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August 08, 2005

Treasonous Cleric Flees England

Bird escapes cage to rejoin flock? Tim from Opinion Bug e-mails me this from the BBC:

A controversial Islamic cleric has left the UK for the Middle East amid speculation he would be investigated for treason, said his spokesman.
Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed - former head of radical group Al Muhajiroun - left on Saturday for Lebanon, his colleague Anjem Choudary told the BBC....
Mr Choudary said the cleric believed "Britain had declared war on Muslims".

England declared war on Muslims? Let's see, in England you can practice your Islamic faith, including openly proseletyzing Christians to become Muslims. Is there a single Islamic country that can say the same? No? QED.

UPDATE: Good discussion by Megan McArdle on this over at he-who-will-not-be-named's blog and by Gene Volokh. I would only add that speech laws must be context oriented. What one can say in a time of peace must be different than in a time of war. Those that think otherwise must share a different value system than myself. Personally, I think human life is much more valuable than speech. If killing the enemy is legitimate, then stifling his speech must also be.

UPDATE II: From the vast Jawa archives comes this quote from Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed. Traitor? You be the judge:

If an Iraqi Muslim carried out an attack like that in Britain, it would be justified because Britain has carried out acts of terrorism in Iraq.

Posted by: Rusty at 01:57 PM | Comments (9) | Add Comment
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1 "England declared war on Muslims"

Sadly, this is NOT the case.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 08, 2005 02:16 PM (x+5JB)

2 Well, it is if they get to define the words. Something the left is very comfortable doing.

OTOH, England comes close to outlawing "premeditated self-defense".

Posted by: Phillep at August 08, 2005 02:35 PM (c2ZEH)

3 I like how this is turning out. Get all those trash talking leeches out of the Western hemisphere. Hopefully this is just the beginning.

Posted by: REMF at August 08, 2005 02:43 PM (aLiCo)

4 YES YES, ENGLAND HAS DECLARED WAR ON ISLAM, NOW GET THE F-CK OUT ALL OF YOU.

Posted by: Carlos at August 08, 2005 02:48 PM (8e/V4)

5 Enoch Powell is a prophet..all he predicted is happening but the left wingers would never admit it. Islam is the cancer of the western world.

Posted by: Jester at August 08, 2005 03:13 PM (2FYdV)

6 It will be interesting to see where this lovely human turns up next.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 08, 2005 03:18 PM (x+5JB)

7 yes, he is free to continue his hatefull poisining of young Mulsims minds in some other country but at least some of the British will sleep a bit better knowing that this scum isnt in some English mosque stirring up a riot or murder...and he cant hide behind English laws now, hopefully he will be find somewhere in Iraq by one of our US Marines as he attempts to sneak across the border with some fellow terrorists, and well, you take it from there what happens next

Posted by: THANOS35 at August 08, 2005 03:46 PM (IJ51c)

8 not to be a f**king know it all, but I think you want QED, which is often seen after a mathematical proof, quod erat demonstrandum, which was to be proved.

i guess QID could be queer inserts dick in the context of the post though.

Posted by: Mr. K at August 08, 2005 03:53 PM (eQVGl)

9 Traitor. He is.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 08, 2005 09:28 PM (CBNGy)

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