August 10, 2006
'Mass Murder on an Unimaginable Scale'
Here's a followup to the previous report. Scotland Yard holds brief press conference.
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From Guardian.co.uk:
Paul Stephenson, the deputy commissioner of the Metropolitan police, said he was confident that a plan "intended to be mass murder on an unimaginable scale" had been thwarted.Severe travel disruptions are being experienced. British Airways, Air France, KLM, Alitalia, Iberia, and El Al have canceled all flights to Britain until further notice.Unconfirmed reports suggested between three and 10 flights could have been targeted.
Police said 21 people had been arrested in London, the Thames Valley and Birmingham. Sources said those arrested were British-born and were held as part of an operation, involving the security services, that has been ongoing covertly for several months. [Note: SkyNews interviewee said the terrorists were of Pakistani origin.]
At 2am, the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre raised the UK terror alert from severe to critical - its highest level - for the first time. The Home Office website defines that as meaning an attack is expected "imminently."
Unnamed U.S. intelligence official says there is a serious al-Qaeda connection with the plot. U.S. Homeland Security to hold press conference at 0800 EDT.
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Somehow I am not surprised at all about what is happening in London right now.
It's time the western world stands together and declares war to terrorism. They declared war on us a long time ago!
It's time the western world stands together and declares war to terrorism. They declared war on us a long time ago!
Posted by: shimshon at August 10, 2006 06:24 AM (e0xJs)
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These are so-called "homegrown" British Muslims.What does that mean? It means that these are people, and i use the term loosely, that were allowed to leave the third-world hellhole they were born in for a better life in the West. There's a saying in the US, "You can take the boy out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the boy" Here, the phrase has good connotations, it means that rural people who move to the cities still maintain the good manners and behavior expected where they grew up. In this case, it's something quite different.It is yet more proof that muslims are incapable of civilized behavior. We allow them to enter out nations, and this in how they repay our generosity. I think back to Spain in 1614, and realize that this needs to be repeated in every nation that wishes to survive today.
Posted by: Realist Citizen at August 10, 2006 06:59 AM (fqvpi)
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These are so-called "homegrown" British Muslims.What does that mean? It means that these are people, and i use the term loosely, that were allowed to leave the third-world hellhole they were born in for a better life in the West. There's a saying in the US, "You can take the boy out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the boy" Here, the phrase has good connotations, it means that rural people who move to the cities still maintain the good manners and behavior expected where they grew up. In this case, it's something quite different.It is yet more proof that muslims are incapable of civilized behavior. We allow them to enter out nations, and this in how they repay our generosity. I think back to Spain in 1614, and realize that this needs to be repeated in every nation that wishes to survive today.
Posted by: Realist Citizen at August 10, 2006 06:59 AM (fqvpi)
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Can not be true! My President has told us all hundreds of times the last 4 years that Islam is the "Religion of Peace". The Brits are making this up to make Bush look dumb! Mass murder by the ROP, year right and Bush is a conservative! I bet Reuters had a hand in this!
Posted by: Rod Stanton at August 10, 2006 07:18 AM (A2qI9)
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We all knew they were trying and will continue to try to kill us. There are 60 million UK citizens, the muslims number around 1.5 million. So for the safety of the huge majority isnt it time for internment and repatriation and the abolishment of the moon god cult. As long as we allow them to live here or worship the moon god we are gonna have to face the threat of terrorism, so who benefits from them being allowed to stay? As far as I can see only the muslims benefit, one of the UK muslims main gripes is that they are discriminated against and they have a big unemployment problem, my solution to that is F#ck off back to wherever you came from and get a job there, after all as you cant get a job and you dislike seeing page3 of the Sun and you want sharia law then what is the point in staying here. Rather than do the right thing and moving to a country where there is sharia and they wont be discriminated against when looking for work they decide to terrorize us into becoming more of a dhmmi nation than we already are. I think its time to outlaw Islam, its such an alien ideology, we have buddhists, hindus, hare krishnas, all sorts of mislead people but the only group that wants to kill us are the moon god firm.
I just dont know what its gonna take to make the nation demand they are interned or repatriated, we are at war with them but 90 percent of the British nation are leftie vegetarians and dont have the belly for the strong moves that now should be taken. I am sickened by whats going on.
