Abu Izzadeen Arrested: British Muslims Seethe, Threaten
An Islamic website linked to radical exiled cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed has announced that Bakri's lieutenant, Abu Izzadeen, has been arrested. U.K. newspapers are also confirming this. The specific charge is of encouraging terrorism.
The British website claims that Izzadeen was arrested "at the train station" and that Muslims should pray for Bakri. Other posters echoed the sentiment. "May Allah hasten his release," said one commenter.
"May Allah handle the oppressors, May He throw fear into there [sic] hearts, n [sic] direct his force against them.... May Allah (swt) make there plots against us a means for there [sic] own destruction!" said another.
Here's the website. The same forum recently described The Jawa Report as "a mix of red necks and swine eating pigs... most of which are made up of pedophiles and homosexual [sic]". We'll cop to the first two (rednecks and swine eating pigs), but I was under the impression that it was Mohammed who was the pedophile (eg, his marriage to the 6 year old Aisha, and his rape of her at 9) and that it was in Islamic countries where buggery runs amock!
Notice, too, that they site an ironic post by a commenter about finding justifications in the Bible for Christians killing Muslims. A) None of the authors of the Jawa Reports said that, it was a commenter B) The commenter was joking. A play on the injunction in the Quran for Muslims to kill Christians until they either convert or submit to Muslim rule.
Posted by: MidnightSun at February 08, 2007 12:51 PM (tq7s9)
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Muslims are swine and I have no intention of eating them. They are too hairy and boney and they smell bad.
Posted by: Jester at February 08, 2007 02:38 PM (iwtIO)
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Since Britain has no death penalty, and long prison sentences are rarer than islamopithecines who walk upright, maybe Izzy can be sentenced to put on assless chaps and go to a George Michaels concert.
But then, even if he is convicted, he'll probably be sentenced to community service. Preaching to school kids about the wonders of peaceful islam, or opening Parliament with a prayer calling for the death of pigs (Jews,) and monkeys (Christians,) is probably the most we can expect from the courts in Neville Neville Land.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 08, 2007 03:39 PM (Dt3sl)
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You guys have no true idea about this website. I monitor these barbaric animals daily. Even when they claim to be peaceful with a little insite it's easy to see thru them. They are the reason I say much of what I do. I know they are reading the Jawa report. Muslims are swine eating dogs. Thats for you asshole muslims reading the Jawa report. It is true that if you register and have the slightest difference with them it will be deleted. IT IS A MUSLIM HATE BLOG AND NOTHING MORE. The Brits are crazy allow these backward islamic assholes in their country. Most of them are truly ignorant. The rest just hateful degenate rats. While pretending to be peaceful they are far worse than the terrorists. I have more respect for the stupid terrorists who kill in the name of their filthy religion than I do for these cowards who stand back and cheer the killers. They are lower than snake shit. Nothing but fornicators of goats because the women smell like camels. I piss on them and I piss on the phedophile mohammed.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 08, 2007 09:21 PM (ZAZT9)
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GayRoofer, ever the voice of reason. Who even listens to you beside Muslims? Your rants are tiresome and bigoted - the only reason you are paid any mind since you fit so nicely with their view of Americans being just like you. Congratulations, now STFU for once please!
Posted by: tbone at February 09, 2007 02:32 PM (HGqHt)
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Weebone, ever the voice of reason. Who even listens to you beside Muslims? Your rants are tiresome and bigoted - the only reason you are paid any mind since you fit so nicely with their view of dhimmies being just like you. Congratulations, now STFU for once please!
Cock nibbler.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 09, 2007 03:54 PM (Dt3sl)
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Jeff, whip out a brain if you can find one and we can all try to nible on that.
Posted by: tbone at February 09, 2007 08:54 PM (iK3oF)
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So now that we know where their site is ... is there anything cool we can do to/with it? USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 10, 2007 12:54 AM (2OHpj)
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Oh, and Greyrooster .... All fame is fleeting
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 10, 2007 12:55 AM (2OHpj)
"Brain?" Is that the latest euphemism for cock in the queer crowd?
Here's looking at you: Sucking my dick!
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 10, 2007 01:32 PM (Dt3sl)
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Jeff, you little queen, we're still waiting... Don't worry, it happens to every man - I'm sure you can get at least one original thought all nice and hard for us... try to picture yourself in the library bathroom with GR in a burka...
Posted by: tbone at February 13, 2007 11:50 AM (HGqHt)
Al Qaeda Behind British Beheading Plot; Bakri Mohammed Implicated; Suspects Identified (Updated)Updates at bottom. Scroll down.
New developments on the raid that rounded up 9 Muslims suspected of plotting to behead a returned British Muslim soldier. Al Qaeda is now said to be behind the plot, and directed from Pakistan. At least two suspects remain at large. Also, a second Muslim soldier was targetted.
The message the beheading video would send was not only that the British should abandon Iraq and Afghanistan, but that Muslims serving in the UK are now considered "apostates". Apostasy is a capital crime under Islamic law, and beheadin apostates specificaly approved by Mohammed, the Muslim "prophet". The video would serve as a warning to British Muslims not to cooperate with the "kuffar' (unbeliever) nor to change their "deen" (Islamic way of life).
Further, one of the suspects may have served on the Muslim Council of Britain. Another seems to have been involved in the operation of a pool hall. A third was a part owner in a bookstore which sold Islamic jihadi propaganda masquerading as "documentaries", the former owner of which was a Guantanamo Bay detainee.
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After much research I have found a, until now, hidden commandment in the bible that says Christians are to kill muslims at every opportunity. It says that Muslims are the spawn of the devil. The word anti-christ means muslim. My religion commands me to destroy them. All Christians who do not believe this commandment will go to hell. We must do as God commands. Therefore, get out and do your part as a good Christian. Oh yea. This newly found passage also says any Christian that quits should be buried alive. This is part of religion and as a free American my rights to my religion are protected the constitution of the United States. Let us pray and get busy doing Gods work.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 01, 2007 12:44 PM (E7ALy)
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I hope the British authorities use this incident as an opportunity to start reversing the Islamist invasion of England.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at February 01, 2007 01:48 PM (vixLB)
Posted by: Rusty at February 01, 2007 02:37 PM (JQjhA)
4I hope the British authorities use this incident as an opportunity to start reversing the Islamist invasion of England.
You taking cash bets on that
Posted by: Randman at February 01, 2007 02:45 PM (Sal3J)
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Greyrooster, there are lefties who will take that remark seriously, and try to use it against those of us who ARE Christian. I get your joke, but it has the potential to be a double edged sword. Not looking for an arguement, I just felt I should point out that possibility. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 01, 2007 03:43 PM (2OHpj)
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Hell, Greyrooster has a point. That is exactly what a large and growing number of Muslims are saying, and if you read the Koran, that is exactly what it commands.
Posted by: templar knight at February 01, 2007 04:01 PM (LFjVi)
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Rusy: I'll shut up when you stop associating with muslims.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 01, 2007 08:00 PM (E7ALy)
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I believe in this latest heretofor hidden commandment. The lefturds and muslims have hidden this passage from us for a thousand years. What God commands we must do. GOD WILLS IT.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 01, 2007 08:03 PM (E7ALy)
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<blockquote>Unless "Azzar" and "Iqbal" are common Pakistani names.</blockquote>
Your lack of knowledge is dazzling.
Posted by: merkur at February 02, 2007 02:38 AM (7oYoU)
(Audio) British Cleric Encourages Muslims to Behead Hostages: Birmingham Connection
In this two-minute audio clip, Omar Bakri Mohammed urges his followers to use whatever tools they have at their disposal in fighting the jihad. He claims those tools include beheading hostages. This message was recorded by Glen Jenvey on June 8, 2006--the day Abu Musab al Zarqawi, the leader of al Qaeda in Iraq who beheaded British hostage Ken Bigley, was killed.
Why bring this up now? Omar Bakri Mohammed's al Muhajiroun followers congregate in Birmingham. The voice you hear is that of Omar Barki Mohammed, many of those listening to him would have been in Birmingham. It's not a direct connection, but it may have been a motivating factor in the plot to kidnap and behead a British soldier. Especially given that those involved in the plot looked to Zarqawi's example. Add moral justification to example and you have a recipe for action.
Soldier Beheading Plot Foiled in Britain (Bumped, Updated)Important Updates below. Scroll down for info on Moazzam Begg and other updates, including audio of British cleric, with large Birmingham following, praising the beheading of hostages
Another plot inspired by Abu Musab al Zarqawi. Have we finally witnessed the ascendency of the Zarqawi method of filmed beheadings for political gain among radical Salafi Muslims in the West? The plotters, it is said, wanted a repeat of the beheading murder of Ken Bigley---who was personally killed by Zarqawi.
The arrests were in Birmingham, which leads us to suspect that followers of Omar Bakri Mohammed, who have a large following there, were involved. One of Bakri Muhammed's followers is pictured right.
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Behead muslims that call for beheadings. The English had better wake up and soon. Pacifying these monsters is not the way to go. Bring the troops in and remove them from England. Make it a great country once again.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 31, 2007 09:55 AM (w+w6p)
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Is it yet time for marshal law? I mean Michelle Malkin did once talk about justifyable internment.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at January 31, 2007 11:07 AM (vixLB)
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What's with these moongod worshippers and cutting people's heads off. I don't get it.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 31, 2007 12:13 PM (8e/V4)
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JC, it's in the Koo-ran, man. Gotta go by the book, y'know!
Posted by: TXEric at January 31, 2007 02:20 PM (U3Ssr)
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When I read this headline “Beheading Plot Foiledâ€, I thought to myself: ‘who could be responsible for this plot? Could this be the work of radical Baptists? Mormons perhaps? Or Hindus or Sikhs or Buddhists?’ How astonishing that it was in fact perpetrated by Muslims! Of course, they are just following their ‘prophet’s’ example, who in his time ordered the murder of the poet Ashraf merely for writing something that Muhammad didn’t like. And he authorized ‘deviousness’ to accomplish it! These are from Islam’s own scriptures, google them for yourself if in doubt…
Bukhari:V5B59N369 "Allah's Apostle said, ‘Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle.' Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslamah got up saying, ‘O Allah's Apostle! Would you like me to kill him.' The Prophet said, ‘Yes.' Maslamah said, ‘Then allow me to say false things in order to deceive him.' The Prophet said, ‘You may say such things.'"
Tabari VII:94. "Ashraf suspected no evil when Maslama cried, ‘Smite the enemy of Allah!' So they smote him, and their swords clashed over him. Maslama said, ‘I remembered my dagger and I seized it. I thrust it into the lower part of his body. I bore down upon it until I reached his genitals. Allah's enemy fell to the ground.'"
Ishaq:368 "We carried his head back to Muhammad during the night, saluted the Prophet as he stood praying, and cast Ashraf's head before his feet. The Prophet praised Allah that the poet had been slain, and complimented us on the good work we had done in Allah's Cause. Our attack upon Allah's enemy cast terror among the Jews, and there was no Jew in Medina who did not fear for his life."
Ishaq:368 "Ashraf's body was left prostrate. After his fall, all of the Jews were brought low. Sword in hand we cut him down. By Muhammad's order we were sent secretly to his home by night. Brother killing brother. We lured him to his demise with deviousness. We made him taste death with our deadly swords. We sought victory for the religion of the Prophet."
Tabari VII:97 "The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, ‘Kill any Jew who falls under your power.'"
Posted by: Proud Infidel at January 31, 2007 02:56 PM (BUqN7)
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I question the timing of the arrests! It's all a plot to distract from Rove getting a subpoena!
Posted by: wooga at January 31, 2007 03:18 PM (t9sT5)
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Just found out the guy they were going to behead is a muslim. May you muslims have good luck beheading other muslims. It's the latest thing to do. If you wish to keep in step with the wants of the beautiful people. Behead your brother muslim. It is vogue. It's fashionable. It's approved. Make a friend in the west. Behead a muslim. You guys are on the right track. The solution to the muslim problem is BEHEAD YOUR FELLOW MUSLIMS. Right on. Have fun. Good muslims behead other muslims. Go for it. Get a better knife. We cheer for you. Way to go. Vote for muslims that behead other muslims. A green card for all muslims that behead other muslims.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 31, 2007 03:50 PM (w+w6p)
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Plus 72 virgins, 4 camels, 2 goats and a little boy when you get to heaven. I figure the little boy thing will hurry them up.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 31, 2007 04:00 PM (w+w6p)
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at January 31, 2007 07:09 PM (CtVG6)
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I would say that police showing up on your doorstep to arrest you only days before you are set to kidnap an 'evil' muslim member of the military who is kicking your ass in other parts of the world a sure sign that allah is not on your sign.
Posted by: Fred Fry at January 31, 2007 09:46 PM (hLi8T)
Exiled Muslim Cleric Behind London Protest Calling for Pope's Death
As suspected, it was followers of exiled cleric Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed who organized a rally yesterday outside of London's Westminster Cathederal calling for the death penalty for the Pope's blasphemy.
Here is the call for the protest on a password protected internet forum run by Omar Bakri Mohammed from exile in Lebanon where he directs his followers in Britain. Click the image for a larger view.
Several groups founded by Bakri Mohammed have been banned in Britain, including al Mujahiroun and al-Ghurabaa, but each time his followers simply rename the group and continue to preach the same hate and violence.
If that wasn't enough, our friend Glen Jenvey also recorded Bakri Mohammed's latest diatribe against the Pope. If you listen closely, and can get past the heavy accent, you can hear the Shiekh in one breath denouncing the Pope for saying that Islam is spread by the sword and in the next breath confirming that jihad is, in fact, violent and that Islam is, in fact, spread by the sword.
He then goes on and on saying that jihad is to institute a government where people are free to choose Islam, but an Islam based not on distortion etc. In other words, under a government of sharia where it is illegal to criticize Islam. When you criticize Islam, they cut your head off for that.
As soon as I saw this picture of yesterday's protests....
....I knew that it was the same group that organized the anti-cartoon jihad in London. And it was Bakri Mohammed's followers who organized it and put out the call to....
A notorious Muslim extremist told a demonstration in London yesterday that the Pope should face execution.
