1 I love Canada...It is a hybrid country

2 Yeah, but does it contain something which could be enriched or weaponized? If so, what would it be capable of? Other than that, I hope whoever stole it gets sterilized from exposure to radiation, or at least some fast acting cancer.

3 osamasaturd...

guess what?

Jihadis don't care if they're going to be 'exposed to radiation'.  Especially if they plan to accumulate enough material to strap to themselves and go 'BOOM' in a crowded underground subway.

That's the problem with you 'threat of terrorism is exaggerated' useful idiots....you don't believe there are people willing to give their lives for 'the cause'.  For further educational reading (and for those who have a combination of BDS and Western Memory Syndrom, please refer here and here.
This has been a pubic service announcement.

4 Looks like most nuclear densimeters contain Cesium and Americium:

http://www.cflhd.gov/agm/engApplications/Pavements/43TransportGeotechMethods.htm

Americium Cesium

Here is a company that manufactures this type of equipment, gives a bit of information on how these devices work, etc:

Troxler Electronic Labratories

My opinion is that someone broke into a construction site and saw equipment that looked expensive (and easy to steal) and went for it.  I definitely would not rule out more nefarious reasons for someone lifting this equipment however.

5 My Sears Craftsman laser level is missing from my tool box. Could there be a connection?

6

No biggie... it's
primarily 'alpha' radiation. If they pull the element and put it into
their pocket it will take at least 24 hours to kill. If it were
ingested... the dose in the pollenium scare was certainly several
orders of magnitude less than this lost source.

As of about 1995 the US lost about four of these and the areas in question are still cordoned off.

7 I gotta take that back...

<blockquote>Description of Circumstances:

In the period January 1996 through October 2000, NRC and Agreement State licensees reported a total <strong>156 thefts of portable gauges. Fifty-one occurred in the States of Texas and Florida. </strong>Most of the thefts occurred when gauges were stored in vehicles parked in areas vulnerable to theft. Only 40 percent of gauges reported stolen were reported as having been recovered. Two of the 156 events involved attempts to sell the stolen gauges. In both of these cases the gauge was returned to the owner. In another two events, gauges were found in scrap metal when radiation monitors alarmed. In one event, only the source rod was found. In the other case, the gauge was found intact.

In 83 percent of the thefts from vehicles, the vehicles were parked at locations other than the licensees' facilities or job sites. Of these cases, gauges were most frequently stolen from vehicles parked at private residences (37 percent). In most of the cases involving the theft of gauges from vehicles, the gauges were locked and secured, but frequently the gauges were locked in an open truck bed, visible to passers-by.</blockquote>

http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/gen-comm/info-notices/2001/in01011.html

8 mrclark:

Who are you to try and flame me? You're not even being a "useful idiot":

-I asked if what was stolen was able to be weaponized.

-I expressed hope that whomever stole it suffers.

You then reply with some bullshit lecture that I'm one of those "threat of terrorism is exaggerated' types and some other bullshit about "you don't believe there are people willing to give their lives for 'the cause'."

Don't fucking lecture me about terrorism when I've lived through it first hand. (9/11, yeah I was there and yes I lost some people that day)

So before you start getting all high and mighty with me, maybe you should ask questions first and shoot your mouth off later.

Oh yeah, and tiny dirty bombs in the subway aren't shit. We'll be lucky if NYC is still standing by the end of the century at this rate.

9 Osamabinlyin:


MrClark is right. You're just a stupid troll trying to downplay the threat of islamic terrorism. Your comment about hoping the thieves suffer was about as believable as your claim that you were involved with 911, and that you lost some people.


On second thought, you do support terrorism and hate America. Maybe you did lose some friends that day. 19 of them.

10 Gee, Jeff, making light of the death of his friends is kinda harsh. His comment was funnier than yours, does that bother you?

Osama's coments are funnier than yours
He could teach you but he has to charge

11 Darth: I've actually told Michael & Howie I'd just try to ignore Jeff. It's probably worse punishment than swiping back when he swipes at me. I'll try for a while and see how it goes. It is extremely hard to resist responding to that last comment though, considering the last time I had someone say something similar: Some nut-bag 9/11 conspiracy theory guy came in here and did the same thing and I went ballistic on him. Ask Howie about it...the fur was really flying on that post.

12 osamabinhiding

Don't fucking lecture me about terrorism when I've lived through it
first hand. (9/11, yeah I was there and yes I lost some people that
day)

Sorry for your loss. I'm not a psychic, but I can smell a turd when someone starts saying we need to pull out etc etc without realizing the consequences of such actions.

Oh yeah, and tiny dirty bombs in the subway aren't shit. We'll be lucky
if NYC is still standing by the end of the century at this rate.


