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December 04, 2006

Iran Bans Major Websites.

No word yet if The Jawa Report is banned but we sure hope so. The Guardian Via Michelle Malkin.

Iran yesterday shut down access to some of the world's most popular websites. Users were unable to open popular sites including Amazon.com and YouTube following instructions to service providers to filter them.
Similar edicts have been issued against Wikipedia, the internet encyclopaedia, IMDB.com, an online film database, and the New York Times site. Attempts to open the sites are met with a page reading: "The requested page is forbidden."

What kind of does Iran want to suppress.?

Maybe Maryam Namazie's speech to the UN? Or Maybe this one, entitled Save Nazanin & Kobra from Execution? Or Possibly this series about the hanging of a 16 year old girl from â€œcrimes against chastityâ€ Or maybe just the hangings and exposure of their religious propaganda.

Iranâ€™s Mullahs fear the truth almost as much as they fear women.

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December 02, 2006

Darth Sadr

Is Muqtada al Sadr aligning himself with Syria and making a move against Iran? A move which is in the interests of the US, Israel, and the entire Middle East?

That's what the anti-clerical Persian Journal claims. Sadr's anti-Americanism, from this article's perspective, seems more in line with that of Syria. Iran, in this view, is pushing Hezbollah to topple the Lebanon government because the anti-Israeli card is the only thing on which Syria and al Sadr's forces in Iraq will play ball on. And al Sadr is someone who the US can play ball with, much like we do with the Syrians, not because he is pro-American but because of his own self-interest.

If that is the case, then al Sadr may be playing Darth Vader to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Emperor Palpatine. Viewed as the lapdog but who, in fact, cautiously awaits the right time to make a move and take the reigns of leadership in the Middle East.

I'm not convinced, but interesting nonetheless. Especially given allegations that al Sadr's militia is financed, trained, and armed not in Damascus, but in Tehran.

H/T to OpiniPundit for the the pic and the caption.

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1 Anakin only temporarily stopped being a piece of shit just prior to his death.

Posted by: Speaking for the Choir at December 02, 2006 04:09 PM (HSkSw)

2 I must say, judging by that picture, he certainly has a flair for the
dramatic. He looks like evil incarnate. Oh wait ....

Posted by: Oyster at December 02, 2006 04:24 PM (YudAC)

Cheney has a Muslim Twin brother. Both spew hate and death to those who disagree with them. I wonder if al Sadr likes to genetically deformed caged animals for sport?

Posted by: Frank Booth at December 02, 2006 07:53 PM (rIWvK)

4 Fat bastard in a dirty nightgown.

Shoulda taken this pig down on day two of the war. Major tactical error not doing so.

Posted by: Good Lt at December 02, 2006 08:06 PM (D0TMh)

5 Fat is he? How can you tell under his traditional garb? Unless you seen him in a more personal setting?

Posted by: Frank Booth at December 02, 2006 08:20 PM (rIWvK)

6 Because he has a fat face and look at those hotdog fingers, will ya! Mookie is a fat bastard hungry for power, just like Mikey "Fatass" Moore.

Posted by: THANOS at December 02, 2006 08:38 PM (4UFiH)

Thanos have you ever seen the Worlds Strongest Man contest? Want to go up to one of those guys and call them Fat?

Posted by: Frank Booth at December 02, 2006 08:42 PM (rIWvK)

8 I sure would. They may be strong but do they know how to use it? I do, do they? Lifting a truck is simple bullshit, but can you beat a man to the ground in the time it takes him to blink?

I used to think the way you do. All that muscle and being strong means you can kick anyones ass. Thats all a big FAT lie, Frank. I know, been there done that. All that muscle means squat after i take out youre kneecaps or splinter youre throat. Dont believe me, find out for youreself. Take a look around on the web and youll find out the truth about many of these "fit" and "strong" bodybuilders and strongmen. And dont even get me started on how many of them use steroids and other strength enhancers. Do you honestly think that a human body can get to such freakish size and strength without such help? And do you have ay idea what thay help does to their organs and skeletal structure? Id say go ask Mike Mentzer or his brother, but they are both dead. Guess what killed them.

So yea, Mookie is a fat bastard.

Posted by: THANOS at December 02, 2006 09:22 PM (4UFiH)

9 frank booth sounds like my 4 year old son...

Posted by: Max Power at December 02, 2006 10:20 PM (PM8kH)

10 imho:

ahmadinejad = hitler
assad = mussolini
sadr = goering

fuhrer - caliph/mahdi

then again:

maybe sadr thinks he's the mahdi.
and maybe so does ahmadinejad.

bottom-line: imho: iran has the $$$ and is calling most of the shots. have been since 1979.

binladen was anti-house of saud, as was saddam. this made them allies.

ultimately iran wants to restablish a shia caliphate. so does sadr.

assad couldn't care less.

if bush had balls he'd do whatever to takes to oust assad. and kill sadr. and kill ar-megiddo-nutjob.

the chaos afterwards would be a help.

Posted by: reliapundit at December 02, 2006 10:37 PM (oAim9)

11 We had a perfect excuse to kill him early on but we let him go because of political correctnes-- with the predictable results. Now he's twice the threat he was and we can't touch him. White guilt is going to be the death of Western civilization.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 02, 2006 10:41 PM (8e/V4)

12 Warning, non-PC joke approaching...

"Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

He sure looks like he wants some sweet lovin from big mamma gamma rays doesn't he? What an evil looking face he has. Like my ex brother in law.

For the guys who like RPG's like DnD, there was a game 'Call of Cthulu'. In the game there was a horrible alien godlike entity, called Cthulu (go figure) hundreds of feet high, like a satanic Godzilla. If he was awakened he was unkillable, and utterly world ravaging.

There was a question about using nukes on Cthulu, and if they would work? Of course they would! The problem was that since Cthulu couldn't really die, he would just regenerate and reform, and then he would be unkillable, world ravaging, hundreds of feet high, and radioactive to boot!!! Not helpful.

Sometimes these Jihad loving, life hating, human monsters, remind me of the monsters of fiction. They are sort of larger than life, horrible, and unpredictable. They do not seem to be grounded in human understanding, like an alien evil entity.

The next world war is gonna be so ugly. I mean the last one was bad, but still ...

Vader seems cute and fluffy to me at the moment. Like an ewok. You could sometimes sort of laugh at Vader. "Impressive! Most impressive." Hee hee!

I hope he is more like Vader, than Cthulu ...

USA all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 02, 2006 11:02 PM (2OHpj)

13 Thanos
Cool name!

USA all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 02, 2006 11:16 PM (2OHpj)

14 I wonder if al Sadr likes to genetically deformed caged animals for sport?

Huh? We're either missing a verb there or we have a
misspelled adjective, or something. Oh and Frank, my dad can beat
up your dad.

Posted by: Oyster at December 03, 2006 09:58 AM (YudAC)

15 We photoshopped that photo when I was over with the Tatooine Intel Suport element to give him a light saber and everthing else. Our favorite pictuer of Sadr that we "touched up" was one where we put the thought bubble over his head saying "What would Mohammad do for a Klondike bar?"

Posted by: Pete at December 03, 2006 10:09 AM (lmVx8)

16 Thanos

Sorry dude but I do know a lot about health and fitness.

Hey oster my dad is 74 making threats like that means you are fucking asshole. I do apologize for missing the verb but one would think that you are not to thick headed as to not figure out the gist of the story.

Were is that Osama been forgotten AGAIN, anyways? Wasn't he the one who is nearly immobile being hooked to a dialysis machine living in a cave in the middle of no where and with no means of electronic communication? One would think the Patriotic Americans of the likes of you people would have a sticky at the top of this blog stating you grievances about the Emperor Chimps lack of ability to get the actual mastermind of 9/11 terrorist attacks. But no you people go off for days about threats that did not exist before the worst military blunder in the modern age has killed 3k plus US soldiers and countless innocent children. Ever wonder why these people hate America? Probable not, you are more concerned about killing everyone else. Blood lust has become your guide. It will only end in failure.

Good luck trying to make your new boogie man in to darth vador, Cheney has had that dubious honor for a lot longer.

Posted by: Frank Booth at December 03, 2006 12:00 PM (rIWvK)

17 idiot,

shut up.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 03, 2006 12:04 PM (8e/V4)

18 Hey Jebusland Carlos
Man you are a nice person. Shouldn't you be in church?

Posted by: Frank Booth at December 03, 2006 12:20 PM (rIWvK)

19 6 months ago Zarqawi was killed. This however failed to destroy al Queda. Which is according, to Marine Col Devlin's report, now the most important force in the largest province, Anbar, in Iraq.
http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/28/abc-news-exclusive-us-set-to-abandon-anbar/
If al Sadr were to suffer the same fate as Zarqawi would we expect his militia to likewise cease to be a potent force ? Even if his militia was destroyed does anyone know who or what would step into that power vacuum? And destroying his militia would be problematical, insurgents always have the option of simply not fighting any battle that they wish to avoid.

Posted by: John Ryan at December 03, 2006 12:20 PM (TcoRJ)

20 6 months ago Zarqawi was killed. This however failed to destroy al Queda.

Libs complain that we haven't caught Osama (but purely for political point scoring) and then complain that killing Zarqawi wouldn't stop the terror. Libs, make up your effing minds. You want it both ways but you aint gonna get it both ways.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 03, 2006 02:11 PM (8e/V4)

21 He looks kind of scary but we have politicians who are more scary

Posted by: sandpiper at December 03, 2006 11:29 PM (as4nC)

22 You are fucked up Frank. They do not hate us because of 3000 dead U. S. Servicemen. They and pricks like you are proud of it. They don't hate us because of the deaths of innocent children. They commit sucide and grow their children up to die. They teach hate and death to their children at an early age. They are proud to sacrifice their children. They applaud when they send their sons and daughters to die. Death has nothing to do with hatred of us. Those like you only consider the noise from a vocal minority. All countries have these assholes. Muslimes hate us because they are muslims and we are not. You anti American government types will just never get it because you don't wish to. Your claim that the world hates us is pure bullshit. The truth is the world wishes to move here. There is an illegal immigrant in this country for every person in Iraq. Whoa! How's that grab you? Ever ask yourself why? Because the world hates us? right? Get a life!

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 04, 2006 05:45 AM (qWbYR)

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November 29, 2006

Send Me A Letter

Send it by mail
Send it in care of
The well of the 12th Imam.

Robert Spencer says it's a call to Islam.

The blog grandfather calls it the "second warning."

Since no good deed goes unpunished, feel free to give 'ol Mahmoud your response.

I would print mine, but this is a PG-13 blog.

stein hoist: Hot Air.

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1 Anyone else but me notice that Amahdinejad looks like he's rotting from the inside out?

Posted by: Richard H. at November 29, 2006 08:40 PM (/xUS1)

2 ha, ha. I was wondering what was wrong with him. Something weird. I just couldn't figure what it is.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 30, 2006 09:07 PM (0TutP)

3 Personally the statements in Amahdinejad's letter to the U.S. people reminds me of the speech from the Martian leader in Mars Attacks. "We come in peace", yeah right !

Posted by: memphis761 at December 01, 2006 04:32 PM (YdcZ0)

4 AHMASTINKBOMB has a rare cultural malady that requires him to fart backwards to speak. You see to get sufficient wind to blow past his vocal cords he has to engage in subtle, yet evolved abdominal gymnastics that force a stinky rotten egg cloud back up through the length of his digestive system, until it blast up through the esophagus and into the face of the listening public.

His followers do not find anything unusual in all of this, because they have the same problem. Basically it traces back to a region of the Arabian desert. From humble begginings it has spread like a great green greasy cloud to infect a large portion of the third world, and CAIR.

Several cures are being considered. There is a radiation treatment that some feel is to severe, and risky, though it is said to work quickly.

Another teatment requires steady infusions of spinning lead tablets, at a rapid pace. This takes longer, but is said to have a decent chance of reversing the infection, and with more limited side effects.

A third treatment has been considered, and is known for helping weak plants to improve. Basically you talk to the seemingly unintelligent thing until it shows signs of improvement. This method has yet to stop the infection, and instead it seems to encourage growth in known test specimans.

Some suggested treatments include the lead based methed, in combination with the 'talk' method. This will only work if the Liberals don't drag the doctor off in chains.

The Liberal treatment method recomends removing the patients most helpful organs, and then leaving the patient to die. This is called 'cutting, and running' and has seen to prevent the spread of self respect in the medical staff, and to promote distrust in the patient. It also promotes the occurance of secondary infections which can spread to other bodies.

I hope an effective treatment combination is developed quickly. Placebos don't cut it.

USA all the way!

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November 28, 2006

Hezbollah Aids Iraq Deathsquads

Iran's proxy, Hezbollah, is helping to train the death squads of al Sadr's Mahdi Army. File under: no Shiite. The only question is: why send them to Lebanon for training when thousands have already been trained in Iran? more...

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1 Of course in this case we must assume that al Reuters is telling the truth. I am not sure how much more training these death squads need.
Also I thought that the Syrians were allied by tribe,religion, and political party (Ba'ath) with the Sunnis? Why would they be helping train the death squads that are used against the Sunnis ?
In Syria "rogue" elements within the Ba"ath Party meet unpleasant ends.

Posted by: John Ryan at November 28, 2006 12:04 PM (TcoRJ)

2 Surprise, surprise

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at November 28, 2006 03:06 PM (vixLB)

3 Why is this al-Sadr guy still alive? IIRC, I read about him back in '03 and he seemed like someone who needed killing.

Posted by: George guy at November 28, 2006 04:32 PM (eWkFC)

4 George Guy,
From your mouth to General Abi Zaid's ears.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at November 28, 2006 07:34 PM (vixLB)

5 TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION WITH SYRIA, IRAN
â€“ Morning: Brief intro, overview, goals of the day by Pamela Anderson
â€“ Syria: When and how we intend to drop 12 GPS bombs beside Assadâ€™s bedroom
â€“ Power Point presentation, before/after simulation pics for palace
â€“ Assadâ€™s preferred bombing dates, nations he would like to do it
â€“ Which villa he would prefer in Tunisia (virtual tours of real estate listings)
Lunch: California Fusion fare with Pamelaâ€™s comments on morning events
â€“ Afternoon, Iran: Which Iranian rebel groups weâ€™ll be supporting this year, $$ amounts
â€“ Power Point presentation RE the 1-day plan to destroy Iranâ€™s new Russian missiles
â€“ Iranian input about which offshore oil rigs they would like us to seize first
â€“ Invitation to Iranian leaders to aid in massive heroin imports via Afghanistan
â€“ Financial incentives review (Deloitte Touche)
â€“ Discussion, with fruit punch, shortbread, Syrian coffee, Iranian tea, jocular exchanges
â€“ Condi and Georgeâ€™s wrap-up, with brief review of evening events, adjournment.

Posted by: DemocracyRules at November 29, 2006 12:02 AM (+WNUd)

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November 27, 2006

Well, Thank You Very Much, Mr. Helper

According to what I hear on a daily basis, the Iraq Study Group, headed by James Baker, wants us to bring Syria and Iran in to help with Iraq.

Nov. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad predicted the collapse of Israel, the U.S. and Britain, attacking what he called their ``oppressive behavior.''
``The Zionist regime is on a steep downhill towards collapse and disgrace,'' Ahmandinejad told supporters at a rally of Basiji militia forces near Tehran today. In a reference to the U.S. and U.K., he said ``the collapse and crumbling of your devilish rule has started.'' The speech was carried live on state television.

In related news, the ISG wants to bring Russia in to help cure radiation poisoning, Cuba to help with the North Korea situation, and Dr. Rusty Shackleford to help out in case Brangelina have marital problems.

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1 FIRST, DEPOSE ASSAD: email, phone, mail, blog post, asking Israel, US, UK, France, Italy, and/or Canada to: Drop 12 small GPS guided bombs 30 metres from Assadâ€™s bedroom, on his palace grounds. Give him 24 hrs notice before hand. Then drop the 12 bombs, 2 minutes apart, all in exactly the same grassy spot. No injuries, just a very deep hole, spectacularly drilled. Then give Assad 24 hrs to be in Tunisia, where he can live the rest of his life. Something similar worked for Khadaffy (because psychopaths fear only for themselves). Ask big blogs to help. No secrecy needed: publish the date in advance, vote on it in the Knesset, or wherever. Pro Patria.

Posted by: DemocracyRules at November 27, 2006 07:58 PM (+WNUd)

2 The Zionist regime is on a steep downhill towards collapse and disgrace,''

You and whose army, Mr. Ahmcompletlymad.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 27, 2006 08:00 PM (yJKSD)

3 The democrat army.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 27, 2006 08:28 PM (aghaS)

4 James Baker is a clueless jackass and he always has been.

God help us all.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 27, 2006 09:07 PM (bLPT+)

Trying to think of just what the democratic policy is. I can't understand them. I think they don't have a policy. They leave policy to the Republicans. Too adult for them. Democrats are like children in the back seat. Complaining, complaining, complaining. He hit me. She kicked me. Then waiting for the adults to decide what to do about it. Then they complain "that isn't fair". You should have done it this way. I'm going to cut and run away from home. If you spank me I'll tell my teacher. AAAAAAH LEFTURDS.

The football game is starting and I just spilled some Chivas and water on this traveling keyboard. It's nice but when I fall asleep in my big chair strange things happen with it hits the ground.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 27, 2006 09:09 PM (aghaS)

... and ISG wants Greg to stop checking Barney Frank's prostate.

Posted by: Darth Vag at November 27, 2006 09:30 PM (HSkSw)

7 Yeah let's rock the boat of another mideast country!
I am sure that the new rulers will be of the liberal secular type and not islamic fundamentalists.
Well rooster fortunately for you foreign policy is not under the control of the Congress. George Bush will continue to lead us for two more years and he seems to be ready to "stay the course".
My personal view is that at this point neither Iran nor Syria will be able to have much of an impact on Iraq. The insurgency seems to be self supporting and I don't think it has much in the way of top down control. How much actual control over someone like al Sadr has over all elements of his militia is open to debate.

Posted by: John Ryan at November 27, 2006 10:01 PM (TcoRJ)

8 LOL!You guys are killing me tonight.

Posted by: Randman at November 27, 2006 10:01 PM (Sal3J)

9 if iran and syria arent good enough to help iraq, maybe you eager patriots are. US Army recruiters open their doors early. the enlistment age has been raised to 42. i'm sure y'all will be there first thing in the morning.

Go Army.

Posted by: alaikum at November 27, 2006 10:40 PM (NzayJ)

10 John Lyin:

the "insurgency" in Iraq is wholly owned by foreign interrests. Iran and Syria are the main instigators.

Any claim to the contrary is a transparent lie. Lyin' is your personal forte', isn't it?

You cock-sucking faggot. you couldn't tell the truth if you had a gooey mouthfull.

Glarggllmm! What's that? I couldn't understand you? Spit out that muslim cock!

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 27, 2006 10:53 PM (bLPT+)

11 Alaikum:

Al Qaeda and the other pussy terrorists take applicants all day long, every day. Sign up, shit-stain. American soldiers need another target.

You're a dead camel walking. Give us all areason to chuckle, and join the death squad of islam. You'll get your wish of an ignoble death sooner than you think.

Fucking pussy.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 27, 2006 10:57 PM (bLPT+)

12 "Jeff Bargholz"

What kind of a GAY name is that. Jesus, it sounds like that shrill queer name Jeff Gannon.

Say it fast enough and Richard Queer will think you're asking for "gerbils." What's with all you GAY republicans these days?

