Zawahiri, ashamed of the terrible cowardice of the ICU fighters, begs and pleads for them to stand and fight. as-Sahab has again used a still image of Zawahiri. I wonder why ;)

Click the pic for Video(no subtitles).

I also appeal to my Muslim brethren everywhere to respond to the call for jihad in Somalia. I appeal to the lions of Islam in Yemen, the state of faith and wisdom, I appeal to my brothers the lions of Islam in the Arab Peninsula, the cradle of conquests, and I also appeal to my brothers the lions of Islam in Egypt, Sudan, the Arab Maghreb, and everywhere in the Muslim world to rise up to aid their Muslim brethren in Somalia through offering sacrifices, money, opinion, and expertise so as to defeat the slaves of America that it sends to death on its behalf.

I appeal to the Muslims everywhere to rush to support their brother mujahidin who are being encroached upon and are being fought by America and its slaves for they chose the law of Islam instead of the law of looting, plundering, theft, bribery, corruption, and treachery.

Centcom:MANAMA, Bahrain-- Coalition ships from the British-led Combined Task Force (CTF) 150 continue to maintain a presence off the east coast of Africa in response to the recent events in Somalia.

CTF 150 includes USS Ramage (DDG 61) and USS Bunker Hill (CG 52) and other coalition ships. These warships are conducting maritime security operations (MSO) to ensure continued security and stability of international waters surrounding the Horn of Africa.

Coalition naval forces are performing boardings on a number of vessels to deter individuals with links to al-Qaida and other terrorist organizations the use of the sea as a potential escape route....

...MSO help set the conditions for security and stability in the maritime environment, as well as complement the counter-terrorism and security efforts of regional nations. These operations deny international terrorists use of the maritime environment as a venue for attack or to transport personnel, weapons or other material.

Also See Andrew Cochran at The Counter Terrorism Blog and Strata-Sphere. more...

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One of the worst things about being gone from Jawa headquarters is that I missed the fall of the African Taliban. These people fell quicker than their Afghani brothers, and at the hands of our Ethiopian allies.

I hope you think twice about that next Ethiopian joke, because folks, the Ethiopians are the best friends we have in the Horn of Africa. I'm sorry that the leader of Ethiopia is a two-bit tyrant, but as an American I am out for America's interests. It's also good to see that the "at least the Islamic Courts Union will bring stability to Somalia" voices at the U.S. State Department have been utterly squelched. These were the same cup-half-full people who said that the Taliban would, you know, at least bring stability to Afghanistan. The stability that only murderous terrorist supporting regimes can bring.

I do not overstate the case against The Islamic Courts Union either. Sure, there were moderates within their group, but so too did the Taliban have their so-called moderates. Moderate in that oh-so Islamic fundamentalist sense: instead of stoning you to death, we'll just fine you and give you 100 lashes for blasphemy.

While the ICU denies ties to al Qaeda, I have personally watched three videos from Somalia (okay, one was from Eritrea), all of which clearly show Arabs fighting alongside Somalis. And both the main al Qaeda and the al Qaeda in Iraq groups have openly supported the ICU in several press releases and propaganda videos.

It's also good to see that U.S. troops are involved in the hunt. Globe and Mail via Allahpundit:

Sea routes from southern Somalia were also being patrolled by the U.S. Navy, hunting for three al-Qaeda suspects believed to be among the Islamic group and wanted for the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in East Africa.

Special US forces from Djibouti join the pursuit on the Somali-Kenyan border for three most wanted al Qaeda leaders in the Horn of Africa

They fled south with the defeated Somali Islamist fighters. DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources identify them as: Abdullah Fazul, from the Comoro Islands, Ali Saleh Nabhan, from Kenya, and Abu Taha al-Sudani, from Sudan. Fazul, the most senior, is wanted for lead roles in the 1998 US embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi, the 1996 Ethiopian Airline 961 hijack in which four Israeli air industry directors and 3 Israeli civilians were murdered; the ramming of the USS Cole in Aden Harbor which cost the lives of 19 US seamen, and the 2002 coordinated air-missiles attacks on the Mombasa Paradise hotel and the Israeli Arkia airliner bringing Israelis to the hotel.

And to our hundreds of Somali expats in Canada, Australia, and Europe who apparently supported the ICU and left nasty messages about "Ethiopian slaves" and "killing you infidels", let me be the first to offer my condolences on the humiliating defeat of your comrades. If you happen to come across ICU foreign minister and American citizen Professor Ibrahim Hassan Addou, let me know. There are a few FBI agents I know who'd like to have a nice cozy chat with him.

As a very parenthetical footnote, let me throw this into the bag. There is a slight possibility that U.S forces are hunting for one more al Qaeda suspect believed to be in the Horn of Africa by some. Here's a hint: his name is somewhat similar to a Democratic hopeful for the 2008 election---at least, that's how Ted Kennedy sees it.

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1 If he's on the Horn of Africa, let's hope they nab him.

Posted by: dick at January 02, 2007 08:18 PM (DuQSn)

2 Great, I can just hear John Edwards whining in the 2008 campaign that "George Bush outsourced the hunt for Osama to the Ethiopians. Two Americas!"

Posted by: wooga at January 02, 2007 08:55 PM (t9sT5)

3 No oil in Somalia.  Leftards give us permission.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 02, 2007 09:35 PM (8e/V4)

4 How will the scum at State handle this defeat? How will they explain it
to their masters at the UN? Honestly, I don't really give a shit; all I
know is the sooner a nuke takes out Washington DC, along with all the
parasites, of course, the better off we'll be.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 02, 2007 09:36 PM (v3I+x)

5

I just can't get the image out of my head of "Starvin Marvin" chasing around Osama.

 

Posted by: Mrs Abe Froman at January 02, 2007 11:04 PM (2wxXK)

6 Welcome back, Dr. Rusty. 
 
I'm glad that the Ethiopians decided to get involved in Somalia.  It's time that countries start taking care of their neighbors and not rely on the USA or the UN to do the dirty work.  Well, the USA and the UN do decidedly different kinds of dirty work, don't they?

Posted by: RepJ at January 02, 2007 11:32 PM (rqlgb)

7 What happened to all these big mouthed black somalis commenting here two weeks ago. They talked so brave. Perhaps they went to fight the good manly fight. But most likely they are hiding behind some dorm room in the west. Black muslims are animals. OUTLAW ISLAM. They are just not worth the trouble.

Posted by: Greyrooster at January 03, 2007 09:19 AM (cJw/p)

8 Ah Greyrooster you tagged the Somali's from earlier correctly! I think they got the idea. 
 
USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 04, 2007 02:51 AM (2OHpj)

9 OOPs! I don't think color makes anyone an animal. I think what is in their heart, and their mind decided that. I kinda liked M. Ali the boxer. I liked Foreman better though. Needed to clarify MY position. Yours is fine
 
USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 04, 2007 02:55 AM (2OHpj)

10 Ali the boxer was a piece of shit who claimed the white man was the devil. A draft dodger with an IQ of 90.  Many innocent whites were attacked and injuried because of his big mouth. Personally, I enjoy seeing him drool all over himself as that is the best ever to come from his mouth. A muslim is a muslim and they all suck. Muslims are like mosquitos. Quit telling he about the one who didn't bite you.

Posted by: Greyrooster at January 04, 2007 12:15 PM (gKESr)

11 OK, what about Foreman? As a boxer, and a man?
 
USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at January 05, 2007 12:20 AM (2OHpj)

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So the fact that the African Taliban is in full retreat was big news yesterday. Today we have news that they are already about to lose the capital Mogadishu.

Is this really surprising? They are all cocky and stuff when they are murding civilians for watching soccer,. But like most Islamist cockroaches, when the light of day hits them, they scurry and hide.

Monsters and Critics: Government troops fought their way into Jowhar, some 90 kilometres north of Mogadishu early on Wednesday as Islamist fighters in the town retreated to the capital, after orders by the Islamist chairman, Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed.

'We attack Mogadishu Thursday. We will catch and behead all the terrorists and militants as they behead the innocent people,' said Mohamed Dhere, a former warlord who once controlled Jowhar and marched into the town with the government forces on Wednesday.

Residents of Balad, 30 kilometres north of Mogadishu said the Ethiopian-backed forces were 20 kilometres away from their town, while all Islamist troops had retreated from there to the capital.

In Jowhar, Dhere told residents they would now be able to watch movies and football, which the Islamists had banned.

'Now the people of Jowhar are free. Open your cinemas, open your businesses. You are under the care of the national forces of the transitional government,' he said from a pickup truck mounted with audio speakers.

Update: The MSM is already rerunning their defeatist surrender monkey crap. Chad at In The Bullpen is not buying it.

Chad Evans: It seems odd to me, however, to classify an overwhelming victory, or perceived future victory in this case, over an Islamist organization reminiscent of any current or past war....

...I suppose that all depends on how you look at things or a nation’s ability or right to wage war against aggression, both rhetorical and military. Do we wish to simply ignore militant jihad in fear of insurgency or do we wish to fight it tooth and nail until it is vanquished?

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A little "intensive care package" is on it's way. Enjoy!

See Junkyard Blog and Dan at Riehlworldview who adds:

This will be a tough fight, but I wouldn't name my army the ICU ... just sayin'.

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Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey Press reports:

BAIDOA, Somalia (AFP) - Ethiopia moved tanks and other reinforcements into the battle zone for a third day of fighting against Islamist forces in southern Somalia, witnesses said, while the Islamists vowed an all-out war.

Ethiopa seems to know the stakes in this game. They appear determined not to allow Somalia to follow in the footsteps of Afghanistan.

Iran knows them too, they're giving the Islamic Courts Union their full support.

We're probably supporting Ethiopa with intel, special forces and material, but it would be nice to read that we're getting a little revenge by providing them some close air support.

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Somalia's government (if you can call it that) is claiming victory over the Islamic Courts Union forces in a battle outside of the "capital" Baidoa.

According to the report, Ethiopian troops took part in the fighting.

I wonder if the Hollywood left will rally around the Ethiopians as they fight and die to prevent Somalia from becoming another Taliban-like state the way they did when Ethiopians were dying of starvation in the '80s.

Mmm....doubt it.

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Does anyone remember the story of the Bulgarian nurses accused of deliberately giving Libyan children AIDS?

They've been sentenced to death.

Again.

Classic totalitarian tactic. Find a scapegoat to divert attention from the real criminals, the Libyan government.

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I love how the idiots at the State Department wish for a moderate to emerge to lead the Islamic Courts Union. Moderate meaning what, exactly? Like those moderate Taliban in Afghanistan we used to hear about before 9/11?

I've been warning about this for months. But it's too late now. Somalia is no longer a potential Afghanistan, it is already the next Afghanistan. It is being used as a base of operation for Islamic jihadis now.

Reuters :

Somali Islamists, who are in charge of the capital and other key areas, are becoming more radical and under growing control from an al Qaeda cell in East Africa, the top U.S. diplomat for Africa said on Thursday.

U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Jendayi Frazer told reporters that U.S. hopes a more moderate group might emerge to lead the group had not materialized.

"The Council of Islamic Courts is now controlled by al Qaeda cell individuals, East Africa al Qaeda cell individuals. The top layer of the court are extremists. They are terrorists," Frazer said.

"They are killing nuns, they have killed children and they are calling for a jihad (holy war)," she added.

The Islamists, who seized the capital, Mogadishu, in June and are vying with the weak transitional government for control of the lawless country, have strongly denied having foreign fighters in their ranks.

Washington believes at least three of the plotters behind the 1998 U.S. Embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya are in Somalia. The head of the Council of the Islamic Courts, Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys, is on U.N. and U.S. terrorist lists.

She also said an East African al Qaeda cell was providing logistics to the Islamists and training to its young Islamic fighters.

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1 "The head of the Council of the Islamic Courts, Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys, is on U.N. and U.S. terrorist lists."

Guess what? Legendary African leader Mr. Nelson Mandela was once on that list as well. Was he a terrorist? Hell no. The same goes for the ICU leaders who happen to have defeated the real terrorists who terrorised the Somali people for the past 15 years. Its just plain stupid for the US who supported the same Warlords terrorists that killed our people and raped our country, to come here and accuse the ICU as terrorists.

The Somali people as well as ay sane person with an ounce of brains fully knows who the terrorists and murderers are. The bloodsucking Warlords that are holed up in Baidoa and their supporters and financiers (USA and Ethiopia).

Posted by: Victim of Warlords at December 14, 2006 09:15 PM (RR4g+)

2 These nuts won't even let people watch soccer or listen to music....

Even I-madly-need-jihad isn't that crazy.

Posted by: wooga at December 14, 2006 09:39 PM (t9sT5)

3 "No foreign fighters, right. I have personally seen video from Somalia with Arab fighters in it. They boast that mujahideen have been flocking there. What they say in English...."
 
You are totally wrong. There are no arabs in Somalia. Somali people have both light skinned and dark skinned clans. You might have seen the lighter skinned Somalis who are also fighting for their country agaist the brutal Warlords and their external supporters.
 
 

Posted by: Victim of Warlords at December 14, 2006 10:25 PM (RR4g+)

4 Fake Victim of Warlords:


Was Nelson Mandela a terrorist? HELL YES. Try reading some history, and learn about the terrorist activities the groups he belonged to engaged in.


The ICU are warlords, dipshit. Your Arab Al Qaeda buddies hve been in Somalia for a long, long, time. Bin Loser loved the place. Al Qaeda provided the training and much of the arms that contributed to the "Black Hawk Down" incident.


You remember that. 100 soldiers fought their way out of an entire city bent on murdering them. They only lost 19 men if I remember correctly, but they took out more than 1000 Somali pussies.


The next time America spanks Somalia, there will be no headlong withdrawal--just a whole lotta ass kicking.


Terrorist stronholds are on the short list for destruction since 911. Your terrorist buddies are an endangered species.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 14, 2006 10:53 PM (bLPT+)

5 who ever wrote this article is totally wrong because that tape that u claim u saw is pure us and western propaganda, the icu ousted the terrosorist that the us and ethiopia were supporting who raped and killed so who are the terrorist here?
and that tape did u forget somalia is an arab nation and also a muslim country. muslims and arabs enjoy full citizenship in somalia and those warlord terrosists are now in the puppet goverments base so surely the goverment is not going to be accused of harboring terrorists are they, jus admit ur just against islam and dont want no muslim goverment instilled in somalia.

Posted by: abz at December 14, 2006 11:32 PM (6wveo)

6 We actually lost only 18 in the battle. One was killed in a morter attack a day after the "battle".
 
18/1000 - that's about the current rate in Shitraq. We would have loved to have that ratio in WWII!
 
 

Posted by: Max Power at December 14, 2006 11:43 PM (PM8kH)

7 Max Power:


That's for sure. Jihadi combat skills just don't measure up to those of the Nazis and Imperial Japanese. Those guys were stinkers, but they sure as hell weren't pussies. The jihadis are pussies, and their ideology is even more despicable than that of the Axis powers. 


I don't really care about the Somalian public, but I do look forward to the "Caliphate" being expunged from that area.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 15, 2006 12:00 AM (bLPT+)

8 Frankly, I don't give a shit about what happens in Somalia. Just look at the stupid posts from those claiming to be Somalians. One is a phoney the other an ignorant asshole. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS SOMALIS DO NOT COME HERE.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 15, 2006 12:53 AM (vLeHe)

9 Even if Somalia is already Aghansitan, so what? Dr. Rusty-minded? Is Afghanistan or Somalia your country? Hell no! Then hands off Muslim peoples and get out of Muslim lands! It is better for you! Simple!

Posted by: Mohamed Gure at December 15, 2006 03:40 AM (xAgcV)

10 Mr. Grey Rooster Chicken, "Somalis do not come here"! Here is where? You are so ignorant that you do not realise that you are posting to the whole world! Obviously the term globalisation has not reached you yet, Mr. Chicken.

If you mean "here" by the US, Somalis are already here!

For your information, it was only one Somali clan that kicked the fans of Uncle Sam's rangers!

Just leave Somalia alone. Somalis are not red Indians!

Posted by: Omar Gaalkiye at December 15, 2006 03:59 AM (xAgcV)

11 The person who compiled this article is an ignorant islamophopic individual. The United States is damaging its interest and good name by throwing its weight behind war criminals and bloodthursty thugs in Somalia. UIC is the saviour of Somali nation. They practically stopped all the criminal activities and crimes against humanity that warlords were carrying out (with United States' support). Bring them on, UIC will effectively defend Somalia from any outside aggression. That right of self-defence is inshrined in the UNited Nations Charter.

Posted by: Freedom Fighter at December 15, 2006 04:15 AM (eeets)

12 The person who compiled this article is an ignorant islamophopic individual. The United States is damaging its interest and good name by throwing its weight behind war criminals and bloodthursty thugs in Somalia. UIC is the saviour of Somali nation. They practically stopped all the criminal activities and crimes against humanity that warlords were carrying out (with United States' support). Bring them on, UIC will effectively defend Somalia from any outside aggression. That right of self-defence is inshrined in the UNited Nations Charter.

Posted by: Freedom Fighter at December 15, 2006 04:15 AM (eeets)

13 THe only means that can solve the situation in SOMALIA is dialogue & discussion.

Posted by: ADRI at December 15, 2006 05:42 AM (r0fq6)

14 I am not a somalis but i know these islamist have accomplished alot for the last six months.

Posted by: allew at December 15, 2006 06:16 AM (O9OfD)

15 Yes to UIC Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys no to the warlords no to theUSA,Sort out your own problems usa

Posted by: saeed at December 15, 2006 07:36 AM (i9Uty)

16 I wonder why other posts about islamic states don't garner much of a response, but all the retards flock to the defense of a 3rd rate hellhole (even by 3rd rate hellhole middle-eastern dictatorship standards) with a chip on its shoulder.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at December 15, 2006 07:51 AM (VvXII)

17 The statement of Ms.Frazer right and on the dot. Who is UIC? I mean only the facts!The UIC force is now composed of:
Foregn fighters: Eritreans eager to open a southern front against Ethiopia (no Somali peace agenda there),Armed Ethiopian opposition (OLF,ONLF, Amhara etc) eager to use Somalia as a staging ground ( Somalia peace will work against their stated goal)and so called (Muslim) Global Terorrists fighting for global Jahad (No interest in Somalia peace either).
The Somali Militia now armed and fighting for UIC is Al-Shabab (the Youth) who have and are guided by exactly the same Al-Qaeda and/or Islamic Global Jahadis agenda (no interest in Somalia Peace either). They want o continue the global terorrism.

Posted by: DMJ at December 15, 2006 01:02 PM (Nxwqw)

18 Somali's must like to bugger little boys, it's always funny when mufti's have to give an edict saying Jihadi's should only bugger boys with hair on their faces...

Posted by: davec at December 15, 2006 03:48 PM (yaQM4)

19 Bitch Frazer does not know what she is talking about. A house slave bitch. Why U.S. always like to bush around small countries. We Somalis want to be left alone... simple as that

Posted by: Siad Barre at December 15, 2006 08:11 PM (4yu7s)

20 DMJ,

I guess you are one of those mother fucker traitors who like Ethiopian cock up in your ass. You are fucking foolish. There are no so called forgien fighters in Somalia. Somalis can fight thier own war unless you happen to be that an octogeneration Melis Zenawi's bitch aka Cabdulaahi Yuusuf who is asking Melis to protect him. I cannot wait until Tuesday. That is the deadline the true patriotic Somalis gave to the rag tag Tigraay militia to leave Somalia or face the wrath of the Somali fighters. I cannot wait to see Ethiopian blood being shed on Somalia soil.

To Rusty Shackleford,

Sir you are really really dumb with a brain of a chicken. You do not know what you talking about. Go to Somalia and find out on your own the reality on the ground. And I promise you we wont slaughter you and drag you on the streets of Mogadishu. Somalia is at peace with itself for the first time in a long time. However, blood sucking Melis and ill informed US goverment do not want to see peace and progress in Somalia.

I hope the US govermnet comes to its sense and changes it policy towards Somalia.

Posted by: Siad Barre at December 15, 2006 08:31 PM (jIy1f)

21 its real actually when you think what it was missing past 16years when we clear all the war the second the govent coming up like they can do something right actually they all square out so we said them sorry for that prime minster cleaning zenawi his ass that is real trouble we saying allahu akbar somalian guul every where thank you

Posted by: gaadeey at December 15, 2006 08:44 PM (Qriam)

22 Siad Barre:
I hope the US govermnet comes to its sense and changes it policy towards Somalia.

Hold your breath, and see if it happens -- bringing to power a radical extremist organization as a Government Body, modeled after the Taliban isn't going to make the U.S change it's policy, it will only strengthen our current policy.

I personally wish our policy was to leave Somalia alone, and by that I mean no economic aid, no resources via the United Nations, no telecommunication providers, or American corporations being able to do business with Somalia, a full on embargo if you will.

Posted by: davec at December 15, 2006 09:52 PM (yaQM4)

23 The scumbags on this thread defending the vile UIC are perfect examples of why Somalia is a disease on the Earth we all live on, and why the muslims ravaging that worthless shit-hole need to be bombed off the face of the Earth.


100 American soldiers handed a city full of skinnies a 1000/18 kill ratio, with no outside support. If America decides to take out the UIC terrorists--and I pray it does--it will roll over any resistance like a tank on a turd.


The islamopithecines here are puffing up their chicken chests and spouting the same empty bravado I used to hear concerning  Somali pirates, and were are those pirates now? Britain's royal Navy exterminated them like the cockroaches they were.


I'm not exactly worried about being slaughtered and dragged through the streets by woefully inept Somali pussies who are so scrawny they could choke on a kernal of rice.


You So-smallies are the ones who need to be worried.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 15, 2006 10:43 PM (bLPT+)

24 Rusty Shackleford! The name speaks for itself. I imagine this guy shackled or "shackle-folded" guy full of rust from brain to toe, lying in a pigshit hole somewhere in Texas! What does he know about Somalia and its civilization.

Go back to history and you will find the majestic Somalis in the records of this punt and paradiseland as far back as the hatshepsut pharoah, Ibn Batuta and Vasco Da Gama's times! That is, centuries before the existence of your violence-based country. It is all in the internet!

Posted by: Mohamed Gure at December 16, 2006 01:46 AM (xAgcV)

25 Hi all,

without prejudice, hatred, or insults, any one who is interested in fair intellectual discussion is welcome:

United States’ definition of terrorism is “premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against innocents.” Somalia’s Islamic Courts did not commit violence against innocents. Can any one prove the countrary, save the cheap soccer fan propoganda!

• The Islamic Courts are homegrown movement that was created to restore law and order. Clan elders came together and formed these courts, and the Somali people supported.
• The Islamic Courts openly communicated to the world that they have Somali agenda. As a Somali movement, the courts want to restore law and order in the areas that are controlled by the warlords by using Islam.
• The Islamic Courts believe that, since all Somalis are Muslims, Islam is the solution to the problems of the Somalis. It transcends clan bounderies which dived Somalis for too long
• Linking the good name of the courts with terrorism is based on fabricated and self-serving intelligence by warlords and Ethiopians.

