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April 30, 2007

Omar Bakri Mohammed Followers Screed Against Jawa Report

As many of you know, we have have been documenting the ties between Omar Bakri Mohammed and his followers (all former members of banned groups: ie, al Muhajiroun, The Saved Sect, al Ghurabaa, etc) and terrorism for some time now. We've finally made it on to their radar screen!

*Rusty bows, pats self on back*

Okay, maybe finally isn't entirely accurate. Actually, they've noticed us on several occasion in the past. But until I get an overt fatwa ordering my beheading from Bakri Mohammed, rather than the usual veiled death threat from his followers, I promise that I will not rest!

Today's latest screed from one of Bakri's terror supporters tries to document the ties between The Jawa Report and racism. Their evidence? Comments left by racist genocidal pigs here at The Jawa Report.

They're right. There are such comments on these pages. Some of them are racist. Some of them are genocidal. All are disgusting. Although I've never quite got how disgusting genocidal comments about Muslims were racist--since last time I checked, "Muslim" wasn't a "race".

Such comments are sometimes left by a very small group of people who we've tried to ban on dozens of occasions, and who we have publicly denounced. But the vast majority of them are from the one-time commenter who leaves a few unintelligible remarks and who we never really hear from again---thankfully! Unfortunately, the tools we use to publish this website are not adequate to the task. I'd love to have comment registration, but I don't.

Anyway, here is what Bakri Mohammed's followers over at U.K. Captive Support have to say about The Jawa Report, in a lengthier post about how Britain has declared war on Muslims:

An example to this is the mypetjawa website which has continuously boasted about their so-called intelligence in tracking down Muslims who call for the beheadings of non-Muslims. The website owners are obviously lying hypocritical pigs, as they allow comments from non-Muslims to call for the same.

We do not specifically allow comments from such people. Our only tool available would be to disallaow all comments. Something I've discussed at length with my fellow authors, and which all agree is not a good idea.

The website has always falsely portrayed the Muslims as people who have nothing else to do other then to terrorise the non-Muslims. These false claims have never been backed with evidence.

A common tactic by the al Muhajiroun goons: portray attacks against those who support terrorism as attacks against all Muslims. Thus, when we provide evidence that Omar Bakri Mohammed, Abu Izzadeen, and other British Islamists formerly affiliated with al Muhajiroun do, in fact, support al Qaeda, they claim we are "attacking Muslims".

In Islaam nothing can be claimed without evidence. Therefore we have pasted the links to racist comments calling for the beheadings of Muslims, Arabs and Persians. They also call for the slaughter of Arab and Persian Women and Children:
http://jawacomments.mu.nu/?blog=102&post=187587#c1
http://jawacomments.mu.nu/?blog=102&post=187587#c3
http://jawacomments.mu.nu/?blog=102&post=187587#c5
These are only 3 examples of the many we have collected.
Ending with a message to those who have waged a war against Islaam and Muslims: Know that Islaam has a history of victory, and a future of victory. And by Allaah you will all witness it Inshaâ€™Allah.

I take that last sentence as a veiled threat. But no matter. What matters is the accusation that, somehow, because we have a single racist jerk who left comments on a single thread and was nearly unanimously shouted down by other regular commenters, that it somehow discredits this publication, and the literally dozens of documented occasions in which Omar Bakri Mohammed has personally supported acts of terror and in which his websites---not just the words of an odd commenter or two---have encouraged terror.

You'll notice that I left my own comments in the thread cited, responding to the genocidal asshole Alan Jay Roberts:

Rusty:
between John Ryan and Greyrooster, and now John Allen [my bad, I meant to say "Alan Jay Roberts"]......
Serenity now. Serenity now. Serenity now.

In fact, I believe that Kafir and Kamchatka Bear may have been on to something since none of us had ever heard of "Allen Jay Roberts" until this post. Kamchatka Bear, on reading Alan Jay Robertson's comments and Kafir's allusion to sock puppetry, said:

Alan are you trying to sock puppet here so that later you can claim that this site is racist? if so it's pretty pathetic

Eerie how accurate Kamchatka Bear's prediction was.........

Posted by: Rusty at 10:27 AM | Comments (48) | Add Comment
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1 First,

fatwa on all Islamic terrorists.

CUT THEIR FUCKING HEADS OFF!!!

Posted by: Rubin at April 30, 2007 12:11 PM (ASeeo)

2 Besides Alan Jay there have been other post the last month or so that have different names but it always sounds like the exact same guy.