Posted by: Double Dees at November 27, 2006 11:19 PM (HSkSw)

13 Jeff,

As an American, I have no desire to fight my own countrymen in Iraq or elsewhere. As the right wing blogosphere is so impassioned about supporting our country's occupation of Iraq and vehemently opposed to the Iraqis' defensive campaign against it, wouldn't it be honorable and consistent with your beliefs to enlist? To fail to take action while the Army and Marines need able-bodied personnel shows a certain lack of faith and confidence. Do you believe the Iraq occupation and your fellow countrymen dying there are worthy of your own blood? Is that how the right wing bloggers "support the troops"? From a safe, sheltered distance?

Posted by: salaam-alaikum at November 27, 2006 11:22 PM (NzayJ)

14 Glarggllmm! What's that? I couldn't understand you? Spit out that muslim cock!" -- Geoff Bargirls

Jeff,
Fantasies! Fantasies!
You also sound like an angry self-hating Muslim queer.
Say hi to Mohammed for me. I'm sure you'll give him a reach around at least.
And please, tone it down.
You give real Republicans a bad name.

Posted by: Double Dees at November 27, 2006 11:29 PM (HSkSw)

15 What the h%ll has James Baker been smoking?

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at November 27, 2006 11:37 PM (EdIIN)

16 Saluck Alargecock:

"As the left wing blogosphere is so impassioned about supporting our country's flight from Iraq and vehemently opposed to the Iraqis' defensive campaign against terrorism, wouldn't it be honorable and consistent with your beliefs to enlist in Al qaeda? To fail to take action while the pussies and wimps of islam need able-bodied personnel shows a certain lack of faith and confidence. Do you believe the Iraq terrorism campaign and your fellow jihadis dying there are worthy of your own blood? Is that how the left wing bloggers "support the terrorists"? From a safe, sheltered distance?

You're a fucking little pussy. Say hi to johnny Taliban when you get to Hell, fag-breath.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 28, 2006 12:25 AM (bLPT+)

17 Double dees:

What does dogshit taste like? Does it taste like tiny tits?

Your flat chest is an embarassment. Try not to choke on jihadi shit on your way out the door, cunt-breath.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 28, 2006 12:29 AM (bLPT+)

18 Jeff Boygirls seems to have psychological problems.

Posted by: Double Dees at November 28, 2006 12:32 AM (HSkSw)

19 Sail Em'-Alkaline, I've been over to your little shithole corner of the world several times. Each time I left more and more dead muslim vermin. I'm sure the appreciated the light coating of bacon grease we rub on the GBU-32's.

I look forward to my next visit.

They like to blow themselves up
We like to blow them up

You would think we would get along better...

Posted by: Fargo Levy at November 28, 2006 12:40 AM (PM8kH)

20 Fargo Levy and Jeff Boygirls are sockpuppets.

Posted by: Double Dees at November 28, 2006 12:45 AM (HSkSw)

21 Someday in the future, when historians analyze the Iraq war and ask why America lost, they will conclude: "because they had more bloggers than soldiers".

Posted by: salam-alaikum@cnbc.com at November 28, 2006 12:47 AM (NzayJ)

22 Lost?

muslims killing muslims is a VICTORY for infidels all over the world.

Posted by: Fargo Levy at November 28, 2006 12:57 AM (PM8kH)

23 Salaam: The chickenhawk argument is old and worn out. It's
been thoroughly discredited over and over as a valid argument.
You're a little slow on the uptake, eh?

As to the topic: Whatever happened to putting pressure on terror
sponsors? Now we're asking for their help? Assad and
Ahmadinnerjacket are megalomaniacs. All we're doing is feeding
their bloated egotistical appetites while they continue to hand off
supplies, money and tactical help to terrorist groups. These guys
aren't inclined to help anyone but those who will solidify their
positions. It's a fools errand.

This whole charade would make a great Cox & Forkum cartoon.

Posted by: Oyster at November 28, 2006 05:09 AM (YudAC)

24 What's the Democrat plan?

Last time I looked President Moron was running this war without seeking any advise from either Democrats or Republicans, in congress.

Since he has made a complete mess of it, he will now appear to be "non-partisan", while rejecting the recommendations of the Baker study group, because they don't fit with his neocon strategy for fighting a war.

I guess you guys think that Bush's daddy was a moron, too, since you have no hope for his buddies to make the recommendations, that are acceptable to you.

If neither President Moron or the Iraq study group has the answers, who does?

President Moron has created a mess with only 2 kinds of solutions, left to consider: bad and worse.

Posted by: PuddleDuck at November 28, 2006 07:04 AM (/+RHY)

25 "John Lyin:
the "insurgency" in Iraq is wholly owned by foreign interrests. Iran and Syria are the main instigators.

Any claim to the contrary is a transparent lie. "Lyin' is your personal forte', isn't it?

You cock-sucking faggot. you couldn't tell the truth if you had a gooey mouthfull.

Glarggllmm! What's that? I couldn't understand you? Spit out that muslim cock!
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 27, 2006 10:53 PM"

That's the funniest thing I've heard this morning!!!!

Thanks for the laugh, Jeff (You sure that you and Greyrooster aren't twins, separated at birth?).

180 degrees from the truth, as usual. You're still battin' 1000. Keep up the good work.

Sorry, still LMAO!!!

Posted by: PuddleDuck at November 28, 2006 07:13 AM (6GVBA)

26 My Pet Jawa - doing our part for the war, by blogging our way to victory in Iraq.

Every day that we insult the leftards brings us one day closer to victory.

Thank, everyone for your valiant effort, in this worthy endeavor.

And just remember, if we don't win, it's the leftard's fault and probably the liberal MSM, Charlie Rangle's, Bill Clinton's, Nancy Pelosi's or the PIAPS's (Hilary Clinton) fault.

It sure as hell won't be President Moron's fault.

Posted by: PuddleDuck at November 28, 2006 07:20 AM (3uJnp)

27 "And please, tone it down.
You give real Republicans a bad name.

Posted by: Double Dees at November 27, 2006 11:29"

Oh, shit....like that's possible.

Making Republicans look bad is like trying to fuck up a soup sandwitch.

Can't be done.

I heard that Jeff and Greyrooster are sharing a jar of Vasoline. What's up with that?

Posted by: PuddleDuck at November 28, 2006 07:25 AM (3uJnp)

28 4 post in a row. Who the hell are you having a conversation with?You seem to truly rejoice every time something bad happens in Iraq. Did
you celebrate as well on 9/11 that the big bad evil empire had been
taught a lesson?

Posted by: Randman at November 28, 2006 09:02 AM (Sal3J)

29 No one named Salaam Alaikum is an American.

Piddledick needs more than 4 posts to excuse his lying commie ass. The low life needs attention. That's why he must triple space everything to make his cowardly anti Amercan presence larger than it is.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 28, 2006 09:23 AM (EZW8A)

30
You cock-sucking faggot.

Homophobia? From a Lib? It doesn't shock me. The only racism I've experienced as a hispanic has come from Libs since I became conservative.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 28, 2006 10:09 AM (yJKSD)

31 "Salaam: The chickenhawk argument is old and worn out. It's
been thoroughly discredited over and over as a valid argument.
You're a little slow on the uptake, eh?"

I havent called anyone a chickenhawk. you are entitled to express an opinion on the war whether or not you are in the military. but i am saying that you must not truly believe the Iraq war is a matter of national survival.

if you are an able bodied person born after Nov. 28, 1964, you say the Iraq war is necessary for our civilization to survive against those who wish to establish a global caliphate....

and yet you are not truly participating in the war?

there's a serious credibility gap there.

if blogging is a greater contribution than actually serving in the field, then i suppose i really should believe your arguments.

Posted by: salaam at November 28, 2006 01:26 PM (kGuEk)

32 Hey goat hummping, moongod worshipping piece of camel shit - you don't know crap! You don't know who here has served or hasn't served so fuck you and your muzzie opinion.

Posted by: Max Power at November 28, 2006 02:39 PM (R4293)

33 "Hey goat hummping, moongod worshipping piece of camel shit - you don't
know crap! You don't know who here has served or hasn't served so fuck
you and your muzzie opinion."

but we know that Rusty hasn't served and won't serve. saving his country from the islamic caliphate about to take over the world isn't important enough compared to tenure, a soft chair, and a safe existence as a pro-war blogger.

Posted by: salaam-alaikum at November 28, 2006 03:13 PM (kGuEk)

34 Rusty's brothers serve and his grandfather served and gave his all. So all those men and women who were drafted in WWII? what about them? I have first hand accounts that said voulenteers or draftee did not determine who was good soldier or not. They all fought and died the same. The main factor was if you were short, you tended to survive longer. So all those men and women who worked in factories and farms and were not drafted did not help in the war effort? I really don't think standing Rusty up there so two more good professional career soldiers can waste their time carrying him off the battlefield would be helpful. Best to use the talent he has. If called he would go.

Fuck you Salami in San Jose.

Posted by: Howie at November 28, 2006 03:24 PM (YdcZ0)

35 First of all, whether or not members of his family served is no credit to him, nor does it discredit him if he does not.

Whether he serve after arguing incessantly that the world is facing impending doom in the face of Islamists - if he is in fact eligible for enlistment - now that does affect his credibility.

if he and other pro war advocates truly believed in the gravity of the Islamic threat they would either join the fight themselves or call on their readers to enlist also.

But it's clear Rusty doesn't really believe the Islamists are about to conquer the world, or that Iraq is really worth the blood and resources America is investing in it - otherwise he would be there.

Jimmy Stewart, Jackie Robinson, Ronald Reagan...and countless others did so when the threat was real.

Howie said:

"I really don't think standing Rusty up there so two more good
professional career soldiers can waste their time carrying him off the
battlefield would be helpful. Best to use the talent he has. If called
he would go."

So you imply that talent as a blogger is equal to the sacrifice of an American soldier or Marine?
That's really disgusting.

a million bloggers aren't worth one soldier.

Posted by: salaam-alaikum at November 28, 2006 04:26 PM (kGuEk)

36 salami - let me guess - you're posting between quarters in the jihad...?

Posted by: Max Power at November 28, 2006 04:37 PM (R4293)

37 No asshole it's not equal. But to say that ordinary citizens cannot and should not do what they can to help out and that becuase they are not soliders their contribution is nill is a load of crap. People should do what they can. If they can write they should. If they can send a few bucks to save the soldiers, they should. If they work at a factory making MRE's they should do that.

Your fucked up logic says that citizens have no basis for contributing anything and that is wrong and rather stupid. Soldiers work to support us and our freedoms. We should and do support them. A soldier gives the utimate gift. We should use our talents to help as we can but the idea that the entire nation should run off to the recruiting office tommorrow is just silly. Should all the poeple at boeing stop building planes and run off to Iraq. So, do you know what's best for Rusty or me for that matter. Do you really think that the soldiers want a bunch of less that healthy fatasses getting in their way? No you are just making a cheap attack based on a straw man argument. We have received many thanks for our work including from the military. Stick a sock in it bub. So what are you doing? besides being an asshat.

Posted by: Howie at November 28, 2006 04:40 PM (YdcZ0)

38 He sounds like Puddle to me.

Posted by: Randman at November 28, 2006 04:51 PM (Sal3J)

39 it's your blog. you can delete all the posts you want. still - what a little bitch you are, howie.

Posted by: salaam alaikum at November 28, 2006 07:44 PM (kGuEk)

40 Howie, youre misrepresenting what i say. I said Rusty's and your arguments about the Islamic threat are not credible. Despite what you say, reality and your own behavior indicate that the radical islamic threat is greatly exaggerated.

I never said that civilian contributions are not valuable. and i never called you a chickenhawk or made that argument as you imply.
(youre the expert at making straw man arguments.)

think about all of the civilians who are making great efforts to defend our freedoms from real threats...people like Glenn Greenwald. his contribution is valuable because he's sincere, his arguments are cogent and most importantly they are correct.

Listen Howie, I'm really trying to help the Jawa Report. Try to act as if you believe the Islamists are going to impose Sharia on America any day now, then people might be more open to your suggestions.

Posted by: salaam at November 28, 2006 07:56 PM (kGuEk)

41 PiddleLick:

President Bush is a neocon? Are you saying he's one of dem Jews, or that he used to be a left-wing nut-job?

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 28, 2006 08:48 PM (bLPT+)

42 Salaam Alyingcunt:

Enough with the propaganda war. Pick up a gun and join your terrorist brethren. Advancing islam obviously means the world to you. Go get your 72 raisins.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 28, 2006 08:54 PM (bLPT+)

43 "He sounds like Puddle to me.
Posted by: Randman at November 28, 2006 04:51 PM"

Yes, I go by many names.

Posted by: YourWorstNightmare at November 29, 2006 06:50 AM (nohEa)

44 "Salaam Alyingcunt:

Enough with the propaganda war. Pick up a gun and join your terrorist brethren. Advancing islam obviously means the world to you. Go get your 72 raisins.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 28, 2006 08:54 PM"

And while you are doing that, Jeff will be giving 72 blowjobs. It's his way of getting to "heaven".

Posted by: PuddleDuck at November 29, 2006 06:54 AM (+dUhC)

45 "Yes, I go by many names" = TROLL

"And while you are doing that, Jeff will be giving 72 blowjobs" = HOMO TROLL

Can't wait to see you top youself!

Posted by: Max Power at November 29, 2006 10:32 AM (R4293)

46 Do you think this thread is what Yoko meant when she mentions sufferring the insufferable?

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at November 29, 2006 10:33 AM (2bJJN)

47 No, reading a comment by Piddle or salaam is suffering the insufferable.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 29, 2006 08:19 PM (bLPT+)

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October 31, 2006

Netanyahu Interview: This is War with Iran

Listen to former Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu on the Bill Maher show. As he explains, Isreal's war with Hezbollah is really a war with Iran. A war, in fact, between the U.S. and Iran as well.

Pay attention to how militant Islam is both like and unlike Soviet Communism. Like in their ideological zealotry, unlike in that they put their fundamentalism before their sense of national survival. Scary.

Click to listen to stream. Hat tip: Michael.

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1 Yes, let's bleed for our masters the Israelis.

Posted by: Greg at October 31, 2006 10:05 AM (/+dAV)

2 Greg the Appeaser speaks once again...You need a stiff dose of nationalism dude.

Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at October 31, 2006 10:38 AM (R+h5X)

3 Notayahoo is right. Damn, maybe there is a Zionist conspiracy!

Hrm.. nevermind, just realized that even if Bart Simpson made the observation, it would still be valid.

Posted by: MidnightSun at October 31, 2006 10:50 AM (AiuZK)

4 Jack,
It is my nationalism that requires me to reject Israel's meddling.

Posted by: Greg at October 31, 2006 10:55 AM (/+dAV)

5 Bunch of crybabies!

Posted by: Dan at October 31, 2006 11:31 AM (ILHet)

6 These bastards of the Islamic Republic of Iran (namely the Mullahs and their supporters) MUST NO LONGER BE ALLOWED to wage a war by proxy.
My respect for Secretary Rice notwithstanding, I RESENT the fact that she pressured Israel to stop short of eradicating Hizbullah and negotiate for the release of the two kidnapped soldiers (who haven't yet been released).
In fact, a morally and legally correct respone to the Hizbullah kidnapping of the two Israeli soliders would've been to wipe out the 400,000 strong so-called Revolutionary Guards Corp of the Iranian Mullahs by round-the-clock bombardment. Perhaps even using tactical bunker-busting nukes to take out the mullah nuke and missile facilities and sites.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at October 31, 2006 02:00 PM (vixLB)

7 JSR,
The likes of Greg need a sniff of "Morality and Conscience" more than they need nationalism.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at October 31, 2006 02:02 PM (vixLB)

8
It is my nationalism that requires me to reject Israel's meddling.

But it's not your nationalism that wants America to lose in Iraq, it's your treasonous Liberalism and self-loathing dhimmitude.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 31, 2006 05:01 PM (8e/V4)

9 Greg shows his nationalism:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=23161_Now_Can_We_Question_Their_Patriotism#comments

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 31, 2006 05:11 PM (8e/V4)

10 I don't believe this Greg is even American.
He once called President Roosevelt , "President Rosenfeld"
When he first showed up here, he claimed he was writing from Holland.
Funny because every Dutchman would know how to spell "Roosevelt" as this name is fro Dutch extraction.

This "Greg" is just another Islamist practicing "Taqy'yah" or ritual deceit.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at October 31, 2006 07:01 PM (vixLB)

11 I think he spelled it deliberate wrong, â€œRosenfeldâ€ sounds more Jewish! As in the context of accusing someone of being, Dhimmis!

I watched that Netanyahu interview and I sure hope America will not be fooled by this man if they do, Mel Gibson is going to be right!

Posted by: Dan at November 01, 2006 02:24 AM (ILHet)

12 Grduneh:10" I don't believe this Greg is even American.
He once called President Roosevelt , "President Rosenfeld"
When he first showed up here, he claimed he was writing from Holland."

This is a confabulation. Show me the quote.

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September 23, 2006

Wars and Rumors of Wars with Iran

Who am I to resist rumors of war with Iran?

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1 The Ziocons are desperate. They can feel the noose around their necks. Americans know they have been betrayed â€“ 9-11, a war of lies, unchecked spying, war crimes.

The Ziocons need another incident as a distraction and will manufacture it if need be. They need martial law to fill their internment camps and silence the chatter.

A false flag, dirty bomb operation, blamed on Iran would do the trick. Then they can attack Iran with nukes, after all, â€œthey attacked us with nukes firstâ€.

Posted by: Greg at September 23, 2006 09:59 AM (PnoGS)

2 Wow Greg, all you need is the alien abduction conspiracy and a few Haliburton rumors and you can be a full fledged moonbat. Congrats.

Posted by: JC at September 23, 2006 10:03 AM (1ISxl)

3 Let's roll! btw: Greg, your momma called and says for you to go home.

Posted by: n.a. palm at September 23, 2006 10:04 AM (XqWxm)

4 How many nukes can or does it carry? Poor little Imamadminime. Can Chavez the Venezuelan Potbellied Piggy be enticed to go visit his Iranian bum chum so the Eisenhower Strike Group can kill two short little inferiority complexed, overcompensating terrorists that need to have their flesh melted off by radiation therapy?

Posted by: Stan the Infidel in Indonesia at September 23, 2006 10:08 AM (Uf1Rk)

5 I hope so. Only this time let us not send in any ground forces to help the enemy rebuild. Fuck em.

Greg: You're getting sicker and sicker. You need help.

Posted by: greyrooster at September 23, 2006 10:58 AM (dRys2)

6 Greg is a sockpuppet from Kos.

Posted by: Darth Vag at September 23, 2006 11:18 AM (HSkSw)

7 Time to get down and get this shit over with. Time to bitch slap Iran and let these Islamoturds understand not to mess with us. Who cares about Iranians anyway. The world will be a better place without them. Nothing but trouble year after year. An example worth doing for the overall good of mankind.
OUTLAW ISLAM.

Posted by: greyrooster at September 23, 2006 11:41 AM (dRys2)

8 This post was actually funny though. I'd love to sneak into greg's house and rummage through his crap while he's not home; that'd be one for the books! I bet he's got one of those UFO poster like Mulder had in the X-Files captioned I want to believe.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 23, 2006 12:01 PM (v3I+x)

9 loose lips sink credibilities.

Posted by: actus at September 23, 2006 12:53 PM (NV0dI)

10 Greg,

So what? We're gonna have to fight the Iranians sometime, and it might as well be on our terms.

But tell me, pray tell, just where oh where do you come up with all these theories? Ziocons? Is that some race from your weekly D&D game? Internment camps? Well... that part pisses me off because it's a state secret and now that you are blabbing about it, well... we'll have to do something about that then, won't we? Who told you about the camps? You listening in to Dreamland radio again?

