Despite CAIR's Threats, the Show Did Go On
Robert Spencer spoke today at the Young America's Foundation despite CAIR's threat that they would sue YAF if Spencer made any defamatory remarks. I guess YAF called CAIR's bluff, eh?
Anyway, most of you already knew this since we all travel in the same blog circles. But since Robert has become something of a friend--in the online sense of the word--then I just wanted to give him some props. Good going man and good going to the people at YAF for standing up the the bullies in CAIR.
The man has a set of cajones much larger than me. Despite death threats he's out there in the public eye criticizing those elements of Islam that are most dangerous, repressive, and violent.
And Stacy McCain has a partial transcript of the speech. Here's a teaser:
If CAIR succeeds in smearing and silencing all those who dare to speak about the elements of Islam that jihadists use to justify their actions, and who dare to call upon CAIR itself and other groups to go beyond vaguely-worded condemnations of terrorism to real efforts to teach against the jihad ideology in schools and mosques, what chance do we have to resist the spread of that ideology? ...
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Sharia Comes to New York
In America burning a flag is free speech, but flushing the Koran is a felony. Welcome to the brave new world.
Since I have several copies of the Koran laying around the house, I think it's time to flush another one. The image that got The Jawa Report officially banned in India, shortly after the Mumbai bombings. The Indian government apparently under the impression that Koran flushings cause terrorism.
Fifth Column Attacks Giuliani
CAIR is going after Rudy Giuliani because he used the words "Islamic terrorism". CAIR:
CONTACT the Rudy Giuliani Presidential Committee to express your concerns about his promotion of linking the faith of Islam to terrorism.
Gee, wouldn't it be more appropriate for CAIR to start a letter writing campaign to the Salafi (al Qaeda types) and Khomeinist (Shia) jihadis who not only link the faith of Islam to terrorism but preach that Allah requires it?
To paraphrase SNL, "Also causing Islam to be linked to terrorism, terrorists."
Subsidizing Dhimmitude
Why am I not shocked to learn that the Federal government is subsidizing Saudi efforts to dhimmify my kids?
By lavishly funding several organizations that design Saudi-friendly English-language K-12 curricula, all that remains is to convince the “outreach coordinators†at prestigious, federally subsidized universities to purvey these materials to America’s teachers. And wouldn’t you know it, outreach coordinators or teacher-trainers at a number of university Middle East Studies centers have themselves been trained by the very same Saudi-funded foundations that design K-12 course materials. These Saudi-friendly folks happily build their outreach efforts around Saudi-financed K-12 curricula.....
The upshot of all this is that the close links between Saudi funded curriculum-development and teacher-training programs, on the one hand, and federally subsidized university programs of Middle East Studies, on the other, has opened up a back-door route to Saudi influence over America’s K-12 curriculum.
Just another day at the Department of Education!
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John Doe: Not. Dead. Yet.
Good news from Audrey Hudson on the John Doe immunity provision--looks like it's not quite dead yet. But the Senate Democratic leadership is still trying to silently kill it. It's time to chime in NOW NOW NOW. Michelle has the relevant politico contacts and AllahP has the relevant media contacts info, although I'm afraid that if we don't get heard TONIGHT it will be too late.
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While condemning terrorism is always the decent thing to do, lying to people about Islam isn't. You'll notice that "Not in Our Name" website is islamispeace.org.uk. Islam doesn't mean peace, it means submission.
Why do these ad campaigns inevitably lead me to the conclusion that those responsible think bigotry and prejudice are more problematic than suicide bombs, murder, and terrorism?
I'd feel a lot better if the campaign was designed to convince Muslims that Islam is peaceful, rather than convincing non-Muslims of it.
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Democrats Trying to Stifle Terror Whistleblowers (UPDATED: Good News?)
They tried to quietly kill a provision to protect "John Doe" whistleblowers from civil lawsuit by the terrorist enablers in CAIR once before. Thanks to blogosphere outrage, it didn't happen. Looks like they're trying to do it again. Again, quietly in conference committee, in hopes of not raising the alarm.
