Did I finally get my fatwa? I feel so...so...
.
A radical Muslim website has issued a fatwa against me, Rusty Shackleford, editor-in-chief of The Jawa Report. How do I know it's a radical Muslim's website? I'd say the name of the blog, Radical Muslim was the giveaway (pop-up alert: link uses anonymouse for your protection---slow, but worth it).
The fatwa claims it wants our website "peacefully shut down and no longer permitted to exist". But by "peacefully", of course, the website means "kill any one who blasphemes".
How do we know this? Because in his explanation of this fatwa against me he quotes the fatwa against NJOW I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY.
That's some peaceful and tolerant religion you got there. Of course, he tries to disclaim this by saying he's just explaining what fatwas are in general. That fatwas are religious edicts, but that only
fatwas call for the death penalty.
What Muslims reading this, though, would understand immediately is that the penalty for blasphemy and slandering Islam under Islamic law is death. And 'radical Muslims', whether they be Shia Khommeinists or Sunni Salafists, would immediately understand this as a call for my death.
In his explanation of why we should be shut down, he makes the claim that this website is "Islamophobic" and that sites like ours 'slander Islam'. A charge which is completely without merit. Unless, of course, by "Islamophobic" the author, Jamaal, thinks that any one who criticizes terrorists, their enablers, or fascists bent on setting up states run by Islamsts such as himself are "Islamophobes". I know dozens and dozens of Muslims who faithfully practice their religion and would agree with nearly 100% of my political agenda. Are these Muslims also 'Islamophobes'?
That agenda consists of nothing more than the promotion of secular liberal values. Values such as freedom of conscience and religion. The freedom to praise or criticize Mohammed, or Buddha, or Jesus, or whoever. The freedom to join or leave any religion. The freedom to read a Koran or burn a Bible.
If that is 'hate' or some kind of 'phobia', then consider me guilty as charged. I hate the Islamist agenda of the Talibanizing of the West. I am, indeed, phobic about Salafist intentions on banning the conversion of Muslims to Hinduism. And I really do think people who support terrorist organizations, such as Hamas or The Islamic State of Iraq (al Qaeda front group) are dangerous.
The specific charge was that we were instrumental in getting the editor of al Jazeerah.info, a professor of sociology at Dalton State College, to stop his publication--an overtly pro-terror website. Alas, this charge is also true. I'm not sure exactly how that is 'Islamophobia', but for the 'radical Muslim' I'm guessing that anyone, like me, who opposes groups listed by the State Department as terrorist organizations, such as The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, is an 'Islamophobe' by definition.
I have to say, though, that I'm a bit flattered by Jamaal's death fatwa. Long time readers know, that its been a goal of mine to get myself one. Not just a death threat from a Muslim, I have loads of those, but an official fatwa. I would consider myself lucky to be included in the ranks of Salman Rushdie, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, or Wafa Sultan--all alleged "blasphemers" and critics of sharia and the traditional understanding of the sunna (example of Muhammed).
I'm also flattered that he decided to name his list of targets "fatwa worthy" in an apparent ironic homage to my own "fatwa worthy" list of links to the right [which seem to be down right now due to a problem at blogrolling]. Of course, irony means something like the use of words other than their literal intentions. So, when I say Charles Johnson's LGF, Ed Morrissey's CQ, Michelle Malkine's Hot Air, or Robert Spencer's Jihad Watch are 'fatwa worthy', I'm being ironic. When he attempts irony, it falls flat. He really means that the links, like mine, are literally 'fatwa worthy'. Nice try. Moron.
Which kind of makes me suspect that Jamal is just some unemployed teenager with too much caffeine in his bloodstream and not enough real spice in his life. Maybe he doesn't have the authority to issue such a fatwa? Bummer.
I also notice that "Radical Muslim" Jamaal claims to live in London. Where the picture above right was taken at rally against some others accused of blaspheming Mohammed. Do we have another Bakri Mohammed follower here? That would explain a lot.
Oh, and last time I checked, death threats were illegal. Even in London.
We're watching you Jamaal. You, and all your 'radical Muslim' friends.
UPDATE: Looks like a lot of others are starting to notice this.
My guess is that Jamaal found all of those sites by clicking through my own 'fatwa worthy' blogroll and then surfing around from there. Jamaal gives no reason why they're on the list, only The Jawa Report is singled out in the post explaining what the 'fatwa worthy' list is. I'm also happy to say that you'll notice one of our cobloggers, Vicki from Not Ready for my Burqua, is also on the list.
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Congratulations, Rusty.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at April 09, 2007 08:47 PM (gDNGv)
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Jamaal...we've got your "fatwa" right HERE buddy...
Oops. Ran out of TP. Anyone got a koran handy?
Posted by: Billy at April 09, 2007 08:58 PM (4gHqM)
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Come and get us, you cowardly bastards--Muhammed cartoons are my kitchen wallpaper! Kids love 'em too.
Posted by: Richard Romano at April 09, 2007 09:06 PM (/2Xsz)
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Well done Rusty. It's an honour to be mentioned alongside that esteemed author Salman Rushdie (whose books are crap but the fact he pissed off muslims makes him great).
Posted by: Jester at April 09, 2007 09:08 PM (NKgmL)
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Thanks,
Jester--I thought I was the only one who thought Rushdie's books suck? And when I first read Satanic Versus I was so perplexed as to why any one would think it blasphemous. I just thought it was boring.
Posted by: Rusty at April 09, 2007 09:10 PM (JQjhA)
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I too read Satanic Verses (well most of it). Couldn't see much to offend muslims other than the title. Still it became a bestseller thanks to the hate of Islam. Maybe the Jawa report will make you rich now that the muslims have finally mentioned you in dispatches.
Posted by: Jester at April 09, 2007 09:15 PM (NKgmL)
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Man do I ever feel left out. No one has tired harder than I. These assholes choose a wishy washy take a muslim to dinner type over a dedicated muslim hater like me. Unfair. Now I really hate you bastards. Piss on mohammed and the goat he makes love to.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 09, 2007 09:29 PM (Ro9X7)
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Yeah, why can't greyrooster get a fatwa? Dr. Shackleford struts around and doesn't say anything nearly as blasphemous or insulting as greyrooster! Really, what's a guy got to do to get a fatwa around here?
Posted by: wooga at April 09, 2007 09:41 PM (t9sT5)
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I was under the impression that only Muslim clergy could issue a valid fatwa.
Posted by: Kafir at April 09, 2007 09:44 PM (HsmTD)
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I was under the impression that only Muslim clergy could issue a valid fatwa.
Nahhh. I can give you one for $9.95 + jizah tax.
Posted by: Randman at April 09, 2007 09:51 PM (Sal3J)
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Jamaal is a pig-fucker.
Posted by: Nadia Busnez at April 09, 2007 10:00 PM (b0FZu)
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Congrats on your Fatwa.. lol
Posted by: Johnny Utah at April 09, 2007 10:29 PM (CL0Ur)
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Can we get fatwa's too, just by association (posting comments)?
Please?
Posted by: newyank at April 09, 2007 10:30 PM (l1tqC)
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I think muslim clergy donks camels. WELL!
Posted by: greyrooster at April 09, 2007 10:58 PM (Ro9X7)
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Damn.. I didn't make the list. I'll just have to try harder.
Posted by: JeepThang at April 09, 2007 11:54 PM (yZQoS)
Posted by: gerald at April 09, 2007 11:56 PM (h0BrM)
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Comrades,
Oh PLEASE! Please let me have a fatwa too? If I said that Al Sadr was the offspring of a pig and a turd, would that help?
Man, C'Mon! Everyone else is getting a fatwa. I want one too!!!!!!!
