A Taliban senior commander has been killed and two other militants have been captured during a raid by police in the southeastern Afghan province of Zabul.
The police, having received a tip that the militants were planning an attack on Qalat, the provincial capital, surrounded the band Monday night, shooting Mohamad Haleem and arresting two of his accomplices.
Haleem and his group are responsible for numerous attacks on schools and government offices in the Zabul Province bordering Pakistan.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at April 18, 2006 04:10 PM (8e/V4)
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These jihadists are having a bad month. The funeral business is booming in SE Afghanistan. Is there a way we can invest in it? Haha! Oh, I forgot, we already are. I do believe my tax dollars bought some of those .308 cal. rounds. Touche!
Posted by: jesusland joe at April 18, 2006 05:37 PM (rUyw4)
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A bummer day for Yale, that will make their student recruiting a touch harder.
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at April 18, 2006 06:21 PM (43BLH)
Americans Deliver Delivery Ward
I’m almost impressed by Islamic charity except for the FACT that western nations out perform Islamic ones hands down. The terrorists talk about being for the common man and helping the poor but we actually do it. Who lowered infant mortality in Afghanistan? It was not the Taliban it was the USA.
Centcom :KABUL , Afghanistan – The command surgeon of Combined Forces Command – Afghanistan presented the renovated Rabia Balkhi Maternity Hospital to Afghanistan ’s minister of public health in a ceremony here April 9.
The U.S. Departments of Defense and Health and Human Services invested a combined $10 million into renovations, Air Force Col. (Dr.) Donald Thompson said.
The renovations and related training programs have already improved the care provided by the Rabia Balkhi, which is Kabul ’s second-busiest maternity hospital, delivering more than 15,000 babies each year. “When we first started, there were three to four maternal deaths per week. Last year, (Rabia Balkhi) had 18 maternal deaths for the entire year,†Thompson said.
While those numbers, plus the 50 percent decline in the mortality rate for newborns weighing more than 5.5 pounds, show a positive trend, there are still too many deaths, and that is what continuing programs will attempt to reduce, Thompson said.
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Unfortunately these "children" will only grow up to be suicide bombers and radical insurgents intent on destroying America. It is better to get rid of them now than to have to fight them in 15-20 years.
Posted by: Victory for the USA at April 17, 2006 11:17 AM (y+196)
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Why do you think they have straps around the baby's body?
And BTW, Victory, that is a horrible thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Posted by: Babs at April 17, 2006 11:20 AM (iZZlp)
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The truth is not always an easy thing to speak but that does not make it any less factual. These arabs are incapable of forming and living in a peaceful society. They exist solely to create terror and disrupt the fabric of decent society.
By removing the arab and eradicating his satanic religion worldwide we can truly have peace in our lifetimes.
Posted by: Victory for the USA at April 17, 2006 11:26 AM (y+196)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at April 17, 2006 12:00 PM (8e/V4)
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>>> By removing the arab and eradicating his satanic religion worldwide, we can truly have peace in our lifetimes.
Victory, firstly, all muslims aren't arabs. Secondly, there has never been peace at any time in recorded human history. Due to human nature there is always a threat that needs to be confronted. Thirdly, it's easy to just say kill them all. How do you propose to kill 1+ billion people scattered throughout virtually every country? Like Howie said, it's a combination of fighting and aid. That child in the picture isn't born wanting to kill infidels. Showing compassion, educating people and helping them can go much farther than violence. Just look at Kurdistan.
Posted by: Graeme at April 17, 2006 12:39 PM (RJuG/)
Posted by: Howie at April 17, 2006 01:13 PM (D3+20)
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First of all, most Afghans are not Arabs. And this talk of killing all Arabs, killing all Muslims, killing all Mexicans is ridiculous. I wish the hell you would stop it, victory. We heard you the first time. You have made your stupid point. Enough.
And thank you, Graeme, for being a sane voice, and pointing out places where we have succeeded, and where the entire ME could be were it not for the jihadists. Yes, kill all the jihadists. I have no problem with that, but if you were to try to kill one of my friends who is a Muslim, or another of my friends who is from Chile, or another who is from Mexico, I would stop you, victory.
Posted by: jesusland joe at April 17, 2006 03:29 PM (rUyw4)
11Sadly, $10,000,000 US tax dollars was poured down a rat-hole which most likely will be reduced to rubble by a suicide bomber while homeless and middle class workers in America continue with no health care coverage.
Nice to know Larry, that you put the lives of Afghani babies behind your access to affordable healthcare, you do know that Canada and Britain both have a "free" socialist medical program and homeless welfare programs right? you can then take your paycheck home, knowing you've paid about 25% tax for some asshole to sit at home, and cash his state given Giro "job seeker" allowance, but hey no need to worry about third-world babies!
Posted by: davec at April 17, 2006 03:35 PM (CcXvt)
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Now, if we could just bring all those babies we killed back to life...
Oh, we can't?!
Posted by: Greg at April 17, 2006 06:20 PM (q5wwn)
Posted by: Howie at April 17, 2006 06:25 PM (D3+20)
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The thing about babies...
They're a hell of a lot cuter when they're alive.
Posted by: Greg at April 17, 2006 07:33 PM (q5wwn)
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So when were we intentionally targeting babies. I agree they are cuter alive and would rather have them that way. Who is the baby killer? (as I understand the meaning) he who recruits the baby as a soldier and sends him to battle or the soldier who kills him in battle?
Or are you talking about babies killed (not intentionally) in bombing? adn why is always the children we acidentally kill greg there are others killed too and during operations targeting civilians exclusivly by our enemy.
Posted by: Howie at April 17, 2006 07:49 PM (D3+20)
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Didn't say we intentionally target them. I'm saying there is no such thing as a smart bomb. And spray and pray doesn't help either. Who knows how many hundreds we've killed.
Israel kills 4 times as many Palestinian children than the other way around. But when the New York Times reports on the death of a child, in the Palestinian/Israeli context, it is 7 times as likely to be about the death of an Israeli child, a 28 fold bias.
I suspect the same is true of us in Iraq.
Fix it or nix it. This ship is sinking and stinking.
Posted by: Greg at April 17, 2006 08:28 PM (q5wwn)
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Larry,
"potential suicide bombers" are you nuts?
how many suicide bombings occurred before the Taliban brought their venomous teachings and rulings from Pakistan?
The only thing I see convulsing is chicken little's like yourself telling everyone the sky is falling, wipe the froth from your chin and try being a little more objective.
Posted by: davec at April 17, 2006 08:30 PM (CcXvt)
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I agree greg no bomb is that smart. But greg you know I don't want to anyone to have to die if that is possible. I see your media bias thing but I don't see how that relates to Iraq. I mean we can't be over reporting the deaths of American babies there.
What about the babies they killed just one time for the hell of it. How do you feel about those to be fair it has to be the same. Can one be worse than the other?
Posted by: Howie at April 17, 2006 08:44 PM (D3+20)
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How many babies did we save in this hospital alone? The year before this hospital was revamped 200 babies died because of poor medical care. 18 died the next year due to improvements. My math says we saved about 180 babies. This is a good thing.
Posted by: jesusland joe at April 17, 2006 09:35 PM (rUyw4)
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What we're experiencing in this thread is the "dopelar effect" - The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when they come at you rapidly.
Some are more susceptible to it than others.
We have Victory who wants to kill everyone not like him.
We have Greg who thinks a suicide bomber intentionally blowing up kids collecting candy is the same as a bomb intended to kill 20 jihadis and accidently kills a civilian.
And we have Loose Lips Larry who can't decide what he hates more; Bush for sending troops in to kill terrorists or the fact that not enough are killed.
Posted by: Oyster at April 18, 2006 06:25 AM (YudAC)
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"The invasion of Iraq in March 2003 by U.S.-led coalition forces has been responsible for the death of at least 150,000 civilians reveals a compilation of scientific studies and corroborated eyewitness testimonies.
The majority of these deaths, which are in addition those normally expected from natural causes, illness and accidents, have been among women and children, documents a well-researched study, that had been released by The Lancet Medical Journal.
That estimate excludes Falluja, a hotspot for violence. If the data from this town is included, the compiled studies point to about 250,000 excess deaths since the outbreak of the U.S.-led war."
Posted by: Howie at April 18, 2006 09:07 PM (/Y5s/)
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Ahhh! Another morning on the blog. Whadda Ya got world?
Posted by: Last word Larry at April 18, 2006 09:52 PM (FCC6c)
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Hey! I'm just trying to survive here like everyone else! Just trying to put in my hours get through the day, clock out and go home. So let's just try and get through it the best we can! Okay? Now who's been messin' with my work?
Posted by: Last word Larry at April 19, 2006 01:20 AM (FCC6c)
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Who's been messing with my work? I suggest you show your host a just a teeny bit of respect. Since it is my post, my rules and all. My favorite rule is I son;t ahve to follow any. I get irritated I can check, check, check click and boom instant gratification.
Posted by: Howie at April 19, 2006 09:15 AM (D3+20)
Operation Big Mean Ass Kitty
Er uh, I mean Mountain Lion. I know a lady who had several big cats and the cool thing is cougars purr, they really are a great big mean ass kitty. Actually they were very sweet and wanted to play with you. Play with you to death that is.
DEFENSELINK : This operation is helping the government of Afghanistan set the security conditions so democratic processes can take root," said Air Force Maj. Gen. Allen Peck, deputy air component commander for Combined Forces Command Afghanistan. "Our job is to bring airpower to bear on the anti-Afghan forces and support the coalition troops on the ground."
Operations today began with predawn air-and-ground assaults in the Pech River Valley, an area notorious for terrorist activity, Combined Force Command Afghanistan officials said.
Soldiers from 3rd Brigade of the Afghan National Army's 203rd Corps are fighting alongside servicemembers from the coalition's Task Force Spartan, made up of soldiers from the 3rd Brigade Combat Team of the 10th Mountain Division and 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment Marines from Task Force Lava.
More than 2,500 Afghan National Army and coalition forces are involved in the operation.
"We're taking the fight to the terrorists in their own backyard," said Army Command Sgt. Maj. James Redmore of Task Force Spartan. "They gave their victims no sanctuary. They'll receive none from us."
1"We're taking the fight to the terrorists in their own backyard," said Army Command Sgt. Maj. James Redmore of Task Force Spartan. "They gave their victims no sanctuary. They'll receive none from us."
Does this mean that CAIR and the ACLU are under imminent danger of destruction?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 13, 2006 10:35 AM (0yYS2)
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sounds like a drone took out a few on the paki side, the news is saying one al qaidah honcho given over to the maggots
Posted by: goesh at April 13, 2006 11:35 AM (vX0fY)
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When I first saw your headline, I was a little perplexed. I had the emphasis wrong. I read it as Big Mean Ass-Kitty, not Big Mean-Ass Kitty. Good thing I read the post, I was almost a little icked out.
Posted by: richj at April 13, 2006 04:36 PM (Qrjpn)
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Their "sanctuary is about 40 ckicks east I fished their for trout in 1976 beautiful forrested mountains
Posted by: john Ryan at April 13, 2006 07:28 PM (TcoRJ)
Five Christian Aid Workers Murdered by Taliban
Reports are that the five civilians may have been murdered by drug lords. I don't buy it for one second. The Taliban in resurgent in Afghanistan and until there is some evidence to the contrary, should be considered the prime suspects. Why kill them? Because the Rural Rehabilitation Association for Afghanistan (RRAA) is funded by Christian organizations. What more justification have the Taliban and their al Qaeda allies ever needed to kill? Notice that the aid workers were first tied up and then shot-- a sign that their murderers first gave them a Sharia kangaroo court, followed by a sentence of 'guilty' for 'apostasy' before 'executing' them.
Five medical staff working for a Christian Aid-funded organisation have been murdered in north-west Afghanistan.
The victims include a doctor, community health worker, and health educator who were part of a project run by the Rural Rehabilitation Association for Afghanistan (RRAA), in Darrah-i-Bohm, Badghis province.
It is thought that at least four gunmen broke into their clinic at around 1am today (local time). According to reports, the gunmen tied them up before shooting them.
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Tactics and choice of targets tell the whole story! - as soft and weak as possible! See the enemy for who they are - pathetic pussies!
I'm not the only one developing greater respect and admiration for VC Charlie - now there was a true opponent worthy of respect!
The islamists aren't even attempting to challenge military forces! No one give me the BS that they would only lose - the very attempt is what legend, heros and victory is made of (go ask the NVA and VC).
I do want to stay the course and help these peoples into the future - but it is tough! 'cause I admit - I don't have a lot of respect for this overall islamic culture.