Anjem Choudary said those who insulted Islam would be "subject to capital punishment". Choudary's appeal for the death of Pope Benedict was the second time he has been linked with apparent incitement to murder within a year....
The 39-year-old lawyer organised demonstrations against the publication of cartoons of Mohammed in February in Denmark. Protesters carried placards declaring "Behead Those Who Insult Islam"....
"Whoever insults the message of Mohammed is going to be subject to capital punishment."
He added: "I am here have a peaceful demonstration. But there may be people in Italy or other parts of the world who would carry that out .
That's right, peaceful capital punishment for blasphemy. ROP and all that........
Oh and Choudary was once the spokesperson for the now banned al Ghurabaa. So, under British law you cannot belong to al Ghurabaa since it has been banned, but its members can keep on doing and saying the exact same things?
Posted by: Leatherneck at September 18, 2006 03:22 PM (D2g/j)
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Question: if insulting Islam is punishable by death, and Christians by definition believe Mohammed to be a false prophet of a false religion, then isn't merely being a Christian blasphemy worthy of death?
That's quite a religion of peace™ they've got going there.
Posted by: Professor Chaos at September 18, 2006 03:25 PM (ZGpSM)
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Yes, Professor, that's exactly right. And Leatherneck, I agree...
Posted by: EricInTexas at September 18, 2006 03:28 PM (S6LwU)
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"Quit saying we're violent and intolerant, or we'll bomb your cities, murder your leaders, and, in the name of Allah the Merciful, the Compassionate, slit all of your throats."
Do they even know how ludicrous they sound?
Posted by: David at September 18, 2006 03:41 PM (d38jD)
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Merry Olde England: NOT! Get yer guns boys' were gonna have to clean out some muslim trash.
Posted by: n.a. palm at September 18, 2006 03:51 PM (CWQzg)
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Aren't we going to have to exterminate these muslims to preserve our on lives? The way things are progressing I see nothing short of an extermination crusade to make things right. Call it a quarantine?
Posted by: hankdkrank at September 18, 2006 03:57 PM (eOTLZ)
No, to call for extermination is worse than what the Muslims want. Bakri Mohammed certainly does not represent all Muslims.
Not that I'm defending Islam, I'm not. But Islam is like Communism. We didn't have to mass-murder Communists to defeat them. And still today there are Commies in our midsts, yet we survive and thrive.
Commies and Muslims make great neighbors. Our real objection is having them in power wanting to foist Marxism or political Islam on us.
Posted by: Rusty at September 18, 2006 04:02 PM (JQjhA)
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Mohammed eats feces in hell. How about this for a sign, one that reads, "BEHEAD ALL THOSE WHO FOLLOW ISLAM!" Now that would be a great sign to carry.
Posted by: Andre at September 18, 2006 04:06 PM (o1EYe)
Sure they do, which is why we need a nuclear shield and granny gets a rectal probe at the airport in case her Poligrip has a delay-timer detonator. Rusty, it must be tough getting a good view of the world with your head buried in the sand like that. Up here in the terrifyingly clear air of reality, the harsh fact is that the "extremists" are actually the only faithful practitioners of true islam in the tradition of mohammed, and any so-called moderates are actually apostates. Because of this fact, the jihadis will always have doctrine and historical precedent on their side, and the moderates will not. Peace and tolerance are the core of Christianity, and those who have committed wrong upon others in the name of Christ have been the apostates, but in islam, it's exactly reversed, and anyone who refuses violent jihad is an apostate, and thus under decree of death. Read Walid Phares' book Future Jihad; he explains it with shocking, unrefutable clarity.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 18, 2006 04:27 PM (v3I+x)
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Uh, Walid is a friend of mine (in the internet sense of the word), and I'm pretty sure Walid has never called for the extermination of Muslims.
Posted by: Rusty at September 18, 2006 04:35 PM (JQjhA)
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How is explaining the islamist view the same as calling for the extermination of Muslims?
So busy dropping names (in the internet sense) that a misunderstanding developed...
Posted by: haywood jablowmi at September 18, 2006 04:52 PM (VUmVc)
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Damn it, Jawa's resident agnostic (or was it "atheist"?) is dead right on Islam AND Christianity. (Oh, the irony!) I've said for years that the "peaceful Moslems" are, in fact, not REALLY practicing Moslems.
Posted by: YBP at September 18, 2006 05:06 PM (gVQMS)
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There is a grotesque irony in radical Muslims using violence, arson and even murder to protest over being labelled violent!
Fuck Mohammed. Fuck Islam.
Posted by: Siro at September 18, 2006 05:08 PM (/3LyZ)
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Why are these dogs allowed to protest in Westminster? Until the time of Henry VIII England was a catholic country. It has been a Christian country for over 1500 years. Muslims have no part to play in UK history other than Richard I's desire to drive them from Jerusalem. How dare they step on UK soil and condemn a religious leader who has had close ties with the UK before muhammed was even conceived.
Muslims have no place in the UK. They are desecrating our history with their cancerous beliefs.
Posted by: Jester at September 18, 2006 05:11 PM (TuAMG)
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Is it illegal to ship pig shit to England if it is hermetically sealed?
Posted by: SeeMonk at September 18, 2006 05:15 PM (n4VvM)
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At least one of those photos you have id not recent. The "Behead those who insult islam" photo is from a protest that went on over a month ago or later. A lot of those look to be potentially recycled. I'll put up the pics I got sent a while back that were supposedly from a "peaceful" rally in England. I don't make any claims about the source, only that they were sent to me August 17th.
I do, however, find it pretty stupid that muslims around the world protest their being called a violent religion through violence. Really good way to prove Islam peaceful guys. I'm convinced!
Posted by: Jeremy H. Bol at September 18, 2006 06:01 PM (Mv/2X)
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Exactly, YBP and IM, the Muslims who are practicing the faith of Mohammed are out there chopping people's heads off, shooting elderly nuns in the back, and using children for suicide bombers. That is the true faith of Islam. Blood drips from the hands of the murderers who follow the moon god Allah. The decent Muslims have always shied away from the true believers, but have also never opposed them for two reasons; fear and the fact that they have benefitted financially from the jihad, at least in the past.
Posted by: jesusland joe at September 18, 2006 06:07 PM (rUyw4)
Posted by: Bob at September 18, 2006 06:08 PM (WWcP+)
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The muslims who are protesting the Pope's statements don't care whether we percieve islam as being violent or not. For them this is their golden opportunity - everyone else whose been accused of defaming islam in the past have been small fries. This time they get to go up against the head of the Catholic church. They may not be able to strike at him directly, but if they can muzzle him and extract a full apology, well, that'll be a victory we'll never hear the end of. Pipes is right - we should expect more violence - and that's the maddening thing. Is that our only option? Just sit around, take the violence and hatred and wait for it to pass until the next time? I am so sick of this horsesh*t.
Posted by: Graeme at September 18, 2006 06:19 PM (YvhNw)
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I guess that muslims don't watch Stargate. They really would not like the new evil group, The Ori. But they are just like these muslims, either convert, or die.
Posted by: Fred Fry at September 18, 2006 07:11 PM (SkLxB)
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How about a 180 grain hollow point with nitride coating muslim BIRTH CONTROL PILL? That'll work.
Posted by: n.a. palm at September 18, 2006 07:15 PM (CWQzg)
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I don't believe the moronic muslims who are calling for violence even know the Pope was calling for a peaceful dialogue. They listen only to the dude at prayers who tells them to want the Pope dead and why he should be dead.
They are brain dead.
Posted by: SeeMonk at September 18, 2006 07:45 PM (n4VvM)
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Rusty: The problem is either this radical islamist shit is real, or it is not. If we accept the fact that it is real, if we accept the fact that war has been declared on us and that whether we like it or not, we face a barbaric enemy who embraces death than I think we have to accept that victory lies in killing our enemy. At the very least we need to start closing the mosques and madrassas, removing the hate literature and making it illegal to incite violence against the infidel.
Think of what we had to do to actually win WWII - we dropped an atom bomb. Like you, I mentally run from the thought of an atom bomb, or "extermination." Tell me, though, how will we win this war?
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at September 18, 2006 07:45 PM (fIUHw)
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And Rusty, now that I think of it, it is sort of unrealistic - immature, even - to run a site largely devoted to exposing the brutality, hypocrisy and barbaric nature of an enemy bent on our destruction and then say:
"Commies and Muslims make great neighbors. Our real objection is having them in power wanting to foist Marxism or political Islam on us."
You're joking, right? They saw off heads with little knives. They would blow me up as I fly out of London, if they could. They are threatening to kill the Pope, and to remove Israel from the Middle East.
I'm not saying you should encourage rioting in the street, but I don't think you can post the shit you do and then glibly say that it's all about "political Islam," whatever that is.
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at September 18, 2006 07:56 PM (fIUHw)
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Pope Benedict is in a sure fix now. Even if he apologises now as demanded by the protesters, it would mean pleading guilty of blasphemy for which there is no remission but death. So it is virtually a declaration of war between Christianity and Islam.
Posted by: Syed Talawat Bokhari at September 18, 2006 08:30 PM (zaCLJ)
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YBP, the only "ism" I'm into is realism, and I judge solely by that reality. We must all surrender and convert, thus consigning humanity forever to perpetual misery, or we must kill them all and wipe every trace of them from the Earth.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 18, 2006 09:03 PM (v3I+x)
"Commies and Muslims make great neighbors. Our real objection is having them in power wanting to foist Marxism or political Islam on us."
Please. Commies at least wanted to live. Mutual Assured Destruction worked because commies liked vodka more than death.
Now them Mohammedans, they are a different story. The death-fetishizing Mohammedans are not in the same class as the commies. And anyone who believes that our real objection is having political Islam foisted on us is ultimately a reductionist appeaser.
Our REAL objection is the existence of Islamofascism itself. THIS IS TRUE EVEN IF WE ARE NOT SUBJECT TO A POLITICAL SYSTEM BASED ON ISLAM. The fact Islamofascists live somewhere else is not good enough.
We need to wipe Islamofascism, and its supporters, from the earth.
The commies and Pakistani mathematicians that academics surround themselves with at the Faculty Club may enjoy singing Cat Steven's Peace Train together, but that does make them good neighbors, and it does not make the Islamist throat-slitters okay as long as they keep their political Islam to themselves.
Posted by: Darth Vag at September 18, 2006 10:51 PM (HSkSw)
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Hey... don't I remember something...
Oh yeah, right.
Like when they attempted to murder my Pope a few years back.
Pope John Paul later met with his would-be assasin to deliver forgiveness.
No more apologies.
Posted by: Shazam! at September 18, 2006 10:57 PM (NJBI1)
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Boy- that Religion of Peace sure gets hijacked alot!
Posted by: Shazam! at September 18, 2006 11:05 PM (NJBI1)
But he who does evil to me, does wrong to his soul: all my haters are in love with death.
Posted by: bible_thumper at September 18, 2006 11:18 PM (sgUuJ)
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Commies and Muslims make good neighbors, in a graveyard.
Posted by: Bloggermouth at September 19, 2006 02:21 AM (AV77T)
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Commies and muslims can make good neighbors, but only if they aren't true believers. Sort of like how we can live with a bunch of college kids wearing "anarchy" and "che" shirts, but real Che goons and anarchists would be impossible.
If we can somehow get Muslims to treat their faith like the Europeans treat Christianity, (build a sex shop on the same block as a Cathedral? no problem!) we'd be fine.
Posted by: wooga at September 19, 2006 05:39 AM (2YapR)
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Arafat was very close with the Commies of the old Soviet Union. True fact.
Posted by: SeeMonk at September 19, 2006 07:42 AM (7teJ9)
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Well duh SeeMonk; where do you suppose the PLO got all those AK's and RPG's? In fact, Russia is still one of the biggest arms dealers to terrorists around the world.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 19, 2006 08:59 AM (v3I+x)
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Why dont they want their faces seen are they afraid someone will put a bullet right between their eyes if they showed up? wheres a sniper when you need one?
Posted by: sandpiper at September 19, 2006 03:27 PM (uTBPj)
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"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."
I think that the Pope made a blatant reference to the Iranian Circus Midget that is posing as their loony leader in the tan coat.
Posted by: The Rogue Jew at September 20, 2006 12:34 PM (OKjDG)
And although the Sun calls this an exclusive, it's not. The Jawa Report had it first, only I thought the more important part of the tape was that Bakri was jailed and set free, was sad about the arrest of Abu Abdullah, had been questioned about the failed airline plot, and knew those involved in raising money for terror in Britian.....but this part is also interesting:
HATE preacher Omar Bakri claimed 14 British servicemen died in revenge for 14 terror arrests in London.
The sick exiled cleric gloated to followers that he was “so happy†at the RAF Nimrod crash in Afghanistan on September 2 which killed everyone on board....
“Allah has his own soldiers and I was so happy. I was just thanking Allah
The rest of the article is just a rehashing of our story here. It's nice to scoop the British press every once and awhile.
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As much as I dislike that piece of shit bakri I understand his type(muslim), his rants are not in the least surprising.
However, just grabbed a free paper on the London Tube on my way home tonight.
I was a little surprised but not at all shocked that the BBC is indeed the european wing of Al Jazeera.
Simon Torkington assistant editor of the BBC London News is leaving London after causing untlold amounts of damage to Britain to go and work for??
You guessed it Al pig fucking Jazeera.
He left with his wife Shiulie Ghosh,
another Adam Ghadahn????
Send him and his wife to the Tower, traitors.
Posted by: dave Clarke at September 11, 2006 04:04 PM (jgKRf)
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It would really make my day today on 9-11, if I could beat the living dog shit out of this moon god worshipping POS. However, any moon god worshipper would do.
Posted by: Leatherneck at September 11, 2006 04:54 PM (D2g/j)
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Why this fat muslim dog was even allowed to step on UK soil amazes me? They won't let football hooligans travel yet they let muslim dogs go in and out of the UK as they wish.
As for the traitors in the UK society and government...behead them all on Tower Hill.
Posted by: Jester at September 11, 2006 04:54 PM (TuAMG)
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They should have executed him instead of deporting him.