Damn
Posted by: Gwedd at April 10, 2007 12:03 AM (pAFVF)
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In defense of Jawa Report...I sent a letter to Jamal. (I felt moody)
Dear Jamal,
Daily, I peruse the
blogs and more often than not, I find that Islam is not the "
Religion
of Peace" it claims to be. A while back I wanted to loop Islam into the
bucket of, "Oh, they're really just good people following their own
interpretation of God and their "godliness" and "godly" adherence to
rules makes them good people, so long as they are not murdering
children, neighbors, and those of other sects not toeing the line of
whatever sect the murderer happens to belong to. So I have done some
reading and discovered a valid point.....
The "
quaran" is
supposed
to be the word of god, Perfect, pure, and without contradiction or
falsehood. I happen to be follower of JC, Jesus is "my daddy" so to
speak. When I believed in ecumenism, I thought it was cool that Islam
recognized Noah, Moses, and Jesus....maybe not as the Son of God, but
only as a prophet. Well, a rose cannot not be a rose right?
If the quaran is perfect, then it can have no imperfection. If Jesus is
not the son of God, then he cannot have claimed that he was the son of
God or else he'd either be a heretic or insane. So if Jesus is not the
son of God, was insane, or a heretic, then how could he have been a
prophet since prophets of the quaran are supposed to be perfect. In the
same readings, I also learned of muhammad porking.....oh, I mean,
having sex with a 9 year old...yah, the girl he married at age 6. I
don't get the pedophilia.
What I did like, though, is what I call the "Jihad Clause" which means,
one can be a dirtbag Muslim their entire lives and might not make it to
heaven unless they kill in the name of muhammad (jihad) and thus are
guaranteed admittance to paradise. That's great! I mean, I LOVE
THAT!!!!!!!! I reckon that would explain why many of the 9-11 hijackers
were visiting titty bars and drinking their asses off before they offed
themselves into the WTC buildings; which raises a question.
Did they make it to paradise? I mean, I know for a fact those flights
had baked potatoes on board. Baked potatoes as we know come with a pork
topping and those haven't been taken off in flight meals. Some people
also had their dogs on board (poor pups) in the holds of the aircraft,
as well as a few Jewish folk as passengers. So when the jet
incinerated, the hijackers "essence" mixed with that of pork, dogs, and
Jews. Something tells me they are in hell, standing in line with Adolf
Hitler waiting for a pork lard coated pineapple to get stuck up their
asses.
Oh by the way. I fly B-52's for the United States of America. I would
like to tell you that I bombed the shit out some of your boys in
Afghanistan and killed about 41 (of what they could count). I would
also like to say, whenever I flew, I blessed the bombs with a mixture
of pork water and Copenhagen dip spit from my flight crew and read
select text from Revelations whilst anointing the bombs. Consequently,
all bombs dropped were blessed in such a manner.
I reckon those poor bastards didn't make paradise either.
Have a nice day.
CLL
Posted by: any-mouse at April 10, 2007 12:03 AM (a122x)
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Kudos Rusty...
Us Jawas have got your back. Sounds like Jamaal has a 'little' problem and likes to compensate with meanie fatwas...
Hey Jamaal...just a tip for you.
You have to come to terms with your sexuality Jamaal...you'll find that many of your 'Brotherhood' are backward thinking closeted repressed homos like you and are in exactly the same spot as you. Hey, you may start a trend.
also...Rusty, has anyone alerted the Godfather of Blog that you've been Fatwaad??
Posted by: mrclark at April 10, 2007 01:19 AM (gmrUH)
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Well, now, Mr. Rusty ...
If we could get them to issue a bizillionty-three fatwas, then fatwas wouldn't be worth a pinch of owl scat, now would they?
I think we should all get busy and send this guy some more candidates.
Posted by: crosspatch at April 10, 2007 01:21 AM (b2S+L)
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I'm SOOOOOOOO JEALOUS! USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 10, 2007 03:13 AM (2OHpj)
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Any-mouse:
You're just trying to get your own fatwa. You're obviously the jealous type. That's ok. I am too, like how I'm jealous of you bombing the ever-loving shit out o' the Mo patrol. Sigh.....
You has arrived, Rusty. You has arrived.....
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 10, 2007 03:41 AM (K/lgF)
Posted by: doriangrey at April 10, 2007 04:40 AM (XvkRd)
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It gets worse!
The site "Radical Muslim" has a banner linking to the "Bring Back the Death Penalty" mob.
In case anyone misses out, the abolition of the death penalty in Britain was one of the great social advances of the 1964 Labour Government. Indeed, it is worth referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_penalty for a check on those 129 nations which have reached a level of civilisation where such penalties are no longer required.
Being in favour of judicial murder means one is opposed to the European Convention on Human Rights (and, therefore, to membership of the European Union).
Dear God! These medieval psychos want to bring us down to the level of China, Iran and Texas!
Posted by: Malcolm Redfellow at April 10, 2007 06:36 AM (flQgv)
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Oh, he IS a busy little b******.
Guess who authored the "Bring Back The UK Death Penalty" opinion on http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/01/15/105334.php ?
Yep. None other than "Jamal". Small world.
It's called "trolling". Shows a pathetic need for attention.
Posted by: Malcolm Redfellow at April 10, 2007 07:05 AM (flQgv)
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HA! Congrats Rusty!
Now for Jammal...with some anglicized phonetic Arabic....if you speak Arabic, Jammal, you filthy goat f*cker…I imagine you don’t...as you probably read your Quran in English, while getting your indoctrination in the rear by your fellow followers and idolaters of Muhammad bid Abdulla al Wahab…you pooft.
I am a Soldier (something you earhabbi will NEVER be) – Military Police (Shorta Askariyya to you) and an Investigator…and while have not had as much fun as our friend Gwedd in bombing your buddies…I have spent 3 tours in Iraq insuring that your kind are either killed in the field like the chelb bin hanzeer that they are or imprisoned and convicted of being morted to the good people of Iraq. ~ I enjoyed every minute of it…nothing I love better than being the demise of an earhabbi like you.
Enta cus uchk-deck….yakhul zub!
See you in hell!
Sayyad al Wahabbiyya.
Posted by: Moriarti the Kaffir at April 10, 2007 07:54 AM (dLFsa)
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How did that happen...who is Malcom Redfellow!!! I posted that one above!!
Posted by: Moriarti the Kaffir at April 10, 2007 07:56 AM (dLFsa)
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Ahhh...nevermind...duh!
Posted by: Moriarti the Kaffir at April 10, 2007 07:56 AM (dLFsa)
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Sigh, always a bridesmaid.........
Posted by: Howie at April 10, 2007 08:31 AM (YHZAl)
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Congrats Rusty! I hearby swear to do my best to get a fatwa of my own to share with others of like minds.
Posted by: allahakchew at April 10, 2007 08:36 AM (BrndJ)
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"The Devil, the proud spirit, cannot endure to be mocked." - St. Thomas More, 16th Century
so he issues fatwas on those who mock him. I'm actually serious. Should you ever be interested, I could present the proof why Mohamed was abused by a demon and not "Michael" during the "revelation".
Anyway keep up the good job!
Posted by: Kamchatka Bear at April 10, 2007 08:50 AM (gtZwa)
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I find the "I blog for human rights" banner on his site the most hilarious thing there XD
Posted by: Haludek at April 10, 2007 08:55 AM (zLbDD)
Posted by: David M at April 10, 2007 09:11 AM (jb28t)
Posted by: Oyster at April 10, 2007 09:12 AM (FFmKq)
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"...Oh by the way. I fly B-52's for the United States of America. I would like to tell you that I bombed the shit out some of your boys in Afghanistan and killed about 41 (of what they could count)..."Any-mouse,
You have my heart-felt gratitude for doing that. And yet, I must confess, I'm envious of you for the same reason :-)
Take good care of yourself Sir.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at April 10, 2007 09:15 AM (j97MF)
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Congratulations Dr. S. :-)
I'm green with envy :-)
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at April 10, 2007 09:17 AM (j97MF)
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Dr. S.,
The fact that the terrorist scum have their panties in a twist over TJR, inspired me to make another small donation to the website at the link you've provided.