Posted by: Randman at April 30, 2007 12:20 PM (Sal3J)

3 Dr. Rusty congratulations! You have apparently ticked off a major propogandist. As far as the suspicions on sock puppeting... there are a couple of things that normally give islamists away. 1) weird names: ok think of "Alan Jay Roberts". How many bloggers will post their name in detail? Internet jihadists strive to create illusion of
authentisity, so that they will come up with very interesting names like: "Real French girl", "real native american", "patriotic american soldier". You get the drift... it's "real". Now I am sure those british pislimes are reading this now also, (memo to them: you will join muhammed... bent over in hell next to him) so they might improve their names after this post, but unfortunately for them #2 will still remain the same. 2) jihadists (thankfully to the general "clarity" brought about hateful religion) normally write in a very confused, hateful, generalized terms. The ability to ration and logic in general must be a lot of time damaged when one converts. Hence a lot of times you'll be able to tell them by almost adolescent kind of mentality, (with a lot irrational hatred). Now this also goes for in person encounters with the retards. There are occasionally good bla bla blologists, but even then most likely in a couple of days you'll figure out that all their eloquent speeches really are summarized by hate and confusion (it's kind of like waking up after major boozing party and asking youself: " what was I thinking?"). I guess it all goes to prove one more time that the real God is the god of order, clarity and logic, as opposed to the wanna-be who had to torture and brainwash muhamed in order to convince him of his "divine" origin.
P.S.: question for the piglimes (based on your claim that "In Islaam nothing can be claimed without evidence"). Muhammed's validity is based on only one person's testimony about his "divine" encounters - HIS OWN. Maybe you should really take your own advice and be a little bit sceptical about the hater.

Posted by: Kamchatka Bear at April 30, 2007 12:41 PM (gtZwa)

4 P.S.: wow... that's a long rant. sorry about that.

Posted by: Kamchatka Bear at April 30, 2007 12:42 PM (gtZwa)

5 The difference being, of course, that people who call for or advocate genocide on this site are challenged. Whereas in Islamic circles, people who use that sort of rhetoric are clapped on the back and showered with plaudits (see: Palestinian Hate Syndrome). Basicallly, it's a small of example of the larger West versus Islam argument. One being good, modern, correct and rational, the other being Islam.
I think it's fair to say that since Islam hasn't managed to contribute anything other than murder, oppression, hatred and general weirdness, i.e. nothing positve or worth having, to humanity in around 1400 years, that it's not going to at all. How could it afterall, if Muslims spend all their time learning the useless fairytale nonsense scribbled down from the ramblings of an illiterate, woman-beating, mass-murdering, child-abusing shithead and congregate 5 times daily to get on their hands and knees with somebody's ass a few inches from their face and mutter incoherently to some invisible man, that was invented by aforementioned shithead to dupe gullible people into condoning and assisting in his degenerate behaviour? Not exactly conducive to progressivism. It's no problem though, we, the sane people will let the Islamic world piggyback of our progresses and prosperity as usual, but if it gets a little out of line, forgets its place - of grateful guest - then we'll have to slap it around a bit until it learns. It's for the best.
The good news is that people are finally cottoning on, realising that all that shit about the religion of peace' was all a cruel joke and beginning to pay attention to the problem. Look at all the arrests of these funny bearded assholes for example, and the tangiable shift in political outlook to the right.

Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at April 30, 2007 12:53 PM (810g3)

6 And a well-deserved pat on the shoulder it is too, Dr. Shackleford. :-)

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at April 30, 2007 12:57 PM (j97MF)

7 "..The website has always falsely portrayed the Muslims as people who have
nothing else to do other then to terrorise the non-Muslims. These false
claims have never been backed with evidence..."

Never backed by evidence, eh?
Does the fact that I'm an eye witness to precisely such barbarity and inhumanity and depraved indifference to human life shown by these savages count?

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at April 30, 2007 01:02 PM (j97MF)

8 And GM,

Notice the claim that we also want to kill "Persians", which you personally might find, I dunno, 'ironic'.

Posted by: Rusty at April 30, 2007 01:04 PM (JQjhA)

9 "...Islaam has a history of victory...."

Does he mean like how the 1.2 billion of them with their enormous oil wealth can not dislodge the tiniest of these democracies namely Israel?

Or does he mean how they turned back at the gates of Vienna?

Or how they were evicted from Spain?

Or how they lost the Malaisye war with Britain?

Or how the Turkish Califate was beaten and fragmented?

Do they mean these kinds of victories?

