1 The dumbass got "Darwined". All he had to do was let them do a quick search and he would have been on his way, but nooooo, he had to run. He was probably on his way to pick up a bomb. Serves the moron right.

2 The guy was followed by 3 plain-clothed officers, then he started running because 3 people were following him. He probably thought they were thugs. The police likes to say he didn't obey their instructions but failed to mention what they were...
"Oi Paki get the f*ck down!"...?
I would not be surprised. Then they lunge onto him and pump 5 bullets into his head, when all they had to do was handcuff him, search him and question him. Looks like the police got trigger happy.

3 >>>"Looks like the police got trigger happy."

trigger happy is the only reasonable way to be when you're hunting suicide bombers. I agree with IM, the guy got darwined.

4 John: are we to assume then, that you would be happy to pat down suspected suicide bombers?
good luck in your new career!

5 anyone who critizes police officers, you try and put youreself in their spot....as a police officer, in any city,country, and in any given situation of where youre life is in mortal danger, you have only a split second to make a life or death choice....do you not open fire and have the perp shoot you or set off a bomb he may/may not have under his heavy jacket and now youre dead and many others around the criminal, or do you shoot him, possibly kill/wound him and you and many others around you live another day....till you have been a police officer where many times the criminals you face are better armed than the cops, i suggest you keep youre mouths shut and look up some more info.....i speak from some indirect experiance as my father was a police officer in Essex County, NJ, for 36 years, now retired....he faced many dangerous, armed criminals for those 3+ decades and he knew it was either him going home/or in a meat wagon or the criminal was....who do you think wanted to live even more???

6 and another comment, once you run from ANY police officer, you immedialty become a suspect....if you are told to freeze/raise youre hands/drop to the floor and you run, youre life is in danger of being shot and its youre own fault....i dont give a flying fuck if the officers are plain clothesed or not, once you run, thats it, you have become a possible criminal and the police have the right to not take chances with you....how do they know if youre not an armed man willing to use a gun or whatever weapon youre carrying....and if youre not carrying a weapon such as a knife/gun/axe if you act or make any sudden moves the police have a right to defend themselves....who ever expects the police to just stand there and do nothing, are fucking wacked out of their minds and havent a fucking clue what they are talking about

7 Given that 1 out of 4 British muslims sympathize with the terrorist's cause, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was a decoy sent to provoke the cops into "abusing" him in order to gain sympathy for muslims and make the government look bad. They probably didn't expect the cops to unload an entire clip into him, but it doesn't hurt their cause. They're wily.

8 Carlos: here here a conspiracy theory that works for me.

9 Here here Carlos that is a conspiracy theory I can live with.

10 The bombers have this guy's blood on their hands. Their mass execution of fifty-plus people two weeks ago and their failed attempt just recently was the indirect cause of this man's death.

11 Bomp, Bomp, Bomp another one bites the dust.

12 John: Come on man. The Brits have to get permission and have good reason just to carry guns on a arrest. If they didn't have prior knowledge of something wrong with this guy they wouldn't have been carrying guns. In London the police don't shoot minorities and muslims. The mayor hugs them and makes excuses for their behavior. Time to get real.

13 Klanrooster you are an ignorant pig - the guy was GUNNED DOWN in COLD BLOOD by UNDERCOVERs. THANOS - Screw you with a fire hydrant, his blood is solely on the hands of the guy who PUMPED FIVE BULLETS INTO HIS HEAD.

14 God save the Queen, cause TOURISTS ARE MONEY.. and our figurehead is not what she seems!

15 DSM, are you saying that the Queen is actually...Elvis Presley??!! I've suspected as much ever since the tombstone misspelled his middle name! What better way for the KING to go into hiding than by becoming the QUEEN!

16 Just got back to Texas. I’m wasted. A couple of quick comments before bed.

I.
“LONDON — The man gunned down yesterday by police as he ran onto a London subway train had no connection to this week's terrorist attacks, police said today. They called the death "a tragedy."

Police identified the man as Jean Charles de Menezes, 27, and said he was a Brazilian citizen. Residents in the Tulse Hill section of London, near where de Menezes was first spotted by undercover police, said they did not know him.
"We are now satisfied that he was not connected with the incidents of Thursday 21st July 2005," the police said in a statement. "FOR SOMEBODY TO LOSE THEIR LIFE IN SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES IS A TRAGEDY AND ONE THAT THE METROPOLITAN POLICE SERVICE REGRETS."