Posted by: hondo at April 10, 2006 05:06 PM (4mgfY)
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The Taliban are strongest in the exact opposite part of Afghanistan, the southeast. At this point I would be looking more at the local narco/warlord then at the Taliban. Strategically it would not be a good omen if the Taliban were now able to operate so far from their sanctuary of Pakistan
Posted by: john Ryan at April 10, 2006 06:26 PM (TcoRJ)
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It's not so much the actual Taliban that's the problem in this case, but their supporters and Taliban pretenders that can operate freely in any remote area where law enforcement does not have a strong presence. If it walks like a duck...
Posted by: Oyster at April 11, 2006 05:11 AM (YudAC)
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Afghanistan has never been anything but a land of barbarians who live by the law of the jungle, and never will be anything else. Attempting to bring the principles of Liberty to muslims is like putting a dress on a pig.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 11, 2006 06:39 AM (0yYS2)
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So typical of right wing morons who will toss reason and evidence aside and swallow whatever jizz the neocon shitheads happen to find convenient to shoot down their throats. The West fears unity of those that cross national boundaries as the potential membership would exceed any other group. The West in fact shows this fear in perpetuating negative views towards Islam. This is why fighters from muslims countries are not called soldiers but insurgents. I do not remember reading about soldiers of vietnam, japan or germany being called insurgents or terrorists. When Israeli born people return to israel to fight in the army they are not considered deviant or a terorist. However, if an iraqi or palestinian born american or uk muslim goes to fight for palestine or iraq they are considered a terrorist and a national threat. This is evidence of the double standard when it comes to Islam, and the trigger for the responses of those such as Jimmy the Dhimmi.
Posted by: leaker-in-chief at April 11, 2006 10:14 AM (zqsRN)
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Although some Bush strategists share the Leo Straussian view that leaders must lie to mobilize popular support, they are discovering that lies often backfire. The contradictions between America's utopian image and the reality of empire will eventually become unsustainable. The United States, its power unrivaled, faces the prospect that its imperialism will become barbarism, not its alternative.
A struggle that loosens Washington’s grip on the Middle East will save countless lives and advance the cause of a more peaceful and just world. That’s why it’s right to resist the U.S. in Iraq--and right to support all struggles against oppression.
Must be tough being wannabe revolutionary heros - soft and secure in your comfortable playgrounds.
What a bitch! Wanting to embrace, support, and emulate the enemy - but ..... its hard - isn't it? At least Che looked good on a T-shirt.
Its not too late - join the struggle - its easy! Be like your heros - load up a car with explosives and nails - drive it into a neighborhood school or church or shopping mall. Be down with the revolutionary islamic brothers!
Hey! Its spring! See that girl with the short pants - she's a harlot! beat her to death with a brick!
Join the stuggle guys! Emulate your heros - or better - volunteer to fight oppression! They are looking for a few good western men (white would be nice) - they even have a special vest you can wear! One size fits all one time! Be a real hero! Get a pair of balls and get out there!
Posted by: hondo at April 11, 2006 01:17 PM (4mgfY)
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Now hondo, they're doing their part in the fight against civilization from the homefront, as they collectively have a note from their doctor excusing them from having to ever actually do anything.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 11, 2006 02:07 PM (0yYS2)
hahaha! I'm sure Imams the world over are delighted with how your brainwashing has turned out. Barbarism doesn't even know what imperialism means, just heard it somewhere and it sounded good. Leaker thinks that negative views towards Islam just evolved out of thin air; the soldiers of vietnam, japan or germany didn't blow themselves up in cafes and weddings. I wonder if that might have something to do with them not being recipients of the "terrorist" label?
Posted by: Oyster at April 11, 2006 02:59 PM (SlypO)
It was reported today that Rahman would seek safety outside Afghanistan. No word yet on what country, if any, he has been moved to.
UN via The TimesAdrian Edwards, a UN spokesman in Kabul, said that he expected that one of the countries interested in a peaceful solution to the case would give refuge to 41-year-old Mr Rahman.
Ok, found the AP original Story and it says that Mr. Rahman was released just outside of Kabul. Hopefully this is a somewhat of a ruse and he was met there and taken to safety.
AP via Yahoo News : Justice Minister Mohammed Sarwar Danish told The Associated Press that the 41-year-old was released from the high-security Policharki prison on the outskirts of Kabul late Monday.
"We released him last night because the prosecutors told us to," he said. "His family was there when he was freed, but I don't know where he was taken."
Does I don't know mean long gone? Does outskirts mean at the airport? It's possible the county that takes him may be a bit skittish about going public. I would hate to think of the other possibilities.
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ALLLAHU AKBAR!!! THIS is the appropriate time to say that...not when you're chopping people heads off and lauching rockets at innocent people.
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Posted by: billy faeth at March 27, 2006 11:24 PM (OlZhJ)
2His family was there when he was freed
Didn't a member of his family turn him in?
Posted by: davec at March 28, 2006 12:02 AM (CcXvt)
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Dave: I know, it's confusing about his family. Family turns him then family tells the court he's "cuckoo" to spare him and then family picks him up on the outskirts of town.
If I remember correctly, he was turned in by family because of a custody battle over the children. Well, if Afghanistan is so hell bent on exacting Sharia law, then why did they abandon it and allow a battle over custody of the children, yet, enforce it for apostasy? In Sharia law the children always go to the father. In other words, if Sharia is the law of the land, then why was there a custody battle at all?
Over here we call that hypocrisy.
Posted by: Oyster at March 28, 2006 05:33 AM (YudAC)
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Oh yeah, and it must have sucked for the judge to have a name like Mohammed Sarwar "Danish" in light of the recent Danish cartoon kerfluffle.
Posted by: Oyster at March 28, 2006 05:36 AM (YudAC)
Abdul Rahman May be Freed
To follow up on Blutos earlier post, CNN is flying a banner this morning(story up) saying western diplomats expect Rahman will be released today. However they are also reporting that Rahman has been moved to Prison. And pope Pope Benedict XVI has formally requested his release. My concern is both that he may be executed and if not his safety upon release. Muslim clerics have called for the people to quote, “Pull him into pieces!â€. Rahman remains steadfast in his faith.
Many nations, Christian and Secular have done much for the Muslims in Afghanistan. Your freedom is our cause. As your friends we have seen and taken pity on this man. As a favor and gesture of goodwill I ask that you ensure his safety and free transport to exile to Rome. Deport him if you do not desire his presence and surely his children should be with their Father. I’ve heard quotes from Afghanistan like this one.
Via The Volokh Consiracy : "According to Islamic law he should be sentenced to death because God has clearly stated that Christianity is forbidden in our land," says Mohammed Qadir, another worshipper.
Eugene Volokh Add this:
This is telling evidence, it seems to me, that there is something very wrong in Islam today, and not just in some lunatic terrorist fringe. Doubtless many, I would hope most, Muslims would not endorse executing converts.
Christians are and have been very good brothers to the people of Afghanistan? Why then do you forbid us in your nation? Brothers should stand close to one another and sometimes correct the other. We hear your complaints and are trying to help. Now we ask the same from you.
I pray for Adbdul Rahman’s safe release. I’m not Catholic but I appreciate the work they are doing. Their help gives me some hope. They have a good track record in these things.
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Check out this 5 minute CNN tape.
The 9-11 Truth Movement has exploded on CNN.
Thousands of people are emailing CNN in approval.
In CNN’s poll, which asks if you believe the
government was involved in 9-11, 67% say yes. Even I
am surprised.
Means that CNN is probably embarrassed that all the loons suddenly appeared out of the woodwork and is going to kill their rating amongst regular folks.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 11:50 AM (8e/V4)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 11:52 AM (8e/V4)
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Notice how the poll question is worded for maximum deceptive results.
Charlie Sheen and conspiracy theorists claim the government actually COMMITTED the attack.
But the poll asks an entirely different question-- whether they believe the government "covered up" the real events.
Two different issues, yet the conspiracists try to use the latter to support the former. Even a child can see whats going on here. Conspiracy theorists (and CNN) is guilty of deception.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 11:57 AM (8e/V4)
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Greg, you do realise that, assuming that only US citizens voted, approximately 0.014% of the population agrees with Charlie Sheen. The results become even more irrelevant if one assumes that the poll is international.
Posted by: Graeme at March 26, 2006 12:00 PM (VwhTY)
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>>>>The results become even more irrelevant if one assumes that the poll is international.
Good point.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 12:11 PM (8e/V4)
Howie,
My brotha.
You raise a good point, not about me voting, but about your side voting.
The right wing blogs want to ignore this story and consequently your side isn't participating in the poll.
Serves you right.
Posted by: greg at March 26, 2006 01:18 PM (q5wwn)
that poll, properly worded to reflect what moonbat Sheen ACTUALLY said, wouldn't reflect those numbers and you know it.
Then put the poll on Fox instead of CNN and fuggedaboutit. CNN gets a fraction of the hits the Fox does.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 01:22 PM (8e/V4)
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How do you get a liberal to leave your property?
Pay him for the pizza.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 26, 2006 01:27 PM (0yYS2)
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Howie,
What would make me happy is if you'd watch the CNN feed at:
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/sheen_alex_jones_showbiz_tonight_video.htm
and if Rusty would take off all of these silly filters. My gosh, look how much trouble it is to link to C N N on the Jawa Report. Same for the B B C.
Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 01:49 PM (q5wwn)
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Greg: They're probably PixyMisa's filters? the comment script is on blog.mu.nu not jawa.
Greg I could write code in under 10 minutes that would click that vote all day, and someone probably did. Every conference I go to, I see to meet some moonbat programmer who thinks we're in the Matrix, or that Roswell space alien technology is being harnessed in the U.S technology race.
Re: subject
Via The Volokh Consiracy : "According to Islamic law he should be sentenced to death because God has clearly stated that Christianity is forbidden in our land," says Mohammed Qadir, another worshipper.
This guy does realise Afghanistan wasn't Muslim land until ROP raiders came across, and killed everyone in their wake right?
Posted by: davec at March 26, 2006 02:14 PM (CcXvt)
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Dave: That's the mindset. Anything before their appearance doesn't count. Once they step in, their laws and beliefs supercede everything. Anything before that is discounted as illegitimate and doesn't even merit discussion. The only time even biblical history is brought up it's twisted and bastardized to lay a false foundation for their own beliefs. The final answer to everything is that it's Allah's will. When they get boxed into a corner, that's always the answer. That's the signal that the discussion is over.
Posted by: Oyster at March 26, 2006 02:41 PM (YudAC)
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He should be freed no one should be pursicuted for becoming a christain and by the way they still persicte christains in CHINA and CUBA and probibly NORTH KOREA thats what the ACLU dose here in this country
Posted by: sandpiper at March 26, 2006 02:55 PM (slksM)
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Davec,
The 9-11 Truth Movement is going to be part of American lore, at a minimum.
It's entirely possible that there will be convictions if this gets out of hand.
The right ignores this issue at its own peril. "The worm has turned".
To be fair. The OKC bombing that occurred under Clinton was also covered up as was the first WTC bombing.
Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 02:58 PM (q5wwn)
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>>>>To be fair. The OKC bombing that occurred under Clinton was also covered up as was the first WTC bombing.
So explain that. What is the pattern? Are you saying Clinton blew up the Murrah building? And for what purpose. And how does that tie into 9/11. Pattern, please. Or else it's just random synapse firing by conspiracy kooks.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 03:10 PM (8e/V4)
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Carlos,
At the time the government was very worried about militia.
Since the bombing, militia have lost strength.
The OKC bombing was probably an entrapment psyop.
The reports of John Doe being of middle eastern origin is significant.
After the first gulf war hundreds of Iraqi military were repatriated to OKC.
The goverment has never shown us the security film which would identify John Doe as a coconspirator of McVeigh.
The pattern is to cause false flag operations to herd the masses politically. It's not a Republican thing, both parties do it.
Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 03:33 PM (q5wwn)
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Where does Karl Rove's earthquake generator, mounted on the nose of the space shuttle fit in?
Posted by: davec at March 26, 2006 03:40 PM (CcXvt)
As usual you make an excellent point. I just finished reading a History of India, and I can tell you that the barbarity inflicted on the Hindus and Buddists by Islam is without any compare, except perhaps the slaughter of Jews and Slavs by the Nazis. And even the Nazis could not accomplish what Islam did to India, where upwards of 80 million people were slaughtered. A mountain range in Afghanistan, the Hindu Kush, which means Hindu slaughter, was named after events that took place here.