NB: Any one who can not respond intelligently should hold his/her emotions.

Thanks

Posted by: Ahmed Gurey at December 16, 2006 02:20 AM (xAgcV)

26 Hi all,

without prejudice, hatred, or insults, any one who is interested in fair intellectual discussion is welcome:

United States’ definition of terrorism is “premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against innocents.” Somalia’s Islamic Courts did not commit violence against innocents. Can any one prove the countrary, save the cheap soccer fan propoganda!

• The Islamic Courts are homegrown movement that was created to restore law and order. Clan elders came together and formed these courts, and the Somali people supported.
• The Islamic Courts openly communicated to the world that they have Somali agenda. As a Somali movement, the courts want to restore law and order in the areas that are controlled by the warlords by using Islam.
• The Islamic Courts believe that, since all Somalis are Muslims, Islam is the solution to the problems of the Somalis. It transcends clan boundries which divided Somalis for too long
• Linking the good name of the courts with terrorism is based on fabricated and self-serving intelligence by warlords and Ethiopians.

NB: Any one who can not respond intelligently should hold his/her emotions.

Thanks

Posted by: Ahmed Gurey at December 16, 2006 02:20 AM (xAgcV)

27 Mohammed Gory:


Somalian paridiseland? Civilization? You crack me up. I think you meant fantasyland and savagery.


"Infidels" live in holes full of pig shit. Very witty. You sure told him.


I honestly wouldn't have believed a human being could be so stupid, until I read your comment. I didn't even think an islamopithecine subhuman could be that stupid.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 16, 2006 06:52 AM (bLPT+)

28 Ahmed Girly:

Somalia's islamic "courts" haven't commited violence against any innocents. I guess those children and nuns had it coming.


The islamic "courts" were created with Al Qaeda's help to seize power and tyrannize the population. Any who oppose them are murdered.


There is no such thing as islamic law and order. Every islamic society on the planet is a barbaric, violent, shit-hole--and they always have been.


The islamic "courts" believe islam is an effective tool to gain power.


The self serving terrorist "courts" don't have a good name, they are reviled throughout the civilized world as despicable fascists.


The only difference between the regular warlords and the islamic "court" warlords is that the islamopithecines want to export their violence.


Somalia has no chance of beating Ethiopia, but once the terrorists inevitably try to spread their savagery to Kenya, we'll really see an ass whipping. The Kenyans and their British trained troops will crush the wimpy little islamopithecine Somalis.


By the way, there was absolutely nothing intelligent about your deceitful little screed. You're a genuine Somali like Jamil Hussein is a genuine police captain.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 16, 2006 07:09 AM (bLPT+)

29 Omar Gaalkiye: Since you have decided to call names I would like for niggers like you to understand that this is an American blog. That is why I refer to it as we. A computer is something a Somali muslim piece of dog shit like you could not understand how to make. You backward monkeys couldn't even make a light bulb or a ball point pen. You act proud. Proud of what. You are a nothing people. I do not want you to come here because you are savages and smell bad. To show your ignorance you refer to the cowardly attack on a small unit of Americans who came to aid in peace. Something your ugly animal people don't understand. To prove you are animals you drag the bodies of the dead through your streets. How brave. How stupid you monkeys are to believe you could ever fight and win against your betters. You are still just a bunch of savage jungle bunnies. Nothing more. We don't want you filthy bastards in America. You stink to bad and your people are ugly. So how's that asshole.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 16, 2006 08:24 AM (95kFq)

30 Tried to think of something Somalia has done for the good of the world. Nothing, simply nothing. Waste of space. Waste of air. Just a waste. Can these ignorant people even feed themselves? Doubt it. Let the muslims have them. Just a bunch on nothings sitting around with flies crawling all over their faces. They look like shit so the flies are drawn to them.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 16, 2006 08:42 AM (95kFq)

31 Jeff Bargholz,

Boast as much as you like dude. I have came across bigoted racist fuckheads like you who are nothing but pussies in real combat situations.

Personally the American and the Somali people have no animosity or hate towards each other. The problem is that the U.S. government thumbs its nose of every one else's business instead of minding its own.

Fuckhead Jeff, how do you know that the UIC are vile terrorist fuckheads like you? Where did you get your info? If you think you are a man and Somalis are pussies then I would advise you to take next plane to Mogadishu where you will find out who is the real pussie in here... fucking cock sucker retard.

Davec,

You seem to be pretty respectable fella, however, please educate your self and do pretty through research before you comment a country that I believe you do not know much about. And I wish that the US government and its proxies would leave Somalia alone so that we can get on with our lives.

Posted by: Said Barre at December 16, 2006 04:10 PM (+0iD3)

32 Said Fairy:


How am I a racist and a bigot? Sosmallies have earned my contempt, and the contempt of the civilized world. Are you implying they're contemptible becuase they're  mulattoes? If so, you're the racist and bigot.


Your juvenile boasting is a perfect example of why Sosmallies live like vicious, unruly, stupid children. The entire country is a "Lord of the Flies" style dystopia. That's what happens when you have a nation with an average IQ of 70 or below.


Your IP address is from America, not Somalia, so feel free to show me a "real combat situation." I'm in the phone book. We can always use more scarecrows here in Nebraska, scrawnbones.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 16, 2006 05:48 PM (bLPT+)

33 Said Barre:
What do I need to know about Somalia? I can tell you what will happen to Somalia, now they've elected a radical ideology to take charge.
1. You will no longer have a history, anything you accomplished before Islam will be purged, including music, art and your customs -- this happened to Afghanistan, thousands of years of customs purged.

2. Anyone who refuses to give up the customs, sing the old songs to their children, continues to do things the somali way will be decapitated, or "mercifully" shot in the skull.

3. The Mufti's/Mullah's will ban Khat, and tell you this isn't the islamic way, this will be pushed as an improvement, that they did away with drugs (but will kill dealers, and users a like to do it)

4. The ruling body will swan around in BMW's, and Toyota trucks and live in luxury compounds, the average Somali will not even have sewage disposal, or running water.

5. Women will be banned from medical treatment, or attending schools, women will have a social status of an animal, and will be treated by men as property, barbaric Islamic customs such as female genitalia mutilation will be come the norm, as will females being forced into Burka's.

6. Anyone who does not seem pious, or does not follow Islam, anyone who rejects the "authority" of the Mullah's religious law will be killed (perhaps the U.N will build you a soccer stadium to carry out the executions in? bonus!)

Yeah, lets embrace that change.

Posted by: davec at December 16, 2006 07:50 PM (yaQM4)

34 The above is proof that we should not be allowing these ignorant Somalis in our country. If their country is so great why are they coming here? They don't come here to be Americans. They come for the dollar. They offer nothing in return except complaints. I agree with the Somalis. Leave them alone and get the ones here out of our country. They will never be real Americans. Screw them. Let the muslims enslave them. They are to stupid to know the difference. The entire population of Somalia isn't worth the death of one American.
 
 
 
 
And yes I am a racist. Whenever I see the films of Somali monkeys dragging the bodies of white people through their dirty streets I am reminded of why I am a racist.
 
 
Who are you Somalis to speak for the American people. All the American people I know think Somalis are backward savages who haven't the brains to feed themselves. Rightly so.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 16, 2006 08:03 PM (95kFq)

35

One more thing. The warlords you Somali idiots cry about are Somalis. Not Americans. Who is in the warlords gangs of thugs? Somalis, Not Americans. Who is killing and staving and raping the Somali people? Somalis, not Americans. I'm sick of you animals blaming my country for what you dumbasses to do yourselves.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 16, 2006 08:11 PM (95kFq)

36 Jeff,

I was very hessitant to respond to you initially, but I decide to go ahead any way for the sake of exposing the truth!

If the nun you are talking about is sister Leonella, she was a friend of the UIC and a fluent speaker of Somali. He was serving the Somali people for many years. As reported worldwide, the UIC condemned the criminal act and arrested two suspects immediately.

It turned out the nun was slain by warlords who wanted to label the UIC as terrorists and to show that Mogadishu was not save (unfortunately, with CIA money!). See the BBC link below:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/5353850.stm

I do not know what children you are talking about but I can tell you that it is well known that nuns, monks, women, and children cannot be killed in Islam even during compat! How can it ever be possible that a practising Muslim kills this people in cold blood? Impossible!

Sorry, as a practising Muslim believer, I do not insult, swear, or use profane language!

Thanks
Ahmed

Posted by: Ahmed Gurey at December 17, 2006 08:21 AM (xAgcV)

37 Ahmed Gurey:

You are too nice on these father-fucker KKKs! You are a nice, pious, righteous Muslim, I am not! let me have their yankee ass. UICman, you are way too soft and "intellectual"! Get religious and intellectual somewhere else my dear! These bunch of ass-holes do not have any intellect! These Devil-shorshiping pig-humping shit-licking bitches do not have any morale! I can get low with them! Go with your high morale ground argument somehere else buddy!

Greychicken, Jeff bargirlz, Devil, Rusty Shackle-folded, or whatever stupid name you have, you have no minds! Just asses!

Posted by: Omar Gaalkiye at December 17, 2006 10:12 AM (xAgcV)

38 Gaalkiciye, I like the way you correct their disgusting names. Very funny.

By the way, these are a disgrace to the American Society. They are fringe of the fringe of society. I am lucky to know that these stinky welfare bums do not represent the American society! These are cyberpussylords!

Americans in general are tolerant, peace-loving people. More than eight million Muslims live in America. Do not be misled by these assholes. These no-minders think that they are helping America, but they are giving bad name! These hate-mongering, drug addict, school-drop-outs are misrepresenting the great American society.

Posted by: Mohamed Gure at December 17, 2006 10:25 AM (xAgcV)

39 Oh, one more thing Greychicken, Jeff bargirls, Devil:

There is one more thing I want to tell you about these skinies: They are called the TTT, as opposed to the KKK! That is, the Tall Three-leg Taliban! They are called three-leg because their cock is so big and long that they can use it as a third leg to walk on, when they are horny! When they see KKK ass-holes like you they really become savages, animals, monsters..you know better. They do not only behead KKKs, bu they also devour their asses with their third leg!

Never venture into Somalia.

Continue in you current hateful, profane, flea-ridden, stinky life. Keeping collecting welfare and spend your time Muslim-bashing instead of working or studying!

Ahmed Gurey might care, but I do not give damn!

Posted by: Omar Gaalkiye at December 17, 2006 11:40 AM (xAgcV)

40 Mohamed Gure:
Americans in general are tolerant, peace-loving people.
Until push comes to shove, Buddy.
September 10th 2001 was the last day American's are going to take a radical Islamic Government, because they breed terrorism, and create safe havens for America's enemies.

Posted by: davec at December 17, 2006 12:02 PM (yaQM4)

41 Omar:
They do not only behead KKKs, bu they also devour their asses with their third leg!

I don't think Somali's are quite as homo as Arabs, but funny reply non the less.

Posted by: davec at December 17, 2006 12:47 PM (yaQM4)

42 Bravo Omar Gaalkiye and Mohamed Gure for your response to these welfare collecting, easily brainshed, bum low lifes. I guess they represent a fringe in our American Society.

Grey girly chicken,
You do not own and represent America. This is our country as well and we are here to stay, so get use to it or die trying it. But again, a bum like you with a brain of a leg horn thinks America belongs to the white man. By the way you seem to be the dumbest racist fuck head I have come across yet.

Davec,
You do not know what you talking about so do not even try it. The future of Somalia is brighter than ever. Your evil grim prediction is nothing more than the scare tactics that will not amount to nothing.

Jerk bigoted asswhole,

Sure I'm in America and you will hear from me pretty soon...Just watch your stinky rear end.

Posted by: Siad Barre at December 17, 2006 02:41 PM (T43Lo)

43 Stupid ass muslim says impossible for muslimes to kill women or children. Dumb asses. So you think the World Trade Center had only men working in it. Airplanes hijacked only have men in them. Market places in Israel only have men in them. You stupid lying bunch of monkeys. Back to your trees where you belong. Animals is what you are. Always talking about screwing in asses. Hey! I just discovered why Somali muslims are the same color as shit. They don't know what hole to screw in. Just stupid animals. Nothing more.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 17, 2006 03:18 PM (95kFq)

44 Oh yea! You are also an ugly people. Sitting in the dirt with flys around your nasty heads. Why? Because Somali Muslims do not know what a bath is. You are a nothing people. You produce nothing. Invent nothing. You dumb bastards are to stupid to build anything. Everything you use comes from another country. All you can do is copy other people. You even must use other peoples languages to comunicate. Talk in your own language you filthy muslims. Quit copying others. Dress in your own stupid backward clothing and quit copying the west. Stay out of the civilized world. Stay in your own stinking country. Animals. Just ugly animals.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 17, 2006 03:26 PM (95kFq)

45 UN refugee agency indicated that more than 22,000 Somali migrants that started their adventurous voyage from the port city of Bosaso in the Somalia’s semiautonomous region of Puntland have penetrated Yemen in past three months. Those Somalis have reportedly reached Yemen by 188 fishing boats, which were threatened by horrendous sea waves.

Yes, where is the jobs that the ICU bring? why are people going to other countries?

NAIROBI, Kenya, Nov. 30 - Suicide bombers, including possibly a veiled woman, attacked the transitional government of Somalia on Thursday, killing at least five people and edging the country even closer to war

Look Islam brings peace, and suicide bombings!!


The Islamic Courts officials in the Somali capital Mogadishu explained about an ongoing operation of collecting weapons that were in the hands of ordinary people and business people.
Earlier Islamists issued a decree ordering all heavily armed

Take everyone's weapons, then they can't fight us!!

The United Nations today launched a $237-million humanitarian appeal for Somalia for 2007 to alleviate the suffering of 1.8 million people, including 1.4 million chronically hungry and 400,000 internally displaced, as the war-torn country reels from the triple blow of continued fighting, drought and devastating floods.

Wait, best ask the United Nations, what that cash is for, Somalia is a paradise!

Mujahideen are observed carrying the flag of the ICU. The propaganda film also shows the training of the fighters, glorification of the Emir of al-Qaeda, Usama bin Laden, and interviews with the Islamic poet, Abshir Bacadle, and a female Mujahida.

ICU glorifies Al-Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden -- they're both the same. I say cancel any humanitarian aid to Somalia, the ICU & Bin Laden can take care of you?

Posted by: davec at December 17, 2006 04:40 PM (yaQM4)

46 Ahmed Girly:


"How can it ever be possible that a practising Muslim kills this people in cold blood? Impossible!"


Bwah, ha, hah! The idiots here defending the terrorists in Somalia are the dumbest dumbfucks I've ever encountered in my life! You guys are hilarious!


The nun was murdered by muslim savages. (Is there any other kind?) Of course the UIC (Useless Islamic Cunts,) blamed the other warlords. They blame them for everything. I guess it was those "warlords" who murdered the nun because they were angry about the muhammad cartoons. Fanatic islamopithecines never go apeshit over cartoons of their child molester, sex offender, prophet pretender--little muhommosexual--pig grease be upon him.


Keep it up. We're all laughing at you dorks.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 17, 2006 05:59 PM (bLPT+)

47 Amen and Amen. Impossible for muslims to kill women and children. BIGGEST LIE EVER TOLD.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 17, 2006 06:43 PM (95kFq)

48 Siad Barre: You stupid monkey. How can this be your country too. You have done nothing to deserve to be here. You and your people are nothing but welfare scum. To ignorant to make a living in your stupid backward country. So you had to come here and live off your betters. Back to your tree monkey. You are nothing but a cancer on civilazation. Soon we will be getting rid of your kind. You talk about dying. We'll see when decent people realize what you scum really are. Muslimes are cowards. You know it. I know it and the world knows it. This country wasn't founded by or for trash like you muslime bastards. Go back to your silly, backward, stupid, uncivilized people. You are not welcome here. Piss on Mohammed and Piss on Somali muslims.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 17, 2006 06:53 PM (95kFq)

49 Omar Girlyguy:


_{"You are too nice on these father-fucker KKKs! You are a nice, pious, righteous Muslim, I am not! let me have their yankee ass. These Devil-shorshiping pig-humping shit-licking bitches do not have any morale! I can get low with them! You have no minds! Just asses! They do not only behead KKKs, bu they also devour their asses with their third leg! Continue in you current hateful, profane, flea-ridden, stinky life. Keeping collecting welfare and spend your time Muslim-bashing instead of working or studying!"}


Your primitive, juvenile replies are hilarious! Thanks for showing exactly why the world laughs at Sosmalli pedophiles. Even by Third World standards, Sosmallis are a backwards joke.


You seem to be hung up on big dicks and asses. I guess they go together in Sosmallia. Do you prefer big ones? Is that why Sosmallis are so scrawny? Do they prefer big dicks instead of food? Are they on the all-semen diet? No wonder all the pigs in Sosmallia wear burkas, and the goats wear lipstick. Is that why Sosmallis recruit young boys to their islamic gangs? They prefer boys to women?


You can take the monkey out of the jungle, but you cant take the jungle out of the monkey. You've proven that. You felch sucking shitmongers couldn't catch up to the stone age if you had a one million year head start. Only mental defectives and slaves convert to islam. Your Arab masters have trained you well. You don't even have your own names anymore. You have to use hawkena Arab names now.

_{"Never venture into Sosmallia."}


I guess I'll have to cancel my vacation plans. I was looking forward to the insects, rocks, and filth, but I guess I'll just have to settle for Hawaii or the High Sierras.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 17, 2006 06:57 PM (bLPT+)

50 Mohomo Girly:


"More than eight million Muslims live in America."


Yes, and islam is a religion of peace, muslims bathe regularly, and Sosmallis are tough guys.


Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil Sosmalli cowards. It takes a real genius to become a refugee. I guess you're the Einstein of the islamopithecines. Oh, wait, I forgot. There have nevr been any islamic or African Einsteins. Plenty of dim-witted savages though.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 17, 2006 07:03 PM (bLPT+)

51 Greychicken:

Muslims have more followers thank KKKism in America! You are the ones to go! Islam is the second religion as well as the fastest growing religion in America. Imams like Sheikh Hamza Yusuf and Siraj wahaj are welcome any time in the Whitehouse; you are not! actually, no KKKer is! You hide behind a white mask while Muslims pray in public stadiums in America. There are Muslim congressmen who proudly take oath on the Koran inside the congres. Who is the KKKer who can swear KKK style in the congress?

You know what, much of sharia law is already applied among Muslims in the USA! Does that make you really mad? You cannot do anything; therefore, you might as well commit suicide.

Patriotic democrats will win next presidential elections (Amricans have shown their preferences during the last elections). More Muslims will gained political power, commensurate with numerical, economic, and educational power they already have in America. America might as well have a Muslim president in 2012! Just wait and watch if you are not in jail or kicked out of America by that time.

In short, Muslims have bright future globally and in USA in particular. KKKer losers have no future in the civilized world! they are endangered species! Get more education than hatred and use of foul language!

Posted by: Mohamed Gure at December 17, 2006 07:05 PM (xAgcV)

52 Sad Girly says:


_{"Jerk bigoted asswhole, Sure I'm in America and you will hear from me pretty soon...Just watch your stinky rear end."}


Why, are you going to nibble the Nebraskan corn out of it? Americans use toilet paper for that.


You don't belong in a civilized country, much less the greatest country ever. We don't need animals like you to flip our burgers and clean our toilets.


Stop by any time, pussywhip.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 17, 2006 07:08 PM (bLPT+)

53 Jeff Bargirlz:

"There have nevr been any Islamic or African Einstein."

Funny eh, that is what I mean when I say "get more eduaction than how to use hate and use foul language"!

First of all, Einstein was closer to Islam than KKKism.

Second, if you had not droped out before finishing your K-12 you would have known that present science is originally Muslim invention. You would have known, for example, that Einstein would not have been able to do anything without Muslim invented Algebra! In fact, you would have recognized that today's science and technology would have collabsed if Muslim invented algebra is withdrawn or unlearned, if you have the brain to understand a bit of what I explaining!

Third, were the pharoahs who built the unresolved scientifically mysterious pyramids white trash KKKers? HELL NO! They were Africans

Get educated to get lost!

Posted by: Mohamed Gure at December 17, 2006 07:27 PM (xAgcV)

54 davec:

You seem to be bit different from the rest of colobus monkey, leprosy-ridden KKKs. At least you are trying to argue (though ignorantly) rather than shitting!

Just one advice: Do not believe whatever you read or hear in the media! Somalia does not need any KKK aid! Give this aid to the millions of homeless in your backyard, including yourself, bargirlz, and greychicken!

Posted by: Omar Gaalkiye at December 17, 2006 08:01 PM (xAgcV)

55 Greychicken:

Yell ver loudly "OUTLAW ISLAM"..BLAH BLAH...WE HA WE HI WE, like a pig passing air!

Who would listen to you? Who even knows you colobus monkey!

We are more worthy to Amrica than you! You get out of your country to hell with Hitler.

Posted by: Omar Gaalkiye at December 17, 2006 08:17 PM (xAgcV)

56 Mohamad Gure: Monkey man I am far more educated than you or any of your ignorant muslim countrymen. As far as education goes. That is another thing you animals copy from us. Like everything else. Nothing but another ghetto rat. Muslims are nothing but shit. Somali muslims look like shit, smell like shit, and eat shit. You come here to a nation based on Christian principles because your society is a failure. Same as muslims are a failure. Everything you say is bullshit. You animals are allowed here and there because we wish to keep an eye on you. Why? Because we know you and your religion is no good. Why don't you get your education in Somalia? You could finish the highest level there in two days. Get out of this country. Take your filthy ass back to where you come from. You are a cowardly dirty people not wanted here. Go back monkey. Back to your tree. OUTLAW ISLAM.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 17, 2006 08:38 PM (95kFq)

57 You stupid black muslims can only copy from Arabs and then you claim to be one of them. Bullshit. The arabs who are responsible for what little muslims have contributed to the world are not black muslims. Arabs put you monkeys in chains and sold you into slavery. Stupid black muslim. They are still doing it today. All you Somali assholes can do is copy other people because you are lower on the evolutionary scale. Perhaps in another million years you idiots will catch up to real civilization and not have to copy everything you are from other people. Back to your tree. OUTLAW ISLAM.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 17, 2006 08:43 PM (95kFq)

58 Omar,
I find it ironic you go back to 813 to tell us about the Islamic accomplishments, and telling us how uneducated Europeans and Americans are -- over a Personal Computer (IBM) with a CPU (Intel) most likely running Windows (Microsoft) with a TCP/IP stack (DARPA) transmitted via Ethernet(Xerox PARC) most likely over a switch, to a router (CISCO) that is output to HTML (Tim Berners-Lee) to your Browser.