And this time I'm not asking for any virgins :-)
I have settled for Ragnar's T&A posts :-)
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at April 10, 2007 09:32 AM (j97MF)
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These medieval psychos want to bring us down to the level of China, Iran and Texas!
Yep...we Texans are not as civilized as you guys who slap murders and child molesters on the wrist and send them back to prey upon society.
Posted by: Randman at April 10, 2007 11:00 AM (Sal3J)
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Yee Ha! With you there, Randman.
After all, in Texas one can spend 22 years on Death Row and still be "not guilty" (Kerry Cook).
Or get topped while probably innocent (Carlos de Luna, Cameron Willingham, Reuben Cantu).
Or even be done in because the jury guesses one might be a "continuing threat to society" (Shakespeare anticipated that one in 1599: see "Julius Caesar", Act 2, scene 1: Brutus on the "serpent's egg".)
And -- here's a good bit -- one's attorney need not stay awake during one's defense (Calvin Burdine).
But, heck, what do I know? My "agenda consists of nothing more than the promotion of secular liberal values. Values such as freedom of conscience and religion. The freedom to praise or criticize Mohammed, or Buddha, or Jesus, or whoever. The freedom to join or leave any religion. The freedom to read a Koran or burn a Bible" [© Dr Shackleford, and beautifully put].
My bottom line:
If people of good will are going to see off the Jamals and all their furry friends, we cannot afford to ignore the beams in our own eyes.
Posted by: Malcolm Redfellow at April 10, 2007 12:16 PM (flQgv)
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The freedom to read a Koran or burn a Bible
Wait Malcolm, if you are in Britain, you have the above rights, but you don't have a right to read the entire Bible aloud. The naughty bits about homosexual being a sin are "illegal."
Bash all you want about the death penalty, but Britain (like all of Europe) is barbaric in its disdain for free speech. Here's a clue: if some speech is not "hateful," there would be no need for laws to protect it. Thus, excluding "hate speech" from your "freedom of speech" reduces your "freedom of speech" to a mere platitude, with no substantive meaning whatsoever. Call me when Britain decides to join the modern era.
Posted by: wooga at April 10, 2007 12:29 PM (t9sT5)
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The beams eminating from islam are dead lights. Do not look into them for if you do, your soul will be lost. If you don't believe me, just ask the turtle.
Posted by: SeeMonk at April 10, 2007 12:46 PM (2HM/d)
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I think of starting a t-shirt business: "Fatwa happens"
Posted by: Kamchatka Bear at April 10, 2007 01:27 PM (gtZwa)
Posted by: greyrooster at April 10, 2007 03:08 PM (2J0r9)
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Muslims do not have to follow fatwas. Just be grateful it wasn't a "hukm", which Muslims are REQUIRED to obey...
Posted by: DJM at April 10, 2007 03:12 PM (qEUo5)
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Rusty, stop struggling to find some hint of relevance in a post-neocon world. It's unseemly, only bringing out the latent (and utterly impotent) militarism in your readers, prompting them to write screamingly funny comments like "The jawas got your back." (I gotta bookmark that one.)
Okay, so some other loser in his pajamas sitting at his computer at his mom's house has said some mean words about you, as you sit in your pajamas at your computer in your mom's house. And this is supposed to have some extra significance? I don't think so.
Posted by: Paul at April 10, 2007 03:19 PM (KBcEa)
Posted by: tbone at April 10, 2007 04:31 PM (HGqHt)
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Paul,
post-neocon world...Oh shit you really are the illuminated one aren’t you, can I sit at your feet and catch all of the sweet wisdom that falls like living water from your lips? The very idea of basking in the glow of your illumination just sends shivers down my spine. Hell I might never even have to think for myself again. I could become just like you a complete and utter fucking imbecile so god damn stupid I would never grasp how hard I was getting fucked up the ass by someone else.
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=16834
Posted by: doriangrey at April 10, 2007 05:04 PM (XvkRd)
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Sorry for raining on your parade of newfound self-importance. Hey, I'm not the one that's particularly illuminated any more than the vast majority of the planet's population. Hell, what do we know?
I'm sure you're right. I'm sure the terrorists have determined that the jawa report provides such razor sharp commentary, always chock full of facts and never just containing empty rhetoric and hollow insults; I can also imagine that they've seen in the fellow Jawas a truly dangerous adversary on the battlefield, since there clearly isn't a chickenhawk among you! That's obviously why they've gone out of their way to issue this fatwa.
Enjoy!
Posted by: Paul at April 10, 2007 06:54 PM (KBcEa)
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Paul,
How many times did some liberal/communist professor have to mind fuck you before that drivel came spurting out of your lips? No in fact you are not particularly illuminated; hell you don’t even qualify as particularly intelligent. If you had even half a god damn clue (which you can purchase for a mere $9.99 at the local clue store) you wouldn’t have opened your
post-neocon paranoid mouth in the first place. But no…You just had to open your vacuous pie hole and spout bullshit you couldn’t support if your fucking worthless life depended on, which it does. And sadly it is the regulars here at Jawa that will step up to the plate and defend your worthless puck ass when the time does come.
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=16834
Posted by: doriangrey at April 10, 2007 09:59 PM (XvkRd)
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Doriangrey, does that reply pass as an intelligent comment where you come from? Does it pass as civil? In fact, have you actually said anything in your previous post, apart from swearing and cursing like an 8-year-old? Back when I was 8, that was what someone did when they didn't have anything intelligent to say. It looks like it still holds true.
And sadly it is the regulars here at Jawa
that will step up to the plate and defend your worthless puck ass when
the time does come.
Well, along with "the jawas got your back," that's the funniest thing I've read all day. Golly, I sure feel secure with you manly men looking after us. Oh-oh!! Look out, it looks like you've run out of Cheetos!! MEDIC!!!!!
Posted by: Paul at April 10, 2007 10:19 PM (KBcEa)
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By the way, Dorian, I at first thought that the MP3 link you've provided to that profoundly mediocre music was intended as some kind of insult. Now that I see you add that link on each post, I'm starting to believe that you are that Kenny G impersonator on the album cover. Between your ability to make a cohesive point, and your ability to make decent music (while ignoring your deplorable style sense), I'd say don't quit your day job.
Posted by: Paul at April 10, 2007 10:24 PM (KBcEa)
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Paul,
You criticized doriangrey for only posting insults. Where have you done anything different?
Perhaps if you actually made a substantive point in a post, someone could actually respond with substance. Wow, what a thought...
Here's a hint, posting inane comments too the effect that "there is at least one chickenhawk here" and "some of your posts are hollow insults" isn't even that brave. At least have the stones to take a real position, like "most of you are chickenhawks." Everybody knows there is one chickenhawk on this board, and it's me. I'm a selfish bastard who is too cowardly to put his butt in combat (that doesn't change the merit of any of my statements, which happen to be largely in line with the vets). Come on, even the resident retard on this board can make a point once in a while.
Posted by: wooga at April 10, 2007 11:38 PM (2YapR)
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BTW Paul, I happen to be a fine physical specimen and have no excuse not to join the military, aside from my career and recreational activities (e.g., banging a hot persian chick). So I'm what you despise most - a true chickenhawk without an excuse.