I'll remind you of that statement if and when YOU'RE one of the victims caught up in a "aren't shit" dirty bomb attack.  Hopefully you'll not have to suffer the effects of any such attack because at this point the Democrats haven't degraded our National Security....yet

...but then again...they're just getting started.  God save us if Hillary or Obama get elected.

13 Jeff,  I'm asking as a favor, if you would try to ease back a little. I've been giving flak to Osamabinpouncing for a few days, and he seems to be willing to try and be nice. Whether you hate his guts or not, it is kind of harsh to just say he is lying about losing friends during the 9-11 attack. I know you really don't owe me one, but if you'd try a lighter touch, I think it would work well for you. All the flaming is kind of wearing me out, and I'm only reading it. How about it?  
                 
                USA, all the way!

14 mrclark...

I realize you're not psychic, so all is forgiven on the subject of 9/11. It's one of the few subjects that is a hot button for me, for obvious reasons.

You won't be reminding me of much if I am a victim of a dirty bomb, unless I'm not lucky enough to be killed fast and I'm rotting away from radiation exposure. On that note, I get pretty pissed when I think of how funds have been misspent on securing our national security at home. I don't feel as if NYC has gotten it's fair share of funding and I don't think it's any more secure now than then. I think airport security is a joke too. If any of that makes you "smell a turd" I would hope not.

I agree they are just getting started. Btw, who are you hoping gets elected? I know it's pretty early, but I wonder. I think there's a real shortage of good leadership these days.

15 OMG! They might give somebody a rash! AHHHHHHHH!

You guys better look under your beds tonight... there might be turrists down there!

16 John, all snark aside, did you check back at the "Patton" article after your last comment there?             USA, all the way!

17

Osamaisaninveterateliar:


Why should I believe that you lost friends who weren't terrorists on 911? You lie so consistently and poorly that everything you write is suspect.


You have nobody but yourself to blame. If you were honest once in a while, I could give you the benefit of the doubt. But no, you are a despicable liar of the worst sort, who continually lies through her (yes, her,) teeth to promote her vile agenda. The boy who cried wolf was more believable, because he did tell the truth in the end, and wolves were a threat then and there, as islamopithecines are now.

The really repulsive thing about your histrionic and self serving breast beating, is that if you're telling the truth, you're far more repugnant than I ever imagined. If you lost non-terrorist friends on 911 and choose to attack the very men fighting the movement responsible for that atrocity, you're too repellant for words. You have no more moral authority than Cindy Shehag.


I've been losing friends and family since childhood. I will continue to do so for the rest of my life. All of us will. You have no special or protected moral advantage because you claim to have lost friends on 911. Opposing terrorism and how to do it aren't the sole province of those who claim to have suffered loss on 911. Far fucking from it.


There are plenty of people who lost loved ones on 911 who reject your ideas. Not that people who suffered loss on that day are the only ones allowed to express an opinion, or influence foreign policy. Every real American felt loss. Only the hopelessly selfish would deny them their sense of loss, and declare their opinions without merit. Loss or not, we all have a stake in this country. Some of us are capable of making the right decisions. You obviously are not.


The fact that you keep bleating that Iraq has nothing to do with 911 is enough to make any reasonable person reject your demented ideas. If 911 had nothing to do with Iraq, don't use it as an excuse to demonize the mission in Iraq. If every American soldier in Iraq were pulled out tomorrow, it wouldn't affect the hunt for Bin Loser one iota. It would still be carried out the way it is being carried out now. Transferring every soldier in Iraq into Afghanistan and Pakistan wouldn't aid the search for Bin Loser's corpse. In fact, it would be a disaster. America is not prepared to conduct a scorched earth policy in that part of the world, or any other part for that matter. If entire divisions were put on the ground instead of covert op teams, they would become targets--and you know it, you slimy piece of shit.


If America flees headlong from Iraq, the results will be catastrophic. The damage done to this country when the Democrats abandoned our South Vietnamese allies to the depredations of the communist murderers from the North would seem puny in comparison. Islamic terrorism would have a new base of worldwide operations that would make the old Taliban haven in Afghanistan look like a Brownie camp. The oil revenue of Iraq could fuel terrorism on a Saudi Arabia scale, and would actually do much more damage, because Al Qaeda and Co. wouldn't be restrained by international diplomacy and political posturing.


But you don't give a shit. Your scum sucking ideology is paramount to you. You don't give a flying fuck about the Americans you feign concern for. If you did, you wouldn't be mewling about going after Bin Loser when Al Qaeda's theater of operations has been based in Iraq for the last three years. Al Qaeda is not shy about stating this, so don’t claim otherwise.


I recognized you as an unprincipled lefttard troll from day one, but you've sunk to new depths of depravity with your sham pretensions to restraint and reason. Your insistence on martyrdom and exclusive rights to pain over 911 make you more hateful than ever. You disgust me more than words could ever express, no matter how poetic the soul voicing them could be. You are more of a reprobate than I ever could have imagined.