Posted by: greyrooster at September 11, 2006 05:53 PM (rdpiS)
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My British/Canadian neighbor says the muslims have taken over England. He is a Canadian born of English parents. He has applied for American citizenship.
BTW he is not happy about the thought of amnesty for all of the illegals. Imagine that.
Posted by: SeeMonk at September 11, 2006 06:24 PM (n4VvM)
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SeeMonk your friend is right. I'm living in NZ for a while but there are 40000 of the bastards here and more arriving by the day. I hope to return to the UK as I have a house there but it is a poor place to raise children.
I am totally against the teaching of islam in schools as to me it has no merits as a religion or belief system. The UK bends and grovels to the muslims far too much.
The fact is islamists are destroying British culture, I don't know why we bothered fighting WWII as we only fought to provide a place for the scum of the earth to inhabit, the native Brit has suffered.
Posted by: Jester at September 11, 2006 06:45 PM (TuAMG)
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I want to celebrate Bakri's death with a round to the brain. But, any moon god worshipper would do today.
Posted by: Leatherneck at September 11, 2006 06:56 PM (D2g/j)
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I want to celebrate Bakri's death with a round to the brain. But, any moon god worshipper would do today.
Posted by: Leatherneck at September 11, 2006 06:58 PM (D2g/j)
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jester, the same damn thing is happening here in the US. On the 5th Anniversery of 9/11, the bastard Khatami is here in the US, approved by the State Department, no less. Frankly, I'm pissed, and I'm glad the bastard didn't come anywhere near me. I just wish I could get my hands on this bastard just one time, I'd show him what my grandma used to do to chickens she had fattened up for Sunday dinner.
Posted by: jesusland joe at September 11, 2006 07:51 PM (rUyw4)
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Give the bastard to the S.A.S. men and let them use him for target practice.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at September 11, 2006 07:54 PM (Bp6wV)
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Personally I would not help to publicize Omar Bakri's sadistic fantasies. We might as well react to graffiti on the walls of a public toilet, which is where Bakri's stuff would fit right in.
Posted by: Larry Hammick at September 11, 2006 08:49 PM (0iSGp)
Omar Bakri Mohammed Detained in Lebanon, 3 al-Muhajiroun Arrested
***Jawa Report Exclusive***
Shiekh Omar Bakri Mohammed, the exiled British Muslim cleric, was detained by Lebanese police last week and then released after passing a bribe. He was questioned about his possible involvement with the foiled sky terror plot. Bakri denied any involvement.
In a conversation last night between al-Muhajiroun followers in Britain and Bakri in Lebanon, Omar Barki Muhammed related details of his detainment in Lebanon. Bakri claimed that the Lebanese authorities detained him at the request of the British or Americans.
The conversation was one of many secretly recorded by Glen Jenvey.
Bakri Mohammed claims that he was shown pictures of suspects in the plot to blow up American bound airplanes by the Lebanese authorities questioning him. He admitted to them that he had met some of the alleged plotters, but claims he did not know them by name.
Pakistan has arrested what it calls the leader of the sky-terror plot, a 25 year old Birmingham man named Rashid Rauf. Rauf is a member of Omar Bakri Mohammed's now banned al-Muhajiroun group.
Bakri was also asked by his al-Muhajiroun followers about jihad training and recruitment at the Jameah Islameah School. Bakri indicated that he knew the school's owner, Balil Patel. Bakri seemed to be pleased that the Patel was not among those arrested.
The conversation also turned to Abu Abdullah. Abu Abdullah, an assistant to jailed cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri at the Finsbury Park mosque, is now among the 14 men arrested in London on suspicion of involvement in terrorist recruiting and training centered around the school.
In last night's conversation, Bakri Mohammed can be heard praying for Abu Abdullah's release from prison and his al-Muhajiroun followers repeating the wish or saying ameen (amen).
In previous conversations secretly recorded by Jenvey between the exiled cleric and British al-Muhajiroun followers, Shiekh Omar Bakri Mohammed has raised funds for the 'mujahidin'.
Bakri Mohammed also claims that he was released after a bribe was given to the Lebanese authorities detaining him. He also believed that this bribe would keep him immune from further arrests.
Three al Muhajiroun members were arrested in Manchester last night on suspicions of plotting an assassination. While British police would not clarify who was the target of the assassination plot, it seems clear that Tony Blair was the intended victim.
The three are all described as of being Asians of Pakistani heritage and in their mid to late 20s.
If you would like to e-mail Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, and personally ask him about his connection to British terror plots, Glen tells me that you can reach him at obmuk@hotmail.com.
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According the Bloomburg, there is more to the school story - local police had 'diversity training' at school.
Sept. 4 (Bloomberg) -- U.K. police officers were given ``diversity training'' at an Islamic school southeast of London that's now at the center of a terrorism investigation.
Posted by: Matt at September 04, 2006 11:29 AM (1YuGt)
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Why is it that diversity training never involves teaching backward savages and lowlife scum how to behave like decent, civilized people, but rather the obverse?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 04, 2006 11:58 AM (v3I+x)
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Excellent point, IM, but the pertinent and missed point in all of this is that many of these people who are now suspects in the lastest outrage were allowed to march and openly threaten people. Why were these people not arrested on the spot and deported. That is what it will take to put a stop to this crap.
Posted by: jesusland joe at September 04, 2006 01:20 PM (rUyw4)
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Because they're not White Christians, that's why. If a real Brit speaks out against muslim scum, they'll go straight to jail, but muslims can call for the murder of innoncent people with no problem. Yay liberalism!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 04, 2006 01:56 PM (v3I+x)
Posted by: Bill Faith at September 04, 2006 02:50 PM (n7SaI)
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Darth Vag, Let's not limit ourselves to longhorns; similar effects can be achieved by a) 18-wheelers b) M1A1 Abrams tanks c) Bradley fighting vehicle d) construction machinery bulldozers and so on :-)
Posted by: Rusty at September 04, 2006 04:35 PM (JQjhA)
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Now, now... Although I am a "repatriated" Texan, and was ecstatic when I watched them take the title last year, my son is a new freshman at UNT (and one of the lead trumpets in the GREEN BRIGADE (you have to say it that way)), so I was torn a bit over the game this weekend.
As far as this Muslim piece of shit, he should die in a fire.
Go 'Horns! (and, Go Screamin' Eagles, in their division)...
Posted by: EricInTexas at September 04, 2006 04:52 PM (VNTkV)
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"...passing a bribe..." Money talks and bullshit walks comes to mind.
(The first vid) I could not have stood there and let his screeching bile be spewed and call myself a justice of the peace, had I been one of the cops standing off to his left.
Gag'im and bag'im with a pig gut on his way to be hung in public by his own entrails. How much blood and treasure need to be spilled and spent before we get serious about this plague and flip the switch from auto mode to eradicate?
Posted by: forest hunter at September 04, 2006 07:14 PM (TjUVb)
Posted by: SeeMonk at September 04, 2006 08:26 PM (n4VvM)
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Anyone read the article in the WaPo today on salad fist islam? It is a 5 pager but not bad for the WaPo. I feel the writer was a little too sympathetic to their cause. Big surprise eh?
Posted by: SeeMonk at September 05, 2006 08:14 AM (7teJ9)
Posted by: Rusty at September 05, 2006 08:36 AM (JQjhA)
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Here you go. After reading it a second time, the writers seem to have a more neutral tone. However, I was alarmed by what is mentioned as matter of fact.
Posted by: SeeMonk at September 05, 2006 11:47 AM (7teJ9)
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Seems WaPo has pulled the article from the front page of their site. I have not found a mention yet as to where it can be found. But we have the link.
Posted by: SeeMonk at September 05, 2006 03:41 PM (7teJ9)
More Bakri, Birmingham, Ties to Terror Plot Uncovered (Updated)
British sources are beginning to confirm suspicions first raised by The Jawa Report that the failed UK terror plot was linked to exiled cleric Shiekh Omar Bakri Mohammed.
On August 10th a source in the UK told The Jawa Report that followers of Omar Bakri were almost certainly involved in the failed mass-murder plot. Followers of the jailed cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri were also implicated. Both of the radical clerics preach a message supporting the imposition of Islamic law and an Islamic empire and many of their followers travel in the same circles.
The Syrian born Omar Bakri Mohammed has been the leader of several British Musllim organizations, which many claim have ties to al Qaeda. Three of them have been banned in the UK. They are Al-Muhajiroun, al-Ghurabaa and the Saved Sect.
The British government considers Bakri persona non grata and he now resides in Lebanon.
The Jawa Report can independently confirm that despite Bakri's exile, he still has a large following and continues to direct the activities of radical Muslims in Britain. Bakri also continues to raise money from British Muslims which he claims are for the help of the mujahidin--or, holy warriors.
Intelligence sources in Pakistan have linked Rashid Rauf, 25, the Birmingham man being held in Pakistan and alleged to be at the centre of the plot, to members of al-Muhajiroun in the UK.
The Birmingham al-Muhajiroun connection is key.
Bakri's followers in Birmingham are known as The Saved Sect. Some time ago we revealed that members of The Saved Sect were using The Birmingham Grid for learning, a publicly funded education establishment operated by the Birmingham City Council, to spread their Islamist hate propaganda.
The Jawa Report had led an unsuccessful campaign to shut down The Saved Sect's website in July. Shortly after the British government foiled the terror plot the website was down.
Birmingham was one of several locations where police arrested suspects involved in the plot.
More connections from The Guardian:
Waltham Forest council banned the extremist group al-Ghurabaa from holding clandestine meetings at premises within walking distance of the homes of several terror suspects arrested last week, the Guardian has learned
Al-Ghurabaa booked the council-owned community hall in Walthamstow on two occasions, but gave false information about the purpose of the events. One of the planned meetings, in February at Waltham Forest Asian Centre, was to plan protests against the Danish cartoons bearing images of the prophet.
You may remember Bakri's followers at that protest. To the right, one of them is pictured.
It was claimed the hall would be used to celebrate the festival of Eid. The local authority cancelled the meeting on police advice when it was found the meeting was to discuss the creation of an Islamic state in Britain. Flyers publicising the meeting depicted a man standing next to 10 Downing Street holding a rocket-launcher.
Shiekh Omar Bakri Mohammed also has followers in the United States. The Islamic Thinkers Society of New York is part of the Al-Muhajiroun organization, started by Bakri as an offshoot of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
The Islamic Thinkers Society of New York has organized protests in the past in which they shouted "next time we will get all of NYC" and have publicly desecrated the American flag. The group's website once openly advocated the imposition of Sharia law in the US, but has recently added password protection.
Bakri has sometimes claimed to be the spokesman of the political wing of the International Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders, led by Osama bin Laden. At other times, Bakri has denied and distanced himself from the military wing of the organization, al Qaeda.
Expect more updates and confirmations in the coming days.
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Great work connecting the dots, Rusty. Documenting the Islamists' coordination, planning and organizational aspects plays a key role preventing apologists from depicting terror attacks and hate campaigns as simply the work of ordinary people who have become angry about the West's relations with Muslim states and Muslims.
The Danish cartoon flap shows how exposure like this can help defeat a propaganda initiative. Once the conspiricy behind the cartoon protests was revealed, the Muslim "victims" became plotters and the perceived motive changed in the public perception from expressing outrage to attacking Western legal traditions and intimidating critics of Islamism.
Posted by: Lastango at August 16, 2006 06:35 PM (+RkMD)
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but they're just nice muslim boys from the neighborhood.
Posted by: Editor at August 16, 2006 06:41 PM (adpJH)
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To the Mo-slime piece of s&%t hold the sign I say, behead this mother-f&#ker.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at August 16, 2006 07:06 PM (Bp6wV)
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Rusty, When examining the claims and/or conducts of Mo-slimes one must bear in mind that Mo-slimes are required by their religion to practice "Kitman". The meaning of this word is perhaps best described by Chris Hitchens as "the art and science of dissimulation, particularly in matters of religion" so as to circumvent the exposure of the truly sinister nature of Islam by a Muslim who is careful to maitain an outward appearance of conformity but who uses this cover to introduce "all manner of subversive" falsehoods and half-truths into a discussion. In brief, one mustn't believe anything these Mo-slime f&%kers including Bakri say.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at August 16, 2006 07:15 PM (Bp6wV)
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Well now we know why they didn't shut the site down when Rusty put the scrutiny of the websphere on it. But it was a great get for you dude. Vindication for putting it out there. With all of the info and good info that is, you get from across the pond, you obviously have some local sources. Keep your heads down yall, and keep up the great work.
Posted by: SeeMonk at August 16, 2006 07:22 PM (n4VvM)
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Please give this site a look. IM,if you are out there check this out.
Universities Central to Terror Plot, Bakri Linked
State sponsored terrorism in Britain? Yes. The British government funds Islamic groups on university campuses which, in turn, preach jihad. And, as The Jawa Report first revealed, links between the foiled terror plot and exiled cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed have begun to be uncovered.
Waheed Zaman, 22, a biochemistry student and president of the Islamic Society at London Metropolitan University, was one of those arrested when British authorities foiled an alleged attempt to blow up planes over the Atlantic.
As London's Daily Telegraph reports, buildings on university land set aside as a prayer room and library contained a stash of handy materials for those interested in plotting mass murder. There were pamphlets preaching jihad, instructions on how to deal with security services and cassette tapes produced by al-Muhajiroun, the terrorist body once headed by Omar Bakri Mohammed, now living in exile in Lebanon.
Security sources suggested that several of those arrested are suspected of having links with universities. And when you think about it, setting up jihad school on campus makes perfect sense. It's just the latest manifestation of the tolerant West inadvertently funding its own destruction.
Welcomed by British authorities with promises of tolerance, asylum and welfare cheques, chaps such as Bakri Mohammed openly preached the West's destruction. When sleepy British authorities finally woke up, these Islamo-fascists were duly turfed out of mosques. Then the jihad leaders went on recruitment drives in the sprawling markets of east London, using loudspeakers to preach their hate: "Now is the time for jihad." Told to move on, they have discovered that universities are the ideal place to recruit more potential killers.
We suspect more links will be revealed in the coming days.
