November 06, 2006

UK Muslim 'Almost Ashamed' for Advocating Beheading Cartoon Blasphemers

Remember this guy on the right? The guy who held up placards at a protest in front of the Danish embassy calling for cartoon blasphemers to be beheaded?

His name is Mizanur Rahman and he's almost ashamed of advocating the sharia penalty of death for blasphemers.

The British press is reporting that he apologized to a British court today for advocating mass murder of apostates and blasphemers. But read what he really said.

He told the court: "I didn't think about what I was saying or the consequences..."

"I feel almost ashamed. I feel the words didn't make sense. I didn't think anyone would take me seriously."

He's not ashamed. He's almost ashamed. Despite that, the BBC chooses to title their article Cartoons protest man apologises

And given the long tradition of killing blasphemers which goes back to Muhammed's time, how does advocating exactly what traditional sharia has long advocated 'not make sense'?

Just to make this clear, Mizanur Rahman is a follower of Omar Bakri Mohammed. One of Bakri Mohammed's websites publicly called for the execution of blasphemers. Rahman is a computer programmer. It is possible that Rahman himself is responsible for those internet calls for jihad.

More from the BBC today:

The Old Bailey heard police filmed him calling for planes to be shot down and the deaths of UK and US troops in Iraq.
So he reacted to cartoons depicting Mohammed by advocating the killing of U.K. troops?

Another story from one of the authors at Western Resistance tells us exactly what it was that Rahman said, which the BBC does not make very clear:

Mr Perry described placards which had been carried by Rahman, which bore the slogans: "Behead those who insult Islam" and "Annihilate those who insult Islam". Perry said: "Annihilate and behead are ordinary English words with the ordinary English meaning of kill. The prosecution say the meaning of those words is clear and unambiguous. Ordinary English words with the ordinary English meaning to kill."

"What he said was this - 'Oh Allah, we want to see another 9/11 in Iraq, another 9/11 in Denmark, another 9/11 in Spain, in France, all over Europe. Oh Allah, destroy all of them, Amen'."

The prosecutor claimed the 23-year old web designer had said: "Bomb, bomb France. Bomb, bomb France. Nuke, nuke France. Nuke, nuke France." Rahman had also urged "indiscriminate killing" of British troops in Iraq, the prosecutor said.

Rahman's speech, made on a megaphone, had included the statements: "We don't want to see them in Baghdad or in Iraq any more. We want to see them coming home in body bags. We want to see their blood running in the streets of Baghdad and Fallujah."

"We want to see the Mujahideen shoot down their planes like the way they shoot down birds. We want to see their tanks burnt, just like we burn their flags."

"We want to see their freedoms destroyed. We want to see all of them removed from Muslim land. Oh, Allah don't leave any of them alive in Iraq, don't leave any of them alive in Afghanistan, don't leave any of them standing in France."

Back to the BBC version:
Mr Rahman, who is married with a young child, told the court he had copied what some of the others had been saying when he was handed a megaphone.

He said placards he had carried calling for the beheading of people who insulted Islam had been handed to him.

"I didn't intend for anyone to be harmed or attacked, let alone to be killed," he said.

"The majority of this was a prayer. When I was given the mic, I didn't know what to say. I said what other people had said during the demo and what was on the placards.

"I was repeating what I heard in other speeches."

The court heard Mr Rahman had also called for "another 9/11 all over Europe". ....

Right. It's the peer pressure argument. But mom, all the cool kids were advocating beheading the infidels!

It still doesn't explain his connection to the al Ghurabaa followers who organized the rally. And what about longing for another 9/11?

This story by Adrian Morgan is really the definitive word for those of you who haven't been following the controversy. Here's a taste:

On February 3 this year, a group of Muslims gathered outside the Danish Embassy in Sloane Square, Chelsea. They were there to protest against the illustrations of Mohammed which had first appeared in the Jyllands-Posten newspaper on September 30 last year.

Individuals, many with faces covered, screamed abuse and called for violence against those who insulted Islam. They bore placards emblazoned with the slogans: "Behead those who insult Islam", "Europe. Take some lessons from 9/11", "Europe you will pay. Demolition is on its way", "Europe you will pay. Your extermination is on its way," "Slay those who insult Islam," "Butcher those who insult Islam." ....

In July, Choudary was fined £500 ($921) for organizing an unauthorized demonstration, with £300 ($553) costs....

On June 22, it was formally announced that four individuals who had been arrested on March 15 were to face separate trials for threats they had made at the Danish Embassy.