Posted by: wooga at April 10, 2007 11:41 PM (2YapR)
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<i>Perhaps if you actually made a substantive point in a post, someone
could actually respond with substance. Wow, what a thought...</i>
I've made some very substantive points on this page, all of which elicited reactions that made Doriangrey's decorum look almost regal. But today, my point was minor.
You guys clinging to this recent fatwa as a sign of your significance, and are making bellicose comments as though this fatwa were significant, but from an outside-the-echo-chamber perspective, you guys look beyond ridiculous. I'm sorry if my tongue-in-cheek method of communication confused you.
As for being a chickenhawk, let me just address this illusion of yours:
<i>I'm a selfish bastard who is too cowardly to put his butt in combat
(that doesn't change the merit of any of my statements, which happen to
be largely in line with the vets).</i>
Unfortunately, it does change the merit of your statements, in that it completely undermines your credibility. Keep in mind that a statement's value is derived from the credibility of the person speaking. Because you are an unapologetic hypocrite who is utterly unwilling to match his actions to his beliefs (I mean, this is the defining conflict of our generation, right?? right???), any beliefs you state are meaningless.
If more chickenhawks would come out of the closet (you are by no means the only one here), then we would truly understand the nature of our current war, as reflected by the lack of support it enjoys.
Posted by: Paul at April 11, 2007 12:09 AM (KBcEa)
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Sorry, I meant to say "I've made some very substantive points on this
site."
Posted by: Paul at April 11, 2007 12:09 AM (KBcEa)
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"Okay, so some other loser in his pajamas sitting at his computer at his
mom's house has said some mean words about you, as you sit in your
pajamas at your computer in your mom's house. And this is supposed to
have some extra significance?"
Ah yes. And that was civil? You first come in all arroant
and self-important, insulting the host, using the opportunity to
squeeze in some obligatory "neo-con" reference, then when you get
insults back (which BTW, we're far more entertaining than your dry,
self-aggrandizing drivel) you get all huffy and start with the
"chickenhawk" references. How original!
I find it especially amusing that you would cherrypick Rusty's post,
putting emphasis on the parts that seemed to chafe you, so seriously
that you felt you had to sling insults at him about it. It easy
to come to the conclusion that you had an attitude before you even set
your fingers on the home keys as you completely ignored the most
important and indisputable aspects of the post. I, and many
others here have heard the same crap from those like you far too many
times. It really just gets tiresome.
Posted by: Oyster at April 11, 2007 01:31 PM (FFmKq)
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And that was civil? You first come in all arroant
and self-important, insulting the host, using the opportunity to
squeeze in some obligatory "neo-con" reference, then when you get
insults back (which BTW, we're far more entertaining than your dry,
self-aggrandizing drivel) you get all huffy and start with the
"chickenhawk" references.Mate, I'm not huffy. I made a point, that your feelings of self-importance as evidenced by your reactions to this "fatwa" are absurd. And yes, compared to the many references of getting fucked up the ass (which, given your own level of maturity, you found hilarious), my original comment was very civil. It may have not been utterly respectful, but it was in fact civil. Look it up.
Civil suggests a minimum of observance of social requirements. My post qualified. The posts from your mouth-breathing brethren do not.
I find it especially amusing that you would cherrypick Rusty's post,
putting emphasis on the parts that seemed to chafe you, so seriously
that you felt you had to sling insults at him about it.I found his whole post absurd. No cherrypicking required. And it didn't "chafe" me. I read it and realized you were just begging to be ridiculed, that it even seemed crucial that you receive some much-needed ridicule so that you guys could put your army men away are return to the world of thinking adults. I know that's the last thing you guys want to do, though.
It easy
to come to the conclusion that you had an attitude before you even set
your fingers on the home keys as you completely ignored the most
important and indisputable aspects of the post.Oyster, Rusty's points contained nothing substantive or significant. I hate to break this unfortunate news to you, but I guess that's why I'm here. Just as the Japanese were not about to invade back when my buddies and I were playing army men on the beach when we were 6, an army of Islamic terrorists is not about to go all 9/11 on this pitiful little blog. Sorry.
Sure, I have an attitude. So have you. For example, it won't be long before someone calls me a communist or a faggot for what I've written (in fact, I think it already happened but can't be sure). My attitude is a bit more substantial than that. I see Bush and his enablers (late-maturing GI-Joe fanatics, many of them) as causing more damage to the country and the world than the terrorists could have ever dreamed of. I understand you don't agree with this assessment, and are actively ignoring wide swaths of reality in order to maintain that disagreement. (Enjoy that while it lasts.) But to the vast majority of the planet's inhabitants (no, not just in France but in this country and everywhere else), Bush and you guys
are the enemy, pure and simple. I expect if you were in an email exchange with your mortal enemy, you would be a lot less civil than I have been.
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Paul,
Why should we bother to call you a communist and a faggot when you have done it for us.
My attitude is a bit more substantial than that.
No actually is isn’t, in fact only in your twisted diminutive little pathetic excuse for a mind is it anything even remotely approaching substantive.
Mate, I'm not huffy.
Utter bullshit.....
I made a point,
Again complete and utter bullshit.
my original comment was very civil.
Only in the most legalistic and politically correct of fashions, otherwise it was even more intellectually insulting then anything I could have dreamed of saying.
I hate to break this unfortunate news to you, but I guess that's why I'm here.
Complete bullshit, you are here because deep down in the vacuous vacant cesspool of a pit you claim is your soul you cant stand the idea that anyone else might have a different viewpoint ideology or opinion than yours. You aren’t here to clean up the bullshit, you are just spreading your own favorite flavor of bullshit.
I understand you don't agree with this assessment, and are actively ignoring wide swaths of reality in order to maintain that disagreement.
You really need to put the fucking crack pipe down and back slowly away from it. From the sounds of your drivel you have been sucking the KoS bullshit line so long and hard you not only believe that crap but no longer have the capacity to distinguish reality from the propaganda of the communist liberal left.
I'm starting to believe that you are that Kenny G impersonator on the album cover.
Yes it is, and I put that link on every one of my post because unlike you I am not a coward and I want everyone who reads any of my posts to know exactly who it is that said what I said.
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=16834
Posted by: doriangrey at April 11, 2007 03:25 PM (XvkRd)
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Why should we bother to call you a communist and a faggot when you have done it for us.Nice one, doriangrey. Honestly, I was more expecting "I know you are but what am I," but I guess this comment still fits into your usual custom of intelligence and maturity.
you are here because deep down in the vacuous vacant cesspool of a pit
you claim is your soul you cant stand the idea that anyone else might
have a different viewpoint ideology or opinion than yours.Um...project much? I have no problem with people having a different viewpoint, so long as there is a rationale behind that viewpoint that the person can express and defend. You don't have anything like that, as we've seen from your posts, nor do many on this blog. I have posted my viewpoint, but rather than even attempt to address it, you're happy to make dick jokes. Really, that says a lot regarding the difference between Bush supporters and peace/freedom supporters, don't you think?
Yes it is, and I put that link on every one of my post because unlike
you I am not a coward and I want everyone who reads any of my posts to
know exactly who it is that said what I said.You're like a guy knowingly walking around with his fly down.
I have to tell you, dorian, this is why I come to 30%er blogs these days: to ridicule those who remain tied to Bush's failed authoritarian agenda in hopes that they'll see the absurdity of their worldview. The fact that many of you rise to the occasion so gloriously, providing even more fodder for my ridicule, is enjoyable. But really, I'm hoping you guys can change before you start blowing up main street. I live in a liberal bastion of America, and given the raw frustration you all feel (which will increase as Bush's failure becomes more apparent to you), your inability to defend your viewpoint using words, and the well-documented republican inclination for violence, I'm afraid that in a few years' time, you'll be leaving IEDs in the political aisle of our local bookstore. I hope I'm wrong, but in the meantime I feel compelled to throw buckets of cold water on republican circle jerks as I find them.