GREG- IN POLITICAL PARLANCE, THIS IS A TACIT ADMISSION THAT THE MAN WAS INNOCENT.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002398723_weblondon23.html

GREG-A HISPANIC MAN, SEES 3 MEN WHO APPEAR TO BE HOOLIGANS RUNNING AT HIM WITH DRAWN GUN AND RUNS FOR HIS LIFE. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN CARLOS. “ NO GREG, I WOULD HAVE STOPPED WHEN THE POLICE IDENTIFIED THEMSEVES’ DID THEY IDENTIFY THEMSELVES? WHAT DOES, ‘HE WAS CHALLENGED’ MEAN? WITNESSES CLAIM THE MEN SAID ‘GET DOWN, GET DOWN’. NO ONE REPORTED THAT THE POLICE IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES.

II.
Hours after the shooting, Police Commissioner Ian Blair said the victim was "directly linked" to the investigations into attacks Thursday and July 7. In the latter, suicide bombings on trains and a bus killed 56 people, including four attackers.

Police initially said the victim attracted police attention because he left a house that was under surveillance after Thursday's bungled bombings, in which devices planted on three subway trains and a double-decker bus failed to detonate properly. Stockwell is near Oval station, one of those targeted.

"He was then followed by surveillance officers to the station. His clothing and his behavior at the station added to their suspicions," police said Friday.

But Saturday, a police official said on condition of anonymity that Menezes was "not believed to be connected in any way to any of the London bombings."

"FOR SOMEBODY TO LOSE THEIR LIFE IN SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES IS A TRAGEDY AND ONE THAT THE METROPOLITAN POLICE SERVICE REGRETS," A SPOKESMAN SAID ON CONDITION OF ANONYMITY, WHICH IS POLICE POLICY.

However, police did not explain what went wrong or say whether Menezes had done anything illegal.

Menezes' family was Roman Catholic. When asked if he had become Muslim in Britain, Agostino Ferreira Rosa, a policeman in Gonzaga said: "According to his family, he had nothing to do with Muslims or Islamism. He was Catholic."

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/Europe/Britain_Underground.html

GREG-POLICE CHANGE THEIR STORY. LIARS! THIS WAS A GOOD CATHOLIC BOY, YBP AND BRAD.

III.
SAO PAULO, Brazil — Brazil's government demanded an explanation Saturday for the fatal police shooting of Brazilian citizen on a London subway car.

London police initially said the man chased down and shot to death by plainclothes officers was tied to the recent terror bombings, but conceded Saturday that they no longer believed that was the case.

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/Latin_America_And_Caribbean/Brazil_Britain_Bombings.html

GREG- WILL NO ONE JOIN ME IN CONDEMING THIS ACT? NO ONE? WHEN FIRST REPORTED MANY OF YOU TOOK COMFORT IN THIS MAN’S DEATH. MANY OF YOU REJOICED AT IT. AND YOU’RE CHRISTIANS? YOU ARE WORSHIPPING THE ANTI-CHRIST! BASTARDS!


DSM- YOU”RE KICKING SOME SERIOUS ASS.

17 greg+DSM=idiots of a feather flock together proves true once again

18 had some already greg????...bet ya couldnt have just one, could ya???

19 now isn't that interesting.
Greg believes that the London bombings were a Government plot, yet today posts this man was killed in cold blood.
Tell us O'King of Bacofoil: if they were running PsyOps as you claimed the other day, Why didn't they link this man to the terrorist plot thus avoiding responsibility of killing an innocent man?
Your opinions the other day was the bombers where innocent Muslim lambs set up by the man, now this guy can't be linked?

So which is it Greg, you can't have it both ways.

20 not only is greg and idiot but it seems from his last post that maybe he is a child molester perhaps....delicious young boys to be had in Italy for only a few bucks.....nice, real nice there ole greggy boy

21 i mean, thats not even remotely funny...not in the slightest...talking about having sex with children is fucking sickening and makes greg a sub-human in my and many others eyes...i would hope, for youre sake greg, that you where either making a sick joke, or youre high/drunk when you posted that

22 >>>"Tell us O'King of Bacofoil: if they were running PsyOps as you claimed the other day, Why didn't they link this man to the terrorist plot thus avoiding responsibility of killing an innocent man?"

greg,

dave makes a good point. If the Brits are bombing themselves then why are they shooting people who appear to have been perfectly innocent? Is the illuminati really this incompetent? You can't have it both ways. They are either brilliant beyond our ken or they are apparently perfect morons.

