1 Wurd, yo. That was sum pimpin' poetry, man.

2 Howie, A poet I'm not , but there is ample  material  for an additional verse . . .

Bestiality in Islam

Backing this up is this report from NPR . . .

"shepherds in the rural
western Baghdad neighborhood of Gazalea have recently been murdered,
according to locals, for failing to diaper their goats."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5622900

3 I really don't see the point in insulting Mohammed.  Does that bring peaceful muslims to our side?  No, it pushes them to the other side.  Is that good for the war on terror?  No, it's terrible.   My problem is with bad muslims, not good ones.  The good muslims amongst us prove that the Koran can be interpreted either good or bad, so I blame the interpreters themselves, not the Koran, nor Mohammed.  He's been dead for centuries so what he thought personally is irrelevant to me.  This is about the living, not the dead.  You know I'm not a dhimmi, I just want to win this war.

4 What part of Sura 9 is good?

5 No irony on this Earth matches that of a person mispelling a message that insults your intelligence. 
 
SWEET.

6 on behalf of true bass fishermen everywhere, lovers of hauling the bucket-mouthed beauties and their smallie cousins out of the majestic rivers and lakes that we are blessed with in north america - i say - back to allah's sand rag head wannabee. enjoy the bass fishing in saudi arabia if you love mohammed and his band of fascist islamiciders.

7 "Higher matters?"
"OK that it, Allah, smite him!"
Nervous silence...
"Don't worry, he's cooking up something."

8 The good Muslims amongst us prove that the Koran can be interpreted
either good or bad, so I blame the interpreters themselves, not the
Koran, nor Mohammad.

But Carlos. It is the words of the Koran and the actions of Mohammad
that are so readily used to justify those actions. I personally think
that the Koran was a convenient construct of a man to justify whatever
gratification he desired in life. The contradictions seem to serve
whatever carnal pleasure Mohammad sought at the moment. Thus multiple
wifes, slaves, raping slaves, wiping out entire towns and complete
submission of society to the religious dictators. Those actions are the examples for a Muslim to live. And the "good
Muslims" still seem to act, for the most part, in manners that excuse
or ignore the "bad Muslims". The good ones still seem to act like the
worst of them is better than the best of us. Look how the good Muslims
came together to protect the Iman in Australia who uttered the
contemptible "uncovered meat" sermon. I personally have sat in seminars
with "good Muslims" in a city in Texas where they lecture
(indoctrinate) our young people that "no Christian or Jew has ever been
persecuted under Muslim rule". That the West is responsible for the
problems in the ME. This educated university professor said it was lie
that anybody has ever been killed for changing religion from Islam.
Read the good Muslims Universal Islamic Declaration of Human Rights.
There is NO freedom of religion and Sharia is the ultimate rule of all
law.What good are the good Muslims if they talk love and understanding to
us while nodding their heads to a radical sermon on Fridays.

9 Randman,

I agree that plenty of those "good" muslims aren't that good at all.  But what about those muslim who can still be swayed to our side?  Should we just write them off entirely?

I know how fun it can be to mock Mohammed, and there may even be a lot of truth to that mocking.  But this is an anti-terror blog, correct?  So how bout doing what is in the best interests of the war on terror even if it's not as much fun.  Report on the behaviour of muslims, but this gratuitious mocking of Mohammed is not constructive.

10 By taking it to "higher matters" doe she mean she is going to strenuously object?

11 BORING HATE ADDICTION
Hating is boring and unoriginal.  Every group on earth has been victimized, but hate is a choice.  Those who hate, clinging to it as an addiction, passing it on to their children, cherishing it inside themselves, using it as the centerpiece of their lives, are finally left with nothing.   It is a waste of time and energy, like other addictions.  If you give up your brain to it, reason is pushed aside by constant anger, paranoia, righteous indignation, dreams of revenge, and self-justification. Thoughts and words are obsessively repeated again and again, day after day, with nothing to show for it, no progress, no change, just like other addictions. People do not just have hate – hate also has them. 

12 So how bout doing what is in the best interests of the war on terror
even if it's not as much fun.  Report on the behaviour of muslims, but
this gratuitious mocking of Mohammed is not constructive.

Thats why I held back on my hum dinger of a poem man.  :p

13 Nothing says "intelligent" like swearing, bad grammar, awful spelling and no punctuation.

Nothing says "I'm offended" like being offensive.

That's two for two.

14 "Why u insult the holy koran"?

It seems as if I've read about the same thing from every so-called moderate Muslim. No criticism of the Big Guy is allowed. Pretty rotten religion is my answer.