And you are right again, oyster, because Afghanistan was controlled by Hindus and Buddists before the Muslims came. Mahmud of Ghazni led seventeen expeditions into India over a 27 year period that was nothing more than a slaughter. All in the name of Islam.
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 26, 2006 03:59 PM (rUyw4)
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Greg: I will watch the feed when I have the pipes for it. I'll vote to. I reckon there is some detail they may have left out or be "suppressing". Or maybe not I'll decide tomorrow. Now you guys greg is excited let's be happy for him. I suppose as long a Greg is proud of it that's all that matters right Greg.
Posted by: Howie at March 26, 2006 05:53 PM (D3+20)
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Amen Brotha,
Every dog has his day.
As things develop, I'll make sure the Jawa community hears about it.
Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 06:33 PM (q5wwn)
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Gee, thanks, Greg, you are a true humanitarian.
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 26, 2006 08:15 PM (rUyw4)
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>>>>The pattern is to cause false flag operations to herd the masses politically. It's not a Republican thing, both parties do it.
greg,
sorry, that's too monstrous to accept based just on questionable circumstantial evidence and speculative conclusions.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 09:17 PM (M3nr/)
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Gee Greg. If this is a matter of such magnitude you owe it to the world to start a blog insted of limiting this dire information to us measley few. Oh, wait .... no one will read it, you say? Well, you've a point there. Better to hijack threads and preach to a captive audience than get rejected by the masses with no hits to your counter, eh?
Posted by: Oyster at March 27, 2006 10:31 AM (V9juS)
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Poll gone looking for video. And yes greg should start a blog. I think it would do OK. Heck I'll even read it.
www.blogger.com/start
Posted by: Howie at March 27, 2006 11:25 AM (D3+20)
Posted by: Howie at March 27, 2006 11:39 AM (D3+20)
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Howie,
The story has probably been spiked by now.
I'm at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton until Thursday presenting my research.
When I get back to Austin I'll try and find an archived copy for you.
Best,
Greg
Posted by: Greg at March 27, 2006 05:20 PM (bmKg3)
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I could see the site you posted. Looks like they have it just too slow. I'll try again tomorrow.
Posted by: Howie at March 27, 2006 08:17 PM (D3+20)
Everyone Has A Price
Maybe I'm just a hard-headed realist, but, saving the life of Abdul Rahman, the Christian on trial in Afghanistan for converting, should be relatively easy.
Of course, hard-headed realism died out in terms of diplomacy a long, long time ago. All things diplomatic now have to be nuanced and introduced into formal language for one country to tell another country it's not happy with the latter's action on a particular subject.
Screw all that. Bush should explain to Karzai in no uncertain terms that if Abdul Rahman is put to death for becoming a member of "The People of the Book" then:
All U.S. forces will be extricated from the country at once.
All diplomatic ties will be severed.
All U.S. monetary aid (our tax dollars), will cease. Enjoy your poppies.
All U.S. forces extricated, all diplomatic ties, and all U.S. monetary aid (our tax dollars) will be used to overthrow the mullochracy in Iran.
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If we only had our way....
Nice thought.
I could think of a few other countries we ought to lay that out to!
Posted by: Melissa in Texas at March 22, 2006 07:41 PM (bbxLM)
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Actually, this guy's case has been one of the few coming out of Afghanistan that has a conservative spin on it. Too many big papers who should know better have been running this under headlines like, "Man to be executed for converting to Christianity." By now everyone should know he's on the docket for apostasy. What religion he converted to, or if he didn't convert to any religion and gave up God altogether, has no bearing on the case. Unfortunately, "Man to be executed for renouncing Islam" doesn't sell papers in a Christian country.
Posted by: ShannonKW at March 22, 2006 08:08 PM (dT1MB)
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Might be worth trying to win one of the two wars you are already losing before getting involved in losing another one.
Posted by: Sonic at March 22, 2006 08:26 PM (Gsn6c)
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i think the attention THIS story is ggetting will lead to the freedom of the man. however i propose he come to united states and study here. He is worth more to me and this country and what it stands for than the bleeding liberals and whiners on the streets, and much more than ALL the lawyers in the ACLU.
do you notice that the court in afghanistan realizes that the attention his story is getting and know they will not execute him so they use the "he is crazy" argument, instead of admitting they are wrong!
ahahah
HA HA AFGHANISTAN!
Posted by: billy Faeth at March 22, 2006 08:42 PM (SXXFV)
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Sonic must be one of those 'Gulf war babies' who believes if a war takes longer than six weeks -- (four weeks of which, is reruns of night-vision camera footage of a precision missile hit on CNN) that America is in a new Vietnam.
Posted by: davec at March 22, 2006 08:52 PM (CcXvt)
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Unfortunately, we are now looking at the reality of pottery barn rules. Because we have wasted so much in Iraq, we did not focus on Afghanistan. The resurgence of opium trade coupled with tribal warfare makes it impossible for us to exercise any central control outside of Kabul.
If we abandon Afghanistan the Taliban will come back in from Pakistan and Waziristan and we'll be dealing with another failed state.
Failed states represent a bigger threat to us than anything else because they are the easiest for cash rich terrorists to hang out. Conflict diamonds, drugs, and gold are great sources of infuence when you have corrupt and destitute countries.
The real risk (and increasing probability) is that we will be seeing a similarly theocratic state in Iraq.
Posted by: 8ackgr0und N015e at March 22, 2006 08:58 PM (gAXw0)
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Is it a wasted comment, to point out that Afghanistan was a NATO operation BN?
As such, there were many more nations involved than just the U.S, all of those countries are very involved in current peacekeeping operations.
Just because CNN keeps an active deathwatch in Iraq, and does not take it's camera's to Afghanistan, doesn't mean the coalition's resolve is any less today, that it was on September 12th 2001.
Posted by: davec at March 22, 2006 09:12 PM (CcXvt)
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>>>Might be worth trying to win one of the two wars you are already losing before getting involved in losing another one.
The only war we're losing is the media war, and that's no surprise considering the MSM is about 98.7% Democrat.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 22, 2006 09:23 PM (8e/V4)
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This might be a comment wasted on a real moron, but Thesaurus we're trying to make the Iraqi Police, and Military autonomous -- which means we do not patrol the streets for them, guard their Police stations, flush out the bad guys, etc the U.S military will respond to threats, and engage as needed.
I'm guessing you're one of the liberal bedwetting, handwringers who talk about how "U.S won't leave Iraq for ten years" out of one side of your mouth, closely followed by "Bad things happen in Iraq every day!! we're defeated!! squark !! defeated I say!"
When would you like the Iraqi military to take over peacekeeping, and security operations? should we make sure every police station in Iraq has armed U.S guards so they can't attack it? Apache helicopter in the air to guard the bus stations, Spectre Gunship on the runway in case someone steals some cheese in the market place?
This is all part of making Iraqi's responsible for policing, and security of their own country
Posted by: davec at March 22, 2006 09:54 PM (CcXvt)
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And it's working, they are automonously blowing away two of your guys every day and have been for three years.
Still it's not as bad as Gettysburg, why is everyone worrying?
Posted by: Sonic at March 22, 2006 10:53 PM (Gsn6c)
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Afghanistan...... here we have a president who literally can not venture outside of his own capital. He must be guarded by Americans, he can not trust his own people to guard him. 50% of the country's GNP comes from opium/heroin. The billions that we have spent on reconstruction show little to benefit the ordinary common people. The taliban are stronger now than at any time since they were thrown out and are still providing sanctuary to Osama bin Laden. Gee there is a name from the distant past !! We hardly ever hear his name any more.
Posted by: john Ryan at March 22, 2006 10:54 PM (TcoRJ)
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You know Vinnie actually we wouldn't have to threaten him with all of that. All we would have to do is threaten to remove his American bodyguards. He knows that he wouldn't live longer than a week without them.
Posted by: john Ryan at March 22, 2006 10:57 PM (TcoRJ)
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Sonic,
Seeing as you're an expert on warfare, asymmetric and conventional, perhaps you can state an insurgency [country/date] that did not last less than seven years, and did not involve small amounts of soldiers, over a long period of time? perhaps you can also break down and comment on the flaws in U.S counterinsurgency tactics, and tell us the faults?
Posted by: davec at March 22, 2006 11:13 PM (CcXvt)
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Sonic: Outside of slaughtering Maoris, what war has New Zealand won?
Background Noise: I fixed a URL in your "last post ever at the Jawa Report." Prevaricator.
John Ryan: 1st comment, I call bullshit. Stop getting your information from Fox News. 2nd comment...eh, I'll buy that.
But then we wouldn't get to build our ultra-base on the ashes of Teheran.
Posted by: Vinnie at March 22, 2006 11:20 PM (f289O)
Vinnie... I appreciate your fixing that link... it shows you are a decent guy. I don't recall saying it was the last post ever... It was the last post I was going to ever leave on the Tom Fox thread. The way you have handled that distinguishes this blog from most every other one in the Right and most every one on the Left. I have also said here and in other venues that Jawa distinguishes itself from RedState and Townhall by engaging people who disagree. Here is a link to RedState that resulted in banning of several people. You show me where the rules were violated. Truth is, they ... like this administration ... are afraid to defend their positions in honest debate. So, they talk to themselves. I have consistently said that we can agree or disagree..but the fact is we're stuck with each other. We inflict more damage upon ourselves than any terrorists could ever hope to. That's the lesson of Antietam and Sharpsburg. 25 years ago Yasuhiro Nakasone said, "The American mongrel race is inferior." He was one third right. We are mongrels. But we call that diversity. In biology it's called "hybrid vigor," and that is what makes us strong.
This is your playground and I know that first amendment issues are not in play here ... so you can decide what you like.. but I believe we need to cherish, celebrate, and cultivate that diversity so we can meet the challenges that face us going forward.
I could post only on Dailykos where people are more likely to agree with me, and you could post only on RedState where they will agree with you. That's fine if all you want is to make everyone feel good by having their inner child validated, but that doesn't move the ball downfield.
I know what I believe. I know why I believe it. Here's something that will surprise you: I'm willing to be wrong. But you have to bring something to the table to earn the right to that discussion. Invective and bigotry don't persuade me..that's why the jesusland jokers are dead to me. Let me be clear, I'm not accusing you of either ... and frankly if someone wants to mock me... have at it, I've been called worse by better. Like Whittington, I've got thicker skin than George. If you're good, I've got a funny story of how I got kick/banned from #bestiality back in the days when IRC was a wild and wooley place.
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davec ... I am not sure about your comment... Afghanistan as a NATO operation? In addition to working with the northen alliance, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, France, New Zealand, Italy, and Germany provided support
to us as well. Moreover, we had the endorsement of Iran (the first Islamic country to endorse our action), the Organization of Islamic Countries (representing all the Islamic nations of the world), Cuba, Libya, Russia and China. We also had the backing of the UN Security council with regards to our central demands that the Taliban hand over the perpetrators and close all terrorist bases. That invasion was firmly based in international law. It was consistent with policies and positions of the United States going back to the presidency of Thomas Jefferson.
No one...not even Helen Thomas... argues that the US had a legitimate right to invade Afghanistan. I can quote Quakers who endorsed it in print in leading Quaker journals.
Please explain your point ..because you are not being clear about it at all.
Posted by: 8ackgr0und N015e at March 23, 2006 12:04 AM (9AVlt)
perhaps you can state an insurgency that did not last less than seven years, and did not involve small amounts of soldiers, over a long period of time?
perhaps you can also break down and comment on the flaws in U.S counterinsurgency tactics, and tell us the faults?
I'll take the second question first: The Salvador Option...huge mistake. And it's getting worse. Death squads are not a good way to spread democracy.
The first question...I think you meant "insurgency that did not last MORE than seven years" right? I'm also assuming you want to only count successful insurgencies too, right?
If that is what you were getting at ... I would suggest the Sandinista overthrow of Somoza in Nicaragua would qualify by a few months. Castro's overthrow of Batista only took 3 years.
I'm not sure what is magical about the 7 years number, but I would point out that long drawn out insurgencies on foreign soil far from home usually prevail...so long insurgencies are not a good thing as far as our occupation of Iraq is concerned.
Posted by: 8ackgr0und N015e at March 23, 2006 12:39 AM (9AVlt)
Posted by: 8ackgr0und N015e at March 23, 2006 12:44 AM (9AVlt)
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I'm with you Vinnie. This isn't what we went to Afghanistan for. If they insist on being neanderthals, then we should leave.