Three individuals were summonsed to return to court, and given bail. One of the four, Abdul Muhid, who had tried to flee the country on May 4 with Anjem Choudary, both breaking their terms of bail, was denied bail.

On August 17 2005, Muhid, had been released from court after charges against him of inciting racial hatred were dropped. Then he had been reported by a concerned citizen for announcing at a stall in Walthamstow market that British troops in Iraq should be killed, and that homosexuals should be thrown from clifftops. ...

In June this year, Muhid denied two counts of soliciting the murder of those who insulted Islam which had been made at the Danish Embassy. Of the four who were given charges, he alone was refused bail, and was made to remain in Winchester prison where he is currently being held.

Umran Javed, 26, of Washwood Heath Road, Birmingham, denied soliciting murder and using threatening words or behaviour to stir up race hate. Abdul Rahman Saleem, 31, of Poplar, (aka Abu Yahya) denied one count of using words likely to stir up racial hatred. The other individual who was charged was 22-year old Mizanur Rahman. He had denied one count of soliciting the murder of those who insulted Islam, as well as US and UK servicemen and Danish, French and Spanish civilians, and denied a charge of using words likely to stir up racial hatred. ...

n Thursday, November 2, the trial of Mizanur Rahman commenced at the Old Bailey. 25 members of now-banned Al Ghurabaa and its partner the Saviour/Saved Sect, including Anjem Choudary, demonstrated outside the court. Abu Izzadeen, who had heckled the UK home secretary John Reid on Wednesday September 20, was also at the protest.

Four Muslims were arrested in violence which took place outside the Old Bailey. One protester had attacked a cameraman, and when police tried to arrest him, three others intervened. One policeman had been punched in the face and another had his helmet knocked off.

Adrian hasn't put anything about this up at Western Resistance yet today, but keep an eye out.

Posted by: Rusty at 02:01 PM | Comments (23) | Add Comment
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1 Two points
a) I'm GLAD that the worthless turd got taken to court
b) Al-BBC playing the apologist is most sickening

Dr. S.,
I've noticed a concerted and widespread effort by the IRI to infiltrate its apologists and sympathizers into Western media starting with al-BBC's Persian service all the way to CBS and al-CBC.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at November 06, 2006 03:09 PM (vixLB)

2 Wow! I wonder what he would do if he came to this site and read people
calling Mohammad a goat fucking, child raping, bacon eating faggot? I
might almost want to come close to feeling bad if that offended him.

Posted by: Randman at November 06, 2006 03:24 PM (Sal3J)

3 This is all you've got to show for 6 years of R controlled planet? Clear your throat and repeat after me:
Osama Bin Laden attacked us.

Osama Bin Laden attacked us.

Osama Bin Laden attacked us.

Osama Bin Laden attacked us.

Osama Bin Laden attacked us.

Osama Bin Laden attacked us.

Osama Bin Laden attacked us.
Now go vote.

Posted by: tbone at November 06, 2006 03:52 PM (HGqHt)

4 Good post. We have to make these kind of stories widely known. Mr. Rahman would love for this story to just disappear, but people have to know (since it isn't legal to kill these Islamic rodents on site yet) that here in the civilized world, you can't openly threaten to kill people and get away with it. The hipocracy of this whole thing makes me want to vomit. Any white supremicist group or KKK whoud be thrown under the jail for having placards like that, and rightly so. Why do these lowlife motherf'ers get away with it all over the world? 
Mr. Rahman: Fuck you and your "apology". I have a nice, shiny Hornady TAP for you. PLEASE pull that stunt here in the states.   

Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at November 06, 2006 03:59 PM (CtVG6)

5 What a load of B.S.  That douchenozzle is "almost ashamed" and ONLY because he got called on it by the authorities.  If he was never taken to court, I would put money on the fact that he would not be even close to feeling bad.

piece of shit.

Posted by: JeepThang at November 06, 2006 04:03 PM (yZQoS)

6 Jack, It is quite something to say you could teach the hateful a lesson in hate.

Posted by: tbone at November 06, 2006 04:06 PM (HGqHt)

7 tbone. It was a hypothetical on the required tolerance of free speech
in the West by our new immigrants. He can say whatever he wants if he
is not calling for violence and death and guess what.....I won't riot
or call for his death. Cool how that works eh?

Posted by: Randman at November 06, 2006 04:43 PM (Sal3J)

8 Thanks for attempting an explanation Randman. But next time you may want to look up what you are defending before you open your mouth.