Democrats are trying to pull a provision from a homeland security bill that will protect the public from being sued for reporting suspicious behavior that may lead to a terrorist attack, according to House Republican leadership aides...
Republicans aides say they will put up a fight with Democrats when the conference committee begins at 1 p.m., to reinsert the language, but that public pressure is also needed.
A Senate Republican aide says they scored one victory when the chamber's parliamentarian ruled this morning that the "John Doe" protections are within the scope of the legislation and can be included by amendment.
"Combine that with the public outcry and Democrats may be forced to cave," the aide said.
CAIR: War on Terror is Bad, mmmkay
Is CAIR suffering from teenage angst, or what? WaTimes:
Mr. Ahmed, who spoke at CAIR symposium at the National Press Club, said the war against terrorists is driven by an "irrational" fear that the Bush administration has inculcated in the American public....
"The popular discourse in America today remains mired in stereotypical denouncements about Islam. As a result Muslims and their faith remained misunderstood, feared and shunned."
Hollywood Welcomes It's New Muslim Overlords
I got tipped a couple of days ago about an impending storm over a film that was in the works which actually showed Muslims as the bad guys, but which suddenly had its funding pulled. The reader who tipped me claimed, at first, that the funding was yanked when an investment company run by al-Arabiya's Sheikh Waleed al Ibrahim and a Palestinian named Zeid Masri, who has ties to the PLO, became involved.
I didn't run the story, because in my mind it really wasn't notable: when was the last time there was a Hollywood movie where Muslims were the bad guys? Because if there's anything Hollywood has taught me, it's that Muslim terrorists are always just the low-level players. The real enemy of liberty are the greedy capitalists. Oh, and the government. Which uses Muslim terrorists for its own diabolical plans to suppress civil liberties.....
So, let me just say that I'm not convinced that al Ibrahim and Masri's connection to the movie is the key. Hollywood is just too full of all sorts of idiots who want to be "taken seriously". Which means adopting a "more sophisticated" narrative than one in which Osama bin Laden is the bad guy, terrorists are Muslim, and America is good.
Not convinced, but I wouldn't be shocked if a couple of rich Muslims put their thumbs down and made the project go away either.
The timing of the money for the project being pulled certainly is suspicious. The project was cancelled shortly after al Ibrahim and Masri joined the investment company. But timing is really never enough, is it?
So, I asked the tipster, who seems to have a connection to some of the players in the film, if there was anything more? She e-mailed back this morning with this Venture Beat article, which notes that the film's script-writer was told that it was the investors who were responsible for the decision. Which still doesn't tell us why, but does raise, I think, more legitimate suspicions:
But [Jason] Ressler wrote an international secret-agent action/love story called “Dove Hunting,†set in the Middle East. He says it included examples of ways that Saudis “influence Western governments by putting their money in the right places and playing both sides of the fence.†Bizarrely, he says, his screenplay came true in this case....
Ressler, who wouldn’t disclose his ethnic background but is nonreligious, says that Gill acknowledged to him by email that he couldn’t make the screenplay because of his investors.
Anyway, I for one welcome our new Muslim overlords. Because if this is the extent of their interference, then can anyone point out how this is different than yesterday's dhimmis in Hollywood?
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Damn! I would love to see if this kind of a movie would cause rioting/civil unrest among the Muslim population here like other forms of media have in other countries. C'mon Muslims! Reaffirm all the stereotypes and assumptions us civilized people have about you savages!
Posted by: JacksSmirkingRevenge at July 13, 2007 01:13 PM (ptO0I)
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Does this mean the last sterotype that ran Hollywood has lost its influence ? Since the muslims are well known as opponents of all that is liberal and fun does this mean that there will be a return to conservative values ? No nudity,no alcohol, things like that ?
Posted by: John Ryan at July 13, 2007 01:25 PM (TcoRJ)
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no not really. liberals have a mental block that prevents them from understanding the implications of such actions. top that with the decadence of the ruling elite in the middle east and you've got a match made in he... cough cough... well it's not from above.