I don't want to give Somalia any aid, not a single dime! I think we should have a total trade embargo with Somalia, no U.S corporation provided services, nor U.S manufactured technology transfers, nothing, not so much as a bag of nails. so you're with me on that.

By the way, were the Pharaoh's Muslim?

Posted by: davec at December 17, 2006 10:47 PM (yaQM4)

59 Mohomo Girly:


Islame is neither the second largest nor fastest growing religion in America. Not even close. It isn't even a religion, it's a cult. There are more Wiccans and Scientologists in America than islamopithecines, and there always will be.


Eventually Americans will lose their tolerance of you cockroaches, and exterminate your infestation of  the country.


President Bush invites imams to the White House so nobody can claim he's anti-Islamopithecine. Meanwhile, he's having hundreds of thousands of them slaughtered in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's a public relations ploy, Einstein.


Meanwhile, Robert KKK Byrd has been the Grand Dragon of the Democrats in Congress for decades.


Islamopithecines pray in stadiums and planes because we let them do it. If they get out of line, they get their asses kicked and they're forcibly evicted. You know that. You sure as Hell wont see a koranimal praying in public here in Nebraska. They won't even look you in the eye here, because we don't put up with their monkeyshines.


The Congressman you mentioned is not a muslim, he's a Black Supremacist. He's a member of the Nation of Islam, not the religion of islam. Real mustards consider the NOI to be heritics. Even so, he will never be reelected, and he is a pariah in his own political party. There is no application of sharia "law" in America, and there never will be.


Only 35 million people out of a population of 300 million voted for the Dhimmiecrats. The election was decided by those who stayed home. After 2 years of Dhimmiecrat stupidity, the people will put Rudy Gulliani in office, and he will ravage the islamic world.


Does this make you feel frustrated? There's not a damn thing you can do about it. You might as well kill yourself by challenging an "infidel" to combat.


You stupid koranimals have no economic, political, and especially no educational power in America, despite the ongoing jihad by CAIR and the other domestic terrorist groups. In fact, you dogs are being singled out as invaders, and your time here is limited.


Meanwhile, America is crushing the wimpy islamotard terrorists around the world. Iran and Syria are going to be overthrown before Bush leaves office--and you know it. Islamopithecines have become an endangered species of animal, and America will continue to slaughter them by the millions.


Too bad. So sad. Don't cry.



By the way, you raging ignoramus--algebra was devised by an Indian mathematician, and the filthy koranimals squatting on his country took the credit for it. All of the scientific achievments dishonestly claimed by islam were achieved by the conquered peoples--peoples who have since thrown out the filthy islamopithecine invaders.


It's a moot point, because "present science" is not based on algebra.


37 years ago, American were striding to the moon like Gods, while you koranimals lived in mud huts. You koranimals still live in mud huts. Every major scientific achievement of the last century was an American acheivement. Electricty, the light bulb, the telephone, television, air condoitioning, refrigeration, cars, planes, purified water, modern plumbing, and everything that koranimals want but cant produce themselves. These are the greatest scintefic ahiements in all of history.


Oh yeah. There's one more I didn't mention. Atomic bombs. We have em, we've used 'em, and we're gonna use 'em again--on you bugs.


You retards have contributed nothing to the world but baby killing, daughter and mother killing, gang rapes, human bombs, cowardice, body odor, ignorance, incompetence, ingratitude, and abject stupidity. Some accomplishment.


The engineers who designed the Pyramids were white Egyptians, and the people who built them were Jews. Neither koranimals nor Arabs existed at the time, you fucking, shit-for-brains imbecile.


If you weren't such a racist piece of shit, you'd know that not all Africans are Black, and they never have been. You're hung up on race because you're a bigot.


The vermin calling themselves Egyptians nowadays are diseased invaders from the Arabian Peninsula--which is why that debased country is a shit-hole, just like every other koranimal lair.


You and the other Sosmallis commenting here are without a doubt the stupidest, most ignorant mutants I've ever encountered. Even by islamopithecine standards you're severely retarded.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 18, 2006 12:17 AM (bLPT+)

60 Girly Grey chicken cunt,

Who built the Pyramids you redneck, dumb ass, fuck head, white trash? It was not Arabs but Pharoahs aka Somalis... go and read you scumbag pig shit eating. By the way since you can not fuck your women how do you like to watch my monkey 16 inch cock slid your bitch's cunt if you got one or your sister and once I'm done I insert a broom up in your tight kkk ass you mother fucker.

Girly Grey chicken cunt, why do not you go back to what ever shit whole white trash country you came from since America is Indian land you fucking dumb ass...


Jerk bigoted cunt,

I bet you have been molested and raped by a priest... As far as I know it is only Christianty especially in America that is associated with Pedophilia...Did you forget what happened in Chicago and Boston but again since you the lowest of low and you do not either read or know any thing about your next door nieghbor you may not know what I'm talking about...


I guess there is no point in talking to you retards... It is better to spend my time on something useful... Hasta luega ...Auvior...ala prochain.. I guess none of you ceast pools would understand any of these expressions.

Posted by: Said Barre at December 18, 2006 01:43 AM (ZcN+K)

61 Gaakiciye and Barre:

Your are right Said Barre, I am not even addressing myself any more to these mindless KKKers. They are very very very stupid dickheads! They are not even able to read and understand our posting! So why waste our time?

Gaalkiciye, I realize your name means KKK-expeller. Right? OK, I need your advise: when we are elected to rule the United States in the near future, I think we will have to deport these venomous anti-humans. OK, if you agree with me, where shall we deport them to? No country will accept them.

You might argue: Put them in the Caucasus mountain caves, where their neanderthal ancestors lived. They can identify with that culture. They will recognise the drawings on the cave walls and they will be happy.

I would respond to you: No Omar. I agree that is where they might originate. I also agree that is their race. Can you see, like the neantherthals, they possess only very very limited vocabulary--fuck, shit, swear, insult, hate, such primitive, animalistic instincts. That is it! Nonetheless Gaalkiciye, Caucasia is a Muslimland now. No Muslim can accept to live with these anti-humans. Shall we put them in the Island of Grotta D'inverno? what do you think? We shall see. We still have time to discuss.

Posted by: Mohamed Gure at December 18, 2006 02:47 AM (xAgcV)

62 I laughed a lot after reading your last posting Gure. It seems like you are have fun pissing on these garbage dumps!

Somali guys, let us all focus on something useful.

Nabadgelyo

Posted by: Omar Gaalkiye at December 18, 2006 02:55 AM (xAgcV)

63 Simian Bare-ass:


Sosmallis built the Great Pyramid? Is that why they live in mud huts and crap in the corners? All you Sosmallis working together couldn't build a bad case of hemorrhoids. Homo habilis was a better builder.


Your sophomoric bragging about penis size and imaginary sexual prowess reflects your Stone Age mentality. 10 year old Americans are more sophisticated in their boasts. They probably have bigger dicks, too. Anybody who brags about being a stud has an impotent needle-dick. If you have a 16 inch dick, spit it out, because it aint yours.


You need to go back to your shithole country, because the American Declaration of Independence and Constitution weren't written by Indians, and the Indians migrated here the same as everybody else. Unlike refugee pussies like you, they fought for their right to live here. You're just a scum sucking parasite living off the accomplishments of your betters. You left Scumalia because it's the butthole of the world, but you don't belong here.



Yes, I know you live in America. No sub-literate cretin like you would have access to a computer in Scumalia. The only reason you know how to access the internet at all is because you were taught how by the Americans you sponge off of.


I'm not Catholic, but you sound jealous. Do you miss the serial pedophilia in Scumalia? Buggering boys is an integral part of islamic "culture," but it's a crime in America. So is rape, which is another islamopithecine standard. My neighbors don't molest boys, but you seem to know your neighbors well. All Sosmalli boys, no doubt.


You got your welfare check on Friday, so you'll probably be broke on Monday. I assume having something better to do means jerking off to internet porn. Boy porn, naturally. Maybe while you're online, you can look up the translation of "goodbye" in a few more languages. Bencong. Le peuf. Joto. Chango.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 18, 2006 04:28 AM (bLPT+)

64 You Somali niggers forgot another one. Adios mother fucker. Now these monkey men are claim the achievements of the Egyptians. They take the religion and dress of Arabs. Then everything else they copy from the white western world. Somalis are not a people. The are merely imitators like all monkeys. They cannot even be considered to be human as human create things, think of things, invent things, product things. Animals do not and Somalis do not. These monkeys should be in the cotton fields. What other good are they. 

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 18, 2006 08:52 AM (95kFq)

65 Who built the Pyramids you redneck, dumb ass, fuck head, white trash? It was not Arabs but Pharoahs aka Somalis...

It was neither the Pharoahs nor the Somali's, the Pharaoh was the name reserved for the ruler of Egypt, unless you mean "The Pharoahs" which is Eygpts national soccer team, but they did not build the pyramids either.
Somali's didn't build the pyramids, unless they were slaves, under the whip, dragged away from Somalia in a slave convoy?

Anything else you guys discovered, created or designed you want to claim credit for? space shuttle? westminister abby? dna?

Posted by: davec at December 18, 2006 10:44 AM (yaQM4)

66 That's quite a regression. From building great  pryamids to building mud huts.
 
I hope those who don't fully understand these muslims. Look at the posts above and you will see their main purpose. It is not being apart of a free, progressive country.
 
QUOTES ABOVE: "When we are elected to rule the United States in the near future"
 
"Sharia law is already applied among muslims in the USA".
 
 
"Sure I'm in America and you will hear from me pretty soon... just watch your stinky rear end." That comment was at least honest. Muslims always attack from the rear.
 
Listening carefully you can tell what these monkeys are about.
Why I say OUTLAW ISLAM.
 
Their is really only one difference between countries. The people. America is rich and decent and just because it contains Americans.
 
Somalia is a shit hole, ugly, dirty, corrupt, filthy and backward because it is inhabited by Somalis. Why do we allow these monkeys in our country? They offer nothing. They bring nothing but a desire to copy our achievements. Once we educate them enough for them to realize they haven't got what it takes to be like us they become jealous of us. Let these ignorant animals educate themselves. Also they are an ugly people. Dog ugly.
 
OUTLAW ISLAM

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 18, 2006 07:23 PM (SWRDR)

67 Davec:

Somalia does not need your aid! Somalis are suffering because you looted their resources. Don't you know that you are the citizen of the most indepted country in the world? You survive on what you on the booty you collect from deffenseless countries. On the countrary, many of us Somalis collected aid and sent it to New Orleans when you did not only forgot your fellow citizens, but you also killed them, looted them, and raped them while they were being battered by Catherina on the other cheek!

As for your fart regarding tecnology: Do you know what would happen to your PC if Muslims take back their cypher? No more ICT, if you can understand what that means. By the way Mogadishu has more cypercafes than your average same size town. ICT is much cheaper too. Get real!

Posted by: mareykanwasse at December 19, 2006 01:04 AM (DZnsA)

68 mareykanwasse:
Can you read?
The United Nations today launched a $237-million humanitarian appeal for Somalia for 2007 to alleviate the suffering of 1.8 million people, including 1.4 million chronically hungry and 400,000 internally displaced, as the war-torn country reels from the triple blow of continued fighting, drought and devastating floods.
Nothing would happen to my PC. but thanks for playing, though the scary thought of Muslims hitting me with a digital koran 'suicide bomb' nearly made my pants - not.
I personally am jealous I don't get to hang out at a 'cyber cafe' that smells of Yak's piss, and B.O with a bunch of Somali's but here we don't pay a weeks wages to surf the net, we just buy computers and an ISP, and we don't live in houses made of dry cattle turds and sticks either.
Show me documentation that the U.S looted anything from Somalia, last time i checked we were bringing you food, because you were all starving, you guys are liars,
and pretty much anyone with a brain cell knows it.

Posted by: davec at December 19, 2006 02:21 AM (yaQM4)

69 monkeywassee: Mogadishu has cypercafes because of no taxes. Nothing more. Those that killed,looted and raped in New Orleans were blacks. The ones that did the killing a rapes where blacks. That is another reason we don't wish for anymore blacks to immigrate here. Get it right muslim. I know. I was one on the bridges with by automatic shotgun to keep them from my community.
 
After a few days conversations with these Somali Animals we can decide they are no better than any other muslims. Just liars, uneducated monkeys who haven't said one truth on this thread. Sending aid to New Orleans. Who would need cow dung and flies. That all they have to offer.
 
THE BEST THING TO TO WITH SOMALI MUSLIMS IS KICK THEM OUT OF AMERICA AND THE WEST THEN HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM. LET MOTHR NATURE TAKE IT'S COURSE.
 
 
OUTLAW ISLAW.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 19, 2006 07:52 AM (SWRDR)

70 Bargirlz, Greychicken:

I see you dancing around and celebrating because you thought I left! You are dead wrong! I am still here to expose your ugly neanderthal tail again! No cause to celebrate yet little anti-human rats!

Bargirlz, you call me nigger! But how come your sister calls me Tiger? What is the difference? I guess it is my third leg! The solution may be to take you as my second wife! When you see my 3rd leg, you will be compelled to call me brother! You will then drag your buddy Greychicken, the other colobus monkey, by the tail to join my harem and he will call me black panther! I will the tell you: Get lost! I am not homosexual homo erectus like you! You will have to shag yourselves anti-humans!

You know, I blame those who taught you how to type and post message before educating you!If you were abused by your family and society, why are you so angry at the world? Why are you directing such anger against clean people? Are you saying why you did not stop them? We were not there to stop them. Do not blame us please!

Contrary to what your rat mind thinks, I am not a refugee! Refugees are dignified people who leave their country for higher level needs. Most refugees worldwide are obliged to flee their countries nowadays because of the policies of your warlord president.

You have rendered your country uncivilzed Bushland! Anti-humans like you including your warlord president have taken back your country to the days of New York gangs! Remember the New York Draft Riots? Or you do not know your history?

I will give you a short history lesson here, but I afraid that your primitive homoerectus mind cannot capture it! Try hard any way! You remember when your one-eyed, great, great, grandfather escaped justice in Europe because he stole a hen during the potato famine? That was around 1862, if I am not mistaken! He came to the US and your ancestor lived on what he rob or steal since then. I am obliged to expose further that your ancestors followed the footsteps of that gangster criminal whose family members died during the potato famine. That is how YOU came to America, criminal rat! If you want to know more about your history and that of your warlord president, watch your film "Gangs of New York" That is how your George Bushland was, and that is what it is becoming, cyberpussylord!

KKKism IS ALREADY OUTLAWED IN AMERICA, GREAT RELIGIONS WILL NEVER BE!

Posted by: Omar Gaalkiciye at December 19, 2006 09:39 AM (bFpCL)

71 Gure and Gaalkaciye:

As a fellow Muslim, I am very disappointed with you. Actually, I am more disappointed with you than the Jeff, Davec or Greyrooster.

These guys do not understand Islam but you do. You might not even understand Islam, but you at least have Muslim names. Why are you exchanging insults with these guys, contrary to the teachings of your religion? Why are you engaging in such despicable behaviour? You know (or at least you should) that Islam requires you to either say something good or shut up!

I am not trying to tell you what to do but at least have respect for the names you carry Omar, Mohamed...I am really shocked about the language you use my friends. Now tell me: What is the difference between your two groups? You both have called names one another. One group seems to despise pigs more while the other seems to have contempt for monkeys more! That is about it!

Posted by: Ahmed Gurey at December 19, 2006 01:18 PM (bFpCL)

72 Ahmed Gure:

In a way, you have a point buddy. OK. I admit: I have watched too many American films. On the average, there are at least 30 instances of fulgar language use in an hour-long holywood film. I have watched hundreds of them! At least some of this profane language might have corrupted me! As you are saying, in Islam, I have to say something good or shut up. I recognise that. I must admit that I am not a good Muslim, but I would definitely like to be one.

However, Sheikh Ahmed Gure, you also need to understand that this particular cyberspace is KKK den. It is not the best place to preach. I was just using a language they understand. In a way, I was actually trying to be culturally sensitive to them. I dare you Sheikh Gure, try to say good things to them. That when they will get more angry at you and behave more disrespectfully towards you. I know these guys well.

Posted by: Omar Gaalkiciye at December 19, 2006 01:56 PM (bFpCL)

73 haha a history lesson via the movie "Gangs of New York", perhaps I should watch "Planet of the Apes" for a documentary on Somalia?

Posted by: davec at December 19, 2006 02:16 PM (yaQM4)

74 Davec:

Thanks for your posting.

First of all, we Somali Muslims are very proud and we do not accept any one to dictate to us. But we are not arrogant either. No one, and I say one one can dictate to us! No, Arab, no American, no African,....no country, no friends, no foe. We just do not accept! We rather die in thousands. We are very proud (but not arrogant)and independent people. WE choose what law we choose, what kind of society, what form of government we want, etc. That is the UIC.

Islam is our religion and we apply it to our lives the way we want. Again, no one can tell us how! I do not care about what cheap proproganda is out there in the media, but we are what we are and we do not apologize a bit for it! We are Muslims, Islam is our religion, and we do not seek permission of any one in practicing it the way to see right!

Islam means emancipation from all forms of subordination except God’s. Islam would help the Muslims meet his/her lawful needs and gain internal and external harmony, synchronicity, and peace. Internal peace refers to one's psychological well-being due to lack of conflict within the self, while external peace stems from the harmonious and peaceful relationship with God and the spiritual, physical, and social environment. In the Islamic view of the purpose of life, peaceful existence in this life would lead to eternal peace in the hereafter. Thus, the UIC is not anti-American or anti-any one for that matter.

Somalia is rich in its resources and will soon stand on its feet again. The UIC policy is to be self-sufficient. Somalis are very enterpricing people. They will very soon establish a dynamic, vibrant and developed country soon.

Posted by: Ahmed Gurey at December 19, 2006 02:36 PM (bFpCL)

75 Ahmed Gurey:
You know what is ironic about that statement? the average American does not want war with Somalia, nor do we want bad things to happen to Somalis. The American people have always responded positively to countries in crisis, often giving more money than the Federal Government [in the case of the Tsunami for example] we have charities to help the people of Pakistan, ravaged by earthquakes, charities to help Afghani children have shoes, and coats for the winter and nor is the plight of Africa ignored by the West.
What America does have problems with however, is radical Islamic Governments, and their "Lords of the Flies" type "court system" and their ability to both train and attract terrorists, there are other models of an Islamic Government, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait, Jordan and UAE that the U.S has no interest in. If your Government lionizes Al-Qaeda, and Bin-Laden you have transcended from an Islamic Government, to a state sponsor of terrorism, and that puts you in the cross hairs, not the fact you are an Islamic Government.

Somalis have a choice to make, it is possible to have an Islamic Government that is peaceful, and you could be an ally of the West, like a lot of the other moderate Islamic Governments, or you could create the ICU, decapitate "apostates", train mujahideen , invite terrorists from across the globe to Somalia as a safe-haven, accept rule by elitist Arabs, and non-Somalis and become the African Taliban, it is your choice that identifies you to the American citizen: Somalia, Friend, or Foe?

Posted by: davec at December 19, 2006 02:48 PM (yaQM4)

76 Best yet. Keep out of America. OUTLAW ISLAM the religion of ignorance. These Somali idiots talk on a third grade level and actually believe they know more about history than we do. That is the sign of stupidity. To stupid to know you're stupid. So backward they can't recognize backwardness. the west doesn't neet these animals. They were to cowardly to fight for their country so send them back and let others deal with them.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 19, 2006 04:39 PM (SWRDR)

77 New York Gangs dramatizes real historical events. NW and many other major cities in the US are still ganglands. But I am concerned much about that. The chinese, japanese, etc. have these notorious gangs too. That is more local crime issue. I am more concerned about what this gangster culture has lead to. This gangster mentality and behavior infiltrated into the top leadership in American foreign policy. Allowing these gangsters to lead a big country like the US will bring about global insanity and destruction.

The sooner the American people replace this gang the better. Decapitation, mass-murder, cold-blood killing, torture Abu Ghuraib style, etc.! This gang (I almost sweared but remembered Gure's eagle eyes scrutinize!), is making the American people hide with shame.

Violence begets violence terrorism begets terrorism, global gangsterism leads to global gangsterism. That simple. I do not care about the religion or nationality of any gangster who kills innocent people.

Posted by: Mohamed Gure at December 19, 2006 09:21 PM (bFpCL)

78 Do all these gangsters wear pin-stripe suits and carry violin cases?

Posted by: davec at December 20, 2006 02:15 AM (yaQM4)

79 The KKK rooster (a little cock) keeps crying "Cock a Doodle Doo" "OUTLAW ISLAM" who knows you exist? You are an OUTLAW IN AMERICA!

Shall I also teach you who you really are and how you came to America? Shall muffle you eternally like I have done to Bargirlz? Sheikh Ahmed Gurey: Can I let him have it one more time or will that be "too profane for you" You will have the option of not reading my next posting Ahmed.

Posted by: Omar Gaalkiciye at December 20, 2006 02:18 AM (bFpCL)

80 No Davec. Just read again my posting "I do not care about the religion or nationality of...." Obviously, pin-stripe suits are not the global "national dress"! They might as well wear scull-caps, mini skirts or even turbans!

Posted by: Mohamed Gure at December 20, 2006 02:47 AM (bFpCL)

81 You keep talking about animals: cocks, monkeys, pigs, rats, etc. These animals are better than most humans, regardless of their race. These animals are the real Muslims (those who live according to God's will); they are the ones who live according to God's will.

Omar, God is watching you; I am not.

Posted by: Ahmed Gurey at December 20, 2006 03:04 AM (bFpCL)

82 Ahmed Girly:


You're a fraud. You're obviously a muslim convert posing as a Sosmalli. You're probably a white, suburban punk. You may know about the true agenda of islam, which also makes you a liar for misportraying its rapacious savagery, institutionalized deceit, racism, hatred, misogyny, homophobia and intrinsic evil.


Just for the record, dung and flies aren't rich natural resources outside of Scumalia.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 20, 2006 05:12 AM (bLPT+)

83 The deranged and juvenile comments made here by Somalis and muslims are proof positive that neither group is ready to join the human race.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 20, 2006 05:33 AM (bLPT+)

84 These goat humpers just don't get it. Their stupidity hits a all time high. For one thing you stupid monkey I am not Christian. You must be a Christian to be a member of the KKK. I know many members of the Klu Klux Klan simply because I agree with some of the truths they teach and act on. They are correct about their feelings on blacks, muslims and are incorrect concerning jews. They really don't care much about Jews anymore because their rightful hatred of the muslim pigs is growing and growing. They are far more in number and power where I live than you could possibly believe.I hope they become powerful enough to drive the muslim pigs from America. I have also noticed large groups of whites rising up in Germany, England, Australia and much of Europe. I believe the day of the muslim dog barking is soon to be over. A world without filthy muslim swill be a better world.  Only thing worse than a muslim is a black muslim. They stink like pigs and copy human being like the monkeys they are. OUTLAW ISLAM

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 20, 2006 11:19 AM (SWRDR)

85 Omar: You overrate your bullshit. You haven't gotten the best of anyone. Merely showed your ignorance. Proofing that you are nothing but a backward animal to stupid to know stupid. Muslimes like you are why I say OUTLAW ISLAM. There members are too stupid to a part of civiliazation. Now be a good little monkey and get back in your tree. Perhaps I will leave you something shiney to play with.