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at April 30, 2007 01:06 PM (j97MF)

10 Dr. Shackleford,
If I may say so, please don't feel obliged to spend any energy trying explain the fact that the JAWA Report is not what these savages accuse it of being.
Please note that these terrorsit f**k's are incurably affliced with verbal diarrhea.

I know for a fact that you're far more tolerant than I am.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at April 30, 2007 01:14 PM (j97MF)

11 I think by 'victories' he mean absolute failures. And I agree with him. Islam is a fucking joke. That's why everone spends so much time laughing at it and the poor gullible simpletons that follow it.

Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at April 30, 2007 01:17 PM (810g3)

12 Even the worst of our racist commenters here are only loud-mouthed jerks. They don't go around sawing off Muslim's heads and posting the videos on You Tube. They don't go around blowing up people that offend them. There is a big difference between some jerk letting off steam, and Omar the G-H Bakri Mohammed's followers issuing threats that have an excellent chance of being carried out.

Posted by: Vicki at April 30, 2007 01:28 PM (KNd6y)

13 Islam is a fucking joke until the weak attempt to excuse it under the guise "you poor picked on bunch" The racist say bad things about you bloodthisty son of a bitches. Aren't the racists terrible. We should concentrate on them not on you baby bombing mother fuckers. Yea sure. Muslims. You win on this one by default. Thank the brainwashed who refuse to accept the truth. I'm a racist. Racist against blacks because of their behavior. I defy anyone to proof anything I've said not to be the factual proof. The bullshit saying being repeated time, after time, after time, after time "muslims is not a race" Like the world hasn't known this for a 1000 years is old hat. Arabs are a race of people. Same as Jews are a race of people. The fact that some Jews are Christians doesn't change that fact. They're still Jews. If someone has a reason to be racist to the arabs that's their business. If someone is stupid enough to fall for the old "he called me a racist remark" therefore I should be forgiven all my crimes and everyone focus on his racist remarks is childs play. Sounds like a bunch of third graders. Personally, taking the Arabs behavior into accound I find it astonishing that we have so few anti-arab racists. REMEMBER THE ARABS. THE ONES DANCING IN THE STREETS AT THE DEATHS OF 3000 INNOCENT PEOPLE ON 9/11. But that's not important. Calling racist names at those dancing in the streets. Now thats important. KNOW WHAT! you sissies sure enough might lose.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 30, 2007 01:48 PM (4ytNJ)

14 Infidelsalwayswin: "People who use that kind of retoric are clapped on the back and applauded" EXCELLENT. How very few of the tear droppers on this blog notice that very fact. This closed mentality is why I say. Academia, the other Islam.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 30, 2007 01:55 PM (4ytNJ)

15 And Rusty: If their muslims yes kill them before they kill others. Iranian, Persian. Personally, my war is with Islam. And I really don't give a shit about the muslims relatives of some immigrant. Mean huh! But that's the way you defeat Islam. For 3 years I've listened to Rusty Shackelfor say everything except anything that would lead to an end to the muslim problem. SO NOW IS YOUR TIME.
Some say kill em. You say, no. Some say mass deportations back to their own Islamic world. You say, no. Some say nuke em. You say, no Some say OUTLAW ISLAM in the west. You say, no. Every solution that is practical is wrong to you. SO WHERE'S YOUR FRIGGIN IDEA? WHERE'S YOUR SOLUTION?And no I not going to kiss and hug a bunch of murderers.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 30, 2007 02:05 PM (4ytNJ)

16 To be clear, here, racism is hatred real or implied of another ethnic group. I'm sure thats not the best definition but it'll do. The KKK and Hitler's SS are typical examples of the personification of racial hatred against Blacks and Jews, respectively. Those who dislike followers of Islam are displaying not racism, but religious intolerance. It should be noted, however, that although the U.S. celebrates freedom of religion it does not also celebrate equivalency of religions. The United States was founded on Judeo-Christian values and it should never be implied that freedom of religion, as defined by the 1st Amendment, also extends to religous equality. I have yet to see a group advocating religious equality. Many religions practice religious tolerance but none, to my knowledge, claim to have religious equality as one of their tenants. Every religion is going to believe that their version of religious truth is better than the next. Perhaps I'm mistaken here, if so, please correct me. It should also be noted that when visiting or living in a country with a particular religious slant, especially where the religion might be ingrained or embedded in their legal system, you should respect that countries religious slant even if it chaps your hide to do so. I am not advocating any religion, nor am I giving a pass to any religion for anything that they subject their people to. What I am saying is that when in America, respect the Judeo-Christians, when in Iran, respect the Muslims. However, and this is a big however, when you push, force or otherwise cram your religion down my throat, you are in the wrong. Period. Religion should be spread through peaceful movements, not violent ones. Violence in the name of religion degrades the status of the religion and tends to alienate the intended convertees. That being said, I can find no sustainable argument that Islam is a religion of peace or of objective tolerance. I can, however, find many instances of other religions that practice both peace and tolerance in its various forms.