23 Read Operation Northwoods or watch "Judge Dredd" for Godssakes - GUbbamint does shit to their own to consolidate power!

24 Greg, whaddafunk - kids?! That's immoral and illegal!

25 HAHA! did Down Syndrome Meme just reference the "Operation Northwoods" ? where did you read about that? "Flying Saucer Watch" magazine?
Tardboy, that document has long been debunked please note the wording of 'holiday' (European) in the document, vs. "Vacation" the American wording.

God, just when you thought asshats couldn't get any stupider, someone scraped the bottom of the barrel and scooped out DSM.

26 DSM says read Northwoods, because it is a real government document in the national security archives!

It may be downloaded free here:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

27 DSM: I've scraped stuff off my boot with more intelligence than you.
Try actually READING the whole document, then compare the wording in it's entirety.

Please stop embarrassing yourself.

28 and Judge Dredd????....a comic book/movie????....oh yea, im gonna get my info on the goverment from them...oh yea......someone give DSM a nice long pull on a crack pipe. please

29 Man, I'm just glad shit like that isn't happening in NYC. It's bad enough that the cops here are being rude and busting through everyone's bags. Like that would keep anything from happening? Just think of how much explosives you could shove up your ass...Gayrooster will tell you that an eager ass can accommodate a huge payload. How easy is it to sneak into the subway tunnels in NYC? Very easy. What happened to that Brazilian guy? I wasn't there...but obviously he was scared shitless and was killed by some fuckers. There's no excuse for what they did: If someone runs, you contain them alive!!! Leg shot, arm shot...not a fucking 5 to the head!! What if he was a terrorist? Even more important to keep him alive and get information from him to prevent future attacks. What those limeys did was absolutely stupid and they know it. They have admitted it, so everyone in here should stop sounding like dumb fucks and stop defending their actions.

30 By the way, there are lots of delicious young boys to be had in Italy for only a few bucks. The exchange rate kicks ass!
Posted by greg at July 23, 2005 09:58 P

I DID NOT MAKE THIS POST. THIS IS THE 3RD TIME IN 3 DAYS THAT SOMEONE HAS IMPERSONATED ME. DAVE ADMITTED TO IT THE FIRST TIME.

RUSTY,
THIS IS BULLSHIT! PLEASE FIND OUT WHO IS IMPERSONATING ME AND
BAN THEM!

31 Contain suicidebombers alive.. what bull

The guy panicked and was stupid enough to run, the police chased him through the entire station and only shot him when he got on a train full of people, imagine what could have happened if he had detonated a beltbomb.. It's a no brainer, they took no chances and wasted him right there.

What I don't get is how could they could let a suspected terrorist get that far. Why didn't they stop him earlier if they were tailing him all the way from his house??

Something must have gone wrong.

32 Carlos:'dave makes a good point. If the Brits are bombing themselves then why are they shooting people who appear to have been perfectly innocent?

Carlos and Dave,
These psyops are so compartmentalized, that the right hand and the left hand don't know what the left finger nail is doing.

AGAIN, I DIDN'T MAKE THAT FUCKING PEDOPHILIC COMMENT.
FUCK YOU, WHOEVER DID IT!

NEXT TIME I WILL HIGHER A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR AND AN ATTORNEY AND SUE THE SHIT OUT OF YOU FOR DEFAMATION AND SLANDER.!

33 Anyone deliberately posing as another poster will be flushed on the first offense.

34 BLUTO,
THANK YOU.

PLEASE FIND THE IP ADDRESS OF THE PERSON WHO POSTED:
By the way, there are lots of delicious young boys to be had in Italy for only a few bucks. The exchange rate kicks ass!
Posted by greg at July 23, 2005 09:58 P

AND BAN THE SON OF A BITCH.

35 Ok, lets start with the premise that what the police here did was wrong, and that they should certainly not have shot this man.

