Rosie has left the building....for good this time. More here and also at Hot Air.

Filed not under Genital Puppets, but under Imperial Good News. more...

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In order to bump my last post back up on the site, I was first required to promise Howie certain sexual favors, as well promising to post about the fact that the Islamic Army in Iraq's jubaonline.org and http://www.iaisite.info are down.

As Howie surmised, it appears they forgot to pay their bill.
Neener Neener!

Here's a little background.

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1 Lets all do the "NEENER NEENER" ritual dance, and mock our enemies!                       USA, ALL THE WAY!  

Posted by: Michael Weaver at May 23, 2007 02:56 PM (2OHpj)

2 Now that you bring it up I think the iaisite.info domain is moving.

Pinging iaisite.info returns an IP of "69.46.229.11", the old eCommerce.com / IXwebhosting.net site was hosted on "
72.41.39.245".

The new IP block belongs to directnic.com. If they are indeed moving we'll know shortly.

Posted by: blackflag at May 23, 2007 03:58 PM (Mq5jS)

3 Thanks blackflag.
On top of things as usual.

Posted by: Kafir at May 23, 2007 04:20 PM (HsmTD)

4 No problem, I didnt notice until you mentioned it. My technical references are only partially updated so it's not a sure thing yet, we'll see in a couple of days when the DNS pointer updates.

Posted by: blackflag at May 23, 2007 04:26 PM (Mq5jS)

5 ...I was first required to promise Howie certain sexual favors...

It gets lonely on those moisture farms..

Posted by: JeepThang at May 23, 2007 06:48 PM (yZQoS)

6 Now you know where the moisture comes from.

Posted by: Kafir at May 23, 2007 06:55 PM (HsmTD)

7 I will not dignify these harsh and baseless accusations with a response.

Posted by: Howie at May 23, 2007 09:43 PM (YHZAl)

8 "I will not dignify these harsh and baseless accusations with a response."

Despite all evidence to the contrary.

Posted by: Kafir at May 24, 2007 07:49 AM (HsmTD)

9 Hey, liberals can do it.

Posted by: Howie at May 24, 2007 09:32 AM (YHZAl)

10 dqexlc qrtey dtyearksm snurqk dmuyt soul byfir

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FIVE IRAQI HOSTAGES FREED

BAGHDAD, Iraq – Five Iraqis who were held captive and tortured by terrorists were freed Monday morning during a Coalition Forces raid on the site where they were imprisoned.

Coalition Forces targeted the building northeast of Karmah during continued operations to disrupt the al-Qaeda network operating in the area. After a thorough search of the building, ground forces found a padlocked room. Inside were four men and a boy who had been kidnapped and severely beaten with chains, cables and hoses. The four captives also showed signs of torture, and the boy stated the terrorists had hooked electrical wires to his tongue and shocked him.

Coalition Forces evacuated the five individuals and provided treatment for their injuries. The hostages indicated their captors were foreign fighters who spoke with different accents. The hostages, who are from different tribes, will be turned over to their respective tribal leaders for repatriation.

“The brutality and viciousness of these acts demonstrate the complete disregard terrorists have for human life,” said Lt. Col. Christopher Garver, MNF-I spokesperson. “We will continue to hunt foreign fighters who bring this violence into Iraq.”

Source MNF-Iraq.

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Cockroaches vs. Hellfire missiles.

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3996 dead terrorists plus four more dead terrorists equals 4000 known dead terrorists.

Hooray!!!!!!

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LGF found a Kos diarist who's had enough of the wild-eyed nuttery that echoes around there on a daily basis.

Good luck to him.

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Via The BBC:

The wife of 7 July bomber Mohammad Sidique Khan is among four people arrested in connection with the 2005 attacks, which killed 52 people.

Officers arrested Hasina Patel, 29, her brother Arshad Patel, 30, and Khalid Khaliq, 34, in West Yorkshire; Imran Motala, 22, was held in Birmingham.

They are being quizzed in London on suspicion of commissioning, preparing or instigating acts of terrorism.

Seven addresses in the West Midlands and West Yorkshire are being searched.

Forensic teams are searching a property in the Handsworth area of Birmingham, in Leonard Road, and police are guarding a block of student flats in Selly Oak.

Hat Tip: Gateway Pundit

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Hopefully, Sarkozy can keep his momentum and grand vision for France going at a good clip. The real France sounds like its coming back- the France we knew circa 1776. Here's a portion of his victory speech to the nation:

Je veux lancer un appel à tous ceux qui dans le monde croient aux valeurs de la tolérance, de la liberté, de la démocratie, de l'humanisme, à tous ceux qui sont persécutés par les tyrannies et les dictatures. Je veux dire à tous les enfants à travers le monde, à toutes les femmes martyrisées dans le monde, je veux leur dire que la fierté, le devoir de la France sera d'être à leurs côtés.

(Translated from French) "I want to launch a call to all those in the world who believe in the values of tolerance, of liberty, of democracy and of humanism, to all those who are persecuted by the tyrannies and by the dictators, to all the children and to all the martyred women in the world to say to them that the pride, the duty of France will be at their sides, that they can count on her."

ht: Volokh Conspiracy, Insty

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…for murdering hundreds of innocent Muslims in support of a reckless, futile and failed goal. The Fatwa was issued by an Islamic Cleric in Kuwait who has been supportive of the Mujahideen.

It seems the cleric or Imam accuses Deviants (read al-Qaeda) of attempting to hijack the resistance movement and take it over their own ends.

Via Memri

On April 4, 2007, Islamist Kuwaiti Sheikh Hamed Al-Ali, known for his support of the jihad fighters, issued a fatwa criticizing the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) and characterized its establishment as a forbidden act of religious innovation. Al-Ali called upon the founders of the ISI (i.e., on Al-Qaeda in Iraq) to dissolve the ISI and to reassume their status as an ordinary jihad group operating in cooperation with the other jihad organizations.

The fatwa was received with surprise and disapproval by many writers on the Islamic websites, who accused Al-Ali of instigating civil strife. Al-Ali replied to the accusations in an April 7, 2007 message, reiterating his position and stressing that circumstances were not yet ripe for the establishment of an Islamic rule (nidham hukum) in Iraq.

Sheikh Hamed Al-Ali: To Monopolize Jihad in Iraq and Divide the Ranks of the Mujahideen is To Do the Devil's Work
"The imama [established by the ISI] is not grounded in Islamic law, since Islam does not recognize [the concept of] swearing allegiance to an unknown, hidden leader who lacks the power, the visible presence and the [self-sustaining] empowerment [tamkin] which would enable him to maintain [safety] on the roads, to dispense law and justice, to protect life, property and honor and [to defend the] borders...

