1 I thought that was a man wearing the yellow shirt until I saw breasts.

Although, I'm still not sure.

2 I agree.  She's obviously way ahead of the other one.

3 Jade Goodie, international ambassador.

Ick.

Will the last person to flee England in abject shame please remember to turn out the lights...?

4 indians are so pathetic. boo hoo hoo there is some strife on big brother and now we have to cry and whine and burn things in the street.

yawn.

5 Dood, is that Jermaine Jackson?  LOL, whoudathought a member of the Jackson family would ever get caught in the middle of an international incident? 

6 Did a bit of digging and it is indeed Jermaine.  Interesting stufff...he's been getting some flak in the British public ever since he called someone else "white trash" on camera, which a lot of Brits interpret as racist against whites.  It never occured to me that it was, since in this country I hear you white people using it even more than us non-whites.  But maybe it is, I dunno.  Does anyone here think that the Brits are right about that?

7 The term "white trash," like "redneck," is usually classist & culturalist, but it's also got a racial element to it when it's used by a minority. If a rich white man calls a poor white man "white trash," it's the "trash" rather than the "white."  If a trashy black woman calls a trashy white woman "white trash," it's the "white," rather than the "trash," that carries the weight. 

8 So IWO it's contextual, like when JayZ calls another African-American a "ni**er".  My white friends from college didn't seem to get offended the first time I used the term, but then we also understood that not all "white trash" is "white".  A compromise of sorts (if you can call it that, since there was no disagreement) was reached when one of my friends suggested just calling them trailer trash.  It just sounded less un-PC and all.


Ah, USCS...fun times!

9 Sleep now, here's 56 channels of trash to watch, Sleep now. The Government is in control.

10 Northern cross: And I hear blacks calling each other niggers far more than I hear white people calling blacks niggers. Must be a black thing.

11 If a trashy Black woman calls a classy White woman White trash, it's definitely racist. "White trash" is racist every time a Black person says it. If it isn't, then it isn't racist for a White person to call a Black person a nigger.


There is a huge double standard concerning racial epithets in this country. I cant count how many times I've gotten into fights over the phrase "White boy." Racist Blacks actually believe they can use anti-White slurs with impunity, because due to misplaced White guilt, they usually can.


I'm going to write something that's very politically incorrect, but something that everybody knows is axiomatic: Blacks are the worst racists in America, by far.


Let the accusations of my alleged racism fly.