Now please explain what the police should do in future situations to:

A) Avoid shooting anyone who is suspected of carrying a bomb, jumps a turnstile at a security checkpoint, and runs onto a subway train.

B) Avoid having a real bomber who has a bomb, jumps a turnstile, and runs onto a train from detonating said bomb and killing dozens or hundreds of civilians.

C) Avoid having a bomber, once ordered to the ground by police, wait and set off his bomb to take out the police trying to peacably subdue him.

Somehow I can't picture avoiding all of A, B, and C; but maybe I'm not as clever as the people who are certain the police got this wrong. Please clarify the appropriate responses to avoid all 3 of these situations.

Gekkobear

36 Thing is, what is there to argue about? A non-terrorist was killed, and the police have admitted to screwing up. End of story & hope it doesn't happen again. The only pathetic thing is anyone in here without remorse who diss the guy for running...I bet if the guy was related to you, you'd turn your tune real fast. Don't be a bunch of fucking dicks. Wasting a civilian non-terrorist who was obviously scared or confused is no "Darwin": it's a tragedy.

37 Greg:
first: I did not impersonate you, I told you I had made a mistake, as my message was clearly addressed TO you, and contained no speech that claimed to be from you, negative or otherwise.

second: You'll hire a attorney and a private investigator over comments that were posted in the name 'Greg' are you the only Greg in the world? did it contain material that was unique to you, and only you were personally defamed? give me a break.

Shouldn't you and your Attorney be filing under the FOIA's regarding roswell?

I'll also give you a clue: without a subpoena no one is under obligation to fork over logs, IP or web to You, your Attorney, Private investigator or otherwise.

38 Greg: Quit being a liberal crybaby and begging for Rusty and Company to interfer for you. You sissy. Many of us has had others to the same to us. Me, I just tell the son of a bitch about his low class whoreing mother. But crying seems to be the path you always take. Friggin baby.
It was probably osamabeenthere. He wants to be white so much he would even pretend to be white sissy like you.

39 Yeah, 'hired'. So, I was pissed and my circadian rythm is off by 7 hours.

Rooster,
Shut up. You've asked for me and others to be banned on many, many occasions.

Dave,
I'm glad to hear it wasn't you. I take the matter very seriously and I will attempt to determine the identity of the offender. And yes, the slander was obviously directed at me as it references my trip to Italy.

A suit may push the envelope in that I am a semi-anonymous entity on this blog. But it is also reasonable to assume that my actual identity can be easily determined. I don't really blog anonymously because I have given so many details about myself that anyone with half a brain could figure out who I am with a little research. I'm prepared to push the envelope.

40 Greg, some fucknut spoofed me about indecent acts, too. Bunch of chickenwads. I think it was Rooster.

41 Greg...hope you find the imposter. Gayrooster, I'm white as fuckin' wonder bread, cracker-jack. Listen, just because you like being rammed by black cock doesn't mean you have to be mean to me every time I post.

42 Rooster's just pissed all the time 'cause he caught his daughters getting long-stroked by some Mississippi Black Snake.

43 If someone in my family was incoherent mentally ill or just beyond stupid while endangering others, I’d definitely not blame the police for that.

The way this guy wasted his life.. I have no pity. Let's face it, what the guy did was stupid, it cost him his life and that's the big tragedy.

Brazil was shocked and perplexed, and expected a full explanation from the UK authorities.

UK authorities should demand an full explanation from Brazil to why one of their countrymen was running away from the law on to a subway full of people, wearing a winter jacket in middle summer during a serious crisis and manhunt for terrorist out to bomb London.

The police f'ed up because they did not stop him earlier, the guy FUBAR, they had to shot him.

How else do you safely disarm and apprehend a suspected belt bomber who is not complying?

Any suggestions?

44 Rooster! Grunt, grunt!

45 osamabeenthere sounds like one of those idiots who follow Al Sharpton around New York screaming remember Towanna Brawley. Yea, I can see it now osamaneverbeenanywherebutharlem, Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson. Nuts of of feather run together.

Again Greg the traitor who claims to be a good catholic returns to his roots. Just because his wife (ex wifes) and mother preferred black snakes to white he thinks others would sink as low as his family. Maybe thats why his 1st two wifes left him. Wasn't much change switching from a white nigger to a black one.

