January 20, 2007

YouTube Video : Is Jade Goody a Racist?

So, the accused "racist" Jade Goody's now been evicted from the Big Brother house in the UK. I've watched only enough of "Big Brother" to know that the show is stupid. As stupid as the show is, the debate generated by the Shilpa Shetty - Jade Goody is important. The woman in this discussion (Narinder Kaur) is convinced that Jade and other members of the house are "racist."

You'll see the moderator in this clip is trying to gin up a reasoned discussion as to whether the conflict is over "race" or "culture"--without much success. This woman seamlessly conflates "culturalism," "bullying" and "racism" as if they were all the same thing. But they're not. It's not at all uncommon for a person of one race to dislike a person af a different race. That dislike my have nothing at all to do with racism.

Looking at the clips, it appears to me that Shilpa herself offended some of the UK players on multiple occasions by her own "cultural ignorance." No one seems to want to talk about this. Does the "cultural ignorance" street only run one way? Are the UK players expected to learn about and respect Shilpa's culture while Shilpa has no such burden to give the UK players the same courtesy?

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1 I kinda wonder what would have happened if this Shilpa Shetty thing happened in the American version of Big Brother instead.  Would there have been the same uproar?

Posted by: Northern Cross at January 20, 2007 03:08 PM (7vz05)

2 Having watched the growing debacle myself, and no-one has commented here on this yet, I thought I'd put my two pennorth in if that's ok.
 
  I'm not too certain on the racism issue, and there has been plenty of debate about it with some saying it was just bullying (as if that is in any way ok) and others saying it is outright racism.  I think a lot of it is the intention behind what was said.  I could call a mate of mine a bast*** but if we were laughing and joking around anyway then that's the way it would be taken, as a joke and he'd probably call me a bast*** too.  If I'd called him a bast*** and clearly had malicious intent then it goes the other way.  The police stand over here is this:  if a victim feels that an attack on them, whether physical or verbal, was racially motivated then the police are duty bound to investigate it as a racist attack.  All it needs is for the victim to say they felt it was racially motivated. 
There does appear to have been a certain degree of hatred directed towards Shilpa on the basis of her race, but most of that came from her mother (who left the BB house last week) and two other contestants, Danielle and Jo.  An example of some of the comments directed at Shilpa:  Danielle saying Shilpa should f*** off home (i.e. back to India), Jade calling her 'Shilpa Poppadum' and on another occasion 'Shilpa F****awalla'.  That last one has got to have an air of racism about it.
Shilpa is very clearly a lovely woman, with extremely good manners, very polite and gracious.  Put simply, she is everything Jade is not.  But Jade and her family began taking potshots at her from the minute they arrived in the BB house, largely over the pronounciation of Shilpa's name, which she took in very good spirit and laughed it off.  Then it began to become something of an issue in their minds, that she was a 'foreigner'.  But Shilpa still took it in good spirit, and you'd see examples of Jade's mother in the diary room mouthing off about Shilpa, describing her in progressively unpleasant ways, but from Shilpa?  Not one unpleasant word escaped her lips.  Not a single one, and she kept describing Jades mother in glowing terms completely unaware of the rather nasty attacks being made on her behind her back.  Yes there were occasions when, for example, Shilpa was laughing about Jade's accent, but there was never anything remotely nasty about it, and considering the way people had been making fun of her and her name, seems to me that criticising her over that is rather unfair.
What there can be no dounbt about though, Jade is a foul-mouthed little bully.  She has been on Big Brother before and she treated another contestant in pretty much the same way as she treated Shilpa on this one.  In that case though the woman in question, someone called Sophie, was white.  But like Shilpa she was very attractive, well educated, friendly, and kind.  Everything Jade actually isn't.  On that occasion also the bullying of Sophie attracted a large number of complaints, although nowhere near so many as on this occasion.
Jade's excuses are that she isn't a racist and she isn't a bully, and that it was all done in fun.  Well, that's the excuse bullies always come out with isn't it?  "It was just a bit of fun"?  It might be funny is everybody finds it funny.  It isn't funny when it clearly begins to cause distress to the victim and the fact that it was upsetting Shilpa more and more was plain for all to see.  But they carried on doing it, and it began to get worse, and anyone who saw Jade's appalling and aggressive tirade at Shilpa last Tuesday could plainly see there was no 'humour' behind her attacks on Shilpa at all.  It was just plain nasty.  Jade's presence appears to have been intended by Channel 4 to have been detrimental, as shown in the fact that three contestants walked out after Jade and her families arrival.  Amongst them Ken Russell who, at nearly 80 years old, was genuinely concerned that the aggressive atmosphere caused by Jade could lead to him having another stroke.  Channel 4 are just as much to blame as they seem to have only been concerned with ratings, and could have put a stop to Shilpa's treatment immediately but chose to let it run.
Racism?  Possibly Jade, definitely Jo and Danielle.  They were very demeaning towards her, and appeared to use her race as a justification for that.  Bullying and aggressive?  Jade absolutely.