Posted by: Ariya at March 23, 2006 03:18 AM (yHb0A)
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I still can't figure out how pissing one's pants, wringing one's hands, crying like a baby, and running away to hide under the bed is any sort of winning strategy, but damn if the libtards don't believe in it. I just hope that when there is open war against muslims in the streets of America, the muslims don't hang all the libtards before I get a few.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 23, 2006 05:52 AM (0yYS2)
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Now back to the topic: The best way to handle this is for Bush to grow some nuts and tell them to knock this shit off if they don't want the B-52's to come back. Muslims are animals. Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 23, 2006 05:59 AM (0yYS2)
Wow, all of the Philippinos I ran into sure fooled me good.
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at March 23, 2006 07:43 AM (ffPYG)
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A good question to contemplate is WHY we had the endorsement of Iran. Was it because of their strong principles? Or because the Taliban too closely and openly displayed the same style of government which might have soon been seen as comparable to Iran? Or because factions in Iran's government were harboring or planned to harbor Taliban or al Qaeda officials and this would put them in a position to be perceived as "good guys"? Or was it simply another example of "taqqiya"? Or ...
Posted by: Oyster at March 23, 2006 08:44 AM (g9UJq)
I think that is a good question. There is no question that Iran uses terrorists as proxies. However, at the time of that attack, internal Iranian politics was undergoing a power struggle for direction. The overwhelming majority of Iranians are disillusioned with the fruits of Khomeini's revolution. The average Iranian loves the US. Most of Iran's current population was born after the revolution. So it is not surprising they have a different view of the US...especially since they grew up under the strict theocratic rule of the mullahs. This was abundantly clear to everyone involved in the aid relief to Bam... and that was after the SoTU where Bush placed them in the "axis of evil"... I'm sure some saw it as an opportunity to thaw the ice a bit with the US. But that was not the only reason.
There was no love lost between Iran and the Taliban. First off, Iran is Shi'ite. Taliban is Sunni. However their relations were in the crapper for more concrete reasons. In 1998, Taliban soldiers seized the northern Afghan city of Mazar-i-Sharif. They then stormed the Iranian consulate in the city and killed eight diplomats and an Iranian journalist. They also took dozens of hostages. Iran responded by deploying troops along their common border. For some weeks it appeared the two sides would go to war. UN mediation defused the situation and all the hostages were eventually released. However, Iran never established diplomatic relations with the Taliban. They made a precondition for that was the killers had to be brought to justice. In spite of the governmental situation, tribal contacts remained intact. I'm sure the smuggling of Afghani opium through Iran to Europe was a major contributing factor in maintaining local cooperation even to the present.
Posted by: 8ackgr0und N015e at March 23, 2006 09:31 AM (9AVlt)
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Your examples are closer to a coup, than the sort of insurgency I was comparing, which would be foreign military in control: like in Palestine, Malay, Cyprus and Brunei where the controlling force has to quell rebel/guerilla forces.
re: "The Salvador Option" perhaps you should go to wikipedia and fill it out a little, it seems they barely have an article:
"The 'Salvador Option' was a secret military proposal that Newsweek originally reported on January 8th, 2005. The magazine claims to have received its information from military insiders speaking on conditions of anonymity. The program was supposed to have been based on the Reagan administration's still classified support for El Salvador's right wing forces' fight against left wing guerrilas in the 1980's. These right wing forces are alleged to have included so called 'death squads'."
Might also be worthy to note Newsweek also claimed the U.S military were flushing the Quran from an "anonymous" source too
Posted by: dave at March 23, 2006 01:25 PM (CcXvt)
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To quote Newsweek is not to quote a valid source. Good point, dave!
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 23, 2006 04:37 PM (rUyw4)
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Sonic's problem is that of every other liberal; no balls. And to make it worse, he's not just outdone by real Men, but every woman in the military is a better Man than he. He cannot contribute in any meaningful way to his society, so he feels he must denigrate his betters. He is a worthless parasite, and he and his kind should be exterminated as such.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 25, 2006 07:27 AM (0yYS2)
Abdul Rahman Update
As international pressure increases on Afghanistan the case of Abdul Rahman has become a front page example the cult like “threat of death†to those who leave Islam. Today Jawa Report co-blogger Richard at Hyscience has a good post and urges the we keep up the pressure.
Richard at Hyscience : Please note action items in extended post! There are many times that the blogosphere steps forward and takes a community stand on an important issue. Saving the life of Abdur Rahman calls for such a stand, and it appears that the blogosphere is beginning to step up to the plate to do exactly that.
The now increasing international pressure has caused Afghanistan to search for a face saving way to release Abdul. If you ask me calling the man crazy does not save much face.
AP via Yahoo News : But prosecutor Sarinwal Zamari said questions have been raised about his mental fitness.
"We think he could be mad. He is not a normal person. He doesn't talk like a normal person," he told The Associated Press.
Moayuddin Baluch, a religious adviser to President Hamid Karzai, said Rahman would undergo a psychological examination.
"Doctors must examine him," he said. "If he is mentally unfit, definitely Islam has no claim to punish him. He must be forgiven. The case must be dropped."
A Western diplomat in Kabul and a human rights advocate — both of whom spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter — said the government was desperately searching for a way to drop the case because of the reaction it has caused.
While that may result in his release it’s a piss poor way of doing business. I call on Afghanistan to release Mr. Rahman immediately and stop all this “He’s a nut†nonsense. Mr. Rahman was born a Muslim and raised as such. If, when he comes of age, he cannot convert that is not much “Freedom of Religion†now is it?
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So, the face-saving way out for the Afghan government here is to assert that "if you become a Christian, you must be crazy." Oooookay!
Posted by: WM at March 22, 2006 11:00 AM (3aCNQ)
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Democracy has been rendered unpalatable by our misleader who hi-jacked the election process and demonstrated to the world what a fragile system democracy is that it can be bought by a green, tyrannical wannabe. His approach to spreading Democracy around the world is like trying to get a dog to come to you by beating it! He shirks from dealing with Afghanistan over this poor christian hostage citing Afghanistan's sovereignity!
We need sensible leadership that will work hard day and night trying to figure a way out of this mess even if it means missing a photo-op, golf game, 5-week war-time vacations, playing guitar with the old folks during hurricanes, or autistic basketball. http://votetoimpeach.org
The world is my oyster! Round 'em up and rope 'em off!
Posted by: Thesaurus at March 22, 2006 11:10 AM (Y2ILH)
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I have a question. My understanding is that Afghan law allows freedom of religion, but not freedom of converstion (?!), so basically you're stuck in whatever religion you happen to be born into.
This man faces a possible death sentence for converting from Isam to Christianity, but what if a Christian converts to Islam? This in fact happened with an American currently in an Afghan jail (I forget his name, he was a journalist accussed of freelance torture), but I don't see anyone trying to bring HIM to court.
Posted by: WM at March 22, 2006 11:21 AM (3aCNQ)
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Just another example of these fanatics thinking the stupidity of the west will accept a lame and faulty excuse as this. Odd that they didn't think he was too crazy to charge him and then request the death penalty UNTIL they found that the eyes of the world were upon them.
Even if they do indeed release Mr. Rahman we should not let up because they'll try it again.
Posted by: Oyster at March 22, 2006 11:29 AM (g9UJq)
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It always seems to bring us back to the same sticking point -- that majority Islamic nations are not ready, nor willing to accept Western style democracy.
Despite having moderate leadership, the Afghani citizens still expect, and insist that Islamic Jurisprudence prevails over democracy. They still want to beat their wives with a stick, and have them wear the burka, and expect them to be sub-servant.
Islam has no prevailing body to guide the majority of the religion, and instead has thousands of faceted religious leaders, most of which are radicalized "Firebrand" clerics, who only preside over a small percentage of Muslims. Without a single religious authority [unfortunately like the Taliban] to interpret, and lead the masses they all fall back to the last authority's rule [the Taliban] and will not change until another Islamic authority emerges to guide [/force] them to.
Posted by: davec at March 22, 2006 12:40 PM (CcXvt)
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To permit ANY departures from Islam is to pop the balloon.
Like the fall of the Berlin wall, or the failure of a dam, what seems minor is in fact a breach.
The foundation has been undermined: all may be swept away.
Posted by: blert at March 22, 2006 01:06 PM (NAB9Z)
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Dave, many of the adults are a lost cause. But the kids in Iraq, in particular, will grow into it and will likely reject the hateful ways of some of the elder's Imams. Even in Iraq this is going to take a couple generations.
Posted by: Oyster at March 22, 2006 01:38 PM (g9UJq)
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Oyster: perhaps the U.S should export some of our University professors to Iraqi, they seem experts in indoctrinating young adults in theories, and points-of-view that attack the way they have been raised and educated by their parents!
Posted by: davec at March 22, 2006 01:49 PM (CcXvt)
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Right after we send in all the menopausal women to wipe out the insurgency. Give us 2 - 3 days ... tops. We don't take prisoners.
Posted by: Oyster at March 22, 2006 02:24 PM (g9UJq)
next we'll deal with China's oppression of Christians as well.
Posted by: billy faeth at March 22, 2006 02:33 PM (Lc35u)
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"Doctors must examine him," he said. "If he is mentally unfit, definitely Islam has no claim to punish him. He must be forgiven. The case must be dropped."
Wow. So you need to be fully aware that you deserve death if you decide to quit Islam?
Those people ARE crazy.
- Max
Posted by: Max at March 22, 2006 02:33 PM (Ol+Ma)
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Our President is establishing democracy not freedom. This is a minor setback. With less than 15,000 tropps in Country we have no clout. These attacks on our Commander-in-Chief during a time of War only enable the enemy. Let the moonbats attack our President..my support in undiminished.
Posted by: DrewE at March 22, 2006 05:08 PM (n3umu)
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Dream on DrewE! A leader who seeks soley his own council is a dangerous man! Object lesson in progress!
Posted by: Thesaurus at March 22, 2006 06:49 PM (Y2ILH)
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You keep posting that Thesaurus. How do you explan Mr. Bush talking to Mr. Rumsfield, or Mr. Cheny, or Ms. Rice? Are they all the same person? From what you write they have to be.
Do you have any other lines? Perhaps, do not look into the sun, or you will grow hair on your palms if you keep doing that. How about if you play with fire, you might get burned.
Posted by: Leatherneck at March 22, 2006 07:42 PM (D2g/j)
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Well, IÃ’m fully back to Trent Park now and struggling to combine catching up with doing new things and unpacking. We have a desperate need of shelving which is currently being thwarted by the system.
Posted by: casino-on-line at May 24, 2006 10:25 PM (A3LWX)
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HeÃ’s impressed by how many people are keen to attend public talks and debates at the moment.
Posted by: avandia at May 25, 2006 03:40 AM (pSFja)
Why Don't You Die?That was the question this young lady’s Father-In-Law asked her. Eleven year old Gulsoma is tougher than the culture that traded her as a four year old bride. Please read Kevin Sites’ article on young Gulsoma from Afghanistan and Kevin provides a link where support for this brave young lady can be sent. As you can see from the picture of her to the right she has suffered much.
Gulsoma via Kevin Sites at Yahoo’s hotzone blogs : "When I was three years old my father died, and after a year my mother married again, but her second husband didn't want me," says Gulsooma. "So my mother gave me away in a promise of marriage to our neighbor's oldest son, who was thirty."
"They beat me with electric wires," she says, "mostly on the legs. My father-in-law told his other children to do it that way so the injuries would be hidden. He said to them, 'break her bones, but don't hit her on the face.'"
Disgusting! It’s very important that this poor young girl never falls back into the hands of her “family†where this abuse occurred. Too often I must post horrid stories from a culture where women are treated as property to be traded, worked and abused. Too often the abusers quote to teachings of Islam as where they determined that women are property subject to men. Once you view another human being as a piece of property, it’s a very short trip to the kind of treatment poor Gulsoma suffered.
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Like a thief who knows it's wrong and subconsciously wants to get caught, so the Father-in-law was providing punishment for his step-daughters future breeding of little suicide bombers. Such are the ways and means of a sick, depraved society based on Islam. Did we really expect any different?
Posted by: Hailus at March 21, 2006 12:00 PM (Y2ILH)
Posted by: Howie at March 21, 2006 12:46 PM (D3+20)
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To Whom it may corncern:
Save your idle disgruntlement for the terrorists! Rather they than me to go away!
Posted by: Hailus at March 21, 2006 12:48 PM (Y2ILH)
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To Whom it may corncern:
Save your idle disgruntlement for the terrorists! Rather they than me to go away!
Posted by: Hailus at March 21, 2006 12:54 PM (Y2ILH)
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Oh! No! I've been exposed by Oyster! Drat! Now I've got to dig through my wardrobe to find a different cloak!