"Establishing an imama without adequate religious basis and then imposing it on people by the force of the sword is an [unacceptable] religious innovation... and there is a danger of straying from the right path, for which Allah may withdraw his blessing [from the believers] and cause jihad to be forgotten..."

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Above: Believed to be Abdul Latif al-Jubouri, from one of dozens of propaganda films produced by the al Qaeda umbrella group, The Islamic State of Iraq.

The man who was responsible for the Kidnapping of Jill Carrol and a leader of the Islamic State of Iraq is no more.

Via Reuters Via WAPO: BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The U.S. military said on Thursday it had killed a senior al Qaeda official in Iraq who it accused of involvement in the kidnapping of Americans Jill Carroll and Tom Fox and other foreigners.

But the military said it had no information to support claims by Iraq's Interior Ministry that Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, another senior al Qaeda figure in Iraq, had been killed.

Chief military spokesman Major-General William Caldwell identified Muharib Abdul Latif al-Jubouri, the "senior minister of information" for al Qaeda in Iraq, as a key figure in the separate abductions of Carroll and Fox.

The US military said that it has no proof that Omar al-Baghdadi is really the leader of ISI. Possibly, but obviously al-Baghdadi is a fake name--something common for jihadis to do, kind of like a "gang" name. Tribal leaders and other insurgent groups have complained about being asked to pledge allegance to a "phantom".

However on some forums I have seen jihad supporters claim that Abdul Latif al-Jubouri is the former head of the Islamic Army in Iraq. Which would make sense, because it was right here at The Jawa Report that it was first revealed that the "unkown" kidnappers of Jill Carroll, "The Revenge Brigade", were really a front for the IAI.

And since al-Jubouri is now confirmed dead, I think its pretty safe to reveal that at least one hostage taken by the Islamic Army in Iraq has told us that they were fairly certain that someone who came to visit them while in confinement also appeared on an al Qaeda in Iraq propaganda video.

The IAI is responsible for the reprehensible Juba The Bahgdad Sniper series of videos and the murder of literally dozens of hostages. Its also interesting to note that since the formation of the Islamic State of Iraq umbrella group, that the number of videos coming from the IAI has dropped sharply.

Of course al-Qaeda will claim that Baghdadi was not killed. Which is hard to prove. Since no one knows who Baghdadi is, he can be anyone on any day.

Regardless, this is a stunning victory will go a long way toward breaking the will of the enemy in Iraq. I think it's safe to break out the cowbell that Rusty stole from Ace.

Dan Riehl, More here at Captain's Quarters and Strata-Sphere. And PJM is doing update after update.

Update: The ISI has confirmed the death of it's information minister and, as predicted, denied that al-Baghdadi was killed.

Update II Image of al-Jubouri's corpse below the fold more...

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What a shame.

Radical Islam is having a down year this year, thanks in large part to the presence of our troops stationed on the central terrorism battlefront that the Democrats are trying disgracefully to retreat from.

Just remember that Iraq is an al-Qaeda meat grinder (well, we all know this already.)

Maybe they know they don't have to work as hard to intimidate Democrats in our country and that they'll be cowering in corners begging for retreat with a fraction of the effort they were engaged in with the GOP in control (and I use 'control' loosely.)

Flypaper strategy. Google it.

ht: Newsbusters

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1 Signs of wartime success, and US victory is disastrous news for the 'Progressive' Democrats.  They are antiwar, because this is not their war, it’s the Republicans’ war,
they hated seeing Americans rally around Bush in times of trouble, and
they will do anything to keep the Republicans from claiming glory in
winning this war.  They are also anti-military, because the military is strongly
anti-'Progressivist'. 

Progressives are really gradualist Socialists. They are Pro-Islamist, because Socialists have common cause
with Islamists in opposing Republicans, and they want the Islamists’
help to beat Bush in this global struggle.  They are anti-Israel, in order
to be pro-Islamist,  Anti-Christian, because it distracts from the
pursuit of higher Socialist Ideals.  They love Moral Relativism, because
according to Marx, and dialectical materialism, morality is constantly
in flux, changing, and less important than striving for Socialist
ideals.  They equivocation on the Constitution, because the Liberal
Democracy articulated in the Constitution is at odds with Socialist
ideals.

Progressives like Cuba and Venezuela, because they are Socialists.  They
are glad that Nicaragua has Ortega back, because he is a Socialist. 
They have no dispute with China, they sympathize with North Korea, and
Vietnam, because they are Socialists.  They like lots of Mexican
Immigrants, illegal or not, because they want to expand their
Proletariat base. They do not want to help establish Liberal Democracy
in other countries, because they do not like Liberal Democracy.

Progressives hate Bush, because Bush is preventing the ‘progression’ towards Socialism.  Gradualist Socialism seeks common cause with the Islamists. 
Both oppose the Republicans at any cost.  It will be no problem to
betray the Islamists later.  As Marx indicated, morality is irrelevant,
you must seize control of the state and impose Socialism by any
expedient means.  Progressives do not mind telling the electorate one thing and
doing a different thing.  When Democrats promised to end the war in
Iraq, they did not mention that they planned to do it by surrendering. 

Posted by: DemocracyRules at May 02, 2007 06:30 AM (L/SIz)

2 Republicans?  Oh yea, those were the guys who fell in love with their new found powers:  Started out cool, then decided they should be like their fellows members, the democrats.  Now we have mostly assholes in our Congress and Executive Branches.  And when they get done with this mess watch how our taxes rocket skyward as a deep recession takes over.  Meanwhile, this mass movement our wise leaders fail to understand continues to gather slaves and energies, all of which intend to come bearing down on us and our friends...if any will stand by us during this "It's all American's fault" time in history.  If we want to level the playing field we need to send every legislator to law school, both here and in the Islamic world.  Then, and only then, will truly "wise men" be in control.  Arrogant bastards are now beyond our gates...and we are the fools who let them in!  Shame on us!  Now is the time to turn this game around, just before $5 per gallon of gas tries to wake us up!  God willing, or is that some Allah phrase I need to learn?

Posted by: RJ at May 02, 2007 06:30 AM (yyxO/)

3 To: RJ
One of the key characteristics of Moral Relativism is what I call, 'centrifugal blaming'.  Stand in the middle of the problem, and spin on your left heel, throwing blame in all directions.  Does blaming everyone for confused reasons actually solve problems?