Greg... you are just too funny. I'd really like to respond to you in detail, but I absolutely refuse to attack the handicapped.

Respects,

Gwedd

Posted by: Gwedd at September 23, 2006 02:41 PM (BRrkw)

11 I think Greg is on George Soros' payroll in charge of rumor and conspiracy dissemination. (How's that for a conspiracy theory, Greg.)

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at September 23, 2006 04:02 PM (fIUHw)

12 Garduneh Mehr is already in Iran doing reconnaissance with a team of Canadian Special Forces.

Posted by: Darth Vag at September 23, 2006 04:10 PM (HSkSw)

13 No, no. Mehr wants us to kill all the Arabs and leave Iran alone.

Posted by: greyrooster at September 23, 2006 11:03 PM (uACpf)

14 Gwedd, these idiots have been working on this crap for years, but most
of it comes from old plot lines from <i>Star Trek</i> and
the <i>X-Files</i>.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 24, 2006 09:09 AM (v3I+x)

15 The coalition is already at war on two fronts. So yeah Special Forces is one way to go. A lot of folks donâ€™t get the fact that Iran thinks that they can take over the world with their oil and nukes. Maybe the Pajama Media could step up on this one.

Posted by: Peter S at September 24, 2006 09:51 AM (mJpNo)

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September 22, 2006

Iran Will Stone Adulteress to Death

Iran is set to stone to death a young woman for the crime of adultery. Muslims constantly tell me that they believe Jesus is a prophet. Are we talking about the same Jesus here?

John 8: 3-11

And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Michell Malkin puts out an urgent request to help Save Malak Ghorbany.

Her execution has been stayed, for now, thank God, but adultery is still a capital offense in Iran.

The disgusting part of what many human rights groups are urging is that Iran stop execution by stoning.

The real problem is not stoning, but the death sentence for adultery!

And many Lefties want to compare fundamentalist Christians with the mad Mullahs of Iran. Are they out of their frigging minds?

If Monica Lewinsky was Persian, she'd be dead.

John 11:35:

Jesus wept.

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1 Go America! Jesus was writing the names of the scribes and pharisees who were adulterers and thats why they were leaving one at a time

Posted by: canuck at September 22, 2006 04:33 PM (kmwDH)

2 Uh, any proof of that, canuck?

Posted by: Editor at September 22, 2006 04:40 PM (adpJH)

3 Amen Rusty

Posted by: Howie at September 22, 2006 04:42 PM (D3+20)

4 This of course is yet another demonstration of what a great man Jesus was. If only most of the Christians in the world actually practiced what Jesus taught. Most Christians today pray to Jesus but their actions scream of Old Testament theology.

Posted by: Rich at September 22, 2006 05:00 PM (89Rw1)

5 I highly recommend the book "I Don't Have Enough Faith To Be An Athiest". In it, the authors speak of Islam's paradox of calling Jesus a prophet. Yet, Jesus claimed to be the son of God. Being that they believe that prophets are virtuous men who tell the truth, how do they reconcile that point? Using their own faith against them, Jesus was someone who told the truth and was the Son of God. Therefore, anything and everything about Islam that differs from Christianity is a fairy tale.

Posted by: slug at September 22, 2006 05:06 PM (JQ+iP)

6 Yet another example of religious beliefs evolving from the barbaric to more lenient views. Nothing against my Jewish brethren here; I was raised Protestant, but all Christians have the Old Testament included in our Book. In the days of Moses, what we view as barbaric today was required for survival. God was very harsh on his Chosen People; much like "tough love" parents on their own children, because (I think) He wanted them to become the best that they could be. The teachings of Christ were just a normal evolution of civilization (at the risk of minimalizing things immensely).

However, we are dealing with Old Testament enemies here. And, I am afraid, we are going to have to resort to Old Testament Ass-Whuppin's to survive this ordeal. The very idea of stoning makes me sick to my stomach. OH, wait! They must have evolved just a tad, because they actually allow the women to be buried deeper than the men, so their breasts won't be exposed to the freaking ROCKS they are throwing at them.

Excuse me, I have to go puke.

Posted by: EricInTexas at September 22, 2006 05:20 PM (daSmG)

7 So, let me ask you all then: Just what sort of punishment SHOULD be assigned to adultery? You want to remove capital punishment from the list. fair enough, but then what?

In many states, Adultery is not a crime. Where I live, it's been completely decriminalized, and cannot even be admitted into divorce court as a primary reason for divorce!

Adultery destroys as many families as alcoholism or drug abuse. It is, in fact, more insidious, because it is invasive of marriage. It attacks the very core belief of marriage: trust. When that particular bond is broken, the damge can be as great as that from murder or suicide, and the aggreived spouse's greif as great as that resulting from death. families are destroyed, and children are left to ponder just what happened, because it's awfully hard to explain those emotions to a small child, or even an older one.

And what sort of example is adultery to a developing child, especially an adolescent?

Adultery is a terrible crime, which cuts a wide swath of destruction and leaves many innocents in it's wake.

There has to be some sort of strong punishment for adultery, if for no other reason than to protect society.

Respects,

Gwedd

Posted by: Gwedd at September 22, 2006 05:33 PM (4eBEc)

8 I expect to be corrected here but, coming from a very devout family I know I'm not far off.

Wouldn't reverting back to Old Testament ways simply because we face a difficult enemy be in direct contradiction of Christ's teachings? His words were very plain in the New Testament and I'm fairly certain there was nothing about "Ass-Whuppin'" or anything similar in His teachings.

In fact, this seems to be precisely what the Pope was saying about the Muslim faith. My impression was he was comparing a violent Muslim approach to the more peaceful Christ-like approach to the world.

I guess my question is, do all the Christians here feel comfortable with ignoring the teachings of Christ for the purpose of battling an enemy? Isn't this the kind of test of your faith that's discussed throughout the New Testament and especially in the Revelation of John?

Posted by: Rich at September 22, 2006 05:39 PM (89Rw1)

9 Gwedd, your argument is so easily torn to shreds it's not worth the typing. Especially since you don't even detail what "some sort of strong punishment" is.

Posted by: Editor at September 22, 2006 05:43 PM (adpJH)

10 Rich, I agree with this in theory. However, we are dealing with an enemy that would love nothing more than for us to "turn the other cheek". It is about survival now. Simple as that.

We can all pray for fogiveness once we are not afraid of suicide bombers or airliners being flown into our buildings in the name of "Allah, the Fucking Merciful"...

Posted by: EricInTexas at September 22, 2006 05:46 PM (daSmG)

11 Rich, please point out in the NT where is directs Christians not to wage war. Then maybe we'll start the debate.

Posted by: Editor at September 22, 2006 05:46 PM (adpJH)

12 Rich,

The commandent doesn't say "Thou shalt not kill". It says "Thou shalt not murder". God expects you to protect your own life, even if it means taking another.

Even Jesus demanded that those around him defend their own lives. Luke 23:36 says plainly "Then said he unto them, but now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and like wise his scrip; and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."

Peter carried a sword at Gesthamane, and likely many of Jesus' followers did as well, becuase the Temple Guards who came for Jesus were backed up by a Cohort of Roman soldiers. That's a 600-man unit. That's a pretty large force to send for one man, unless there was a rather large following about him and the authorities anticipated trouble.

Responding to evil, especially that of a bilblical mindset, requires an appropriate response. I refuse to meet God and have to 'splain to Him that I squandered His most precious gift to me of life by allowing some dress-wearing, towel-headed introverted mysoginist to butcher me like some indolent sheep.

Respects,

Gwedd

Posted by: Gwedd at September 22, 2006 05:56 PM (4eBEc)

13 unless of course you are tied up with a knife to your throat and told to "convert or die". Then you die. In that instance, surrendering would be to convert - even falsly.

And please don't take my words out of context and apply them to Centanni.

Posted by: Editor at September 22, 2006 06:05 PM (adpJH)

14 Dear Editor,

Okay then, just what sort of punishment should adultery deserve? Should it be punished at all? By strong punishment, I was considering 2-4 years in jail and a heavy fine. Massachusetts still allows (IIRC) a 2-year jail sentence and a $10,000 fine for each count. Maine sees it as of no consequence. A big gap there. The Feds leave it up to the staes, although the military still considers it a seperate punishable offense and can impose stiff penalties for each count.

The point is this: We have criminalized all sorts of anti-social behaviour, from being drunk in public, to drug use, to smoking in non-designated areas, to appearing top-less in public. Yet adultery gets, in most areas, a free pass. My question is why?

Certainly capital punishment, especially stoning, is way out of proportion here. I have no truck with you on that part, and agree with all of your article above. I just see a sort of lax attitude about something with potentially serious effects upon society. That's all. Sorry if my previous posting wasn't up to your standards. I'll try and do better.

Respects,

Gwedd

Posted by: Gwedd at September 22, 2006 06:05 PM (4eBEc)

15 Gwedd I can answer that question with my "Lefty Talking Point Generator™":

Stop being such a buzz kill man, If after a few bongs some babes want to smoke my peace pipe, who am I to stop them? marriage is a Christian Taliban ideology pushed on the people by the Government, man, I should be able to spread my wild seed anywhere, as long as that chick has her vagina scraped and vacuumed afterwards, overpopulation is bad for the environment, and can cause baby seals to die.

There never will be a criminal penalty for Adultery, after all the very institution of marriage is under attack.

Posted by: davec at September 22, 2006 06:23 PM (QkWqQ)

16 God could'nt have said it better than that.....Go Jesus!!
prove to the blind world who's really in power!!

Posted by: one take jake at September 22, 2006 06:29 PM (Lr9aA)

17 Gwedd, now you're talking a little more sane like. At first, it wasn't obvious if you were coming from a sincere disdain of adultery or a psychotic muslim disdain.

What should the punishment be?

First, define adultery. Is casual conversation, making a strong connection with someone of the opposite sex and repeatedly meeting up for that adultery? Is looking at porn adultery? Well, let's see what Jesus says:

"You have heard that it is said, 'You shall not commit adultery'; but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already commited adultery with her in his heart.'"

What's the punishment for that? Is every man in American gonna go to jail?

Posted by: Editor at September 22, 2006 06:34 PM (adpJH)

18 EricInTexas, I think what you said clearly demonstrates the "test" concept. A test of your faith is not supposed to be easy. However, at the same time addressing Gwedd's point, I'm not arguing that Christians should be "turning the other cheek" or failing to defend themselves.

Even from the verse of Luke Gwedd cited, it's obviously talking about defense of yourself or your property from an aggressor. I'm fairly certain the concept of preemptive self defense is not covered in the Bible, not that I remember at least, I'm of course open to being corrected.

While I know many Christians in the world do not consider his word to be the authority, even Pope John Paul II said the concept of preemptive self defense is not a just war in the eyes of the church. At the very least his word must carry some weight.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting though. Does most everyone here agree that many of the tactics encouraged on this site are sins and simply believe "We can all pray for fogiveness once we are not afraid of suicide bombers..."? To put it bluntly, I was always taught you can't use the Christian concept of forgiveness as a "get out of jail free card." In other words, if you pursue this course knowing full well it's implications within your faith, you're in a whole different ball field from a "standard" sin.

btw, Editor, I wasn't arguing that the NT directs Christians not to wage war. Quite honestly, I'm not arguing any point in particular. I'm merely curious about and, exploring out loud, the religious implications of some of the more extreme points of view being espoused on this site.

Posted by: Rich at September 22, 2006 06:46 PM (89Rw1)

19 Which tactics? I certainly don't subscribe to the "get out of jail" method. If it's a sin, it's a sin and shouldn't be done for any purpose at all. What tactics are you suggesting are sins?

Posted by: Editor at September 22, 2006 06:53 PM (adpJH)

20 Editor, well, the complete annihilation of all Muslims to start. I'm not saying you've said that but it does seem to be a popular position amongst people on this site who also call themselves Christians.

I'd imagine any kind of indiscriminate warfare while still falling well short of genocide would be a sin.

Posted by: Rich at September 22, 2006 07:07 PM (89Rw1)

21 Rusty. Dale gribble. Jesus was not doodling on the ground.

Posted by: canuck at September 22, 2006 07:10 PM (kmwDH)

22 Geezzs Rich. What do you want to do get tied up, watch your wife rapped, then have your head cut off with a dull blade?

If you, your family, or friends are attacked, force is athorized. Apply as much force as you need to win. Then tie them up, even the dead ones. That's SOP.

I suggest living a good life, saying your prayers, and keeping your weapons clean, and ammo dry. It does't hurt to work out.

Posted by: Leatherneck at September 22, 2006 07:17 PM (D2g/j)

23 I thought you are a man of science and reason, Dr. Shackleford.

There is no scientific proof that god exists.

And I don't have faith in faeries and trolls, why should I have faith in god?

Posted by: Darth Vag at September 22, 2006 07:22 PM (HSkSw)

24 Darth:
Did he ask you to have faith in God? or did he do a comparison of Jesus as a prophet and what he said in the Christian Bible?

Iran is set to stone to death a young woman for the crime of adultery. Muslims constantly tell me that they believe Jesus is a prophet. Are we talking about the same Jesus here?

I guess some people actually read the article?

Posted by: davec at September 22, 2006 07:30 PM (QkWqQ)

25 Leatherneck, you misunderstood, I'm not advocating not defending ourselves. No where in this or any other discussion have I said anything but we should defend ourselves.

"If you, your family, or friends are attacked, force is athorized. Apply as much force as you need to win. Then tie them up, even the dead ones. That's SOP."

That's something I completely agree with but has little to do with the discussion here. Here I was talking about preemptive self-defense and the most extreme "defensive" tactics like genocide and their religious implications.

"I suggest living a good life, saying your prayers, and keeping your weapons clean, and ammo dry. It does't hurt to work out."

I definitely try to live a good life, I skip the prayers though, it's just not for me. As for weapons, I doubt I could fight WWIII from here but I'm well armed and everything is well maintained. Maintaining my property is plenty of a workout.

Posted by: Rich at September 22, 2006 07:48 PM (89Rw1)

26 As an expert in adultry let's get something straight. There is sex outside of marriage as in two single people bumping uglies on a saturday night while listening to Led Zepplin.

Then there is a married man or woman engaging in sex with someone other than their spouse.

In civilized countries, two people unattached getting it on is considered healthy and normal as long as the relationship is as such. In no society I know of is cheating on your spouse considered acceptable behavior.

But you still don't kill the cheater over it. You ostracise them from your social group ie family, clique etc. You don't friggin stone them to death. And when children are involved, you handle it with dignity regardless of how undignified the situation really is.

Nobody dies.

Posted by: SeeMonk at September 22, 2006 07:49 PM (n4VvM)

27 Darth,

Science and Religion are not mutually exclusive. God created the Universe and all things in it, including yourself. Science is simply mankind's attempt to try and understand how God did it.

Somethings, however, are beyond our simple minds. Can you scientifically prove that love exists? Love is not physical, although certain effects of it may be. We cannot SEE love. We cannot TOUCH love. We cannot TASTE love, and yet there it is. We can deduce it's existence because of it's effects upon our physical environment. We recognize love's presence through it's results. God is the same.

As for Fairies and Trolls and other such creatures, whose to say they don't exist? Just because you haven't seen one doesn't mean they aren't around..... there was a rather large whoops! When Neanderthal was discovered. Same thing with Dinosaurs. No one believed Vikings actually made it to America until a few decades ago when the settlement was discovered. Whoops.

Sit back and enjoy the ride. It's too darned John Calvinist like to put everything into a box labled SCIENCE and say "THERE! That's ALL THERE IS!".

Come to think of it, there are some rather unsettling similarities between certain science supporters and certain middle-eastern religious extremists.......

Respects,

Gwedd

Posted by: Gwedd at September 22, 2006 08:05 PM (4eBEc)

28 So if Adultry is so bad how come they don't stone the men? The women being the "weaker" sex should be forgiven eh? That is unless you view them as evil in comparison to men. Men should not be given the pass as in a society that subjucates women like this one the men are the responsible party.

News flash. people screw. It happens.

Posted by: Howie at September 22, 2006 08:21 PM (D3+20)

29 One other thought. Matbe if she wasn't forced marry gross little Sahib Needleprick she would be needing Big Jim Slade now would she?

Posted by: Howie at September 22, 2006 08:24 PM (D3+20)

30 Rich,

Let us take Iraq for example. I wish we were not there; However, after 12 years of UN B.S. Bush took the country in. Iraq supported Hamas with $20,000.00 per Jewish bus. There are other examples, but I will leave it at that.

So, we pre-blasted their ass. You would think, the other moon god worshippers in the area would lie low. Hardly.

War has been declared. These last few days I think the world has awoke. They want the Pope dead, they have declared war, (again), on Christians. That's me.

I ask you, why should we wait any longer. I realize we are suppose to be the good guys, but screw it, let them have what they asked for.

Posted by: Leatherneck at September 22, 2006 09:04 PM (D2g/j)

31 Leatherneck, I pretty much completely agree with you on Iraq. My views on Iraq are complicated and while they do include the administration being completely incompetent my view does boil down to "It was a good and necessary thing to do."

I think what I was trying to discuss here may be a bit too much theology for this site and so, off topic. I was trying to be careful with my wording and not cite Iraq specifically because I was curious about the ideas Iraq represents as it relates to Christian dogma and not Iraq specifically.

The concept of a preemptive strike doesn't strike me as wrong however, I'm not a Christian. You see what I'm getting at?

Posted by: Rich at September 22, 2006 09:26 PM (89Rw1)

32 davec,
you are such a damn drama queen.
why should i compare a fictional christian character to a murderer and pedophile who actually existed?
should i compare paul bunyan to hitler?

Posted by: Darth Vag at September 22, 2006 09:27 PM (HSkSw)

33 Rich, most of the people here, and I only know of one or two, who have advocated genocide, do not claim to be Christians. And many people who say things on the internet are just trying to get a reaction, and don't actually intend to commit genocide, and I doubt whether any here would indiscriminately kill, but that is just my opinion, as I don't know anyone personally. As for the Christian response to Islam, may I refer you to 640 AD when riders came out of the Arabian desert and attacked unmercifully Christians in the Middle East, No. Africa, Anatolia and Persia. Within 50 years, Christian Spain had been conquered, Christian France was assailed, Christians in Germany, Sicily, Italy, Greece and any Christian island or coastline in the Mediterranean were subject to constant attack. This went on for 400 years, until Christianity finally fought back in the Crusades. Christianity has already given enough blood to Islam. These people who desire to return the World to the 7th C. need to be stopped at all costs. Even it if takes war. That is my opinion.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 22, 2006 09:28 PM (rUyw4)

34 Gwedd,
I never said god does not exist.
I just said there is no scientific proof. I implied that to accept god then requires faith. but why have faith in something that there is no evidence for?
there is evidence for one person's love for another, even if you cannot see that love.
but there is no evidence for god, faeries or trolls.
i personally think that jesus was a fictional character though.

Posted by: Darth Vag at September 22, 2006 09:42 PM (HSkSw)

35 Uh, Darth, Jesus existed, therefore he is not a fictional character, no matter if you believe him to be the Son of God. Dave's point was well said and well made. And I'm not trying to be obtuse.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 22, 2006 09:42 PM (rUyw4)

36 jesusland joe,
you are right, but the correct verb tense is "exists".
jesus exists and is a simonizer is east Los Angeles. He speaks espanol.
at least the jesus i know.