12 I wrote this to incredibleindia.org, and thought it would fly here too.



I just saw the recent ad you took out in the free newspaper "London Lite", inviting jade Goody to India.
Perhaps you were unaware, but I understand she has already visited India.
I don't doubt for a minute that India is a wonderful place: in fact, my Grandfather was a Major in the British Army there during the second world war, and he had nothing but praise for the people of that country. However, in your ad you (unsurprisingly) fail to mention the appalling poverty, the utter disgrace that is the caste system and the racial tension / racism that also exists over there. This whole "Big Brother" controversy will probably prove to be a storm in a teacup, and after it dies down we will perhaps be left with the thought that you have unfairly painted Goody as a racist by taking out the advertisement. It actually seems rather cheap of you to capitalise on the issue by making the ad: almost as if you see it as an opportunity to make some business out of a negative and serious issue. Perhaps Goody bullied the actress Shilpa Shetty because Shetty somehow was looking down her nose at her, and trying to appear superior. Whilst there is no excuse for bullying, this certainly does not make Goody a racist.
Although what follows is rather long, it is penetrating, and needs to be said.
There is a often a phenomenon that certain Indian people experience when they come to Britain: it happens when a rich or renowned Indian who probably has servants and perhaps a high social standing in India expects that somehow their assumed superiority will travel with them to Britain on the plane. However, when they arrive here (unfortunately?) few people recognise this social standing (perhaps because we have our own unique class system that they find it difficult to fit into), and they subsequently often become bitter due to what they perceive as ill treatment (or incorrectly perceive as racism) over here. Perhaps an illustration or example would help here.
The first generation of Indians that came here generally worked in factories or did jobs that were considered menial. However, as you know, they invariably also worked incredibly hard, starting up small businesses such as "cash and carry" wholesale outlets or corner-shops. Their offspring have subsequently gone on to do very well educationally, in business, the medical profession and almost all other walks of life in Britain. However the unwritten "old money" side of the class system in Britain somehow often does not welcome or recognise these British Indians as one of their own: this is probably because these people are essentially "nouveau riche" - they have acquired their wealth within their generation. Now I am sure that many of these people are perfectly happy about this, and do not crave to be part of such an outmoded and silly class system. Unfortunately there are also many who, despite, for example, studying at Cambridge and being financially successful, find that they are not treated with the deference and respect that they feel they deserve. This is not racism. Britain is just the way it is: the refined upper echelons of its elite are perhaps not so easily impressed.
I lived in Dubai for a couple of years, and the Indian newspapers there were full of "lonely hearts" columns, strangely, mostly apparently written by the parents of the "lonely heart", and the point that stood out was that nearly every ad mentioned the idea of a "good family": the problem is that if every ad mentions a "good family" the concept becomes somewhat diluted. Ultimately the impression that one came away with was that Indian people have a kind of terribly snobbish class-obsessed culture (perhaps due to the shameful caste system there), and that this system (sadly echoing the British class system in some ways) can often unfortunately exclude any kind of spontaneity, freedom of choice or intrinsic respect of the decency and potential of humanity, in all its guises. Of course (although this is another issue) in the West marriage is invariably a more individual decision, that often does not involve having the prerequisite of the approval of the parents.
It was interesting to note that Shilpa Shetty said "I just want every Indian to be extremely proud that I'm in here" when she went into the Big Brother house: interesting because another contestant, the American actor Dirk Benedict, did not feel it was necessary to say "I just want every American to be extremely proud that I'm in here", in spite of the fact that he was American. One could conclude that Shetty perhaps had some kind of issues about her background or about the way that Indians are perceived in the West before she even stepped foot in the house. Either that or she was just looking for the nationalist vote.
Another interesting aside is the fact that Shetty is a "Bollywood" actress. Interesting because of the way that Bollywood films are viewed in the West. The Bollywood media often mention the fact that they produce more films per year than any other country. Whist in one sense this is impressive, in art, the concept of quantity is not really a consideration: the consideration is, if anything, of quality. The invariably melodramatic Bollywood productions are essentially a niche product: product being the apposite word. Bollywood is actually (amongst other things) a huge production line - a factory making a product, a product employing formulaic ingredients that are known to be popular with the consumer. The Bollywood film makers will often resort to plagiarism or other methods to achieve success at the box office. Because Bollywood is really more about money, and less about art. Whilst there are obviously very talented choreographers, musicians, editors, directors and actors that are involved in the production of these films, they are nonetheless generally taken lightly in terms of serious film in the West. There are some incredible songs, colours and set pieces in some of the modern (and especially vintage) Bollywood films, but these films really usually just serve merely as a means of escape (perhaps from poverty or depravation) to the millions of film-goers in India. Recently there have been several Bollywood films that have attempted to approach the idea of serious film-making, and this is to be applauded, but Bollywood films have yet to be successful in terms of critical acceptance. The fact that they critically do rather poorly in the West (for example, at the Cannes Film Festival) is not because of racism. It is because they are are essentially formulaic musicals.
So a Bollywood actress coming to Britain and expecting to be respected because she is considered to be an artist in her own country will possibly be disappointed: over here, amongst the critical and artistic elite, Bollywood movies (and subsequently Bollywood actors) are loved for their quirky and unique style, but not really taken seriously. The idea of Hamlet breaking into song is not one that we relish.
So whilst you are of course free to take out as many advertisements as you want that capitalise on the racism accusations in the "Big Brother", it would perhaps serve you well to look at the issues you face your on own doorstep.
And the next time you jump up onto your high horse, be careful to first step back, and look again. It may be a mule.




Jack Baber

13 Baber:


Great insight into a world seldom seen by Americans. I applaud you.

14 Good comments all around, and I especially liked the discussion of racist verbage, and the double standard that is shown in many cases.                          USA, all the way!

15 Of course any White person who has a disagreement with a Brown person
is a racist. Bow your head White Man and submit to your new masters!

16 I think the word "redneck" is racist, so I try not to use it.  I did not know that the Brits were of the same mindset. 

17 This will probably be the last comment of mine that any of you read on
this blog since my words obviously upset the livestock and get deleted
as fast as I can write them on most posts, but it's not really
important, since most of the regulars here seem to be useless eunuchs
anyway, and don't have the balls to do what is necessary in this war
for survival. May your new masters be merciful to you.

18 How about w i g g e r?

W i g g e r s  are a dying race and will soon
be eating s h i t.

19 Nice site!

20 Very good work!

21 herbals@drugs.com

22 herbals@durgs.com