Posted by: Paul at April 11, 2007 03:50 PM (vlhyC)
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Paul,
I live in a liberal bastion of America,
In otherwords your a communist and just to god damn stupid to know it.
your inability to defend your viewpoint using words
There is no inability here, no one here needs the exercise of trying to teach a pig to sing to know that it only wastes our time and annoys pigs like you.
and the well-documented republican inclination for violence,
Oh yea that’s right, its the conservative who are assaulting shouting down and disrupting the ability of liberals to speak at colleges and other public gathering.
I'm afraid that in a few years' time,
You are right, there is a civil war coming to this country, but hopefully it wont take more then another year or two.
you'll be leaving IEDs in the political aisle of our local bookstore
Nope, we'll just cut off the fuel to your big cities and when you can’t drive your car to supermarket to get food or turn the electricity on in your house you will turn on each other like the cannibal rats that you really are. Then after you have butchered and eaten most of your kind off and finally attempt to leave your cities we will shoot you down like the rabid diseased vermin that you are.
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=16834
Posted by: doriangrey at April 11, 2007 04:15 PM (XvkRd)
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You keep flailing, I'll keep ridiculing you for it:
In otherwords your a communist and just to god damn stupid to know it.Quick memo: communism is fairly dead in America. You need a new talking point. Actually, I run a small, very successful business that employs and supports 3 employees and their families. Pretty far from a communist. Next?
There is no inability here, no one here needs the exercise of trying to
teach a pig to sing to know that it only wastes our time and annoys
pigs like you.Right, I remember that one from 3rd grade too. "Oh, I could prove you wrong, but I just don't feel like it." We used to make fun of idiots like that back in 3rd grade until they cried. From the looks of your picture, that happened to you a lot.
Oh yea that’s right, its the conservative who are assaulting shouting
down and disrupting the ability of liberals to speak at colleges and
other public gathering.Dorian, you are not a conservative, so let's get rid of that misnomer right now. You cannot support limited government and fiscal responsibility, while supporting Bush, any more than you can support abstinence while also supporting the porn industry. The correct term for you and your ilk is "authoritarian." Say it with me now. Embrace it. Don't be ashamed.
As for the rare times when liberals have shouted down authoritarians, please show me the violence. Wha's that? No violence? Great, then you were comparing apples and oranges, weren't you? I'm referring to your fellow travelers such as Timothy McVeigh in my comment about violence and IEDs. The American left have no such role models.
You are right, there is a civil war coming to this country, but hopefully it wont take more then another year or two.Thanks for supporting my claim. I thought you'd be calling me paranoid.
Nope, we'll just cut off the fuel to your big cities Lovely. So there it is, the first republican today to admit that he'll support civil war against his fellow Americans. I'm sorry, remind me again, who's the real American? Who's the patriot? One who values the rule of law, limited government, checks and balances, and the premise of give-and-take on which every democracy is founded? Or the one who wants to see his fellow Americans suffer and probably die because they won't support his poorly conceived point of view? Also, remind me, who between the two of us is intolerant of opposing viewpoints?
(A quick comment: you are doing an incredible disservice to the pro-Bush viewpoint on this page. I'm happy to ridicule you further, but if I were you, I would stop posting now before you do any more damage.)
Posted by: Paul at April 11, 2007 04:29 PM (vlhyC)
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Paul,
Where the fuck did you get the bizarre notion that I or anyone else here supports Bush? Good god your head is so fucking far up your ass all you can see are your own tonsils. Support any action taken by Bush that supports America yes, support Bush… hell I’m almost ready to vote for his impeachment.
Unlike worthless communist assholes in denial like you we here at Jawa do not think America is evil or are willing to commit treason for the chance to control America’s tax revenues. I and the vast majority of those here at Jawa believe the US Constitution was done right the first time and deserves to be protected.
Unlike you and your communist/liberal wealth redistribution brethren we here at Jawa don’t think the answer to all of our problems is more taxation.
We don’t think our troops are murderer’s rapists or deceived fools.
We hate the idea of activist judges cramming their socialist progressive agendas down our throats in direct defiance of the will of the people.
You like your communists master are obviously exploiting the realities of capitalism for your own benefit whilst forcing your sick perverted agenda down the throat of an unwilling population.
Unlike you fascist bastards we here at Jawa believe the US is a sovereign nation whose borders need and deserve to be protected and preserved.
Don’t even talk to me about rule of law, the only rule of law you worthless sacks of shit believe in are the laws you can have adjudicated from the bench of one of your liberal/communist judges in clear and obvious defiance of the US Constitution and the will of the general population.
If it takes a civil war to protect the US Constitution from your vile despicable brethren then hell yes count me as the first patriotic conservative American to say so.
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=16834
Posted by: doriangrey at April 11, 2007 05:37 PM (XvkRd)
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hell I’m almost ready to vote for his impeachment.Well, that's good to hear, and I'm sorry I misjudged you there. Perhaps you're not part of the 30%. Or perhaps your biggest gripe against Bush is that he hasn't been too authoritarian enough. Anyhow, after that one piece of honesty, you followed it up with some ridiculous strawman arguments I have to tear down now.
Unlike worthless communist assholes in denial like you we here at Jawa
do not think America is evil or are willing to commit treason for the
chance to control America’s tax revenues. I and the vast majority of
those here at Jawa believe the US Constitution was done right the first
time and deserves to be protected.Why call me communist? Why not satanist? Neither one is true, as I've already pointed out, so why not just go for broke?
I do not think America is evil, and in fact I don't know anybody who does. As for committing treason to control American tax revenues, it seems like it was your turn to hit the crack pipe, eh?
Unlike you and your communist/liberal wealth redistribution brethren we
here at Jawa don’t think the answer to all of our problems is more
taxation.Great. Neither do I. However, I do understand that deficit spending doesn't work long-term, and that debt costs a lot more to pay back. I don't agree with wasting tax dollars, which is all I've seen for the past 6 years. I do miss the days of budget surpluses and zero national debt, don't you?
We don’t think our troops are murderer’s rapists or deceived fools.None of them? That's quite a blanket statement, especially considering that some have actually been convicted of those things. But as you like...
You like your communists master are obviously exploiting the realities
of capitalism for your own benefit whilst forcing your sick perverted
agenda down the throat of an unwilling population.Really? What sick, perverted agenda is that? Please provide details, I'm all ears.
Unlike you fascist bastards we here at Jawa believe the US is a
sovereign nation whose borders need and deserve to be protected and
preserved.Actually, I believe that too. Go figure.
Don’t even talk to me about rule of law, the only rule of law you
worthless sacks of shit believe in are the laws you can have
adjudicated from the bench of one of your liberal/communist judges in
clear and obvious defiance of the US Constitution and the will of the
general population.Really? Which rule of law is that? Habeus corpus? That's been a part of liberal governments since the 12th century. 4th amendment? That was part of the original bill of rights, 1789. Ditto for co-equal branches of government. That's what I'm talking about, and, despite what you may have come away with from your homeschooling, those things were not adjudicated by any activist judges.
If it takes a civil war to protect the US Constitution from your vile
despicable brethren then hell yes count me as the first patriotic
conservative American to say so.
How will killing millions of Americans because they refuse to support your own pet causes constitute protecting the US Constitution?
Overall, Dorian, it's nice to see that you actually managed to include some points in your rant this time. Keep it up.
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Anyhow, Dorian, to sum up, you have a very distorted understanding of my views and what kind of person I am, as I've pointed out above. I couldn't care less, obviously, but it does bring up an important point.