Posted by: Darth Vag at September 22, 2006 09:45 PM (HSkSw)

37 The fact that Muslims claim to recognize Jesus as a prophet isn't really very useful in arguing with them. Muslims believe that Jesus (and all previous prophets) preached essentially the same doctrines as Muhammad, but that the Christian (and Jewish) scriptures distort what Jesus and the other prophets said. Thus anything in the New Testament which conflicts with the teachings of Muhammad is simply taken as an example of this "distortion".

So in that sense, no, they are NOT "talking about the same Jesus here". They claim to be speaking about the same character, but in fact they have a very different view of what he said, and they certainly don't consider the Christian Bible an authoritative source.

Posted by: Infidel753 at September 22, 2006 09:50 PM (tqh0l)

38 Wrong again, Darth. The man, the historical Jesus, existed. There is plenty of evidence to support this claim. Don't understand why you don't get this.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 22, 2006 10:46 PM (rUyw4)

39 JJ, I agree the people advocating the more extreme measures such as genocide are likely trying to take the most extreme stance possible while not actually believing it. I can however only respond to what people say. Responding to what I think they actually mean may not work out.

As for the Christian response to Islam, now you're getting into an interesting area. I'm aware of the history between the two especially as it pertains to the run-up to the various crusades. While the initial motivation for the first crusade was pure self-defense, I hope you're not arguing that the Christian's hands were clean in the ensuing *13* crusades.

"Christianity has already given enough blood to Islam. These people who desire to return the World to the 7th C. need to be stopped at all costs. Even it if takes war."

Now, back to my original point/question. The quote of yours above, while understandable, doesn't strike me as inline with Christ's teachings. This touches on the exact question I've been driving at. How do you, as a Christian, make that position fit with Jesus' teachings?

I mean, not to sound condescending or overly simplistic but WWJD?

Posted by: Rich at September 22, 2006 10:52 PM (89Rw1)

40 hey you there at AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL i though you guys opposed the death penalty why are you not objecting to the iranian goverment over this barbaric incedent? and what about the UN and its so called human rights commity?

Posted by: sandpiper at September 22, 2006 11:04 PM (YIXxO)

41 Rich, this is how I see it. Jesus said, "turn the other cheek". That cheek has been turned. Jesus said, "walk seven time seven times in the other man's shoes". That has been done. About the only other option is to lay down and die. Jesus didn't say to do that.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 22, 2006 11:14 PM (rUyw4)

42 sandpiper, In the defense of Amnesty International, they have spoken out quite a lot against the Iranian government and their practices. I don't see anything about this specific case but, it would just fall on deaf ears considering there was a nearly identical case in Iran this year with the same result (and Amnesty did speak out on that one).

Just a note, I am pro-death penalty however, I respect the idea of Amnesty International and most of the work they do.

The UN however is a joke when it comes to human rights. They obviously don't care outside of politics. Rawanda was the turning point and their lack of meaningful action in Sudan shows the UN couldn't care less about human rights. Don't even get me started on the makeup of their various "human rights commisions."

Posted by: Rich at September 22, 2006 11:17 PM (89Rw1)

43 >>>How do you, as a Christian, make that position fit with Jesus' teachings?

Rich,

I'm the other christian on this blog. It's basically just JJ and me. The concept of "just war" and Jesus's teachings do not contradict, so the premise of your question-- that they do contradict-- is moot.

"Turning the other cheek" does not apply to war because war is a communal endeavor, while "turning the other cheek" is personal. In other words, you cannot turn the other cheek for others who have been slapped (which is what you would have to do if the notion applied to war), you can only turn the other cheek for yourself. In war, your christian duty is to defend the oppressed from the oppressor, even using violence. That's just war.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at September 22, 2006 11:22 PM (8e/V4)

44 Thank you, Carlos, as I am hardly a good defender of the faith.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 22, 2006 11:44 PM (rUyw4)

45 Jesusland Carlos, if you look at some of my earlier comments in this discussion I completely understand the concept of a "just war." I wasn't disputing that.

I'll repeat/rephrase some of my earlier questions and comments just to get it all in one place:

I don't believe a preemptive action would be considered a just war. Pope John Paul II said exactly that. Yes I realize you may not recognize his authority but, his opinion surely must carry some weight.

Would a largely indiscriminate action be justifiable? Yes, I understand war is messy but, seeing people advocating a war against all Muslims (or a moderately large percentage) is obviously indiscriminate.

Are all tactics in a just war also just? Even the most extreme such as genocide or something just short of that?

I may have pulled the two wrong people into my public train of thought. While I disagree with you and JJ on many topics I don't think you two hold some of the more extreme points of view I was interested in exploring. And while you two may be the only "real" Christians on here you are hardly the only ones that claim to be.

Posted by: Rich at September 22, 2006 11:54 PM (89Rw1)

46 JJ, I'm not asking you to defend your faith. I hope you don't feel I'm attacking you or your faith. I'm simply exploring the interaction of your faith and some of the challenges facing us today.

I've actually been trying quite hard to be respectful while doing my exploring. I apologize if you feel under attack. While I've been guilty of it in the past, that's not my intent this time.

Posted by: Rich at September 22, 2006 11:59 PM (89Rw1)

47 Jesusland Joe: Wrong again, Darth. The man, the historical Jesus, existed. There is plenty of evidence to support this claim. Don't understand why you don't get this.

The man existed. The man had the power.

Jesusland Joe: Don't understand why you don't get this.

Perhaps it is because I am an infidel secular JOOOOOO.

Posted by: Darth Vag at September 23, 2006 12:20 AM (HSkSw)

48 Jesusland "holier than thou art" Joe: About the only other option is to lay down and die. Jesus didn't say to do that.

Jesus did not say to kill either. Jesus did not say to carpet bomb jihadis or pummel them with AC-130 gunships. Jesus did not say to waterboard your enemy.

You are such a good Christian. A very good Christian.

Posted by: Darth Vag at September 23, 2006 12:25 AM (HSkSw)

49 JJ and JC, you're not the only Christians on this blog. I'm right here too!! Let me address a couple of things.

The problem in Iran is their description of adultery includes women who have been raped and cannot produce 4 men of good character as witnesses to the crime committed. As we seen in the past, this is the common reason why most women in places like Iran and Pakistan are executed for adultery. They haven't actually committed adultery but have been raped. And then there's the problem of these women being killed by their families in honor killings because they have brought shame to their families.

Jesus was writing on the ground (Greek word grapho was used in the original text which can mean to write or figuratively to describe). We are not told what He was writing.

As to whether Jesus is the same Jesus for Muslims, Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55 Number 640 says that when Muhammad went on his night of ascension, when he reached the second heaven he saw John the Baptist and Jesus and they greeted Muhammad saying "Welcome, O Pious Brother and Pious Prophet?" Pious doesn't mean pedophile, murderer, thief, etc. so it can't be the same Jesus. Muhammad also said that he met Jesus after Jesus came out of the bathroom in the second heaven and Jesus was embarrassed.It's just so laughable. And since Muslims believe that Allah substituted someone else for Jesus on the cross (Quran An-Nisa 4:157)and brought Jesus up unto himself, doesn't that mean that Allah's "divine" intervention is responsible for the world's largest religion?

Posted by: Stan the Infidel in Indonesia at September 23, 2006 04:08 AM (iBKhk)

50 Darth! If there was scientific evidence of God's existence, then everybody and their grandmother would be believing in Him, and there is only so much room in heaven! In heaven we are finally free from overcrowding! ;-)

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at September 23, 2006 10:31 AM (Dd86v)

51 Rish: Did Jesus kiss the money changers in the temple?

I believe you can be saved. Try a big shot of testosterone.

Is the women subject in this post a muslim. And would she have more little muslims who would grow up to hate us?
Bomp, bomp, bomp. Another one bites the dust.
This is war. Time to leave the goodie, goodie humanitarian feelings behind and win the war.
Did we feel sorry for the moderate Germans when we bombed their cities and civilians? Same for the Japanese.
First you win. Then you can feel quilty if you so please.

Posted by: greyrooster at September 23, 2006 11:19 AM (dRys2)

52 Larry wrote: Darth! If there was scientific evidence of God's existence, then everybody and their grandmother would be believing in Him, and there is only so much room in heaven! In heaven we are finally free from overcrowding! ;-)

There is no definite scientific evidence that human activity is causing global warming, yet everybody and their grandmother seems to be believing in that tripe.

There is no evidence that the US caused 9/11, yet there is a whole legion of sockpuppets like Greg who believe it.

Everyone, except those who accept reason, has got religion. Greg, Al Gore and Billy Graham are all men of faith.

Posted by: Darth Vag at September 23, 2006 11:24 AM (HSkSw)

53 greyrooster, yeah, yeah, I know, in your world a man's testosterone level is directly inverse of the amount of thinking he does. By your logic you must have heretofore unheard of testosterone levels.

Posted by: Rich at September 23, 2006 10:02 PM (89Rw1)

54 Notice to all good looking, young, long legged, blond, well built adultresses.
E-mail Greyrooster

Posted by: greyrooster at September 23, 2006 11:28 PM (uACpf)

55 whatever .....

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at September 24, 2006 09:40 AM (Dd86v)

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September 05, 2006

Iran Purging Liberal Academics

It looks like Ahmadinejad is attempting to start his own cultural revolution by purging the universities of liberals and secularists. And, like Mao's culurual revolution, the madman of Tehran wishes the purges to come from the bottom up.

He's encouraging students to purge the universities. It may seem infeasible, given the anti-regime stance of students, but the right mix of top down pressure and looking the other way when "extremists" "go too far" has been known to get results in the past.

This is worrisome because Iran's universities are the locus of opposition to Khomeinism, sharia, and religious conservatism. When we hear, as we do so often, that the Iranian street despises the ruling Mullahs, it is almost always university students giving those sentiments voice.

If Ahmadinejad succeeds in purging the universities, then the last best hope for peaceful regime change in Iran will have been crushed.

AP:

Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called Tuesday for a purge of liberal and secular teachers from the country's universities, urging students to return to 1980s-style radicalism.
The president, in his role as head of the country's Council of Cultural Revolution, does have the authority to make such changes. But his comments Tuesday seemed designed more to encourage hard-line students to begin a pressure campaign on their own, thus forcing universities to oust the teachers.
Iran retired dozens of liberal university professors and teachers earlier this year. And last November, Ahmadinejad's administration for the first time named a cleric to head the country's oldest institution of higher education, Tehran University, despite protests by students.

UPDATE: PBS reporter ordered out of Iran. Given no reason, but she wanted to do an interview with the parents of student protester tortured and murdered in an Iranian prison.

HT: Howie

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1 PBS NPR reporter Margrette Warner expelled from Iran too.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/iran/

Posted by: Howie at September 05, 2006 09:07 AM (D3+20)

2 More jihad is on the way. It is probably best to go ahead and nuke Iran right now and get it over with. A few years from now suicide bombers armed with nuclear weapons will return the World to pre-modern status if we do not. And this is a prediction I feel very comfortable in making. All of us, liberal and conservative, Leftist, Rightest, whatever, will regret not taking action against Iran.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 05, 2006 09:18 AM (rUyw4)

3 A booklet entitled â€œAl-Jihadâ€ (holy war) was found in the possession of Hezbollah operatives during the latest conflict in Lebanon and is most likely being used by other terrorists preparing for the next attack against us.
The booklet, presents the Islamic teachings of Khamenei, an ideology based on jihad and shahada...
Be sure to read it in The Terrorist's Nightmare blog and post your comments here.

Posted by: Joe at September 05, 2006 09:20 AM (juHES)

4 I'm unsure of the dynamic that keeps the Mullocracy and Ahmadingleberry in power in Iran, because the Iranian people, by and large, absolutely hate them. I really don't think it would take much on the part of the West to topple that regime, and I can't for the life of me understand why we don't just decapitate the leadership and let the people have their country back. I've known many Iranians over the years, and they are great folks. Not only that, but they have in living memory a secular governmental model and a relatively free society. One of my Iranian friends was a pilot in the Shah's air force, and left when the Islamotards took over. You ought to hear him talk about the Islamists. Your ears would melt.

Posted by: Hucbald at September 05, 2006 11:12 AM (mNBSL)

5 Stop Iran and you stop the terrorism. If there was ever any good Iranians they have left the country. Iran should be our STOP IT OR THE SAME WILL HAPPEN TO YOU. They act like rabid animals. Treat them like rabid animals.

Posted by: greyrooster at September 05, 2006 11:36 AM (dxmNN)

6 Isolate them, cut off the food and resources they need to survive. Accelereate the drilling at Jack 2 in the gulf, and eliminate the need for Iranian oil. The price of oil will plummet. Their source of revenue will dry up and they will starve.

The rest of the world will not be enough to save Iranian oil consumption because we will not let a drop of it out.

Posted by: SeeMonk at September 05, 2006 01:58 PM (7teJ9)

7 Just a thought, but if he wants to purge the universities of liberals, I was just thinking... can we get that guy as our President?

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 05, 2006 04:56 PM (v3I+x)

8 Careful IM. Our academic meatheads may demand that we take them.

Posted by: greyrooster at September 05, 2006 08:21 PM (8PMUy)

9 Yet not a word about it from the wacademics here at home (too busy hating Bush).

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at September 06, 2006 01:40 AM (8e/V4)

10 I have a feeling that WARD CHURCHILL if he lived there would end up purged and so would 90% of americas liberal secular collage knownothings and now i,ll bet that evoltion will soon be banned in iran not a bad idea after all

Posted by: sandpiper at September 06, 2006 08:59 AM (1mdPR)

11 Its like David Horowitz' heaven over there.

Posted by: actus at September 06, 2006 05:40 PM (nnhSu)

12 "It is probably best to go ahead and nuke Iran right now and get it over with."

That'll certainly purge their universities.

Posted by: actus at September 06, 2006 05:45 PM (nnhSu)

13 I hate these new words that have come up after 9/11.

Islamist- What a bootleg word. Call them what they are. That means they're either Salifist, Khomeinist, Pan-Arabist, Islamic Socialist.

Jihad- Like people know what this actually means. This means waging a struggle against an inner evil. Not holy war. No war is holy in Islam. So when you call someone a jihadist, that means they're a good person. So don't call them that.

Jihadist- What did I say before?

Anyway, we might just see a July 7th happen again. This time I think that PJAK, Jundallah, and the Arbav Martyrs of Khuzestan might stir up some trouble if the students revolt.

Posted by: Some Dude at September 07, 2006 07:46 PM (Iq9PC)

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September 02, 2006

Khatami and Carter

As a followup to Rusty's previous post, there are some 'behind the scenes' efforts to get former Iranian President Mohammad Khatami hooked up with former President Jimmy Carter.

From Radio Free Europe:

There has been talk that Khatami's U.S. visit could eventually lead to a meeting with former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, whose presidency was marred by the taking of U.S. hostages in Tehran following the Islamic revolution in 1979.
"The Washington Post" reported that Carter has agreed in principle to host Khatami. There has been no official reaction from Khatami, but the "Financial Times" quoted Iranian sources today as saying Khatami would be unlikely to accept such an invitation.

Even so, some people are hopeful. In particular, Professor Houshang Amirahmadi of Rutgers University and the Iranian-American Council believes Khatami's presence is positive and a meeting with Jimmy Carter could be a real icebreaker.

"Before traveling to the U.S., Mr. Khatami should discuss the issue with Iranian leaders, with Ayatollah [Ali] Khamenei, and tell them that after meeting with Mr. Carter he would invite [Carter] to visit Iran," Amirahmadi says.

So, if birds of a feather flock together, I'd guess that Khatami and Carter would make the perfect anti-American pair of flocking caucusers.

Companion post at Interested-Participant.

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1 Just be sure you check your wallet. Carter will give it away with our freedoms. He is a subvert. Sadly, I think he really believes he is doing the right thing.

Posted by: SeeMonk at September 02, 2006 09:29 PM (n4VvM)

2 This so-called "Iranian-American Council" is, as far as I can tell, the Shiite Mullah's equivalent of CAIR. In my opinion these bastards are nothing more a Mullah mouthpiece/propaganda machine and are traitors to both countries.

And as for Carter, when is this guy going to stop embarassing himself?

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at September 02, 2006 10:00 PM (Bp6wV)

3 Yes, SeeMonk, Carter is sadly one of the worst creations in the Universe, a liberal Christian. They believe groveling and butt-kissing of tyrants to be the highest form of worship, and along with a fuzzy belief in a Being of some sort, they seek happiness through appeasement of evil. A more worthless and dangerous creature does not exist in the West.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 02, 2006 10:03 PM (rUyw4)

4 Carter has been an idiot since before 1979 when he tried to get me killed (I was on the was to Iran as an advisor) or captured. Folks, 444 days is a long time in captivity. Someone needs to put him in a windowless cage for the rest of his miserable life.

Posted by: Scrapiron at September 02, 2006 11:07 PM (ds0+e)

5 Scrapiron: How would ya like ta be the security detail for the viral hosting event? Lock the entire entourage up together for 444 days..........

Posted by: forest hunter at September 02, 2006 11:14 PM (TjUVb)

6 Watch noe organizations like AIC (Amirahmadi) his new creation NIAC )Titra Parsi) thier counter parts NIPOC in orange county California and IMAN center through (Namazighah) and IABA (Iranian BAR Association) through Babaie and alike all of a sudden start talking dialouge between cultures.
Culture assumes history and something positive Khatami and his gang are not Muslims, they are not Iranians they are nothing more than evil executioners who were handed a country.

Iran and Iranians survived the sord of Islam some 1500 years ago, and again Iran is occupied by Arabs and Iranians held hostage, except the sords has been change with a Russion made machine Gun.

There are no negotiations to be had, when will these politaticions get it, No one can make a deal with the devil and thses Mullah's will and have put one over the devil. The key are the true Iranian people who love the west and its culture and when supported will over turn these good for nothing bastards.

Posted by: visitor at September 02, 2006 11:47 PM (l/d/z)

7 I lived through Carter's "presidency" and the damage he did to our country then is still haunting us.
Sadly, he is still doing active damage to us.
Wish he would just go on back to Georgia and raise his peanuts.

Posted by: badeye at September 03, 2006 06:02 AM (uJdxH)

8 Maybe Khatami could take Carter HOSTAGE and take his sorry ass back to Iran. Put him in the same cell as the U.S hostages were in. Never let him see daylight for oh, say the next hundred years.

Works for me.

Posted by: n.a. palm at September 03, 2006 07:17 AM (Bjsvu)

9 Just like when JIMMY CARTER went over to lick castros boots he is going to be licking khatamis boots as he always has done boy what a worthless little fool

Posted by: sandpiper at September 03, 2006 07:44 PM (YIXxO)

10 To say Jimmy Carter is a bad president is like saying the Titanic got a little wet. He is an embarassment to the United States. I find it astonishing that anybody in this country can find a single worthwhile thing to say about a worthless ex-president.

No joke.

Really.

Posted by: Slick at September 07, 2006 09:42 PM (purXw)

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September 01, 2006

Khatami-mania!

Mike from The Middle East Media Research Institute is celebratiing former Iranian President Mohammad Khatami visit to the U.S. the only way MEMRI knows how. So Mike dug up some dirt on Khatami that I'm sure will be shocking to regular Jawa readers.

Remember, this is what passes for reformist and moderate in the Iranian political establishment.

Khatami says:

It is Difficult to Distinguish Between Bush and bin Laden (video).

You can rest assured that we will not relinquish our right to enrich uranium (video).

Don't be tempted by those who were banished from the revolution and want to give us the gift of 'freedom' and 'democracy' (video).