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The cyber jihadis from the Jihad Media Battalion have produced an animated power point presentation in support of The Islamic Courts Union of Somalia declaring jihad against Ethiopia. The Jihad Media Battalion is one of the public relations arm of the al Qaeda in Iraq umbrella organization, The Islamic State of Iraq -- although there is some question as to whether they are "official" spokesmen or not.

The 48 slide presentation is mosly a recounting of the history of Somalia. One which presents Islam as the only unifying factor in the country and the Taliban-like regime of the Islamic Courts Union as "elected" to represent the nation. In contrast, all opposition to the extremists of the Islamic Courts Union is presented as Western imperialism.

Many of the slides simply lay out facts about Somalia. Apparently, the Arab speaking world knows little of this country. Ironically, much of the information seems to come from the CIA World Factbook's entry on Somalia. Other graphics are lifted straight from this Wikipedia entry on Somalia.

The Jihad Media Battalion recently produced a video in which they claim to have shot down an F-16, killed a Mossad agent, and taken out two 'robot soldiers' in Iraq. They've also recently launched a Google guide for would be cyber jihadis.

The jihad declared by the Islamic Courts Union against its neighbors in Ethiopia is fast becoming a focal point for Salafi jihadists in the world. Both the main al Qaeda group and the al Qaeda in Iraq umbrella organization (The Islamic State of Iraq) have recently issued supportive statements of the ICU.

The ICU is known to be protecting al Qaeda operatives involved in the bombing of the US embassy in Kenya and Tanzania. While the ICU denies it, both al Qaeda and the Iranian backed Hezbollah are suspected of directly aiding them. Several recent jihadi propaganda videos from Somalia have shown foreign Arab fighters.

The 'Foreign Minister' for the ICU is an American citizen and ex-administrator at The American University in Washington, D.C., Professo Ibrahim Hassan Addow. Addow is said to be a 'moderate' in the ICU, and constantly denies that human rights abuses are systematically taking place in ICU controlled territory.

This is the last slide of the presentation before the ending credits. African Taliban child abuse.

HT: John Ryan

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1 Randman, it may be like the marxist elite elect themselves to rescue the unwashed masses. You know those kind don't really bother to consult with people who 'don't know what's good for them'.

Western elections are corrupt because to many different opinions get aired. Only one opinion matters in Islamic culture, and only one opinion matters in marxist culture. Who needs this 'freedom' crap when it just complicates things?

That's what I think they are basically doing

USA all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 14, 2006 04:11 PM (2OHpj)

2 Islamic Courts Union as "elected" to represent the nation.

Uhhhh....I thought the idea of elections was just an corrupt Western
construct foisted upon the poor Muslims who preferred to be run by a good
ole fashioned theocracy as dictated by Allah.

Posted by: Randman at December 14, 2006 04:27 PM (Sal3J)

3 Barbarous callous savages!
The only thing they understand is forces; and that is the only way to deal with them.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at December 14, 2006 04:44 PM (vixLB)

4 Child abuse?

Are you high? Somalis HATE Ethiopia. Any fake government made up of murderous former warlords who when rejected by their own poeple ally themselves with Ethiopia and hope to gain power through fooling the west into thinking the ICU is the African 'Taliban' or Al-qaida....will NEVER rule Somalia.

Read my lips...NEVER EVER!!!!!

It doesnt matter what the US does behind the scenes.

The sooner the US learns to deal with the ICU in a respectful and freindly manner, the better. These guys are NOT terrorists. That said, arab muslim entities will and should frankly support them if Ethiopia is forcing it's way into Somalian politics.

Somalia is a country divided by clan politics and their is no way former Puntlander president/ex warlord Yussuf will force his way into the south/central using Ethiopian muscle. It just will not happen. Th eUS has to give up on it's policy of trying to put dictators in place to fight so called 'Islamists'.

Posted by: Mo at December 14, 2006 04:45 PM (xfdnu)

5 I hope the United States never deals with the ICU, and further sends no financial, or humanitarian aid to Somalia while it exists.

Posted by: davec at December 14, 2006 06:47 PM (yaQM4)

6 Hassan:


Only muslims head towards crowds with bombs strapped to their bodies. The rest of us are heading in the right direction.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 14, 2006 07:28 PM (bLPT+)

7 MO:


The ICU manifestly is the African Taliban.


The US will eventually be forced deal with the ICU alright. America will be forced to wipe it out in a "respectful and friendly manner."


The US doesn't have to stop anything. You jihadist scum have to stop practicing terrorism or die. There is no third option.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 14, 2006 07:34 PM (bLPT+)

8

Hassan: How cute. You muslim bastards have been saying the same thing for years. While you kill, murder and destroy other religions symbols and holy places. Islam is a gutter religion. Only practised by those to stupid or cowardly to know better. As long as you are a muslim I do not wish to be your friend. Muslims eat shit and bark at the moon. Hope you understand where I stand on this issue. Oh yea! Muslimes are ugly.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 15, 2006 01:13 AM (vLeHe)

9 Wow, Muslims is a gutter religion, they eat shyt , bark at the moon and don't know any better?

What kind of pathetic website is this?

Sorry I visited this cult hate website mypetjawa..I didn't know better alright.

Posted by: Mo at December 15, 2006 11:41 AM (DiOvY)

10  "Wow, Muslims is a gutter religion, they eat shyt , bark at the moon and don't know any better?"
 
Pretty much sums them up...
 
Now get the fuck out of here!

Posted by: Fargo Levy at December 15, 2006 02:28 PM (R4293)

11 To Mo;

Just speaking for myself, I have no problem with someone being muslim, and practicing peacefully. Further, I appreciate the maturity of those Muslims who realize that the name 'Mohammad', is now associated with mass murder of US citizens, on US soil. The name is a killer's name. If your name is Mohammad, and your a genuinely peaceful Muslim, I'm sorry for you, and I ask you for the maturity to bear the additional scrutiny you get.

There are two things I will not tolerate as an American. Violence against my country, and subversion of my nation's Constitution.

Since Islam is practiced by huge numbers of people around the world, in a fashion that requires chanting 'Death to America', that's 'one' against you!

Since members of the so called 'moderate' American Muslim groups like MAS, and CAIR quietly seek to change US law into Sharia, that's 'two' against you!

If you support either position, by word or deed, you are an enemy of the United States of America. No exceptions. You can't complain either, because you made that choice yourself.

Some of the guys here have lost patience with the 'Yes, But!' Muslims, who are really just fifth columnists pretending to be moderate. This makes them post things out of a gut feeling of anger, and outrage. As for me, I'm saving mine up for a special occassion. The American people aren't mad yet, but they will be.

Personally, I try very hard to be polite even to the 'Yes, But!' Muslims. I think you have to give them some rope. Meanwhile there are Muslims who aren't shy about hating my country.

Then guys like me will watch you wave 'death to America' banners at a protest, and then find out where you live. Then when the people get mad, they also get your adress, your liscence plate number, and any other useful details. Maybe we will have your picture to pass out.

Don't even try to pretend this is a race issue, cause Islam isn't a race, and technically it isn't even a religion of peace, as you all like to claim. It is a political system, that obligates the worshipper to wage war in gods name. This is about you warring on US!

I hope a branch of your religion loses the rabid beasts, and revolutionaries, because we are going to find them, and you don't want to be there. This isn't a personal threat, but a prediction of things to come. For all I know, your already making a clean break from the jihadist muslims, and will be safely out of the way. I wish that for you, really I do.

If your with the enemy, I think we can both predict how that will turn out. Pick your side.

USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 15, 2006 03:24 PM (2OHpj)

12 "I think we can both predict how that will turn out. Pick your side"
 
They can't - too busy picking their noses and scratching their flea infested asses...
 
 

Posted by: Max Power at December 15, 2006 05:43 PM (PM8kH)

13 Mo:


After working for 1400 years to get the civilized world to hate you, why are islamopithecines like you upset that you've succeeded?


Islam is a vile, despicable death cult, and it will be dealt with by humanity in due time. Patience and tolerance are not infinite.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 15, 2006 10:53 PM (bLPT+)

14 Michael Weaver:

Just like a weaver bird, you are a noisy weaver. You weave lies and empty threats. When push comes to shove, do not run a away with your tail between your legs passing poisonously stinky shit! Do not fly away like a weaver bird crying "I am afraid to be beheaded by Muslims." No one beheads your likes because you are not a real man! You are a pussy and ugly weaver bird hiding behind cyberspace!

Have a nice weaving and chanting empty threats!

Posted by: Mohamed Gure at December 16, 2006 08:01 AM (xAgcV)

15 Now if american kids were seen with guns like that the liberals would raise a real fuss would,nt they?

Posted by: sandpiper at December 16, 2006 04:05 PM (S97cI)

16 Mohomo Girly:


An islamopithecine lecturing an American on running away? Hilarious. No muslim has ever stood up to an American. You run as soon as the Americans show up. Terrorism and sissy ambushes are the best you dickless cowards can do. Muslims will do anything to avoid open combat with Americans. Remember, 100 Americans outfought the entire city of Mogadishu, killing more than 1000 skinnies in the process.


Somalia is a worthless shithole, and its people are a joke. If it weren't for European and American largess, you cretins would have all starved to death long ago. 

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 16, 2006 10:28 PM (bLPT+)

17 Mohamed Gure: I am waiting for the day the armies of Islam show the courage to stand and fight. All you muslim pussys together could not even whip the tiny nation of Israel. I can't wait for the day you try the big dog. Or do you backward assholes think hijacking airplanes from unarmed women and children is a manly deed? Or perhaps a muslims true courage is setting off a roadside bomb while hiding in the bushes and playing with himself. Or your truly bravest of warriors who set off bombs in markets. Yes, you muslims are a brave people. Muslims couldn't whip the girl scouts.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 17, 2006 09:13 AM (95kFq)

18 Now, before this discussion descended into insults and threats (isn't politics wonderful?) poster Mohamed suggests that the ICU will get support from Arab muslim states in the seemingly inevitable conflict. Pardon me if I'm wrong, but the slaughter in Darfur of African origin muslims by Arab origin muslims, which continues as we post,and to which the entirety of the Arab muslim world seems to be completely blind to, would lead me to question whether such "help" would be a good idea....

Posted by: eric at December 17, 2006 10:01 AM (QUQtE)

19 Thanks for the warning Micheal Weaver, or whatever you meant it as, but I will tell you one thing - my allegiance will always be to my faith and fellow believers in the one true God - those who believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the Prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered.

But I must say - I KNOW most of the people here know little to nothing about Islam. They have probably seen a plane fly into building or seen some enraged individual shouting out 'Death to America!' on TV...and maybe righly or wrongly due to how the foreign policy of your elected officials effected the lives of his and that of his family and people.

So I ask you Micheal, are you ready for a BIG long discusion and enlighment here?

Trust me, I've just finished with my university exams (fewwww) and I am in a festive mood and feeling like a million bucks

I will dedicate at least 1 hour of my time so I could get you fokes on the right track and give you a history lesson as well as current and future perspective in your outlook on Islam. And you need to know this. I am a decent individual.

Already then........


True muslims and beleivers are some maniacs who bark at the moon lol, FAR FROM IT! They are the pinicle of human spirituality and very pleasing to their God, the God of Adam and all that came after him, heaven and Earth, and all that is in between them you see.

First of all, there is NOTHING in the Quran, which prohibits man from the pursuit of knowledge and freedom. There is a clear difference between freedom and that of acting careless and even rebellious towards God's commandments and laws. The Quran actually encourages men to seek knowledge where ever it might be and learn of the laws governing the natural world (science) i.e. God's world and systems. We figured that out and came to that reason LONG before Christians did. Not only that but Quran also encourages man to think and reflect on the heavens, creatures, and the world around him when making his mind about the existence of a supreme creator since we cannot see God. Faith only reinforces the common sense of those who aren't headless of the existence of God and of the actual existence of an afterlife.

I mean one can ask himself even now, as the pagan Idol worshiping Arabs once did nearly 1500 years ago of Mohammad (pbuh), you tell me that my body will be put together atom by atom and stand for Judgment once I have been putrefied and broken down by the elements?

If you think you are living the high life righ now, know that it is completely up to God and him alone whom of his creation he chooses peace prosperity and wealth on their few days here on Earth and who he chooses for suffering. Most times than not it’s a direct consequence of a wrongdoing and a TEST especially for believers. Disbelievers are more often than not let lose and enjoy prosperity, some power and wealth in their numbered days here on earth living that elusion. They have no happy portion of the ever-lasting world to come as long as they die in that state. He (God) does as he pleases. Second, there are things God is doing which are not always as they seem. Just because you think you are living in prosperity today tomorrow you can easily end up sitting as the bum. Third, prosperity on the outer face it self might not be such a good thing for certain civilizations or peoples like you say Japan, South Korea, US.... Ancient Egypt too who were stubborn, worshiped their Pharaohs and Idols, failed to learn from Joseph and mistreated his seed and people the Israelites (including the good believers among the Children of Israel) for hundreds of years "enjoyed" prosperity and their peoples had their few days under the sun too. What became of them? What will be their fate in the Day of Judgment? What became of Ramsis the Great and the all powerful Pharaohs? Men who's power and influence in the ancient world was unmatched in their lavish courts among world leaders making fun and ridiculing (if not worse) men/prophets like Moses and oppressing the believers

I will tell you what, they are in a small glass boxes somewhere in a museum in Cairo mummyfied, having been striped even of their dignity of burial forever.
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And We made the children of Israel to pass through the sea, then Pharaoh and his hosts followed them for oppression and tyranny; until when drowning overtook him, he said: I believe that there is no god but He in Whom the children of Israel believe and I am of those who submit to Allah. [Quran 10:90]

(It was said to him): "Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)! [Quran 10:91]

"But this day We preserve thee in thy body that thou mayst be a portent (sign) for those after thee. Lo! most of mankind are heedless of Our portents (signs). [Quran 10:92]

We settled the Children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling-place, and provided for them sustenance of the best: it was after knowledge had been granted to them, that they fell into schisms. Verily Allah will judge between them as to the schisms amongst them, on the Day of Judgment. [Quran 10:93]
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Should sound familiar with some guys running around today thinking they are all powerful wrecking havoc on the world today?


You have raised some issues Micheal about the future and where we are heading here (the US and Muslims) and again, thanks for your words and time. But nothing of what is going on in the world today realy surprises me bor should it of any learned MUSLIM.

All this has been foretold and prophesized by the prophet Mohammad nearly 1500 years ago! And the learned and even the moderately learned Muslims know it too. Ask any Muslim or Arab you like who has some knowledge of the matters in Islam. More specifically it was foretold in the ahadith (sayings and warnings of the prophet) and I will get back to this later.

I can’t get into more specific detail cuz that would just take FAR too long to explain. But I will start from the beginning in a brief manner.

After shrugging off the Crusades and bringing the precious gift of knowledge to Europe, the great cities of the Islamic Empire would be brought to ruin by a force more terrible than anything the Europeans ever muster. Their libraries destroyed, their enormous wealth plundered, the empty cities stood mute in the after math of a devastation that descended upon them not from the West but from the East. The Mongol catastrophe. The Mongols were Turko-Mongolian nomads from the steps of central Asia. In the 13th century they rampaged through much of Eurasia between the Ukraine and China. It wasn’t long before they entered Islamic Persia and Iran. To these urban pampered Arabs and Muslims living in these fantastic cities complete with city lights, gardens, running water fountains, libraries, and all kinds of wealth these Mongols were a bunch of savages much like the Crusaders years before and a lot worse. When you entered the Mongol army you came with yourself and three horses and you lived of the horses. First you drank their blood, you move far enough away, you killed then you slaughter them and you eat their meat. And that is why they could go of so far and survive for so long in business of battle and conquest. That and that Terror was the Mongols principle tactic. One of the Iranians local leaders foolishly decided to kill off the emissary that the Mongols have sent and in doing that evoked the anger of the Mongols. They used this retaliatory technique of killing off entire towns, wiping them out as examples and building towers of human skulls only leaving one survivor to tell the tail to a head towns. As a result all other towns immediately give way. City after Muslim city in what was the greatest Empire in human civilization fell before them and it was only a matter of time before they reached the center of Islamic power. On February the 10th 1258 the Mongols took Baqdad putting it to the torch and killing 10,000 of its inhabitants. Mosques and libraries, the collected knowledge of centuries were all set a blaze in a matter of hours and days, might as well setting it back to the stone ages. With in less than 50 years, the Mongols seized the heart of Islamic power from the Arabs. Islamic civilization seems poised for destruction lost to posterity. Then something remarkable happened. The same guys who almost destroyed the civilization and so much of the accumulated knowledge ended up becoming Muslims themselves most of them. Now Islamic power could be held by anyone, not just the Arabs. The Mongols through open the door the great gunpowder empire to follow, the Empire of the Ottoman Turks. Islam was now set on a new course of expansion both the East and the West marching to the beat of Turkish drums. May 29th 1453 Ottomans led by Mohammed the Conqueror took over Constantinople (the new Rome) and after that led by Sulaman the Magnificent took Rhodes went as far as Vienna only being held back by poor weather and their huge canons getting stuck in the mud of no use to then on their way to Vienna. But even the great Ottoman Turk Empire (Sunni) couldn’t go as far as they would have to Europe as they had a more fierce rival just on their back door to he East, the Safavids (Shiia) undermining their every step as well as acute successional problems the end of the empire leading to it’s demise. In 1561 the man who ruled the Empire longer than any other Sultan before him or after him would for that matter died in his grand war pavilion in Segetvar (which is in Hungry now) at the age of 67. No Ottoman Sultan would ever reach his greatness. And from there, the nexcess of world power would move from the Mediterranean sea to the Atlantic Ocean and to the new world, slowly leaving the Ottomans and the Muslim world for that matter behind.

Now coming back to the ahadith and prophesy to explain the present state of the Islamic World and Even the past. It was said in the recorded ahadiths by the prophet nearly 1500 year ago that Muslims would take over Jerusalem and that was in fact done within 50 years after the death of the prophet. Islam spread far and wide like a wild fire to the dismay of Christian Europe. Places like Syria and all over the Middle East in Persia, in India and North Africa and to the east in the horn of Africa (present day Somalia) Islam spread quickly. Even the fall of Constantinople into Muslim hands was prophesized in the ahadith, which the Ottoman Turks did exactly.

But prophecy didn’t just stop and end there. To put it more gently, your book of 'Revelations' has nothing on Ahadith when it comes to prophetic tellings. It is also improtant to mention that a lot of the prophecies in the 'Bible' are very much the same or similar in the Koran/Ahadith. After all, we do beleive in Jesus the son of Marry and he truely did recieve a book of giudance from his lord for the Children of Isreal he was sent to. But I will raise that a little latter.

According to Islamic knowledge and Ahadith there would surely be lean times for Muslims to follow in to the future. It is said in the ahadith that near the end of days the Islamic community would be fractured and division stricken. They would be taken a part easily as a plate of rice being devoured by a dozen hands. That they (the Muslim community) would be weak and offer little opposition to any outside threat that would surely come their way. And when he was asked why this was so and if it was due to Muslims being small in number near the end of days, the answer was nay! And that they would be indeed great in numbers but weak in faith unlike those before them thus the reason Allah would impose this fate on them. And because of it they would be powerless to the extend that even if the wild animals were to be released on them by God they would be utterly defeated, never mind the rest of humanity Christians, Polytheists, or even the Jews. And that fate would remain in place till the coming of the Imam Mahdi, then the anti-Christ and then finally shortly followed by the second coming of Jesus Son of Marry who will kill the ant-Christ with his own two hands. After the great battle, the leader of the side opposing the Son of Marry and his army of Muslims will be killed. After the battle people will head back to their different countries and nations. A time after that, the Gog and Magog will be released and they will ransack the earth and come down from every hill killing everyone. Jesus and his followers will be saved and taken to a secure location on a mountain (No rapture of going to heaven here…not till we die and after the day of judgment anyway) while the Gog and Magog wreak havoc on the rest of the earth. After Jesus and his followers make prayers to Allah, Allah will destroy the Gog and Magog with a disease causing them to grow sours on their neck. Jesus and his righteous followers will inherit the Earth and he will lead all men on earth towards the worship of ONE GOD Allah. One who we cannot possibly see till we die in the afterlife. No one left on earth and certainly no Jew or a Christian will be able to deny him after his second coming. The ahadith say woe to those who aren’t living on Earth at that time, as the rain of Jesus as King and leader of all nations on Earth under him, with Allah’s leave, will be the best of times the Earth has ever seen. There will be a complete peace to the point that no soul will hold a single ill will towards another for a period of at least 7 years straight. Charity will be abolished, as they will be no poor left on earth. NOT EVEN ONE! People will get sick of wealth and material things and instead fall in love with prayer and God even though they are so rich and can afford all things their hearts desire under the rule of Son of Marry. Technological advancement will reach its absolute peak at that time to make people’s lives even easier than it is today. Jesus will live and rule for about a period of 40 years. And then he too will die just like any other man. After some time the Earth will fall back to corruption and sin. Creatures like the beast will appear carrying the staff of Moses on one hand and the ring of Solomon on the other marking the disbelieving people. People will be committing adultery like wild Asses then in the open and in the streets in public. No one will even remember the word or the name of God or Allah and the Koran will be lifted up from the earth and to heaven. Not a single verse will remain of the Quran on Earth or any of the Books from heaven before it i.e. Torah or the Injeel (gospel). These people left living at this time will be the worst of creation like the earlier ones around the time of Abraham and the ones just before him destroyed on Noah’s flood. They will all worship Idols openly and the Devil will command them to. It’s upon these people that the hour will come and the trumpet signaling the day of resurrection will sound. After the first trumpet by the angel Israfil is blown with Jibrael standing on his right hand and Michael at his left, all standing on Earth will drop and die. The Earth and the heavens will be destroyed. Upon the second trumpet all humanity including all starting with Adam and Eve and their family and to those last ones, which the hour came upon them, will rise out of their graves. Then it will be said to them come out for this was the day which ye have denied, go towards your lord. And the good believers and evildoers will be separated into 2 groups. All these things and more are covered in the Quran and ahadith. Muslims who aren’t headless to what is going down today are perfectly aware of what is going on in the Middle East and the world today and for that matter almost all of the Muslim world be it Somalia or what have you.