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Wake up and smell the Kofi! I'll leave the rest for Maxie! He knows how to say it best! ;-)
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 15, 2006 01:35 PM (gLMre)
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Why don't we buy BP out of gas by switching to BP only? BP is supposedly one of a couple producers of petrolium products that does not use OPEC or as I like to call it, blood oil. We can make the statement to the world if by no other method, via boycott. I purchase my gas from BP and Marathon stations. BP is the cheapest around here anyway. I am not sure where Marathon oil comes from. I was told they are a British company as well.
Posted by: SeeMonk at August 15, 2006 01:39 PM (7teJ9)
Posted by: Leatherneck at August 15, 2006 04:23 PM (D2g/j)
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The lefturds infiltrated Western schools long ago, and have been using them as their reproductive centers ever since, so why should anyone be surprised when the 'slamoturds do it?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 15, 2006 04:55 PM (v3I+x)
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The problem with switching to a different energy and boycotting is that it doesn't solve the problem of China, Russia, South America, North Korea gobling up all the oil and making Mad Hatter more rich. And then when things come to a boil, which is going to work better, oil or alcohol? Like which would you rather use to cut through steel? An acetylene torch, or a propane torch?
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 15, 2006 05:16 PM (gLMre)
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What will we do when the shit hits the fan and that supply is gone? We need to live like it is already gone. Stop feeding Chavez and madbadboobyjob our money.
You had more people strike against France yet Iran is our real enemy and Chavez thinks we are his. Yet every day we send them hundreds of millions of dollars. Not Bahts or pesos or whatever the hell they use for currency.
I will not buy excuses. Truth is, everyone who is too busy to be bothered is aiding the enemy. If 2 cents off a gallon of gas is more important than the future of your families, what does that say to our enemies?
Posted by: SeeMonk at August 15, 2006 05:38 PM (n4VvM)
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I say things will come to a head and we will be forced to park our SUVs while the government filters every drop into the insuing battle. Wake up and smell the crude! :>( O0O0o0o0
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 15, 2006 08:30 PM (gLMre)
That "supply" is well er - actually enormous beyond your imagination. Its rather fascinating how the calculations and definitions are done for "proven reserves". It is rarely known to the general populations anywhere. It explains the fact why there really is little sense of urgency beyond talk.
The "shit hitting the fan" issue is actually a pricing issue - and pricing is a bizzare game complicated by the fact that soooo much of the world's oil is owned and controlled by governments and their entities.
Oddly enough, the country getting poised to become the next oil producing mega-giant in the next few decades is .... Venezula.
There's a story here that will blow you away ... the info is out there just waiting to be turned into an incredible book.
Posted by: hondo at August 15, 2006 09:50 PM (XrexX)
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And the greyrooster continues to scream ACADEMIC MEATHEADS.
They are not true conservatives. One cannot be a conservative and a believe in the rainbow coalition.
Lelturds have not just infiltrated our educational system. They are the educational system. Even if they don't know it.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 16, 2006 11:42 AM (vCjBd)
Sources in the U.K. have informed The Jawa Report that suspects in today's terror arrests are linked to exiled cleric Shiekh Omar Bakri Mohammed.
24 people have been arrested so far in the plot to set off explosive devices on up to 10 airplanes. At least 5 suspects are still at large in the terror plot which has been described as in the final stages of planning.
ABC radio claims that at least 2 of those suspects had made martyrdom videos.
Three suspects have been named by The Blotter as Rashid Rauf, Mohammed al-Ghandra, and Ahmed al Khan.
Glen Jenvey, a member of the London based terrorist watch group Vigil, believes that there is sufficient evidence to conclude that those involved in the plot are linked to Bakri.
Just last month intelligence supplied by Vigil to the British government led to the banning of organizations linked to Bakri.
Jenvey also indicates that some of the plotters may be linked to Abu Hamza. Jenvey's testimony was instrumental in the conviction of the radical cleric.
The Jawa Report cannot confirm the extent to Bakri or Hamza's involvement.
Developing.........
The Syrian born Omar Bakri Mohammed was the leader of several Salafist organizations which many claim have ties to al Qaeda. In July, two splinter groups from Bakri's orignal Al-Muhajiroun organization were banned by the British government.
Bakri has sometimes claimed to be the spokesman of the political wing of the International Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders, led by Osama bin Laden. At other times, Bakri has denied and distanced himself from the military wing of the organization, al Qaeda.
After he was told by the British government that his presence was "not conducive to the public good", Bakri fled to Lebanon. Recently, Bakri was denied entry into to the U.K. when he tried to flee the war torn country.
Tapes made by Vigil record Bakri answering questions to followers on what he thought was a secret password protected forum. Bakri can be heard on the tape making a religious ruling that it was permitted for Muslims to attack civilian targets such as airports.
Other secret recordings reveal the transfer of money from London to Bakri in exile to be used for "the mujahidin".
While the organizations with formal ties to Bakri have been outlawed in Britain, dozens of offshoots have grown in their place.
One of Bakri's followers can be seen in the photo above. Developing.......
The suspects in today's foiled plot have been described as homegrown terrrorists and are said to be the children of Pakistani immigrants.
UPDATE: From a recent Times Online article on declassified documents which are being displayed at the British Library:
Another document, written by an FBI agent before the attacks on New York and Washington, accuses Omar Bakri Mohammed, the radical preacher now barred from Britain, of sending his Al-Muhajiroun supporters to flight training schools in America.
Extremists accused the Government of fabricating the extent of the threat. Anjem Choudary, the right-hand man to the cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed, said that the arrest of 24 suspects was a “baseless attack†on British Muslims that was designed to scare the public.
Mr Choudary said that he did not believe that a plan to commit “mass murder†had been foiled. “I think this is another case of whipping the public into a frenzy over terrorism with very flimsy evidence.â€
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 05:55 PM (v3I+x)
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Where are all the cry babies letting everyone know how unread the religion of peace is? As soon as I write a few lines about how Islam holds these rallies of hate, some lefturd will show up, and call me a racist.
Posted by: Leatherneck at August 10, 2006 06:01 PM (8uWFo)
Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 06:18 PM (n4VvM)
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Hezbollah may be firing rockets into Israel even as they pull back. Nothing confirmed yet. If it is true, then it will be obvious what needs to be done more so now than ever before.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 06:27 PM (n4VvM)
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At what point does the UK need to start mass deportations? If not now, then when? Does The West have the stomach to protect itself anymore? I guess we'll find out pretty quickly here.
Posted by: Richard H. at August 10, 2006 06:47 PM (7KF8r)
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I hope the 20 or so vermin captured are sent to the US. I fear British justice may be too soft on them (too many muslims in positions of power in the UK).
Posted by: Jester at August 10, 2006 06:51 PM (TuAMG)
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Deportations need to happen. Richard H. is right on.
The charismatic leaders must be killed. It's the only way to render them mute. The anti-social criminals must be punished and then deported. And mosques used for the planning and preparation of Jihad must be seized in the same way that property used for drug dealing is seized.
Posted by: Pangloss at August 10, 2006 07:30 PM (RWfP+)
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The stupid thing about the UK is they actually teach Islam in schools as part of religious education (and it's mandatory). To me it is as bad as teaching communism or fascism as it is just another form of evil.
The morons who made up this policy also advocate strongly for equal rights for women. Hello? Islam = oppression for women (and anyone who thinks allah is just another dictator).
Posted by: Jester at August 10, 2006 07:36 PM (TuAMG)
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It's very simple, people. We will have to do the same thing the Spanish did after the Reconquista if the West is to survive. I have my doubts as of now, but I'm pretty sure the terrorists will succeed one of these days, and perhaps the death of 50,000 or so people will change some attitudes, but I'm not betting on it, mind you.
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 10, 2006 07:37 PM (rUyw4)
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Where are the pictures of the terrorists they caught this morning?
Posted by: Leatherneck at August 10, 2006 07:39 PM (D2g/j)
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Isn't this the same whiner who asked for a UK rescue from Lebanon and then squealed for more attacks when the Brits ignored him?
Posted by: DANEgerus at August 10, 2006 07:53 PM (J8yxJ)
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Brits have strict censorship laws about any case that wll be taken to trial. Don't expect pics until all of the perps are apprehended and expect the Brits to be tightlipped.
In fact, most of what we know about the plot comes from FBI statements, and not the Brits.
Posted by: Rusty at August 10, 2006 07:55 PM (x+8Rs)
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In the next few days this will begin to unravel and the
whole thing will be a sting operation or a hoax.Remember
the 7 retards in a wharehouse(miami)?
Posted by: david at August 10, 2006 07:56 PM (Qd6ws)
It has also been proposed that the reconquista left the Iberian kingdoms with deep economic crises, leading to the expulsion of the Jews (who had lived in the Iberian Peninsula for over ten centuries) in order to confiscate their funds and property. It should be noted however that the Portuguese Reconquista ended in 1257 and that the Spanish and Portuguese kingdoms were already profiting from their maritime expansion before the Jews were expelled.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 08:05 PM (n4VvM)
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david, I don't expect you to know the difference between a hoax and the real thing, given that you can't spell "warehouse."
Fetch me a juice box. Make it orange.
Posted by: michaelt at August 10, 2006 08:05 PM (7BX4K)
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The proximity of this thwarted attack and the "Egypt 11" going AWOL raises some concerns in my mind.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at August 10, 2006 08:30 PM (Bp6wV)
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Maybe David's trying to spell "whorehouse." Works for me...
Posted by: Bugler at August 10, 2006 08:36 PM (oKQob)
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Michaelt uses poor grammar. Perhaps he should be more careful; he is living in a glass house and all.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 09:01 PM (n4VvM)
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Warehouse,whorehouse,whatever...there will be another
attack like 9-11,possibly even nuclear,and Bush will declare martial law,gut whats left of the constitution,
and your freedoms will be gone.welcome to the brave new world.
Posted by: david at August 10, 2006 10:38 PM (Qd6ws)
Posted by: Barney Coppersmith at August 10, 2006 10:44 PM (dpUkO)
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GM, I was thinking the same thing. I find it hard not to believe they're related.
Posted by: Richard H. at August 10, 2006 10:47 PM (7KF8r)
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Very Orwellian, but, Bush does not have that power. We have three equal branches of government. An, we have The People.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Only, and I mean Only, The People of the United States of America have this power.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 10:52 PM (n4VvM)
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 11:19 PM (v3I+x)
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Actually, when the British didn't execute this guy or see to it that he was Wellstoned, I knew it would result in the deaths of at least hundreds of westerners.
My company wanted me back in the USA later this month so I'd have been taking one of those flights.
This is one of the reasons why I don't like liberals.
Posted by: Jack Sanderson at August 11, 2006 01:24 AM (Uv0t6)
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Actually, when the British didn't execute this guy or see to it that he died somehow, I knew it would result in the deaths of at least hundreds of westerners.
My company wanted me back in the USA later this month so I'd have been taking one of those flights.
This is one of the reasons why I don't like liberals.
Posted by: Jack Sanderson at August 11, 2006 01:25 AM (Uv0t6)
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Actually, when the British didn't execute this guy or see to it that he died somehow, I knew it would result in the deaths of at least hundreds of westerners.
My company wanted me back in the USA later this month so I'd have been taking one of those flights.
This is one of the reasons why I don't like liberals.
Posted by: Jack Sanderson at August 11, 2006 01:25 AM (Uv0t6)
Posted by: Bill Faith at August 11, 2006 04:26 AM (n7SaI)
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Listen to the howls of comdenmation from the muslim scums "community leaders",did you hear it? no? quite right , you are not going deaf ,plain fact is there were not any,meerly condemnation of heavy handed police action and a conspiracy by the administration to whip up public hostility toward those "peaceful muslims.Ok folks this time forget cattle trucks,let us use instead CONTAINERS,thousands can be packed into just one,doors sealed ,loaded on board ship and deposited over the side in the deepest part of the atlantic trench.
Posted by: R CROSS at August 11, 2006 07:04 AM (pU0Ty)
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David: Shame on you. I mean having a good Jewish name like David we would have expected better of you.
Two 20 year old muslims from Dearborn, Mich. arrested with $11,000 in cash, dozens of disposable cell phones purchased
at Wal-mart and Radio Shack. Maps of Wal-Mart locations in the US and connections to an suspected terrorist on FBI list.
Their attorney says that if their names were Smith they never would have been arrested. Their family in traditional muslims dress shown crying for them in court.
These are the same cell phones that pop up in Iraq and used to detonate IEDs. Wonder if their families were crying for all the American soldiers killed with IEDs?
Will we ever learn? Why are these animals in the USA?
Who is still stupid enough to think we should allow middle easterner's and muslim in our land.
OUTLAW ISLAM and start deporting these animals now.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 11, 2006 08:45 AM (AG5IC)
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What is lost in all of this is we did not start this way. Islam has been declaring war on the US since the 70's and 80's. We just didn't really take them seriously. Until 1990, we were too busy fighting communism. B ut, now that communism is no long as big of a threat, we know who is next in line for the big stick.
So stop bitching CAIR, and bend over.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 11, 2006 09:41 AM (7teJ9)
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This is slightly OT, but worth stating for those who might not see things as they are.
Jews, per capita, are disproportionally responsible for developing technology to make the lives of every person on the planet easier, better, healthier, and longer.
Muslims, per capita, are disproportionally responsible for using technology, which they are incapable of developing, to make the lives of every person on the planet harder, more miserable, and shorter.
Jews are capable of living in any society without creating strife.
Musims are incapable of living without strife even among their own kind.
Conservatives support Israel and believe in capitalism.
Liberals oppose Israel and believe in socialism.
Conservatives believe in Enlightenment ideals as expressed in the U.S. Constitution.
Liberals believe in Marxist ideals, as expressed in the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital.
Conservatives believe in individual rights such as freedom of thought, expression, and self defense, expressed best in the concept of self-determination.
Liberals believe that people have to be told what to do, and that the power of the police state should enforce the consensus, which is formed by those in power.
Conservatives believe in small government, accountable to the people.
Liberals believe in big government, accountable to none.
Conservatives are mostly Christians.
Liberals are mostly anti-Christian.
Jews want to trade with everyone.
Muslims want to enslave or kill everyone.
Conservatives and Jews get along just fine.