We love Hezbollah! (video)

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August 31, 2006

Exclusive: Full Text of IAEA Iran Report

The guys at Vital Perspectives have obtained a copy of the International Atomic Energy Agency's report on Iran. You can see the full text of the IAEA Iran report here. more...

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1 Hello,

This is a great blog. I'm going to be sure to link yours to mine. Would you mind doing the same for me?

Thank you very much.

My site:
www.americanlegends.blogspot.com

Take care,
Mark

Posted by: J. Mark English at August 31, 2006 03:30 PM (+OxYx)

2 As a result, the IAEA still cannot make a determination as to the nature of the Iranian nuclear program.

These idiots will get us all killed.

Posted by: davec at August 31, 2006 05:18 PM (QkWqQ)

3 While they talk the Iranian dogs continue to say fuck you to the world. The United Nations will stand up tall and issue a sanction. From now on no one can ship pork products to Iran. That should really hurt them. Or maybe Kofi the Clown will stop the importation of American whiskey to Iran. They just couldn't stand that.
We have lost our balls. Why? Because someone knows a muslim who is a nice guy.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 31, 2006 05:38 PM (wDEFg)

4 Right again, GR. You do have a way of cutting through the bullshit and getting right to the point. The majority of people in the US are now unable to act in a way that will save their own lives because they are so scared of offending someone else. However, I intend to do my part, which will result in saving the lives of the dumb asses as well. Now I know how the Rangers felt in The Lord of the Rings.

Posted by: jesusland joe at August 31, 2006 07:42 PM (rUyw4)

5 Time to make the bullets..........

Posted by: n.a. palm at August 31, 2006 08:37 PM (DE62O)

6 Today in Utah Mr. Bush said Iran can not be allow to have nukes. How long will it be before Iran is set back 10 years on it's nuke program? Is this the beginning of the end?

Posted by: Leatherneck at August 31, 2006 09:41 PM (D2g/j)

7 "How long will it be before Iran is set back 10 years on it's nuke program?"

We have absolutely zero inside intelligence on the Iranian nuclear program. We do know they have outside help from Pakistan via the now infamous A.Q. Khan, father of the Islamic nuclear bomb...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/khan-iran.htm

They were getting equipment and plans as far back as 1988 and the IAEA has proof it continued up to at least 1996, a full 6 years after Pakistan supposedly stopped sending it...

Who's to say they don't already have nuclear weapons, and are just waiting to build a sufficient supply of fissible material and weapons before announcing so?

Seeing how much the loony Basiji President of Iran has been spouting, I place my bet that they already possess a few weapons.

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August 09, 2006

Dead Iranians In Lebanon

I'm sure they were just there as tourists. I hear Tyre is so much nicer than Tehran this time of year.

Reuters: Members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard have been found among Hizbollah guerrillas slain by Israeli forces in southern Lebanon, Israel's Channel 10 television reported on Wednesday citing diplomatic sources.
It said the Iranians were identified by documents found on their bodies, but gave no further details on how many were discovered or when. Neither the Israeli military nor Hizbollah representatives in Beirut had immediate comment on the report.

Via no-linky-the-Jawa Drudge.

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1 Hmmm, very interesting. Maybe Iran is helping the party of moon god. Nah, that could not be it. A wedding?

Posted by: Leatherneck at August 09, 2006 09:02 PM (D2g/j)

2 Rusty,
You wouldn't believe how intensely ordinary Iranians hate these Revolutionary Guards ("Pasdaran"). In Arab countries, however, they walk around ten feet all carrying themselves as the champions of Islam.
The patriots do target them when they can. For instance, military planes transporting ranking officers of the "Pasdaran" are somehow very very accident prone! The colonel commander of the supposedly most elite unit amongst them (called "Quds") was cut down by patriots in broad daylight. And no,... I don't consider these patriots terrorists since they only target the uniformed agents of the Islamic regime and not any civilians.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at August 09, 2006 09:15 PM (Bp6wV)

3 Rusty,
If you or your co-bloggers find pictures of any documents/material/arms etc with clearly visible markings that these dead Revolutionary Guards may have had with them; I could read and translate stuff for you any if you guys just post the pictures somewhere. If you are interested that is.
Best
GM

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at August 09, 2006 09:22 PM (Bp6wV)

4 I'm sure jd can explain that they were just humanitarian aid workers.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 09, 2006 10:01 PM (v3I+x)

5 Notice how quickly Mehr attempts to make excuses for the Iranian pigs. No Iranian can be trusted. They are born deceitful.
Wasn't hard to figure Iranians would have troops imbeded with Hezbollah. After all, they are Hezbollah.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 09, 2006 10:34 PM (SZgRY)

6 You are banned. Goodbye.

Posted by: Rusty at August 09, 2006 11:02 PM (x+8Rs)

7 PS-You're not even a smart racist. A smart racist would know that "Iran" means, literally, "Land of the Aryans."

Thanks for your support over the years, but I've warned you dozens of times.

Posted by: Rusty at August 09, 2006 11:04 PM (x+8Rs)

8 Aw c'mon greyrooster... "no" Iranian can be trusted? There are quite a few who fled that country because they happen to hate the mullahs and love America. And many others who would flee if they had the means. I say we can trust those Iranians.

Of course, the theory of "American friendly youth" in Iran is grossly exagerated. I say we can only trust about 8-9% of Iranians.

Posted by: wooga at August 09, 2006 11:04 PM (tAB8A)

9 I'm sure they're civilian IRG so nothing to get bothered about.

Posted by: chuck at August 09, 2006 11:38 PM (3dSK8)

10 So Rusty, you gonna let Rooster come back time after time after time like you do with the lefturds you ban? You know, the ones like greg, who blames everything on the Jews? Getting a bit PC sensitive since you've been mentioned in the MSM a couple of times are you?

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 12:16 AM (v3I+x)

11 If who you banned is who I think you banned - can't you just give him a time-out? Seriously. He talks alot of trouble sometimes but seems very genuine.

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at August 10, 2006 12:35 AM (Ztkoe)

12 Gee, IM, seen greg around lately?

Posted by: Vinnie - Editor In Chief at August 10, 2006 12:46 AM (/qy9A)

13 Funny, I show up in the comments and you assholes shut your fucking mouths.

Good. Shut your fucking mouth, IM. Racism isn't wanted here.

Don't like it? Start your own fucking blog.

The thing you stupid cocksuckers don't seem to realize is that this blog isn't getting its traffic from people coming to read Greyrooster's worthless shit, they come to read our posts.

The only people who come to read your shit is you.

Posted by: Vinnie - Editor In Chief at August 10, 2006 12:53 AM (/qy9A)

14 Everyone knows that these people don't carry any identification docs in case they are captured so how in the hell can the Israeli's say they're Iranians (unless Iranians have a common birth mark or they're branded like cattle).

This is ridiculous.

Posted by: Tom at August 10, 2006 01:45 AM (WfcPH)

15 Given some of the conflicting information coming from Iran via the press recently, I might be inclined to take up Tom's argument. Maybe just not in the manner he proposed it.

Rusty, I can't say I am sorry to see Rooster go. I allowed him to bring the worst out of me the other day and so I want to apologize and say I will refrain from that behavior while on any site other than my own. And yes, I have my own site. Lame as it is, it is better than any of my recent detractors. But then, none of them have a site of their own.

Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 08:30 AM (7teJ9)

16 Hey Leatherneck,

Arab weddings are easy to find. Just listen for the guns fired into the air. Sort of like the reaction to a US air raid.

Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 08:31 AM (7teJ9)

17 My bad let me rephrase this, the conflicting info originating from Israel. I have Iran on the brain. I have been mulling over the al-Qeada / Iran connection in the bombing plots and it doesn't add up for me.

Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 08:35 AM (7teJ9)

18 Whoa Rusty!

Please don't ban greyrooster! He's probably one of the most reasonable unreasonable voices here! (you could reverse that too - works both ways).

No one should be banned really - they should be argued with or ignored ... and you can easily alternate both with the same person depending on the point.

He and I have differences - here is a perfect example - Iranians - I feel strongly the opposite and now don't have the opportunity to argue it with him.

Posted by: hondo at August 10, 2006 09:59 AM (XrexX)

19 Rusty, if you ban Greyrooster for what he said and has said on this blog, then Mehr should be banned for saying basically the same thing about Arabs on several threads over the past few weeks. Of course, this is your blog, and you may do as you please, but I'm just saying. What's good for the rooster, in this case, is good for the Garduneh.

Posted by: jesusland joe at August 10, 2006 10:31 AM (rUyw4)

20 Hey, fuck you Vinnie. If you want to talk like a big man on the internet, then send me an email and we'll get together so I can stomp your fucking guts out you cowardly piece of shit. You're nothing but a fucking gutless bully who likes to push people around, but if you'll meet me somewhere, I'll cure you of that you cocksucker. But I know you won't, because out from behind that keyboard, you're just another fat suburbanite chickenshit who talks big but walks small. Come on, email me and let's set a place to meet, I can take a few days off to meet you halfway if you're man enough to stand up for it. You want to talk big? Now's your chance you piece of shit coward, or you can ban me, like the gutless cocksucker you are, as if I'll give a shit. Please, ban me and show the world what a gutless, cowardly bully you are.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 10:34 AM (v3I+x)

21 By the way, if anyone is wondering about Vinnie's problem; he's mad at me because I don't like unions, and being a typical union thug, he likes to try to push people around who believe he should have to earn an honest living like everyone else, but he's too good for that. So what does he do? He goes the PC route and claims that racism is his motivation for bullying people. He's a gutless coward who won't face me man to man so I can see what he's made of.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 10:41 AM (v3I+x)

22 I don't like unions, either.

Posted by: jesusland joe at August 10, 2006 10:53 AM (rUyw4)

23 Oh, and Vinnie, if I start my own blog, it won't suck like yours, which is so lame that you have to post on someone else's blog. Not only are you a chickeshit thug, you're an idiot too.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 10:53 AM (v3I+x)

24 Yeah, not a fan of the unions here, either...

However - I think most of the contributers here (except for the random trolls) are of the same mind when it comes to freedom, democracy, and our country.

Howzabout we cowboy-up and turn our energy toward the common goal of kicking the Islamotards back into the stone age?

Posted by: EricInTexas at August 10, 2006 12:38 PM (frAQ8)

25 Eric, that's my sole mission, but some people don't like it.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 06:05 PM (v3I+x)

26 Actually, if you look at the way many of them live - they are in the Stone Age. Many in fact want to return to a Stone Age like past - just a candle and koran being all they need.

Posted by: hondo at August 10, 2006 06:05 PM (XrexX)

27 "Everyone knows that these people don't carry any identification docs in case they are captured so how in the hell can the Israeli's say they're Iranians (unless Iranians have a common birth mark or they're branded like cattle)."

Face to face, I can tell the difference between Persians and Arabs pretty easily. It's really just a question of familiarity. So I don't doubt that Israeli's could identify Iranians, but I still doubt this particular report because it is so poorly sourced.

Posted by: wooga at August 10, 2006 07:27 PM (tAB8A)

28 Wooga makes an excellent point - can do and agree totally.

I strongly suspect that there are however Iranians in the field there. My "proof" is purely anecdotal. The Plaestinians (HZba) aren't bright enough on there own to reach this level of partial proficiency.

If there is a lightblub in the area to be found - chances are an Iranian screwed it in.

Posted by: hondo at August 10, 2006 08:00 PM (XrexX)

29 The Iranians would probably carry credentials so that they didn't get murdered as spies. The Hezzies are probably very secretive and cell-oriented, and strangers would be treated with suspicion if they didn't have proof of identity.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 11:41 PM (v3I+x)

30 Feel the testosterone! :-o)

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 10, 2006 11:58 PM (gLMre)

31 er Larry

Are you hitting on someone here? You know, this is not that kind of blog.

Posted by: hondo at August 11, 2006 12:03 AM (XrexX)

32 No Hondo. I am simply marvelling at the human propensity to violence at the slightest provocation. You know the drill .... drag spouses, mothers, sisters, pets and anything and everything into the threats and name calling. It falls back to an earlier time when ape's beat on their chests to scare away enemies! What motivates a person to take time off work and travel half-way across the globe to settle an argument with a stranger that disagreed on a blog? Beats me! My little mini icon :-o) was meant to express wonder and awe (gasp), not an invitation for your throbbing member! Sorry to dissappoint! :-)

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 11, 2006 10:59 AM (gLMre)

33 Don't you try to feel my testosterone; I don't swing that way.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 11, 2006 11:03 AM (v3I+x)

34 I'm not disappointed - I'm relieved.

Thinking about changing your handle to Last Glup Larry?

Posted by: hondo at August 11, 2006 01:10 PM (XrexX)

35 That lil' mimi icon you refer was somewhat suggestive.

Posted by: hondo at August 11, 2006 01:12 PM (XrexX)

36 Wow, IM would you seriously go that far out of your way to kick Vinnie's ass?

If you lost the fight would you admit it in front of everyone?

Did you say you were special forces in the Army?

Posted by: Cmunk at August 11, 2006 03:00 PM (7teJ9)

37 BTW, I have worked Industrial construction for 10 years now. Non-union all the time. There is no union for my line of work. The sparky unions and pipe fitters unions are no fun to deal with if you sub work out to non-union contractors.

My Dad once had to work the rail yards as a strike buster. I think the term is scab. Middle of winter in Wisconsin.

Posted by: Cmunk at August 11, 2006 03:03 PM (7teJ9)

38 Cmunk:
1. I will go anywhere the mission requires.
2. I don't lose fights.
3. I was in the engineers and artillery.
4. A scab is someone who crosses picket lines to work.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 11, 2006 05:40 PM (v3I+x)

39 You guys please save your energy for those moon god worshippers. One plane ticket is a lot of ammo. If you live close to a big city, it is only a matter of time. Who knows, maybe they will come right by your house, and you can shoot from the window.

Posted by: Leatherneck at August 11, 2006 06:20 PM (D2g/j)

40 maxie

Short rounds, wrong charge, mis-written grid reference ...
please don't tell me you were the other guy on the mike.

Posted by: hondo at August 11, 2006 07:30 PM (XrexX)

41 Sorry to have stirred they fires. No, I think I'll stick with gasp for now. I was thinking maybe Hondogondo might work for you .... :-)

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 11, 2006 10:48 PM (gLMre)

42 I guess Vinnie, the liberal in disguise, thinks his worthless shit is worth more than others worthless shit. Wrong Vinnie. You are a worthless shit. A liberal ass kisser with a bad case of Oystrich syndrome. Get your head out of your ass punk.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 14, 2006 09:12 PM (y5dGS)

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July 29, 2006

Iran Bans Pizza

Well not pizza exactly just the word. I'd like an 18 inch super deluxe elastic loaf with extra bacon and cheese.

Washington Post: TEHRAN, Iran -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has ordered government and cultural bodies to use modified Persian words to replace foreign words that have crept into the language, such as "pizzas" which will now be known as "elastic loaves," state media reported.

The academy has introduced more than 2,000 words as alternatives for some of the foreign words that have become commonly used in Iran, mostly from Western languages. The government is less sensitive about Arabic words, because the Quran is written in Arabic.
Among other changes, a "chat" will become a "short talk" and a "cabin" will be renamed a "small room," according to official Web site of the academy.

A few others I think are common.

"Nuclear Bomb Fuel" will be renamed "The good stuff".

"Tryanny" shall be renamed "Freedom".

"Israel" shall be renamed "Extinct".

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1 I'll take some Canadian bacon, sausage, ham, pepperoni, salami with mine.

Everything but a Muslim squeal.

Posted by: Darth Vag at July 29, 2006 11:50 AM (+nlyI)

2 I think I covered some of those in the super deluxe part. Damn now posting this made me hungry.

Lunch break!

Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2006 11:59 AM (D3+20)

3 What the Islamic republic won't tell you, are the words that Iranian patriots have for this filthy regime and its agents
Ahmadinezhad is also called "Antar" meaing Chimp, "Meymoon" meaning Monkey, and "1K" because this mother-f**ker has personally participated in murdering 1000 Iranian Partiots. Actually this parasites name means "of the race of Mohammad"; the arsehole is NOT even Iranian. He's a f**king Arab.

For "Islam", we say "Eshal" meaning diarrhoea. This is especially appropriate, since Islam is a an afflication of the soul.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at July 29, 2006 12:00 PM (Bp6wV)

4 So he's going to ban "foreign words" from the Persian language? That's great! I guess he's going to start with words like "Islam", "Qur'an", and "hizb-ullah", right?

Posted by: Asher Abrams at July 29, 2006 12:09 PM (Mu7y2)

5 Asher Abrams,
Actually one of the ways in which this Arabo-Islamic regime is engaged in erasing the identity of the Iranian people is their continuous attempt at diluting the Persian language with numerous superfluous Arabic admixtures. Discouraging the use of words from Western languages is part of their strategy at creating and widening a gap between Iranians and the westerners. Actually since Persian is an Indo-European/Indo-Aryan language, Western words fit in with its grammer more seamlessly than Arabic words.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at July 29, 2006 12:22 PM (Bp6wV)

6 No I know we need to move on Iran. It is irrefutable. No pizza?!

Curses Be Upon Him, Ahmadingleberry!

Posted by: Good Lt at July 29, 2006 12:24 PM (jWYAe)

7 Good Lt.
Frankly your country would've done the whole world a huge favour by eliminating the threat of the Mullahs ruling Iran and their henchmen (including Hizbullah) before dealing with that arsehole Saddam.
Put another way, although eradicating the Baa'thist regime of Saddam was morally correct, in my opinion, it wasn't as immediately urgent as regime change in Iran. And if you guys ever do decide to take on the Mullahs, I'll be happy to serve alongside you. I'm probably too bloody old to serve in a combat capacity, but I can serve as an interpretter. As you can see my English ain't half bad.

Are really a lieutenant in the U.S military?

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at July 29, 2006 12:43 PM (Bp6wV)

8 Jihad Fries.

Posted by: MiB at July 29, 2006 12:58 PM (SsNTi)

9 Right, sadam wasn't so bad after all! Ok, on the Kurds he was a bad ass! Besides that the only thing he did was killing shiets and making war against Iran. And guess what we up against right now, Hezbollah and its big titti Iran! Ok, thatâ€™s in the past and still busy cleaning up the mess!

To think of it, the shiets were our friend during the first golf war. Ask senior! What happened?

Posted by: Dan at July 29, 2006 01:17 PM (Z2OsI)

10 What happened?

We screwed the poor basterds. Swartzkop wanted to push to Baghdad, but who called him back, right! It would have been to costly to do with those 500.000 soldiers instead of the 150.000 understaffed right now!

I really wonder what Senior is thinking, if he looks back on that decision!

Posted by: Dan at July 29, 2006 01:29 PM (Z2OsI)

11 I got some elastic loaf for ya Ahmadinejad.

Posted by: traderrob at July 29, 2006 01:32 PM (3al54)

12 For ten days after the 1991 Gulf War, Iraq was rocked by true rebellion. Many Iraqi soldiers engaged in mass mutiny and deserted, showing they did not want to fight an imperialist war. Iraq was the center for secular working class insurrection against the forces of nationalism there. The Iraqi mutineers turned their guns on their masters, the Baath Party. Baath means revival of nationalism. In the Kurdish north, it is a mistake to assume that the insurgents there were all nationalists. After the Baath regime gassed Halabja, the Kurdish pershmerga militias were chased away from some of the refugee camps and some cities there. As in the Shiite south, The reason Bush Sr. let Saddam crush the uprising was because the U.S.A. could not control the rebellion, as the purpose for rebellions is to overthrow the government. The USA government, Saddam, the Kurdish nationalists, and all other capitalist forces were threatened by the rebellion, so they all made a short pact to quell class insurgency. Governments and capitalists of all stripes can not control rebellions, period. That is why they wage wars in the first place. So you see, wars can be ended by rebellion! http://www.libcom.org/history/articles/iraq-south-kurdistan-uprisings-1991/index.php

Posted by: anarchistmanifesto at July 29, 2006 02:33 PM (XqA4O)

13 Bullshit! The reason why Bush Sr backed off was Collin Powell saw the highway of death and got all teary eyed over it and pushed Bush to end it.