The Quran also states in a verse that one of the signs of the coming of the hour in the end of days will be the gathering of the Children of Israel out of various nations after their exile after their 2nd rejection of their covenants with Allah through Jesus.
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And We said unto the Children of Israel after him: Dwell in the land; but when the promise of the Hereafter cometh to pass We shall bring you as a crowd gathered out of various nations. (17:104 Quran)

Surely We revealed the Taurat in which was guidance and light; with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to Allah) judged (matters) for those who were Jews, and the masters of Divine knowledge and the doctors, because they were required to guard (part) of the Book of Allah, and they were witnesses thereof; therefore fear not the people and fear Me, and do not take a small price for My communications; and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the unbelievers. [5:44 Quran]

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Some terrible battles will go down first before any of the other signs i.e. the anti-Christ (Dajjal) and then Jesus shows up. It is said that this will be mainly between Muslims at one end and what was referred to as Al-Rum or the Romans (what the Christians/West were known as back then) at the other end. It is one of the main signs including the coming of the anti-Christ (Dajjal) and the return of the Son of Marry, coming of The Beast....before the hour can be established (Day of Judgment). This is mainly found in the ahadith.

Hadith

"You will make a firm truce with the Christians (al-Rum) until you and they wage a campaign against a common enemy. Then you will alight in Al-Maraj Al-Dee Thuluul. will be granted victory and great spoils. There, someone among the Christians shall say: 'The Cross has overcome! We Are Victorius' whereupon someone among the Muslims will get angry and say: ''Nay, Allah has overcome!' And will hit them. Then They(al-Rum) will break the treaty between you. then a group from the Muslims shall take up their arms and the two sides shall fall upon each other. Allah shall grant martyrdom to that group of Muslims. After that the Christians shall say to their leader: 'We shall relieve you of the Arabs,' and they shall gather up for the great battle (al-malhama). They shall come to you under eighty flags, each flag gathering 12,000 troops." [approx. 1 million]"

It should also be added that the prophet also said that the Romans (or Christains) would have 3 very positive traits, better than even the Muslims would near the end of times in ahadith.

1) They would attend to the Orphans, poor, and needy better

2) One disaster stikes, they would recover better and cope better

3) They would not let their Kings or Rules oppress them. (anyone listening to this!? This was from almost 1500 years ago)

The Quranic verses in this regard to the Day of Judgement are the following verses: (Biblical verses to follow)
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Nay, nay! but ye honour not the orphans! Nor do ye encourage one another to feed the poor! And ye devour inheritance - all with greed. And ye love wealth with inordinate love! Nay! When the earth is pounded to powder, And thy Lord cometh, and His angels, rank upon rank. And Hell, that Day, is brought (face to face),- on that Day will man remember, and what shall being mindful (then) avail him? He will say: "Ah! Would that I had sent forth (good deeds) for (this) my (Future) Life!" For, that Day, His Chastisement will be such as none (else) can inflict (89:17-25 Quran)


"The Day when the Trumpet shall be blown, and ye shall come forth in (huge) groups." (An-Naba, 18 Quran)

" And thou shalt see the angels circling around the ‘Arsh (The thrown of Allah, The Throne of Absolute Authority)." (Az-Zumur, 75 Quran)

"... And is blown the Trumpet, when lo! from the grave unto their Lord they (all) hasten." (Yasin, 51 Quran)


"When the heavens cleave asunder, And when the stars disperse, And when the seas be comingled, And when the graves be overturned (to be vacated). (Then) shall each soul know what it hath sent forward and (what it hath) kept back. " (Al-Infitar, 1-5)

When the sun (with its spacious light) is folded up, When the stars fall, losing their luster, When the mountains vanish (like a mirage), When the she-camels, ten months with young, are abandoned, When the wild beasts are herded together, When the oceans boil over with a swell, When the souls are sorted out, When the female (infant), buried alive, is questioned For what crime she was killed, When the scrolls are laid open, And when the sky is torn away (Earths canopy covering is removed), When the Blazing Fire (hell) is kindled to fierce heat, And when the Garden (paradise) is brought near, (Then) shall each soul know what it has put forward. (81:1-14 Quran)

In the Gospel attributed to Mark, we see the following verse in this regard :"... The sun will be darkened and the moon will not shed her light, the stars will be falling from heaven and the powers in the heavens will be shaken." (Mark 13:24-27)

The Acts of the Apostles too has the following verse in the same regard:"... The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before that great and conspicuous day of the Lord arrives." (2:20)

The following verses from the Gospel are in the same regard: "... And then shall He send out the angels and gather His chosen from the four winds, from the end of the earth to the end of heaven. "(Mark 13:27)

The Gospel attributed to John has the following verse in this regard: "... for the time is coming when all who are in the graves will hear His voice and will come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have practiced evil to the resurrection of condemnation." (John 5: 27-29)

The First Episle of Paul to the Corinthians includes a verse with the same meaning as follows:"... in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet call. For the trumpet will sound and the dead will be raised imperishable ... ." (15:52)


The following verse from the Second General Epistle of Peter is in this regard: "But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. Then with a tremendous roar the heavens will pass away, the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works in it will be burned up." (3:10-11)

" On that day shall come out people (from their graves) in (scattered) groups, to be shown their own deeds. Then he who hath done an atom-weight of good shall see it. And he who hath done an atom-weight of evil
shall see it." (Al-Zilzal, 6-8 Quran)

The Gospel includes a verse in this regard too, exactly with the same meaning.
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Knowledge of The hour

" Ask thee the people about the Hour (of Judgment). Say thou: ‘The knowledge of it is only with Allah." (Al-Ahzab, 63 Quran)

And the Gospel includes the following verse in the same regard: "... But about the exact date and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard; keep wide awake and pray; for you do not know the time." (Mark 13:30-33)


Addressing the last of God's Messengers (Mohammad) of Allah's previus Covenants with the Children of Israel and those messengers before him i.e. Moses

And thou (Muhammad) wast not on the western side (of the Mount) when We expounded unto Moses the commandment, and thou wast not among those present; (28:44 Quran)

But we established many generations, and, because of the length of time, (they deviated). Nor were you among the people of Midyan, reciting our revelations to them. But we did send messengers. (28:45)

Nor wast thou at the side of (the Mountain of) Tur (Sinai)when we called (to Moses). Yet (art thou sent) as Mercy from thy Lord, to give warning to a people to whom no warner had come before thee: in order that they may receive admonition. (28:46)


The deviations from the true straight path over time

And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away! (9:30 Quran)

Certainly they disbelieve those who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust. (5:72 Quran)

Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah is the third (person) of the three; and there is no god but the one God, and if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement shall befall those among them who disbelieve. (5:73 Quran)

And when Jesus son of Mary said: O children of Israel! surely I am the apostle of Allah to you, verifying that which is before me of the Taurat and giving the good news of an Apostle who will come after me, his name being Ahmad, but when he came to them with clear arguments they said: This is clear magic. (61:6 Quran)

And who is more unjust than he who forges a lie against Allah and he is invited to Islam, and Allah does not guide the unjust people. (61:7 Quran)

[61.14] O you who believe! be helpers (in the cause) of Allah, as~ Jesus son of Marry said to (his) disciples: Who are my helpers in the cause of Allah? The disciples said: We are helpers (in the cause) of Allah. So a party of the children of Israel believed and another party disbelieved; then We aided those who believed against their enemy, and they became uppermost. (61:14 Quran)

Some events in the Day of Ressurection in the Quran - especialy concerning the people of the TRINITY (Christains)

On the day when Allah will gather the messengers together, and ask: "What was the response ye received (from men to your teaching)?" They will say: "We have no knowledge: it is Thou Who knowest in full all that is hidden." (5:109 Quran)

Then will Allah say: "O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember My favour unto thee and unto thy mother; how I strengthened thee with the holy Spirit, so that thou spakest unto mankind in the cradle as in maturity; and how I taught thee the Scripture and Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and how thou didst shape of clay as it were the likeness of a bird by My permission, and didst blow upon it and it was a bird by My permission, and thou didst heal him who was born blind and the leper by My permission; and how thou didst raise the dead by My permission; and how I restrained the Children of Israel from (harming) thee when thou camest unto them with clear proofs, and those of them who disbelieved exclaimed: This is naught else than mere magic; (5:110 Quran)

And behold! when Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods besides Allah'?" He will say: "Glory be to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden (the unseen) (5:116 Quran)

"Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things. (5:117 Quran)

"If Thou dost punish them, they are Thy servants: If Thou dost forgive them (lo! they are Thy servants)., Lo! Thou, only Thou art the Mighty, the Wise." (5:118 Quran)

Allah will say: "This is a day in which their truthfulness profiteth the truthful, for theirs are Gardens underneath which rivers flow, wherein they are secure for ever, Allah taking pleasure in them and they in Him. That is the great triumph. (5:119 Quran)

The Length of the Day of Judgment

The Quran includes the following verse in this regard:" And they ask thee to hasten on the chastisement and never doth God fail His promise; And verily, there is a day with thy lord as a thousand years, of what ye reckon (them)." (Al-Hajj, 47 Quran)

The Second General Epistle of Peter has the same meaning verse as follows:
" At present, however, the heavens and the earth are by the same word stored up for burning, and reserved for the Day of Judgment and the destruction of godless people. But do not overlook this one fact, dear friends, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day." (3:7-
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Now that doesn’t mean that you sit around and do nothing waiting for these events to occur hanging out hoping for peace till Jesus descend from heaven. No! We are still encouraged to create and foster peace even if it seems hopeless. Just do you part and let God take care of the rest.

The Prophet said to his followers if you see injustice being committed anywhere in the world ACT and do something about it! If not, then at least speak out about it! Even if you can’t do that then at least feel bad about it. Sadly that is where the Muslim community at large is in today when it comes to many critical issues including that of Palestine. All these things were foretold almost 1500 years ago and things going excatly according to their description.

This is just some of the stuff relating to prophesy. The Quran also includes many amazing detail discriptions of scientific knowlegde about the creation of the universe in the bigining i.e. Big Bang, step by step embryoninc develpment, how the mountains are formed and their function, how the waives and the weather functions in detail, the sevel layers of the earth's atmosphere (i.e. the 7 heavens mentioned in the Quran sheilding the Earth, man and all that inhabit the earth) things that exist smaller than even the atom, Nebular Hypothesis....and MANY MANY other natural phenomenon governing the function of the world and universe things we still don't know about yet. These things only becamse common knowlegde in the last hundred years or so and many as recent as 20-15 years. God has mentioned these amazing things in the Quran almost 1500 years ago even when people then didn't excatly know what to make of it then. Many of these things are also exlusive to the Quran and not mentioned in the other earlier scriptures in the Torah and Injeel.

Why? maybe Allah know during the rain of this holly book, the Quran (from almost 1500 years ago till the day of resurection) that man would discover some of these things for himself and reflect.

Read and find out about the Quran for yourself before you judge. You owe at least that to yourself!

Islam indeed is the religion of peace, but that said this isn't the promised garden of Eden for believers. This is the earthly world and life we are in. It is a TESTING ground for the everlasting life that is to come. Some pass some fail, think of it more as the ultimate Final Exam.


If you wanna know more about the Noble Quran or ahadith go to here:
(http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/)

Peace

Posted by: Mo at December 17, 2006 10:21 AM (DiOvY)

20 Eric

I appreciate and can understand what you are saying but we need to first realize this.

The Sudanese are NONE Arabs and they are black. All of them. Now they do have 2 types of ethnicities in their society 1) Bantu blacks i.e. the ones that inhabit the majority of Africa and non Bantu black people i.e. Ethiopians, Somalis, Eritreans, and yes Sudanese so called 'Arabs'.

The janjaweed people speak of are yes BLACK. They might not have a big flat nose, the extremely hard and curly hair, and very dark skin (and I say that with the at most respect)...but they are none the less black.

In Africa you mostly have 3 kinds of people of color living in the continent. You got Bantu Africans, non Bantu African blacks, and then Arabs in the North Africa i.e. Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt....

The lighter skinned Sudanese are along the lines of Somalians, Ethiopians, Eritreans, and so on that they look distinctly different from other 'black' Africans and also from 'Arabs'.

Just because the Sudanese speak Arabic (and they do have other languages) does not mean they are Arabs. That would be like saying Somalians are Arabs, and they are not! Many of them might speak the language (mainly due to the revelation of the Quran in Arabic) and also their close proximity to the Middle East is just a boat ride from Yemen. They do not consider themselves Arabs, but they are a Muslims country 100%. That is very unique in the world today because I think that is the only country that has pretty much every single one of their citizens belonging to the same religion (Islam). Unlike neighboring Ethiopia and Eritrea, there are no Christians or Jews to speak off. Not even any Arab nation can say that.

Both Sudan and Somalia are in the 'Arab' League of Nations and to put it in perspective Pakistan and Iran are not because they could not join in and not considered as 'Arabs'. That still does not make the Sudanese ethnic group (the lighter blacks) in power there Arabs nor the Somalis.

I wish if people in West especialy would find out more about these things you know before painting it black and white, even with good intension. You see the George Clooneys of the world running around and saying 'Arabs' arfe killing and starving blacks there and so forth lol. It might be a racial conflict, but it isn't Arab vs. African thing like the Western media makes it out to be. If anything, it is African vs. African. It is just that not all real so called 'Africans' look the same, and that is excluding the Arabs.

Posted by: Mo at December 17, 2006 11:10 AM (DiOvY)

21 Ho-Mo:


Do you really think anyone is stupid enough to read your juvenile islamic drivel? A muslim inbred couldn't arrange a logical argument if his worthless life depended on it. Nobody is intetrested in your contradictory, paleolithic nonsense.


Americans are the masters of the universe. What could you subhuman savages possibly have to offer us? Dog shit has more value than primitive islame.


There's a reason islamopithecines are the most backwards, retarded people on Earth. Little muhammad was a cowardly, lying, thieving, degenerate, lice-ridden, diseased, child molesting retard. The losers who worship him and his phony moon deity are even more wretched.


I feel dirty just having coresponded with you. I'm going to go take a shower now to cleanse the filth off.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 17, 2006 07:26 PM (bLPT+)

22 PART ONE to Mohamed Gure, and PART TWO to Mo

PART ONE:
Mohamed Gure, your a dork! Merry Christmas to you. You have my real name, so lets see what you can do with it. What's your real name? Are you "hiding behind cyberspace"?

Look, it's gonna come down between people who want to let all religions, live in peace, and the 'other' religion, that wants everyone else to submit. I respect any 'Muslim' that will live, and let live. That is what freedom of religion is about.

If your the kind of Muslim that can't let other religions have equal respect, and equal freedom, your the enemy. It is my rock solid belief that you need to go bye bye! Only truth here M.G. so your gonna have to fight back with your brain instead of your cheap and childish tirades.

PART TWO:
Mo, I'm glad you took so much time to respond, and you seem to have understood that I wasn't overtly trying to be insulting to you. Your response was polite, but I can't agree with your version of some historical events. Nice work on your info on the Mongols BTW.

I also have a Quran, and A Manual of Hadith by Maulana Muhammad Ali. I am using the online Hadith sources to make up for what I lack in physical books. I am currently reading through all the books of Hadith at an Muslim American Society archive. I am not that unfamiliar with the sources for Islamic law.

We happen to disagree on what the Hadith's value is to modern society. Taken as the major foundation for Sharia law, the Hadith cannot be accepted as supreme law, in any society that has equal religious freedom. I don't know how the 'Quran only' muslims approach this problem yet, but I do know that Sharia is by definition, anti-Constitutional. That's the problem.

I believe in a supreme God. I believe this is one nation, under God. I believe God blesses America. I believe God sheds his grace upon her, and I trust in God. Speaking for the majority of Americans, In God We Trust. In the USA we hold certain truths to be self evident. One is that we were all created equal, and another is that we were all created with unalienable rights.

One of the rights we protect is the right to free exercise of religion. Freedom to exchange religious ideas, or even to change religion without fear of reprisal is a bid deal to us. Dhimmi stautus is contrary to a guarantee of those rights.

I can't tolerate a system that replaces those, or any rights garanteed by our Constitution. The only possible exception would be a suspension in time of war, like has occured previously in US history, and it only happens then, with the understanding that the rights themselves are sacred, and must be put back in order at the most urgent possibility.

So Mo, if you are in living as a US American, you need to protect and preserve that Constitution. It is your highest national duty. Your religion is your personal business until someone forces it to become my business.

The Jihadists are making it my problem, and yours. There is going to be a global full scale war, and if Islam is going to survive the atomic age, it needs to put down the sword, for good. I like that you have faith in God. If you have a sword in your hand, raised against my country, or my Constitution, put it down.

You can be a Muslim American, tolerating equal freedom for all religions, or you can try to make America submit. I don't see any other choices, and I'm saying this out of concern, but if we can't tell what side your on when it gets ugly, we will probably be past the point we will give you the beneifit of the doubt.

I'm looking quietly, in my area for Muslims who believe as I do, that Islam is better served by the US Constitution, than the whims of Mullahs. As I find them, I will try to do the decent thing, and try to help them survive what is coming.

The Jihadists I already consider myself to be at war with. I am suppossing for the moment, you are not one of them. Tough times, wouldn't you say, Mo?

Anyway, no disrespect intended, but I find the various Hadiths detailing Jihad, and other religions, only solidify my views. I'm sorry, but I'm still studying, looking for a ray of hope.

Like Wafa Sultan, I'm starting to think Islam needs a transformation to fit the nuclear age. Wouldn't you like all of our kids to have a nice bright, non-radioactive future? Let's pray.

On a more humorous note, I think George Clooney is an ignorant ass. It's to bad cause I like some of his movies. Oh well ...

USA , all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 17, 2006 10:21 PM (2OHpj)

23 And to get back on topic, when you train little children to hate, and kill, your abusing that child. Islam has the worst reputation for it I've ever seen.

Islam is going to force people to have to shoot back at these poor children, and I'd would like to know what Mo, or Mohamed Gure think of that. I hope neither would try to justify it.

USA all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 17, 2006 10:28 PM (2OHpj)

24 Hate? That is a strong word.

These pics were taken from demonstrations in Mogadishu against the invasion of Ethiopian troops. Maybe you have no idea the rivalry and animosity between these two countries.

7 year in army suits aren't going to fight lol, it was for show of solidarity, young and old, men and women, in a demonstration. There were all kinds of people in the thousands.

They were demanding that Ethiopian troops get out and no foreign troops in Somalia.

That isn’t hate, that is called being a patriot and defending your land.

Posted by: Mo at December 18, 2006 08:27 AM (DiOvY)

25 Mo.

Compare it to the kinds of things we see in the media of Hezb'Allah and Palestinian, and Iranian TV. If it is any more focused than sy, dressing kids for halloween, then it will build on glorification of violence.

The Palestinians teach their children to hate, and die, for Allah. It is a kind of sickness. if your against this sort of thing, I wish you would say so.

USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 18, 2006 04:50 PM (2OHpj)

26 Ho-Mo:


Why were only UIC "heroes" in that photo? Why weren't they on the border "defending their land" as "patriots?"


Because they're vicious tyrants who oppress Scumalia, and like you they don't have the balls to live up to their empty boasts.


Where were all the adoring people of Scumalia? Squatting in their filthy hovels starving to death because the UIC stole all their rice and locusts.


The child abuse displayed in that photo is hateful, not patriotic.


Islam is a disease worse than cancer, and Scumalia was a shit-hole even before it contracted it.


Convert to a real religion while you still have time.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 18, 2006 08:55 PM (bLPT+)

27 Michael Weaver:

I appreciate the fact that you are trying to educate yourself about Islam, rather than relying on media propoganda and streotyping:

The term Islam is derived from the Arabic word salama which means both to submit and to be in peace. In other words, the Muslim consciously submits to the will of God and subsequently gains internal and external harmony, synchronicity, and peace. Internal peace refers to one's psychological well-being due to lack of conflict within the self, while external peace stems from the harmonious and loving relationship with God and the environment.

From the Islamic perspective, all creatures exist in compliance with God's will. All creatures, from the tiny atoms to the mighty galaxies, worship God and thus co-exist harmoniously according to God's will. When one accepts Islam, one becomes part of this harmonious co-existence willingly. Being a Muslim thus necessitates revolving around God on an assigned course (just like the electrons and celestial bodies do) without transgressing boundaries and infringing on the rights of the self, the environment, and God. Through this pious life the Muslim strives for an all-encompassing peace which is a fundamental concept in Islam. The term Muslim means peaceful. One of God's names is Assalaam which means peace. The concluding words of Muslims' daily prayers are Assalaamu aleikum which means ‘peace be upon you.’ Muslims' greetings are Assalaamu aleikum. Heaven in Islam is called Darussalaam which means the abode of peace.
In light of the forgoing, Muslims are divinely ordained to co-exist with their social environment in peace and harmony. The Islamic values of human universal brotherhood and equality are the source of such peace and harmony. God explains in the Holy Quran that human differences in colour, gender, and language are nothing but manifestations of the beautiful signs of God. None of these differences are the source of superiority of one person, race, or gender over another. As far as God is concerned, spiritual excellence and righteous life are the only criteria for human honour. God says in the Quran:

"O mankind, verily We have created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and have made you into nations and tribes, that you may know each other. Verily the most honored of you in the sight of God is the most righteous" (49:13).

In Islam, human beings are equal based on there principles: equality in the origin of humanity, equality in their rights and duties and equality in judgment and implementation of law.

In short, the Islamic value of equality is based on various principles inherent in the Islamic belief system, namely: 1) All human beings are created by the One and the Same Eternal God; 2) All humans belong to the same human race and share equally the common motherhood and fatherhood of Eve and Adam; 3) God is just and kind to all; He is not partial to any gender, race, or age; 4) God judges every person on the basis of his own deeds; 5) God has given all humans an innate honor and dignity; it is then through one's deeds that one either upholds or tarnishes that dignity. When this divinely ordained value of equality among humans is fully implemented, there is no room for prejudice, discrimination, and oppression.

Posted by: Ahmed Gurey at December 20, 2006 09:43 AM (bFpCL)

28 Michael Weaver:

You say that you are at war with Jihadi. I do not understand honestly what you mean by jihadi. Do you mean any one who believes in the concept as it is establish in the authentic sources of Islam, or a specific group of people who claim to be practising the concept? If you mean the former, you are at war with all Muslims because no one can be a Muslim without believing in Jihad. If you mean the latter, it depends on what group you are talking about, and to what extent they are true to the authentic teachings of Islam. Unfortunately, the term Jihad became a politically hard currency term!

A short clarification of the meaning of Jihad from Islam's authentic sources is in order.

Jihad is from the Arabic word Juhd which means effort. Jihad that means giving effort (any considerable and sincere effort)in good causes (causes in line with the ultimate purpose of life in Islam which is to live according God's will).