Posted by: Hailus at March 21, 2006 01:28 PM (Y2ILH)
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Hailus, are you or are you not the same person who posts on Kevin Sites' Yahoo blog "Hotzone" as psychl0ps? You post your email here as psychl0ps@yahoo.com. And I know that when posting at Kevin's blog one's yahoo email username is automatically signed as the commenter. I ask because the comments there are pretty outrageous and belie your attitude here.
And I quote: "There was no need to capture Saddam. All we have to do is nuke'm in the bud! Wherever there is a threat building up just blow the crap out of it! No muss no fuss and a lot cheaper and with a lot less American causualities. Oh, how could I forget? It's the oil ......"
"Bush has declared war on the poor and the old! His inherent contempt for the underprivileged is apparent in his reverse Robin Hood policies of robbing from the poor to feed the rich! www.votetoimpeach.org"
"Thanks to John Wayne mentality, the U.S. has demonstrated to the world what a ridiculous notion democracy is! That it can be bought ( hi-jacked ) by maniacal tyrannical wannabes. Who wants it now!? Democracy for sale! Discount prices! Dirt Cheap! Are there no buyers out there? I suspect not! Now we can get back to the business of communism where the rich don't get richer and the poor poorer, where health care concerns are a thing of the past and where capitalism does not run rampant, destroying our planet in the process! Let's face it!"
If this is not you then you have hijacked someone else's email address claiming it as your own, which is just as bad.
Now - would you like to further discuss "Blog etiquette and respect"?
Posted by: Oyster at March 21, 2006 01:31 PM (g9UJq)
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Maybe she should tell the authorities, she found a Bible and prayer beads in her father-in-laws draw, then they'll spring into action with an apostate death sentence?
How the laws of their culture works, is unfathomable.
Posted by: davec at March 21, 2006 01:35 PM (CcXvt)
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Unfortunately her story is not that uncommon. Hers was an extreme case, but the abuse is too often condoned, ignored and sometimes sanctioned.
Posted by: Oyster at March 21, 2006 01:52 PM (g9UJq)
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Oyster: Save your busy-body digging and meddling for the enemy. Those with murder on their minds... Oh! and thanks for re-iterating some of my views, it saved me the trouble of copying and pasting. Idle mind busy-bodies like you can be handy after all!
Posted by: Hailus at March 21, 2006 02:00 PM (Y2ILH)
Posted by: Oyster at March 21, 2006 02:10 PM (g9UJq)
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Anyone want to help get the word out to impeach the reckless, clandestine wannabe chump? My way or the highway!
http://votetoimpeach.org
There are methods that work better ( actually work )that require more thoughtful planning and intelligence. Too much at stake to permit continued obstinancy and grade school black and white perceptions. Turn the reins over to a more competent leader. Someone who will work night and day to figure a way out of this mess, even if he/she must miss a photo-op, speech, golf, 5-week vacation, or strumming guitar with the old folks!
Posted by: Hailus at March 21, 2006 02:38 PM (Y2ILH)
16There are methods that work better ( actually work )that require more thoughtful planning and intelligence.
Damn, so you're completely stumped from the get go?
Posted by: davec at March 21, 2006 02:49 PM (CcXvt)
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I feel sorry for that young girl. I have read things like that happen every day in the Sudan.
By the way, can someone please get rid of Hailus. It appears he is insane.
Posted by: Leatherneck at March 21, 2006 03:32 PM (D2g/j)
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Oyster, I believe you have uncovered a two-faced little hypocrit. Ha ha ha!
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 21, 2006 04:11 PM (rUyw4)
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Yeah, that was worthy of a 20+ points: uncovering a 'wolf' in sheep's clothing, with a bonus for eviscerating him with his own posts.
Excellent.
Posted by: davec at March 21, 2006 04:26 PM (CcXvt)
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And these are the people that liberals have chosen to stand with, against all that is decent and good.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 21, 2006 07:02 PM (0yYS2)
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Just when I was ready to leave this sorry web-site I get drawn back into the fray! The world is my oyster!
Whoever can track Hailus or psychl0ps through cyberspace gets a free pissed on copy of the Quaran! Come on! It will be lots of fun and won't be a waste of your time! Your friends will be amazed!
Posted by: Thesaurus at March 21, 2006 10:22 PM (Y2ILH)
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It seems that Halius wants what is right but many of his methods are wrong. He is more like Bush than he knows.
You cannot separate the means from the end. They are inseparable.
Posted by: Markus at March 23, 2006 10:27 AM (cHb1T)
AFA Petition In Support of Abdul Rahman
Abdul is on Trial in Afghanistan for apostasy. His crime against Islam was he converted to Christianity. For that he faces penalties up to and including execution. Today the AFA asks that you sign a petition that will be sent to President Bush in support of Mr. Rahman.
Please email President Bush and ask him to intervene to save the life of Abdul Rahman. Help get others involved in saving the life of this Christian who refuses to deny Christ. Please forward this to friends and family and ask them to send the emails.
Sincerely,
Don
Donald E. Wildmon, Founder and Chairman
American Family Association
Now I reckon the AFA is a bit more conservative than I. But there is no denying their influence. This case I feel is one Howie can agree with. One thought I had was, under the law in Afghanistan, what happens to all Abdul’s property and his immediate family if he is executed?
Posted by: Hailus at March 21, 2006 09:58 AM (Y2ILH)
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why dont you hear Amnesty Internation and A.N.S.W.E.R and the A.C.L.U out rage over this? THIS SHOULD be front page and top news
Posted by: billy faeth at March 21, 2006 11:17 AM (Lc35u)
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Not to crazy over the AFA's approach - focuses on making it a religious issue rather than concentrate on incorporating it into an argument for the fundamental principals of freedom.
Posted by: hondo at March 21, 2006 02:04 PM (9pQ6D)
Posted by: Oyster at March 21, 2006 02:15 PM (g9UJq)
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Our fearless leader does not want to get involved, citing the sovereignty of Afghanistan. What a loser!
http://votetoimpeach.org
The World is my oyster! Round 'em up and rope 'em off!
Posted by: Thesaurus at March 22, 2006 10:37 AM (Y2ILH)
Taliban Murders Four Water Treatment Workers
This morning the news was that one German and three Albanians in Afghanistan would be murdered for helping rebuild the water system there.
Reuters : Omar's order was read by telephone late on Sunday to a Reuters reporter at the border town of Spin Boldak, in Kandahar province.
"These people had come to Afghanistan at America's behest, therefore they should be sentenced to death," Taliban spokesman Qari Mohammad Yousuf quoted the order as saying.
Earlier on Sunday, Yousuf had said four Albanians and four Afghans were being held.
But he later said the four Afghans, two of them drivers, had been released, and identified the foreigners as three Albanians and a German.
Shortly afterward I see news that these men were Murdered and their bodies dumped along the road accounding to Taliban “spokesman†terrorist Qari Mohammed Yousef.
BBC : The Taleban spokesman said the four foreigners had been shot dead.
"We will kill any one who is helping the Americans," he told the BBC.
One of the freed Afghans said they had been stopped by a group of 20 men dressed as police as they left Helmand for Kabul on Saturday morning.
"They tied our hands and feet and blindfolded us," the man, who did not wish to be named, told the BBC.
"They took the Albanians away from us to another location. We heard firing and the Albanians screaming. We couldn't see any thing because our eyes were closed."
Ecolog, the company the men worked for, is a German firm that treats dirty water at US and Afghan army bases.
Yes purifying water is an offense worthy of such a sentence by a one eyed no longer in power madman. Of course this is an attempt by the Taliban to show they have power to steal a bit of legitimacy by fear. Maybe if old one eye had actually thought about the welfare of the people of Afghanistan rather than looking for the next Budda to blow up he would not find himself committing murder for attention. Wait a minute, of course he would be that's what they do.
1Shortly afterward I see news that these men were Murdered and their bodies dumped along the road accounding to Taliban "spokesman" terrorist Qari Mohammed Yousef.
He speaks with impunity, he knows he can qualify as Yale University material after.
Posted by: davec at March 13, 2006 02:59 PM (CcXvt)
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Freedom fighters strike again! There is no illusion who or what these people are. Elements of Liberals and the left have clearly telegraphed that what's primarily (and solely) important to them is their own personal domestic agenda - everything else is just BS.
Posted by: hondo at March 13, 2006 03:52 PM (fyKFC)
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Nice way to win their hearts and minds. Of course, these paleotards don't know any other method than violence, which is why liberals adore them so.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 13, 2006 06:42 PM (0yYS2)
4The Taleban spokesman said the four foreigners had been shot dead. "We will kill any one who is helping the Americans,"
Send this man to Yale!
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 13, 2006 07:02 PM (8e/V4)
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Why, why? This is no acceptable! Those peple came over to support your Afghanistan and support the democracy by doing the right things for the people. I still can't understand why Taliban does these things. Aren't they muslims?
Posted by: Ramush at March 14, 2006 12:18 AM (UQNXK)
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Why, why? This is no acceptable! Those peple came over to support your Afghanistan and support the democracy by doing the right things for the people. I still can't understand why Taliban does these things. Aren't they muslims?
Posted by: RamushB at March 14, 2006 12:18 AM (UQNXK)
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at March 14, 2006 04:33 AM (CtVG6)
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you make misstake... those are muslim albanians and they came there to help afghan people... and they were killed... why... do you know what is HUMANITY... I dont think so
Posted by: Howie at March 14, 2006 02:18 PM (D3+20)
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First I would like to say that it is so wrong what the Taliban is doing, killing inocent people no matter what nationality are they. This is not the way Islam teach us, killing inocent people. Those Albanians were there to help Afgan people, not to hurt anyone, and you killed them. Shame on you, Taliban. May Allah bless those inocent people that you have killed.
Posted by: ALBANIAN at March 14, 2006 02:49 PM (u5w6N)
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Shame, shame , shame. You are killing inocent people, you are killing Muslim people. Those Albanians were Muslims. Allah will punish you
Posted by: Mohamed at March 14, 2006 02:54 PM (u5w6N)
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Mohammed : What about the German gentleman who was also murdered?
Posted by: Howie at March 14, 2006 03:13 PM (D3+20)
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No Howie, the fourth person killed is also an albanian with german citizenship, all 4 of them are ethnic albanians from Macedonia. we are muslims,but not the way they are. we are from Europe.
Posted by: euroal at March 17, 2006 07:15 AM (Sevff)
Suspected Taliban militants set fire on a girls school Thursday night in Afghan eastern province of Laghman, a local police said.
"Last night at about 12 p.m. (8:30 p.m. GMT) some suspected Taliban militants blazed a girls school in Haidar area, but there is no casualty of school staff," Hizbullah, the spokesperson of the governor told Xinhua.
The spokesperson blamed Taliban to carry out this kind of attack, and said the investigation is still going on.
According to some reliable resources, four school staff have been kidnapped by the militants, but the spokesperson denied.
There are no details about the four hostages.
In the southern Kandahar Province where the Taliban previously had a stronghold, attempts to intimidate teachers and students at girls' schools have been ongoing. With these attacks against women, I wonder how in the world the feminists can consistently come out against the global war on terror. Logic would indicate that women's rights advocates should be first in line to support the Bush administration and its efforts to defeat the Taliban and other terror groups.
All politics is domestic - Feminists position on the Taliban is as follows - abortions on demand now & tommarrow! Bush and Supreme Court - Hands off our bodies! ....
What does that have to do with the Taliban? Absolutely nothing - and so what!
I understand them perfectly!
Posted by: hondo at January 27, 2006 03:01 AM (3aakz)
Posted by: Afghanistan at January 27, 2006 04:01 AM (tjz9Z)
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Damn. Hondo used his evil, psychic, mind reading military espionage training to steal my comment. He's right. The only issue feminists, especially those in the US, care about is the right to an abortion. Mistreat women all you want, just let them have abortions. As for the feminists in the rest of the world, it's okay to mistreat women as long as the mistreatment is part of a long established cultural practice.....oh and the person perpetrating the act isn't a whitey.
Posted by: Graeme at January 27, 2006 05:52 AM (/fbJO)
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Feminists have consistently opposed the Taliban. I don't recall any specifically feminist opposition to the war in Afghanistan.
Do you have any evidence to back up the counterintuitive assertion that most feminists opposed the war in Afghanistan? Thanks.
Posted by: jpe at January 27, 2006 06:15 AM (+hqDO)
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Well, jpe, most of us would like to see the feminists condemn radical Islam, and Islam in general, for its Middle Ages view of women and women's rights. The feminists don't seem to be shy about condemning Christians for views much less radical by thousands of degrees than what most Muslims, and particularly the radical Muslims have.