Posted by: Kamchatka Bear at July 13, 2007 02:08 PM (gtZwa)
CAIR's Hypocrisy
I have no doubt that since 9/11, Muslims in America have been looked at with closer scrutiny and suspicion. I also have no doubt that this makes Muslims uncomfortable, conflicted, and suspicious. But if the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) is so pro-America, then why are they not encouraging Arabic and Pashtun speaking Muslims to join the military, FBI, and CIA? Why is it that we still have thousands of intelligence, translation, and liaison positions open for lack of Arabic speakers?
During WWII the Japanese were put under a level of scrutiny and suspicion virtually unimaginable today. Movies such as The Siege portray a rather unrealistic slippery slope of Arabs being rounded up due to fears of terrorism, but we should never forget that the Japanese were actually rounded up and put into concentration camps on U.S. soil.
Yet, despite the real abuses they suffered at the hands of the U.S. government, Japanese Americans volunteered in record numbers and served with distinction above and beyond the call of duty. The all-Japanese 442nd Regimental Combat Team and 100th Infantry Battalion were some of the most highly decorated units during the War.
And having fought valiantly for our country, Americans looked back with shame on how they treated the Japanese. Their fears about them really were unfounded. The Japanese proved this with their lost lives.
Where is the Arab 442nd today? Where is the Paksitani 100th? If CAIR really was interested in bettering the relations of Muslims with non-Muslim Americans, then they would be out in the community demanding more volunteers to serve our nation. Instead they seethe and whine over every abuse, real or imagined.
And the vast majority of even the real abuses suffered by Muslim-Americans amount to no more than what all of us were exposed to on the playground. Ignorant words that hurt, exclusion, the look that says your not welcome, etc. If CAIR is right, than apparently my mother was wrong about words vs. sticks and stones.
Whining has become America's national pastime, though. So, perhaps, by being a bunch of whiners about their hurt little feelings, CAIR is just trying to show how American their members are?
Anyway, here's the story that started this rant. Joel Mowbray in WaTimes:
CAIR has mastered the art of appearing to oppose terrorism, while at the same time leading the charge against those who seek to thwart it....
CAIR has, in fact, condemned what it considers to be extremism and terrorism — when targeted at Muslims. If a Muslim is the victim of a possible hate crime or has been subjected to a religious slur, CAIR is there. There is nothing wrong with that, of course. And the group is well within its rights when it routinely rails against the United States and Israel.
What CAIR does not do, though, is denounce Islamic fundamentalists who promote a paranoid worldview in which America and Israel are the enemies of Islam, achieved by manufacturing mythical massacres that whip their followers into a lather.
During Israel's war last summer with Hezbollah terrorists, CAIR was firmly on the side of the fundamentalist Islamic propagandists. The organization issued at least eight condemnations of America and the Jewish state — but not one against Hezbollah.
Never in its history has CAIR specifically condemned Hamas or Hezbollah by name.
Ending Religious Worker Visas for Islamic Extremists
Often bigots in our comments section (temporarily down, I'm afraid) call for the expulsion of all Muslims from the U.S. and Britain. When the sane among us tell them to go to hell, one of the most common replies is: okay, if deporting them all isn't the answer, than what is?
Reading this Telegraph piece which claims that only 8% of U.K. imams were born in Britain reminded me of a proposal I made some time ago: End asylum for Islamist exiles and make "religious worker" visas predicated on reciprocity of host nations
I think it's time to resurrect that proposal. Read it below.
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The problem, Rusty, is that they can say, "OK, your preachers can set up shop in our country, no strings."
About a month later, the preacher and his congregation are found with their heads cut off. The Islamic government is shocked! shocked I say! and promises to track down the perps. Hold your breath on that one. We are dealing with a religion that embraces lying to infidels as a core belief. This means that the only way to deal with them is to put a boot on their necks and keep it there.