Posted by: DemocracyRules at May 02, 2007 06:39 AM (L/SIz)

4 Hey demorules...read my words: "we are the fools who let them in."
This would suggest, unless one is an elitist...like you dear boy, that the average American citizen needs to examine his/her values more closely the next voting cycle.  Further, the picture I paint is open to argument; which one can deduce just by the broad brush I use to outline my thoughts.  You are so clever in your choice of words, etc.  So clever...might you be that lawyer of which I speak?  Clever boy.  Just maybe you sense my finger is pointed toward you and now we get your response.  Try spinning someone else around with your bullshit.  Moral Relativism...aren't you so smart!  I bet you masturbate with both hands, not at the same time because we both know why, rather going back and forth...self love is what you're all about.  Projection hidden in your "centrifugal blaming" is so cute, too.  Boring.

Posted by: RJ at May 02, 2007 07:48 AM (yyxO/)

5 Actually terrorist attacks are up all over the world. Nice try right winger.
 
 
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/117801700185890.xml&coll=2
 

Posted by: Gordon Hunter at May 02, 2007 08:16 AM (TmLg9)

6 Whats the matter Gordon Hunter did Good Lt. hurt your feelings with this post?

Posted by: allahakchew at May 02, 2007 09:06 AM (BrndJ)

7 Allahakchew,
Excellent witticism!   :-)

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at May 02, 2007 09:14 AM (j97MF)

8 Gordon Hunter,
What matters to me personally is that in the six years since 9/11 tens of thousands more of your Islamists terrorist brethren have been sent to hell than in the sixty years before 9/11. And by golly that's a good thing.
You terrorist scum picked the wrong strongest free nation in history to screw with.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at May 02, 2007 09:20 AM (j97MF)

9 Terrorism may've been reduced temporarily, and let's make no mistake - that's a great thing indeed, but it'll always happen and have the potential to happen as long as there is Islam. The two are synonymous. Luckily, practically nobody - at least nobody whose opinion actually matters - buys the ultimate irony that is Islam is the 'religion of peace.' Whoever came up with that little gem must've quite literally dropped his turban when he put it forward, and -get this - people actually took it seriously for a bit.

Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at May 02, 2007 09:37 AM (KaYIQ)

10 Gordon believes the AP headlines but doesn't bother reading the story--and that's the AP's trick: give a deceitful headline, then put the truth in the story, usually somewhere near the bottom.

Nice try Gordon, you moron left winger.

Posted by: Richard Romano at May 02, 2007 10:06 AM (iD1fP)

11 Here Gordon, just for you:

http://newsbusters.org/node/12431

Read it and weep.

Posted by: Richard Romano at May 02, 2007 10:08 AM (iD1fP)

12 What matters to me personally is that in the six years since 9/11 tens
of thousands more of your Islamists terrorist brethren have been sent
to hell than in the sixty years before 9/11. And by golly that's a good
thing.

Gordon's heoroes all meeting their untimely ends in Iraq. Al Qaeda dying every day in Iraq. That's a beautiful thing for humanity.

And I'm sorry to report to RJ that terrorist attacks are actually down, and that his not wanting this to be true (absurd as that is) doesn't make it so.

Posted by: Good Lt at May 02, 2007 10:18 AM (yMbfY)

13 I tell ya if the MSM wants us to leave Iraq and Afghanistan so that we can spread the terrorist's attacks around in the most fair fashion possible why then don't we, far be it from us to exclude anyone, I find we are a fair and balanced nation:-)  Let it be clear to all the wussies of the world the moment that happens they will be begging us to save them from themselves, idiots!

Posted by: Rightmom at May 02, 2007 10:30 AM (0lpqx)

14 You know, I just had a thought: what if the AP wants to "spread the love" of terrorism worldwide?  Maybe they don't like it that terrorists have concentrated efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan?  They want the socialist ideal to include terrorism--equality and fairness for all!

God bless our troops who are doing the work the left and their comrades refuse to do.

Posted by: Richard Romano at May 02, 2007 10:37 AM (iD1fP)

15 Richard Romano on #11,  Good work! I was goint to go there, but you beat me to it                  Gordon Hunter on #5  "Nice try" LEFT WINGER!                       USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at May 02, 2007 10:48 AM (2OHpj)

16 I think the lefturds would be happier if there were more terrorist incidents in such places as New York, California, London, etc., and considering these are lefturd bastions, I say give 'em what they want..

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 02, 2007 11:03 AM (jQsc/)

17 One thing, though.
My heart goes out to the victims of "Gordon Hunter's" terrorist ilk in Iraq and Afghanistan and everywhere else for that matter.
The bastards in the regimes of Syria and Iran keep feulling terrorism without the slightest regard for the lives of the defenceless Iraqi's; and then they turn around and blame the U.S., President Bush and the coalition.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at May 02, 2007 12:01 PM (j97MF)

18 Hey, Good Lt.  where do I say that I don't believe terrorist's attacks are down, or even mention attacks by terrorists, or suggest any of my thoughts apply to the number of  terrorist  attacks?  Further, what don't I want to be true, relating to terrorist's attacks?  I was talking about how mismanaged this war in Iraq has been, how the American voting public needs to redress their values prior to voting, how we haven't got the right wake up call to mobilize an effective attitude toward winning, we being the most powerful country on this planet, with supposedly the smartest sons-of-bitches wearing a military uniform.  Perhaps our only real problem exists with those who we elected...passive aggressives hiding behind a law degrees (the wise men--do you know the percentage in power?) who think using their tongues and holding up books on law will deter, stop, and neutralize the bad guys...those we have labeled as terrorists, but who I think are a much larger group which I refer to as a mass movement...try  barbarians if you like...geeze!
  Gosh, who's reading what where, here?  Bad Lt, bad.  Keep this up and a frag may come your way!

Posted by: RJ at May 02, 2007 01:08 PM (yyxO/)

19 f we want to level the playing field we need to send every legislator
to law school, both here and in the Islamic world.  Then, and only
then, will truly "wise men" be in control.

RJ, are you being sarcastic? It's impossible to tell with your rambling.

I oppose any system which seeks to guarantee that the great unwashed masses are shut out of power.  As a fancy pantsed lawyer, I know that most lawyers are morons.  They may have more 'knowledge' than the average citizen, but their capacity for reason and objectivity is collectively no better than the non-retarded, literate members of the American public.  But with lawyers, their arrogance compounds their moronic tendencies.  I say it's better to have a system run by humble idiots than one run by self-righteous idiots.

Posted by: wooga at May 02, 2007 01:23 PM (t9sT5)

20 Bad news for the IF IT BLEEDS IT LEADS news media that dont sell their crappy news papers

Posted by: sandpiper at May 02, 2007 03:37 PM (vnSBY)

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Via ABCNEWS breaking news email

THE PENTAGON SAYS IT HAS ONE OF AL QAEDA'S MOST SENIOR OPERATIVES IN ITS CUSTODY, HE WAS CAUGHT BY THE CIA.