Posted by: Tim at January 20, 2007 03:59 PM (mm59k)

3 Just realised, in line 15 I refer to 'her mother'.  I mean Jade's mother, not Shilpa's, lol.

Posted by: Tim at January 20, 2007 04:45 PM (mm59k)

4 Tim - thank you, come again....

Posted by: Max Power at January 20, 2007 06:09 PM (wTXNS)

5 I heard about someone who could not pronounce her name (doesn't seem too hard to me) started calling her the "Indian girl". 

Posted by: Rep J at January 20, 2007 07:29 PM (L5LRS)

6 Tee Vee is crap.  I tink most of them had shit for brians.  I dunno what you call it but it smells like asshole.  If I were the girl from India.  I was impressed with her by the way.  Not the stupid bad gay white bitch. She just mad cause she's hungry for that muffin. I din't know.  It seems its her choice to subjet herself to that for money.  You are whoring out your pride for a few bucks.  I'm white and I like the Indian chick a whole lot better.  If she wants to leave that house and cove over It woul d be dandY

What's that honey?

ER uhhh sorry I guess that's not gonna happen

She'll have to hang at Ragnar,s.  He's single.  Hear that girls? Sout al Kuffar can  be yours today.  See contacts page.  We need to get him married off, so he'll have real problems like the rest of us. 

He's rich too, or at least had 20 bucks once. I forget which one it was now.

Posted by: Darth Odie Sidiousness at January 20, 2007 08:45 PM (2cR/Y)

7 I'm not sure whether she's conscious enough to be a rascist. I think she's obviously a moron, and a bitch, but that's apparently the basis of her celebrity. Burgess at dailyablution.blogs.com has a post on this.

Posted by: Dan Collins at January 20, 2007 09:27 PM (PaHki)

Posted by: MidnightSun at January 21, 2007 02:42 AM (6/tHL)

9 India is a country, not a race. Next I'll be reading that islam is a race, or camel jockeys.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 21, 2007 09:46 AM (abVz3)

10 Does the "cultural ignorance" street only run one way?
 
Of course it's a one-way street.  Cultural ignorance by the little brown munchkin is always permissible because, well, he's a little brown munchkin and doesn't know any better.  But woe to whitey if he's culturally ignorant.  You see, whitey is like Nietche's superman, a demi-god form of human being whose ignorance therefore has no excuse.  In fact, it can't be ignorance, so it must be malice, i.e., RACISM.  That's why we can chuckle at brownie ignorance (it's never racism, and it can be sooo cute sometimes!), but whitey ignorance is always a resurgent form of Nazism that must be nuked with extreme prejudice. 

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 21, 2007 12:13 PM (8e/V4)

11 Observe how Leftardism has dumbed down Western civilization.    The bimbo on the panel doesn't have to know what the frak she's talking about as long as she tosses out the magic word-- RACISM.  Notice how she thinks it elevates her intellectually.  This is obviously the result of Leftard pc indoctrination and social engineering.   Leftards have reduced logic and reasoning to one-word grunts-- racist, sexist, homophobic, bigoted, etc.  Know the magic words and you'll do just fine.  It's so much easier than thinking.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 21, 2007 12:51 PM (8e/V4)

12 Notice that Shelpa said "I can't get along with you" and she points to coming from a different culture as the reason. I think Shelpa is the problem. Not pampered as she is used to?

Posted by: greyrooster at January 21, 2007 10:08 PM (w+w6p)

13 What you see there is multicultural Britain in full swing -- the fact is that no-one here likes anyone, including themselves.

Jane has a black dad and her mom is a muslim convert. 

So what you see is the 'fruits of tolerance'.

Bon Appetite.

Posted by: imli at January 22, 2007 12:31 PM (UaBMH)

14 To be fair Jade was not being racist at all and that is just un fair for her cause they have stopped selling her pefume that is just sad. Shilpa is sad with all the stuff jade has said to her but i dont no why there not selling her pefume NOW THAT IS JUST SAD.

Posted by: sameera at January 23, 2007 09:02 AM (Y9LHl)

15 jade goody is NOT racist i lovr jade i no she would never do that to anyoe she teats people with respect do leave ehr alone .

Posted by: kirsty at January 27, 2007 07:51 AM (dLn8s)

16 racist!!
 

Posted by: random at March 05, 2007 11:25 AM (eKZoF)

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