I just dont know what its gonna take to make the nation demand they are interned or repatriated, we are at war with them but 90 percent of the British nation are leftie vegetarians and dont have the belly for the strong moves that now should be taken. I am sickened by whats going on.
Posted by: Dave Clarke at August 10, 2006 08:08 AM (P5Lac)
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For many this is just a reminder that we are in a full scale war. I understand the temptation to want to live in Mayberry, but people have to remain on war footing until this is over. Period.
Bravo Zulu Scotland Yard.
Bravo Zulu Scotland Yard.
Posted by: Jeremy at August 10, 2006 08:30 AM (zXPOg)
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D.C. wrote:"We all knew they were trying and will continue to try to kill us... So for the safety of the huge majority isnt it time for internment and repatriation and the abolishment of the moon god cult...and you want sharia law then what is the point in staying here... we have buddhists, hindus, hare krishnas, all sorts of mislead people but the only group that wants to kill us are the moon god firm."
The idea of repatriation may be little OTT if not politically not correct thing to do.
I wonder if you know any more about the moon god idea. I don't remember where I heard about it first but it was said that the moon god was one of many worshipped in the middle east before mohammad introduced islam. I would be interested to know what you know about that. Certainly it is a cult of death and the worship of death on a mass scale. It is basically founded on their hate for Jews and christians. I certainly agree with the idea of practicing sharia somewhereelse. And if you hate the west so much, why go there in the first place. It is not as if these people are jobless, last year's bombers came from a suburban, middle-class families. One of the homes being searched today is also in suburban neighbourhood.
The idea of repatriation may be little OTT if not politically not correct thing to do.
I wonder if you know any more about the moon god idea. I don't remember where I heard about it first but it was said that the moon god was one of many worshipped in the middle east before mohammad introduced islam. I would be interested to know what you know about that. Certainly it is a cult of death and the worship of death on a mass scale. It is basically founded on their hate for Jews and christians. I certainly agree with the idea of practicing sharia somewhereelse. And if you hate the west so much, why go there in the first place. It is not as if these people are jobless, last year's bombers came from a suburban, middle-class families. One of the homes being searched today is also in suburban neighbourhood.
Posted by: tom at August 10, 2006 08:43 AM (hRELA)
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Were they Pakistani blond, blue-eyed 12 year old girls and grannies by any chance? Just wondering, cause that's who gets searched at airports.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at August 10, 2006 08:47 AM (8e/V4)
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When are the leaders of the West going to wake up and realize that the threat is WITHIN their own countries. They keep on with their appeasement policies and "tolerance" vis a vis the fundamentalists. Look at the Wahhabis spending their monies on Mosques, look at the Shiites... Time to engage these people and if Saudi Arabia or Iran are unhappy, then tough luck..... WAKE UP GUYS
Posted by: IMB at August 10, 2006 09:00 AM (8TmK3)
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I was going to say something but nobody says it better than IM!
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 10, 2006 09:05 AM (gLMre)
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Is this what Amhadinejad was waiting for on August 22?
Posted by: xdiesp at August 10, 2006 09:11 AM (0aOgV)
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Hey you guys. I wouldn't be too worried, probably just another inside job by the Bush Administration.
Posted by: Ken at August 10, 2006 09:11 AM (mJD6w)
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another wake up call for the brits. how many more before they clean house and deportation starts.
Hat tip to the best law enforcement/investigation agency in the world for uncovering this.
Hat tip to the best law enforcement/investigation agency in the world for uncovering this.
Posted by: rob at August 10, 2006 09:20 AM (jaQRE)
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I am going to wait before I try to form my opinion on whether Iran has anything to do with this. Everything I read seems to indicate AQ and Iran are not paired up. This seems odd since their goals appear to parallel. However, if the stuff I have read is correct, there are some fundamental differences keeping or at least have kept AQ and Iran form joing forces.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 09:55 AM (7teJ9)
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Again, Hitler had the right idea but the wrong people. Internment and repatriation are not the answer. A final solution is called for against the moon god cult.
Again, Hitler had the right idea but the wrong people. Internment and repatriation are not the answer. A final solution is called for against the moon god cult.
