging the USS Ranger, IIRC, but charges were later dropped.
2
Later dropped due to lack of evidence. Muslims should not be in our military or be allowed to hold government office. No one in our military can be comfortable with a muslim next to him. OUTLAW ISLAM.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 08, 2007 07:32 AM (wTIrf)
3
Just because O. J. Simpson was found not quilty does'nt mean he was.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 08, 2007 07:55 AM (wTIrf)
4
Yeah, that trial along with bill clinton committng perjury just about destroyed our jury system. I keep hoping someone will make the top of oj's head pop off while he's out playing golf. Some folks just need killin.
Posted by: wb at March 09, 2007 08:31 PM (kkUy5)
5The Sanity Inspector,
yes give him a fair trial, just make sure the charges against him are TREASON and that political correctness plays no role in the proceedings. That way should he be convicted of treason there will be on one who can object to him receiving the Rosenberg treatment, ride the lightning baby...ride the lightning...
1
Hmmmm....reasoned opinions, passionate, logical debate, and enlightened hope. Refreshing, at least, and ,perhaps, possibilities, perhaps.
Posted by: Edward Lunny at March 07, 2007 06:57 PM (QkaPP)
2
I've been leaning towards the second camp believing that islam cannot survive a reformation since "fear" and "hatred of the other" is the glue that holds it together.
However, after watching these individuals speak, freely expressing their humanity and listening to the declaration to enjoin the standard declaration of human rights and excluding political islam, I wish them all success.
Perhaps they will gain some ground within the western sphere. I have serious doubts about any success in dar al islam.
Posted by: heroyalwhyness at March 07, 2007 07:26 PM (MAPKL)
3
Doesn't appear to be a lot of people in the audience. When I visit Tampa/St Pete I go to the tittie bars. More people there. This moderate, law abiding thing is a two edged sword used to show what nice people muslims are. Twenty out of a million doesn't get my hopes up. The other 999,980 still wish to destroy America and any other religion.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 07, 2007 09:53 PM (wTIrf)
WSJ: Islam's Other Radicals
The Wall Street Journal's Bret Stephens reports on the Secular Islam Summit:
Radicalism, at least of a kind, is certainly what this summit provides via Wafa Sultan. Dr. Sultan, a Syrian-born psychiatrist now living in the U.S., came to widespread public attention last year after she debated a Sunni cleric on al-Jazeera. "Only Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches," she observed. The televised clip, translated by Memri, has been downloaded on YouTube more than a million times.
Dr. Sultan, whose outspokenness has forced her and her family into hiding, is here to receive an award from the Center for Inquiry, the summit's organizer and lead funder. She accepts it by saying: "I don't believe there is any difference between radical Islam and regular Islam."
The view is shared by some, though by no means all, of the conferees. "Salafists cannot imagine Islam without the killing of apostates," says Dr. Hamid, who also now lives in hiding. "To them, the religion is a house of cards: Remove one element, and the whole structure collapses." Another conferee subscribes to the Salafist logic, though he dissents from the religion as a whole. "Truth is," he admits, "to be a Muslim democrat you have to be a bad Muslim."
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"to be a Muslim democrat you have to be a bad Muslim."
Or else re-define "bad"...
Posted by: mojo at March 06, 2007 05:52 PM (g1cNf)
2
More attention to this is a good thing. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 06, 2007 06:04 PM (2OHpj)
3
Ah, the murky water may yet become clearer for many people. Frozen in time? Yep, that's this religion, Isalm. Hasn't yet made it to the next stage of evolution. Our only problem is we must now send a message to those who think their present interpretations will suffice to eradicate all non-believers! Coming soon, our religious leaders will take a front position in asking Islam's leaders to clarify their beliefs and positions relative to this Islamofacist mass movement. At that moment a much larger war will begin on this planet, for all to see. The trouble with a cancer rests in its definition, its composition, those properties which make it so. Culture war again! Let's win, but in doing so we might want to realize that there are many parts of our culture which have strong components of self destruction embedded. The host provides a willing receptor for the cancer...we perhaps should deal with these realities too--in a constructive way, while fighting this war.
Posted by: RJ at March 06, 2007 06:18 PM (yyxO/)
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A TO-DO LIST FOR CANADIAN MUSLIMS -- Advocate democracy to anyone who will listen. Admit it, you want it. Only a fool would turn it down, and that’s why Iraqi’s want democracy, even in the middle of their current crisis. It never hurts to remind people about democracy. Everywhere I go in the West, I meet people who do not really know what democracy is, or what’s so good about it. Here’s a basic kit. Democracy consists of : (1) The people are governed by representatives who are elected by fair and frequent elections, with the President and/or Prime minister also elected, (2) Written laws which can be changed by elected representatives, (3) A final “Basic Law†(Constitution), on which all other laws are based, and it usually has a “Bill of Rightsâ€, describing the essential rights and freedoms of all citizens, (4) Judges who ensure that the laws are applied fairly, and these judges are appointed or elected, and no politician can fire them, (5) A separation of Religion and Politics, so that neither can interfere with each other.