Liberals and muslims get along just fine.
Conservatives support wars of liberation to free people from tyranny.
Libeals support wars of "revolution", which enslave people to tyranny.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 11, 2006 10:50 AM (v3I+x)
Posted by: Cmunk at August 11, 2006 11:12 AM (7teJ9)
39My ultra-lame site had 114 hits yesterday. That is an all-time record! I am trying to imagine what it would be like if it was really any good?
Posted by: Cmunk at August 11, 2006 12:02 PM (7teJ9)
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Hey Guys, This "Bakri" isn't he the guy who was deported to Lebanon and who tried to be evacuated by the British Navy??
Well, I hope he won't be authorized to come back to England
Posted by: IMB at August 11, 2006 12:41 PM (8TmK3)
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114 eh? You must be getting that mad blog money by now.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 11, 2006 02:15 PM (v3I+x)
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It's crazy IM, had to send my old lady to the store so the feds won't catch on.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 11, 2006 03:38 PM (7teJ9)
Posted by: greyrooster at August 11, 2006 10:07 PM (AG5IC)
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I like it. Colorful layout. Interesting articles. That's the first blog I've strayed to from TJR except for Michelle Malkin. I go to her site anytime! Anyhow, rack up another hit.
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 11, 2006 10:20 PM (gLMre)
Sheikh Bakri Begs UK for Rescue
Sheikh Omar Bakri has long preached that the Jewish nation is "a cancer in the heart of the Muslim world. It must be eradicated and removed." By all accounts, the Jews are getting ready to pour into Lebanon. Sheikh Bakri is right there. He now has a golden opportunity to "eradicate" and "remove" the Jews. So, of course, he's taken up a Kalashnikov and headed out to meet the "cancerous" Jews, right? Well, not exactly:
LONDON, England (Reuters) -- A hard-line Muslim cleric barred from Britain for glorifying violence said on Friday he tried to get on board a British warship to flee Beirut but was turned back. . .
"I know myself I am not welcome in the UK ... but I have the right like everyone else to safety," he said. "It is better to try and fail." . . .
In an interview with Reuters in Beirut last August, the bearded cleric said he had no intention of returning to Britain because of the way Muslims there were being treated.
So, everyone has a right to safety, now, do they? What about those children your buddies have been shelling in Israel? Do they have a right to safety, now, too? What about Gilad Shalit, Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev? Do they have a right to safety?
You hypocritical chickensh!+ b!+ch. All that bloodshed you've been advocating all these years? It's all coming to fruition right before your eyes, live in surround sound. Enjoy the show. I pray you die slowly.
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While it is surprising the coward would be in fear for his life from Israel, somehow I feel there may be more to this than Israel. Could it be possible there are other folks interested in doing harm to the sheik?
Posted by: Cmunk at July 21, 2006 10:11 AM (7teJ9)
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Tried new comment thingy, comment didn't post.Trying old comment thingy.
He is a coward. Talks the talk, but can't handle the walk. His desire to leave Lebanon makes me wonder if perhaps he has more to fear in Lebanon than the Israeli's.
Posted by: Cmunk at July 21, 2006 10:26 AM (7teJ9)
Otherwise, the post itself has said it all for me. Reap what you sow, Bakri!
Posted by: Oyster at July 21, 2006 10:28 AM (cJvIk)
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I hope the good Sheikh gets just what he deserves in Lebanon. And we all know what he deserves.
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 21, 2006 10:30 AM (rUyw4)
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Well is has been convicted in Syria for sedition and has a 20 year sentence hanging over him.
Posted by: agesilaus at July 21, 2006 10:37 AM (ndFfP)
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Well is has been convicted in Syria for sedition and has a 20 year sentence hanging over him.
Posted by: agesilaus at July 21, 2006 10:37 AM (ndFfP)
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Ever notice how Islamic mullah's NEVER put THEIR ass on the line? It's ALWAYS their FOLLOWERS who are encouraged to die for Islam...If martyrdom is held in such high value by Allah, why aren't we seeing at least a few Mullah's setting an 'example'?
Posted by: d_Brit at July 21, 2006 10:46 AM (s5rKY)
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He wants others to die as martyrs, but not him. How conveeeenient.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at July 21, 2006 10:47 AM (8e/V4)
Bakri is CLAIMING he's afraid of Syria. (Understandable, since he tried to engineer a coup over there a few years' back.)
The problem with his story is that there's no immediate expectation of Syrian troops coming into Lebanon. The only soldiers coming right now are the Israelis.
Even if one were to believe a Syrian invasion is imminent, Bakri's spin still falls apart. Syria is still a MAJOR player in Lebanon. Syria has its agents ALL OVER Lebanon. If Syria wanted Bakri dead, Lebanon wouldn't be a very safe place to hide.
Posted by: All-Seeing Eye at July 21, 2006 10:47 AM (2rYHy)
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The Brits could have had some fun with him though. They should have let him on and then when the ship is under way but still in the harbour, shove him overboard.
Posted by: Graeme at July 21, 2006 10:58 AM (zGqff)
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Well, the British do like their irony. This takes the cake.
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at July 21, 2006 11:28 AM (aH6Zf)
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You know that Bakri says the Shia are all apostates, right? And you know the penalty for apostasy. I don't think Hizballah really digs that.
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as soon as he puts up his hand and claims political asylum the brits will take him with open arms. Stuff his wallet with food stamps and benefit money and give him a house under some kind of protection program. When really he needs to spend some time in Islams favorite prison....
Posted by: rob at July 21, 2006 12:23 PM (QpkBe)
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Eh. It was a publicity stunt - he knew he had no chance whatsoever.
So, he makes his little effort to get back into the media, back in to the public eye, and here we are discussing him. D'oh.
Far better just to ignore the loathesome little insect. Or squash it, I suppose, but that's frowned upon.
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at July 21, 2006 01:22 PM (3nKvy)
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I am so grateful for your site, I could not have voiced it better "I pray you die slowly" amen brother.
Posted by: Erin at July 21, 2006 01:26 PM (0lpqx)
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This prick never paid a penny in tax here Britain... we let him move here, receive generous benefit for himself and his 6 kids yet he still praises the 7/7 bombers who blew up 50 innocent people on the tube here in London.... F**k him.
Hopefully he will be taken out, and if he does die then the world will that little bit closer to peace!
Posted by: Ian at July 21, 2006 01:27 PM (KFXeM)
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His whole family are still in the UK living of the British taxpayer's that this arsehole wants to murder. I sometimes think that someone in the government is on commission from the people smugglers who have been importing several 100,000 people like him over the last few years. The army should dealing with the fifth column within the UK instead of trying to civilise places like Afghanistan, which will never be a civil society. Why do we put up with this?
Intelligence gathered from Jawa Report operatives indicated that radical Islamists linked to Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad are using The Birmingham Grid for Learning webservers to spread jihadi propaganda and recruit terrorists. These webservers are owned and operated by the Birmingham City Council. The webserver also seems to be related to various schools in Birmingham.
What we want to know is who has access to these webservers? Is an employee of the City of Birmingham, or a related school, a jihadi? I believe the people of Birmingham might be interested to know that there is a terrorist in their midst. Especially if that terrorst is teaching their children.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at February 03, 2006 12:30 PM (5ceWd)
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I hope nobody alienates these peaceful, misunderstood people, so we can dialogue with them.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 03, 2006 12:33 PM (0yYS2)
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So where are all the moderate muslims who should be counter-protesting this crap? Anyone?
Bueller?
Bueller?
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at February 03, 2006 12:54 PM (8e/V4)
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Whoa there they are all in one place calling for murder. Hmm I hate to take IM's gig but what an opportunity missed.
Posted by: Howie at February 03, 2006 12:54 PM (D3+20)
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I guess the problem for the European's is the fact they have no way to enforce their freedom of speech, or protect themselves from assault due to the restriction of Firearm's.
You cannot kill, or maim an intruder in your house in the U.K without going to jail yourself. At the same time the Police force is imploding with increasing wait time for responses and the fear of officers themselves, of entering an armed conflict without anything but a baton.
It's open season as far as the "radicals" are concerned, how can anyone defend themselves in a society that handguns are illegal, and rifle registration is given to those that have a need.
If you want to see an example of that, the day of my Grandfathers funeral, the Police came and seized his rifles until the licenses could be transferred to my Father.
Posted by: dave at February 03, 2006 01:34 PM (CcXvt)
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We must all of us stand up against the bullying and censorship of Muslim nations and domestic Muslims.
No one should feel threatened for poking a finger in the eye of Islam, any more than they should for doing so to Christianity, Judaism or Hinduism. Shutting off humorous jabs is the first step to foreclosing critical analysis. Islam desperately requires this criticism - from both within and without. Its adherents are murdering thousands around the world in its name. The rank and hysterical behaviour of the Muslims and their governments that raged against the cartoons only confirms this need.
Here in Britain, television regularly shows programs critical of Christianity that often are nothing more than ridicule and debasement of our faith. Why is this taken with annoyance, but not violence and threats?
Posted by: Paul at February 03, 2006 01:52 PM (PM/BC)
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LGF's server must be getting hammered. Can't get on the site at all.
Posted by: Oyster at February 03, 2006 02:53 PM (YudAC)
I feel for you. I don't know what I would do myself if I were disarmed, and what is happening right now has steeled my resolve to become more polically active. I have been a member of the NRA for several years, but I have decided today that I will divie up the cash and become a life member.
I will also put some more cash into buying ammunition for my firearms as they are useless without it, and my daughter is about to have some shooting lessons. My two sons are already prolific shooters and hunters. Everyone here in the US should do the same. The situation in Britain looks bad to me, but the media does have a tendency to exagerate. Maybe it isn't as bad as it looks.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 03, 2006 04:00 PM (rUyw4)
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Joe:
Don't feel bad, I left the UK 9 years ago for the U.S.
Two weeks ago bought a Winchester Model 94 Ranger, a rifle I have admired for years, but could probably never own in the U.K
Posted by: dave at February 03, 2006 04:14 PM (CcXvt)
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Behead the infidel for this. Behead the infidel for that. Friggin one trick ponies
Posted by: REMF at February 03, 2006 04:32 PM (7RMSi)
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Enjoy shooting that Winchester, dave, as I have spent many a day on a makeshift shooting range. And I recently obtained a Socom II(ouch on the price), but I had dreamed of owning one ever since Springfield came out with the M1A, I just never had the cash.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 03, 2006 04:32 PM (rUyw4)
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Boy did my blood boil when I saw these images of the rag heads publicly displaying their absolute hatred. There is nothing wrong with the infidels when they are paying up the money left and right though eh?. I´m not surprised that there was no police intervention - despite it being illeagal in he uk (lower case used purposely to indicate disrespect)to incite racial hatred. Or maybe this isn´t?¿? The ´british muslims´ can shit all over the uk quite openly as thats the way it is nowadays.....thats why I left.
Posted by: Eat his lamb at February 04, 2006 06:10 AM (bUxRY)
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Is this the religion of peace? whats with the liberals whya re they not condeming this?
Posted by: sandpiper at February 06, 2006 03:31 PM (as4nC)
16Fuck Islam, that pre-medieval death cult! If the jihadis come for me, they can talk to Mr. Benelli, who will speak on my behalf.
Posted by: Russell Whitaker at February 12, 2006 11:54 PM (bWAWp)
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There's a lot of violence in the Qu'ran, and a lot of violence in the Bible (particularily the OT). But one thing that seems unique about the Qu'ran is that it demands the killing of "unbelievers" (e.g. Surah 4:89). So, in effect, the picture shows a rather moderate muslim, who demands that only those unbelievers that "insult Islam" should be killed. I for my part will surely refrain from calling Islam a violent religion, lest gentle and peace-loving muslims cut my unbelieving head off!
Posted by: Aragorn at February 26, 2006 02:46 PM (OXXW/)
British Muslim Group: Kill Cartoon Blasphemers
British Muslims honest enough to tell us what Muhammed and his followers did to those who blasphemed: killed them. Funny, I don't recall reading any stories of the Buddha killing the Hindu Brahmans who scorned him, nor do I recall stories of Jesus murdering the Pharasees. I thought all religions were basically the same?
At the time of the Messenger Muhammad (saw) there were individuals like these who dishonoured and insulted him upon whom the Islamic judgement was executed. Such people were not tolerated in the past and throughout the history of Islam were dealt with according to the Shariah. Ka’ab ibn Ashraf was assassinated by Muhammad ibn Maslamah for harming the Messenger Muhammad (saw) by his words, Abu Raafi’ was killed by Abu Ateeq as the Messenger ordered in the most evil of ways for swearing at the prophet, Khalid bin Sufyaan was killed by Abdullah bin Anees who cut off his head and brought it to the prophet for harming the Messenger Muhammad (saw) by his insults, Al-Asmaa bintu Marwaan was killed by Umayr bin Adi’ al-Khatmi, a blind man, for writing poetry against the prophet and insulting him in it, Al-Aswad al-Ansi was killed by Fairuz al-Daylami and his family for insulting the Messenger Muhammad (saw) and claiming to be a prophet himself. This is the judgement of Islam upon those who violate, dishonour and insult the Messenger Muhammad
This part is choice. The reason we resort to terrorist tactics is because it works.
Shortly after these incidents the people began to realise that insulting the Messenger of Allah (saw) was not something to be taken lightly and that by doing so would mean that you would be killed for it, a concept that many have seem to forgotten today
And some more:
The insulting of the Messenger Muhammad (saw) is something that the Muslims cannot and will not tolerate and the punishment in Islam for the one who does so is death. This is the sunnah of the prophet and the verdict of Islam upon such people, one that any Muslim is able execute. The response of the Muslims all over the world shows us the inability to deal with such people, the kuffar are attacking our Messenger and are allowed to get away with it whilst the Muslims have no power to do anything about it. The leaders of the Muslim world have no care for the deen of Islam as they are busy cementing their seats content with their power and wealth. Where are the Muhammad ibn Maslamah’s of our ummah who will defend the honour of our beloved Messenger and rise the banner of Tawheed high?