Posted by: Slice at August 10, 2006 09:57 AM (ZSDaZ)
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This might be an irrelevant comment, but I found a silly person on Alternet who shows how naive some liberals can be about Islamism:
"Regarding Islam, it is a beautiful religion. It is a culture, and a way of life, which you seem to know nothing about. Islamists are not senseless murderers. Islamists have a vastly different way of life than Westerners, but they are people with the same needs, wants, desires, and dreams as us. Islamists are respectful devout people who love their families, who pray, and who work, and take care of their poor. They live, dress, talk, and do many things differently than us but this does not begin to make them the people you have portrayed which is nothing but a false sterotype based on ignorance. It is galling to hear this repetitious propaganda about Islamists from people who know nothing. Murderers slit throats. Murderers can be of any race, any religion, any sex, any walk of life, and live in any time in history. If some Christians go astray, and God forbid, murder people, we don't then label all Christians "murderers" do we? Wake up!"
"Regarding Islam, it is a beautiful religion. It is a culture, and a way of life, which you seem to know nothing about. Islamists are not senseless murderers. Islamists have a vastly different way of life than Westerners, but they are people with the same needs, wants, desires, and dreams as us. Islamists are respectful devout people who love their families, who pray, and who work, and take care of their poor. They live, dress, talk, and do many things differently than us but this does not begin to make them the people you have portrayed which is nothing but a false sterotype based on ignorance. It is galling to hear this repetitious propaganda about Islamists from people who know nothing. Murderers slit throats. Murderers can be of any race, any religion, any sex, any walk of life, and live in any time in history. If some Christians go astray, and God forbid, murder people, we don't then label all Christians "murderers" do we? Wake up!"
Posted by: Claudius at August 10, 2006 10:37 AM (535Bf)
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Thanks Larry; I'll take it from here.
What is happening here is the expression of hate. That may sound obvious, but I think most people don't fully understand the concept of hate, because most civilized people don't truly have the capacity to hate. Everyone understands dislike, or disagree, but we have outlawed hate in the West, and so as a society we don't comprehend our enemies, their motivations, or desires.
Hatred is the boundless loathing of one's enemies; so complete that it gives one pleasure to envision the horrible death of the enemy, and causes one to dwell on nothing but their suffering and destruction. Muslims hate us like that. They have no other motivations than the destruction of our civilization and our enslavement or death. Why? Because the only way they can feel good about themselves is in the absence of anyone who is better off to compare themselves to. In us, they see their own abject failure as a society; they see their inability to extablish a true civilization; they see what they cannot be, and so they hate us. Because they hate us, they want to destroy us, so they can feel better about themselves. They are losers, and are lashing out the only way they can, and if we don't stop them, they will destroy all of civilization. There is only one option in dealing with them.
What is happening here is the expression of hate. That may sound obvious, but I think most people don't fully understand the concept of hate, because most civilized people don't truly have the capacity to hate. Everyone understands dislike, or disagree, but we have outlawed hate in the West, and so as a society we don't comprehend our enemies, their motivations, or desires.
Hatred is the boundless loathing of one's enemies; so complete that it gives one pleasure to envision the horrible death of the enemy, and causes one to dwell on nothing but their suffering and destruction. Muslims hate us like that. They have no other motivations than the destruction of our civilization and our enslavement or death. Why? Because the only way they can feel good about themselves is in the absence of anyone who is better off to compare themselves to. In us, they see their own abject failure as a society; they see their inability to extablish a true civilization; they see what they cannot be, and so they hate us. Because they hate us, they want to destroy us, so they can feel better about themselves. They are losers, and are lashing out the only way they can, and if we don't stop them, they will destroy all of civilization. There is only one option in dealing with them.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 10:37 AM (v3I+x)
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So you guys have been right all along, Cmunk's a weak sister. Good thing everybody doesn't have to wait while you form your opinion.
AQ, Hezbians, Iran, jihadis all. Their goals parallel because they're the same goal.
AQ, Hezbians, Iran, jihadis all. Their goals parallel because they're the same goal.
Posted by: haywood jablowmi at August 10, 2006 10:44 AM (VUmVc)
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Was this going to be an 8/11?