What's up with that?
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 27, 2006 10:17 AM (rUyw4)
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There are lots of feminist condemnations of noxious groups like the Taliban, though.
Posted by: jpe at January 27, 2006 10:46 AM (5ceWd)
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I guess none of these Taliban boys joined an all male club in college so they get a pass.
I think they get support from the left for their belief in a fathers right to choose (to kill his daughters) if necessary. We can’t have government telling us how many girls we want to have around. Especially if the eldest gal brings dishonor to the family. I think this is known as Real Late Term Abortion. Pelosi and Boxer support it.
I love the left, “Keep your laws off my knifeâ€
Posted by: Brad at January 27, 2006 11:48 AM (Ffvoi)
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Apparently the Taliban, like oh, say, the other billion or so muslims in the world, didn't get the "religion of peace" memo.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 27, 2006 01:08 PM (0yYS2)
You are - correct. My apologies. Just having some fun with this and made an over-reaching analogy. I'll clarify this to feminists groups directly associated with a far-reaching leftist social agenda, where their agenda is more important that specific cases as this.
jpe - wiil that suffice?
Posted by: hondo at January 27, 2006 04:35 PM (3aakz)
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please excuse my spelling mistakes - cooking - rushing this with no preview.
Posted by: hondo at January 27, 2006 04:38 PM (3aakz)
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Feminists ARE Taliban. They treat others just like the Taliban do. They want the world to work only one way - their way. They are intolerant of anything else.
Posted by: Dave at January 27, 2006 05:14 PM (/x2u5)
Al Jazeera Crew Arrested Photographing Security Features of US Base In Kabul
From The Peninsula:
KABUL: US forces yesterday arrested three employees of the Al Jazeera TV channel for filming near a US base here, but later released them. Correspondent Waliullah Shaheen, cameraman Nasir Hashimi and driver Mahmood Agha were filming the removal of concrete block barriers which had been installed outside all military bases and offices of foreigners for protection. “We were arrested and detained by coalition for an hour, then handed over to Afghan police, who kept us for four hours before releasing us,†Shaheen said. “The American soldiers confiscated five telephones and our camera, and kept it,†he added. A US military spokesman, Lieutenant Mike Cody, said the three were held after they were seen “filming security features in the vicinity of Camp Eggers in Kabulâ€.
But Samir Allawi, Aljazeera's Kabul bureau chief, said the team was merely following up on the Afghan government's plan to remove all illegal cement barriers blocking 48 Kabul roads, causing traffic problems.
Yeah, that's the ticket. A television network seen all over the world had a three-man crew watching Afghans remove traffic barriers. Okay.
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Don't they have a terrorist somewhere to interview?
Funny that, as indignant as they can be, they weren't filming these barriers before complaining about their illegality.
Posted by: Oyster at January 02, 2006 03:53 AM (YudAC)
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Agent Smith says that if you think Al-Jazeera keeps an eye on your stupid human grotesqueries, meet the Agents.
Posted by: Agent Smith at January 02, 2006 06:22 AM (b1Uko)
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Given Al Jazeera's undisputed support of terrorist attacks (and that case of terrorism support in Spain a while back), they really can't complain if someone automatically becomes suspicious of their presence. Suprisingly though, Al Jazeera's take on it wasn't what I expected. I was expecting to read about the air strikes that were called in against their van and the beatings and torture that they underwent during interrogation.
Posted by: Graeme at January 02, 2006 07:53 AM (R/kPF)
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Agents, meet my Socom II. Your grotesqueries would be fun to watch. Ever heard of dancing, western style?
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 02, 2006 08:43 AM (rUyw4)
MSNBC: “More than 200 Taliban have registered themselves for suicide attacks with us which shows that a Muslim can even sacrifice his life for the well-being of his faith. Our suicide attackers will continue jihad [holy war] until Americans and all of their Muslim and non-Muslim allies are pulled out of the country,†he said.
ABCNEWS Australia : Two would-be suicide bombers have blown themselves up while strapping on explosives in an Afghan town bordering Pakistan, police said.
Posted by: Ariya at December 29, 2005 02:37 PM (uxW3N)
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After futher digging it appears the other was a roadside bomb. I could have sworn there was an other suicide bomber.
Posted by: Howie at December 29, 2005 02:44 PM (D3+20)
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Agent Smith says that the costs were internalised.
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 29, 2005 10:04 PM (TP7SP)
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Ooooooh, a taliban offensive. We're in trouble now. Can anyone say Daisy Cutter?
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at December 30, 2005 04:31 AM (CtVG6)
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Has anyone heard the joke that goes "How do you stop a Taliban tank? You shoot the guys pushing it." Enough said.
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at December 30, 2005 04:35 AM (CtVG6)
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Our guys in Afghanistan probably wish they'd get on with it, since they're getting tired of digging them out of their holes. Allah's warriors are nothing but goathumping pedersasts and allah is the god of rats and lice.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 30, 2005 08:19 AM (0yYS2)
Taliban Spokesman Hakim Latifi Arrested in Pakistan
Here's some good news from FOXNEWS.
Some Pakistani officials said Latifi was arrested Tuesday, but the intelligence official said he was detained Sunday at a home in Quetta's Newi Killi neighborhood. The announcement of Latifi's arrest had been delayed because he was being interrogated about other Taliban leaders, the official said.
Hooray!!! The Jawa Report has extensive archives of the Islamic Army in Iraq's activities. Use the search MPJ with "Islamic Army in Iraq" and you will see just how good this is. Some question of the term Leader if not THE leader he was ONE.
Woman & Child Murdered by Terrorists in Afghanistan
More of the Left's 'freedom fighters' doing the work of liberation exactly as our Founding Fathers did--you know, by murdering women and children.
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I am amazed that the BBC didn't howl that it was the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS that killed the woman and her daughter and that somehow, Haliburton and Bush Hitler created the environment that allowed this to happen.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at October 04, 2005 09:33 AM (5ceWd)
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The BBC is becoming as bad as TODAY,GOOD MORNING AMERICA amd the CBS MORNING NEWS or SUNDAY MORNING or the rest of the liberal news media like DATELINE,NIGHTLINE and the rest the only good face is JOHN STOSSEL
Posted by: sandpiper at October 04, 2005 02:39 PM (PObDu)
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FUCK U ALL, U RACIST PIECES OF SHIT, ILL KILL U ALL, AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!! ALLAHU AKBAR! AHAHHAHA
Posted by: Me at October 05, 2005 09:32 AM (tq8rS)
Report: Taliban MIGHT Have al Qaeda Links
At least twelve people were killed in Kabul today when a mass-murderer on a motorcycle exploded himself in Afghanistan's capital city. You might have heard this in the news already, but look how New Zealand's Mail and Guardian is spinning the story. Here is the headline:
Kabul attack raises fear of al-Qaeda link to Taliban
What? Is this a joke? Ok, so maybe the headline is misleading. You know, like a typo or something. Sometimes headlines don't do a story justice. The only people who have any doubt that the Taliban were simply the institutionalized political wing of the Salafist jihad in Afghanistan also wear tin foil and believe that 9/11 was an 'inside job'. Let's go on to the story:
Afghan officials believe al-Qaeda has renewed its ties with the Taliban.
Renewed its ties? Again, what idiot actually thinks those ties were ever severed? Seriously? But at least the story admits that there were ties, you know, at one time.
The facts of the story actually get at what is really going on. What is meant is that the Taliban are now copying tactics used by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's al Qaeda in Iraq, and that foreign jihadis with ties to al Qaeda are entering Afghanistan in larger numbers.
In an interview published this week, a Taliban commander boasted he had trained in Iraq for several months and was now bringing his expertise home.
"I want to copy in Afghanistan the tactics and spirit of the glorious Iraqi resistance," Muhammad Daud told Newsweek.
Hours before Wednesday's blast, the Afghan intelligence agency, the NDS, told security groups that al-Qaeda had formed a new group, named Fedayani Islam (Sacrifices for Islam), and sent suicide bombers into southern Afghanistan, seeking "targets of opportunity".
As someone who has a bit of knowledge about this subject, let me state categorically that there is not a bit of difference between al Qaeda and the Taliban. Different organizations, yes, but with the same goals and who are now, and have always been, tied together. Further, al Qaeda and the Taliban never left Afghanistan. Why the hell do you think we've had troops in that country for over 3 years now? To make such a claim reveals a depth of ignorance so great that it is almost unfathonable.
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Having unprotected sex with a dozen strangers at the shelter, might be bad for you. OH NOOOOOOOO!!!! Who would have though! OooOOooOOoHHhhHHHH the humaity....
Posted by: Filthy Allah at September 29, 2005 08:44 AM (5ceWd)
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New Zealand has it's dingbats the same as America. Dingbatitus is a world problem. Not just a United States problem.
Posted by: greyrooster at September 29, 2005 08:49 AM (M7kiy)
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Holy crap liberals are getting stupider, and bolder, every day. I say stupider not because I labor under the delusion that they don't know better; they do. Oh yes, dear heart, they know exactly what they're doing, and they know who's side they're on. (Clue: It isn't ours.) Liberals would love nothing better than to see our country a smoking, radioactive ruin, or at least the parts they have no use for, like the parts where white people live happy, productive lives, untrammeled by the vagaries of totalitarian socialist government.
They explicitly, actively, and openly support our enemies at every turn, blissfully ignoring the fact that those same enemies, their ideological brothers-in-arms, would round them up for the headsman first, because the things that liberals stand for, i.e. promiscuity, homosexuality, drugs and booze, women's rights, (sorry, wymyn's rights), etc., are not really on the 'slamotards list of their favorite things. About the only two factors I can think of that liberals and 'slamotards have in common is a hatred of Western civilization, (though they don't hesitate to use the things made possible by it), and a tolerance for, and promotion of, pedophilia. I know a lot of people think that when I write "Liberals should all be taken out and shot!", that I'm just being inflammatory and facetious, but no, I'm dead serious.
Envision, if you will, a castle. It's a big, beautiful castle, handed down for generations in trust to its builders' heirs, who are charged with its maintenance and defense. Now, the inhabitants of this castle can come and go as they wish, because there are many gates, and people from outside the castle can come live inside and enjoy its safety and comfort, where they are free to prosper. If they find life in the castle odious, they can leave at any time and find a place that suits them better. In the old days, people understood this, but now, it seems that many don't.
We have among us, living in the castle alongside us, a significant group of malcontents who have never known life outside the castle, but who hear tales of other lands, and with this little knowledge, they compare these fantastical visions to their own lives within the castle walls. They believe that there are other lands, other castles, where the people are even more free, more happy, and more enlightened than those miserable inhabitants with whom they share space, and loathe for it.
These malcontents, those of the castle who for one reason or another hate it, want to change things. They hate the castle walls for holding them in, though there are many gates through which they may leave freely. They hate those who are in charge of running the castle, though they are selected democratically from among the people. And they hate the people who live in the castle itself, calling them fat, stupid, lazy, greedy, unjust, etc., though they themselves live no differently than those they hate.
Now, envision the grounds outside the castle crowded with people who want to get in. Many just want to live in peace and freedom so they can prosper, many just want to visit then go home, but many, too many, want to see if the castle might be taken over, since those charged with maintaining and defending the castle seem to be mired in one scandal after another, and cannot do their jobs.
Many of these invaders come in, because they do not come as enemies, but as visitors, so they easily gain admission to the castle, but once inside, they begin undermining the walls, poisoning the wells, and storing weapons for their eventual takeover attempt. This isn't the worst part, though. The worst part is that those earlier mentioned malcontents, who hate the castle and its people, though they are part of it and them, are helping the enemies who seek to know down the castle's walls so that an invading army can sweep in and take over.
They help them undermine the walls, they help them poison the wells, and they spread dissention and discontent among the people, making infalmmatory accusations of scandal and corruption against anyone who is not helping them to destroy the castle. There is a name for people who aid the enemies of their countrymen: Traitors.
When people still lived in castles, and found some among them trying to undermine the walls and help enemies slip in through unwatched gates, they would take those people and hang them from the castle walls, so that all could see what becomes of traitors, and the enemies found to have slipped in would be sent home in small baskets, as a warning to further enemies. No castle was ever kept by letting traitors and enemies have the run of the place, and no castle was ever lost by hanging traitors and dismembering enemies. People don't live in castles anymore, but traitors and enemies have not changed, and the best methods for dealing with them have not changed.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 29, 2005 10:39 AM (0yYS2)
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Over at the Belmont Club there is a semi-regular commentator who goes by IOTM. Essentially he is a troll and is not at all convinced the Taliban had a thing to do with 9/11. Therefore he views our intervention in Afghanistan as a bad thing.