You have declared that you support a civil war against people like me, with the implication that we need to die so that you can have the country that you want. You don't know why we need to die, since you don't know anything about us. (Granted, the stawmen you've created have some pretty fucked-up views, however I don't think there are any actual human beings that are at all like your strawmen.) All you do know is that we don't agree with you on everything, that you are unable to make a convincing argument for why we should, and that the only way you can feel better is if we come to a violent end. Does that about sum it up?
Dorian, there's already so much of this kind of thing going on in other countries, sectarian violence among people with different views. Rather than force this country to mimic those ones, couldn't you just move? Say, to Iraq? Wouldn't that be simpler for all concerned? Remember the Vulcan credo about the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the one? Well, we all need a peaceful place to live and raise our families. That's the overwhelming need here in America and most other places. Your needs are for righteous bloodshed. Assuming you can remain out of jail, please, go away and leave us alone.
Posted by: Paul at April 11, 2007 08:49 PM (vlhyC)
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Paul,
you have a very distorted understanding of my views and what kind of person I am
Wrong answer shit for brains, I have a very clear and concise view of who you are and what your very anti-American views are. Like most liberals you wrap yourself in a pathetic and false veneer of patriotism claiming virtue where none exists.
Even that bastard Thomas Jefferson were he alive today would be twisting up a hangman’s noose your you and your ilk.
You have declared that you support a civil war against people like me,
Damn fucking right I have.
You don't know why we need to die, since you don't know anything about us.
Wrong answer again shit for brains. Anyone who attempts to subvert the US Constitution or commits treason or sedition needs to die and that would be you and your political cohorts.
(Granted, the stawmen you've created have some pretty fucked-up views, however I don't think there are any actual human beings that are at all like your strawmen.)
To fucking bad you are to brainwashed and intellectually dishonest to actually take a genuinely honest look at the ideologies that you and your moveon.org reach around buddies support. If you had ever bothered to study the actually writings of the founding fathers of this great nation you would understand why the conservatives of this nation are becoming so willing to fight another civil war with your and your communist asshole buddies.
All you do know is that we don't agree with you on everything,
Everything my ass, we dont agree on anything.
you are unable to make a convincing argument for why we
should,
I know that I cant teach a pig to sing, why waste my time or annoy the pig? Ok so I do enjoy anoyying pigs like you, but not by trying to teach them to sing.
Dorian, there's already so much of this kind of thing going on in other countries, sectarian violence among people with different views. Rather than force this country to mimic those ones, couldn't you just move? Say, to Iraq?
The thing you and your worthless asshole buddies don’t get is that not everything can be solved with a compromise. Why should I surrender the country my family has fought to create since we arrived here in the 1600's? No it isn’t going to happen, nor am I going to sit passively by while scumbags like you turn it into a godless godforsaken bastion of perversion. Either you and your ilk stop attempting to turn it into a socialist/communist wasteland or you accept that you are going to have a real genuine bloody shooting civil war on your hands.
Remember the Vulcan credo about the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the one?
That’s the god damn fucking communist manifesto you worthless ignorant uneducated brain-dead fuck. This is why we don’t agree on anything, because you are so fucking brainwashed and utterly ignorant of what you believe that you honestly don’t know what it is that you believe.
Well, we all need a peaceful place to live and raise our families. That's the overwhelming need here in America and most other places.
But not peace at any price, peace at any price is not peace at all it is subjugation, its tyranny, it is slavery. For those of us who still understand what the founding fathers of this great nation intended, those of us who have studied their writings have taken the time to analyze their intention such a price as you ask is far to great. We will not forever allow you to one compromise after the other steal our heritage pervert our morality and twist our national identity into something unrecognizable by our founding fathers.
And the time is soon coming where we will take back all that you have stolen and perverted.
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=16834
Posted by: doriangrey at April 11, 2007 10:03 PM (XvkRd)
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Wrong answer shit for brains, I have a very clear and concise view of who you are and what your very anti-American views are.Dorian, I can see you're psychotic. However, given the safety of the internet, I would like to explore this conversation further.
You say you have a clear and concise view of who I am. On what do you base that view? Certainly not on things I have written, since I have denied most of the assumptions you've made about me. What, then? Did the voices in your head tell you? Please explain.
Wrong answer again shit for brains. Anyone who attempts to subvert the
US Constitution or commits treason or sedition needs to die and that
would be you and your political cohorts.And yet you're completely unable to cite even vaguely what I am doing to subvert the Constitution or commit treason. Could it be that these are just excuses you tell yourself in order to justify having a death wish against someone?
If you had ever bothered to study the actually writings of the founding
fathers of this great nation you would understand why the conservatives
of this nation are becoming so willing to fight another civil war with
your and your communist asshole buddies.I have read those writings. While I am not a communist, I didn't read anywhere in the writings of the founding fathers that communists need to be killed. Can you cite a passage perhaps?
Everything my ass, we dont agree on anything.I point you to the post above which showed that we do agree on some things. But at this point, I can tell that evidence and logic are not a part of your reality.
I know that I cant teach a pig to sing, why waste my time or annoy the
pig? Ok so I do enjoy anoyying pigs like you, but not by trying to
teach them to sing.You and your singing pigs. Well, Dorian, it's clear between the two of us whose panties are in a wad, isn't it? Let me give you a clue. It's the one who has to write "fuck" every other word and attempt to insult someone he's never met with absolutely meaningless comments. How can you even see the monitor with all the spittle that you flecked there?
Why should I surrender the country my family has fought to create since we arrived here in the 1600's?Sorry, Dorian. Whoever your forebears may have been, the fact is they've already lost. By the time you were born, clearly all the strong genes were gone, perhaps through inbreeding. Now they've got a descendant who spews impotent rage at strangers on the internet and threatens civil war against ghosts his mind has conjured. They must be proud.
Either you and your ilk stop attempting to turn it into a
socialist/communist wasteland or you accept that you are going to have
a real genuine bloody shooting civil war on your hands.Would it be too much to ask you to cite a single example of something I have done to turn the country into a "socialist/communist wasteland?"
And the time is soon coming where we will take back all that you have stolen and perverted.And what is that?
Posted by: Paul at April 11, 2007 10:15 PM (vlhyC)
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If anyone else is reading this page, I have long contended that most republicans were maladjusted psychotics. I offer as exhibit A one Doriangrey.
Now please, does anyone want to disavow our little Kenny G lookalike's dream of civil war against the liberals? Or would you finally admit that yes, the republican party is a death cult populated by psychos?
Posted by: Paul at April 11, 2007 10:17 PM (vlhyC)
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whoreianspray is a dipshit. You are too. You are both from the same asswipe paper that has been used too many times by sick screaming shitters that are from the same coin.
Posted by: F*cknutt at April 12, 2007 08:48 AM (nW7ZC)
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Paul,
Dorian, I can see you're psychotic.
You mean like George Washington, James Madison, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and John Addams were psychotic. Because I am willing to fight to ensure that oppressive tyrannical dictators do not suffocate the will of the people. Then yes you are fucking right I am. If you mean that I am psychotic because I am willing to defend the Constitution of the United States form all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC then hell yes I am.
On what do you base that view? Certainly not on things I have written,
On the contrary that is precisely what my clear and concise view of you is predicated upon. Upon the very things you have posted.
I have denied most of the assumptions you've made about me.
You can deny anything you want, those denials however do not carry any ring of truth.
While I am not a communist,
Bullshit, why dont you quote your litte Vulcan credo to us again so we can all laugh our asses off at you for quoting Marxist dogma without even knowing it. See thats the whole point, you believe things and dont even know what they are or where they come from.
I didn't read anywhere in the writings of the founding fathers that communists need to be killed.