Fighting oppression is only one example of jihad. Interestingly, Muslims were not allowed to fight back for the majority of Prophet's life time when they were oppressed at the hands of Meccans. It was only when they migrated to Medina after 13 years under oppresseion that they were allowed to fight bak:

"Permission (to fight) is given to those upon whom war is made because they are oppressed, and most surely Allah is well able to assist them" (Qura'an, 22:39)

"Those who have been expelled from their homes without a just cause except that they say: Our Lord is Allah. And had there not been Allah's repelling some people by others, certainly there would have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques in which Allah's name is much remembered" (Qura'an, 22:39)


Obviously, the purpose of fighting type jihad is only for self-defense and as a last resort. It is to uphold freedom of worship. Why the propogandists in the West fail to tell the world that fighting type jihad was permitted in Islam to protect churches, synagogues, and their worshpers as they above verifiable Qura'anic verse says explictly! It is amazing how people can mislead themselves.

From the Islamic point of view, when human equality is not respected and rights are violated, Zulm occurs. The Arabic term Zulm means oppression or transgression. Prejudice, discrimination, exploitation and abuse are forms of Zulm.

As mentioned earlier, righteous people revolve around the guidance of God on an assigned path without violating others' rights. Just like a runaway celestial body which gets out of its course would create havoc in the physical environment, so oppression creates conflict and disharmony in the social environment. In fact, oppression or Zulm is the antonym of Islam because it is against all that Islam stands for. Thus, God prohibited Himself from oppressing His creatures and forbade them to oppress one another. God says:

“I have forbidden oppression for Myself and have made it forbidden amongst you, so do not oppress one another.” (authentic hadith).

Thus, one cannot be a Muslim and be practicing or accepting of oppression at the same time. Jihad applies whether the person herself is the victim of oppression or a fellow human being is in an oppressive situation. Further, several principles apply: 1) Muslims are instructed to stay on course and not let oppressors derail them from righteousness; 2) The oppressed need to avoid internalizing oppression by maintaining the awareness that God honours the righteous and the oppressor humiliates himself in the sight of God; 3) Muslim’s seek God's help while responding to oppression because God has promised to support the oppressed.

A word of caution about online hadiths: Complex science governs how authen, acceptable, fabricated, etc. hadiths are classified and judged. Please do not rely on sources that do not provide that critical judgement.

Posted by: Ahmed Gurey at December 20, 2006 10:39 AM (bFpCL)

29 Michael Weaver:

Islam does not allow children to fight. Ask any Islamic scholar, including the non-Muslim American professor at the Islamic Studies Department of your local university!

Posted by: Ahmed Gurey at December 20, 2006 10:43 AM (bFpCL)

30 Ahmed Gurey,
 
Many of those that are sent to battle by Hamas, and  others who say they are good Muslims, are children by nearly any standard.
 
It is an unfortunate reality that the children are indoctinated early on.
 
I understand what you are saying about the 'Science' of Hadith, and I'm making an effort to get the best possible handle on it. I said I'm using the Muslim American Societies own material, so it should be authentic enough.
 
My last college class was taught by someone who had a political agenda. I don't trust University teachers as unbiased sources, whether Arab, Caucasian, Japanese, or whatever.
 
To be clear, I am a US patriot. Nobody who wants to replace our Constitution, or defeat my country can be anything but a foe. Muslims which fit that definition (and there are millions) I consider myself to be at war with. They claim it is Jihad, so I call them "Jihadists".  If they attack my country, and our laws, I am taking up a Jihad of my own, and it is against them that I speak out.
 
If you are engaged in a Jihad against my country, then of course, I am at war with you as well. It is MY country your talking about attacking. So you understand better ...
 
I grew up thinking the Russians could someday attack, and there would be a nuclear war. I grew up believing it was better to go down fighting that war, than to submit the essence of American freedom to any outside empire. Better that we all go down in flames than ever surrender. I'm ready to go that far to prevent an Islamic state from forming inside America. I see Islam, as an outside empire, trying to force my country to submit. I will not have that.
 
I would love to have Muslims just live alondside everyone else in peace, but the enemies of my country want all the Muslims to fight America with them. If that is how it has to be, and I cannot find a peaceful Muslim to offer me hope, then all I have left is to plan for total war. I do not want to be a Muslim, nor will I surrender my freedoms, or those of others, just to satisfy Muslims.
 
I hope you understand me. I hope you can lead other Muslims to seek peace, and equality.  Or we'll have a war that could end the world, because we will fight to defend our country.
 
I'm probably not coming back to this thread, so take my wishes for peace, and my promise to fight to the death if forced, and consider them well. I never expected to live this long anyway.
 
My religion says to love thy neighbor, and so because Christmas is a holiday for me, I give you my love as a Christmas present!Because on this earth we are all neighbors. My new years wish for you is that you feel as I do, that we should work to be good neighbors in the future, and put down our swords.
 
And with with these last words I will turn the page ...
USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 20, 2006 11:01 PM (2OHpj)

31 Weird the way the post seems to run on,
 
 
Sorry about that ...
 
USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 20, 2006 11:04 PM (2OHpj)

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Three very related stories. First, the Islamic Courts Union (dubbed the African Taliban by me) has imposed a jihad tax. No goat will go untaxed in the effort to defeat the crusader infidels! Seriously. They are actually taxing goats to pay for jihad.

Second, the Islamic State of Iraq (the al Qaeda umbrella group which presents itself as a shadow government) has praised the ICU in a recent communique. But remember, the ICU claims it has not ties to terrorism. Right.

Last, and most disheartening, news reports indicate that the anti-ICU forces of the Somali government have been surrounded. Next stop, Ethiopia.

AKI:

Islamists who control Somalia's capital Mogadishu say they have begun collecting taxes to raise money to fund a holy war against foreign troops in the Horn of Africa country.

Announcing the tax collection campaign, the UIC has specified the levies it willl charge on livestock: a goat trader will pay 5,000 Somali shillings (7 US cents) while a cow trader will pay 10,000 (14 US cents) and a camel trader will pay 20,000 (1.05 US dollars). It was not immedialtely clear what other businesses based in the capital would be charged.

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You probably have all heard about the Christmas in Darfur project that I'm involved with. In the course of preparation, we've been following the news and doing some research, which I figured I should share with folks. more...

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(Scroll to bottom for update) A few days ago we brought to your attention the fact that an American citizen is the Foreign Minister for the Taliban-like Islamic Courts Union of Somalia. We asked readers to find out anything they could about Professo Ibrahim Hassan Addow. We wondered if it could possibly be true that an American would be a high ranking official in a government that has ties to al Qaeda, which is exporting jihad, and which calls for death to America?

Thanks to Vonski we've learned some more about the American traitor, Ibrahim Addow. It seems that the problem with finding information was in the spelling of his name. The more common spelling of his name is Ibrahim Hassan Addou.

It seems that Professor Addou used to work at The American University in Washington, D.C. Newsvine:

Addou...worked as an administrator at American University in Washington, D.C., before returning to Somalia in 1999.

Vonski also digs up this bio page from Benadir University in Mogadishu, where it appears Addou/Addow was named President of the University after returning to Somalia.

Funny enough, here is a screenshot of an image from the welcome page at the University, which lists our American traitor as Prof. Ibrahim Hassan Addou, MA, M.Ed., Ph.D.

Why do I have the feeling that the picture wasn't actually taken at a University in the heart of downtown Mogadishu?

Ibrahim Addou is described one of the so-called 'moderates' in the African Courts Union regime. And in fact, compared to some in the regime, he may indeed be a moderate. But only moderate in the sense that Kruschev was a moderate communist when compared to Stalin.

Here is your 'moderate' face of the Somalian Taliban. Seattle Times:

"It seems that the extremists here are getting the focus and overshadowing us....We're wasting our time and resources closing movies and things like this. Minor things like this have to wait."

And like many a Taliban spokespan, Addou plays the 'we just want peace' card. Time:

"We are ready to be a nation," says Foreign Minister Ibrahim Hassan Addou. "We want Somalia to be peaceful, and we want to establish good relations with the rest of the world." With both hands, he beckons toward the open window in his office. "Feel free to look around," he says. "You can go where you want to go and see what you want to see."

Well, not quite. The Islamists have instituted Taliban-style rules banning drinking, cinemas, dancing and women swimming, as well as curbing the press.

And, for many Muslims, this is exactly what they mean by 'peace'. He says:

"Our record speaks for itself," he said. "We have created the stability and peace that the entire world could not do. Now the Somali people know the value of the Islamic courts and the quality of the leadership of the Islamic courts. We don't want to spend time on cheap propaganda."

What is mystifying is that I have seen no major reports about Dr. Addou. Is he not a traitor? Not simply because he is a member of an oppressive government, not simply because that government has declared jihad against Ethiopia, not simply becasue that government is hostile to the West and our values, but because he is a member of a government which receives aid from al Qaeda and which is protecting terrorists involved in bombing the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania!

We are at war with al Qaeda. If that isn't the very definition of treason, I don't know what is.

Dr. Addou and the Islamic Courts Union claim they do not support terrorism nor do they support al Qaeda. But, if you'll recall, the Taliban also claimed that they did not support terrorism. It's all how you define terrorism, I suppose. Also, there is no serious doubt that the Islamic Courts Union is backed by al Qaeda.

The head of the Islamic Courts Union has invited jihadis from around the world to join the fight in Somalia. And what do their followers chant? “Down with America! Down with Ethiopia!” And who do they praise? Check the image [and updates] below. more...

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1 Cut the crap...

If a person is born in somalia, raised in Somalia, educated else where and happens to end up in the United States... that doesn't change the fact that he is Somali. You make it sound like this is an American Negro who converted to Islam and went to a foreign country to support a 'Taliban' like regime.

Second, as a Somali, I'll tell you what; My country has been lawless and without a government for 15yrs. The current 'president' wasn't elected by Somali's. Rather he was chosen by a non-elected parliament in a foreign country (kenya).. with some 'assistantce' from America.

Also, if he is a traitor, then what does that make George Bush? His government was supporting warlords in my country. Arming them and paying them. What does that make America? Are you a traitor for not following that line?

Posted by: Abdi at December 01, 2006 03:22 PM (988fq)

2 I think the D.r missed understood the stance of the UIC. The UIC are there to bring peace and security in the war torn horn Africa. Why is it people complain, critisise and even accuse them of commiting act of terrierism, while they there with consent of the people. i think this is Democracy or is it?

Furtheremore Dr. i think you youself need some broader understanding of the situation of somalia after the UIC. Peace, Tranquility and happines prevailed. And if you are trying to take our freedom, we shall and of course fight for it. Thank you Dr.

Memeber of peace and security in somalia

Posted by: Hussein at December 01, 2006 03:26 PM (Gude+)

3 I thought the lead man was the grocer from Toronto?

Posted by: ak at December 01, 2006 04:36 PM (QD4du)

4 He looks like Tommy Chong.

Why is it people complain, critisise and even accuse them of commiting act of terrierism

Maybe its the killing of Christians and people who watch TV thing.

Posted by: Randman at December 01, 2006 05:01 PM (Sal3J)

5 Abdi,

When you become an American citizen, you swear allegiance to it.  If Dr. Addou was fighting with warlords backed by the US, then no problem.  Supporting the US is, by definition for an American, patriotism.  Fighting against it, by definition, is treason.

Also, who elected the ICU....exactly??

Hussein,

The ICU's peace is the peace of the Taliban.  It is peace, of a sort.  The kind of peace that comes with fear.  If you really don't believe that there is an al Qaeda connection, why does al Qaeda openly support the ICU ?

Of course the ICU will bring stability.  But if that stability is bought at the price of another al Qaeda backing state--which we know it does--then that peace is not in America's interest.

Posted by: Rusty at December 01, 2006 05:02 PM (JQjhA)

6 Abdi or Abdul or what ever the fuck your name might be - The facts are simple - Somalia is a shit hole. Always has been always will be. Nothing you khat chewing empty headed savages can do to change that.
 
Remember this too you ambulating turd - we came to your cespool on a humanitarian relief operations - UNITAF under Bush I. This was after the failure of UNOSOM I. Don't even try to blame what existed there before on anyone but your savage selfs!
 
UNOSOM II which was under Clinton was made up of 28,000 personnel, drawn from Australia, Austria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Botswana, Canada, Czechoslovakia, Egypt, Fiji, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Kuwait, Jordan, Malaysia, Morocco, Nepal, New Zealand, Nigeria, Norway, Pakistan, South Korea, Romania, Saudi Arabia, Sweden, Tunisia, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, the USA and Zimbabwe.
 
This was all in response to the ONE SIMPLE FACT that will ALWAYS exist. It doesn't make a difference who is in charge of Somalia - warlords, muslims, zebras, etc... the place will ALWAYS be FUCKED UP. Clear as the bone through your wife's nose!
 
Have a great day and keep your happy stick out on monkey ass - see what happened last time??? 

Posted by: William Cleveland at December 01, 2006 05:09 PM (R4293)

7 What last time happend,when US Soldiers were in Somalia,you can see in the black hawk down movie. They died with the same behavior,like you and the Us in Irak or Afghanistan, the last word surly were fu...

This Story from above, is pure fiction. the reality is on the ground! The somali people love the IUC ,like the rest of the muslim world. They are not like the taliban,they bring security,not terror like the US Army. (see Irak)

May God,help them to establish a somali goverment of stability and true peace.
May God help Somalis defeat the äthiopian invaders.

Posted by: Mimoun at December 01, 2006 05:24 PM (9Zql0)

8 Whoever things that Somalia is a Shit hole
then surely they are in a shit hole. The U.S
is the un-official Dictator of the world
because of their evil ways of doing business
around the world like war revenues and oil
Purchasing power and they put theirselves in
this position by slaughterin people around
the world (Vietnam, and Iraq for example)
It is a good thing that the US army over
threw a "bad man in Iraq" But the fact is that
Saddam would have never ever masaccared
650,000 people in 5 years or however much his
power would last not even in another 30yrs.
My point is that the Roman Empire was eventualy
brought down by the same people who you call
Islamists I mean is that even word. My point
is when the greater muslim world joins the fight
the freedom fighter will take this world over
and bring real law in the world (Sharia) and
their is nothing no one can do about it. Saudi
Arabia is Under Sharia law and do you know
why they have'nt been over thrown and massacered
because they have what you need (oil) Somalia
has brout itself to the nees for the past 15
years and because Somalis don't think the same
way for you ignorants out there the are actually
many people some bad and some good and those
who are good bring down the evil dictatorships
like the US "upported" former goverment of
Siad barre trust me when i say this when you
fight with pure blooded muslims you might win
the "wars" but actually you they see it as
small Batals because muslims fight till they
win the greator war.

Posted by: Abdullahi Mohamed at December 01, 2006 06:10 PM (fNGZZ)

9 Whoever things that Somalia is a Shit hole
then surely they are in a shit hole. The U.S
is the un-official Dictator of the world
because of their evil ways of doing business
around the world like war revenues and oil
Purchasing power and they put theirselves in
this position by slaughterin people around
the world (Vietnam, and Iraq for example)
It is a good thing that the US army over
threw a "bad man in Iraq" But the fact is that
Saddam would have never ever masaccared
650,000 people in 5 years or however much his
power would last not even in another 30yrs.
My point is that the Roman Empire was eventualy
brought down by the same people who you call
Islamists I mean is that even word. My point
is when the greater muslim world joins the fight
the freedom fighter will take this world over
and bring real law in the world (Sharia) and
their is nothing no one can do about it. Saudi
Arabia is Under Sharia law and do you know
why they have'nt been over thrown and massacered
because they have what you need (oil) Somalia
has brout itself to the nees for the past 15
years and because Somalis don't think the same
way for you ignorants out there the are actually
many people some bad and some good and those
who are good bring down the evil dictatorships
like the US "upported" former goverment of
Siad barre trust me when i say this when you
fight with pure blooded muslims you might win
the "wars" but actually you they see it as
small Batals because muslims fight till they
win the greator war. Somlain

Posted by: Abdullahi Mohamed at December 01, 2006 06:10 PM (fNGZZ)

10 Blah blah blah. Just remember...you can't have sex with your young boys unless they hair on their face.

Posted by: Randman at December 01, 2006 07:22 PM (Sal3J)

11 If you read these peoples posts you see the "Big Lie" at work.  Some fake study says that the US has killed 650k people in Iraq and some Islamotard vomits it back up a month after the figure is totally discredited. 
 
 
 
 
 

Posted by: Buzzy at December 01, 2006 07:28 PM (CXz7T)

12 Whoever things that Somalia is a Shit hole
then surely they are in a shit hole.

The other day I was trying to pick up some holiday brochures to visit Somalia the other day -- but the travel agent told me people would rather bob for turds in an open gutter in Mexico than visit Somalia.

Posted by: davec at December 01, 2006 08:08 PM (yaQM4)

13 And they always conveniently forget that thousands of Somalian jihadis died in the "Blackhawk Down" incident.

Posted by: Vinnie at December 01, 2006 08:09 PM (/qy9A)

14 I remember the brave men of Somalia when we were there. They would hide
behind women and children when they fired at the backs of our troops.

Posted by: Randman at December 01, 2006 08:17 PM (Sal3J)

15 Why cant these islamists stay on topic? Where is the critical thinking and logic? oh wait...never mind... yes, please pass me the big shiny rounds with the words "love from the empire".

Posted by: DAT at December 01, 2006 08:37 PM (vEiYY)

16 "the freedom fighter will take this world over
and bring real law in the world (Sharia) and
their is nothing no one can do about it"
 
Killing 650,000 of you goat raping pieces of shit is a great start!
 
 

Posted by: Clayton Matchee at December 01, 2006 09:37 PM (PM8kH)

17 What I don’t understand is why you insulting our religion. It is one thing to expose those lying self confessed Taliban style Mogadishu Islamic courts but to make fun of the Islamic religion with cheap sarcastic comments like “give to JAWA and ensure your 72 virgins” is unacceptable. This is American arrogance that got you into trouble where ever you go in the world.

The info about Addou and his organization is mostly true. ICU support Bin Ladin and that is a fact. Another fact about Somalia for your info is that this ICU is a tribal bandits trying to get into power using Islam to solicit support and sympathy.

Posted by: Mohamed at December 01, 2006 09:54 PM (92Ygd)

18 What I don’t understand is why you insulting our religion. It is one thing to expose those lying self confessed Taliban style Mogadishu Islamic courts but to make fun of the Islamic religion with cheap sarcastic comments like “give to JAWA and ensure your 72 virgins” is unacceptable. This is American arrogance that got you into trouble where ever you go in the world.

The info about Addou and his organization is mostly true. ICU support Bin Ladin and that is a fact. Another fact about Somalia for your info is that this ICU is a tribal bandits trying to get into power using Islam to solicit support and sympathy.

Posted by: Mohamed at December 01, 2006 10:00 PM (92Ygd)

19

And I am a bigot because I don't want these people to come to my country. Dear Somalis. Please stay in your wonderful country and do not come to this shit hole called America. We hare horrible people who will mistreat you when you come here. Life is surely better where you are. The muslim way is better. Stay at home and enjoy it. We have plenty of people who look and act like you already. Was the computer you are using made in Somalia. Bet its a good one.

 

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 01, 2006 10:40 PM (BMcPj)

20 "What I don’t understand is why you insulting our religion"
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3585765.stm
 
Come to Texas and I'll help you understand with a baseball bat across your big muzzie forehead.

Posted by: Clayton Matchee at December 01, 2006 11:03 PM (PM8kH)

21 Abdullahi Mohamed??? Didn't I get an e-mail from you saying you had $60,000,000 you needed my help moving out of your crappy country?
 
Where's my money asshole???
 
 

Posted by: Max Power at December 01, 2006 11:07 PM (PM8kH)

22 The irony! Somalis defending Muhammad the 'pedophilia prophet' that kept black people as slaves, and referred to them as having 'heads like raisins'

I say not a penny more in aid to Somalia -- we should make sure Ethiopia has everything they need to wipe out the ICU, and any Islamitard that picks up a weapon.

Posted by: davec at December 02, 2006 02:10 AM (yaQM4)

23 Hello Jawa,

It's really disappointing that today you are here pounding your chest like an angry Geurilla just when Peace finnaly arrived in the shores of Mogadishu city.

Can I honestly ask you, where were you? what were you doing? And how on earth would you turn a blind eye when the Somali people were crying out loud for HELP!!!

I mean, it is almost 17 years since the defeated blood sucking Warlords devistated our country and made our people refugees in all over the world.

Where were you Mr.? We needed your help then? We cried out loud for your help?

Thanks to Allah we defeated them warlords one by one and today we are at peace. Mogadishu is Peaceful at last!!! My dear Mogadishu peaceful. Can you hear me??


Thank you,
A victim of American supported and financed Bloodsucking criminal Warlords.

Posted by: Victim of Warlords at December 02, 2006 03:43 AM (7Gxwu)

24 I think that this man is a narrow minded, as his reltives are saying here in Mogadishu.
He teaches his students of Al-Fyrqan Universtity in Moigadishu the Jihad subject, as his student is indiucating when interviewd at his inside home of industrial road of Mogadishu south, where the university is located.
He is the most fanaticx teacher i saw in side the university, insulting all the activityies of the wolrd," said the stuident, whi requested not to be named.

Posted by: A. Mohamed at December 02, 2006 03:55 AM (8B3dj)

25
I think that this man is a narrow minded, as his reltives are saying here in Mogadishu.

He teaches his students of Al-Furqan Universtity in Moigadishu the Jihad subject, as one of his student is indicating, when interviewd at his inside home of industrial road of Mogadishu south, by a local reorter, The Universuty is located at INDUSTRIAL road of southside of Mogadishu.

He is the most fanatic teacher i ever saw inside the university, insulting and criticised all the activities of this wolrd," said the stuident, whi requested not to be named.

Posted by: A. Mohamed at December 02, 2006 03:57 AM (8B3dj)

26 All muslims are narrow minded.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 02, 2006 08:32 AM (0ZUKd)

27 You muslims in Somalia shouldn't worry. The democrats are going to run Barrack Hussein Obama for president. That's right folks. His true middle name is Hussein. Same as Saddam. I can visualize America with Hussein Jomama running the white house. Should make the terrorists happy. Or are the islamocrats already on the self destruct path I have predicted.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 02, 2006 08:38 AM (0ZUKd)

28 hello Assholes,

i wanna fuck Bush in the streets of Mogadishu right now ,,,,, the asshole can't come to somalia and trying to use Ethiopia coz he can't face somalis again after 1994's defeat ,,,,,

This is the second round of da game ,, let's see who is winning ,,, i can already see the results but i should wait until everybody see it with me ,,,,,,,,,,

Somalis fuck everybody including themselves ,,,,, they fucked America's ass and they fuck each other like nobody ,,,,,,,,, welcome Ethiopia i guess you have a nice ass too

Posted by: True Teller at December 02, 2006 09:11 AM (Raygp)

29 The say the first casualty of war is truth. And sadly truth has been the first casualty of the war against terror. I am disgusted by the way some of the posts on this site. I have never heard of so much narrow-minded bigotry and hatred, especially from those people who claim to be the champions of the free world. I have not seen so much hatred levelled against a people because of their religion. Al-Qaeda do not and never will represent Muslims or Islam. But are all people who have posted anti-Muslim and anti-Somali messages really representative of the US. I feel, they are representing a totally different school of though. Pricisely the sort of stuff that the Nazis used to preach. Hitler must be proud of his children across the Atlantic.