Don't ever come within 100 yards of me. Not ever, you twisted fucking monster. Writing to you makes my skin crawl.

18 Mike:


No can do. Osama is a monster. You're making a mistake by thinking that she's simply misguided. She uses tragedy to her own sleazy advantage.


She's lower than snake-shit in a deep well.

19 You know, reading over the posts here, I'm struck by the thought that
we, as a society, really do deserve what's coming to us, because the
adults of our society have failed us, because they've - we've - been
acting like adolescents for about 40 years now, and we seem as a
society to be devolving backwards towards infancy... and our nation was
born in blood and baptized in fire, Birthed from the raw wilds by men
of purpose and vision, on land taken from the natives usually for a
small, infinitessimal fraction of its value. But that's another story.


They, our ancestors, or mine at least, since my people were here before
White men crossed the Appalachians, and they were some of the first,
took a wild, savage, virgin continent and made it a great nation
through no other means than the genius and purpose of the educated
classes, and the cunning and strength of the uneducated classes, and
the belief that it was right that they make a place for themselves here
in this paradise that our ancestors called The Americas. My ancestors called their little slice of heaven Tennessee. But that, also, is another story.


What I'm trying to say is we've just about destroyed everything that
was good about this country, and replaced it with some kind of
McAbonination. I want my country back. I want back the America I
remember from a time when decent people and children could be out at
night without worrying about some unevolved troglodyte from the
projects, or some illegal invader scum, raping and murdering them. And
I'm ready to die for it. Anyone who isn't willing to make that
commitment, then you, sir, I name a coward and a traitor and may your
chains rest lightly upon you etc.. No, I take that back. May your
chains not rest lightly upon you, but may instead they eat into your
flesh, unto your very soul.


In this world of today, you're either a wolf, or you're livestock.

20 Maximus. After reading your post I was immediately reminded of a movie I rented the other day: "Idiocracy". It's a comedy which directly relates to some of what you've said here on many occasions. I think you'd get a laugh out of it:

http://www.amazon.com/Idiocracy/dp/B000LWBSDU

It's from Mike Judge, the guy who created "Office Space".

21 Well how ever this week goes, I'll probably miss a lot of it. I have a bit on my plate again, but I'll check in when I can, and see if the flaming is at full throttle or not. Have fun.        USA, all the way.

22 Improbulus Maximus   Good comment!   USA, all the way!

23 Guess we better send more troops to Iraq then!

24 Hey Michael, as offensive as Jeff gets I'm going to stick to my word. Ignoring him is probably the best route. It takes an incredible amount of restraint on my part concerning 9/11. Maybe Howie could send you the thread from when that happened last. I think it might be a few years old though, so I'm not sure if it's still around. I'm going to be busy too, but I'll try and check in.

25 Osamahasnothingtodowithalqaedaorterrorism:


"Idiocracy" is a very lame rip-off of a classic SF story by Cyril M. Kornbluth called "The Marching Morons." Judge plagiarized a masterful bit of originality and prescience, and tried to pass it off as a politically motivated comedy.


Thumbs down.


He figured correctly that ignoramuses like you wouldn't catch on.


Claiming to have lost people on 911 and opposing the eradication of Al Qaeda in Iraq is despicable.


Avoiding me is easier than debating me. Not that you ever did more than spew obnoxious and foul mouthed insults.


Do you really think you can deceive anyone into believing that you're rational or moderate?


Bush is having Al Qaeda scum killed in Iraq at an unprecedented rate. You are despicable filth for opposing this.

26 Hey Jeff, since you kept that one slightly more mellow than our other rants:

I'll have to check out "The Marching Morons." Thanks for the heads up on that one.

"Claiming to have lost people on 911 and opposing the eradication of Al Qaeda in Iraq is despicable."

I'd have to agree with you on that. I hope every member if Al Qaeda are caught and killed. No argument there. I'm sure where we differ is that I think our going to war with Iraq has made it a great place for them to have a platform. I've also heard of the Tali-wacker-ban getting stronger in Afghanistan as well. I've also heard they're about to eat shit in the spring too.

"Avoiding me is easier than debating me."

I'm not avoiding a debate, but I am avoiding our previous style of you're this, no you're that, oh yeah? well suck this, etc. I'm doing it out of respect to those who have complained.

"Not that you ever did more than spew obnoxious and foul mouthed insults."

Well, if I remember correctly, we were both guilty of that in our posts to each other. Not always the case when posting to others though.

"Do you really think you can deceive anyone into believing that you're rational or moderate?"

I don't need to deceive. They already know I am. Some people I've never had real discussions with might jump the gun and start calling me a leftard for certain views I have, but once they get to know me they realize I am quite rational and a moderate. I don't expect you to believe me though, especially after trading so many insults.