The Department of Defense announced today that it took custody Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi, a high-level member of al-Qaida captured in the War on Terror and placed him under control of the Joint Task Force at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Prior to his arrival at Guantanamo Bay, he was held in CIA custody.

Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi was one of al-Qaida’s highest-ranking and experienced senior operatives at the time of his detention. Abd al-Hadi associated with leaders of extremist groups allied with al-Qaida in Afghanistan and Pakistan, including the Taliban. Abd al-Hadi worked directly with the Taliban to determine responsibility and lines of communication between Taliban and al-Qaida leaders in Afghanistan, specifically with regard to the targeting of U.S. Forces. More details of his background and activities are available here.

Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi is now under DoD custody and control and will be treated appropriately and in accordance with policy and procedures for other DoD detainees at Guantanamo. He will be treated in accordance with U.S. law and international obligations under treaties to include the Convention Against Torture, Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions, the Detainee Treatment Act, the Military Commissions Act, and applicable Department of Defense directives and instructions governing detainee operations.

Update II by Howie: The Times is reporting that Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi was to the 7/7 bombing what KSM was to 9/11.

The al-Qaeda leader who is thought to have devised the plan for the July 7 suicide bombings in London and an array of terrorist plots against Britain has been captured by the Americans.

Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi, a former major in Saddam Hussein’s army, was apprehended as he tried to enter Iraq from Iran and was transferred this week to the “high-value detainee programme” at Guantanamo Bay.

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More good news. The Saudis have made a huge bust. They say the terrorists included non-Saudis and some were trained as pilots. Was Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi among them or caught while fleeing these raids? I'm not sure but some are speculating that may be the case.

The captured booty includes plastic explosives, handguns and rifles, ammunition and over 32 million dollars.

Apparently they were well informed of al-Qaeda's plans, it is reported that Al-Ekhbariah television showed images of security forces uncovering items hidden beneath floors and digging up weapons caches in the desert.

AP Via Yahoo News: RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - Police arrested 172 Islamic militants, some of whom had trained abroad as pilots so they could fly aircraft in attacks on Saudi Arabia's oil fields, the Interior Ministry said Friday. A spokesman said all that remained in the plot "was to set the zero hour."

"They had reached an advance stage of readiness and what remained only was to set the zero hour for their attacks," Interior Ministry spokesman Brig. Mansour al-Turki told the Associated Press in a phone call. "They had the personnel, the money, the arms. Almost all the elements for terror attacks were complete except for setting the zero hour for the attacks."

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1 Does anyone here really trust the Saudis enough to believe this shit? Not me. This was probably staged to make them look like they are fighting terrorists, and as soon as the cameras were off they probably gave them a pat on the back and showed them the door. I'm calling BS on this one. I take anything that comes out of the Middle East with a grain of salt.

Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at April 27, 2007 11:03 AM (ptO0I)

2 True, but al-Qaeda dislikes the Saudi government as well.  We have a common enemy/problem. 

Posted by: Darth Odie at April 27, 2007 11:27 AM (YHZAl)

3 ABC is reporting he was captured in late 2006 and the Saudi operation is claimed to be a nine month long operation.

Posted by: Darth Odie at April 27, 2007 11:57 AM (YHZAl)

4 Wahhabism is the dominant form of Islam in Saudi Arabia. The very same Wahhabism that literally interprets the tenents of Islam to such an extent that music is illegal, photographs are illegal, progressivism is illegal etc. This is on top of the subjugation of women, corporal punishment for homosexuality, submission of everyone (or death) to Islam etc., i.e. Islam vanilla. Basically an extreme form of something already very extreme.
Why is Saudi Arabia an ally of the US? I seriously can't think of a single concrete reason. Even the 'I have to make friends with the least scummy of these scumbags,' argument doesn't hold much sway.
I guess the headline could read, 'Saudi Arabia arrests 172 Saudi citizens,' or something.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahabi

Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at April 27, 2007 12:29 PM (HEbmd)

5 Yep, the chickens always come home to roost  as my gandpappy likes to say.

Posted by: Darth Odie at April 27, 2007 12:33 PM (YHZAl)

6 If people would stop messing with the long range plan, S. Arabia would get straightened out a lot sooner.  IMO.             
                  USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 27, 2007 01:51 PM (2OHpj)

7 Looks like the Saudi's have done a better job at stopping their 9/11 than we did.

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A few days ago we reported that the al Qada front group, The Islamic State of Iraq, had announced the formation of a "shadow government". One of the men appointed to that "government" was Muhammad Abdullah Abbas al-Issawi, aka Abu Abd al-Sattar (Jabbar) and Abu Akram. Al-Issawi is said to have recruited suicide bombers as young as 12 years old.

He has been killed by Coalition forces. He will not be missed.

Short lived "shadow government" indeed. more...

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I was surfing MNF's youtube site this morning and found the video below. Of course Allahpundit had beat me to it yesterday. Still, if you watch it and don't cry, you are a heartless bastage!

More here from Mary Katharine Ham at Townhall.

Kidnapping and murder of hostages by both Shia and Sunni terrorists in Iraq is a major problem. These tit-for-tat revenge kidnapping and killings only serve no purpose other than to create more hardship for all Iraqi's.

While we are on the subject of hostage rescues, I've added a couple recent press releases from centcom detailing efforts to find and reunite hostages with their families. See below the fold... more...

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I just couldn't pass this up. The CENTCOM press release headline literally says 'Polar Bears seize terrorists and weapons cache'. I imagine it looked something like this-->

RUSHDI MULLAH, Iraq — Coalition forces detained an 18 year-old terrorist and discovered a weapons cache along Route Malibu south of here Saturday.

Scouts from the 4th Battalion, 31st Infantry Regiment “Polar Bears,” 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division (Light Infantry) detained the terrorist and found the cache during a combat operation.

The scouts noticed two local national men emplacing an improvised explosive device along Route Malibu. The patrol engaged them with small arms fire.

One terrorist was wounded during the incident, both were captured.

The scouts then searched the area where they were emplacing the IED and found a cell phone, a shovel and copper wire.

The wounded terrorist was medically evacuated to Patrol Base Inchon for medical care.

Both are being held for further questioning.

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1
The Ice Blog
 - The Journal of a Polar Bear in Iraq

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/spenc148/iceblog/

Posted by: Fred Fry at March 26, 2007 10:01 PM (7GYWw)

2 Lovely picture Rusty, so fitting!

Posted by: allahakchew at March 26, 2007 10:10 PM (BrndJ)

3 Don't you wish the red stuff was John Lyin?

Posted by: greyrooster at March 26, 2007 10:39 PM (Il8Q1)

4 So basically, if I get this right, then we can expect more polar bears to come south looking for kibbles in the form of terrorists, all thanks to Al Gore and his lifestyle?                 USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 27, 2007 03:45 AM (2OHpj)

5 Pro Patria Polar Bears!! Keep up the Fire!!!!!!!!

Posted by: firefirefire at March 27, 2007 03:48 AM (pjXcC)

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Joe Gandalman on Tony Snow's class. I had no idea Tony Snow was a cancer survivor. I also had no idea that he will go in for surgery tomorrow to have a growth removed. We wish Tony Snow the best and a quick recovery.