Posted by: SDN at July 06, 2007 05:04 PM (a7n4N)
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Being one of the BIGOTS who wish to deport all muslims from my country I will say you are too simple minded to see the truth of Islam. While muslim huggers (like you) call others bigots you show your BIGOTRY against Mexicans who wish to come here to work. Brainwashed fool. Just hope they get you and yours before me and mine. OUTLAW ISLAM.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 06, 2007 05:09 PM (DYtTi)
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Oh yea! You're proposal shows your lack of common sense.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 06, 2007 05:13 PM (DYtTi)
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Those who wish to deport muslims from this nation are called bigots. Those who wish to keep them shall now be referred to as idiots.
Henceforth: A bigot is one who wishes to outlaw islam in America. An idiot is one who wishes to keep muslim practicing in America.
Time will show Bigots to be far wiser than idiots.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 06, 2007 05:25 PM (DYtTi)
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Just finished listening to Michelle on Fox news. She interviewed writer Cal Thomas. Turns out if he commented on this blog he would be a bigot as he claims (in short) you can't tell muslim extremist from a (so called) moderate muslim. Therefore for the good of the country no muslims is the best policy. Countries controlled by Shiria law don't allow Christian Churches or Jewish places of worship in their countries. Please don't come with old bullshit "we are better". It's silly. Mr. Thomas used the cancer analogy. Islamic extremist are fast growing cancer. Moderate muslims are the slow growing kind. Same result in the end. OUTLAW ISLAM.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 06, 2007 08:58 PM (qrMDB)
I doubt that Greyrooster has a wife, at least one who loves him, given that he wastes his time posting endlessly stupid messages at the Jawa comments. Does he think anyone even reads his shit?
Posted by: Darth Vag at July 07, 2007 02:15 AM (b0FZu)
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good one ive been saying the same for the last few years btw did you catch king of the hill last week where rusty shackleford was chasing down dale gribble for stealing his identity
Posted by: jimmytheclaw at July 07, 2007 06:31 AM (K+le+)
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Darth Fag: Just think according to the feds there is a 70% chance that you are a bastard. If you think my posts are stupid. Try reading your own. Sambo.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 07, 2007 09:28 PM (5hpD3)
Posted by: mrclark at June 28, 2007 09:06 AM (prBD9)
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There are two other females who do not have on headgear...so it seems Karen decided to put on the headgear voluntarily, which would piss me off even moreso....spineless is all I can say in this day and age of islamic terrorists wanting the West to bow down to their demands.
Posted by: steve at June 28, 2007 09:52 AM (k6XxH)
I'm not a Jew, but I wear a yamulke at a synagogue when Jewish friends have significant events there. I follow the customs of my Hindu neighbors at their temple, too.
Karen Hughes and the rest were showing good manners, nothing more, in this context -- as, incidentally, did Nancy Pelosi in the infamous photo from her Syria trip (which she should not have made), because she was entering a historic mosque.
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No one has asked the real question yet - what business do government officials have being there in the first place? Seems to me like they're trying to send a subtle message to us while placating their masters. Our government is in open treason against We the People and should be treated as the enemy it is. This is our country, not the government's, and they are supposed to work for us, not for foreign princes. They should all be arrested, tried, and executed for treason.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 28, 2007 12:07 PM (jQsc/)
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I was amused by the guy in the front row. He's definitely not the alpha male type. I would guess zeta male. And I'll bet he has man-boobs.
Posted by: Gary at June 28, 2007 03:22 PM (NvC+m)
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IP: WHy do government officials go to the dedication of new churches, openings of shopping malls, and other public events? Because that is where there are people!
Do you urge that they stay away from these other events as well?
Posted by: Barry at June 28, 2007 09:31 PM (KRpJM)
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There is no reason for government officials to be going to a muslim rededications ceremony in the first place. What the fuck. 1st dress like them. What next? Act like them? Muslims are the enemy and our government is FUCKING NUTS.