But if they violate their oaths after their covenant, and attack your religion with disapproval and criticism then fight (you) the leaders of disbelief - for surely their oaths are nothing to them - so that they may stop (evil actions). [9:12]
And just in case they try to deny that they wrote this when the British authorities come knocking at the door, I've backed up the original webpage here. Simply click on the screen shot below of al Ghurabaa's home page to see the archived original:
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The fine fellow you speak of Rusty says horrid things about me Gran and how he wants to "gasp" put something in her Batty hole what ever that means.
So I found out where this goat shaving pimp actually sends out his hate filled spew and it is in Birmingham UK at a learning center for Kids.(with a program for adults)
I would like to punish this ass like we did Wasim.
Any ideas?
Posted by: Filthy Allah at February 02, 2006 12:05 PM (5ceWd)
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Let me think about it for a bit. Any British readers in Birmingham would be welcome to go down and check out the premises, though.
Posted by: Rusty at February 02, 2006 12:18 PM (JQjhA)
Posted by: Ariya at February 02, 2006 01:41 PM (uxW3N)
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"...I don't recall reading any stories of the Buddha killing the Hindu Brahmans who scorned him, nor do I recall stories of Jesus murdering the Pharasees. I thought all religions were basically the same?"
No, you didn't
One of the distinguishing things about Islam as practiced today is that it demands respect. Dr. Shackleford's remarks reveal moral values that even religions are subject to in the West. Man judges God, and if God demands unniceness, God is shown the door. And that's how I like it.
It's been many years (and happy ones at that) since any church in these parts managed to evoke serious killings for Jesus from the congregation. Even hinting at it is mighty fringe. Nobody sings "Onward Christian Soldiers" if he ever intends to hold public office in the U.S. While I like this, I wonder if the modern unwillingness to kill heretics, heathens and witches for the Church reflects a decline in zeal that will end in unwillingness to kill for the right to *go to* church.
For whatever faults they may have, this isn't going on with the Muslim. Quite the contrary. They demand respect for their religion, and they get it. Just ask our recently unemployed French newspaper editor. They get respect from me too. I respect Islam, the power of nature, rattlesnakes, and a big, drunk trucker whose wife I bumped into. A wise man might make jokes about these things, but only from a safe distance. It doesn't look like Europe will be safe enough.
Posted by: ShannonKW at February 02, 2006 01:42 PM (dT1MB)
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Several websites I visit have been flakey all day. LGF also off and on
Posted by: Howie at February 02, 2006 01:47 PM (D3+20)
Anyone care to discuss what they think is the difference between free speech and hate speech? As a firm believer in free speech and an incredulous observer of recent events regarding those very unexciting cartoons, this seems very important.
Brad Pitt poses as Jesus Christ without much comment, and yet handdrawn silly cartoons of you-know-who causes riots and death threats?????? And the "accepted" rationale (by some) is that the cartoons are somehow "hate speech?" --something is seriously out of whack.
In the West, I think we work under the assumption that you shouldn't engage in hate speech. SO this hate speech rationale is currently being used by some to justify the censorship of free speech.
So, it is important to decide: when does something become hate speech? Is it in the eye of the beholder? or is it the intent of the speaker? Or, is it the norm of the day which sets the standard? Are there different norms for different groups? (OK to satirize Christians, not ok to satirize Muslims) etc.
Posted by: Patty at February 02, 2006 01:51 PM (aH6Zf)
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I started to get worried when the tree I was hiding behind started to shout "THERE IS A JEW HIDING BEHIND ME!"
*yawn*
My second amendment rights are there to protect my first amendment rights.
Posted by: Laurence Simon at February 02, 2006 02:05 PM (uBCxH)
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Actually Shannon, the muslims aren't demanding respect for their religion, they're demanding FEAR of their religion, there's a difference. Respect is a two way street. If that's what they were looking for, they would seek to achieve it by showing tolerance and co-operation with other religions and the laws of their adopted countries. When violence is used or even merely threatened, debilitating fear is the goal. If that rattlesnake, or even the big, drunk trucker moved onto your property and started restricting your movement and activities, would your "respect" keep you from doing anything about it, or would you make a stand?
Posted by: Graeme at February 02, 2006 02:10 PM (CQyra)
Maybe classifying hostile talk as "hate speech" and banning it is a bad idea in the first place. You can't keep people from hating each other. We should encourage them to announce their hatred and whom they hate. Wouldn't you rather know who your enemies are? Besides, it's a big help to the boys at Homicide.
The concept of hate speech has mommy-thinking written all over it. There is a certain kind of domesticated, overcivilized person who thinks that if you force everyone to talk nice to each other that means we're all friends. It probably explains why hate speech has caught on among the Euros more than the Americans.
Posted by: ShannonKW at February 02, 2006 02:13 PM (dT1MB)
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This is the MSM elite liberals fault, and Clinton!
Just wanted to get that of the way to clear up the discussion.
Carry on.
Posted by: Human-Animal-Hybrid at February 02, 2006 02:34 PM (YClF7)
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No, it's clearly "Bush's" fault, and "Pat Robertson's" fault.
Islam is coming out of the closet. If Libtards still can't see it, it's because they don't want to see it. Because they see the world as they wish it were, not as it is.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at February 02, 2006 02:37 PM (8e/V4)
Of course not, but then again I'm wierd. I'm trying to keep alive the ancient tradition of respecting my enemies. So, the interloping big, drunk trucker on my property would get not mockery and insulting jokes from me, but a shotgun blast to the chest. That's my idea of respect.
It's interesting that you should point out the distinction between fear and respect. In religious context they traditionally mean the same thing. The last passage in the Old Testament (if memory serves) "Fear God and keep the commandments" is a fine example. I think modern Christians are prone to distinguish fear from respect in this case, but I suspect the cartoon-raging crowd does not.
Posted by: ShannonKW at February 02, 2006 02:37 PM (dT1MB)
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Sounds like if cartoonists kill Muslims it should be considered self-defense now.
As far as Hate Speech goes, I find it funny that the only people who practice hate are only in White Face, never in a turbin with a koran or anyone else. How odd that liberals would conjure up such a phrase and only use it against one group to berate them. How very odd for them to call themselves tolerant too. Also how odd they call for toleration of everything that is intolerable, least you be called a "hater." Sounds like this "tolerance" they prattle about is really a clarion call for being a sniveling coward in the face of an enemy that has openly said they'll kill you.
Time for the balls to drop and become men again.
Posted by: Andre at February 02, 2006 02:40 PM (bQ3vG)
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Don't be dissin' Mo n' his homies or day be bustin' caps on yo ass n' all over da place! PEACE V
Violence and fear of violence - that's Islam's answer - to cartoons. Respect us and don't do anything to offend us in our home (or your home for that matter) or we will hurt you!
Some answer - says a lot about them.
Anyone want to dance around this - the violence and threat of - IS REAL!
Interesting part is whether it works or not. I think it will with the Euros and other similars around the world. And the next issue that comes to the surface - say like honor killings - then what?
Violence and the threat of violence does work and is an effective tool in dealing with the weak of knee and spirit.
Posted by: hondo at February 02, 2006 02:41 PM (3aakz)
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I hope the local 'slamotards get uppity, but this is the South, so they probably know better.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 02, 2006 02:51 PM (0yYS2)
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Well, I'm only asking us to clarify "hate" speech versus "free" speech because Clinton is getting press and he is basically claiming that the publication of the cartoons constitutes "hate" speech. He's the only politician I see saying anything about this and he's on the wrong side - watch this become the topic of MSM discussion rather than the reality that there are a group of madmen afoot who terrorize for submission.
Posted by: Patty at February 02, 2006 03:09 PM (aH6Zf)
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Like beauty - it is in the eye of the beholder - or in his particular case - the opportunist.
Posted by: hondo at February 02, 2006 03:14 PM (3aakz)
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I feel a "No, I am Spartacus" moment coming on. Been reading about alot of other papers now publishing the cartoons. Maybe I'll make a few copies myself for distribution here and there.
Posted by: Patty at February 02, 2006 03:24 PM (aH6Zf)
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This website has been called a 'hate' site because we hate the religious fascism of Sharia.
Just thought I'd throw that in there.
Posted by: Rusty at February 02, 2006 03:25 PM (JQjhA)
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Gawd, calling this a hate site. The people who do that should get off their soapbox and the dole, get out experience life, get a job and a life too.
Posted by: Andre at February 02, 2006 03:28 PM (bQ3vG)
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I understand what Shannon is saying about "respect". He means respect in same manner I do; having a healthy respect for what they are capable of rather than they themselves or the ideology.
And keeping an equalizer close at hand. Meet Señor Glock!
Posted by: Oyster at February 02, 2006 03:40 PM (5pqct)
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Ah, Senor Glock, meet Socom. He is your daddy! And perhaps we now know why no radical Muslims in the US are making death threats. They are used to making every kind of threat in Britain with nothing being done, but threats here in the US will land them in jail or on the virgin train.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 02, 2006 03:45 PM (rUyw4)
Sad day when an anti-Sharia site is considered a "hate" site. Under Sharia, I would have no freedom at all. In fact, I believe I would be chattel. That's a very frightening and humbling thought which is why i thank you for this site.
Posted by: Patty at February 02, 2006 03:48 PM (aH6Zf)
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oh, Patty, you're just being ethnocentric. Try not to be so close-minded and intolerant about it. It's their "culture", which means it's all good.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at February 02, 2006 04:13 PM (8e/V4)
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Hate is an emotion that keeps us from being suckered by liberals.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 02, 2006 05:47 PM (0yYS2)
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I prefer common sense and faith Maxie - hate doesn't do anything for me.
Posted by: hondo at February 02, 2006 07:23 PM (3aakz)
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They are an entire race of sociopaths. Islam represents the last holdout of the caveman. The world would be so much better off without it and muhammad and allah.
Posted by: antimuhammad at February 03, 2006 12:27 AM (ifHl0)
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Common sense and faith are what keeps civilized people from doing what they desperately need to do. Hate is the safety valve to keep everyone from being slaughtered like sheep by the barbarians of the world. Islam is a plague, and if more decent people don't embrace a healthy hatred of islam, we will keep allowing the plague rats to scurry amongst us.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 03, 2006 09:32 AM (0yYS2)
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03FEB06 I came across the news item about "the world's 1.2 billion Muslims" being enraged by the cartoon depicting Allah in a Danish news paper back in September. (Interestingly, I can't find it anywhere so as to take a look at what all the fuss is about.) It appears many of these (Muslims) now feel justified in calling for the perpetrators of said affront to Islam to be hunted down and killed. What we increasingly seem to be dealing with is - an issue of soverignty. Does Islamic law supercede the laws of the West and those of other cultures? If I'm not mistaken, they (the Muslims) seem to think so. They do not make the distinction between politics and religion and believe it is their Manifest Destiny (sound familiar to you Americans?) to impose their grotesquely violent, hypocritical, pious, medieval Islam on Allah's Allah-Forsaken Earth. Can they dissuaded from following their jihaddist path? Can they be persuaded to be tolerant of others and their beliefs? Can they be persuaded to integrate their culture with the other cultures of the world community? What have we seen since Usama declared jihad on America? What have we seen in Iraq, in Afghanistan, Iran, Palestine, and Syria? Should we continue to sit on our thumbs? Most hormonally imbalanced, ignorant male Muslim jihaddists don't live long enough to see their 40th birthday, they are always eager to go out and kill where they think the odds are in their favor. Like all people their age they think they are indestructable because they are both stupid and ignorant. Eventually, they wake up dead. Interstingly, when the old Islamic degenerates pulling the puppet strings survive an attempt on their lives they are more than willing to adopt the enlightened philosophy of negotiation and compromise or at least affect to do so. They'll do anything to keep things exactly so that they can continue to be in charge and alive. Either Islam will have to change or it will have to be eradicated like Islam has attempted to eradicate Zoroastrianism. The change will have to come from the top down, like everything else in a medieval society, and will have to be enforced upon the Islamic elite with the very methodology used in imposing Islam upon others: violence and death.
Posted by: Don R. d V. at February 03, 2006 09:42 AM (DHx5e)
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Graeme put it right: Respect needs to be earned. Respect to me means sensing an essential goodness in a person, e.g. love, compassion, generosity and truthfulness. Jesus Christ, Buddha or Ghandi, for instance, command my respect.
Fear, on the other hand, is much easier to obtain, any school bully with a baseball bat can do the trick.
No matter how much fear threats against "kuffar" will be able to incite, they will not bring forth even one grain of respect. Quite the contrary.
Posted by: No to Sharia at February 26, 2006 03:31 PM (OXXW/)
E-Mail a British Jihad Terror Supporter
E-mail terror supporter Asad Ullah here islam4uk@hotmail.co.uk. He is the registered owner of the 'Saved Sect' website which supports exiled cleric Omar Bakri Muhammad, most famous for saying:
there is no doubt that fighting the enemy, whether close to you or far away, is a duty upon Muslims, especially after the criminals, aggressors and occupiers have spread their atrocities and corruption among the believers and in their homeland, and have violated the sanctities of Allah
Omar Bakri Mohammed, the spiritual leader of the extremist sect al-Muhajiroun, said that holding women and children hostage would be a reasonable course of action for a Muslim who has suffered under British rule.
Therefore, dear brothers and sisters know that democracy and "freedom" are both forms of taaghout, and hence, it is a prerequisite of being a Muslim to reject these and declare animosity towards them.
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Islam is incompatible with liberty, and thus has no place in the civilized world. Muslims should be made to understand that they are not welcome and should go back to the godforsaken rat nests whence they spawned.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 11, 2006 03:18 PM (0yYS2)
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Islam is incompatible with democracy? he sure accepted support of the British Government in the form of a welfare check every two weeks?
If you think the U.S welfare system is insane, you should see the U.K welfare system, with housing paid for, a bi-weekly check and an incremental payment for each child you have (independent of income you could be a millionare and still get it) foodstamps for children, and school uniform vouchers.
Why ever work?
Posted by: dave at January 11, 2006 03:26 PM (CcXvt)
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Dave, how did you read liberty and come out with democracy? The two aren't interchangable, although it is possible to have liberty without democracy, though not the other way around.