I noticed Joe didn't mention it in his post, but he just found out that his father has terminal lung cancer. Send him your prayers.

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Via Anmdrokos International: Saragozza, 14 March (AKI) - A Spanish man has been arrested in the northeastern town of Zaragoza on suspicion of promoting terrorism on the Internet. A Moroccan citizen was also arrested Wednesday in an unspecified Spanish location during an ongoing anti-terror operation by the Civil Guard which says it may lead to further arrests. The 31-year-old Spaniard and the 23-year-old Moroccan - both male - are allegedly the webmasters of the Spanish jihadist website Al-Andalus Islamiya which publishes messages supporting and justifying Islamist terrorism.

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Good news:

AP via Yahoo News: LONDON - Five Europeans abducted almost two weeks ago in one of Ethiopia's most remote and inhospitable regions were released Tuesday in neighboring Eritrea after the government there pressured tribal leaders to intervene, officials said. British officials would not say whether a ransom had been paid....

....Beckett said officials "continue to be concerned for the welfare" of eight Ethiopians abducted at the same time.

She would not say whether ransom was paid in return for the European hostages' release. "I can't tell you that and I'm not sure I would, actually," Beckett said.

We also pray for the release of the eight Ethiopians still held captive.

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It looks a lot more certain than previous reports of his capture.

AP via Yahoo News Baghdad: The leader of the al-Qaida-affiliated Islamic State ofIraq was captured Friday in a raid west of Baghdad — his identity revealed by a fellow insurgent detained with him, an Iraqi military spokesman said.

Abu Omar al-Baghdadi was captured in a raid in Abu Ghraib on the western outskirts of Baghdad, said Brig. Gen. Qassim al-Moussawi, spokesman of the Baghdad security operation. U.S. officials had no confirmation of the capture.

"One of the terrorists who was arrested with him confessed that the one in our hands is al-Baghdadi," al-Moussawi said.

Al-Baghdadi has been identified in statements posted on Islamic extremist Web sites as the head of the Islamic State, which was proclaimed last year after the death of the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

This morning we got “the Butcher,” whoever the hell he is, and an Al Qaeda “media emir” a.k.a. courier north of Mosul

The Irony is that the one knowns as courier was just bragging Baghdadi ordering a raid in Mosul. They claimed to have released 150 terrorists. A couple of which may have been Baghdadi's close relatives.

al-Qaeda's umbrella group, the ISI via their website: The brothers withdrew safely by the grace of Allah and we shall provide you with more details and a meeting with the leader of the brigade and some released captives as well Allah willing

Andrew Cochran has more here at Counterterrorismblog

So can I have a big, "F*ck Yeah!"?

Update:

Via Reuters: BAGHDAD, Iraq (Reuters) - A top leader of an al-Qaeda linked group arrested on Friday and initially thought to be Abu Omar al-Baghdadi was not in fact the head of the Islamic State of Iraq, Iraqi officials said on Saturday... ..."We captured a figure who was a senior al-Qaeda member and we suspected that he was Abu Omar al-Baghdadi but after initial investigations it was proven it was not Abu Omar al-Baghdadi. But he was a senior al-Qaeda leader," said Iraqi military spokesman Qassim Moussawi.

The only consolation is the MSM picked this one up too and that really pisses off the ISI. And as Rusty says, "Isn't pissing off the Jihadis what The Jawa Report is all about?"

Mmmmmm, never had to eat, "F*ck Yeahs!", for breakfast. Pretty tasty. So, can I get a big, Well F*ck!? more...

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Of course, these soldiers are gathering pro-war signatures. You won't see this in the MSM.

My apologies to LT Jason Nichols, USN MNF-I, Baghdad. Your e-mail ended up in my spam folder.

In completely unrelated news, I'm presently listening to this week's Shire News Network podcast. In this week's podcast: Andy vs. Esmay.

If you haven't noticed, we now have former Dean's World contributor and longtime personal friend Jane Novak blogging for us from time to time. You can expect her wit and potty mouth pretty much anytime the government of Yemen decides she's public enemy numero uno. Or whenever the hell she feels like it! Capiche?

What can I say? She's just a Zionist-whore Islamophobe. How ya like dem apples?

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1 "What can I say? She's just a Zionist-whore Islamophobe. How ya like dem apples?"                 
                                                                                                         An apple a day keeps the Jihad away              USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 06, 2007 06:12 PM (2OHpj)

2 Sweet Jane The Liberator.

Posted by: Howie at March 06, 2007 06:16 PM (YHZAl)

3

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

 

Posted by: jane at March 06, 2007 07:41 PM (XXEg4)

4 I love Jane. Always one of my favorites.

Posted by: dick at March 06, 2007 08:37 PM (mqpu2)

5 The appeal for redress was linked at Michelle Malkins site 2 weeks ago and then the NY Slimes did a story on the other appeal and I emailed the reporter and she actually responsed and said she did not know about it so I sent her the link and guess what ? "crickets" and more "crickets".  The Slimes printing all the news that is fit to their bias.

Posted by: Rightmom at March 06, 2007 10:41 PM (ElLn4)

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Pakistan has captured Mullah Obaidullah Akhund, who was once Defense Minister under the Taliban. Akhund is said to be the Taliban's #3 in command and very close to Osama bin Laden.

Andy Cochran calls it a "huge capture". Roggio says his capture could be a boon for intelligence if the Pakistanis will give us access to him. But to really connect the dots as to why this is both good and bad news, go read Allahpundit's post.

And since I haven't mentioned it in months, who's willing to lay cash on the line that the reason bin Laden isn't meeting any one in al Qaeda or the Talliban face to face these days is for one simple reason: he's not on Tatooine anymore.

My money says Africa, but I'm willing to place a hedge bet somewhere between Indonesia and the Philippines.

I know you all think I'm crazy whenever I mention this. Yeah, crazy.....like a fox.

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1 Hmmm, what a wealth of information this guy could be if we can get our hands on him. Sadly however if we do get our hands on him our traitorous dummycrats will fight to have him released.
 