Posted by: Greyrooster at June 28, 2007 10:57 PM (jYwnY)
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Ah hell, I'm not even going to try to explain why this is so screwed
up. Our government is nothing but a bunch of treasonous whores who have
sold us out, and are trying to secure a place for themselves as
servants for their new masters, because they know they don't have the
balls to win this fight, and it's just politically easier to surrender,
anyway, since most Americans are too stupid, lazy, and apathetic to
even know or care what's going on. If this country is going to be
saved, it will be done by those very few of us who have the will to
fight, even if we have to fight against our own government, which seems
likely at this point.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 29, 2007 08:48 AM (4gW1b)
All Carter did was point out some rather obvious pro-Israeli biases in our media and politics and next thing you know he's being equated with Charles Manson.
So are all Palestinians subhumans - to be exterminated with extreme prejudice in the eyes of most of you here?
>> All Carter did was point out some rather obvious pro-Israeli biases in our media and politics
and utilized political guilt feelings of Americans after Vietnam war to come into power, then during his rule transfered Arab Nazis to Afghanistan using "Left wing Arab biased friendship", then provided unlimited resources to Arab Nazis to grow up as a global threat against whole world, then closed his eyes to the growing threat.
Then he was one of the main figure to install khomeini in Iran, thanks to his policies to support Saint like khomeini (As per carters word ) converted Iran into a country dedicated bring the whole mankind to the end of the days... (either by Jihad or nukes..)
Recently Carter is busy in supporting Anti-Democratic communist in south Asia (check carter maoist support), and in supporting **so called democratically elected Hamas in Middle east.
I hope, it is more then enough i documented in one post to brush up your Carter historical facts... In short, After WW1 in global depression Germans made a decision to choose Hitler as kaiser/chancellor/main leader... that had decided the fate of not only Germany but of whole Europe...
Carters decision, as well as left wing support to radical Islam are also leading us to the same direction, this is well understood from what Carter, as well as left wing did till now, and which way things had headed.
**-> arab Nazi connection can be explored by searching "amin al husseini + nazis" or "Hassan al Banna + Nazis"... Carter administration had used Hassan al Banna + Nazis connection, and Hamas is pali extension of Muslim Brotherhood.
Posted by: Puneet Madaan at June 22, 2007 08:47 PM (sShak)
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Bo: Yes. Paleos are subhuman. Haven't you been watching the news? Dork!
Posted by: greyrooster at June 22, 2007 08:59 PM (k0DWG)
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From Poe-ass BO-- "So are all Palestinians subhumans - to be exterminated with extreme prejudice in the eyes of most of you here?
Is this a Nazi club"?
Dear BO (You stupid Bitch)... No, not even. But I do love to watch the "Idiots of Gaza"... Fatah VS Hamas... fu*k each other up in the name of Yo Momma ALLAH!
FU*K YEAH!!!
Posted by: JihadGene at June 22, 2007 09:31 PM (l8Hl5)
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This appears to be stand tall night. We will continue this fight. The friggin democrat congress is winning the next election for us. If Bush ran against congress he would win.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 22, 2007 09:47 PM (k0DWG)
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Could someone please bring a little box upon which Jimmie can stand as his Palestinian friends place him on the cross?
Who's got some nails, and that sack cloth he so disparately wants to wear?
Here's a picture of his brother Billy drinkin' some Billy Beer at the old family gas station...if I can just find it!
Jimmie will carry your pain...for free too!
Posted by: RJ at June 23, 2007 07:47 AM (yyxO/)
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Carter must be wearing the hood muslims thinks he is such a dweeb
Posted by: sandpiper at June 24, 2007 10:47 AM (h6CK1)
Yes, Democratic Presidential Candidate Met With al Qaeda Supporter
As a followup to Good Lt.'s post below, who is it that Democratic candidate for President and Huffington Post blogger Dal LaMagna met with in Amman, Jordan? Trying to refute the accusation that he had met with a "terrorist", LaMagna tries to distinguish between "legitimate resistance" and "terrorists", a distinction he seems to think is real. Of course, whether it's the "resistance" killing you or a "terrorist" killing you seems rather a moot point if you're a U.S. soldier in Iraq.