"Bush is having Al Qaeda scum killed in Iraq at an unprecedented rate. You are despicable filth for opposing this."

I don't oppose it. I encourage it. I wish he was more successful at it. I might not like Bush, but that doesn't mean I don't support the troops. At this point, I haven't heard a clear solution from anyone about the mess we have over there. My biggest fear is that all the kids over there are going to be extremely motivated in trying to kill us as soon as they are able. I think we both know they start 'em quick on that journey and it's not hard to turn a hateful little kid into a brainwashed menace.

27 I had a well developed theory for why the Iraq war was started and fought the way it was. Besides all of the reasons given before hand, which I accept as being legitimate, there is a strategic value that Iraq offered beyond its location, and the removal of Saddam. My theory wasn't intended for public audiences, but I shared it in private conversations with friends. Basically, the plan depended to a large degree on political unity at home, and this has been serious problem.  If anyone asks real nice, I may elaborate in an e-mail, but since the war is in progress I won't just share it with anyone.     
               USA, all the way!

28 Oh, my theory had a likely solution, again depending on political unity at home. I hate Murtha, and Pelosi. Not enough to equate to BDS, but it's still a good feeling.              USA, all the way!

29 "hateful little kid into a brainwashed menace"   Saddam was cranking them out ahead of our invasion, and he was funding the palestinain versions of same. We have a chance to change that if we can just stay in the struggle long enough.  Bush may have screwed some things up, but he had some good ideas, and mistakes don't make you evil (BDS'rs sit back down) Anyway, a lot of kids in Japan were born to a warrior society, and changed by the war there. With our help.         USA, all the way!

30 Osamahasbinwhere?


I lived in the largest "muslim" country for three years, and married a muslim.


How about you?


America is not at war with Iraq. Quite the opposite. It is fighting to protect it. If you wanted to see Al Qaeda eradicted, you wouldn't want U.S. troops to flee from them in Iraq. End of story.


Do you honestly believe Al Qaeda has a better platform to attack America in Iraq than they would over here? I don't believe you do, which is why I curse you as a lying traitor.


If Al Qaeda is getting stronger in Afghanistan, why doesn't life on the ground there reflect this asinine slander? Things are better than ever, and even tatooed, body pierced, dope smoking left-wing, dutch slacker-soldiers are slaughtering them in record numbers on the Pakistan border. You leftards drool over a potential tallywhacker resurgence, but your "resurgence" hasn't been any more succesful than you "insurgence" in Iraq.


You are this and that. I'm the one who stopped flaming. You're just trying to follow suit in a lame attempt to establish rational and moderate credentials. You have never offered more than crude ad hominems and DNC standard canards to support your pretensions to moderation.


You close with the standard leftard canard of American culpability. Natch. It's our fault that the islamopithecines want to kill us. If only we wouldn't meddle in their affairs. They own that part of the planet and they should be able to use it to murder each other and launch attacks on civilization to their black hearts' content. We mustn't interfere.


Moron.

31 "America is not at war with Iraq. Quite the opposite."

I'm sure the 30,000 dead Iraqi civilians agree with you.

"If you wanted to see Al Qaeda eradicted, you wouldn't want U.S. troops to flee from them in Iraq."

If we wanted Al Queda eradicated, we shouldn't have invaded in the first place. Kill Saddam, but not a full scale invasion.

"Do you honestly believe Al Qaeda has a better platform to attack America in Iraq than they would over here? I don't believe you do, which is why I curse you as a lying traitor"

What is this nonsense?

"but your "resurgence" hasn't been any more succesful than you "insurgence" in Iraq."

Sorry, were you looking for me to say they were in their "last throes"?

"I'm the one who stopped flaming."

Jeff, the proof is in the posts. You continue to insult and make personal pot-shots. If you noticed, I don't respond to them. Don't claim to have stopped flaming if you're still doing it.

"You're just trying to follow suit in a lame attempt to establish rational and moderate credentials."

You might think as much, but you'll never trust my word anyway, so why even listen or respond to me?

"You have never offered more than crude ad hominems and DNC standard canards to support your pretensions to moderation."

Ok, Jeff...if you really want to set the record straight, do the following: Make a list of issues that would define where someone falls within the political spectrum. I will honestly respond with my thoughts on each. That should prove quite easily I'm not some run of the mill leftard. Of course, this still hinges upon you believing anything I say.

"It's our fault that the islamopithecines want to kill us. If only we wouldn't meddle in their affairs. They own that part of the planet and they should be able to use it to murder each other and launch attacks on civilization to their black hearts' content. We mustn't interfere."

This is a completely false. I have never, and will never say any such nonsense. Again, stop making crap up. Seriously. Past insults aside, at least stick to the facts and stop making them up to support this bullshit.