 
 
 
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=16834

Posted by: doriangrey at March 01, 2007 08:04 PM (JeeIJ)

2 ALRIGHT, I confess, I'm a scientist (but I didn't give anyone syphilis to experiment on them, or anything).  However, when it comes to Osama Bin Laden, I like to stick with Occam's Razor (the Law of Parsimony), which insists on the simplest comprehensive explanation for things.  DATA: Death of close associates of Osama at Tora Bora (Zawahiri's wife & kids)... No videos of Osama since Tora Bora late 2001... No clear audio recordings of Osama since then, all of them full of static, in spite of improving production values for other Al Qaida audio and video... Clear and un-diminishing arguments by software experts from Switzerland and elsewhere that software has existed for years which can duplicate human speech patterns almost perfectly, including accents, pausing, intonation, etc... To make it impossible to differentiate from the real thing, add background static... The US and Pakistan seem to have given up looking for Osama... Zawahiri has taken over as principal spokesman, despite obvious shortcomings in oratory and charisma... Al Qaida renewed claims today that Osama is alive (while admitting that few have seen him)... If he was dead, I would not expect the US or Al Qaida to admit it (the US does not want Osama as a martyr, and Al Qaida needs a figurehead).  CONCLUSION: The Law of Parsimony suggests that in the absence of any good evidence to the contrary, I assume that Osama is DEAD.

Posted by: DemocracyRules at March 01, 2007 08:10 PM (L/SIz)

3 i can't really picture the fuzzy bean pole dragging a dialysis machine across the nasty sand & hills of war-torn africa.

bin laden is dead. he has been since tora bora.

guaranteed.

Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at March 01, 2007 08:43 PM (6dPYq)

4 With all due respect gentemenz... I'd personally rather stick to Murphy's Law when it comes to relying on The Law of Parsimony.

Until I see his DNA splattered all over the inside of a cave in chunks, I consider him to be breathing.

..nuff said.

Posted by: mrclark at March 01, 2007 10:07 PM (QSqIX)

5 mrclark,
 

You are right, when dealing with a murderous insane psychopath only his dead cold body justifies believing him to be dead. Anything else constitutes a delusional fantasy worthy only of left wing moonbat treasonous dummycrats.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=16834

Posted by: doriangrey at March 01, 2007 10:25 PM (JeeIJ)

6 The fucker is dead.
 
Get a clue.

Posted by: GOP Core at March 01, 2007 11:33 PM (b0FZu)

7 I would agree he was dead myself.

However IF I was Bin Laden and wanted to hide out I think I would shave my beard put on a suite get a western hair cut and go chill out somewere either in the US or EU in a 4th or 5th teir city preferably one with a pop of many darker skin immigrants but not a large Muslim pop.  I would get a regular john doe white colar (bin laden is royalty he aint gettin his hands dirty) pray only at my house and every once in a blue moon cut a voice only tape on a OLD school recorder not one of these new fangled digital jobs put the tape in the mail to abib who can send it to dula who can give it to Akmed who visits Egypt once a year and on.

The average John Doe seeing a cleaned up Hazus Broloca spanish immigrant aka bin laden wouldnt think anything of it short maybe a joke damm you look like Bin Laden ha aha ah whatever.  As for the gov we are looking in Muslim areas not the Burbs.

Posted by: C-Low at March 01, 2007 11:47 PM (esMSg)

8

Bin Laden is in Guerneville having enjoying a gay three-way with greyrooster and Improbulus Maximus.

Posted by: Hot Pot at March 02, 2007 12:17 AM (b0FZu)

9 The only thing between Indonesia and the Philippines is a strait of water.


Bin Loser ain't a merman.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at March 02, 2007 02:12 AM (Dt3sl)

10 Excellent!

As for Bin-Laden's whereabouts I would speculate Africa, if not the part of Afghanistan closest to China or Waziristan province of Pakistan.
You might recall the discussion we had last year surrounding big Russian-made Cargo planes being chartered from Khazagistan to Sudan (or was it Somalia).

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at March 02, 2007 08:14 AM (vixLB)

11 Last time I proclaimed his death, I remember an audio coming out.

I HOPE he's dead, and SUSPECT that he is.  But I was a Boy Scout: Be prepared that he's alive.

It's also very likely that news of urgent need for dialysis was overblown.

Posted by: Rusty at March 02, 2007 09:03 AM (JQjhA)

12 I stand by the fact that OBL is 100% underground.

As far as the Taliban capture news... how long do you give til he's released pending good conduct by the ISI? Or he -cough- wasn't captured at all, it was a mistaken report! See, there he is roaming Quetta a week later!

Posted by: MidnightSun at March 02, 2007 12:58 PM (nR/14)

13 Maybe he's takin lessons from Elvis

Posted by: wb at March 06, 2007 11:23 AM (dFKOS)

14 I see a previously run out of here asshole has changed his handle to Hot Pot.

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Here you go John

Via CNN: BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Eighty militants were killed and 50 were captured in fighting between Iraqi security forces and militants in Anbar province, the violent area west of Baghdad, the Iraqi Interior Ministry said Thursday.

Iraqi police and soldiers, along with tribal leaders, battled al Qaeda in Iraq fighters in the Amriyat al-Falluja village, an Interior Ministry spokesman said.

A police official in the area, Ahmed al-Falluji, told Reuters news agency that 70 militants died in the fighting, and said three police officers also were killed. The statement from the Interior Ministry gave no information on casualties to Iraqi security forces or police.

The fighting started Wednesday afternoon when dozens of militants attacked the village, about 12 miles (19 kilometers) south of Falluja, where local tribes have taken an anti-al Qaeda stance.

Reuters said residents fled the village when the attack began and asked Iraqi security forces for help. Fighting lasted through Wednesday evening.

Three foreign fighters were among those captured.

American troops were not involved, a U.S. military spokesman in Falluja told Reuters.

Also see AJStrata at Stratasphere.

Update: More good news from Jules Crittenden and more on this story from WAPO here. more...

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You can run, but you can't hide Abu Ayyub al-Masri! That's two al Qaeda in Iraq "emirs" captured in two days. This follows closely on the heels of the Islamic State of Iraq's (the al Qaeda umbrella group)* return to a spree of hostage beheadings. Payback: it is indeed a bitch.

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Coalition Forces detained 12 suspected terrorists including a suspected Al-Qaeda in Iraq emir during raids Tuesday morning targeting foreign fighter facilitators and the al-Qaeda in Iraq network.

During an operation in Baghdad, Coalition Forces captured a suspected al-Qaeda in Iraq emir and three of his associates. Based on intelligence reports, these suspects are allegedly involved in the production of improvised explosive devices.

Also in Baghdad, Coalition Forces detained two suspected terrorists who have alleged ties to al-Qaeda in Iraq and anti-Coalition Forces activities.
Two suspected terrorists were detained during a raid in Mosul.

Intelligence reports indicate the suspected terrorists have ties with an al-Qaeda terrorist who has coordinated attacks against Iraqi security and U.S. military personnel.

