May 19, 2006
Free Republic : Human rights groups are raising alarms over a new law passed by the Iranian parliament that would require the country's Jews and Christians to wear coloured badges to identify them and other religious minorities as non-Muslims.I know, Iran can save help out their budget by adopting the old Nazi patches. They are hip, already designed and cheap to make, Then force non-Muslims to buy them as a Dhimmi tax. This Islamic rule thingy is like Nazism for Dummies."This is reminiscent of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. "Iran is moving closer and closer to the ideology of the Nazis."
Iranian expatriates living in Canada yesterday confirmed reports that the Iranian parliament, called the Islamic Majlis, passed a law this week setting a dress code for all Iranians, requiring them to wear almost identical "standard Islamic garments."
The law, which must still be approved by Iran's "Supreme Guide" Ali Khamenehi before being put into effect, also establishes special insignia to be worn by non-Muslims.
Iran's roughly 25,000 Jews would have to sew a yellow strip of cloth on the front of their clothes, while Christians would wear red badges and Zoroastrians would be forced to wear blue cloth.
"There's no reason to believe they won't pass this," said Rabbi Hier. "It will certainly pass unless there's some sort of international outcry over this."
Hat Tip: Son of the Godfather.
Update : Some say this is not in the law. The Original story is here.
From the Jerusalem Post : The Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations released a statement saying, "We have been seeking to clarify these reports but do not yet have confirmation. There are clear indications that various Iranian government agencies, including the Ministry of Commerce and Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance, are working on new uniforms to be introduced in the fall."While such legislation would be reminiscent of dark periods in the past, like the Nazi era when Jews and others had to wear identifying badges, it is also consistent with the racist and extremist ideology propagated by President Ahmadinejad.
We are monitoring the situation and seeking to ascertain the facts in order to determine the appropriate response."
Allahpundit is keeping us updated.
Debka Via Allahpundit at Hot Air : However, the law has not been finally enacted, and speakers in the majlis debate proposed that non-Muslim minorities be made to wear distinctive clothes, yellow being the preferred color for Jews.So the law is only to further regulate the dress of Muslims with proposals to designate Jews and other minorities. That is rather oppressive in itself for Muslims subject to this “Islamic State Dress Codeâ€. But I guess if Iran oppresses it’s own people that’s just OK. Imagine if our president asked for a strict conservative Christian national Dress code? Also it seems if Muslims are “in uniform†it gets pretty easy to tell who “the others†are. Including Muslims who resist this mandate. The fact that this proposal was even made speaks volumes.The bill in question aims primarily at countering the revolt against black Muslim dress†as the hot summer approaches and Iranians – especially women - take to light clothing. At the end of the majlis debate, the final draft will be put to the vote; with or without the proposed discriminatory clauses remains to be seen.
Breaking : The latest report on this issue from The National Post here.
Mr. Javdanfar said that not all clauses of the law had been passed through the parliament and said the requirement that Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians wear special insignia might be part of an older version of the Islamic dress law, which was first written two years ago.“In any case, there is no way that they could have forced Iranian Jews to wear this,†he added. “The Iranian people would never stand for it.â€
However, Mr. Kermanian added that Jews in Iran still face widespread, systematic discrimination. “For example if they sell food they have to identify themselves and their shops as non-Muslim,†he said.
Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre in Los Angeles, acknowledged that he did not have independent confirmation of the requirement for Jews to wear badges, but said he still believes it was passed.
“We know that the national uniform law was passed and that certain colours were selected for Jews and other minorities,†he said. “[But] if the Iranian government is going to pass such a law then they are not likely to be forthcoming about what they are doing.â€
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In exchange for their lives and religious identity, the jews and christians agreed to an archaine set of segregation laws, commonly known as the "Pact of Omar." One of the provisions was that they had to wear a yellow sash in public known as the zunar. Later in the 9th century, it was later changed to a yellow star of david, and a yellow cross.
Some believe that Hitler's friend, the grand mufti Al-Husseini of Jerusalem in the 1930's gave him the idea. Also, don't you remember how the Taliban used to do this to hindus in Afghanistan? I'm suprised the current rule in Iran didn't come into effect earlier!
Posted by: Jimmy the Dhimmi at May 19, 2006 07:23 AM (RIPcF)
Too bad I had to get it for sending info on signs of another impending holocaust, but hey, I'll take what I can get.
I hope the U.N. sends another strongly-worded letter.