Posted by: DrTheopolis at April 30, 2007 02:20 PM (9ZqGe)

17 I supposed to care about arab retards that send their children out with bombs strapped to them to kill other children. Then the stupid hateful bitch of a mother puts the kids picture on her mantel and hopes her other monsterous brats will do the same. When a race of people (YES RACE) (Arabs) lowers itself to that level is there a place for them on this planet? Will they ever be able to live in peace with others. Were they assholes before Islam. Is OUTLAWING ISLAM their only hope for savation? I've never said kill them all. YET!

Posted by: greyrooster at April 30, 2007 02:23 PM (4ytNJ)

18 But I will say FUCK THOSE ASSHOLES.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 30, 2007 02:24 PM (4ytNJ)

19 DrTheoplis: My take. When the documents that rule our nation where written by the forefathers Islam was not in the equasion. It should not be now. When the founders of the principles of this nation wrote the rules they were not considering Islam. Their (freedom of religion) was was intended to address the Christian problems at the time. Adding Islam a few hundred years later is like to adding another number between 3 and 4 now that we have math all worked out. It ain't gonna work.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 30, 2007 02:35 PM (4ytNJ)

20 Agreed, greyrooster, Islam is very incompatible with Judeo-Christian values. Our entire legal system would have to be overturned to accommodate it. And, let's face it, that ain't gonna happen because the 2nd Amendment won't ever allow it too, we can thank the founding fathers for that one too. Perhaps, ultimately, they, the FF, did foresee the introduction of Islam or other religions to the U.S. but probably never fully in the context that we have experienced it.

Posted by: DrTheopolis at April 30, 2007 02:57 PM (9ZqGe)

My take on Racism.

Hating people just because of thier color uis bad. Hating them for what they do is OK, because they can choose thier actions, and you are entitled to your response.

Hating someone for actions they choose which are based on thier own perception of thier own color, or for actions motivated by racism that origionates with them, is OK as well, as long as it is limited to hating those supporting the actual behavior.

In short, If I as a white dude, do something to attack non-whites because I have a white-supremecist viewpoint, I can be legitimately hated for being a white supremecist. Being 'white' tends to go with that view (not always).

If I was a black-supremecist attacking people who didn't fit my definition of 'black', I would be equally as bad as the white supremecists.

In yet another example, there is racism where a group demands special treatment claiming victim status based on thier own race, and thier own perception of race. This is a slicker form of racial supremecist thinking. As a victim, the racist automatically casts another race as a morally inferior agressor whose actions must be mitigated by law that protects special favors for the 'victims'.

They may even go so far as demanding that members of the non-victim race actually pay repairations for things which they neither initiated, not participated in, and which in many ways they have already paid for indirectly. How many families were killed out fighting to free slaves and preserve the republic as a slave free whole? How many 'white' children were never born because thier potential fathers died makning 'black' people free? Where are the repairations for that going to come from??? As for paying for 'black' slavery, I'd say that's been done. time for the whining to stop!

AS a white man I have no use for people who hate based on a supremecist view, even if it is concealed in the guise of victimhood. Black, white, or anywhere in between, if your a supremecist, you suck! If you play the victim card for undeserved sympathy, and to demonize those of another race, you suck! If you push for special treatment for YOUR race, while condemning it for others, you suck! So the KKK, and the Slavery Repairationists both SUCK! The 'go-to-the-back-of-the-bus'ers' AND the 'Affirmative action'ers' BOTH SUCK! The Neo-Nazi's and the NAACP both SUCK! Case in point ... if it was the NAAWP, people would get pissed off! So chew on that all you racists!

I get greyroosters point of virw, but I think he should narrow it down to the specific targets of his wrath. I think he paints with a broad brush. His actual enemies are OTHER RACISTS! They just happen to be black racists, is all.

MY OPINION IS THATTHERE IS ONLY A HUMAN RACE, AND IT COMES IN MANY FLAVORS!

It's ugly politics and intolerant and hateful beliefs, that are the poison that a flavor might be used to conceal. It is to the belief, it's promoters, and thier susequent action that you should direct your displeasure, not a skin color.

Don't miss enjoying the rainbow, because your hung up on a single color! Just focus on being a member of the human race. If you want to be someone special then go do something for the HUMAN race!

USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 30, 2007 03:39 PM (2OHpj)

22 Sharia is incompatible with the US Constitution. Only one of these systems of law can prevail in the USA. They cannot co-exist. That is the absolute truth. I choose the US Constitution. Absolutely!
USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 30, 2007 03:41 PM (2OHpj)

23 Of course you do. Only somebody who was suicidal would choose Sharia over...anything. That's the whole point, really. You don't choose Sharia. Just like everything in the religion of unmitigated hatred, oppression, murder, intolerance and decay - it's forced on you, whether you like it or not.
I'd choose sticking hot needles into my eyes over Sharia. US constitution versus Sharia = no competition. One is a series of laws based on equality, justice and freedom, the other is somebosy's idea of a cruel joke.

Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at April 30, 2007 04:27 PM (BEY7y)

24 Infidelsalwayswin, your response is right on target. Sharia is a legal system, and as a legal system, it is tyranny. Sharia requires you to behave in a manner that represes those who do not share your religion, and it does not accept reform. I spent a lot of time reading Hadiths last winter, and as a basis for Sharia, it is clear that we cannot accept institutionalization of Sharia in the USA. I wish I could find a win-win, but there isn't one. No Sharia!
USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 30, 2007 08:37 PM (2OHpj)

25 Michael: I'll go along with your assessment on racism. Actually, it is 97% my views. But if one speaks out he is labeled a racist so might as well be one. Dr T above mentioned the KKK. Now here's a fact. 357 murders in New Orleans last year. 356 of them committed by blacks. None committed by the KKK. Of the 356 murders commited by blacks not one conviction. Why? Could it be the Black major, the black chief of police. the black district attorney (who fired 45 white workers and replaced them with blacks)When I state a true fact like that I will be called a racist. But the black district attorney doesn't get called a racist. He gets re-elected. Why? Because without a doubt the majority of black voters are racist. Saying so makes me a racist. Personally I feel American blacks are becoming a race of cry babies. If Al Sharpton isn't a terrorist then Osama Bin Laden isn't either. I'm happy with that. Makes me proud. Makes me feel brave. Makes me feel honest. Makes me feels truthful. Makes me proud of my race (even if we seem to have a preponderence of woosies). The kkk and stormfronters are merely the opposite of the Black panthers and black muslims. Academia has pushed this nearly non-existent KKK thing until it is nothing but stupidity. Tonight, in New Orleans and other American cities dozens of people will be killed, robbed, beaten and terrorized by blacks. Not one will be killed by the KKK or Nazis or any such group. But tomorrow somehow, someway the KKK will be in the news. And what the hell. If the blacks can do it. Why not the muslims?

Posted by: greyrooster at April 30, 2007 09:32 PM (3o7Jc)

26 Please notice that Greyrooster the racist has never called for the genocide of Arabs. Has the Canadian Garduneh Mehr? Turkeys do a lot of gobbling but little thinking. The product of 2 times 2 is out of reach to some.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 30, 2007 09:35 PM (3o7Jc)

27 New Orleans is supposed to be a chocolate city now. But, Ray Nagin never mentioned which type of chocolate. Is it: Belgian chocolate, White chocolate, Dark Chocolate, Milk Chocolate? What kind of chocolate is NO supposed to be made of? I'm getting hungry thinking about chocolate now.

Posted by: DrTheopolis at May 01, 2007 09:10 AM (9ZqGe)

28 The Plaza at 9am on a Tuesday three weeks prior to the day. I have burned in my mind the last time I looked up at the splendor and greatness of what my country is capable of. Three weeks later, I witnessed from across the Hudson river the greatest act these religous people could dream up, plan and execute. I am here to tell you Osama, that their plan didn't work. A religion and culture of destruction is just that and will never reach anywhere near the creative ability of a truly great force in the world. We have nothing to fear from those whose only contribution is destruction and the preaching of such - we need only continue creating and building to defeat them because creation is what speaks to hearts. Because creation is the driving force of the Universe and it is on OUR side.

Posted by: tbone at May 01, 2007 11:47 AM (HGqHt)

29 Tbone: You give them to much credit. They had no idea that the towers would come down.

Posted by: greyrooster at May 01, 2007 01:50 PM (qqhSD)

30 Greyrooster, KKK and the like are history. What makes you above other human beings?

Posted by: allahakchew at May 01, 2007 05:46 PM (BrndJ)

31 Stupid cunt. When did I ever say I was above other human beings? Dizzy bitch. Like I told you before use your brain as much as your dildo.

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