On Monday morning, Coalition Forces detained 15 suspected terrorists including a suspected al-Qaeda in Iraq emir during raids targeting foreign fighter facilitators and the al-Qaeda in Iraq network. During the operation in Baghdad, Coalition Forces captured a suspected al-Qaeda in Iraq emir and one of his associates.

But wait, more al Qaeda linked terrorists were captured in the past two days. Many more. more...

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One of the nutosphere's favorite pastimes (taking over-the-top comments left at righty blogs and pretending that they're the comments of the host) has just lost its legal validity.There is a difference between the commenter and the host, as far as federal law is concerned:

Examining the impact of Sec. 230 on this case, the court noted that "Congress intended that, within broad limits, message board operators would not be held responsible for the postings made by others on that board," adding that allowing bloggers and message board operators to be sued for the statements of commenters on their sites would have an "obvious chilling effect" on speech. Accordingly, the court dismissed the complaint against Lycos.

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1 Esmay weeps.

Posted by: Vinnie at February 27, 2007 01:24 AM (fdAim)

2 Lucky for you guys. If Osamisdonal represented you, this site would be open to litigation by anyone with a conscience.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 27, 2007 03:42 AM (Dt3sl)

3 I'm glad my posting things won't get YOU in trouble     I think I'll still be careful all the same.         USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 27, 2007 03:54 AM (2OHpj)

4

OFF TOPIC Osamabintrying

Remember this guy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Ramadan

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1344-2004Sep6.html

"Ramadan is not directly involved in terrorist activities, but many of his supporters are."

I have some understanding of the distinction. For what lies behind that statement, and other reasons, he doesn't get a passing grade. I chose to link an example article that argues he isn't moderate. 

Since my standard for 'moderate'  is based on how the individual feels about the institution of Sharia, I can't accept him as such. It's pretty clear he likes Sharia, he just wants to inject an acceptance of some modernity to it. He is pretty much a slick, Islamic imperialist.  I'd characterise him as the perfect example of  someone using 'taqiyya' to lower our cultural guard.

I have more links than this, but then, so do you ...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/800naxnt.asp?pg=1

Anyway, I think it was at least a good attempt.

I've met a guy through YouTube who might, maybe be a good source, but I think he sees this through the lense of 'one way multiculturalism' so I'm not holding my breath. the only Muslim I fully accept as moderate, and that I've exchanged any information with, doesn't want to take a public stand. I find that very discouraging.

USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 27, 2007 04:02 AM (2OHpj)

5

Cherish words while they yet have value.  Use them well.

In time, it is written, that words will fail. The Norse called that day Ragnarok, and on that final day, all that was left of good, would face all the accumulated evil of creation, in a final showdown. Surt will burn the entire world with fire ...  Only after complete devestation will a new world arise from the ashes of the old, and humanity can begin again....

Odin, ruler of the Gods, had the gift of prophecy, and knew that day he would die, killed in battle by the wolf Fenrir! But Odin does not cower, or weep, or ask for sympathy. He gathers the souls of the brave to Valhalla. At night they eat, drink, and celebrate stories of valor. During the day, they train for war, until Ragnarok, and the end of time finally comes.

Oh moderate Muslim! Where are you? We strain our ears! We listen for your voice! Do we only hear the distant howling of wolves? If so, let us celebrate, and sharpen our spears, for we will allow no wolf to go unchallenged!

USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 27, 2007 04:20 AM (2OHpj)

6 Michael:

Yeah, that guy was someone who just blipped up on the radar one day. I hadn't done any in-depth research of him, but thought if you hadn't heard of him you'd want to investigate. Anyway, you know where I stand with religion...haha. I remember reading some anthropological article once that claimed religion started like this: Around when early humans started using tools they started figuring out the relationship between action/reaction or cause/effect. When they couldn't explain the unexplainable, religion was born. Supposedly it wasn't a conscious decision, but merely their brains filling in the gaps. Sort of like how our eyes sum together vision seamlessly from our two eyes. Interesting theory. Probably offensive to anyone who is religious and doesn't believe in evolution. I'm way off subject...me finding you a moderate Muslim ain't gonna be easy! I simply don't know many Muslims in general.

Posted by: osamabinhiding at February 27, 2007 01:30 PM (ZxuJ4)

7 Osama: Your theory is different than mine. Religion was invented becuase early humans were screwing all day and all night.  Nothing got done, no progress. So some guy invented religion. Told them sex was bad. Next thing you know, civilization.  They were probably a lot happier screwing all day in the jungle.

Posted by: Darth Odie at February 27, 2007 04:40 PM (YHZAl)

8

I've heard that theory, but I have another. Some creatures can see heat, whil others can only feel it. Spirtuality is a sensitivity issue in practical scientific terms. Now I just have to prove that theory.

My favorite explaination besides that is that human beings decided to stop letting things eat them, and embraced a heavenly parent who affirmed their status. If the wolves want to feast, let them feast on thier own bloody demise.

I've been an Atheist, and rejected it, but I don't condemn those who aren't bigoted about it. My experiences as an Atheist weren't fulfilling and I found my anchor through exploration of other philosphies. As you can see, I remain fond of the Norse traditions.

It's all about battling wolves and giants, and partying afterwards, if you over simplify it. 

God bless the intellectually honest!

USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 27, 2007 04:57 PM (2OHpj)

9 I guess along with Christianity my other religion is our Constitutional Republic. Funny, it's said that Thor challenged Christ to personal combat once ....    Ah fun fun!              USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 27, 2007 05:00 PM (2OHpj)

10 Darth Odie: Maybe that's why I'm a Atheist...Nobody has ever been able to convince me that sex is bad! Haha. I do remember going to church as a young boy and I never felt things were right. I always had this feeling that everyone was full of crap and didn't believe any of it for a second. Then again it was a Unitarian church, so maybe I was right!

Michael: So what made you become a Atheist and what made you get into Christianity? I've always felt fulfilled with my stance, but I've known many who aren't. Some might call it ignorance, but I feel it's very humble to admit that the human mind or consciousness isn't capable of explaining everything in the universe. I'd almost say that it would be egocentric or delusional to think you could. Just my point of view though. I have been bigoted about it sometimes, but I try not to. When it comes down to it, I don't care if you think the moon is made of cheese...just don't kill people or blow shit up if I don't believe you.

Posted by: osamabinhiding at February 27, 2007 08:17 PM (JVqe0)

11 Osamaisanasshole:


Do you know anything about Christianiaty? Your opinions and delusions about religion are positively sophomoric. The leftist standard, without deviance.


The only deviancies you suffer from are moral, ethical, and empathic.