Posted by: Fred Fry at August 10, 2006 10:50 AM (JXdhy)
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Looks that way Fred. Anyone want to speculate on what the Egypt 11 were up to?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 10:54 AM (v3I+x)
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Just patient Hayseed. No need to rush to judgement. Obviously you still have not seen my ultra-lame site. BTW I recently read Jimmy Carter got the whole ball rolling in Iran with the Islamic revolution when he pulled support for the Shah. I was around 10 or 11 when that whole thing went down.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 11:15 AM (7teJ9)
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Check out my site dude and I will see what yours looks like. Oh, but that would not be fair, you don't have one even though you could for free.
So have a look at mine, feel free to comment. It is new, and still rather plain. There are many like it but it is mine. Any idea where that came from Hayseed?
So have a look at mine, feel free to comment. It is new, and still rather plain. There are many like it but it is mine. Any idea where that came from Hayseed?
Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 11:23 AM (7teJ9)
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Heh. Desperate for traffic, Cmunk? Maybe you should try porn, since your other content sucks.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 11:38 AM (v3I+x)
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Same manner of content posted here yet you keep coming back.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 11:46 AM (7teJ9)
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Re: winning hearts and minds
This thought keeps coming up.. you cannot change peoples' minds... especially those who have been brought up since birth, for 1400 years - generation after generation, to hate. You cannot win them over in a few short months or years.
muslims do not want peace or to live happily with us.. they want to enslave and kill us. There is no way, NO WAY, we can change their minds. Sure, there may be one or two, but by and large it isnt going to happen.
We keep singing this song, "Wake Up!" but not enough people are hearing it.. or understanding it.
God help us.
This thought keeps coming up.. you cannot change peoples' minds... especially those who have been brought up since birth, for 1400 years - generation after generation, to hate. You cannot win them over in a few short months or years.
muslims do not want peace or to live happily with us.. they want to enslave and kill us. There is no way, NO WAY, we can change their minds. Sure, there may be one or two, but by and large it isnt going to happen.
We keep singing this song, "Wake Up!" but not enough people are hearing it.. or understanding it.
God help us.
Posted by: JeepThang at August 10, 2006 11:48 AM (yZQoS)
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Up yours.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 10, 2006 12:01 PM (NgMv/)
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I love you GR. You bring a smile to my face.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 12:08 PM (7teJ9)
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For God's sake, let's cool the hysteria here and realize there is still a chance for Peace - they were at least not trying to hijack the planes. Don't you war mongers at least have enough humanity to give these fellows some benefit of the doubt??
Posted by: goesh at August 10, 2006 12:16 PM (1w6Ud)
Posted by: haywood jablowmi at August 10, 2006 12:17 PM (VUmVc)
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It is a plot by the MSM to smear Bush by smearing his friends the ROP! More BushHitler propaganda.
Posted by: Jo macDougla at August 10, 2006 12:25 PM (2vpLj)
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Does anyone know what tipped the airport guards off to the liquid thing to begin with? I've read a lot of articles, but none seem to tell how exactly they figured out the liquid bomb thing...and what were they keeping these liquids in??
Posted by: Emma at August 10, 2006 12:39 PM (rjg51)
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Emma, I read the plot was uncovered before anyone ever made it to the airport. They were still in the planning stages. Did someone actually get caught attempting to board a plane?
Kissy kissy hayseed; please watch your language.
Kissy kissy hayseed; please watch your language.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 12:52 PM (7teJ9)
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I heard everything this morning on the news except why we keep letting them in this country, and how many terrorist are in Deerborn, MI.?
But hey, let's all try to understand them. Perhaps, holding hands, and singing songs will bring peace in our time.
ROPMA
But hey, let's all try to understand them. Perhaps, holding hands, and singing songs will bring peace in our time.
ROPMA
Posted by: Leatherneck at August 10, 2006 02:33 PM (D2g/j)
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Realist Citizen, Dave Clark, Tom, I M you guys sound soooo racist.
Rob: I agree with you on deportation. It is the only solution. However, if you hang in there long enough you will find many more than just the Brits caught these bastards. I will drink more than a pint for the brave Brits tonight.
Has someone else figured Ccunt out?
Rob: I agree with you on deportation. It is the only solution. However, if you hang in there long enough you will find many more than just the Brits caught these bastards. I will drink more than a pint for the brave Brits tonight.
Has someone else figured Ccunt out?
Posted by: greyrooster at August 10, 2006 02:35 PM (ezAdb)
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Do we have a case for the Patriot Act and NSA wiretapping? Or would it have been better to have 10 airplanes full of innocents blown apart?