I called him a MoveOn nutter and do not bite on his flamebait anymore.
MoveOn and CodePink are of the same mind.
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at September 29, 2005 10:40 AM (twKqp)
Are you saying that it is time for Squire Jesusland Joe to break out the Tewksbury axe and begin to hew at the necks of our enemies?
Posted by: jesusland joe at September 29, 2005 03:44 PM (rUyw4)
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Yes, hewing is in order. Or stretching. We can have two lines.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 29, 2005 07:21 PM (0yYS2)
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Comments may be said with light heartedness but I wonder if we have been talking to the Islamofacists in a language they understand. I think they do not take us seriously because of our tactics. To them, educated and conditioned to cruelity, our follow the rules and be kind and gentle methods show weakness. The idiots are used to having their hands and heads cut off for the smallest things. Anything else seems to be taken as we are not serious. Putting them in jail and feeding them well doesn't get the point across.
They kill women for infidelity. How does jailing them for a few months for murder show we are serious?
Posted by: greyrooster at September 29, 2005 07:50 PM (M7kiy)
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You're right rooster, our harshest measures so far seem to have no effect on them. I say we start burying the dead terrorists wrapped in pigskins, and make the captives wear pigskin jumpsuits.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 29, 2005 11:09 PM (0yYS2)
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Impy - how's the new meds you keep hiding in the slippers and mixing with the friskies?
Klanrooster - gotta lay off the wild turkey before you hurt yourself!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at September 30, 2005 05:40 AM (A5eqb)
Bin Laden Said to be Dying (UPDATE: Military Denies Report)
Jawa Report readers will recall that on Sept. 7th we received information that some major news would be coming out of Afghanistan in the following weeks. At the time we labeled our information 'a rumor' since we could not confirm it. Today, Ed Morrissey notices that more rumors out of Afghanistan have begun to percolate to the mainstream media.
The Jawa Report, one step ahead in reporting unsubstantiated rumors.....(thanks to tip from source that wishes to remain anonymous)
UPDATE: Military now denying report. Scroll down for details
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HMmmmmm.... Interesting. Would be even more interesting if the medication wasn't just for him but for his core group surrounding him. Perhaps he is looking for meds to take care of ....Small pox?
Posted by: Filthy Allah at September 14, 2005 09:11 AM (5ceWd)
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Maybe its the AIDS? I heard he and Yassar were close... REAL close. Along with that goat named Timmy, or Ahmed... whatever.
Posted by: Wine-aholic at September 14, 2005 09:30 AM (Wsn+K)
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Could it be that the fear of dying has driven him to surrender in order to get Western Medical Care.
Would this be his last attack? Against medicare?
Posted by: Fred Fry at September 14, 2005 09:50 AM (JXdhy)
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I hope Kos has his "I suspect the timing" macro ready.
Posted by: ericj at September 14, 2005 10:00 AM (hrQvk)
The “ill†report is being denied by the military as a press mistake.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/14/MTFH09854_2005-09-14_14-55-06_SCH434067.html
KABUL (Reuters) - The U.S. military in Afghanistan denied on Wednesday that one of its officers had told reporters Osama bin Laden was seeking medical attention.
The London-based Arabic newspaper al-Hayat, citing U.S. Colonel Don McGraw in a briefing with reporters in Kabul, said on Wednesday that the al Qaeda leader was in poor health and was trying to obtain medical attention.
But a U.S. military spokeswoman in Kabul said McGraw had not said that.
"Colonel McGraw did not say Osama bin Laden was trying to get medical attention," said the spokeswoman, Lieutenant Cindy Moore.
"We're working with the editor to correct the record," she said of the al Hayat report.
Posted by: JohnMc at September 14, 2005 10:12 AM (y+I+a)
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Maybe it's the same Jew poisons that killed Arafat?
Posted by: Laurence Simon at September 14, 2005 11:23 AM (uBCxH)
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And by 'jew poison' you mean the Zionist-Mossad-CIA created AIDS, right?
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But didn't he just lead a charge against a Spanish base in Afghanistan? Sure he did. And I'm really Paris Hilton.
If he is sick, I hope it hurts like hell.
Posted by: Oyster at September 14, 2005 11:45 AM (fl6E1)
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If he should be "Ailing" and should he die . . A good thing, perhaps . .
But as Communism prospered (if you could call it that) after the death of Karl Marx so will the insane idea of Islamofascism, with or without bin Laden . . .
And while the idea of Genocide of an entire religion scares me, the Idea of them taking over the world scares me more!
Posted by: large at September 14, 2005 01:11 PM (Ny1Tj)
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Seems to me that most times there is a report, that the US Government or US Military denies (as a first response to the report), we find out that the original report turns out to have some sort of truth behind it.
I suppose we will just have to wait and see what develops of this one. In the meantime, shortwave broadcasts seem to be a more reliable means of obtaining information and usually come long before the US media breaks a story.
Posted by: They're_Lying at September 14, 2005 01:54 PM (0wdEx)
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That bastard better not die, I want to see video of him getting dragged from a hole in the ground like a rat, just like his butt-buddy Saddam.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 14, 2005 05:20 PM (0yYS2)
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So DSM I see you are coming around after that direct threat to Australia from Al-Qaeda huh.
Posted by: Howie at September 15, 2005 08:35 AM (D3+20)
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If this is true then they must be preparing a big party for him in that flamming p[lace far far below with some fellow with horns and a pitch fork waiting to shake his hand and say CONGRAULATIONS WELCOME HOME AND IM THE REAL GREAT SATAN
Posted by: sandpiper at September 15, 2005 03:55 PM (vnSBY)
Soldiers in Afghanistan Remember 9/11
It's already 9/11 in Afghanistan. Among the several hundred news articles that pass on the Leftist meme that the U.S. hasn't really accomplished anything after 9/11, I did find one from Reuters reporting from Afghanistan.
Of course, it wouldn't be al Reuters if halfway into the article they cut away from it to remind readers that the U.S. hasn't really accomplished anything after 9/11 in Afghanistan.
Here's how our soldiers in Afghanistan are remembering the day that changed the world. God bless them, every one.
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It is good they do as the MSM/DNC is pretending it never happened.
Posted by: Jo macDougal at September 10, 2005 04:30 PM (LbyCD)
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Uh oh, they read the Bible! The ACLU and the DNC are going to eat their babies for this one!
Thank God our boys know what's at stake here, and thank God they haven't forgotten.
Posted by: Steve the Pirate at September 10, 2005 05:43 PM (+OODj)
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Bet the ACLU is preparing some legal action on this! Do not forget as Cal's own Pelosi has recently said these Muslim murderers were "freedom fighters". My definition of "freedom fighter" is 180 degrees out of phase with Nancy. But then she and I are almost polar opposites.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at September 10, 2005 07:16 PM (tplWd)
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Afghanishan is booming.... boom, Boom BOOM!! Can you smell the freedom mixed with gunpowder?
Afghanistan Rumor
A source is telling me that there will be some major news out of Afghanistan in the next few weeks. I wonder what I possibly could be implying?
These rumors have been wrong in the past. Call it wishful thinking. The source, though, is taking this all rather seriously. Not his usual MO.
OBL caught/dead/humping a camel 12-1
Mullah Omar caught/dead/humping a camel 17-1
Afghans hold telethon for Americans affected by Katrina - raise $1 billion in 48 hours as the drug dealers around the world bid on opium plots 75-1
Major new coalition offensive finds hidden WMD stocks that are linked to both Pakistan 20-1 and Iraq 25-1
US troops are heading home after finishing the job, new US troops heading to Afghanistan are there to serve as advisors to help reconstruction 30-1
Posted by: lawhawk at September 07, 2005 03:40 PM (AcoYr)
Posted by: The Man at September 07, 2005 03:50 PM (EDlAL)
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I want pictures of OBL humping the camel. I need those for my collector's set. Not so much the little boy though... you would think OBL to be more discrete.
Posted by: Wine-aholic at September 07, 2005 03:53 PM (Wsn+K)
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Actually the news (when offered) out of Afghanistan has been very good for some time. The spring/summer offensive launched by the enemy failed big time with heavy enemy causlties. The only media news covered during that period was the helio shootdown and Seal Team loss - again, media coverage and fascination with these items totally devoid of context with the wider battles. Anyway, a failed major offensive by the enemy tends to bring lots of captured prisoners, materials, documents and other great intel our way. Add to that, the enemy has to move its OPs,CPs, and other set-ups since they can and will have been compromised. An enemy advancing to the rear is an excellent target.
Posted by: hondo at September 07, 2005 03:54 PM (4Gtyc)
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Heroin cultivation hits an all-time high? (no pun intended)
Posted by: Venom at September 07, 2005 03:58 PM (dbxVM)
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I'm hoping they have a body that think is Binny, Zawahiri or Omar and are awaiting DNA tests to confirm. Doubt it though. I thought it was interesting that the LA times article (linked to in Jawa) regarding a raid in Kandahar involved troops that were parachuted in. That is not done often. Perhaps a big target. We can only hope.
Posted by: Cruiser at September 07, 2005 04:02 PM (L11K0)
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there was also some rumor floating around that some biggies were killed in that raid, but mention of the possibility has since disappeared......
Posted by: caltechgirl at September 07, 2005 04:16 PM (PI0gZ)
Posted by: Rusty at September 07, 2005 04:26 PM (JQjhA)
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Might explain why Ayman al Zawahiri has been doing all the tapes.
Posted by: Howie at September 07, 2005 04:35 PM (D3+20)
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The suspense is killing me. LawHawk, I'll take - OBL caught humping Mullah Omar.
Posted by: Oyster at September 07, 2005 04:35 PM (fl6E1)
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Afghani National baseball team beats Seattle Mariners 6-3?
Posted by: Brad at September 07, 2005 05:04 PM (3OPZt)
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New Orleans Saints move their 2005 home games to Kabul: 50-1
Posted by: Joshua at September 07, 2005 05:17 PM (XPnN/)
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Bin Laden and Tammy Imre (see below) and an eight year old boy?
Video of Osama dynamiting the Ponchartrain levees?
Mash note from Qusay to Obie, offering to let him crash in Iraq until the heat's off?
Video of CIA operative secretly replacing Obie's dialysis filter with dark, sparkling Folger's crystals?
Compromising photo of Mullah Omar and Iran's new Prime Minister dancing the funky chicken at a terrorist training camp in the late 80's?
George Galloway's mustache hairs identified by DNA, embedded in the hiney of OBL's charred corpse?
Hillary! fundraising letter addressed to Bashar Assad?
Discovery of Zarqawi's cache of exotic bukkake porn?
Tell us, Rusty! We'll keep it between ourselves and Google News.
Posted by: See-Dubya at September 07, 2005 05:19 PM (yCYiB)
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Planned Parenthood sets up new Karachi headquarters.
Sean Penn turns up atop mountain NE of Kabul in boat with two photographers, two columnists, two directors, two...
Pork chop restaurant opens in Jalalabad.
Posted by: Oyster at September 07, 2005 06:11 PM (YudAC)
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Mullah Omar has taken to pronouncing "Mullah" as W does "Mooolaaaah".
That is the news.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at September 07, 2005 07:05 PM (bikuR)
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A new bad gay Pr0n film from the middle east starring Osama, Mullah Omar, Zarqawi, and, reprising his Adult Video Movie Award winning role as Best Actor In A Lead Role Popping Jihadi Man Booty: Filthy Allah!
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at September 07, 2005 07:51 PM (Kr6/f)
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at September 07, 2005 07:59 PM (NIp8w)
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I'll wager a four drachma gourd and a fake beard that Osama was turned in by a Brazilian plastic surgeon after having had a sex change and boob job, and they're just waiting for the bandages to come off.
And that he wants to be called Loretta.
Because he wants to have babies.
Because it's symbolic of his stuggle against oppression.
And he wants Pilate, uh, Bush, to wewease Wodewick.
Because he has spiwit.
You know, spiwit; bwavado; a touch of dewwing do.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 07, 2005 11:18 PM (0yYS2)
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http://www.dawn.com/2005/09/07/top3.htm
anything to do with this maybe?
Posted by: ike at September 07, 2005 11:30 PM (j+tr0)
Dozens of Taliban Killed and Captured
Dozens of Taliban fighters have been killed or captured in Afghanistan in the past few days. Good news, all around.
.S. and Afghan forces killed 25 suspected Taliban fighters and captured dozens more in operations in two southern provinces over two days, Afghan and U.S. officials said.