15 I think Carlos raises a good point.

I've considered the same question on more than one occasion.  I think we're going to need all the allies we can muster in the coming struggle.  Then again, I hate censorship, and I think the Danish cartoon controversy was very productive in forcing our enemies to show their true nature.

I haven't yet come up with an answer.

16 Mmmmm.... Trolls. I loves me a troll. Hate mail damn near gives me wood.

17 Do you think "higher matters" means that a fatwa is coming My Pet Jawa's way finally?

18 I want to work with the moderates if we can find them, because they can help clarify what is wrong about the terror weilding Muslims who are clearly not moderate.

In WW2 the 'Free French' helped us, and the Vichy French fought us, and resisted their own libertion. Does that mean the Free French sucked too? NO!

How about the Italians who resisted Mussoulini ... do they deserve to be lumped in with the fascists? Obviously not.

This war isn't that different, even if the left would like to tell us it is. Actually some on the left would agree with us on many topics we discuss here, so we need to remember that as well. Islamic moderates live in territory occupied my Islamic Fascists. There you go!

As for the Quran being full of crap, lets back up a bit. No offense to any 'moderate' Atheists, but some Atheists are the biggest freakin bigots, I've ever met. I've gone round and round defending the bible as a moral reference, and the value of it to my life, while having to admit the Bible still has issues. It's those issues that always make trouble for me.

Is it "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"? DUDE, I play DnD with Wiccans and Neo-Pagans. I say scripture is what you get out of it. The IslamoNazi's get things out of it, that make them our enemies, but other Muslims may not.

We all have the power of choice. One ministry tried to tell my wife who she could have for a best friend, and she basically told them they could be their own friends, by themselves, in their empty church.

As a modern non-denominational Christian, I have my own grip on my faith. I don't worry about the Pope, or the Baptist minister two miles down the road. If they have an opinion about scripture, I can listen if I want to. Or I can make up my own mind. it is America, after all. We have freedom of religion.

That freedom means nothing if all peaceful religious practices are not welcomed openly, and equally. Violent, or hostile expressions of religion obviously encroach on the rights of others, and violate the spirit of the US Constitution. We must try to save a place for the peaceful Muslim. It cannot be that with 1.6 Billion of them, at least one isn't peaceful.

I could make fun of Muhammad, and I have actually, and it is allowed to me as free speech to do so. I ask if it is wise? We have had some comments on this site, from Muslims, that show some promise. Do we want to snuff that promise out with our own intolerance?

I asked a while back if we could be more polite to each other, and I'm going to ask again. It's Christmas time. For a week, try it. Be nice to the Muslims. Some will react favorably, and others won't. Don't take the 'troll bait' and just be polite.

I don't think Ms basspro sounds moderate, but we don't sound moderate a lot of the time either.

We can talk about war next week if we need to. I don't think we will forget how to be tough before then

USA, all the way! TO INFINITY, AND BEYOND!!!

19 OK how come when I post in this 'other' comments section, I have run on paragraphs?
 
USA, all the way! Despite text layout misunderstandings.

20 Ragnar,

I too supported publishing the Mohammed cartoons for the same reasons you did.  It was a matter of principal-- that we would not be intimidated into silence.  And for that reason  it served a purpose and was not gratuitous.  But sometimes it serves no purpose and is counter productive.   Insulting Mohammed for no reason is bad psy-ops.   There's a reason why Bush calls islam a "religion of peace."  It's not for US to believe, it's for THEM to believe, i.e., psy ops.

21 There is no point whatsoever in pissing off the moderate muslims - which is why some of the silly publicity stunts this site pulls off ('flush the koran', for example) fall into the basket marked 'retarded' - sure, go out of your way to insult the likes of Zarqawi (may he rot with satan's cock up his ass), but for fucks' sake, don't piss off every moderate en route.
 

Radical islam is bad, no doubt about it. Radical Christianity is also bad (albeit in a less head-choppy way - for proof, I give you Phelps). Radical Islam needs to be insulted, denigrated, challenged, and ruined at every available opportunity - but that needn't involve ostracising and embittering the moderates. I'd much rather they were on the inside of the tent, pissing out....

And howie - it might of 'rhymed and everything', but your scansion is fucked. C-, must try harder.

22 OOOOh!!! Joe Public!! So close, you almost insulted me except that little poem was a contribution of one of the other authors. 

23 They must be very proud.

24

Joe Public! Excellent!

 

 

And since it's you, this is a good opportunity to point out that when your running off at the mouth (like I was) you can always piss off your friends by accident.
 
 
And genuine moderates are our friends.
 
 
 
USA, all the way!