46 Klanooster, what is that THING wriggling out of your ass??

47 Man, this is getting too funny. Oh, Gayrooster: that's TOO funny, not TO funny. Anyway, are you still confused about my race? I figured if you hate me I HAD to be of color, right? Hahaha. I can see your future hell now: being stuck in a hot little room with 20 ebonics teachers and 400 boom-boxes blasting NWA...for eternity.

Ren, how about a few leg shots or arm shots before blowing someone's nose out the back of their head? Fact is, if the police had their shit together they never would have let him enter that subway station!!

48 "Ren, how about a few leg shots or arm shots before blowing someone's nose out the back of their head?"

While you're at it, Wyatt Earp, why not shoot the detonator out of his hand? The point is to kill the suspected suicide bomber before he can detonate his device so that bystanders don't get blown up. That's the reason for the head shot.

49 Exactly, there is no other way

"There's no point in shooting at somebody's chest because that's where the bomb is likely to be,"

"There's no point in shooting anywhere else because if they fall down they detonate it. It is drawn on the experience from other countries including Sri Lanka

When he was challenged by police in the Tube station, he fled, reportedly leaping the ticket barrier.

Over the past year there have been an increased number of immigration checks at Tube stations - a policy widely reported in Brazilian papers in London.

BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said the type of visa Mr Menezes had been given would normally be valid for one-and-a-half to two years.

Mr Menezes had not renewed the visa, adding: "That wouldn't explain why he was shot, but it might provide an explanation as to why he ran away if - that is indeed what he did do.BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said the type of visa Mr Menezes had been given would normally be valid for one-and-a-half to two years.

He said Mr Menezes had not renewed the visa, adding: "That wouldn't explain why he was shot, but it might provide an explanation as to why he ran away if - that is indeed what he did do.

Source: BBC

50 Ren,

I knew I remembered reading the man described as an "illegal immigrant" but couldn't find a citation for it later. Do you have a link?

51 Sure thing, here you go:

bbcnews - Police shot Brazilian eight times

52 Man, you guys are blatantly ignoring the fucking fact that if they were following him, they NEVER SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED HIM INTO THE STATION!! Oh yeah, and since when does anyone have to shoot someone in the head 7 times? Was there anything left? Those fuckers should be discharged from the police force. Or would you guys like me to "suspect" you of being a suicide bomber and just waste you guys before asking you questions?

53 osama,

He ran into the station. He ran down the stairs and jumped the turnstile. Then he ran onto a carriage, and, by one eyewitness account grabbed another passenger. You seem to be having trouble understanding the concept that this guy was fleeing, perhaps because his visa had expired.

I think you're just disappointed that the last batch of bombs fizzled.

54 Man, you guys are blatantly ignoring the fucking fact that if they were following him, they NEVER SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED HIM INTO THE STATION!!

No shit Sherlock I was the first one to mention that.

Speaking hypotetically, the guy probably was not considered dangerous and they only wanted to ask him about the activity in the house they were watching, that was until he jolted the police and started to run like crazy down the tube.. police had their orders, THANOS35 clearly explained why the police had to act the way they did.

Had they stopped him outside the subway station it's possible he'd not be foolish enough to run away and he'd still be alive today. But the guy wasn't considered a threat and the kind of hindsight we're blessed to have on this right now they did not have back then..

55 If the police weren't drinking so much jolt soda pop and rotting away their yellow rat's teeth, maybe they would have been able to deal with the problem without making sure the guy had a closed casket funeral. Bluto, the only thing that fizzled in here was that fart of a post you just laid on us all. So let's just start shooting anyone who runs from now on, ok? That way we can always be sure no one....er...dies in subways anymore. Pblththt. Shiiiiiiiiiiiit. When I think of how many times I've run into a subway in NYC, I'm lucky to be alive for not living in London! Still haven't been searched by NY's finest yet.

56 Maybe we will get lucky and osamaneverbeenthere will meet NYC's finest.

57 Looks like someone found out about Greg the traitor and the little boys. He sure takes it personal. Like guilty people do. Not only a traitor but a pedophile. Knew it the whole time. And Greg we have already figured who you are. A traitorous pedophile. They say animals like you cannot be helped. Why don't you do one good thing in your lousy sick life and end it for the good of all? You can do it sicko. Just find a tall building and think of young boys on your way down. Filthy sick bastard.