November 06, 2006

More on voting for what you don't really like....

Howie Sez:

Ok, so will we ever see [reform] if they keep control? My worry, as an ordinary schmuck, is that if you don't punish them they will say, "See we got away with it". Next we will be dissapointed again.

On the other hand I feel the Republicans must hold one house. Having the Presidency helps a bit. It's a shame we don't have a very good third choice to whack them over the head with.

Howie's right, as usual. I, for one, am ready and willing to severely punish Hastert, Boehner, and the rest of the SOBs who have gotten us into the predicament. I'm more than ready to slip a metaphorical shiv between their political ribs, and I'm pretty sure I have a lot of company in that sentiment. I'm ready to start that campaign in earnest on Wednesday morning. I think there are a lot of bloggers who are "hanging in" with the GOP team right now because, and only because, of the consequences of Democrat control of one or both houses. If the GOP leadership thinks that our recent silence and support represents some newfound love for, or even acquiescence to, their style of governance, I predict they're going to be very disappointed once the blogger gloves come back off after election day.

Yes, we've bitten our tongues for a while, but we're no friends of the Hastert Republicans. We're temporary allies in a difficult time. Think Churchill and the Soviet Army.

If the GOP holds the House, we need to have a knock-down, drag out fight over the House leadership elections. Any House member who supports the current leadership needs to pay dearly for it.

But that's a fight for then. We have to win this fight to even get to that one.

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1 Well WVUinMN I would support other republicans in the primaries if we had any run against the incumbents.

Posted by: Prof.Xomox at November 06, 2006 02:27 PM (R2r1P)

2 Yeah.  I am pissed off, but I'm not stupid. We'll deal with that arrogant Hastert   "you can't come into William Jefferson 's capital hill office and  INVESTIGATE HIM"  after tomorrow. Trust me on this.

Posted by: n.a. palm at November 06, 2006 02:29 PM (qXNHZ)

3 Never let "the best" be the enemy of "the good."

Posted by: Bird Dog at November 06, 2006 02:48 PM (XXEg4)

4

Your LUCKY to have Hastert Republicans in the House.  I much prefer them to the McCain/Hagel/Snowe/Graham/Specter version of the US Senate.  And if you so dislike the current crop of Republicans controlling the House, put your money were your big mouth is and fund alternative GOP candidates in the PRIMARIES!


Posted by: WVUinMN at November 06, 2006 02:59 PM (UdJCa)

5 I'm not too uspset with Hastert over the foley stuff.  I direct that at Foley. Sure they could have dupled that hot tater a long time ago.  It's the total abandonement of the smaller govt doctrine that bugs me.

Posted by: Howie at November 06, 2006 03:03 PM (D3+20)

6 WVUinMN -

I've tried that, and will continue to do so.  In every situation so far, I've been opposed by the White House brainiacs who seem to be convinced that conservatives are unelectable in general elections.  My time and small money has generally been dwarfed by the huge resources of the party insiders supporting an "electable" RINO against a principled conservative.

IMHO, the fault here lies squarely at the feet of one Karl Rove and his acolytes, who definitely need to be dealt with.  But we'll deal with them later.

For now, I'll team up with the unprincipled to defeat the insane.

Posted by: The All-Seeing Pirate Ragnar at November 06, 2006 03:12 PM (c/4ax)

7 More republicans will be elected than conventional wisdom (always wrong,) allows. You hear a lot about Repubs losing seats or retainig seats, but you don't hear anything about them gaining seats. This is an idiotic oversight on the part of the pundits.

Here in Nebraska, Repub newcomer Pete Ricketts is going to destroy Dem incumbent Ben Nelson. Ricketts may not be the only upset. I haven't paid any attention to other state elections brcause I don't vote in them, but it would be interesting to hear from those who do.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 06, 2006 03:15 PM (bLPT+)

8 Time to stop pontificating and just sit back and watch the numbers roll in, tomorrow.

You'll have plenty of time for weeping and whining, later.

I'm curious to know how Bush and Fox News is going to spin the loss of the House, so that it is not a reflection on Bush's failed policies.

It'll probably have something to do with all of those Democrat felons that weren't purged from the voter rolls, plus all of those illegal immigrants voting Democrat.

Got any more good excuses, that you can think of?

Posted by: PuddleDuck at November 06, 2006 03:53 PM (F+9W9)

9 Who else is writing in Osama Bin Laden on their congressman's ballot?

Posted by: tbone at November 06, 2006 04:10 PM (HGqHt)

10 Due respect, how do you lump Boehner in with the other guys?  He hasn't even been ML for a year and on his watch we've actually seen some movement in the right direction: earmark reform, military tribunals, more on tax cuts, and so on.  The guy has never taken an earmark and has presented plans for real budget reform.  He's said since January there needs to be big change but he was surrounded by the other guys.  This negativity is a little unfounded.  If you want to aim that shiv somewhere, aim it at the former rep from TX-22 that really steered this ship for the eight years prior.

Posted by: Amy at November 06, 2006 04:38 PM (AB+nR)

11 I didna lump Boehner in.  I simply did not buy the if the democrats get elected now you'll never see this or that.  Looks like we'll nver see it anyway.  I  liked his comments except I don't buy the let us pass and we'll be good argument.  If you notice he agrees that Republicna party sold out small govt.

Posted by: Howie at November 06, 2006 04:50 PM (D3+20)

12 And here, I've been nice today, and y'all Republican true believer kool-aid drinkers wanna go and fuck with me...

OK, Just to make sure we're talking about the same John Boehner, is this the same John Boehner who's been known to hand out checks from lobbyists on the floor of the U.S. House while votes are taking place on government subsidies?  Yeah, a real champion for reform ya got there...

Maybe there are two John Boehner's in the U.S. House, but if not, that's the same guy, and that's EXACTLY the kind of unprincipled shenanigans that get THIS John Boehner "lumped in" with the rest of them.

In other words, if a guy who blatantly buys votes on the floor of the U.S. House is our best hope for some reform, we're pretty well FUCKED.

Don't you folks get tired carrying all that water?

At any rate, go vote for the shady-but-sane folks tomorrow.  We'll get around to the infighting later--unless the kool-aid drinkers want to mix it up some more...

Posted by: The All-Seeing Pirate Ragnar at November 06, 2006 06:11 PM (c/4ax)

13

In the 1940s the dems ruled the house. Bush's fault. Friggin commie idiot.


It is true the illegal immigrants, commies, socialists, gays, traitors and blacks in the ghettos will vote democratic. THAT'S THE POINT! They are the democratic party.
 
Besides, they are not going to win anything. Except for Lieberman. Who will remember their traitorism.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 06, 2006 11:16 PM (0AdXP)

14 PuddleFuck:

Time to stop pontificating and register to vote in the 2008 elections. It's too late for you to register for tommorow's.

You'll have plenty of time for weeping and whining, later.

I'm curious to know how Pelosi and her Establisment Media backers are going to spin the inability to gain control of Congress, so that it is not a reflection on the Dems' failed policies.

It'll probably have something to do with all of those soldiers they couldn't prevent voting this time around, or the dead people, pets, wetbacks and felons who were prevented from voting illegally. It was the Diebold machines! Haliburton manufactured them! 

Got any more good excuses, that you can think of? You're going to need then after tomorrow.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 07, 2006 02:34 AM (bLPT+)

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