Posted by: X at December 02, 2006 10:00 AM (mLgYj)

30 true teller,
This cannot be the way American people think. This is how what they called low live white trash scumbags talk. That is what they are and that is what they always will be.
 
And in Somalia, with all our differences, I am glad to say somalis will unite when they see this white trash.
Fuck you all

Posted by: White trash at December 02, 2006 11:47 AM (pDxvZ)

31

Hell - I'd rather be a "low live white trash scumbag" than a khat-munching, monkey-humping, third-world piece of shit muzzie skinie any day...

 

Posted by: Max Power at December 02, 2006 02:42 PM (PM8kH)

32 Can I honestly ask you, where were you? what were you doing? And how on earth would you turn a blind eye when the Somali people were crying out loud for HELP!!!

Somalia had it's chance to turn it's back against the warlords during 'Operation Restore Hope' you rallied against the United Nations operation instead, now even the United Nations is not interested in helping Somalia, because just like you chose the Warlords over the U.N peace keepers, you'll choose the ICU over any international aid.
I hope you guys can eat a Koran, because as far as I'm concerned we should leave you to your ICU.

Posted by: davec at December 02, 2006 08:50 PM (yaQM4)

33 "I hope you guys can eat a Koran"
 
TOO FUNNY!
 
I keep picturing some skinny drugged up turd hiding behind some old lady with a big book lodged in this throat - looking like a freakin' dirty pelican trying to swallow a volvo... 

Posted by: Max Power at December 02, 2006 10:38 PM (PM8kH)

34 Guy looks and dresses like a New Orleans mugger.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 03, 2006 10:31 AM (5vGBy)

35 I like Somali's in the US. Except for having to correct their African driving habits to fit in better with North American driving regulations.
I'm glad a lot of them can to America.

Posted by: normal US guy at December 03, 2006 10:33 AM (OulIF)

36 "What I don’t understand is why you insulting our religion"

That's pretty funny, coming from a member of a religion that spends so much time teaching its children to hate other religions.

Posted by: pst314 at December 03, 2006 09:11 PM (lCxSZ)

37 Max Power: Good one. I got several of those messages too. Cracks me up that these idiots think we are as dumb as they.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 04, 2006 06:19 AM (qWbYR)

38 Victim of Warlords: You monkeys wil always be the victims of someone. Always have been and always will be. That's what nature intended. You are a backward, stupid, cruel bunch of simpletons who haven't the intellect to participate in the modern world. Stay there, enjoy Islam and don't ask us to save you.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 04, 2006 06:24 AM (qWbYR)

39 True teller: Classy post. You must be a Somali. America has monkeys in the zoo that speak better than you. Like you Somalis the monkeys also ass fuck.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 04, 2006 06:26 AM (qWbYR)

40 X:  Do you take stupid pills in the morning?

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 04, 2006 06:29 AM (qWbYR)

41 White trash: I take it that you are black trash. Yes Somalis will unite when they see this white trash. They will unite to beg for food, money and medicine from the white trash. Pretty big talk from a black trash people who can't even make a light bulb. Back in your tree monkeyman.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 04, 2006 06:32 AM (qWbYR)

42 True Teller: Hey dude.  You just taught me why you're the same color as shit. You assholes don't know what hole to screw. Thanks for the info. I always wondered. No more Somali babies. Outlaw ass fucking.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 04, 2006 07:44 AM (qWbYR)

43 Somalia had it's chance to turn it's back against the warlords during 'Operation Restore Hope' you rallied against the United Nations operation instead, now even the United Nations is not interested in helping Somalia, because just like you chose the Warlords over the U.N peace keepers, you'll choose the ICU over any international aid."

The irony is that the Warlords that have turn my beloved country into what it has become were the same Warlords that chased you from Mogadishu. They are the same warlords that have raped, murdered and killed my people, my city, my home, my country.

The irony is that today the USofA finances, supports and advocates for those same shameful Warlords. How ironic??

I hate the Warlords and I hate anyone that supports those Warlords.

God Bless the ICU for defeating the ugly criminal Warlords.

Posted by: Victim of Warlords at December 05, 2006 04:51 AM (7Gxwu)

44 White trash scumbags. They all have same brain size as that of mr. Bush. No body needs your aid fuck. I never saw any counrty america came to help. The only reason they come is to steal what ever resource that is avialable there. aparently there is oil in Somalia and that is what driving uncle sam.....Stay out you fucking american cowards.. 

Posted by: White trash at December 05, 2006 07:04 AM (gFCic)

45 whitetrash:
The United States people and Government has helped many countries, the Tsunami where 'Allah' decided to wipe 500,000 Muslims off the earth the people of the United States sent more money in private donations that the actual Government, my Wife raised $2,000.00 and sent it to the Tsunami relief fund, despite not liking the ideology of Islam, we do not like to see people suffer.
The United States sent relief to Pakistan after the earthquake, there are U.S charities dedicated to setting up temporary shelters for the Pakistani people, there are U.S charities to buy Afghani children shoes and coats for the Winter, there are charities to help the people of Africa, as a family we have given money for a charity in Uganda, ravaged by Aids and poverty.

There isn't one thing that Somalia has that anyone wants, much less the United States -- I am sure you believe there is an imperial motive behind all our aid, the Islamic courts may bring "peace" to those whom it agrees with, it will bring death, suffering and anguish to anyone it appose's, but it will not bring the other things that Somalia needs, jobs, food and an equal rule of Law, it will keep Somalis in crushing poverty, and chaos just like the Taliban did for Afghanistan, it will systematically irradicate your history, your cultures, music, art and literature as all pre-islamic history is purged forever from your culture, those who sing the old songs, and hold to the traditions will die by the sword, condemned to death by a kangaroo court of the privileged Mullah's who live better than any Somali citizen.
I hope you wake up White Trash, because even the Muslim faithful will be tried by fire, by the Islamic courts, mark my words.

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Posted by: DemocracyRules at November 29, 2006 03:41 PM (+WNUd)

2 and just what is Bush supposed to do in Darfur?  The last time he took up the cause of getting rid of a genocide ie: Kurds, Shite he got kicked around so much that now he really cannot just decimate the enemy.  I can see it now we send in troops innocent people get killed the UN and Democrats say it was the right thing to do at the time however we are now murderers and have to accept an honorable defeat and get out.  Implant any country that you think we should be in and you can use Iraq as a template for how it will go as long as a Republican is handling the war.  I think there is a civil war going on in France should we go there to?  I mean really we Americans couldn't stick together on the war in Iraq and we should now be looking at more places, please.  I want everyone to remember that 83% of the public thought it was the right thing to do(going into Iraq) 3 weeks after we took down Bagdad and what is that number now? 

Posted by: Rightmom at November 29, 2006 04:34 PM (0lpqx)

3 I'm for keeping our noses out of Africa. Whoever adopts these orphan countries will pay and pay and wish they would have stayed out.
 
 
Does anyone realize that these countries have been starving for 50 years. They will continue to have starving babies as having babies they can't care for is their # 1 priority in life. What happens when you have a well fed healthy African woman? She has 11 kids that have 11 kids that grow up to starve. Same senario over and over.  Just how long shall we feed them? A bigger queston is how long can we feed them? If all men are equal they can figure out their own problems. Haven't the Somallis shown us what they think of our interference in their country. Remember the American soldiers dragged through the streets? The Sudan, Somalia, Chad, etc., these countries (if you care to call them that) are nothing but another burden on whoever is stupid enough to take them. Let the muslims have them. I don't wish for anymore American boys to die for backward idiots that can't take care of themselves. AND I DON'T WISH FOR ANY OF THEM TO MOVE HERE.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 29, 2006 06:06 PM (0TutP)

4 The sudan can now officially be referred to as being in  a state of civil war. The racial, ethnic, and religious violence are out of control. Genocide is being committed against the left's favored race.


NBC is all over this. Isn't it? Matt Liar, where are you?

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 29, 2006 07:07 PM (bLPT+)

5 No blood for oil.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 29, 2006 08:27 PM (yJKSD)

6 Greygoose
You bigoty is showing ...again. So is your ignorance. To go on would be redundant at this point.

Posted by: No Fear at November 30, 2006 05:01 AM (ZQepB)

7 Yea. I'm bigoted against ugly, stupid, dingbat women like you. Bitch. Where's my E-mail? Lying bitch, thought you said you wouldn't post here anymore.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 30, 2006 08:05 AM (0TutP)

8 Notice how these stupid trolls like no fear don't refute the comments. Just the commenter. Typical lefturd responce from a typical lefturd. Screw you bitch. That is if you can find anyone low enough to screw you. I'll bet money the one who used to screw you left your dumb ass years ago. Maybe you can find someone from the Sudan to be your old man. Birds of a feather.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 30, 2006 08:10 AM (0TutP)

9 Greygoose,
I'm dissapointed this a.m. Is that the best you can do?

As for refuting your post, comment and commenter, I thought I had done just that. Just in case it went over your head. You sir are a bigot. Your comment was bigoted. You are ignorant. Your comment was was the born of that. Clear enough?

Posted by: No Fear at November 30, 2006 09:53 AM (ZQepB)

10 Lying bitch, thought you said you wouldn't post here anymore.

Being a woman, I didn't lie, I simply changed my mind. Women do that ya know.

You didn't know that? You truly are an ignorant, bigoted, misogynistic, prick. 

Posted by: No Fear at November 30, 2006 10:00 AM (ZQepB)

11 BTW, where's my Thanksgiving pictures? 

Posted by: No Fear at November 30, 2006 10:15 AM (ZQepB)

12 @Greygoose
"Lying bitch?"
Nice manners.
Do you kiss your mother with that mouth.
Wait, don't answer that. I'm sure you do.
After you dust her body off from the grime that's collected in the trunk of your Focus.

Posted by: Keg at November 30, 2006 11:24 AM (uShDB)

13 rooster,

we are morally required to help out in Darfur.  Aside from that, I agree with just about everything you said.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 30, 2006 11:25 AM (yJKSD)

14  morally required

Required, hey don't lose any sleep over it. It's just a requirement...for what JC, to get into heaven?

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that being a poor choice of words. (word)
 
As for the rest. I consider the source.












source [ sawrss ]



noun  (plural sourc·es)



Definition:

 

1. origin: the place, person, or thing through which something has come into being or from which it has been obtained

Posted by: No Fear at November 30, 2006 11:50 AM (ZQepB)

15 for what JC, to get into heaven?

No.  Christians aren't saved by works. 

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 30, 2006 01:09 PM (yJKSD)

16 No Fear: You're nothing but a welfare idiot living off the dole of others. Of course I'm a bigot. I told you I'm bigoted against lying bitches who draw a welfare check. Go to work bitch. Of course who would hire someone as fat, dumb and ugly as you.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 30, 2006 05:55 PM (0TutP)

17 comment #12 Fuck you and mind your own business. prick.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 30, 2006 05:56 PM (0TutP)

18 Carlos: Why are we morally required to help out in Darfur? Apparently we aren't morally required to help out white people on the Gulf Coast or black ones in the Gettos of America. Name a country we have helped that hasn't turned on us. We helped Korea and half the nation turned on us. We helped Vietnam and the entire nation turned on us. We helped Iraq and they're turning on us. We helped Iran and they turned on us. We helped France and they turned on us. We helped Panama and they turned on us. We helped Bosnia and they turned on us. The list goes on and on. No one we have ever helped is our friend today. Only the nations that stood on their own can be called friends. England, Austrialia, New Zealand, Canada.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 30, 2006 06:03 PM (0TutP)

19 No Fear: You're nothing but a welfare idiot living off the dole of others. Of course I'm a bigot. I told you I'm bigoted against lying bitches who draw a welfare check. Go to work bitch. Of course who would hire someone as fat, dumb and ugly as you.
=========
Dear Asshole,
 Not that you'll ever admit to believing anything I sy, but what the hell, I'll give it a shot. I'm a retired Federal Employee. I have gone back to school to become a Victims Rights Advocate. OK?

BTW, have you paid your taxes? (Hint)
 
To comment on your rant above. No I don't think I will. I'd rather address JC.
==================

for what JC, to get into heaven?

No.  Christians aren't saved by works.
==================
 
Thank you. I am so sick of people doing what appears to be right for the wrong reasons. Doesn't anyone want to do the right thing anymore, just because it's the right thing to do?
I not going to pretend to have all the answers to the worlds problems, I don't. But we should all give what we can where we can. If Dafur, isn't your thing then help out somewhere else, just help. Just don't condem others for wanting to help someone who isn't a piority of yours.
The way I see it we all only get so many trips around the sun. We owe it to our children to leave this world a better place than we found it. For them.
=========================

Posted by: No Fear at December 01, 2006 09:30 AM (ZQepB)

20 Oh and btw Greygoose....

Greygoose
"Lying bitch?"
Nice manners.
Do you kiss your mother with that mouth.
Wait, don't answer that. I'm sure you do.
After you dust her body off from the grime that's collected in the trunk of your Focus.

Posted by: Keg at November 30, 2006 11:24 AM

===============
17 comment #12 Fuck you and mind your own business. prick.
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 30, 2006 05:56 PM
================
Keg is a woman too.  You just don't get it, and you never will.

Posted by: No Fear at December 01, 2006 10:15 AM (ZQepB)

21 Women: Not by normal standards. Bitch. Retired Federal Employee. Knew you were on the dole. Now it seems you've been on the dole all your life. Like I said. Fat, dumb and ugly. Dog ugly.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 01, 2006 10:25 AM (uBw3u)

22 Stick your nose in other peoples' busness Keg probably looks like a Keg.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 01, 2006 10:26 AM (uBw3u)

23 Hey Grey,
Remember when I told you that all you have to do is to keep talking? That everything you say tells me everything I need to know about you?
So know you have something agaist Federal employee's do ya? Just what do you think Bush is? Is he on the dole. Maybe I'll forward your comment on.

BTW,  HAVE YOU PAID YOUR TAXES?

Posted by: No Fear at December 01, 2006 11:52 AM (ZQepB)

24 No fear,

I don't have a problem with people doing the right thing for the "wrong" reasons.  I care about the results, not the motives.  That's pragmatism vs ideological purity.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 01, 2006 12:07 PM (yJKSD)

25 I have a lot against some federal employees like you. Who live off the rest of us because they are to fat, dumb, lazy and ugly to do anything else. Low life bitches like you couldn't possibly make it in the private sector. Have you found a boyfriend in the Sudan yet?  Or are you to ugly for the men over there to.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 01, 2006 02:53 PM (18uRb)

26 LOL@Greygoose.
Yup, you pegged me. Horribly ugly, fat and living off welfare.
That changes, in NO way, what a fucking piece of sludge, and what a boil on the ass of humanity, you are.
Can I send you a crotch shot?
Might look like your mum's. God, what a turn on for you.

Posted by: Keg at December 01, 2006 03:21 PM (uShDB)

27 No thanks. Probably smells to bad after your visits to the ghetto.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 01, 2006 06:11 PM (18uRb)

28 Oh, don't hate, Rooster...
Don't hate.
Give into the love from fat, slovenly Democrats.
C'mon. It's better than your mom, in the trunk of your Focus, that you offed when she laughed at how small your dick was....
Don't hate, brother.
Give in to the dark side.

Posted by: Keg at December 01, 2006 06:21 PM (uShDB)

29 lol Keg
 
G(r)ayRooster definatly not seen your pic
He'd hate it! it's a pic of a smart, inteligent, cute woman
Your not his type! Not enought between your legs for his liking
 
Woooo

Posted by: sol at December 01, 2006 08:57 PM (lvaIO)

30 Smart, intelligent and cute. Doubt it. Those that talk like whores, usually are whores. And she talks like a ugly whore. Not enough between her legs? Doubt that to. Probably has plenty between her legs.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 01, 2006 10:48 PM (BMcPj)

31 I love you, Greyrooster.
I have a serious crush on you.
Wow.
What's your number?

Posted by: Keg at December 02, 2006 12:02 AM (uShDB)

32 OMG!
or, if you're not comfy giving your number out,
email me, baby
kissmyass@fatassbabies.com
Get in touch. I totally love you!

Posted by: Keg at December 02, 2006 12:13 AM (uShDB)

33 Ass to smelly to kiss. But the fat assed part is probably true.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 02, 2006 08:14 AM (0ZUKd)

34 GhayRoooster! stop putting yourself down!!
 
I know a lot of guys who'd love to kiss your "smelly ass"! (I'm NOT one of them)
 
But you just have to comes to terms with yourself first!!
 
 
 

Posted by: sol at December 02, 2006 05:16 PM (fuinW)

35 Rooster,
I think someone needs a hug.
C'mere you old self-righteous blow-hard.
<<<<hug>>>>

Posted by: VD at December 02, 2006 07:08 PM (QbGNI)

36 I give the Rooster a <<<<hug>>>>
 
I will hug anything that moves.
 

Posted by: Frank Booth at December 02, 2006 07:39 PM (rIWvK)

37 Hugs all around to Rooster.
Don't hate.
Learn to love the fat-bottomed girls.
(other than your mother, sweetheart.)
I love you
call me!

Posted by: Keg at December 02, 2006 07:52 PM (uShDB)

38

Oh keg you big softy you <<<hugs>>> from Denver

 

Posted by: Frank Booth at December 02, 2006 07:56 PM (rIWvK)

39 PS sorry about USC
 

Posted by: Frank Booth at December 02, 2006 08:01 PM (rIWvK)

40 We won't talk about it...

Posted by: Keg at December 02, 2006 08:02 PM (uShDB)

41 I want to talk about my fat-ass crush on the Rooster....
I love you baby.

Posted by: Keg at December 02, 2006 08:45 PM (uShDB)

42 I'm bored...

" I have a lot against some federal employees like you. Who live off the rest of us because they are to fat, dumb, lazy and ugly to do anything else. Low life bitches like you couldn't possibly make it in the private sector. Have you found a boyfriend in the Sudan yet? Or are you to ugly for the men over there to."

would be "too" fat, dumb, lazy, and ugly to
"Low-life"
"too ugly"
for the men over there "too"

Rooster, do you have a dictionary in your trailer?
or in the trunk of your Focus which, hopefully, your mum hasn't bled all over?

Posted by: Keg at December 02, 2006 10:46 PM (uShDB)

43 Way to go Rooster...prove your a racist and a bigot and hen start insulting women...real smooth
 
Why do those who can't argue a point resort to name calling?
 
By the way Rooster...countries tend to help out and stand by their alliles if they dont feel like we are only helping to help ourselves.  Nothing the US has ever done in the US was humanitarian based.  It was all done to protect our interests...and once we "helped" the governments there, we propped up whatever leader WE wanted regardless of the will of the people.
 
You speak of other countries who do not support us now...well if you are using Iraqnam as a guideline in this, then you are greatly mistaken...a true friend and ally has the balls to tell you that you are wrong.  So I guess that makes us GREAT friends because I have never before met someone whose understanding of world politics was as dumb as yours.
 
Sorry pal...you are wrong.  But only a friend would have the stones to actually stand up to you and tell you so.

Posted by: 9firedawg6 at December 03, 2006 01:29 PM (b1TGU)

44

Love being called a racist (I am one) and a bigot by an asshole who obviously hates the United States. Right asshole we are on different trails. My politics dumb? Ignorant liberal prick. Prove one thing I've said dealing with politics that is wrong. Come to the aid of cunts like no fear and keg. Because you're another one. So fuck you Pansy. Some of us don't need to kiss a whores ass to get laid.

 

 

No fear bitch: Worried about my trailer. Don't, it has a 350 cummings diesel engine and is called a Discovery. You can bet it costs more than you house. That is if a single mom like yourself can afford a house.

Posted by: Greyrooster at December 04, 2006 08:15 AM (qWbYR)

45 http://yandex.ru

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UPDATE: Confirmed. Alternate spelling is Ibrahim Hassan Addou and he is an American citizen. Much more information in this post.
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I was reading through the headlines today to see if fighting has begun between our allies in Ethiopia and the jihadis of the Islamic Courts Union which now run most of Southern Somalia, when I came across something interesting.

The head of The Foreign Relations Department of the Islamic Courts Union, Ibrahim Hassan Addow, is an American citizen.

How bad is the Islamic Courts Union? Bad enough that we have dubbed them the 'African Taliban'. They wish to impose strict sharia law on the citizens of Somalia, just like the Afghani Taliban. They also have ties to al Qaeda, just like the Afghani Taliban. And just like the Afghani Taliban, they deny that they are extremists and that they have ties to terrorists.

So, who is Ibrahim Hassan Addow? I have no idea. In fact, I can find no information on him prior to his association with the jihadis now running much of Somalia. But he claims to be an American. UPDATE: Critical information found on Ibrahim Hassan Addou. He worked at American University in Washington, D.C., and now heads a university in Mogadishu.

Since the title "Professor" is often attached to his names in media reports, is it possible he taught at the University level in the United States? If so, is there any one out there who knows anything about him?

He seems to be the main spokesman for the ICU abroad and has participated in several international conferences aimed at bringing peace to Somalia. Perhaps he was chosen for this job because of his US citizenship and status as an educated man.

I'm thinking that he is probably a naturalized citizen--that is, that he immigrated to the United States and became a citizen at some point--not that he was born here. But, since the US has stated in no uncertain terms that the Islamic Courts Union of Somalia has ties to the global jihad and is harboring al Qaeda terrorists who bombed the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, would that not make Ibrahim Addow a traitor?

On top of that it is the Islamic Courts Union themselves who claimed the warlords they were recently victorious over were backed by the US government then would this not make him a traitor times two? The organization he is the spokeman for claims it is fighting US backed forces!

I hope somebody somewhere is working on revoking his citizenship. Or brininging him back for a speedy trial followed by some Texas style justice.

Here we have a guy who is trying to put the happy face on a regime that murders people for watching soccer or for not praying or for converting to Christianity [insert any other number of 'crimes' here] and which has recently declared jihad against Ethiopia. Nice.

Oh, and since I was originally looking for whether or not the Somalians and Ethiopians were now officially at war, you might want to know that the answer is yes. The African Taliban claimed today that Ethiopian troops began to shell ICU held positions. They've also invited Muslims from around the world to join the jihad in Somalia.

Which contradicts all earlier statements made by the ICU that there were no foreign fighters in Somalia and there is no connection between the ICU and the global jihad.

UPDATE: As if on cue, the Islamists release a video called: Somalia, apostate hell. Hell for apostates they mean. more...

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It's official: war between Ethiopia and the African Taliban of the Islamic Courts Union of Somalia. The Somalian Islamists have declared jihad against Ethiopia and Ethiopia has sent troops into Somalia.

We have been warning the world about the rise of the Islamic Courts Union for some time now. The dhimmis of the European Union and the US State Department have repeated the mistakes of Afghanistan and some even welcomed the Islamists to power by declaring that at least the group would bring stability.