25

And Joe Public, I think Satan has a cock with Phelp's name on it!

 

 

USA, all the way!

26 Joe,

radical ANYTHING is generally bad, including radical secularism.

27 ps., for proof, I give you the ACLU.

28

Mr Weaver - I like your sentiments. Even if you occasionally tend towards excess verbosity... You shouldn't have worried about paragraphs in post 19 - paragraphs were not the issue. Something that long needs chapters.

Worth reading, though. Keep up the good work

29 Carlos - couldn't agree more.

30 I love all you guys! Merry Christmas!
 
God bless, and keep the USA, all the way!

31 Jesusland Carlos:


Exposing muhammad as the child molesting, genocidal, lying, thieving, homophobic, slaving, stupid, ignorant, stinking, etc. that he was is vital. Beating back islam will be impossible without first exposing it. Exposing the depravity of muhammad is primary. Exposing the depravity of islam is secondary.


Muslims consider muhammad to be the "perfect" man. Exposing him as the scumbag he was is integral to defeating islam.


Mecca and Medina are also integral. Boom, boom!

32 Democracy Fool:


"Hating is boring and unoriginal."


Tell that to the muslims sawing your head off, shit for brains.

33 Jeff Bargholz;

I see the truth within your comments above, but I ask you, as a good, decent man, what will we do about the Muslim moderates? What about the girls like Deeyah, that just want to have fun, and have their spirituality at the same time?

I have shared your point of view in a broad fashion, but I think honor demands we make some effort to be fair. I know you must agree at least partly.

I'm going to resort to a cheap liberal trick;
Would you lump deeyah in with the Islamofascists? Would you attack her religion and spirituality to weaken Osama binLaden?

Naturally, there is no right answer, just the answer we think we can live with. I'm not trying to weaken your resolve either. I get the concept, and approve of the message in Stuck Mojo's vid. I used to have a car like that. I had a lighter paint job, and mine wasn't an SS. It still had a nice roomy trunk.

Anyway, I'm not killing anyone I don't have to for the rest of the year

USA, all the way! and Merry Christmas

34 Phelps is not Christian, nor far right wing. Just like Mormon is not Christian. Both give Christianity a bad name. So please, stop refering to groups you think are Christians as an example of extremism.

Now, Islam was peaceful in London until they became so many. Islam was peaceful in Deerborn MI. until they became many. Do you pussies need a third example? I give you FRANCE! Wake the F##k up people! Islam is at war with the world, and there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.

35 Leatherneck;
I don't care what Phelps is. If it was legal, I'd park a truck on him and go have lunch.

I have Mormon friends, and they are awesome to me, so please don't dis them. SOME Mormons give other Mormons a bad name. That is more fair. I hope you will accept that compromise.

I think you raise excellent points, and I don't diasagree with you about London, Deerborn MI. or "FRANCE!"

"Islam is at war with the world," YES! And America is at war with Islam. It is inevitable. WE WILL WIN! At whatever cost.

"and there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim." We disagree! I believe we see them in very limited numbers. They express themselves like the girl Deeyah, or Wafa Sultan, or they convert to another religion, from Islam, if their moderate values can't be satisfied within Islam. They are still real.

Your a Marine. I'm navel lint. I never joined the armed forces. I thought about it. My dad was a Marine. A double edged virtue, in that he had turned me totally off from wanting to have a DI yell in my face. So yep, I never served, and now I'm to old. Hold it against me. I will kill in defense of my United States of America, if need be. I can shoot pretty good, for a guy who isn't a Marine sniper. It it ever comes to 'My Hood' I will be ready. I'm a patriot.

But I don't want to kill the wrong guys ... is that so wrong? I want my shots to count for the good. Is that so a bad? Does my desire to be fair make me a "pussy"?

I think I'm doing my best to uphold the honor of my country. I may not be a Marine, but please respect my intention.

As always,
USA, all the way!

36 Your desire to be fair makes you a good man who was brought up to hope for the goodness in people, as with the others who posted wanting to see the good in Islam. I do not want to kill the wrong people, those can be deported.

Mormons believe G-d the Father was once a man. That is not Christian, and I do not mean Christ. Sorry.

Islam can not be comparied to Christianity. Good people, and bad people can be comparied. The moon god allah is a false god. You do not have to believe me, I will not cut your head off. But, look it up. False religions go all the way back to Nimrod. All false religions worship the One, or Satan.

37 Michael Weaver:


There are no moderate mudslimes. The people you mentioned are considered heretics by true mudslimes. 


Islam is intrinsically radical and belligerent. Any "muslim" who rejects jihad is no muslim at all.