Don't forget to let Al Qaeda overrun Iraq. America needs to give them free reign by attacking them were they don't operate, according to you.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 28, 2007 04:20 AM (Dt3sl)

12

My comparative religion rant: Warning.

I was raised by an 'Atheist' and a 'Christian'. My parents left me free to believe what I wanted. My interst in prehistoric life, anthroplogy, and related theoretical material, took me past the point of accepting Noah's flood, and the official 'church' age of the planet we live on. At that point I decided that Christianity couldn't be right, if there were wrong things being taught to us in scripture.

So I plunged almost directly into association with what was mostly a bunch of Atheists with a pretty strong streak of hedonism. After all, morals were suppossed to be from God, and if I no longer believed in the Bible, then what good were the morals described there?

I think it's worth mentioning, that what happened to me, is exactly what Christian parents are afraid will happen to their children if moral influences from the Bible, are not encouraged. In short, the battle for creation science owes at least something to the fear that Darwinism promotes amoral behavior. I agree with that view from experience, though I also accept evolutionary science as accurate.  We should at least require the study of ethics.

Besides rejecting the behavior of my Atheist friends, I had experiences which I deemed to be spiritual. These led me to explore many other religions, including Nordic paganism, and Wicca. I've made friends across many religious boundries, and I'm about as unbigoted about religion as I think you can get. If you don't care how I pray, I don't care how you pray, or even if you do. I'm not a Theo-cop.

I came back into Christianity from the outside. I was one of those who bought into the ACLU version of the 'seperation clause' and I studied religion to expand on my knowledge of human behavior. It tied in with other areas of study. Anthroplogy, Sociology, Psycholgy, and Philosophy.  The ethical teaching of Jesus stood out, and I have to say that if you bother to read Jesus in context, you will see that what he is saying is inclusive. The message of forgiveness is transcendent, and it is a divine message.  So ...

I am a non-denominational Christian.  I still study Norse religion though. It fascinates me. 

I've also studied the 'seperation clause' as the ACLU works it, and I now believe the ACLU has it backwards. Free exercise is for every belief, everywhere, all the time. Even Atheism.

I have reached a breaking point with one religion though.  I have posted many times asking about moderate Muslims. I have had a few who would comment with me, but I could never get one to say that they were against substituting Sharia, for our US Constitution. That threatens free exercise for everyone.

They would cushion thier opinion with "well if the people voted for it then they should have it" but on another site, I asked a Muslim a few days ago ... How do you vote Sharia out, after it has been voted in?  He has not responded. Nor can we really expect a response. Sharia is meant to be an end result, not a changing condition subject to the democratic will of the people. In short, once you have a totalitarian system, you don't ever vote it out. Not ever.

Islam is to be spread peacefully if possible, but if that is not possible, it must be spread by the sword. This is a deep truth within Islam, and anyone who tells you different, is uneducated, or a liar. Islam must conquer, and rule, and it uses it's own faithful to do the work, and offers them paradise if they die in the cause. This is a non-negotiable state of affairs. Islam is here to be the dominant religion.

So Muslim's must convert, subdue, or kill my Christian friends, my Jewish friends, and (maybe) my Bhuddist friends. They must convert or kill (not subdue) my Nordic pagan friends, my Atheist friends, my Wiccan friends, or any of my friends who are not allowed to be Dhimmi. So pretty much all my family and friends are on a list for Islam to settle with. It doesn't matter if we like Darwin, or Creation science, we're on the same list. That is a higher priority than anything else we face as a society. We need to realize that.

So I'm OK with other religions as a rule ... but ...

Islam is the most different kind of religion I've ever seen. I feel that in my life, I've seen evil close up enough to recognize it. Islam wasn't hijacked by radicals! The fundamentalists are cleaning house! Now Muslims who don't tow the fundamentalist islamic line are apostates!   I don't think all Muslim's are evil, but I'll probably offend all Muslim's when I say that Islam, is a force for evil.

I stared into the abyss, and Islam stared back. I'm hitting a wall. A breaking point. The Gjallerhorn is sounding!  Naglfar has sailed. Is your spear sharp, and close at hand?

Anyway, yep, I was an Atheist, but it didn't work out. My search for a moderate Muslim is my effort at turning the other cheek.

USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 28, 2007 04:36 AM (2OHpj)

13

osamabinhiding,   "sex is bad"  

Well it can be, it really can be.  I've seen some of my past friends cast off the last evenings intimacy like a pair of old dirty socks. I've seen them cheat on their so called girl friends. I've seen them lie about really being in love with a girl till she leaves the room. "Oh she's got a pretty face but ..."!

I've watched them steal each others women, and I've watched them pass fragile disfunctional women around the room, legally, because it was consensual. But a hurt and vulnerable human being, desperate for affirmation from others, may not be the best person to be giving consent.  I could go on ...

Yeah, sex can be bad.

I think it would serve you well to avoid those kind of casual generalizations about religious ethics. 

                            Rant over ... USA, all the way!       

Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 28, 2007 05:03 AM (2OHpj)

14 Michael, concerning your "sex is bad" post:

I'd say almost everything you listed as bad had more to do with lying, disrespect, manipulation, disconnection, etc. I wouldn't equate those with sex. People can do some pretty messed up things, wether they are religious or not. I'll use myself as an example...I've never done any of the things you said you've witnessed, yet religion had nothing to do with it. It was entirely how I was brought up and the values instilled by my parents. Also, by sex I didn't mean going around humping everything in sight. I meant sex in general, and how premarital sex is viewed by many faiths.

As far as the other posting, it's interesting to hear about your journey. Trust me, Islam scares the shit out of me too. The problem is, trying to stamp out any religion usually just motivates them more. It's like playing whack-a-mole. I certainly don't have any solutions...the future looks grim to me.

Posted by: osamabinhiding at February 28, 2007 05:49 PM (ZxuJ4)

15 A lot of what those people did, was done to get the sex.           
                        USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 28, 2007 11:09 PM (2OHpj)

16 "was done to get the sex."

Hehehe, but I wasn't referring to how someone ends up having it. Of course you could connect something to anything if you want to. I'm talking about the act itself.

Posted by: osamabinhiding at March 01, 2007 06:55 PM (ZxuJ4)

17 Then be fruitful and multiply, if you will excuse the reference.    USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 01, 2007 07:09 PM (2OHpj)

18 On that note, I plan to! I'm getting married this summer and we will probably have a critter within the next 2 years.

Posted by: osamabinhiding at March 01, 2007 10:28 PM (ZxuJ4)

19 Nice site!

Posted by: celexa at May 20, 2007 02:37 AM (EiWnq)

20 Very good work!

Posted by: xanax at May 21, 2007 02:10 PM (EiWnq)

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