Posted by: Barney Coppersmith at July 29, 2006 02:43 PM (2BOvC)

14 "Tyranny shall be renamed Freedom" Howie, you actually hit the nail on the head with your post. Give yourself a pat on the back. Muslim fundamentalists are only capitalists in disguise. In terms of Iran, the working class there is so isolated from politics here in this country. Look, neither the USA government nor this "revolutionary" theocratic Tehran government cares about the people of Iran. Radical working class revolutionaries should have never joined forces with Ayatollah Khomeini and his covenant of religious clerics during the Iranian revolution of 1978-1979. After the Islamists were firmly seated in power, they turned on the Iranian grassroots cooperatives, or shoras. Lesson learned: never join forces with authoritarians, even you have a common authoritarian enemy. The enemy of an enemy is not always a friend.
http://www.libcom.org/history/articles/iranian-revolution-1978-1979/

Posted by: anarchistmanifesto at July 29, 2006 02:48 PM (XqA4O)

15 Anarch....,
A commie by any other name is still a commie.
You pinkos have a great deal in common with Islamists; both groups want to turn the world into a hive where a self-appointed handful called respectively "the Party secretariate" or "the Califite" control every aspect of peoples lives from their beliefs all the way to the content their bread-baskets.
So, F**K YOU pinko commie b*tch. It ain't gonna happen.
Totalitarianism is doomed to extinction since freedom is the the natural state of man.
Recall your recent history you pinko b*tch:
a) Nazi'ism was dispatched to hell.
b) Japanese Shoganite was reduced to ashes.
c) Soviet Union disintegrated
d) The Ottoman Islamic Califite was shattered.
And I promise you, Islamism will be flushed down the toilet of history where it belongs.
The only reason you commies support the Islamofascists is to retaliate against the U.S. for having been largely responsible for the extinction of Stalinism of which a pathetic handful like you are the only relics.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at July 29, 2006 02:50 PM (Bp6wV)

16 You do have a point too, Barney Coppersmith; however, governments rarely support a grassroots uprising against rival governments. Your forgetting how radical rebellions can be. There's a difference between a war and a rebellion you know. There are mutinies in all wars Barney, just on different scales. There was the massive French mutiny in 68 divisions in WW1. Look at the Vietnam War too. There were 209 fraggings in 1970 alone. Of course, that was back in the day when the country was smoldering with street revolts.

Posted by: anarchistmanifesto at July 29, 2006 03:00 PM (XqA4O)

17 Don't you understand Garduneh Mehr? Do you not recall the repression of Kronstadt? Do you know who Nestor Mahkno was? Anarchists were massacred in many of the revolutions where Marxist-Leninists took over, including the Soviet Union. I despise all authoritarians, regardless of their political stripes. What part dont you understand Jawas? Quit slandering me by equating me with dictators. Why be on the same side with dictators in the first place? Remember the Knight of the Long Knives, or the Stalinist Purges of Trotskyists? Dictators do not want to share the world with anyone. That is why they always purge their own people. Sheesh.

Posted by: anarchistmanifesto at July 29, 2006 03:11 PM (XqA4O)

18 Don't you understand Garduneh Mehr? Do you not recall the repression of Kronstadt? Do you know who Nestor Mahkno was? Anarchists were massacred in many of the revolutions where Marxist-Leninists took over, including the Soviet Union. I despise all authoritarians, regardless of their political stripes. What part dont you understand Jawas? Quit slandering me by equating me with dictators. Why be on the same side with dictators in the first place? Remember the Night of the Long Knives, or the Stalinist Purges of Trotskyists? Dictators do not want to share the world with anyone. That is why they always purge their own people. Sheesh.

Posted by: anarchistmanifesto at July 29, 2006 03:11 PM (XqA4O)

19 Anar....
I assure you the advice of "by their fruits ye shall know them ... A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit" has always stood me in good stead. And for this reason it is as easy for me to see through your inane ramblings as it is to recognize Islmaic "Taqqiyah" (the deception that Muslimes are required to engage in much as you do with you pinko'ism).
You're NOTHING more than a sore loser pinko so shut the f**k up and get out.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at July 29, 2006 03:29 PM (Bp6wV)

Gees you guys are taking this way too serious.

Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2006 03:32 PM (D3+20)

21 You are mixed up with ideologies, Garduneh Mehr. First of all, the Islamists hate socialism and nationalism. Second, anarchists oppose Stalinism because Stalinism is just state capitalism, like Islamic fundamentalism. Third, anarchists oppose war. Fourth, I criticize all dictators, including ours. Furthermore, if all of you like war so much, go to Somalia, the Congo, or Columbia. Finally, you just do not scare me. Your slanders are too cliche. Work on new ones. Well, I'll be back sometime and blog some more. In the mean time, the Jawa Report needs to talk about other more taboo issues to spice things up because it is losing its touch.

Posted by: anarchistmanifesto at July 29, 2006 03:33 PM (XqA4O)

22 Howie,
Yup you're right! Talking to a pinko, a commie, a Muslime, an anti-semite and any fanatic is like trying to have a conversation with a bloody tape-recorder. Ridiculing them and laughing at their lunacy is perhaps the most entertaining course of action.

Sorry, I didn't mean to take up too much space in the comments.
Best
GM

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at July 29, 2006 03:48 PM (Bp6wV)

23 anarchistmanifesto: you say "Anarchists were massacred" as if anarchists are an organized political group, or something.

Do you not have a shred of logic in you?

Anarchy = a lack of order, confusion. In order for you to indulge yourself you are undoubtedly a.) a student with an allowance - have fun while you can b.) the recipient of a trust fund - you lucky dog or c.) French.

So which is it, mon petit? Remember that wonderful romantic, Leo Ferre? He had fame and money (...en dix mille ans!) while his stupid fans self-destructed around him. He was talented, though.

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at July 29, 2006 04:02 PM (aH6Zf)

24 Where were you all guys when Americans renamed "French fries" to "Freedom fries"?. So in nutshell if USA does the same it is good if others do then beat the hell out of them. Wow. Hypocracy thy name is America!!!.

Posted by: Gurmit Singh at July 29, 2006 05:05 PM (dC+78)

25 Garduneh Mehr, dictators do not always join forces with one another. Why do you think the terrorist Abu Nidal committed "suicide"? Because Saddam saw him as a threat to his power, and so he ordered him to be assassinated.
http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/jwit/jwit020823_1_n.shtml
The government's enemies can not join forces because they are too segregated by ideology. Herioc Dreamer, anarchists are organized. Just because in school you were not taught about the anarchist movement does not mean that they were unorganized. I'll tell you about one of my favorite anarchists: Nestor Makhno. You see, Nestor was besieged by a variety of enemies: the Russian White Army, the Ukraine nationalists, and the Bolsheviks. The peasant insurgents he organized actually won some clashes with those forces. Unfortunately, they were defeated by the Bolsheviks. If none of you believe that then go to the Nestor Makhno Archive.
http://www.nestormakhno.info/index.htm
Sorry Heroic Dreamer, I am not French. They treat the Algerian immigrants as bad as they treat Jews. It is not easy being the only one that thinks differently here. Actually debating different thoughts is what blogs should be about, not segregating themselves. Isn't that what controversy is all about? Facing ideas in sharp contrast to yours? I think I will take some time off from this blog. Trying to spread some political diversity by yourself is no easy task, especially if the whole blog is against you. Oh well, I think I'll pursue my studies at college. One more think, not all anarchists are white, ok? Peace out.

Posted by: anarchistmanifesto at July 29, 2006 05:10 PM (XqA4O)

26 You don't get it. It's fun to screw with the French.

Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2006 06:08 PM (D3+20)

27 HA HA - anarchist - you're a college student - I was right.
Only a college student would try to argue that anarchists are organized.

You need to locate your common sense. I'm sure it's in there somewhere.

Word of advice: don't follow someone just because they're charismatic. I knew a few French "anarchists" - art and literature students - ended up taking drugs. romantic. self-destructive. idiotic. waste of time.

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at July 29, 2006 06:52 PM (aH6Zf)

28 anarchrist - the Afghan Northern Alliance may disagree with you.

Posted by: Barney Coppersmith at July 29, 2006 07:45 PM (2BOvC)

29 The difference with the "Freedom Fries example Gurmit is it wasn't an edict from the government by penalty of getting ones Nads removed if violated.

Posted by: traderrob at July 29, 2006 08:09 PM (3al54)

30 New Iranian Words just in.

A sheep will be a "cock glove"
A boy will be a "pin cushion"
A butt plug will be a "rectal buddy"
And a 4 inch dildo will be a "by Allah why is it twice as big as ours"

Posted by: Randman at July 30, 2006 02:17 AM (Sal3J)

31 Why so much animosity just because a nation wants to keep its language free from foreign words? Are we all going to give up our languages and speak foreign one day? Donâ€™t French and Japanese and Chinese do the same thing and have local words for foreign words? I am 100% behind the concept as long as the recommended alternatives are practical and make sense. I am not sure about â€œSmall Roomâ€ as an alternative for cabin!
God bless Iran.

Posted by: Kiumars at July 30, 2006 08:30 AM (4mH9A)

32 Garduneh Mehr
Why people give wrong email address here? My email to Garduneh Mehr bounced because the email address does not exist! That says a lot about the person who even has not got the ball to give an email address! We cannot find you by your email address donâ€™t worry!

Posted by: Kiumars at July 30, 2006 08:47 AM (4mH9A)

33 Kiumars - Anything your little goat cock sucking mouth needs to say to anyone here should be posted here - understand asshole?

Who the fuck wants to trade e-mails with your stank muzzie ass? I bet you're an expert on not having balls.

Posted by: Barney Coppersmith at July 30, 2006 09:03 AM (2BOvC)

34 The most damaging foreign influence in Iran has been the filthy demonic pseudo-religion of the Arab barbarian and his ugly language.
And if you are an Arab-worshipping Muslime, as I suspect you are, then you are definitely a traitor, likely a terrorist sympathizer, and possibly a terrorist yourself.
Mecca and Medina must be nuked NOW

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at July 30, 2006 09:10 AM (Bp6wV)

35 Thanks Barney Coppersmith,
I suspect this "Kiumars" guy is most likely an agent of the Islamic Regime ruling Iran. The Mullahs have a well-funded well-oiled propaganda machine. They spend around 1 billion U.S. dollars every year on Muslime propaganda in the U.S. alone; one facet of this propaganda is to pollute the media including the internet and radio/TV talk-shows etc etc.
F**k Islam and those who follow it.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at July 30, 2006 09:19 AM (Bp6wV)

36 pedagogyfilter/enabled
rantalert/active
bullshit/sleep
foreplayfilter/engaged
muslimindataminers/protect

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at July 30, 2006 10:06 PM (gLMre)

37 Warms the heart to see the Mad Hatter in such a dither! Gee! I hope we havn't pissed him off too much! /sarcasm/allow

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at July 30, 2006 10:09 PM (gLMre)

38 Look! Mad Hatter is using the pointed finger restrained by thumb technique as introduced by Bill Clinton and further developed by Rummy Rumsfeld! Sure to be a success!

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at July 31, 2006 11:13 AM (gLMre)

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July 12, 2006

The Mullahs Like No Dongs

Via Drudge, a report that Iranian engineers were in the DPRK to witness Kim Jong's unrestricted missile warfare against innocent sea life.

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July 07, 2006

That Train Has Left The Station

Mahmoud Ahmagonnameetallah drives up the cost of oil again:

TEHRAN, Iran -
Iran's hard-line president warned Friday that continued Israeli strikes against Palestinians could lead to an Islamic "explosion" targeting
Israel and its Western supporters.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told thousands of demonstrators gathered in the capital, Tehran, to condemn the strikes in the
Gaza Strip that Israel's supporters could be the target of revenge by Muslims.
"They should not let things reach a point where an explosion occurs in the Islamic world," he said. "If an explosion occurs, then it won't be limited to geographical boundaries. It will also burn all those who created (Israel) over the past 60 years," he said.
Ahmadinejad once again questioned Israel's right to exist.

So.....an Islamic explosion? What does that mean? Are they going to start flying hijacked airplanes into buildings? Blow up trains and subways? A nightclub in Bali, perhaps?

I think Islam's done already exploded.

stein hoist: LGF

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May 25, 2006

Iranian Student Protests Turn Violent

What is so ironic is that when the Iranian Mullah regime falls, it will because of university students like these---the same group that brought the Mullahcracy to power in the first place.

Iran Focus:

Stone-throwing Iranian students fought police and Islamic vigilantes on Wednesday in protest against restrictions imposed by the government of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, witnesses said.
Students who covered their faces with scarves lit fires outside dormitories through Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, photographs showed. By dawn the streets were littered with hundreds of stones they had thrown.
Deputy Tehran Governor Abdollah Roshan told the ISNA students news agency 40 policemen and four students had been injured. He said the police had arrested six people.
Senior student leader Abdollah Momeni said up to 2,000 students had gathered for the protest over the expulsion of some students and the way authorities had been handling critics.
He added 20 had been seized by Islamic vigilantes who broke into the dormitories.
"The main reason for the objections in recent days goes back to the limitations imposed on universities and political students after the new government came to power," Momeni said.

Gateway Pundit is following the story closely.

UPDATE: More info here (thanks to Agent Meatball)

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May 23, 2006

Iran Shuts Down Newspapers

Iran has closed down another newspaper after a cartoon depicting the Azeri as cockroaches caused rioting. The report says the rioting took place in the northwest part of Iran. There has been quite a bit of unrest there as the Iranian Kurds also have been resisting there with help from Iraqi Kurds. The conflict between the Iran and the Kurds even resulted in reports of cross border incursions and shelling into Iraq by Iranian government forces.

Seattle PI : TEHRAN, Iran -- The government closed one of the country's top three newspapers Tuesday, detaining its editor and cartoonist for publishing a caricature that caused members of Iran's Azeri minority to riot in protest.
State television reported that the Press Supervisory Body had closed the state-owned newspaper Iran "due to its publication of divisive and provocative materials."
The closure was indefinite, the television reported. It was the first time a newspaper had been banned since President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad took office last year.
On Friday, the Farsi-language newspaper published a cartoon showing a cockroach speaking Azeri, the language of an ethnic group in northwestern Iranâ€¦
â€¦Iran's conservative judiciary has closed more than 100 newspapers, mostly pro-reform, since 2000. Tuesday's closure, however, came from the Press Supervisory Body, not the judges.

Thatâ€™s and average of 20 newspapers closed per year since 2000. Iran, the international beacon of intellectual freedom and expression. Ha! More like an example of how to crush freedom with Islamic rule in ten years or less.

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May 20, 2006

Iranian Uniform Law Update

As promised more follow-up on yesterday's post about the Iranian religious clothing issue.

This is Amir Taheri of Canadaâ€™s National Post Article on the â€œIranian Uniform Lawâ€ published yesterday. Despite the fact there is some confusion about exactly what the lawâ€™s results will be, it is none the less disturbing given even a best case scenario.(quoet move to extended entry)

Others following include Power Line, Little Green Footballs and Allah at Hot Air who points out that I missed this article, it was part of the original two published yesterday. Hey, I can't be everywhere. We're not all Blog Gods like he is.

Some "informed" bloggers think(cough) because some of the details were wrong, this excuses the fact the pending law is oppressive even without those provisions. more...

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1 Taheri's article was posted yesterday morning along with the main story by Chris Wattie. We've got updates on the whole story over at Hot Air.

Posted by: Allah at May 20, 2006 11:16 AM (CbBW/)

2 Nazi germany is reborn (wake up world)! these SOBs are crazy.

Posted by: wow at May 20, 2006 11:28 AM (sR1yi)

3 Some of the "details" were wrong? Are you insane?
The claim that Jews would have to wear yellow arm bands was wrong. You call that just a "detail"?
Keep drinking your koolaid with the rest of the rightwing war-mongering idiots.

Posted by: Sean Morris at May 20, 2006 12:01 PM (uem9R)

4 Dan Rather is sure looking good this morning, in comparison to the RW blogworld...

Posted by: Observer at May 20, 2006 12:23 PM (lI3TA)

5 so you guys are Ok with the other provistions of the the Law? Like forcing woment to wear this or that and the national properm Muslim attire thing. And religious police makign sure you pray five times a day. Nice to know you agree with the other provisions of the bill.

Posted by: Howie at May 20, 2006 12:27 PM (D3+20)

6 " If dogs run free ... " .....

" Right " must be imposed or else the masses spin out of control and run rampant.

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 20, 2006 12:52 PM (FCC6c)

7 There is no blog god but Allah...

Hey, Sean, you simpering fucknozzle, unlike you whiny little bitches, when we make a mistake, we correct it.

Now, strap on your bomb belt and get over there and help your brother Abu Musab al Zarqawi out.

Posted by: Vinnie at May 20, 2006 02:06 PM (/qy9A)

8 And BTW, anyone seen Karl Rove being frog-marched out of the White House yet?

Talk about running with a rumor. At least this story has basis in fact.

Posted by: Vinnie at May 20, 2006 02:22 PM (/qy9A)

9 Guess New Orleans would be good a place as any to die .. though I don't think I'd want to die at the North Pole ..

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 20, 2006 08:11 PM (FCC6c)

10 The Nazi-badge story appears to have been started by Iranian exiles on May 19, and picked up by media organizations the next day.

http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_15716.shtml

Regardless of the merit of holding contempt for the Mullahs, printing falsehoods will only serve to discredit the opposition. And you know who that serves. One thing I like is Persian Journal's campaign against "Arabization" of Iran. In his Religions and Philosophies in Central Asia, Gobineau speculates on the rise of a new logic chopping servant class, after the conquest by Arab savages.

Posted by: EarthPapa at May 20, 2006 11:04 PM (w5I2J)

11 As usual, the leftards jump in to proclaim Nothing to see here, move along! whenever their muslim terrorist friends do something stupid, which is pretty much every day. Our initial reaction was outrage; theirs was to scramble to apologise and debunk the story. The story's veracity isn't as important to them as the need for damage control.
It becomes a little more plain every day whose side they're on, and it isn't ours. Liberals have taken the side of every psychopathic murderer for the last hundred years, and they're no different today. They should be our allies against a common enemy, but they want us to lose. They are traitors. An enemy is one thing, but a traitor is another; it is as true now as it was two thousand years ago when Cicero wrote about them. There is only one reasonable solution.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 21, 2006 07:41 AM (0yYS2)

12 IM,

correct. The Libs are wiping their brows in relief that the part about badging the Jews is false because what a headache that would be having to damage control that one!

But notice how crickets chirping about the true part of the story where the religious police are going to enforce a dress code for women. No damage control possible on that one, so ignore it and hope nobody notices.

What a joke these Turd worlders have made of Libs. Defending the intolerable just because it comes from the Turd world brown people has turned Liberalism into a shell of its former self.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 21, 2006 10:08 AM (8e/V4)

13 It seems the right blogsphere's new slogan is, make it short, make in snappy and make it up.

You fell for it, that's the amazing thing.

Posted by: Sonic at May 21, 2006 08:36 PM (Gsn6c)

14 This was not in any sense a sufficient admission of error. You said some details were wrong. Someone called you on that, and you say "So, you support the law?"