But stability at what price? The same stability bought by years of ignoring the growing threat of Taliban Afghanistan.

Many of the so-called warlords of Somalia, such as Mohammed Farah Aidid, were intimately connected to the global jihad. It was Osama bin Laden's succesful support of Aidid that seems to have convinced him and many of his followers that 'the Shiekh' possessed mystical foretelling powers.

It seems that both the Europeans and the State Department have awakened to the threat posed by the Salafi jihadis in Somalia. In our public statements we hope for a diplomatic solution, but privately, it seems, we know with whom our collective fates lie. We hope that the State Department's continued calls for diplomacy are simply tactical. Perhaps they believe we can win by keeping the war a matter internal to Somalia? We cannot imagine that they belive their own press.

Like the Afghani Taliban before them, the Islamic Courts Union declares that all they want is peace, stability, and prosperity. But in deeds they are receiving funding from Islamists around the world --including reliable reports that al Qaeda and other foreign jihadis have flocked to the country-- and they are aready exporting jihad. If Somalia completely falls to the Islamic Courts Union it will become a haven for international terrorism and Salafi jihad.

That is why the US military has been quietly aiding the Ethiopian and other governments in the Horn of Africa. The US has a large presence in the neighboring country of Djibouti.

The US military has recently helped flood relief efforts in Ethiopia. The US has also been quietly training the Ethiopian military for the fight to come with the Somalian Islamists.

US military observers are also in neighboring Kenya.

Now, for the first time, the Ethipian government is admitting that it has sent troops into Somalia. Civilians are clearing out as the battlefield is prepared to go from small to large-scale war.

The question remains, though, whether or not the war can be contained in Somalia? The African Taliban of Somalia are being supported by Eritrea. Eritrea and Ethiopia have been involved in several hot wars recently and many consider the present Somalian conflict to be a proxy war between the two states.

These analysts are wrong only inasmuch as they fail to comprehend the global dimensions of the conflict. Somalia is the battleground for a proxy war, but not simply between Eritrea and Ethiopia--it is a proxy war between global Islamists forces trying to establish a foothold for the future caliphate against the West.

This explains Iran's involvement in aiding the Somali Islamists. Even though they come from different branches of Islam, the Sunni Islamic Courts Union and the Shia Mullahs of Iran share a hatred for secularism, liberalism, and the West. Further, they share the goal of sharia and the Caliphate. Where they part company is over who's sharia and where the Caliph should live--Tehran or Baghdad?

Such long-term differences are easily overlooked when short term interests are congruent. The Iranians help Sunni groups such as Hamas and the Islamic Court's Union in efforts to defeat common enemies and win future influence.

This is The Clash of Civilizations. We can hope and pretend that such a global clash does not exist, but it does. This is reality. Why is this clash being fought in Somalia? Simple, because Ethiopia is bordered by Muslim states. As Huntington said, in his prophetic book that now seems like it was published an eternity ago: the borders of Islam are bloody.

Ethiopia can wait for the Islamic Courts Union to solidify power and then begin to export jihad or it can go to Somalia and fight. And for the US, we have the same options: wait for another bin Ladenist state to emerge and then suffer the consequences or choose strategic allies now and make sure they win.

Unfortunately, it's not always easy to see which allies have a chance and which don't. In the present conflict, the CIA already picked the wrong horses by supplying arms to Somali clan leaders who were easily beaten by the jihadis. We already tried to contain the fight to Somalians fighting other Somalians, but failed.

Now open war looms. The US should make it clear which side of this conflict we are on. We stand with Ethiopia and Somalians who are terrified of the coming sharia state. A state which outlaws music and proscribes the death penalty for any Muslim who should dare renounce his religion.

Supporting Ethiopia is not only the right thing to do, it is also in our national interest. more...

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Quick question:

Some folks have expressed their opinion that we shouldn't concern ourselves with Darfur while we have problems at home or worse disasters elsewhere around the world.

How is this different from saying that we shouldn't have invaded Iraq because we didn't take military action against more flagrant proliferation violators, such as North Korea, or depose more despotic regimes, such as Zimbabwe?

There's evidently a more subtle point I am missing that animates this flavor of critique, and I'm just trying to better understand that point of view.

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Judging by the newly arrived décor I am seeing in storefronts, the holiday season is evidently upon us once again. As you already know, two friends and I are going to spend our holiday in Chad to film footage for a documentary (Christmas in Darfur), capture the feel of conditions on the ground, and interview the extraordinary people who have given and risked so much to lend a hand in a portion of the world that needs all the help it can get. I would like to thank those who have already contributed for their help and generosity in getting us started towards our goals. more...

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Here is a comment from a Somalian reader calling himself Hajji Dheere. The Hajj in his name indicates he's made the pilgrimage to Mecca. His IP traces to the Univesity of Ottawa. It's great to see that Canada's liberal assylum laws are finally paying off!

I'd start here if I was looking to find Dheere.

I wonder what our good Ethiopian readers have to say to Hajj Dheere?:

Bring it on loser. We'll take you ALL kaafirs on...you, Bush, and your Ethiopian Tigrai Habashi slaves....

Bring it on Ethiopians...your dead will litter the streets of Mugadishu worse than the 19 American special forces (Delta & Rangers), IF you get that far. A 3rd world country like Ethiopia will certainly not defeat us even with US help. If that is the case then we shall go to our Muslim brothers and seek arms too.

We live, eat, and breath WAR. You would be better of keep working your feilds and beggin the west for food Ethiopians. But if you wanna die, then follow Meles Zenawi's regime and come to Somalia and fight us.

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One of The Jawa Report's first collaboraters, BRD, is heading to Darfur. Yeah, we actually want to help the Muslim brown people. I'm proud to say that I've actually met this guy. I've been wondering what he's been doing lately. Unlike the rest of us here at the Jawa corporate offices, he's been doing good. Not just wasting company time surfing for porn.

If you can spare some cash, go to the Christmas in Darfur website and donate. If you're in the D.C. area, they're also holding a benefit concert tonight.

In addition to liking brown people and Muslims, BRD also like the J-O-Os. Or maybe he's just blegging at Goldstein's site because those people have all the money?

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(Nairobi, Kenya) Disturbingly, political turmoil in East Africa escalates daily. Kenya today imposed a ban on regular flights to and from Somalia. However, with an application completed a week ahead of time, charter flights will be allowed.

From AllAfrica.com:

Concerns about possible terrorist attacks from Somalia have been raised lately, with the United States warning last week that both Kenya and Ethiopia could be targets of suicide attacks by "extremist elements" from Somalia.

The British minister of State, Dr Kim Howells, who visited Kenya early this month also warned that the threat of terrorism targeting British interests in Kenya was real.

The uncertain situation in Somalia, coupled with a porous and expansive border made Kenya a soft target for terrorists, said Dr Howells, who is in charge of counter-terrorism.

Averaging ten departures daily, cargo flights to Somalia customarily transport sugar, textile, electronics, bottled water, fresh vegetables, butter, milk and miraa (khat). Miraa or khat is an addictive, narcotic drug used extensively in East Africa and a major Kenyan cash crop.

One may presume that the 'extremist elements' in Somalia are fairly glassy-eyed from khat as they traipse through the countryside capturing village after village. With khat shipments halted, it's possible that the Islamists will be drawn toward invading the drug-growing region of northern Kenya, through the porous border, of course.

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What do Somalian Sunni extremists with ties to al Qaeda have in common with the Shia mullahs of Iran? The 'African Taliban' of the Somali Courts Union need weapons to solidify their control and establish an Islamic state in the Horn of Africa. The Mullahs of Iran need uranium to fuel their nuclear ambitions.

Somalia has uranium, Iran has arms.

Is Iran secretly buying uranium from Islamists in Somalia? That is what a new U.N. report which indicates:

Iran may have sought to trade arms for uranium from Somalia or elsewhere in Africa to fuel its nuclear ambitions.

And there is also new evidence that elements of al Qaeda are involved in Somalia, and that Somalia has begun to export the jihad elsewhere. As I've been saying for months, Somalia is the next Afghanistan. An Islamic state in Somalia (which is already a reality in most parts of the country) is every bit as dangerous to U.S. national interests as the Taliban were in Afghanistan. more...

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The African Taliban are upset that during recent talks the Somali government and the rest of the world did not submit to their will. So in order to convince Ethiopia and other Christians to get in line, they will try their favorite tactic, blowing shit up.

International Herald Tribune:NAIROBI, Kenya: Extremists in Somalia have threatened to carry out suicide bombings in the Horn of Africa, the U.S. embassy in Nairobi said Thursday, the latest sign that the chaos in Somalia could engulf this volatile region.

The embassy, in a warning to Americans living or traveling in Kenya, said it has received reports of "extremist elements" targeting Kenya, Ethiopia and "surrounding countries," which it did not name.

"These threats specifically mention the execution of suicide explosions in prominent landmarks within Kenya and Ethiopia. American citizens are advised to remain vigilant and to use extreme caution when frequenting prominent public places," the statement said. A spokeswoman at the embassy said she had not seen the warning and could not comment.

Suicide attacks are exceedingly rare in Somalia. In September, Somali President Abdullahi Yusuf narrowly escaped a suicide car bomb; that was believed to be the first time such a tactic was used in the country…

…The U.S. embassy's warning came one day after talks collapsed between Somalia's official government and the Islamic group, which has taken over the capital, Mogadishu, and much of the country's south since June. The government, meanwhile, controls only the western city of Baidoa.

A leading member of the militia Thursday blamed Ethiopia for the breakdown.

Remember for the African Taliban (and most Islamic Radicals), their hirabah is always the other guys fault. They thought they might have been wrong once but they were mistaken.

Oyster asked for a map, here you go. more...

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1 Just becouse US Embessy say so is true give me a break the fact is that Ethiopia and the rest of the Christians are the terrorrist and needs to be stoped becouse they are high on crack and child molestation look at Ethiopia they can not even them selfs and Somalis defeated them and their Christain felows more then ten times u dig

Posted by: Abdia at November 02, 2006 03:38 PM (BXpDr)

2 Howie,
Any word from the Illinois Taliban yet? The Texas Taliban has been mum so far.

Posted by: Greg at November 02, 2006 04:31 PM (v7DMp)

3 Nope but I did see one guy and his wife in a black burqa but that was the Kentucky Taliban.

Posted by: Darth Odie at November 02, 2006 04:33 PM (D3+20)

4 I'd be interested to know where Abdia is located to be so well informed on what's happening around Somalia.

Posted by: Oyster at November 02, 2006 04:42 PM (I+VdL)

5 H:"Nope but I did see one guy and his wife in a black burqa but that was the Kentucky Taliban."

That was his horse with a feeder bag on.

Posted by: Greg at November 02, 2006 04:44 PM (v7DMp)

6 Three way military intelligence co-operation signed:-

Tel Aviv, Isreal:- A pact that will enable Isreal to share military intelligence between the Island nation of Madagascar and the horn of African country of Ethiopia has been signed on October 27, 2006. According to the agreement Israli security officials will be training Ethiopian and Madagascar security officials in countering infiltration and terrorisim. Ethiopia, that is in a war foot with its northern and southern neighbours fears terrorist attacks in its cities and landmarks coming, especially from Somali jihadists. Madagascar, a well known transit stop for illicit drug traffickers also seeks to share Isreali security officials experience to catch drug traffic agents and to control their infiltration of its borders.

Isreali Defence Forces have been training Ethiopian air force pilots for the last 48 years. The Jewish people and the Ethiopians have a long relationship that dates back thousands of years. After the nation of Isreal established in 1948, Ethiopia was the only African nation to accept the Jewish state as a sovereign nation. Thousands of Ethiopian jews live in Isreal as part of Isreal's 'right to return' (aliah) policy. Madagascar is one of the handful African nations that has a full diplomatic relationship with Isreal.


Humm....this could be a good news for us, Ethiopians. In order to ptotect ourselves from these barberic murderers, we need all kinds of help we can get from the civilized world.

Posted by: Benjamin at November 02, 2006 04:47 PM (LMrXC)

7 Even Greg gets lucky and comes with a good one.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 02, 2006 04:58 PM (cNF2m)

8 Oyster

The U.S. embassy's warning came one day after talks collapsed between
Somalia's official government and the Islamic group, which has taken
over the capital, Mogadishu, and much of the country's south since
June. The government, meanwhile, controls only the western city of
Baidoa.

Another interesting thing Juba is also a city there.  In the south.

I'll look around and see what I can find.

Posted by: Darth Odie at November 02, 2006 04:58 PM (D3+20)

9 Oyster Updated with map.

Posted by: Darth Odie at November 02, 2006 05:02 PM (D3+20)

10 Don't see a city by that name?

Posted by: Darth Odie at November 02, 2006 05:06 PM (D3+20)

11 "Ethiopian leader warns on Islamists" & so & so_ a fake signal by Zenawi

Dear editor,
This warning is a fake signal by Meles Zenawi to make business and don't echo it without giving due attention to the reality on the ground. The Zenawi regime is on the verge of collapse and is seeking some business to bail him out, so he has to provoke war to receive fund from those delusionned by "terrorism". It seems he temporarily successes to secure some fund to strengthen his war machine to massacre his dissents at home.

If it were not for Zenawi's involvement, the court could not rally significant support from Somalis and would not survive its own internal contradiction. The Somalis are too liberal by nature to get easily subdued to such radical belief. If the businessman, Zenawi, withdraws from the premises, the Somalis will take care of the court without any assistance from outside. If at all terrorism were to prosper in this country, the past turbulent years in Somalia was the best time not now; therefore let us condemn the brutal dictator Meles Zenawi for his act of instigating war in the region and withdraw his forces immediately and he should be told, the cold war era has changed and he can not win this game and be rewarded.

Please refer to ethiomedia and ethioforum.org websites to find out the Meles regime’s sponsored religious conflict and the massacre of Christians by his undercover agents to “convince” the world that Islam radicalism has already taken root in Ethiopia.

Thank you

Posted by: annonymus at November 02, 2006 05:09 PM (nuqJL)

12 Who is the retard Muslim? I'm not talking about you, Greg, even if the retard comment does fit.

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2006 05:18 PM (rUyw4)

13 Sorry Oyster I'm kinda dense.  Thought Abdia was a city.  to answer your question Abdia is in Kansas.
So that was the Kansas Taliban.

Posted by: Darth Odie at November 02, 2006 05:23 PM (D3+20)

14 Jeez Darth,
Don't you know women have enough trouble reading maps even if you don't hand it to them upside down?

Posted by: Greg at November 02, 2006 05:28 PM (v7DMp)

15 STFU beotch Just give me few minutes here.

Posted by: Darth Odie at November 02, 2006 05:31 PM (D3+20)

16 "Abu El Fadl believes this kind of language will actually resonate well in the Islamic world."
Yeah, right. Semantics is the key to winning this fight and Greg has a spinal chord. Who the f**k is he kidding? The horn of Africa needs to be erased off the map. MOABs can make this happen in a nice, conventional kind of way. This Islamic threat needs to be stopped before it walks right up and knocks on our door.

Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at November 02, 2006 05:45 PM (DlfZ3)

17 Again.

Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at November 02, 2006 05:46 PM (DlfZ3)

18 Just using a new term I learned.

Posted by: Darth Odie at November 02, 2006 05:47 PM (D3+20)

19 be careful editor, you have a jihad sympathizer in here! lol

The guy who posted anti ethiopia comment on this board is trying to do what the jihadist somali terrorists declared.
From what i read on yahoo.com, the plan of the jihadist extremists is to separate the Ethiopian government from its christian people and from the Western governments. So their strategy is just to spread negativity about the Ethiopian government.

Dear Ethiopian christians, we understand what you are facing!! We give you our blessings and our support to destroy as many jihadists as possible!

God bless America and its new ally, Ethopia

The world will one day be free from extremists and be in peace!

Posted by: David. G at November 02, 2006 07:45 PM (UKevH)

20 Dream on.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 03, 2006 07:38 AM (cNF2m)

21 You stupid ididot, the liberation fighters you call "Talibans" in Somalia have give more freedom and peace in Soamalia more than anyone else in the last 20 years. Do you think a starved nation and US puppet regine like Ethiopis can bring peace and stability in Somalia... Give me a break! I think you should lay off doing you crack and ger a real job!!!!

Posted by: U_idiot at November 03, 2006 08:27 AM (iYPEX)

22 You stupid ididot, the liberation fighters you call "Talibans" in Somalia have give more freedom and peace in Soamalia more than anyone else in the last 20 years. Do you think a starved nation and US puppet regine like Ethiopis can bring peace and stability in Somalia... Give me a break! I think you should lay off doing you crack and ger a real job!!!!

Posted by: U_idiot at November 03, 2006 08:27 AM (iYPEX)

23 You stupid ididot, the liberation fighters you call "Talibans" in Somalia have give more freedom and peace in Soamalia more than anyone else in the last 20 years. Do you think a starved nation and US puppet regine like Ethiopis can bring peace and stability in Somalia... Give me a break! I think you should lay off doing you crack and ger a real job!!!!

Posted by: U_idiot at November 03, 2006 08:27 AM (iYPEX)

24 I know at one point the half starved ethiopians will rign on the somal talibans and that will be the end of jihadist in africa. they tought they found a scape goat to heal their wound by attacking weak country like ethiopia. but they are wrong all wrong -

Posted by: annonymus at November 03, 2006 09:33 AM (Rowx4)

25 I know at one point the half starved ethiopians will rign on the somal talibans and that will be the end of jihadist in africa. they tought they found a scape goat to heal their wound by attacking weak country like ethiopia. but they are wrong all wrong -

Posted by: annonymus at November 03, 2006 09:34 AM (Rowx4)

26 Have a look at the following images from southwest Ethiopia on the recent massacre of christians.  I think the african taliban may have inspired it.
http://www.ethrev.com/news/Oct2006/10312006photos_jimma_massacre.html

Posted by: ReligionOfPeace? at November 03, 2006 11:24 AM (F1nba)

27 Ignore the date on the pictures.  The setting on the camera may not have been done properly.

Posted by: ReligionOfPeace? at November 03, 2006 11:27 AM (F1nba)

28 U Idiot: You muslim assholes just get dumber and dumber by the day. I guess when you follow the teachings of a dumb ass pedophile what can be expected. Mohammed sucks and so do you.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 03, 2006 11:28 AM (cNF2m)

29 The dumber than dumberers were intentionally setting the date on the camera as part of their fauxtography to make it look current. Just a bit too current, the dumb asses!

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at November 03, 2006 09:06 PM (Dd86v)

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Bad news: some Muslims who converted to Christianity were attacked by a mob in Ethiopia led by local clerics. Apostasy is a capital offense under Islamic law.

Good news: some other Muslims denounced the attack. Oh, and then they left Islam because apparently it's not such a religion of peace after all.

UPDATE: Q: Is this what they mean by vicious cycle of violence? You know: a) Muslims convert to some other religions. b) Muslims attack apostates c) Muslims leave Islam in protest d) back to a

Assist News:

The Washington-DC based human rights group, International Christian Concern (ICC), has just been informed that on July 20, 7 Muslim leaders (clerics) brutally attacked 50 or more Christians in Henno, Ethiopia.

In a news release, ICC says, “This latest attack is just one example of the increasing violence against Christians in Ethiopia. In fact, Islamic leaders are urging Muslims in the area to kill full-time Christian evangelists. The situation has reached such intensity that Christian leaders are in fear and moving in pairs to ward off attacks. Local Muslim authorities failed to take action against the Muslim attackers.”...

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You know "Jihad", the struggle for inner peace that comes after careful self introspection and study of the will of Allah as laid down in the Koran and the Hadiths.

BBC:Somalia's Islamists have accused Ethiopian troops of attacking a town and have vowed a "holy war" in revenge.

The town of Bur Haqaba lies on the road from the government base in Baidoa to the Islamist-held capital, Mogadishu.

Ethiopia denies that its troops have crossed the border but does support the government against the Islamists.

An Islamist leader, wearing fatigues and holding an AK-47, said a "jihad" had been declared on Ethiopia, raising fears of a regional conflict.

"Heavily armed Ethiopian troops have invaded Somalia," said Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, seen as a moderate within the Union of Islamic Courts (UIC).
"They have captured Bur Haqaba. History shows that Somalis always win when they are attacked from outside."

Or shoot somebody, a Nun in the back maybe?

Hat Tip: ALLAHPUNDIT AT Hot Air.

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The advancement of the Union of Islamic Courts in Somalia is continuing almost unchecked. They now control up to the border with Ethiopia and are increasing their control. Arresting journalists and closing radio stations that report any dissenting views.

Somalinet: Forces loyal to Islamic Courts have captured villages of Kalaber and Jawil in Hiran region north of Somalia and bordering with Ethiopia on Saturday - reports say. It is part of Islamists’ expansion policy to entire Somalia.

Sheik Nor Ibrahim, one of the senior Islamists in Baledweyn, confirmed today that they had seized control of Kaleber and Jawil, adding that they attacked the villages with 13 battlewagons and lost one soldier. The environs are about 400km (248 miles) north of Somalia capital Mogadishu.

All Africa: The UIC militias arrested the three HornAfrik journalists - Sahro Abdi Ahmed, Layla Sheik Ismail and Adam Mohammed Salad - at around 11 a.m. (local time) on 29 September 2006, one of their colleagues told Reporters Without Borders. Ismail is also the correspondent of the Somali Broadcasting Corporation (SBC), a privately-owned radio and TV station based in Puntland, while Salad is also the correspondent of the Puntland-based Radio Daljir.

The UIC militias, who arrived in Kismayo on 24 September, were also looking for reporter Hassan Mohammed Nur and Nasteh Dahir Farah, the manager of HornAfrik's branch in Kismayo. Both went into hiding at once. Ahmed, Ismail and Salad were released a few hours later after being ordered not to refer to the Islamic courts any more….

…The UIC militiamen said they had come to the station because it had broadcast statements by inhabitants of Kismayo criticising the militias and had referred to the disturbances in the city, the third largest in Somalia, since their arrival. Many of Kismayo's inhabitants have criticised the militias' high-profile presence, the restrictions they have imposed, their replacement of the Somali flag and the fact that they fired on protesters, killing a 13-year-old child.

Also see this interview with the leader of the Islamic Courts , Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys.

(Asharq Al-Awsat) Did you issue a fatwa ordering the Vatican Pope's murder for what he said about Islam?

(Aweys) No, none of the Islamic Courts' leaders said anything of the sort, and we are not about to sanction his killing, but I feel that the Pope did not speak well about Islam and was wrong. We are however optimistic about what he said, because in the days of the first Muslims, when people spoke ill of the prophet (may God's peace and prayers be upon him), it was a sign that the Muslims would defeat them and conquer their lands.

(Asharq Al-Awsat) Does this mean that Muslims will invade the Vatican for example?

(Aweys, laughing) No, it is not like that, but I am optimistic Muslims will triumph, and you will soon see that I am right.

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