Posted by: greyrooster at August 10, 2006 02:39 PM (ezAdb)
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I missed you too you old coonass.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 02:54 PM (7teJ9)
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Oh GR i know there were many sources with this investigation buts its good to see scotland yard have an eye on these scum, before this i thought they didnt have much of a clue.
Suprising to see the suspects are all part of the UKs favourite immigrant group.
Q : What do you call 1 Pakistani on the moon?...
A : Problem...
Q : What do you call 10 Pakis on the moon?...
A : Problem...
Q : What do you call a 100 Pakis on the moon?...
A : Problem...
Q :What do you call all the Pakis on the moon?...
A : ................ Problem Solved!
Suprising to see the suspects are all part of the UKs favourite immigrant group.
Q : What do you call 1 Pakistani on the moon?...
A : Problem...
Q : What do you call 10 Pakis on the moon?...
A : Problem...
Q : What do you call a 100 Pakis on the moon?...
A : Problem...
Q :What do you call all the Pakis on the moon?...
A : ................ Problem Solved!
Posted by: rob at August 10, 2006 04:30 PM (QpkBe)
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Cmunk, truth be told I come here not for the content, which is about the same as the other hundred or so blogs I read each week, but for the people; specifically JJ, JC, GR, Oyster, et al. But not you.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 06:03 PM (v3I+x)
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No mention maxie?
You just broke my lil' heart!
Its that yankee rebel thing - right? Still can't get over losing?
You just broke my lil' heart!
Its that yankee rebel thing - right? Still can't get over losing?
Posted by: hondo at August 10, 2006 06:55 PM (XrexX)
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Perhaps someone can help me out but, I think that is what Rusty considers "Bad Gay".
Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 09:52 PM (n4VvM)
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Unity starts with U. To win the war, stop private wars at home, on the job, with the neighbors.
Honest apology ends friction-starts teamwork
If we all pull together, we all pull through.
Honest apology ends friction-starts teamwork
If we all pull together, we all pull through.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 10, 2006 10:10 PM (n4VvM)
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IM, Did you really have to visit that many blogs only just to come out with a hand full of buddies?
You still get out in real life right ??? Your mama still loves you too?
You still get out in real life right ??? Your mama still loves you too?
Posted by: rob at August 10, 2006 10:35 PM (jaQRE)
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Run along now, Sesame Street is starting ....
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 10, 2006 11:17 PM (gLMre)
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Sorry hondo, I was just going off the top of my head and was trying to finish up three things at once, thus the "et al", which I guess means you and Howie, come to think of it.
Rob, I haven't had a buddy since I was in the Army; I now only have friends, which I choose with great care. I go on quality, not quantity. I don't get out much except to work, patrol the perimeter, buy ammo, and torment the lefturds at the local pub. And I'll thank you not to mention my mother, who passed away last year.
Rob, I haven't had a buddy since I was in the Army; I now only have friends, which I choose with great care. I go on quality, not quantity. I don't get out much except to work, patrol the perimeter, buy ammo, and torment the lefturds at the local pub. And I'll thank you not to mention my mother, who passed away last year.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2006 11:35 PM (v3I+x)
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"Unimaginable scale"? I think we can imagine it over here quite well. If they were fully loaded planes that woudl have been perhaps 2,000 people. . .I think AMericans can comprehend mass murder ona scale larger than that> Perhaps its good that the British get a chance to just imagine it without experiencing it.
Might wake one or two more up.
Might wake one or two more up.
Posted by: RYan at August 11, 2006 06:20 AM (zzP2n)
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It was just a few days ago that I opined that it was going to take another major attack to wake up the sheeple, but since this one didn't go to completion, everyone will soon be lost in the new season of American Idol, and going blissfully on with their McDisney lives.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 11, 2006 10:23 AM (v3I+x)
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Sesame Street is on channel 10 ....
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 11, 2006 10:38 AM (gLMre)
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sorry IM that came accross wrong. i need to read before i post.
Posted by: rob at August 11, 2006 10:48 AM (QpkBe)
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It's cool Rob. I liked you previous post, but instead of Pakistani, you should have used muslim.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 11, 2006 10:53 AM (v3I+x)
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