Now look who is hiding behind obvious and blatant strawmen, communism didn’t exist when the founding fathers of this nation drafted the article of confederation let alone the constitution. The founding fathers were on the other hand very cognizant of Hobbs writing as well as having first hand experience with totalitarian oppression. The very fact that they found it necessary to take up arms and wrest control of their and this nation destiny speaks volumes regarding how they would react to you and your communist brethren.
It's the one who has to write "fuck" every other word and attempt to insult someone he's never met with absolutely meaningless comments.
How intellectually dishonest and disingenuously smarmy can you get. Do you honestly believe that because you don’t employee vulgarities that your insults are any less insulting or that perhaps those you are insulting are somehow to stupid ignorant or uneducated to grasp that they are being insulted? Do you honestly believe that simply being polite makes your condescending diatribes somehow acceptable?
Sorry, Dorian. Whoever your forebears may have been,
My forebears were whales from Nantucket, and yes I count Captain Jonathan Walker the branded palm among my ancestors. I also count Col. Henry Walker USAF member of the AVG and commandant of the 94th Aero Squadron as my grandfather. No the genes haven’t gone soft they are as strong as they ever were. Which is why I am willing to fight any and all enemies of this great Republic both foreign and DOMESTIC to preserve this great Union.
Would it be too much to ask you to cite a single example of something I have done to turn the country into a "socialist/communist wasteland?"
How about you cite your Vilcan/Marixist credo again so we can laugh at you some more. Caught by the hairs of your little piggy chinny chin chin you are......
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=16834
Posted by: doriangrey at April 12, 2007 11:23 AM (XvkRd)
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You mean like George Washington, James Madison, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and John Addams were psychotic.
No. I mean like Timothy McVeigh, Ted Bundy and Richard Ramirez. Each of them also had delusions of grandeur too.
On the contrary that is precisely what my clear and
concise view of you is predicated upon. Upon the very things you have
posted.
Okay. So when, in my original post, I pointed out that you guys were taking yourselves and this fatwa too seriously, and you immediately followed up with a claim that I was a communist, can you explain where your claim came from? Keep in mind, this is before I came out with my Vulcan post, which you misinterpreted. Somehow, you decided that my original ridicule could have only come from a follower of Karl Marx. I'm curious how that worked.
Fact is, face it, you've made claims about me based on absolutely nothing. Go back and look at the order in which these claims came, and what I said to precede them, and you'll realize (sorry, what am I thinking, you're psychotic) and a rational mind will realize that your rants about me are based only on things inside your head.
Bullshit, why dont you quote your litte Vulcan credo to us again so we
can all laugh our asses off at you for quoting Marxist dogma without
even knowing it.Um...who's we? Is there something else there with you? An imaginary friend? Demons?
As for equating the Vulcan thing with Marxism (which appears to be the central hub of your point now), that's just funny. So, what, are you saying that Star Trek is communist propaganda?
Do you honestly believe that because you don’t employee vulgarities
that your insults are any less insulting or that perhaps those you are
insulting are somehow to stupid ignorant or uneducated to grasp that
they are being insulted?Of course, I know I've insulted you to the core, which is why you've come back like a screaming 8-year-old who's been kicked in the nuts. I wasn't suggesting otherwise. What I was responding to was your suggestion that you were annoying me. Fact is, I'm enjoying this immensely, watching you squeal like a stuck pig. Dance, pig! Dance!
Which is why I am willing to fight any and all enemies of this great
Republic both foreign and DOMESTIC to preserve this great Union.Not quite, my boy. You're obviously very unwilling to fight any foreign enemies, which is why your Kenny G ass is here in the states making shit music instead of getting shot at in Iraq or Afghanistan. However, with your ALL CAPS emphasis, I can see that your hatred is more focused on your fellow Americans than on any foreign enemies. Still, just as with the foreign enemies, it's clear that if a real civil war were to start, you would be found under your momma's bed in fetal position in a puddle of your own urine, possibly humming "Free Bird."
Posted by: Paul at April 12, 2007 12:14 PM (UQjlG)
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Paul,
No. I mean like Timothy McVeigh, Ted Bundy and Richard Ramirez. Each of them also had delusions of grandeur too.
Only in your twisted and demented little mind.
can you explain where your claim came from?
Only liberals who are in fact communists but too fucking stupid to know it use the term neo-con in a derogatory manner. Again trapped by the hair of your chinny chin chin...
As for equating the Vulcan thing with Marxism (which appears to be the central hub of your point now), that's just funny. So, what, are you saying that Star Trek is communist propaganda?
Again this is all about education and your profound lack thereof. The Vulcan credo...the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, is just a rewording of… from each according to his/her ability, to each according to his/her need. Which is a direct quote from none other then the father of communism Karl Marx himself. And gee do you think the fact that so many liberal/socialist/communist were writers in hollywierd in the sixties might explain how communist/socialist ideology found its way into a popular television series?
Lets look at some of the communist concepts that you and your liberal/socialist/communist buddies are embracing…
10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto
Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Abolition of all right of inheritance.
Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c..
[3]
Kelo v. City of New London, anybody….
have you look at the liberal/democratic tax plan…
Can you say Democratic authored death tax
Ruby Ridge…anyone???
Federal Reserve…
Department of Transportation…Federal Communication Commission
Waste Management
not there yet
not there yet
Department of Education
Looks like you guys got most of them down.
Not quite, my boy. You're obviously very unwilling to fight any foreign enemies, which is why your Kenny G ass is here in the states making shit music instead of getting shot at in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Wrong again shit for brains, at 46 I'm just a little to old to enlist.
Still, just as with the foreign enemies, it's clear that if a real civil war were to start, you would be found under your momma's bed in fetal position in a puddle of your own urine, possibly humming "Free Bird."
Yep and if you keep clicking your heals together you might eventually find your way back to Kansas Dorothy....
Fact is, I'm enjoying this immensely, watching you squeal like a stuck pig. Dance, pig! Dance!
Again this is exclusively in your sick and twisted little pathetic excuse for a mind. But committed little liberal/socialist/communist that you are reality is in no danger of sheding the light of truth in that vacant empty pitch black wasteland you call your soul.
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=16834
Posted by: doriangrey at April 12, 2007 02:02 PM (XvkRd)
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Only liberals who are in fact communists but too fucking stupid to know it use the term neo-con in a derogatory manner.Okay. So given that theory of yours, most of the world are populated by communists? Because the neo-con philosophy has been judged an utter failure by 70% of Americans and probably 99% of non-Americans.
Of course, you present a logical fallacy here, as a false choice. Your belief is that if you reject neoconservatism (which has absolutely nothing in common with traditional conservatism), you must be a communist. You may also believe that if you don't like Coke, then you must drink Pepsi. This is clearly the work of a lazy mind.
Again this is all about education and your profound lack thereof. The
Vulcan credo...the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, is
just a rewording of… from each according to his/her ability, to each according to his/her need.
Which is a direct quote from none other then the father of communism
Karl Marx himself. And gee do you think the fact that so many
liberal/socialist/communist were writers in hollywierd in the sixties
might explain how communist/socialist ideology found its way into a
popular television series?
You're obviously not a trekkie. If you were, you'd remember that the original Star Trek series, from which your so-called Marxist indoctrination emanates, had several episodes that played off the Cold War environment of the times, portraying the Communists as evil and the Americans as good. What was that, reverse psychology?
If you're inclined to see every instance where the needs of the many outweigh the needs of little 'ol you as an example of godless Communism, that only underscores your sociopathic nature. What do you do at a red light if you're in a hurry? Run it, because your own needs are paramount? Or wait, because you understand that society requires people to obey traffic laws? If everyone had the same attitude, society would come to a grinding halt.