Posted by: Son Of The Godfather at May 19, 2006 07:31 AM (maXzk)
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Posted by: Son Of The Godfather at May 19, 2006 07:49 AM (maXzk)
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Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 19, 2006 08:53 AM (8e/V4)
Posted by: Oyster at May 19, 2006 09:07 AM (QQzPp)
And there is a tooth fairy, and a Santa Clause, and an Easter Bunny.....
Posted by: jesusland joe at May 19, 2006 09:16 AM (rUyw4)
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Posted by: Tom at May 19, 2006 09:32 AM (FKR2r)
Well lefties, are you selling out 25,000 Jews for peace in our time? The pink star can’t be too far behind.
Posted by: Brad at May 19, 2006 09:40 AM (BJYNn)
The Left is so bound up in blind hatred for the West, it just doesn't get it.
Posted by: -keith in silicon valley at May 19, 2006 09:59 AM (pmP8H)
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Posted by: john ryan at May 19, 2006 11:35 AM (TcoRJ)
Posted by: Howie at May 19, 2006 12:03 PM (D3+20)
The Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians, and Atheists in Iran must have done something really terrible to inspire such hate.
Maybe if they just agonize over what it is that they did, apologize profusely, then stop doing it, they can make peace with the people they have antagonized.
Posted by: Randall at May 19, 2006 12:06 PM (xjzyI)
Ain't that convenient. Democrats can lobby for everything from rights for Gitmo detainees, gay marriage, the right to have an abortion, to environmental issues. But persecution of Jews and Christians? Hey, there's certainly nothing they could do there. Nuh uh. Sorry.
Posted by: Graeme at May 19, 2006 12:12 PM (/sm6B)
when you offer up silly comments like that you demonstrate your intellectual dishonesty. And if you have no credibility, why even bother commenting at all. How can Liberals be the "intellectuals" if you can't even offer up intellectually honest and credible argumentation. Sometimes you sound no better than middle schoolers in your comments.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 19, 2006 12:20 PM (8e/V4)
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Posted by: Daithi at May 19, 2006 01:09 PM (+xCii)
Catnip: I hope it isn't true, but you have to admit it's not hard to believe with the new wave of Iranian nationalism and the Iranian Parliament's rescinding of any advances made during the last Presidency. Before Ahmadinejad took office many women were wearing western clothes and the scarves covering their hair were getting smaller and smaller. Now they've gone backwards and pushed women back to wearing the hijab. There have been more instances of women being beaten in the street by police, Taliban style, for showing an arm or an ankle. things certtainly aren't getting better there. They're getting worse.
Posted by: Oyster at May 19, 2006 01:22 PM (QQzPp)
I'm extremely concerned about the fate of all people in Iran and the rantings of their president, who is clearly unstable. This is a very sensitive situation that must be treated with caution and I think the west must proceed with as much transparency as possible so that we are able to determine the best course of action to help the Iranian people.
Posted by: catnip at May 19, 2006 01:42 PM (BJI+K)
If it turns out false (or withdrawn), then blogs did a good thing with the upward pressure. We'll see.
Posted by: Howie at May 19, 2006 01:45 PM (D3+20)
is that the equivalent of the "fake but accurate" stance?
I doubt right now Iran would back down from anything, if this doesn't occur -- then it's because it was a fake story.
Posted by: davec at May 19, 2006 01:57 PM (CcXvt)
Posted by: RepJ at May 19, 2006 02:06 PM (y6n8O)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 19, 2006 02:15 PM (8e/V4)
One guy says it's wrong some other ones say it's right. Laws are open to interpretaion and regulation/policy as well. Who knows what's possible with that nut.
Iran being a relatively closed place doesn't help. Prove to me it's not. If he didn't act like a nut people wouldn't need to worry. I'll look for the actual result we all should. does anyone have a copy?
Posted by: Howie at May 19, 2006 02:28 PM (D3+20)
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Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 19, 2006 04:13 PM (FCC6c)
Posted by: Howie at May 19, 2006 04:27 PM (D3+20)
Posted by: catnip at May 19, 2006 06:19 PM (AEI/3)
Posted by: sandpiper at May 19, 2006 07:34 PM (XLUG2)
Personally, I think, if true, even the sick libs will come to realize what the Muslim nuts are about.
I still think we should attack tomorrow and load our shells with pig shit. Only, this time, no occupation please. Lets not give a shit about rebuilding their infrastructure. If they don't have electricity it will keep them out of trouble.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 19, 2006 07:47 PM (AWtJU)
if the story were true the Libs would find some way to justify it or wrack their brains trying to find some equivalency here in the West or Israel. Lucky for them it's probably fraudulent so they don't have to twist themselves into knots like they do for so many other despicable things coming out of that part of the world.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 19, 2006 08:32 PM (8e/V4)
Didn't the 9-11 commission note that we had a hard time beleiving people who said they were going to do certain things might actually act on their threats?