– It may seem easy to advocate democracy among Muslims, but it’s not. I’m thinking, for example, about the comments sections on the Lebanese website Naharnet.com. There, they seem to think that democracy consists of: (1) democratic elections, and (2) killing anyone they don’t like, whenever they want. To their credit, they do have very heterogeneous opinions, although most are about who should be killed, and why. Alright, I’m exaggerating, but I do find Naharnet.com a useful guide to Middle Eastern thinking.
– Treat women as the equals of men in all things. I mean it. If you were not ready to do this when you came over, re-think your move. Remember all the good things that democracy offers you, and discriminating against women is not democratic. Completely get rid of nijabs, niqabs, hijabs, and all other jabs. Muslim women should never wear any of that stuff, ever. They must wear what they want, where and when they want, except no jabs of any sort, at least for the next 50 years. Then we’ll see. If they must have a head covering, let it be a cowboy hat. If Canadian Muslims do not stop with the jabs, immediately, the rest of us will begin wearing gorilla costumes, all the time, everywhere. The only marriage and divorce laws and customs that are acceptable are Western laws and customs, no exceptions. Arranged marriages: kaput. Doweries: nope. ‘Betrothing’ her at age 12: you’ve got to be kidding. Honour killings: just plain murder. Regulating, stipulating, or controlling who ‘Jasmine’ will marry: not. ‘Jasmine’ will determine who to marry, not you, and if she decides to marry a be-kilted Scotsman, live with it, many Westerners have, and survived. Muslim women will attend college, police academy, or hockey school if they feel like it, and don’t try to stop them (“Ladies and gentlemen, our most valuable player of the evening, Fatima al Douri!â€). None of this crap about aborting female fetuses, either.
– Stop calling the people you don’t like “unbelieversâ€. You know very well that this is a veiled death threat.
– Stop it with the Sharia law already. You’ve got to decide which country you’re going to live in, and stick with that decision. After you’ve decided, live by the laws of your chosen country.
– Stop hating Jews. I know, it’s hard for you, but you have to just give it up. In the first place, hating any ethnic group violates the Bill of Rights of almost every democratic nation, and don’t make a habit of violating your host country’s Bill of Rights. Word gets around, and it makes you unpopular. In the second place, hating Jews is an enormous waste of time and energy, and as a new immigrant you can’t afford to waste time and energy.
– Stop acting like you have a better religion, and that includes thinking about a ‘World Caliphate’. Only Allah knows what he is up to, and don’t pretend that you know. In Canada, if we were going to switch, it would be to Zoroastrianism (fire worship). It really makes a lot of sense for us.
– Stop it with the ‘victim’ stuff, it’s really irritating. You have more economic, social and religious freedoms than anywhere else on Earth, and you can’t move to Mars yet. Stop running around with the ankle-length Kameez and the wool Yamalkah-thing, crying discrimination. Tuck your shirt in, and get a better toque. Remember, in Canada, we are glad to have you. We like variety, because it makes us strong. Also, with so many different ethnic groups, ethnic hatred becomes impractical, because hating just one group seems unfair somehow, and it’s too time consuming to hate them all. Besides, if you did hate them all, you wouldn’t have any friends. Also, Muslims are good for Canada, because most are ambitious, hard workers, friendly, and know how to live in harsh environments. It’s normal, in a way – a little cold, perhaps, but normal. It’s kind of nice to think of a small town in Ontario, with a church at one end, and a mosque at the other, I like it. Maybe some day they will be side-by-side.
Posted by: DemocracyRules at March 06, 2007 06:55 PM (L/SIz)
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Dream on. Just wait until they are the majority in the quaint little town. They have had their chance to act civilized. Their religion doesn't allow it. Even if one is a hard working, law abiding what will his children become after listening to the hatred the Koran teaches?
Posted by: greyrooster at March 06, 2007 08:54 PM (wTIrf)
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""Salafists cannot imagine Islam without the killing of apostates,"
And there it is, the elephant in the room, yet again.
It is also very convenient for a Salafist to be able to declare a fellow Muslim "takfeer/apostate" and kill them on the spot with no religious consequences.
Posted by: blackflag at March 07, 2007 09:44 AM (Mq5jS)
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D Rules....
Way to go ! The only it could be any better is if you were an American. You damn sure sound like one or at least how we should be! Good job.
Gateway Pundit : Nonie Darwish on CAIR
I wish you guys could've seen what a blogging MACHINE Jim Hoft was this weekend at the Secular Islam Summit. Shooting photos, capturing video and posting like a madman. He managed to do all this despite chronic connectivity issues with the hotel's network. In any event, Jim was really working it, and deserves a lot of credit for his work.
As an example, here's an interview Jim did with Nonie Darwish regarding her opinion of CAIR, and in this video she takes on the 9-11 "truthers."
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Alright, alright. Just how many people showed up? And how many where muslims taking pictures for future beheadings? Have a feeling this is being hyped as much as the drive by media hypes Cindy Sheehan and her 20 followers. If I'm wrong please show me.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 06, 2007 03:08 AM (criip)