The core of your posting was debunked. Admit it, and move on. Don't spin it.

Posted by: jd at May 21, 2006 09:53 PM (GZdxw)

15 So sonic and jd, you consider this a victory, don't you? It will be fun when TSHTF and I get to lay hands on idiots like you two.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 22, 2006 05:11 AM (0yYS2)

16 Anyone who believes Christians are not persecuted in Iran is a fucking idiot. Just try being a Christian and apply for a governmnet job.

Posted by: greyrooster at May 22, 2006 06:13 AM (J4a4p)

17 I saw it and posted on it. I reported as best I could what I knew as I knew it (with feeling). What else would you have me do?

Posted by: Howie at May 22, 2006 07:27 AM (D3+20)

18 It's not like I could have predicted beforehand it would take off.

Posted by: Howie at May 22, 2006 07:30 AM (Wv9NJ)

19 You leftards miss the point. "Visual equality" for Muslims requires easily discernable clothing for infidels. Wouldn't want to accidently shake hands with the "unclean".
If THE JOOS had to wear yellow clothing and not a Star-of-David in Iran, would that make it OK?

Posted by: KobeClan at May 22, 2006 07:35 AM (iJmNW)

20 I guess what this leftard would want is this: if you post something that turns out to be not true, that you say that. Instead, you resembled Mike McCurry, circa 1998, spinning, changing the subject.

No, I don't consider this a victory. And no, I don't think Christians in Iran are treated well. They are treated BETTER than Bahais and the few remaining Jews and the atheists and the homosexuals, but they face extraordinary social and legal discrimination.

There are so many reasons to hate the Mullahs that we don't need to promulgate stories that are false. This was created by Iranian exiles that pray for us to invade. America fell for that crap from the Iraqi National Congress and Chalabi in 2002-3. We don't need to fall for it again.

And IM, seriously--get help. I think everyone here can see that you have unresolved anger issues. You could go postal at any time.

Posted by: jd at May 22, 2006 09:11 AM (GZdxw)

21 jd: Just a warm wind blowing. IM has passion. Winners have passion. Losers are luke warm at best.

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May 19, 2006

Iran to Mark Non-Muslims Clothing.

So you thought my comparison of the Nazis led by Adolph Hitler and Iranâ€™s ruling government led by President Ahmadinejad was a bit far fetched? Think Again!

Free Republic : Human rights groups are raising alarms over a new law passed by the Iranian parliament that would require the country's Jews and Christians to wear coloured badges to identify them and other religious minorities as non-Muslims.
"This is reminiscent of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. "Iran is moving closer and closer to the ideology of the Nazis."
Iranian expatriates living in Canada yesterday confirmed reports that the Iranian parliament, called the Islamic Majlis, passed a law this week setting a dress code for all Iranians, requiring them to wear almost identical "standard Islamic garments."
The law, which must still be approved by Iran's "Supreme Guide" Ali Khamenehi before being put into effect, also establishes special insignia to be worn by non-Muslims.
Iran's roughly 25,000 Jews would have to sew a yellow strip of cloth on the front of their clothes, while Christians would wear red badges and Zoroastrians would be forced to wear blue cloth.
"There's no reason to believe they won't pass this," said Rabbi Hier. "It will certainly pass unless there's some sort of international outcry over this."

I know, Iran can save help out their budget by adopting the old Nazi patches. They are hip, already designed and cheap to make, Then force non-Muslims to buy them as a Dhimmi tax. This Islamic rule thingy is like Nazism for Dummies.

Hat Tip: Son of the Godfather.

Update : Some say this is not in the law. The Original story is here.

From the Jerusalem Post : The Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations released a statement saying, "We have been seeking to clarify these reports but do not yet have confirmation. There are clear indications that various Iranian government agencies, including the Ministry of Commerce and Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance, are working on new uniforms to be introduced in the fall.
"While such legislation would be reminiscent of dark periods in the past, like the Nazi era when Jews and others had to wear identifying badges, it is also consistent with the racist and extremist ideology propagated by President Ahmadinejad.
We are monitoring the situation and seeking to ascertain the facts in order to determine the appropriate response."

Allahpundit is keeping us updated.

Debka Via Allahpundit at Hot Air : However, the law has not been finally enacted, and speakers in the majlis debate proposed that non-Muslim minorities be made to wear distinctive clothes, yellow being the preferred color for Jews.
The bill in question aims primarily at countering the revolt against black Muslim dressâ€ as the hot summer approaches and Iranians â€“ especially women - take to light clothing. At the end of the majlis debate, the final draft will be put to the vote; with or without the proposed discriminatory clauses remains to be seen.

So the law is only to further regulate the dress of Muslims with proposals to designate Jews and other minorities. That is rather oppressive in itself for Muslims subject to this â€œIslamic State Dress Codeâ€. But I guess if Iran oppresses itâ€™s own people thatâ€™s just OK. Imagine if our president asked for a strict conservative Christian national Dress code? Also it seems if Muslims are â€œin uniformâ€ it gets pretty easy to tell who â€œthe othersâ€ are. Including Muslims who resist this mandate. The fact that this proposal was even made speaks volumes.

Breaking : The latest report on this issue from The National Post here. more...

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1 Hitler got that idea first from Omar ibn al-Khattab, the second Caliph. After a four month siege of Jerusalem in 638 AD, the christian and jewish population finally capitulated to the Arabs and handed over control of the city.

In exchange for their lives and religious identity, the jews and christians agreed to an archaine set of segregation laws, commonly known as the "Pact of Omar." One of the provisions was that they had to wear a yellow sash in public known as the zunar. Later in the 9th century, it was later changed to a yellow star of david, and a yellow cross.

Some believe that Hitler's friend, the grand mufti Al-Husseini of Jerusalem in the 1930's gave him the idea. Also, don't you remember how the Taliban used to do this to hindus in Afghanistan? I'm suprised the current rule in Iran didn't come into effect earlier!

Posted by: Jimmy the Dhimmi at May 19, 2006 07:23 AM (RIPcF)

2 Thanks for the Hat Tip!...

Too bad I had to get it for sending info on signs of another impending holocaust, but hey, I'll take what I can get.

I hope the U.N. sends another strongly-worded letter.

Posted by: Son Of The Godfather at May 19, 2006 07:31 AM (maXzk)

3 Nazism + Islamism = Scary

Posted by: pka at May 19, 2006 07:41 AM (OkeOq)

4 Nazism + Scary = Islamism

Posted by: Son Of The Godfather at May 19, 2006 07:49 AM (maXzk)

5 So where's the best place in Israel to establish a beachhead after these freaks overrun the Middle East while the Euros just stand by watching idly? What's he best day of the month to run a used tire drive? History will repeat itself because certain people are doomed to forget it within less than 100 years.

Posted by: Ernie Oporto at May 19, 2006 08:13 AM (/lpvu)

6 I think comparing the Nazis to these Islamofascists is unfair. I mean, the Nazis dressed much better than these mullahs ...

Posted by: ProCynic at May 19, 2006 08:20 AM (bfkgE)

7 Has anyone considered that this story is false? The original story that reported this was the National Post (canadian newspaper) and all other sources have referred to that. Well anyway the National Post cited only Iranians in Canada as a source for this. And they could have been MEK or just misinformed. $.02

Posted by: Sohrab at May 19, 2006 08:49 AM (8zuVw)

8 Jimmy the dhimmi is right. We should compare Hitler to islam, not Ahmadinejad to Hitler. Dhimmitude is as old as islam itself.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 19, 2006 08:53 AM (8e/V4)

9 Well, Germany has picked it up too and Iranian officials refuse to comment on it.

Posted by: Oyster at May 19, 2006 09:07 AM (QQzPp)

10 It's probably true. This nutcase in charge of Iran will even be worse than Hitler given the opportunity. I'm sure the EU will step up to the plate, and if not the EU, then surely the UN will want to set things right.

And there is a tooth fairy, and a Santa Clause, and an Easter Bunny.....

Posted by: jesusland joe at May 19, 2006 09:16 AM (rUyw4)

11 If today was April Fools Day, I wouldn't believe this. I had to look this up on Google news to see if this wasn't BS.

Posted by: Kevin Spade at May 19, 2006 09:20 AM (CnDtU)

12 We must boycott Chotchkies!!!!! NO MORE FLARES!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Kevin Spade at May 19, 2006 09:21 AM (CnDtU)

13 Just like Hitler, Iran's leader will one day meet the same fate...

Posted by: Tom at May 19, 2006 09:32 AM (FKR2r)

14 The alliance between the left and Islam is a strange one.
Well lefties, are you selling out 25,000 Jews for peace in our time? The pink star canâ€™t be too far behind.

Posted by: Brad at May 19, 2006 09:40 AM (BJYNn)

15 Boys over here, girls over there, the yellow star, the yellow cross, the pink star, and soon the red Communist star - everybody gets one, it's like Kindergarten!
The Left is so bound up in blind hatred for the West, it just doesn't get it.

Posted by: -keith in silicon valley at May 19, 2006 09:59 AM (pmP8H)

16 Based on the past I think this is another attempt for Iran to change the subject from thier nuclear ambitions.

Posted by: Tom at May 19, 2006 10:15 AM (FKR2r)

17 Why isn't the President doing something about this ? It is like his promise ffor the last 6 years on Dahfur to save the christians there. I hope people aren't going to hope for the democrats to do anything, they are not in power.

Posted by: john ryan at May 19, 2006 11:35 AM (TcoRJ)

18 Sohab: I suppose since I posted on it we'll follow up to see how this shakes out. Seems to be enough interest that it will get looked at. It's called blogging.

Posted by: Howie at May 19, 2006 12:03 PM (D3+20)

19 Wow,

The Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians, and Atheists in Iran must have done something really terrible to inspire such hate.

Maybe if they just agonize over what it is that they did, apologize profusely, then stop doing it, they can make peace with the people they have antagonized.

Posted by: Randall at May 19, 2006 12:06 PM (xjzyI)

20 >>> I hope people aren't going to hope for the democrats to do anything, they are not in power.

Ain't that convenient. Democrats can lobby for everything from rights for Gitmo detainees, gay marriage, the right to have an abortion, to environmental issues. But persecution of Jews and Christians? Hey, there's certainly nothing they could do there. Nuh uh. Sorry.

Posted by: Graeme at May 19, 2006 12:12 PM (/sm6B)

21 john ryan,

when you offer up silly comments like that you demonstrate your intellectual dishonesty. And if you have no credibility, why even bother commenting at all. How can Liberals be the "intellectuals" if you can't even offer up intellectually honest and credible argumentation. Sometimes you sound no better than middle schoolers in your comments.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 19, 2006 12:20 PM (8e/V4)

22 This story is already being debunked. Yes, I'm a left-winger, but please consider that the National Post is notoriously right-wing and that there has been no independent confirmation of this story. It doesn't serve the right-wing blogosphere well to jump on the hysteria band-wagon without first confirming the veracity of these claims.

Posted by: liberal catnip at May 19, 2006 12:40 PM (BJI+K)

23

This story is FALSE.

http://gaelicstarover.blogspot.com/2006/05/more-libel-against-iran.html

Posted by: Daithi at May 19, 2006 01:09 PM (+xCii)

24 "The Iranian people would never stand for it. The Iranian government wouldn't be stupid enough to do it."

Catnip: I hope it isn't true, but you have to admit it's not hard to believe with the new wave of Iranian nationalism and the Iranian Parliament's rescinding of any advances made during the last Presidency. Before Ahmadinejad took office many women were wearing western clothes and the scarves covering their hair were getting smaller and smaller. Now they've gone backwards and pushed women back to wearing the hijab. There have been more instances of women being beaten in the street by police, Taliban style, for showing an arm or an ankle. things certtainly aren't getting better there. They're getting worse.

Posted by: Oyster at May 19, 2006 01:22 PM (QQzPp)

25 Oyster,

I'm extremely concerned about the fate of all people in Iran and the rantings of their president, who is clearly unstable. This is a very sensitive situation that must be treated with caution and I think the west must proceed with as much transparency as possible so that we are able to determine the best course of action to help the Iranian people.

Posted by: catnip at May 19, 2006 01:42 PM (BJI+K)

26 They especially would be less likely to do it now. People are looking.

If it turns out false (or withdrawn), then blogs did a good thing with the upward pressure. We'll see.

Posted by: Howie at May 19, 2006 01:45 PM (D3+20)

27 Howie:
is that the equivalent of the "fake but accurate" stance?
I doubt right now Iran would back down from anything, if this doesn't occur -- then it's because it was a fake story.

Posted by: davec at May 19, 2006 01:57 PM (CcXvt)

28 Yeah, and that Iranian president says people against his nuclear ambitions are mentally insane. He's the mentally insane one.

Posted by: RepJ at May 19, 2006 02:06 PM (y6n8O)

29 Ok, the story is probably false. Of course, under the Mary Mapes/Dan Rather school of journalism the burden would be on the Iranians to prove the story false, not us to prove it true.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 19, 2006 02:15 PM (8e/V4)

30 Never hurts to keep an extra eye on the nutty ones. So far as I can tell there is some kind of law about dress. There are reports that these things are a possible interpretation,

One guy says it's wrong some other ones say it's right. Laws are open to interpretaion and regulation/policy as well. Who knows what's possible with that nut.

Iran being a relatively closed place doesn't help. Prove to me it's not. If he didn't act like a nut people wouldn't need to worry. I'll look for the actual result we all should. does anyone have a copy?

Posted by: Howie at May 19, 2006 02:28 PM (D3+20)

31 Now's a good time to start bombing. Let's light up the skies over Tehran. We're already over there, let's keep going.

Posted by: Garner at May 19, 2006 03:44 PM (x7v0S)

32 Yeah! We're doing so good mopping up in Iraq we ought to storm on through to Iran! BTW get used to soon seeing road signs in Spanish/English. Damnbushsty

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 19, 2006 04:13 PM (FCC6c)

33 So if there is a proper Mulsim uniform are non muslims forbidden/not required to wear the same or different. Same general effect. You know who is who just by looking.

Posted by: Howie at May 19, 2006 04:27 PM (D3+20)

34 The original National Post story has now disappeared.

Posted by: catnip at May 19, 2006 06:19 PM (AEI/3)

35 And how long will it be until they build the concentration camps,gas chambers and creamatoriums as well?

Posted by: sandpiper at May 19, 2006 07:34 PM (XLUG2)

36 JESUSLAND CARLOS WINS THIS ONE:
Personally, I think, if true, even the sick libs will come to realize what the Muslim nuts are about.
I still think we should attack tomorrow and load our shells with pig shit. Only, this time, no occupation please. Lets not give a shit about rebuilding their infrastructure. If they don't have electricity it will keep them out of trouble.

Posted by: greyrooster at May 19, 2006 07:47 PM (AWtJU)

37 rooster,

if the story were true the Libs would find some way to justify it or wrack their brains trying to find some equivalency here in the West or Israel. Lucky for them it's probably fraudulent so they don't have to twist themselves into knots like they do for so many other despicable things coming out of that part of the world.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 19, 2006 08:32 PM (8e/V4)

38 Oh, of course it must be false. Because their leader is always saying how cool he is with jews, and stuff like that..... uh, wait .... The bottom line? This story may or may not be true, but it is entirely consistent with everything he's ever said and done. Despite my healthy skepticism, I'm coming to beleive this guy is every bit as dangerous as he's made out to be.

Didn't the 9-11 commission note that we had a hard time beleiving people who said they were going to do certain things might actually act on their threats?

All of these people trying to do in-depth analysis on statements coming from Iran might be missing the point -- Perhaps they mean exactly what they say.

Posted by: fleabag at May 19, 2006 08:49 PM (kAJFM)

39 As of apx 11PM EST, I have not been able to verify any aspect of this story - which is why I kept quiet. Appears to be a hoax - or more to the point - someone(s) jerking our chain reference Iran. I don't like being played with either by the lib/left or some fringe dickhead right faction with their own axe to grind.

Posted by: hondo at May 19, 2006 08:54 PM (SeBrl)

40 Howie and All,

Here's some info that may help. See these two posts on my site. See the caveat from Kenneth Timmerman re Mr. Kermanian may have a conflict of interest.

Also I caught Dr. Zin catching a plane by phone and he gave me some info to pass on.
RBT

*****

Update III:

Kenneth Timmerman just posted these updates to his original post:

UPI reported from Tehran that the Majles passed the law this week."This law recalls the Holocaust immediately to mind when Jews were forced to wear distinctive yellow Stars of David on their clothes," said American Jewish Congress Executive Director Neil Goldstein.

[...]

Sam Kermanian, of the Iranian Jewish Federation in Los Angeles, urged Jewish activists to caution in a mass email today. "So far the two reports we managed to obtain from our own independent sources from inside the country suggest that the original reports are false," he wrote. "Both Mr. Morris Motamed the Jewish member of the Iranian Parliament and Mr Parviz Yeshaya the former head of the community have strongly denied the reports."

Stay tuned....

Note: Mr. Kermanian has acknowledged to FDI that he currently does business in Tehran, but says that he has received a "waiver" from the Treasury Department to sanction his commercial activities.

www.iran.org

*****

Dr. Zin is on this story and will updating shortly

RBT just got off the phone with Dr. Zin of Regime Change Iran who was about to board a plane to return home from DC. He said he will be posting further on this story when he gets back home.

Dr. Zin said he first learned of this in 2004. Dr. Zin' sources have said until recently this has been in the context of a discussion on an Islamic appropriate dress code. The last he heard was it was't in writing but was making it's way through the lower levels of what serves as the Irainian legislative process. [ed note: A stacked deck :--)]

Dr. Zin said the President Ahmadinejad is in support of this dress code. Dr. Zin doesn't know if there is enough agreement to pass and implement it.

Stay tuned as Kenneth Timmerman said . . .

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Posted by: rocketsbrain at May 19, 2006 09:42 PM (eiDrK)

41 Howie said:

"So if there is a proper Mulsim uniform are non muslims forbidden/not required to wear the same or different. Same general effect. You know who is who just by looking."

Good point, perhaps the cloth marking each individual faith is an exaggeration of the original story, but like you said, if the "Muslim uniform" part of the story is true, it would have the same effect as it is unlikely the non-Muslims would be wearing it. I guess we'll see as more details emerge.

It too, is important that we verify these details, as we do not want to set a bad precedent.

Posted by: LC CanForce 101 at May 19, 2006 10:13 PM (BRXB/)

42 Dahfur my ass. We stick our noses in there and all we get is another 200,000 black refugees on welfare. We have plenty in New Orleans already.

Posted by: greyrooster at May 19, 2006 10:19 PM (AWtJU)

43 Anywhere we try to help we are slapped in the face and our smoking corpses dragged through the streets.

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 19, 2006 10:55 PM (FCC6c)

44 this is either good right-wing spin or a terrible faux-pas by the mullocracy. If it's true, this will be stirring up a hornets nest in Germany. Of all people; they know and feel the guilt over this one.
j

Posted by: james at May 20, 2006 02:57 AM (ZqOEI)

45 As several commenters have said, this story is a fake.

Posted by: Greg at May 20, 2006 07:54 AM (q5wwn)

46 Hitler was the man, too bad he didn't get to finish

Posted by: Bob the Racist at May 20, 2006 02:14 PM (aYuiN)

47 You guys were quick off the mark spreading the latest "look they really are the Nazis!" slur. I guarantee this drivel will be quoted on right wing blogs as fact for the next 5 years.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060519/wl_mideast_afp/iranrightsreligion_060519200726

Golly, Iran has a jewish MP, who knew? Maybe this "black ops" slur will have a positive effect.