All of these people trying to do in-depth analysis on statements coming from Iran might be missing the point -- Perhaps they mean exactly what they say.
Posted by: fleabag at May 19, 2006 08:49 PM (kAJFM)
Posted by: hondo at May 19, 2006 08:54 PM (SeBrl)
Here's some info that may help. See these two posts on my site. See the caveat from Kenneth Timmerman re Mr. Kermanian may have a conflict of interest.
Also I caught Dr. Zin catching a plane by phone and he gave me some info to pass on.
RBT
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Update III:
Kenneth Timmerman just posted these updates to his original post:
UPI reported from Tehran that the Majles passed the law this week."This law recalls the Holocaust immediately to mind when Jews were forced to wear distinctive yellow Stars of David on their clothes," said American Jewish Congress Executive Director Neil Goldstein.
[...]
Sam Kermanian, of the Iranian Jewish Federation in Los Angeles, urged Jewish activists to caution in a mass email today. "So far the two reports we managed to obtain from our own independent sources from inside the country suggest that the original reports are false," he wrote. "Both Mr. Morris Motamed the Jewish member of the Iranian Parliament and Mr Parviz Yeshaya the former head of the community have strongly denied the reports."
Stay tuned....
Note: Mr. Kermanian has acknowledged to FDI that he currently does business in Tehran, but says that he has received a "waiver" from the Treasury Department to sanction his commercial activities.
www.iran.org
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Dr. Zin is on this story and will updating shortly
RBT just got off the phone with Dr. Zin of Regime Change Iran who was about to board a plane to return home from DC. He said he will be posting further on this story when he gets back home.
Dr. Zin said he first learned of this in 2004. Dr. Zin' sources have said until recently this has been in the context of a discussion on an Islamic appropriate dress code. The last he heard was it was't in writing but was making it's way through the lower levels of what serves as the Irainian legislative process. [ed note: A stacked deck :--)]
Dr. Zin said the President Ahmadinejad is in support of this dress code. Dr. Zin doesn't know if there is enough agreement to pass and implement it.
Stay tuned as Kenneth Timmerman said . . .
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Posted by: rocketsbrain at May 19, 2006 09:42 PM (eiDrK)
"So if there is a proper Mulsim uniform are non muslims forbidden/not required to wear the same or different. Same general effect. You know who is who just by looking."
Good point, perhaps the cloth marking each individual faith is an exaggeration of the original story, but like you said, if the "Muslim uniform" part of the story is true, it would have the same effect as it is unlikely the non-Muslims would be wearing it. I guess we'll see as more details emerge.
It too, is important that we verify these details, as we do not want to set a bad precedent.
Posted by: LC CanForce 101 at May 19, 2006 10:13 PM (BRXB/)
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Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 19, 2006 10:55 PM (FCC6c)
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Posted by: Bob the Racist at May 20, 2006 02:14 PM (aYuiN)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060519/wl_mideast_afp/iranrightsreligion_060519200726
Golly, Iran has a jewish MP, who knew? Maybe this "black ops" slur will have a positive effect.
Posted by: Brian Coughlan at May 21, 2006 10:09 AM (JFJVR)
That's blogging you never know when you post just what a story is going to do. I found this on a MSM source. I do my best to use MSM sources. Af far as how blogs work one this started gaining exposure the giant auto research team was on the case. On or two people can find stuff. Post it and within 24 hourse enough informations was dug up on it. You win a few you loose a few. I'd rather that we did post it and find out what is really going on.
I think overall the blogs did well considering it's a bunch of "citzen jouralists" discussing. We are quick and sometimes too quick It happens on blogs two minutes is too late. I've picked up three stories off MSM sites int eh last month that blogs played a role in finding the truth. It takes a few hours but bloggers will figure it out.
As a single person I can do a bit of research or call attention to a story. After that a bunch more peole put in thier two cents worth and you have somthing. I'm not upset with the liberals for exposing the parts that were questionable. I'm glad they did. Otherwise I would be misled. Both sides have the same problem. The Rove issue comes to mind. They wanted Rove so bad tehy jumped the gun a bit. But seems by now thye have corrected. I saw the guy post about his mistake yesterday. No problem with it. He tried and that's all you can do.
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Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 21, 2006 02:50 PM (FCC6c)
This is a rigtwing blog and that story didn't last even one day. So much for your guarantee.
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