I don't know how much play this got in the blogosphere when LaMagna first wrote his story since I was away on business. And, to be honest, his bid for the Presidency is about five times less serious than Dennis Kucinech's. But he is a HuffPo blogger, and that means he represents at least some portion of the Leftosphere.
So, who was this mysterious figure Dal LaMagna met with? None other than the head of the Association of Muslim Scholars of Iraq, Sheikh Hareth al-Dhari. I knew I had heard that name somewhere, so I did a quick search of the vast Jawa Report archives and found this call from a-Dhari for bin Laden to 'intervene' in Iraq:
But throughout Anbar, the ties are still strong to Al Qaeda. Sheikh Hareth al-Dhari, who hails from one of Anbar's most prestigious tribes and heads the antigovernment Association of Muslim Scholars of Iraq, called on Osama bin Laden to intervene to stop the rift between Al Qaeda in Iraq and the local insurgency.
He described men like Abu Risha [ed. note: a leader of the anti-al Qaeda Sunni forces in Anbar] as "agents and conduits of the [US] occupation."
"I call on Sheikh Osama bin Laden in the name of the Islam for which he fights to intervene and to instruct Al Qaeda to adhere to the rules of proper jihad and to respect the people who had previously opened their arms to Al Qaeda," Mr. Dhari said in an interview Sunday with Bahrain's Akhbar al-Khaleej newspaper. Dhari's remarks indicated that the US and Iraqis still have much work ahead to fully dislodge Al Qaeda from all the Anbar tribes.
"If he [bin Laden] has no influence over Al Qaeda in Iraq, then he must say it so that we can decide how to deal with those who have hurt our main cause, which is liberating Iraq," he said
So, did La Magna know he was meeting with a pro-al Qaeda 'Sheikh' or, like most peace activists, is he just a fool and a dupe ready to accept any and every lie told to him by people who's real goal is not to "end the occupation" but share Osama bin Laden's dream of a global Caliphate and the implementation of sharia law?
Of course, people like Harith al-Dhari can openly support Osama bin Laden and still claim to be against terrorism. How so? Simple, the pretend [or actually believe] that Osama bin Laden was not responsible for 9/11 and that any and all acts of "terrorism" were really committed by their enemies or by the you-know-who -- the Jews. For instance, al-Dhari blames the murder of Atwar Bahjat on the Shia government, when all reports to the contrary indicate it was his own 'resistance fighters' who murdered the female Al-Arabiya TV reporter.
Does LaMagna also know the reason why he had to meet with al-Dhari in Jordan, and not Iraq? It's because he has a warrant out for his arrest in Iraq for.....drumroll please...inciting terrorism:
Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani, a Shiite, announced on state television Harith al-Dhari was wanted for inciting terrorism and violence among the Iraqi people.
Off and on he supports then condemns al Qaeda. Usually saving his condemnations for the Western press and dupes like LaMagna and those in the West eager to hear that the 'resistance' just wants peace and as soon as the U.S. leaves everything will be peachy keen. But to the Arabic press:
He also classifies the Mujahideen al-Shura Council, an umbrella group of al-Qaeda affiliated groups, as part of the legitimate resistance. [source: Jamestown Foundation]
FYI--The Mujahidin Shura Council [MSC]is the old name for what is now called The Islamic State in Iraq. The MSC was started by none other than Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al Qaeda in Iraq leader personally responsible for the beheading murders of so many civilian hostages.
Here is an 'act of legitimate resistance' by the Islamic State of Iraq: [Warning: Graphic Images Below]
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Posted by: greyrooster at June 19, 2007 03:32 PM (cuZRd)
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You are a little out of date here Rusty. Al Dari is our FRIEND now.