Posted by: Brian Coughlan at May 21, 2006 10:09 AM (JFJVR)

48 Yes but just how much influence do minority MP's have ove the mullahs?

That's blogging you never know when you post just what a story is going to do. I found this on a MSM source. I do my best to use MSM sources. Af far as how blogs work one this started gaining exposure the giant auto research team was on the case. On or two people can find stuff. Post it and within 24 hourse enough informations was dug up on it. You win a few you loose a few. I'd rather that we did post it and find out what is really going on.

I think overall the blogs did well considering it's a bunch of "citzen jouralists" discussing. We are quick and sometimes too quick It happens on blogs two minutes is too late. I've picked up three stories off MSM sites int eh last month that blogs played a role in finding the truth. It takes a few hours but bloggers will figure it out.

As a single person I can do a bit of research or call attention to a story. After that a bunch more peole put in thier two cents worth and you have somthing. I'm not upset with the liberals for exposing the parts that were questionable. I'm glad they did. Otherwise I would be misled. Both sides have the same problem. The Rove issue comes to mind. They wanted Rove so bad tehy jumped the gun a bit. But seems by now thye have corrected. I saw the guy post about his mistake yesterday. No problem with it. He tried and that's all you can do.

Posted by: Howie at May 21, 2006 10:52 AM (D3+20)

49 The law has passed i know for a fact im iranian, but i dont agree with it and i dont condemn islam either i condemn those who are using this religion to show further discrimination of jews, christians or zorastrians. The president has no power, he is merely a frontman for those who have a bigger hand in this issue. I believe the best thing would be to put pressure on the president but not from U.S., that's the worst thing they could do. The pressure should come from the UN and protests from the young and hopefully one day, there will be a new revolution and the people can take back their beautiful Iran.

Posted by: Yalda at May 21, 2006 11:23 AM (EPNYG)

50 So how do you know that for sure? Jut asking as you are in the US?

Posted by: Howie at May 21, 2006 12:48 PM (D3+20)

51 Better get the revolution underway while there's still time before the first round of nukes arrive ...

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 21, 2006 02:50 PM (FCC6c)

52 >>>I guarantee this drivel will be quoted on right wing blogs as fact for the next 5 years.

This is a rigtwing blog and that story didn't last even one day. So much for your guarantee.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 21, 2006 03:43 PM (8e/V4)

53 I wonder how it would have turned out if Last gasp Larry had latched on to a different blog, one more in line with his views. Discovering the world of blogging, like a desperate sap-sucking parasite Last gasp Larry clings on for dear life to the very first victim that came up in his google search, never entertaining even for a moment the idea of moving on to a different host. Fate happens, I guess!

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 21, 2006 05:06 PM (FCC6c)

54 Yalda was full of crap, most everyone here got tooled. I'm tired of b.s. artist iranian expats wanting the states to fight their wars, grow a pair and do your own bleeding. I know an iranian, all he wants to do is hump abdul's sister, play some ball and don't give a crap about what goes on in iran. Also know too many nut-job iranians, call themselves persians like that makes any difference, who want to abuse the privelage of living here to get this country to fight their civil war. Abdul says drop dead. We got tooled by the iraqis , we ain't falling for it again. Abdul says we'll be an example, but you lazy turds got to be the cannon fodder.

Posted by: abdul at May 23, 2006 12:55 AM (T4Bto)

55 Well said Abdul. This bullshit of our boys dying for other peoples freedom is crap. They don't appreciate it anyway.

Posted by: greyrooster at May 25, 2006 08:22 PM (pzM6K)

56 THIS STORY IS FAKE! Shame on you! How much warmongering propoganda b.s. can you swallow over and over? Find those WMD yet?

Posted by: andy at May 26, 2006 01:37 PM (vyv+w)

57 Yes, this story is fake! I can't believe what you guys believe. You insite a country that was (pre Bush/Sharon) headed toward a democracy, and follow stories like this one created by the PR firm Benador Associates. Why do you allow this generated news in the right wing? It just shows how legit your stories are...not at all. If you want to continue in the footsteps of England's conquest of Iran, then just say so. Who ran it, cut off Kuwait from Iraq and had originally colonized Palestine? God save the Queen...right USA?
FAke Fake Fake Fake Fake...Look it up.

Posted by: Cliche at May 31, 2006 01:18 PM (/ceAN)

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May 17, 2006

Mahmoud Wants An Answer

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TEHRAN, Iran -
Iran's president mocked a package of incentives to suspend uranium enrichment, saying Wednesday they were like giving up gold for chocolate â€” defiance that appeared certain to complicate U.S. efforts to curb Tehran's nuclear ambitions.
"Do you think you are dealing with a 4-year-old child to whom you can give some walnuts and chocolates and get gold from him?" President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad asked derisively.

Feel free to give your own answer to Mahmoud's question. Be sure it's derisive.

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1 Apparently, America and the EU do.

Posted by: MiB at May 17, 2006 10:34 PM (B9sDR)

2 Why, yes, we do. And as an added bonus, we think you are a 4 year old girl, which means that since diamonds aren't involved to complicate the decision, you would gladly give up the gold for the chocolate.

Posted by: Kermit at May 17, 2006 10:37 PM (SPYnx)

3 its time to take this guy out!!!

Posted by: josh at May 17, 2006 11:00 PM (MGRcs)

4 "its time to take this guy out!!!
I can't yet entirely agree, Josh. I agree he's dangerous, and keeping a close eye is definitely needed. But, we don't want to rush into any aggressive aspects until we have no other choices. Unfortunately, I think that in a few months we (US, Israel, EU, etc...) will not have any reasonable diplomatic solutions left.

We can't rush into attacks, but we MUST keep them a viable option...expect the best, but prepare for the worst.

Posted by: The Gentle Cricket at May 17, 2006 11:22 PM (USZUJ)

5 Only a four-year-old would pay attention to such stupidity!

Hey, wait, the crowd he was speaking to...

Hmmm...

sugiero

Posted by: sugiero at May 18, 2006 04:54 AM (WFtxm)

6 Child, no.

Lunatic, YES!

Posted by: Fred Fry at May 18, 2006 05:53 AM (JXdhy)

7 Gentle Cricket in 2 months:

Allright! That's the last straw! Send in the troops! Get that little inbred punk bastard!

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 18, 2006 06:44 AM (FCC6c)

8 President Bush to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad:

PSSST!!!...Mahmoud, over here!!!!
Son, I ainâ€™t talkin walnuts or chocolate, no sir, I got something much better.
I have here a container of PEZ. Itâ€™s the tangy grape flavor you love so much with the collectorâ€™s edition Sean Penn PEZ dispenser thrown in.
Thatâ€™s right, slide the Nuklar Material over here, Iâ€™m pushing the PEZ across the table. On three, I grab the Enriched Uranium, you grab the PEZ. One...Two...Three.......

Posted by: Brad at May 18, 2006 07:38 AM (BJYNn)

9 We are deers in the headlights...frozen in fear...whenever our collective attention turns towards Iran. Mahmoud, the wily coyote that he is, obviously intends this.

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at May 18, 2006 08:59 AM (aH6Zf)

10 If only we WERE dealing with a 4-year-old child, we wouldn't have to deal with a stupid jihad.

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May 10, 2006

Smackdown in Iran - Khamenei Vetoes Ahmadinejad

(Tehran) Last month, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared that women will be allowed in sports stadiums as spectators for the first time since the 1979 Revolution. Ahmadinejad said that women and families should be allowed in public places to promote chastity.

Unfortunately, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has the final word on matters of state and he disagrees.

From ArabNews.com:

"Iran's supreme leader has instructed the government to consider the religious leaders' views and reverse its decision (on letting women into stadiums)," government spokesman Gholamhossein Elham told a news conference. "The government will act based on this instruction," he said.

Therefore, despite all his media-hogging bluster and belligerent declarations, Ahmadinejad is nothing more than a marionette for Ali Khamenei. Of course, a prudent observer is not surprised.

From Interested-Participant.

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1 Thats a pitty, I already enjoint myself in anticipation of seeing:
"Burga cheerleaers"!

Posted by: Dan at May 10, 2006 06:17 AM (Z2OsI)

2 Man, thatâ€™s harsh.
In my neck of the woods, women in the Seattle Archdiocese are sometimes required to attend Seattle Marinerâ€™s games as penance. It usually involves a few Hail Maryâ€™s and watching Gil Meche pitch a gem that has him leaving the game with no one out in the top of the 4th having thrown 110 pitches.

Posted by: Brad at May 10, 2006 08:58 AM (Ffvoi)

3 The weirdest thing about all this is that none of this holy mumbo jumbo bizarro version of islam is native to Iran/Persia. The Persians I've known are cool people with a long proud history that dwarfs islam, and especially the arab version of it.

All this is weird ... this whole Iran thing just doesn't add up.

Posted by: hondo at May 10, 2006 09:35 AM (SeBrl)

4 Mike,

I'm confused.

Does this story suggest that Ahmadinejad's power is circumscribed, and therefore his rants about wiping Israel from the pages of history are not to be taken seriously?

Or do they indicate that, at the end of the day, Ahmadinejad's actions must be approved by Khamenei, in which case, the absence of correctives to his comments means that he, in fact, speaks for Khamenei and company when he threatens Israel (and talks about nukes, etc.)?

Posted by: Lurking Observer at May 10, 2006 10:10 AM (/ZD7V)

5 Interesting thing - Iran has had 6 presidents. The first two were western in appearance. The first one was impeached and the second one was assassinated within weeks of taking office. The next three were bearded, turbin-wearing, ayatollah-looking guys who were elected and then re-elected. By this measure Ahmadinnerjacket should either be impeached or assassinated any time now.

One can hope, eh?

Posted by: Oyster at May 10, 2006 12:04 PM (lMr74)

6 LO - My take is that Ahmadinejad must be taken seriously, however, it's apparent that he is unable to act without approval from the mufti. Metaphorically, he's a president on a leash.

Posted by: Mike at May 10, 2006 11:28 PM (INGRQ)

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May 09, 2006

Ahmadinejad Letter Found

The 'real' letter from Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejadhas to George W. Bush has been found. Click and then scroll down.

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May 03, 2006

Regime Change Iran

Yesterday I saw this interview with the Reza Pahlavi, son of the late Shah of Iran. He says he is working to topple the Islamist Government of Iran through massive labor demonstrations. He says he seeks to create a new Democratic state there.

Human Events Online : Reza Pahlavi, son of the late Shah of Iran, told the editors of HUMAN EVENTS last week that in the next two to three months he hopes to finalize the organization of a movement aimed at overthrowing the Islamic regime in Tehran and replacing it with a democratic government.
He believes the cause is urgent because of the prospect that Iran may soon develop a nuclear weapon or the U.S. may use military force to preempt that. He hopes to offer a way out of this dilemma: a revolution sparked by massive civil disobedience in which the masses in the streets are backed by elements of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
Pahlavi, who lives in exile in the United States, said he has been in contact with elements of the Revolutionary Guard that would be willing to play such a role, and activists who could help spark the civil disobedience.
He also said that the U.S. and other governments can help by imposing â€œsmart sanctionsâ€ on the leaders of Iranian regime, but he categorically opposes U.S. military intervention...
...You think you can exploit this to turn some elements of the Revolutionary Guards against the regime?
Yes, for a number of reasons. Because like in any totalitarian system, they know that at the end theyâ€™ll fall. The question is, how do they negotiate their exit strategy? No. 2 is because a lot of their families are not as wealthy as we think. There are some preferred ones, but many are still having to make ends meet. We have ranked officers who have to drive taxicabs at three oâ€™clock in the morning, as a major or colonel returning from base, because they donâ€™t have enough money to pay the rent. The disenchantment is there.
So what you see happening is a general strike, people going into the streets, refusing to work, calling for the overthrow of the regime, and then their being backedâ€”?
Sustained. Sustained.
And then being sustained by significant elements of the Revolutionary Guards who say, â€œYouâ€™re goneâ€?
And Iâ€™m talking about a blitzkrieg of media supporting, like the BBC did before the revolution, which was practically announcing the night before where there would be a demonstration the next day. This is not myth, it is fact.

Are you in contact with some of the commanders of these [elements]?

Absolutely. Absolutely. And in fact, they keep on saying that we are being under-utilized, we have a role to play, we know the time for it, but we cannot just take the initiative. They are in No Manâ€™s Land. You have to understand.

I was skeptical but labor unrest in Iran was reported on the very same day this interview was released. I think itâ€™s an avenue worth supporting. Of course the problem is the American imperialism/meddling perception(might as well bring it up they will). But we can work from within. If this man is correct in that support for the Mullahs is as superficial as he claims. In fact get this man in and Iran can build all the reactors its wants because the threat of misuse is removed.

Hat Tip: Different River at Wizbang.

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1 There can be no question that the IRGC would be the focus of staggering blows in the event of hostilities.

Our man has to be concerned about agents provocateur.

Hooking up with 'friends' in the IRGC is VERY dicy.

I'd say he's being played by the mullahs.

Posted by: blert at May 03, 2006 09:48 AM (QJXLf)

2 Regime change in your own eye ... then you can see clearly to regime change in your neighbor's eye ...

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 03, 2006 10:24 AM (FCC6c)

3 Ooh good one so we should trade a Democratic Republic for.....?

Posted by: Howie at May 03, 2006 10:37 AM (D3+20)

4 I have to wonder how much support the son of the Shah actually has in Iran.

Posted by: Ted at May 03, 2006 10:41 AM (blNMI)

5 I wondered that too but I've seen several reports that the polulation is not so pleased that the economic progress the Mullah's promised, never came. Especially in rural areas. So I think the question is how much support does the Theocracy there really have privately? I think this guy would be seen as an American Pawn but supporting the labor unrest there can't hurt. That's the rub how to support positive change from within without being seen as meddling. It has to come from the Iranian people if it is to succeed. One interview with an Iranian he asked cant the USA just come and topple the mullahs and the leave the next day? I think Iranians are open to progress they just can't seem to get there.

Posted by: Howie at May 03, 2006 10:52 AM (D3+20)

6 I can not believe it for a second. Do you mean the same IRGC who have been after his rear end for years?
I don't think he is that stupid. Hot air! Hot air

Posted by: Alex at May 03, 2006 10:59 AM (qD9xN)

7 I have to agree with blert. Things may not be as easy as Pahlavi thinks. The IRGC is powerful in Iran and they know it. Sure there may be elements that want the mullahs out, but once that happens (however it happens)there's nothing to stop the IRGC brass from taking over and forming a military government like Pakistan.

Posted by: Graeme at May 03, 2006 11:04 AM (OBS/s)

8 "In fact get this man in and Iran can build all the reactors it wants because the threat of misuse is removed."

C'mon, didn't you learn anything with Saddam? A friend today is an enemy tomorrow. Especially in the Middle East where loyalties change on a daily basis.

Anyone else find it ironic that the son of the Shah wants to bring in a democratic government?

Posted by: Venom at May 03, 2006 11:06 AM (dbxVM)

9 OK, so I guess we shoud start the bombing now? No sense fooling around considering other methods or groups we can help.

Posted by: Howie at May 03, 2006 11:15 AM (D3+20)

10 One generation overthrew the Shah, and no one has even attempted it on the Theocracy -- so I'm guessing not too much Ted.

Regime change is going to be our best hope however, It is doubtful a Military strike will occur whilst we have troops in Iraq, and seeing comments from Israel's new President, he comes across weak, and unlikely to initiate any type of Military attack first.

Iran is daring America, and Israel to knock the chip off it's shoulder, with threats of state sponsored terrorism against Israeli and American citizens, challenging history of the Holocaust, making genocidal threats of wiping out Israel, sending Military supplies into Iraq and making saber-rattling demands and/or statements daily. You have to wonder what they have to gain by inviting an attack.

Iran was often thought to be the "500lb Gorilla" of the Middle-east and I believe it is trying to toughen it's grip in the region by appearing to be a much tougher opponent that it is, think of it in the terms of the school bully, who is considered tough, and everyday another kid calls his Mom names, or pisses in his gym-bag, the longer the Bully doesn't retaliate the weaker he appears to be.

You do not have to be a genius to figure out that America is not looking to expand conflict in the arena, with the world opinion of the U.S and Israel both being taunt right now, and the medias constant running of negative stories in regards to Gas prices (note then Iran threatens to affect Gas prices) unfavorable polls of the President and the War, Iran feels in a position of power because it's gambling on inaction on the parts of both America and Israel due to the War, and world opinion and oil prices and the logistics involved in expanding the War to Iran.

Iran is taking quite a gamble, back to the school bully scenario, imagine that the other kid is emboldened by the threat of expulsion of the bully if he is involved in violence, what if the bully thinks f*ck it and knocks him out anyway?

wishful thinking maybe.

Posted by: davec at May 03, 2006 11:19 AM (CcXvt)

11 Nah, Howie. I'm just saying the son of the Shah shouldn't be the 1st choice the U.S. should look at.

Posted by: Venom at May 03, 2006 11:49 AM (dbxVM)

12 ".. Because like in any totalitarian system, they know that at the end theyâ€™ll fall. The question is, how do they negotiate their exit strategy?" is he refering to 1979 exit strategy.

50% of Iranian are too young to remember Pahlavi and those who do, are not so thrilled with the come back of the old totalitarian system. Let them deal with existing one.

Posted by: rober T at May 03, 2006 11:50 AM (qD9xN)

13 Hey I'm all open for other options. And I do get excited/carried away. So maybe the reactor statement reflects that. But if Iran was a non-threatenting nation I don't have a problem with nuke power. The nuke question probably helps the mullahs say, "the US is holding us back" when really it's we don't trust they can use/or refrain from using it responsibly.

I don't think he is a good first choice but I'm not aware of many others.

Posted by: Howie at May 03, 2006 11:57 AM (D3+20)

14 Well, I'd do it but the commute would probably kill me.

Posted by: Venom at May 03, 2006 01:48 PM (dbxVM)

15 Time to turn on " The Wizard of Oz "

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 03, 2006 04:48 PM (FCC6c)

16 We do not have time for Iran. We must invade Mexico now. They have invaded us, so what's the problem.

They have oil, and ocean front views. We can make them the 51st state, and it will be a win, win for both sides. Why not? If we have reason to invade Iraq, we have more reason to invade Mexico.

Just think, in Mexico the majority of people there want to build schools, water treatment plants, roads, railroads, oil wells, and don't have a problem working. They pray to the same G-d most Americans pray to also.

Posted by: Leatherneck at May 03, 2006 06:58 PM (D2g/j)

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April 24, 2006

Iran Issues Regular Daily Threat Against Israel.

Of course he again blames Europe for helping the Jews return to the land they were driven from. Seems he just canâ€™t accept the fact that we have gotten over and are ashamed Europeâ€™s unfortunate episode of Genocide. Well never fear Ahmadinejad intends to pick up where Adolf Hitler left.

Bloomberg :``You made Europe unsafe for Jews,'' he said at a press conference. ``Allow them to go back to their own fatherlands,'' he said in a speech about the consequences of World War Two, according to a translation carried live by Bloomberg Television. ``You have created a problem which you should solve yourself.'' He said the creation of Israel had resulted in the persecution of the Palestinian people.

More of Hitlers new apprentice here at Yahoo News :

Some 60 years have passed since the end of World War II. Why should the people of Germany and Palestine pay now for a war in which the current generation was not involved?" Ahmadinejad said at a news conference.
"We say that this fake regime (Israel) cannot not logically continue to live," he said.

He sounds more like Hitler every day.

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