On Monday, U.S. and Afghan forces killed 12 suspected militants and detained nine others in a raid in Zabol province, the U.S. military said. Soldiers were brought by helicopter into a remote area where militants were believed to be gathering before launching attacks. No casualties were reported among the Afghan and U.S. forces.
The operation in Zabol followed a raid in neighboring Kandahar province in which U.S. and Afghan forces killed 13 suspected Taliban fighters, and captured dozens more, in a remote area where a political candidate was kidnapped and executed last week, a provincial official said.
U.S. and Afghan troops dropped by parachute from American aircraft in the operation, which began Sunday, Kandahar Gov. Asadullah Khalid said by telephone from Kandahar city, the provincial capital. None of the coalition troops was injured.
The assault targeted insurgents suspected of killing Khan Mohammed, a candidate for Kandahar's provincial council in the country's Sept. 18 election who was abducted Friday, the governor added. A district commissioner and three policemen were killed along with Mohammed.
At least four other candidates have been killed in the weeks before the election for the lower house of Afghanistan's parliament and provincial councils. It is Afghanistan's first parliamentary election since U.S.-led forces toppled the Taliban's hard-line Islamic regime in late 2001.
Parenthetically, a number of the candidates murdered by the Taliban have been beheaded.
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I thought the war in Afghanistan was over? Didn't Pelosi say so months ago? Why rain on my parade?
Posted by: hondo at September 06, 2005 04:02 PM (4Gtyc)
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Good. Let's keep them squashed everytime they rear their ugly, turbin wrapped heads. Thankfully, they're even more inept organizationally than other terror groups.
Hondo: Pelosi is one of the most clueless members of the congress we have. What I find shocking is that there are many in California who love Boxer and hate Pelosi at the same time. How they can reconcile those two ideas in their heads leaves me befuddled.
Posted by: Oyster at September 07, 2005 05:32 AM (YudAC)
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BANG BANG THEIR ALL DEAD FIFTY BULLETS IN THEIR HEADS and wow i,ll bet the place their going to isnt paradise its aplace hot flamming smelling of sulfur and with a guy with horns and a pitch fork
Posted by: sandpiper at September 07, 2005 01:57 PM (g1M1/)
Afghanistan Donates to Katrina Relief
President Hamid Karzai has signed a decree on behalf of the people of Afghanistan, allowing for the donation of $130,000 in disaster relief aid to the victims of Hurricane Katrina.
It's small when compared to the amount of U.S. foreign aid received by Afghanistan, but it's the thought that counts.
If you see contributions not listed, please leave a URL in the comments.
Posted by: Aaron's cc: at September 04, 2005 07:40 PM (ov6Vw)
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thats awesome...as poor a country as Afghanistan is, war torn, still have the remains of the Taliban running around the countryside making trouble and they can still show gratitude for what the West has done for them,,,gave them freedon...wonder how much the French gave
Posted by: THANOS35 at September 04, 2005 09:26 PM (hcN1S)
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France didn't give any money, but they made an offer...
Btw, nice site aaron. It is great how even some of the poorer countries chipped in, and some of the other richer countries...well...
Posted by: Sheila at September 04, 2005 09:32 PM (MW0lp)
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I'd be happy if Afghanistan simply made a mutual defense agreement with India, just to piss off the Pakis.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 05, 2005 12:04 AM (0yYS2)
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This brings tears to my eyes and hope to my heart that our efforts in Afghanistan are paying off. May we have a long and successful partnership with the Afghani people.
Posted by: Ruth at September 05, 2005 08:18 AM (Ior1p)
Japanese Tourists Found Dead
(Kabul, Afghanistan) Tourists Jun Fukusho, 44, and Shinobu Hasegawa, 30, both junior high school teachers from Hiroshima, disappeared on August 8 in southern Afghanistan. Their bodies, confirmed by dental records, were found Thursday in a ditch outside Kandahar. According to the Japanese Foreign Ministry, both "had been shot in the head point-blank."
While acknowledging that their deaths were brutal, senseless, and criminal, I have to seriously question the wisdom of touring Afghanistan while the country is at war.
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I've got to agree. It's not the safest place to be.
Posted by: RepJ at September 04, 2005 11:52 AM (M7kiy)
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Some people just ain't too bright. Hell, I don't even go to Atlanta in broad daylight, and I damn sure ain't gonna go to any muslim country without fire support on tap.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 04, 2005 01:18 PM (0yYS2)
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The Japanese like to get everywhere and don't seem to think much about consequences as long as they can take a few photos. Shosei Koda was another good example of this kind of folly.
Posted by: Jester at September 04, 2005 04:28 PM (QKZX5)
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 04, 2005 06:44 PM (0yYS2)
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if they wanted to take a look around they should have either had some local protection or looked into having some American troops guide them around...i mean, common sense, you dont go wandering around in a strange land knowing that there are unfriendlys around
Posted by: THANOS35 at September 04, 2005 09:28 PM (hcN1S)
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I think the problem with the Japanese is that they think the rest of the world is as safe as Japan, who are a civilized people. In truth most of the rest of the world is populated by bloodthirsty savages, and travelers forget this at their peril.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 05, 2005 03:21 PM (0yYS2)
Taliban Spokesman: Al-Qaeda Escapees Are Safe
Apparently, the terrorists who escaped from the Bagram detention center are now in the southern part of Afghanistan.
Four Arab al Qaeda militants who escaped from a heavily fortified U.S. detention center in Afghanistan this week reached a Taliban haven safely on Thursday, a spokesman for the guerrilla movement said.
"The Taliban found and recovered four al-Qaeda mujahideen (holy warriors) this morning," Taliban spokesman Abdul Latif Hakimi said from an undisclosed location.
Hakimi, whose information has often proved unreliable, declined to say where the escapees were, but added: "They are far away from Kabul. They are safe and now taking rest."
The Pakistani-based Afghan Islamic Press news agency quoted another, unnamed, Taliban spokesman as saying the men were in the south of the country. "They are alright. They had some bruises to their feet ... they are being given medicines."
Wait a minute! The Taliban has a spokesman? And, he's often unreliable? Say, whatever happened to Baghdad Bob?
Anyway, the escapees have been named and they come from four different countries, Syrian Abdullah Hashimi, Kuwaiti Mahmoud Ahmad Mohammad, Saudi Mahmoud Alfatahni, and Libyan Mohammad Hassan.
In the same report, a member of the Taliban leadership council, Mullah Dadullah, told Al Jazeera television that the group possessed anti-aircraft weapons and was seeking to obtain even more powerful arms.
Would it be possible to get spokesman Hakimi back on the line for a lengthy chat?
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Something tells me this escape may have had some help from the inside. Like from the MI guys. I'll bet a dollar those "escapees" are bugged somehow. I can imagine the conversation: "Welcome back Abdul, have you gained weight? I see those infidels made you eat all sorts of anti-islamic food. What's that sound? Airplanes, here? No, couldn't be..."
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 14, 2005 02:41 PM (0yYS2)
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Remember those little bombs they put in Snake Pliskin's carotid arteries in "Escape from New York"? Or the one around Arnie's neck at the beginning of "The running man"?
Why don't all arab prisoners have that device?
10 feet on the other side of the wall and "boom".
Posted by: King at July 14, 2005 02:43 PM (DIg3w)
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I don't know King, maybe it's our sense of sportsmanship.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 14, 2005 02:47 PM (0yYS2)
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I wonder if the escapees will report any Koran abuse.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 02:54 PM (x+5JB)
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 14, 2005 03:32 PM (Kr6/f)
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This Taliban "spokesman" is the same jackoff who falsely claimed that the Taliban had captured the last missing Navy SEAL and beheaded him. Lying sack of camel crap.
"In the same report, a member of the Taliban leadership council, Mullah Dadullah, told Al Jazeera television that the group possessed anti-aircraft weapons and was seeking to obtain even more powerful arms."
Taliban spokesman Hakami confirmed that the Taliban is close to obtaining a neutron death ray from the Planet Zardoz.
Posted by: Kevin at July 14, 2005 04:00 PM (pfvPv)
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You forgot to mention that the death ray will be emplaced on their secret moon base and manned by Elvis.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 14, 2005 04:40 PM (0yYS2)
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Quite right, Maximus. That was lost in translation.
Posted by: Kevin at July 14, 2005 06:17 PM (pfvPv)
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"Mullah Dadullah" ? Where do these guys get these names?
Posted by: Oyster at July 15, 2005 06:07 AM (YudAC)
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And you can't play the "banana-fanna-fo-fanna" song with them either.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 15, 2005 07:15 PM (0yYS2)
Afghan Rebels Make Peace
(Gardez, Afghanistan) Here's some good news if you are interested in seeing Afghanistan become united on the path toward freedom and democracy. Sadly, the elite media seems to be ignoring the story.
Eighteen of Gulbiddin Hekmatyar’s Hezb-e Islami commanders turned themselves over to government officials in the Paktia Province June 12.
Under the terms of the Afghan government’s reconciliation program, Pakhm-e Sohl, the former commanders returned home after years of living in Pakistan.
Upon meeting with Governor Abdel Hakim Taniwal, Provincial Reconstruction Team or PRT Soldiers, and government representatives, who explained the provisions of the program to them, the commanders pledged their loyalty to the Karzai government by signing statements.
The loyalty statement to the Afghan government includes an agreement not to possess heavy weapons or take up arms against the Afghan government or Coalition forces. The commanders received new reconciliation identification cards and were embraced by Taniwal who welcomed them back to Afghan society.
For background, Gulbiddin Hekmatyar founded the Hezbi Islami in the 1970s largely consisting of Pashtun tribesmen from eastern Afghanistan. Since that time, Hezbi Islami has been a major player in the many armed conflicts in Afghanistan, fighting the Russians, the Mujaheedin, and the current government. Back in the 1990s, Hekmatyar's forces turned Kabul into a ghost city through a devastating series of rocket volleys. An estimated 2,000 people were killed while 500,000 fled.
So, by any measure, the Hezbi Islami is a major military element in the country. However, it has also been a prime political and ethnic leader for the large Pashtun segment of the Afghan population (42 percent). Consequently, by laying down arms and ending hostilities, Hekmatyar's commanders have given heightened authenticity and authority to the democratic Afghan government.
In my opinion, the fact that Gulbiddin Hekmatyar’s Hezbi Islami has chosen to become part of the new Afghanistan should be heralded by the international media as a major step toward pulling the country into the 21st Century. It should also be heralded as a win in the battle against backwardness, and a victory for freedom and democracy. So far, the elite media hasn't mentioned it. Maybe I'm making too big a deal about it.
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That is huge news. You can't make a big enough deal out of it.
Posted by: Oyster at July 11, 2005 08:45 AM (fl6E1)
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Let's hope that more of these people smarten up and realize that they aren't going to win. The best thing for them to do is to throw down the rocket launcher and head back to the family.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 11, 2005 08:54 AM (x+5JB)
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What happened to the arguement that we can't make peace with this sort, we can only irradicate them? I thought that 'these subhumans can't be trusted, so let's kill them all and let Allah sort it out'.
What gives, Bushistas?
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Greg - actually, you can make peace with this sort, but only once they realize they cannot win. Until then the only option is to keep fighting them ... let's hope they have realized this and that peace holds!
/TJ
PS - vegans grow these little pink sores all over their bodies ...
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 11, 2005 11:07 AM (x+5JB)
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YBP,
No thanks. Tofu has been shown to have estrogenic affects. I don't want to grow man boobs.
I'll stick with a nice bloody Texas ribeye.
Posted by: greg at July 11, 2005 01:28 PM (iWcdC)
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It was me that said kill them, and I still do. Hekmatyar is like a mad dog, he's better either killed or left in the hills, but if he is allowed to get close to the power structure, he will make a bid for takeover. I predict that he will make a coup attempt within six months of a US withdrawal from Afghanistan, precipitated upon new unrest, planned and organized by himself. He is the craftiest survivor of the last quarter century of war in Afghanistan, and is more dangerous as an ally than as an enemy, as he has betrayed many who counted on him. Fight him now or fight him later, but we will have to fight him again.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 11, 2005 02:33 PM (0yYS2)
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And he always, always fights against anyone or anything that is pro-western.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 11, 2005 08:12 PM (CBNGy)
That was the question this young lady’s Father-In-Law asked her. Eleven year old Gulsoma is tougher than the culture that traded her as a four year old bride. Please read Kevin Sites’ article on young Gulsoma from Afghanistan and Kevin provides a link where support for this brave young lady can be sent. As you can see from the picture of her to the right she has suffered much.