He is now receiving arms from the USA to fight al Queda. The Sunnis (who of course were the former "insurgents") are now our allies in fighting the bad shia whom we liberated from the Sunnis. The Shia are bad because Iran supports them. I know it sounds complicated but you just have to remember all sunnis goood all shia bad. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1620607,00.html
And Rooster it is not the 'damn Democrats" that are giving the Sunnis these arms although opf course it is easier just to blame them for everything.
Posted by: John Ryan at June 20, 2007 11:28 AM (TcoRJ)
Steal Michael Moore's Video
Michael Moore thinks it's okay for you to steal his new film. Who are we to go against Michael Moore? The man is a genius, right?
“The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not ‘insurgents’ or ‘terrorists’ or ‘The Enemy.’ They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow—and they will win.†- Michael Moore, 4/14/2004
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Muslims Fleeing CAIR in Droves
This may be the best news of the week. Audrey Hudson at The Washington Times is reporting that membership in the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has declined by more that 90% since 9/11. Apparently the Washington Times is just giving us a teaser for a lengthier article to follow in tomorrow's dead tree edition. But check this out:
According to tax documents obtained by The Times, the number of reported members spiraled down from more than 29,000 in 2000 to less than 1,700 in 2006, a loss of membership that caused the Muslim rights group's annual income from dues to drop from $732,765 in 2000, when yearly dues cost $25, to $58,750 last year, when the group charged $35.
The organization instead is relying on about two dozen individual donors a year to contribute the majority of the money for CAIR's budget, which reached nearly $3 million last year.
CAIR only has about 1,700 dues paying member and they want you to believe that they speak for Muslim Americans? My estimation of the vast majority of Muslims that I know is that they would never have anything to do with an organization as vile as CAIR. Now I know I was right.
It kind of makes you wonder why the MSM takes CAIR seriously? Keep an eye out for tomorrow's report. Note to Professor Chaos: buy Washington Times tomorrow.
PS--So, who are these two dozen mysterious donors that keep CAIR afloat?
Posted by: greyrooster at June 11, 2007 04:29 PM (GdeYP)
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I just wonder whether this is a result of "not speaking for Muslims" or a case of growing apathy. Hate to use this as a comparison, but AmSpec soared during the period of Clinton-gates, and has been dwindling in subscribers since. If, for instance, Muslims are beginning to sense the end of the GWOT, there's less incentive to remain active in a group if its prominence has risen as a direct result.
Just throwing it out there. There's prolly much more to add to that.
Posted by: cadetwithchips at June 11, 2007 04:45 PM (FPAKD)
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That's a valid opinion, but to me, it looks more and more like people are beginning to wise up and take more heed of the GWoT, which can only be a good thing.
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at June 11, 2007 04:50 PM (+x54M)
Ya know, this is a situation that's just ripe for the picking. With CAIR's membership so low, I figure we could all institute a hostile take-over.
All we need is enough infidels to join up, pay the dues, then kick the leadership out and run things the way WE say they ought to be run... heh.
What say you? Anyone else up for giving those bastards the old heave-ho? Besides which, if we took over, WE could get all the trade mark rights, copyrights, etc. The mind reels at the potential for much playful mischief and skull-duggery.
Respects,
Posted by: Gwedd at June 11, 2007 05:24 PM (jve12)
Posted by: Professor Chaos at June 11, 2007 06:18 PM (QcT7w)
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Where do I send my $35.00. I want to run for CAIR president. I can help.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 11, 2007 06:23 PM (1ZyKh)
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The Jawa Report easily has more members than CAIR.
Posted by: Fred Fry at June 11, 2007 07:46 PM (Cxqd0)
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I haven't really tracked CAIR's activities very closely, but if they have lately, (last four or five years) become more staunchly pro islamist this could explain why that has occurred. The members that have left CAIR are probably a mixture of those who disagree with their slanted views or those who just don't want to be associated with a group like CAIR now. Either way the remainder are probably even more loony and crazy than normal which could explain why now CAIR is strictly a collection of 7th century retreads.