Anyway, muslims are parasitic vermin, and should be exterminated.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 11, 2006 03:49 PM (0yYS2)
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IM:
I was replying to this comment:
These bastards even issued a fatwa against democracy:
Therefore, dear brothers and sisters know that democracy and "freedom" are both forms of taaghout, and hence, it is a prerequisite of being a Muslim to reject these and declare animosity towards them.
Posted by: dave at January 11, 2006 03:54 PM (CcXvt)
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LOL, this guy is going to get some nasty emails and death threats.
Posted by: George Ramos at January 11, 2006 03:55 PM (5E0ex)
Posted by: BWE at January 11, 2006 03:57 PM (yQGkF)
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I'm still getting over the shock that the Brits grew the spine to kick this Omar fellow out, common sense would dictate, when a fellow hates his country and actively works to undermine it, then you help him on his way.
We in Australia have a similar welfare system to the UK, on our side, we have a fellow who spent 2+ years in Gitmo enjoying your hospitality and under the close watch of human rights groups, he has since returned to Australia, is living off a disability pension. Funny thing is he participated in a marathon here since his return and has no problems giving talks at left wing institutions and getting paid for it.
meanwhile, we the stupid taxpayer is not entitled to know the nature of his disability due to privacy laws, no such protection for us when people like him are helping themselves to our wallets though.
Posted by: MathewK at January 11, 2006 04:01 PM (pVHqF)
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Dave, Bakri is so willing to accept a welfare cheque because in his opinion, he has every right to live in Britain. In '04 when I was studying in London, I listened to a radio interview with him. The interviewer (who was becoming quite pissed off) asked him why he was staying in Britain if he didn't like the laws. His reponse was that Allah created the world and as a muslim he can live in any part of the world he chooses. That interview was the first time I had come close to hurling an appliance out the window.
Posted by: Graeme at January 11, 2006 04:07 PM (qxvHt)
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No death threats or threats of any kind, please!
BWE--you are an idiot.
Posted by: Rusty at January 11, 2006 04:13 PM (JQjhA)
You raised an interesting point. I heard another of the jihadists, I can't remember his name, saying that Allah expected them to live off welfare in an attempt to bankrupt the infidel nations they live in. Perhaps it was Omar Bakri himself, I'm not sure.
But the point we should all get is that the jihadists are prepared to use the institutions of the West to destroy the West, and if you look around, they appear to be very successful in what they are attempting to do.
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 11, 2006 04:21 PM (rUyw4)
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Asking a Jihadi to be loyal to a country, is like asking your dog to stop licking his balls.
Posted by: dave at January 11, 2006 04:44 PM (CcXvt)
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Hey BWE you retarded moron, I'm the resident atheist on this blog, and I have a hard enough time trying to convince people that we're not all a bunch of idiots like you, and then an idiot like you shows up and spouts something stupid, and I have to start all over again. Now, to answer your question; yes, Christians are better. If that fact isn't clear to you, you should move to Saudi Arabia. Dumbass.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 11, 2006 05:23 PM (0yYS2)
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BWE I forgive your stupid ass, they behead your stupid ass.
Posted by: Brad at January 11, 2006 06:57 PM (3OPZt)
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By the way Dave, I couldn't have put it better myself, but I will add this: At least dogs are good for something.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 11, 2006 07:32 PM (0yYS2)
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Why would you ask a dog to stop licking his balls? If you could lick your balls, would you stop?
IM- You got a problem with retarded morons? I see our christian leaders doing roughly equivalent things only from the stronger position. But, I am a retarded moron in fact so I am glad you forgive me and I prefer not being beheaded. I need quite a bit of forgiveness these days I notice. I am afraid I might go to hell. But I do know that athiests don't have any kind of monopoly on the truth. God will punish those of us who do not tether stray goats and find the owners. Believe it or perish!
Posted by: BWE at January 12, 2006 01:41 AM (yQGkF)
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You might have a fetish for licking balls, don't project it.
Posted by: dave at January 12, 2006 02:41 PM (CcXvt)
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BWE, that above, and the crap on your hilarious yet pathetic excuse for a blog, is so stupid it's not even wrong, because something has to at least make a little sense to be wrong.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 12, 2006 04:29 PM (0yYS2)
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I didn't say that islam is good. I said that it's not worse. Since making sense is not one of my strong suits, I am forced to rely on the next best alternative.
Posted by: BWE at January 12, 2006 05:04 PM (yQGkF)
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Fetish? Oh c'mon. You've never envied that particular talent? Truth now.
Posted by: BWE at January 12, 2006 05:08 PM (yQGkF)
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 12, 2006 07:28 PM (0yYS2)
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IM, it's not just this blog. The weirdos are every fricking where. I think this one is from Washingstan, which seems to be a hotbed of moonbats. Must be the climate.
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 12, 2006 07:53 PM (rUyw4)
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I resent that. I am interested in serious discussion. I am absolutely against islam and any other brainwashing technique. You dismissed my comment and called me stupid before you considered it. I would say that maybe your closed minds hurt and that's why you're all so cranky. Lighten up, smoke a joint. And c'mon, you know you'd do it if ya could with the flexible spine.
PS Saudi Oregon, not Washingstan. And yes, the climate makes us wierd. You should see me in my Tarzan outfit! It's something to see.
Posted by: BWE at January 12, 2006 09:36 PM (yQGkF)
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No, that would be Oregonistan, moonbat central, where second hand smoke not only kills you but gets you high. Been there, it's pretty to look at, but the people on the coast suck. There are a few normal people who live in rural areas, but not enough to offset the lunatics that inhabit the coastal areas and Portland.
Actually, the whole Left Coast is like that, so I'm not just picking on Oregonistan. Won't be seeing you anytime soon, BWE, so WATCH OUT FOR THAT TREE!
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 13, 2006 10:27 AM (rUyw4)
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Is there a problem with getting high off secondhand smoke? Definitly saves money what with the high price of organic pot these days. And speaking of, have you seen the price of Tofu lately? It is too bad that we outlawed gay marriage though. Now my neigbor won't be able to marry his dog. Oh the envy he feels as he watches it's spine curved in such a breathtaking arc. And without the sanctity of marriage he will never have carnal knowledge of its mysteries.
BTW, thanks for the compliment on my blog. I write usually after leaving secondhand areas.
Posted by: BWE at January 13, 2006 02:18 PM (yQGkF)
Treasonous Cleric Flees England
Bird escapes cage to rejoin flock? Tim from Opinion Bug e-mails me this from the BBC:
A controversial Islamic cleric has left the UK for the Middle East amid speculation he would be investigated for treason, said his spokesman.
Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed - former head of radical group Al Muhajiroun - left on Saturday for Lebanon, his colleague Anjem Choudary told the BBC....
Mr Choudary said the cleric believed "Britain had declared war on Muslims".
England declared war on Muslims? Let's see, in England you can practice your Islamic faith, including openly proseletyzing Christians to become Muslims. Is there a single Islamic country that can say the same? No? QED.
UPDATE: Good discussion by Megan McArdle on this over at he-who-will-not-be-named's blog and by Gene Volokh. I would only add that speech laws must be context oriented. What one can say in a time of peace must be different than in a time of war. Those that think otherwise must share a different value system than myself. Personally, I think human life is much more valuable than speech. If killing the enemy is legitimate, then stifling his speech must also be.
UPDATE II: From the vast Jawa archives comes this quote from Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed. Traitor? You be the judge:
If an Iraqi Muslim carried out an attack like that in Britain, it would be justified because Britain has carried out acts of terrorism in Iraq.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 08, 2005 02:16 PM (x+5JB)
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Well, it is if they get to define the words. Something the left is very comfortable doing.
OTOH, England comes close to outlawing "premeditated self-defense".
Posted by: Phillep at August 08, 2005 02:35 PM (c2ZEH)
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I like how this is turning out. Get all those trash talking leeches out of the Western hemisphere. Hopefully this is just the beginning.
Posted by: REMF at August 08, 2005 02:43 PM (aLiCo)
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YES YES, ENGLAND HAS DECLARED WAR ON ISLAM, NOW GET THE F-CK OUT ALL OF YOU.
Posted by: Carlos at August 08, 2005 02:48 PM (8e/V4)
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Enoch Powell is a prophet..all he predicted is happening but the left wingers would never admit it. Islam is the cancer of the western world.
Posted by: Jester at August 08, 2005 03:13 PM (2FYdV)
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It will be interesting to see where this lovely human turns up next.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 08, 2005 03:18 PM (x+5JB)
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yes, he is free to continue his hatefull poisining of young Mulsims minds in some other country but at least some of the British will sleep a bit better knowing that this scum isnt in some English mosque stirring up a riot or murder...and he cant hide behind English laws now, hopefully he will be find somewhere in Iraq by one of our US Marines as he attempts to sneak across the border with some fellow terrorists, and well, you take it from there what happens next
Posted by: THANOS35 at August 08, 2005 03:46 PM (IJ51c)
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not to be a f**king know it all, but I think you want QED, which is often seen after a mathematical proof, quod erat demonstrandum, which was to be proved.
i guess QID could be queer inserts dick in the context of the post though.
Posted by: Mr. K at August 08, 2005 03:53 PM (eQVGl)
Radical Islamic Cleric in England Continues to Preach Hate
In the wake of the second terrorist attack in England, radical Islamic cleric Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed seems to be more of an idiot than previously believed. The English government is drafting new laws to make this type of "hate speech" outlawed and deciding whether certain clerics who are urging jihad and terrorist attacks are worthy of deportation or imprisonment.
This doesn't stop Mohammed though as today he said attacks will continue until British soldiers are out of Iraq and Afghanistan (via Euphoric Reality).
"What happened yesterday confirmed that as long as the cause and the root problem is still there ... we will see the same effect we saw on July 7," Bakri said.
"If the cause is still there the effect will happen again and again," he said, adding he had no information about future attacks or contacts with people planning to carry out attacks.
Bakri, a Syrian-born cleric who has been vilified in Britain since 2001 when he praised the September 11 hijackers, said he did not believe the bombings and attempted attacks on London were carried out by British Muslims.
The 'root cause', as Mohammed sees it is not radical Islam or his asinine ramblings, it is the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We must continue to remind these people of low intellect that there were in fact terrorist attacks before either war.
Mohammed tries to condemn the attacks against innocents, yet he supports the killing of Muslims throughout the Middle East. What is Mohammed's goal?
"I would like to see the Islamic flag fly, not only over number 10 Downing Street, but over the whole world," he said.
That too is the goal of radical Islam as a whole. I cannot say this enough even if I sound like a broken record. Radical Islam wants to turn the entire world into a Caliphate state where Sharia Law is the only law and we are all mindless followers of the only religion people like Mohammed sees fit. As I've said before, I refuse to be a pawn.
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Idiot muslims and liberal muslim supporters need to be reminded constantly that the attack of the World Trade Center and Pentagon happened before we went to Afghanistan and Iraq. The muslim terrorist attack on us is why we went to Afghanistan and Iraq. To put a stop to it. Dumbasses just can't seem to accept this fact. Fact #2. The attack on the United States was planned while the cheating bastard Clinton was president. It was conceived and planned well before President Bush was elected. It was thought of and put into action when Clinton was invading every little country that couldn't fight back. When they did, Clinton ran and called the troops back. Dumb shit, stupid muslims and their asshole lying supporters just don't get it. Tony Blair and President Bush are living heros. They are standing up to a situation completely caused by the previous administration that was made up of old ladies and midgets. Clinton's cowardous gave the terrorists confidence. They never figured on Bush and Blair going after them. Clinton would have ran as he did in Somalia. Bush is getting the respect back that the Clinton administration lost. You don't have to be the most popular person in a company, Government or whatever to be respected. But to run it you must let those less than you know that you are in charge. President Bush and Tony Blair have had to fight two wars. One against the muslim asshole terrorists. One against the idiot muslim hugging cowards in their own countries. I believe they are both heros and the finest leadership either country has had in many a year.
I don't expect everyone to see this as it does take some depth of thought.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 23, 2005 04:54 PM (CBNGy)
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>>>"The English government is drafting new laws to make this type of "hate speech" outlawed and deciding whether certain clerics who are urging jihad and terrorist attacks are worthy of deportation or imprisonment.
That's very good. In the meantime, however, you will continue to stroke him the welfare checks he is so very much entitled to. You gotta love Liberalism.
Posted by: Carlos at July 23, 2005 06:08 PM (8e/V4)
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Yep, the guy that got his head blown off in London was a Brazilian electrician. This war on terror is a nutcase psycho ward excuse for raging gubbamint violence.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 06:45 PM (ScqM8)
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I will give a nickle to the punter that drains this cleric's head.
That is all this bearded fuckers life is worth now.
I put a fatwa out on his ass.
TO ALL PUNTERS AND SPIVS! DRAIN THIS FUCKERS HEAD!!!!!
Posted by: obsnooks at July 23, 2005 06:53 PM (xdqZV)
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>>>"Yep, the guy that got his head blown off in London was a Brazilian electrician."
What the hell does his nationality or profession have to do with it? He could be a Malagasy electrician for all I care. He refused to stop, he got shot. Evolution at work.
Posted by: Carlos at July 23, 2005 06:58 PM (8e/V4)
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obsnooky - are saying people should kill over speech? Slime-mouth-Greyrooster, so what do you think provoked those 9/11 bastards to come to America and blow up the buildings? It wasn't Islam, idiot. It was Da Gabbamint's hijinks overseas that da Gubbamint doesn't tell you about. Uncle Sammy has been on a worldwide resource rape-fest for years, pissing on hundreds of millions of people to snatch their oil and minerals. Bastards have taken your flag, thrown it over other countries and blanket partied them with coups, bombs and wars. No wonder they hate us, dickwad!!
So screw your blind jingoist patriotism, lynch-master of the forest - your life is a lie and your breath smells like a chickenhouse.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 07:13 PM (ScqM8)
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>>>"Uncle Sammy has been on a worldwide resource rape-fest for years, pissing on hundreds of millions of people to snatch their oil and minerals."
And paying top dollar for it. The mooooslims would be eating sand if it weren't for Uncle Sam.