Posted by: OBL at November 06, 2006 05:01 PM (HGqHt)

9 tbone: reciprocity is too big of a word for you to ever understand. So maybe you can get this: "An appeaser is one who feeds the alligator, hoping it will eat him last.
I am a peaceful man until tread upon.

Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at November 06, 2006 05:04 PM (CtVG6)

10

Jack's Dog-eared Thesaurus, Truly, my IQ stands impotent in the shadow of your massive and manly vocabulary. If I wash my hands, can... I...*gasp* touch it?


Posted by: tbone at November 06, 2006 05:17 PM (HGqHt)

11 I wish I could remember where I read it, but it was said that any group of Muslims in western countries will have more radicalized Muslims per capita within their ranks than you'll find in Middle Eastern countries. ....For what ever it's worth.

And tbone: so what are your feelings about, you know, the story? Or did you read it and yawn and decide it was more fun to go for the ad hominem approach toward other commenters?

Posted by: Oyster at November 06, 2006 05:39 PM (YudAC)

12 OBL.I am defending ammunition????? BTW...I don't open my mouth but wiggle my digits.

Posted by: Randman at November 06, 2006 05:54 PM (Sal3J)

13 My punishment for the UK fellow would be as follows: tattoo the words he so proudly displayed onto his forehead, then let him go anywhere 50 miles either north or south of London. He'd last maybe five minutes.
 


As a side note, Rusty, he was an HTML monkey, not a computer programmer. HTML is to programming what crayons are to fine art.


Posted by: Joe Public at November 06, 2006 07:01 PM (clEyP)

14 Typical muzzie cowardness. These turds aren't only the dumbest creatures walking the planet - they are the biggest pussies wasting air on earth.

Posted by: Max Power at November 06, 2006 09:23 PM (PM8kH)

15 See what happens when you take these sand rats out and teach them to use computers.  This asshole is not English nor are those like him. Mass deportations is the answer. Outlaw islam and deport those that practise it.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 06, 2006 11:08 PM (0AdXP)

16 And the scumbags who defend them.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 06, 2006 11:09 PM (0AdXP)

17 we need to just wipe out all muslims... even those little children who carry toy guns and recite death to the infidel poemns in school. the muslims f*cks are just producing more and more people who want to kill for there god. they want to kill inocent people for the sake of their god. their god is the devil in disguise... how can a man justify killing another man? how can a religion encourage people to kill anyone? so we must kill them first.... all of them. even the young. the only way to end this. otherwise it will get worse....

Posted by: hank at November 07, 2006 07:42 AM (pU0SG)

18 But...but...That would be using hate to teach a lesson in hate...right tbone? God forbid we hurt Muslim's feelings or (gasp) deport them in order to protect the lives of people who belong in this country and contribute to society! For shame! What you don't understand is that these people only respond to violence. Fight fire with fire, as they say. But you are waaaaay too spineless to ever lift a finger to defend your own country...so back to lame attempts at insulting my intelligence.

Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at November 07, 2006 11:08 AM (R+h5X)

19 Jack's Overblown Sense of Self-Importance - I'll lift one finger for you, racist.

Posted by: tbone at November 08, 2006 12:12 PM (HGqHt)

20 tbone, you are an idiot
 
 

Posted by: rob at November 09, 2006 11:01 AM (QpkBe)

21 Well Rob, I'm just devastated. Seriously. I'm not being sarcastic at all. You have shown some real insight into the soul of what must be to you a liberal pansy yada yada - whatever. Somebody calls threatening a guy with lethal ammunition for holding a sign, reciprocity and I'm an idiot for calling him a hypocrite. Then an idiot I be - at least I can type more than a three year old's argument. A little background and that threat seems to be coming from LE (to protect and serve and kill guys with signs?):
 
Hornady .223 TAP loads are a unique offering to Law Enforcement. They offer dramatically better terminal performance than any handgun cartridge, yet they do not demonstrate over penetration in ballistic gelatin testing. All four rounds defeat level IIIA ballistic body armor with little effect on the bullets' performance. The 75 grain bullet showed significantly better performance on glass than the lighter bullets, showing less deflection and better penetration after penetrating glass.

Posted by: tbone at November 09, 2006 01:39 PM (HGqHt)

22 A muslim tried to touch me in the public toilets today but when i pulled out my pork he ran away

Posted by: 10yearold at November 09, 2006 04:26 PM (jmGSE)

23 tbones waffle is now on ignore

Posted by: rob at November 10, 2006 10:58 AM (QpkBe)

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