Posted by: Howie at June 12, 2007 10:58 AM (YHZAl)
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I believe CAIR''s numbers have fallen is the fact that they are being more scrutinized. The jihadi don't want their cover blown and CAIR isn't doing too good right now. I would imagine you will be seeing another group cropping up in support of islam. It would be nice if I am wrong but I don't think so. They do not give up that easily and only find a different route to spead their end goal the caliphate. I have been wondering what is the percentage of Americans that bare arms compared to the others that don't. You know the lefties don't as love everyone is in their main cause. I would truly like to know who will be with me if the time comes. I'm serious and no joke here. I have quit using the shotgun because it blows me on my butt but I can still handle the 357 magnum and the only after effect is ringing in my ears. I truly feel we will have a problem with islam here in the states. What with the center in New York and other training camps on our soil they are preparing for a holocaust and I plan on being one of the survivors. Nuff said
Posted by: allahakchew at June 12, 2007 04:21 PM (m2p07)
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These non-existent membership numbers prove CAIR is entirely a MSM creation. The MSM takes these extremists and holds them out as the voice of American muslims-- and then these same Libturds accuse people like ME of tarnishing the image of muslims. LOL. Welcome to the upside down world of Liberalism.
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I'd like to wake up tommorrow without a C.A.I.R in the world !
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at June 13, 2007 03:56 AM (2OHpj)
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Allahackchew nailed it. Muslims are simply disengaging from that front
in order to find a new way to attack us from behind, which is better
suited to their cowardly nature.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 16, 2007 11:05 AM (e56vj)
NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg Weighs in on Life-Threatening Plots
"There are lots of threats to you in the world. There's the threat of a heart attack for genetic reasons. You can't sit there and worry about everything. Get a life."
- New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, commenting on the news that a skinhead gang was uncovered plotting to set fire to the New York headquarters of the Nation of Islam and the Islamic Thinkers' Society.
UPDATE : Oops! My mistake. Turns out he was commenting on the news that a Muslim group was actively plotting to blow up JFK Airport and kill thousands of New Yorkers. Par for the course. Not newsworthy. My apologies.
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Oh yes mikie blooming idiot blomburg who prefers to blame the NRA and neighboring states for the crime rate and who bullies gun shops with frivolous lawsuits this idiot needs to get voted off the island
Posted by: sandpiper at June 06, 2007 10:28 AM (hm7/x)
Brit Academics Vow to Give Sanctuary to Extremists...
...And the University and College Union has voted unanimously to oppose the UK government's request that professors actually do their civic duty by reporting violent Islamist extremists among the student body. Instead, they choose to mischaracterize it as a "witch hunt," and plan to boycott the effort.
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I wish these academics/yacademics/slacademics/ejacademics - whatever you want to call them - would stop trying to include us in their suicide plans.
Posted by: Hucbald at May 30, 2007 12:09 PM (rPAI7)
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Or wacademics, who think getting a Phd in and learning everything there is to know about the mating habits of the giant gippsland earthworm makes them qualified about anything else on the friggin planet. They are the most stupid and uninformed people on earth when it comes to anything else outside their extremely narrow fields of stupid.
Probibly a bunch of collage educated(brainwashed)broup of those liberal young zombies comming from such wretched sewers like U.C. BERKELEY or from HANOI ON THE BAY SAN FRANCISCO
Posted by: sandpiper at May 30, 2007 10:31 AM (qMAo+)
Posted by: Hucbald at May 21, 2007 10:34 PM (XoJMC)
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Hucbald: Nukes are not cool at this time. The muslims may not care about our innocent children but we haven't lowered ourselves to that standand. Everyone must have forgotten about Japan. If I remember all the shit stopped. Naw. We shouldn't think that way. At least not until another 9/11. America has decided to always let the other guy hit first. Even when you know damn good and well he's going to hit. Stupid. But that's the way it is.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 22, 2007 09:35 PM (xGret)
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Spot on!
Don't be too open-minded or your brains might fall out!
Posted by: busywwolf at May 22, 2007 09:51 PM (J+uFC)
Are they submitting too?