Posted by: Carlos at July 23, 2005 07:21 PM (8e/V4)
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Now American troops are eating their sand, Carlos
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 07:47 PM (ScqM8)
Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 07:51 PM (D3+20)
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hey DSM , if youre so supper smart, and from what ive seen, youre not, but lets say you are....lets see you come up with a better way to run the ENTIRE American government, you fucking armchair general with youre little peanut sized brain in youre big shark sized mouth
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 08:00 PM (9gFP6)
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Now can Down Syndrome Meme get banned?
he's getting as stupid and pointless as BLSD, and his repetitive drivel needs to stop.
Posted by: dave at July 23, 2005 08:01 PM (DO6vD)
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greyrooster has it right...were where you, DSM , when Clinton did NOTHING when the first bomb went off in the WTC back in the 90's????....you were probally sucking on ole Slick Willys wang, sharing it with that other whore....you probally cheered every thing Willy did, didnt you, you fucking terrorist loving whore, didnt ya, bitch???....oh of course, it was fine for the married President of the USA, Bill Clinton, to be having an affair right in the Oval Office, right on the desk that many great President of this country have say at and signed documents that made this country strong and great...you would have us all on our knees, bowing down to our Muslim overlords,praying to a death god who needs blood, dont you, you freaking heathen...go back under that rock you crawled out from under, you scumbag
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 08:12 PM (9gFP6)
Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 08:17 PM (D3+20)
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Ok, TANOS, first, I'd run da GUBBAMINT within Kyoto, within ICC and stop rampaging around with DA MILITRY. Counterterror would be kept in the shadows and not a "noisy american spectacle". Patriot ACt would be shut down and border control strenghtened with 100,000 troops brought back from Iraq. My only bad and immoral thing would be to get a small LRRP sniper squad into afghanistan to take down Bin Laden PERMANENTLY, once and for all.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 08:29 PM (ScqM8)
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My sincere apologies to Chad for touching his thread.
Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 08:45 PM (D3+20)
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well i can say if theres more bombs in the uk i bet you ll get some british nutters blowing up muslin places. this will happen it will get out of control british people will not take this, so a search for a group call combat 18 and there brother groups
http://www.whitepower.co.uk/bally.jpg
Posted by: noname at July 23, 2005 08:46 PM (eFuj0)
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Heh. I don't waste time arguing with idiots who use three different screen names to strengthen his arguments, Howie. I prefer to laugh a bit more.
Posted by: Chad Evans at July 23, 2005 08:53 PM (Ievlo)
Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 09:04 PM (D3+20)
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Howie, there's nothing to apoligize for. I just meant that in this particular thread, there is basically one dissenter and it's the same dissenter who uses three different . . . nevermind.
Your comments, like everyone else's, are more than welcomed no matter how many personalities you bring to the table. Hey, there wouldn't be a comments section of the authors didn't want to hear any feedback.
Here's a bit of trivia. I'm sure greyrooster knows the answer. Which United States president used the United States military more in terms of sending it to the most foreign countries other than FDR?
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Kyoto???....you believe that garbage???....you think that the world can actually change something that is a naturally occuring act???....lemme tell ya something DSM....one, only one, volcano, when it erupts can pump out more toxic and deadly poisinous gases than the entire USA industry could....the world goes threw warming and cooling trends and has been for millions, if not billions of years, long before the first human like creature stood upright on this planet and humans have the arrogance to think they can stop an act of nature???...might as well as stop a hurricane in its tracks by blowing a fan in its direction, may as well stop an eartquake.....get it, its an act oif nature or if you like, an act of God...we can not stop the earth from warming up or cooling down....check up on the facts....
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 09:16 PM (9gFP6)
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second, how would you keep the fight on terrorism in the shadows???....know what the press is???...the internet???...how do you keep such a huge amount of violence out of the news and away from the public???...and you seem to be the one who blames Bush for having secrets and here you are saying that you would conduct something in secret....hypocrisy, anyone???.....why should it be bad and immoral to kill a murdering terrorist like Bin Laden???....would you feel bad for a man eating shark, that killed and ate a few innocent children swimming in the ocean, when it is finally found and shot???....please...you put down a rabid, sick dog without mercy,without remorse, just like Bin Laden, because you would be doing society a big favor
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 09:23 PM (9gFP6)
Yes chad I understand. I've been working watching him all day. I just got fed up. I'm extremely extremely tolerant but I take insults to the Jawa quite personally.
Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 09:24 PM (D3+20)
Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 09:26 PM (D3+20)
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hmm. interesting. leak the nicks he uses other than DSM? Take out the trash!
Posted by: dave at July 23, 2005 09:48 PM (DO6vD)
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DSM said to obsnooks: "...are saying people should kill over speech?"
I'm saying that. Yes, definitely. If someone stands up and says "kill the Jews, kill the Americans, kill the infidels, kill them wherever you find them." Then I say put a black bag team on him ASAP, along with anyone who was nodding in agreement when he said it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 23, 2005 09:56 PM (0yYS2)
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IMPY, fly to Britain AND GUT SOME FISH AND CHIPS!! That preacher prick is hanging out at the same street corner day in and day out, he's not hard to find. Just get on a plane!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 11:10 PM (ScqM8)
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IMPY, you live in NJ and can get to the UK in less than 24 hours from now.
Here is the chap you love so much: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1777503.stm
Here is the address of the mosque of the chap you love so much: http://www.salaam.co.uk/mosques/searchmosque.php?orgcode=121
Here is a map to his preaching spot: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=531402&y=186591&z=0&sv=N4%202QH&st=PostCode&lu=N&tl=~&ar=y&bi=~&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 11:33 PM (ScqM8)
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I am saying that someone should drain his head. Just like that filth JFK had done.
Posted by: obsnooks at July 24, 2005 07:35 AM (xdqZV)
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THANOS:'hey DSM , if youre so supper smart, and from what ive seen, youre not'
I love it when someone insinuates that another is stupid and then misspells words in their adversarial post.
"SUPPER"?
Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 01:14 PM (/+dAV)
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calling the kettle black,eh childmolester greg???
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 24, 2005 04:48 PM (9gFP6)
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Now Greg. I detected that you had somehow gotten a little wiser lately. But there you go slipping back into the old grove. Whenever you agree with garbage such as Downing Street Moron you demean yourself. Downing Street Moron has replaced you as the most hated idiot on this blog. Jealous? Are you trying to get back to #1? Back it off and maybe, just maybe, someone will give interest to what you have to say. In the past, when you post something the immediate respond has been more stupid bullshit from the America hater. Now, that Downing Street Moron has replaced you are #1 bullshitter you should take advantage of the situation. That is, if you really have something meaningful to say. Which I still doubt. But anyone can leave the dark side and be enlightened. Think about it.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 24, 2005 05:19 PM (CBNGy)
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BUSH is a traitor, Rooster, America knows it and now you fight the Red White and Blue. So sad, as the country is leaving you behind.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 10:37 PM (ScqM8)
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Wrong you America hating, muslim loving pile of pig shit. America is joining me more and more everyday. America is tired of shit of the likes of you. You who give aid and comfort to the enemy. You are a traitor and deserve to be treated as such. Of course, to be a traitor you much first be an American. Which you ain't. But we will get you anyway. You have defiled my country, its elected leaders, its military heros. You have lied about all the aforementioned. You are a traitor. You will get yours. Time is on Americas side. We will demand that traitors like you be punished for their crimes against this nation. You will not walk free.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 02:18 AM (CBNGy)
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Bush and Klanooster will share the same prison cell once this horrible war for oil is over and Bin Laden is dead like the gopher I blew away.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 02:35 AM (ScqM8)
The tragic 911 horrified everyone in the world, including Muslims, Jews and Christians. But what most people have never known is that this tragedy was put together by the US as an excuse way back in the 60's when (possibly the greatest) President Kennedy was in power. They were going to use this incident than to attack Cuba. This did not happen as the President rejected the idea. But decades down the line a hard line Christian Fundamentalist did not think of the consequences and jumped to the idea. This was all planned, Bin Ladden was a CIA man, and I really feel sorry for the American people. Why should a toss pot like Bush drag this good nation into such hatred of the east? As you are aware Islam has grown considerably, and Bush and others realized this has become a threat to America a long time ago Believe me, every incident you here is all conspiracy. The Member of Parliament Robin Cook dies suddenly! The poor guy was totally against this War and resigned. They killed him off and made it look like a heart Attack. It’s not hard for the government to do this, believe me. It’s a shame there is so much hatred. Before Bush came to power a good President was in power called Clinton. Ok he was not perfect but no way was there so much tension and hatred in the world as there is today. So thank you President Monkey Bush, 3 more years of this? What next Iran. Obviously. If the Jews get there way they will use the thick headed President to bomb Iran. But why? What have they done to hurt anyone? Who has used nuclear in the past 60 years? I hope that these 3 years go by quickly and someone with some brains brings stability to the world before a 3rd world war faces us. God help us from the hands of a mad Christian fundamentalist! One last point. Were you aware that the President great grandfather had a book published against the Islam religion? Look it up. Thanks for your time.
Posted by: CIA at August 13, 2005 01:18 PM (z3qsE)
LONDON (Reuters) - Militant Islamists will continue to attack Britain until the government pulls its troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, one of the country's most outspoken Islamic clerics said on Friday.
Speaking 15 days after bombers killed over 50 people in London and a day after a series of failed attacks on the city's transport network, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed said the British capital should expect more violence.
"What happened yesterday confirmed that as long as the cause and the root problem is still there ... we will see the same effect we saw on July 7," Bakri said.
I love how he takes adavantage of a FAILED bombing to threaten that similiar incidents will occur until the Brits pull out of Iraq.
Bakri, a Syrian-born cleric who has been vilified in Britain since 2001 when he praised the September 11 hijackers, said he did not believe the bombings and attempted attacks on London were carried out by British Muslims.
He condemned the killing of all innocent civilians but described attacks on British and U.S. troops in Muslim countries as "pro-life" and justified.
He's been vilified? Awww. I feel so sorry for him. I mean, he only justified mass murder while living in the place where the mass murder occured. It's kind of like walking into a black church and justifying the KKK.
In an interview with Reuters, Bakri described Osama bin Laden, leader of the radical Islamist network al Qaeda, as "a sincere man who fights against evil forces."
Bakri said he would like Britain to become an Islamic state but feared he would be deported before his dream was realized.
"I would like to see the Islamic flag fly, not only over number 10 Downing Street, but over the whole world," he said.
That is a dare, my friends. Deportation? You'd better believe it. If Tony Blair has an ounce of courage, he'll deport this guy for treason. Let him put his money where his mouth is right alongside his terrorist homies in the Middle East.
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I agree with his main point,"the cause and the root problem is there".
Yes,people like him and his kind are in my country,that is the problem.
Posted by: Brian at July 22, 2005 11:54 AM (n2sxj)
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If British-born muslims attack their own country because they don't like its foreign policy (the "root causes"), then that is an admission that their loyalties lie elsewhere. They are not British, so let the deportations begin.
Posted by: Carlos at July 22, 2005 11:55 AM (8e/V4)
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Carlos: Not only do militants like Bakri not like Britain's foreign policy, they also don't like its everyday, domestic government. One wonders what he and others like him are doing there. England should throw this creep out.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 22, 2005 12:01 PM (x+5JB)
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"If British-born muslims attack their own country because they don't like its foreign policy (the "root causes"), then that is an admission that their loyalties lie elsewhere. They are not British, so let the deportations begin"
i agree deport them and their families to the country where they fled from.
Posted by: noname at July 22, 2005 12:01 PM (eFuj0)
I agree entirely. And I think the same thing should happen here. Yesterday.
Posted by: Labosseuse at July 22, 2005 12:06 PM (Xjv2p)
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I saw him on TV, and he was wishing Bin Laden continued safety,
they also asked him about him taking Government Welfare money. Yes, British taxpayers pay this guy to live there! he has no job and he said he was entitled to all the entitlements that come with British Citizenship (e.g Dole money).
Posted by: dave at July 22, 2005 01:21 PM (DO6vD)
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Send him to Dayton. He just might be the missing big hairy beaver.
Posted by: Charles at July 22, 2005 02:53 PM (lQ1Or)
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Uh you mean hang him for treason in public. I think the brits are starting to get pissed off.
Posted by: Howie at July 22, 2005 03:13 PM (D3+20)
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either that idiot should actually hope he is stripped of his British citizenship and deported back to some Muslims shithole or else some British citizens are going to take justice into their own hands and give Bakri the beating of a lifetime and in my eyes and many other people he would deserve every single punch and kick of it for saying that England deserved the terrorist bombings....every dog has its day and his is coming, filthy, uncivilized Mulsim
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 22, 2005 05:08 PM (9gFP6)
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If the Brits let this guy continue it will send a message to others of his kind that England is easy. England actually pays its enemies to live there and pray for its destruction. English taxpayers must be as dumb as American taxpayers. I think they should deport the Mayor of London along with this creep.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 22, 2005 07:33 PM (CBNGy)
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Why do liberals deem it Okay for muslims to yell death to America but its not okay for Americans to yell death to muslims?
Death to muslims.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 22, 2005 07:35 PM (CBNGy)
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They had on the news today, about a painting hanging in a Government building, in which the artist had painted a toilet with America being sucked into the bowl.
The title of the paining "T'anks to Mr. Bush"
Apparently we do not want to "censor" this anti-American trash, so it won't be removed. If America is such a bad place, why do these idiots continue to live here?
Posted by: dave at July 22, 2005 08:26 PM (DO6vD)
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>>>"Why do liberals deem it Okay for muslims to yell death to America"
The Liberal dhimmi "journalist" Sean "jeff spicoli" Penn, when visiting Iran and hearing them chant death to America, could only muster a feeble “I understand the nature of where it comes from and what its intention is,†he said. “But I don’t think it’s productive because I think the message goes to the American people and it is interpreted very literally.â€
You see, when they chant death to America they don't really mean it, that's why Libs don't mind.
Posted by: Carlos at July 22, 2005 11:59 PM (8e/V4)
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Ya sure. Someone else is dropping the bombs and cutting the heads off. Probably, the same liberals that (understand where it comes from). As for me. Death to muslims and their supporters. If they can holler it so can I.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 24, 2005 05:50 PM (CBNGy)