Regarding your quotes about communism, I agree that those are terrible things. I have been protesting and working against the rising tide of an overpowering central government for over 10 years, back when your overriding political concern was whose spooge stain was on that blue dress. While you may have never heard of Echelon or Carnivore, these were 2 programs during the Clinton Admin against which there was a strong protest in which I participated.
Oh, but let me guess: your reply to that will be "bullshit", because that is always your reply to something that doesn't fit into your shallow worldview.
In terms of overreaching federal government power, never has that expanded to nearly such a degree as during the past 6 years of Bush. If you thought Clinton was bad for those things, you must absolutely revile Bush.
Anyhow, unsurprisingly, your claims that I am a supporter of these things is completely false and hollow. Still, I know you need to cling to those beliefs, no matter how false, because it provides you the righteous cause you need to hate "me and my kind." This makes up the core of your illness.
Wrong again shit for brains, at 46 I'm just a little to old to enlist.Just a little. The maximum age is 42. Back after 9/11, you were of age. So why didn't you enlist? That spot under your momma's bed was just too comfortable to leave, wasn't it? C'mon, Kenny G, time for full disclosure.
vacant empty pitch black wasteland you call your soulJust like your claim that I am intolerant of differing beliefs, you and I both know this comment is complete projection on your part. I'm actually quite sorry for you. It can't be very nice to regard your soul as an empty pitch black wasteland. However, after hearing your music, I'm inclined to agree.
Posted by: Paul at April 12, 2007 02:36 PM (UQjlG)
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Paul,
Okay. So given that theory of yours, most of the world are populated by communists? Because the neo-con philosophy has been judged an utter failure by 70% of Americans and probably 99% of non-Americans.
Just keep pulling the bullshit out of your ass. Nobody will know it right!!!!
reject neoconservatism
Not reject neo-conservatism but use the term neo-con in a derogatory manner. Rejection of an idea is not the same as using that term in a derogatory manner. Furthermore what is equally important is whom you are defaming with the derogatory slur. You willingness to paint anyone who might be suspect of supporting Bush or might be a republican or who might not agree with your pathetic assessments of the current state of affairs both here and Iraq clearly identifies you as a far left liberal ideology.
You're obviously not a trekkie. If you were, you'd remember that the original Star Trek series, from which your so-called Marxist indoctrination emanates, had several episodes that played off the Cold War environment of the times, portraying the Communists as evil and the Americans as good. What was that, reverse psychology?
Boy you just cant get anything right can you. Yes I would pretty much qualify as a Trekkie, but that doesn’t mean I have to be ignorant of where some of the ideologies presented by the some two dozen different writers who wrote the show came from. The writing could by no stretch of the imagination be considered cohesive or all inclusive. Each of the writers had their own social agendas and once a particular script was accepted Gene Roddenberry required that subsequent scripts did not directly contradict previous scripts. There was no intention of promoting any specific political ideology, nor was there any censoring of political or social agenda. Nor does the fact that one of the writers did incorporate Marxist ideology into one of the scripts alter the fact that you subscribe to that ideology without knowing its origins. As I have said it is a typical example of your ignorance and lack of education to the origins of the ideology of your liberal cohorts.
Just a little. The maximum age is 42. Back after 9/11, you were of age. So why didn't you enlist? That spot under your momma's bed was just too comfortable to leave, wasn't it? C'mon, Kenny G, time for full disclosure.
Again you ignorance and dishonesty know no fucking bounds do they.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/a/enlstandards.htm
Age
One would think that age would be a simple category. One is either old enough, or too old, right? Unfortunately, it doesn't quite work that way. By federal law (10 U.S.C., 510), the minimum age for enlistment in the United States Military is 17 (with parental consent) and the maximum age is 35 (Note: Congress changed this to age 42 in 2006). However, DOD policy allows the individual services to specify the maximum age of enlistment based upon their own unique requirements. The individual services have set the following maximum ages for non-prior service enlistment:
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=16834
Posted by: doriangrey at April 12, 2007 04:41 PM (XvkRd)
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Not reject neo-conservatism but use the term neo-con in a derogatory
manner. Rejection of an idea is not the same as using that term in a
derogatory manner.Please explain the difference as it applies to what I wrote: "Rusty, stop struggling to find some hint of relevance in a post-neocon world."
My statement above implies no judgment regarding neoconservatism. It's simply a fact. Neoconservatism, under people like Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Kristol and the rest of the PNAC, has been almost thoroughly discredited by the Iraq disaster and other shortcomings of the Bush presidency. Evidence of this can be seen in both Bush and Cheney's incredibly low approval ratings, as well as the fact that no 2008 presidential candidates will be caught associating themselves with the neoconservative philosophy. Therefore, while you may not have noticed, we are in a post-neocon world. (Thank god.)
In my original statement, there is no indication of my preference of economic system (capitalism, communism, whatever). You simply saw an opposing viewpoint and attacked with everything you had, most of which is wildly off the mark.
Which means that this statement of yours is pure hypocrisy:
Furthermore what is equally important is whom you are defaming with the
derogatory slur. You willingness to paint anyone who might be suspect
of supporting Bush or might be a republican or who might not agree with
your pathetic assessments of the current state of affairs both here and
Iraq clearly identifies you as a far left liberal ideology.Let's turn this around: Your willingness to paint anyone who might be suspected of opposing Bush or not being a republican or who might not agree with your pathetic assessments of the current state of affairs both here and Iraq clearly identifies you as a far right authoritarian.
Anyhow, back to neoconservatism. As you know, I do hold a very dim view of neoconservatism, although I didn't express that in my first post on this page. And so should you, if one is to believe your rants. Neoconservatism, as I've mentioned, has nothing to do with traditional conservatism and its goal of limited government. On the contrary, neoconservatism's goal is greatly expanded government. Its main adherents do not call themselves conservatives. In an interview I heard recently with the head of the American Enterprise Institute, he declared himself absolutely not a conservative, but a radical. (His words.)
Anyhow, your mouth-foaming defense of neoconservatism, while in the same post decrying the treasonous expansion of government, does not make you look any smarter. It's funny that you claim I don't know I'm a communist for quoting Spock, a fictional character. You think you're a conservative, but you support overt authoritarians, real people who are actively making the changes in government that you most revile. You should really look into the neocons a bit deeper and try and understand what you've been fooled into supporting. It is the exact opposite of your professed beliefs.
Of course, that's what a rational person would do. You, on the other hand, will just continue with your hate and anger, focused on the ghosts in your head.
As for enlistment age, I'm sorry, I didn't know it had only been raised in 2006. My bad.
Posted by: Paul at April 12, 2007 09:08 PM (IjlIP)
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Paul ,
As for enlistment age, I'm sorry, I didn't know it had only been raised in 2006. My bad.
Thats not the only thing you are wrong about, in fact you just continue to should your liberal brainwashed ignorant uneducated bias every time you post.
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=16834
Posted by: doriangrey at April 13, 2007 11:06 AM (XvkRd)
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Paul's so fucking stupid he doesn't understand who the Jawas are. This is the Jawa report. Get it! Talk about dumb.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 15, 2007 08:01 AM (2J0r9)
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And Paul. Do you really think we give a crap about what you think?
Posted by: greyrooster at April 16, 2007 07:33 PM (tdfeo)
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USA, all the way!
Did I finally get my fatwa? I feel so...so...vindicated.
I recieved a comment from Amsterdam on this post over at Black Flag. The post is a video dedicated by his mates to a fallen US solider, Kevin Adam Lucas. The comment is as follows.
...I will have to dig but know I have read the unclean part for females on some islam websites. They quote the Koran. I am just going to have to send the new Cox & Forkum cartoon to he/she/it. Plus a note to the abuse ppl. 
