1 The biggest problem with your statements is that you equate lefties with soldier hating.

You RW jerks like to point to one left wing moron and try to paint us all with the same brush.

What the anti-war protesters did to returning Vietnam vets was wrong.

Is there anyone, anymore, that disagrees?

Even if Hersh is right about the atrocities committed by US servicemen, the perpetrators represent a very small minority of our soldiers, who are honorably serving in an unnecessary and ill conceived war.

It is only your opinion that Hersh represents the Left's view of the military.

This is total bullshit, as it is the Left that defends this country, at least as much as conservatives.

It is the left that is trying to save our freedoms from those who would try to take them away.

It is not the terrorists, that we have to fear.

It is the RW, like Bush and his cronies that would try to take away our freedoms in the name of national security.

2 What is the mission of the US military? If the soldiers are on a mission which transgresses that which is defined by the Constitution, are they not complacent and equally as guilty of overstepping the boundaries as their commander in chief?

3 Looks very similair to Lurch's talking points.

4 The mission of the military, and of the comander-in-chief, is to protect and defend the constitution of the United States. The troops and the C-in-C are doing an admirable job, even in the face of quislings such as Hersh and Last Gasp Larry

5 Hersh and those of similar mindset take freedom for granted because they don't know what oppression means.  I would like them to see what I have seen in Bosnia 96' and Iraq  where under oppressive governments the people lived in dire circumstances and when they saw American troops, were very grateful to know they were given a reprieve from the oppression they had always known.  Typical leftist crap being spewed by privileged mama's boys who don't know what they are talking about. My unit built roads, repaired schools, gave school supplies like pens and paper to the kids (because they had never had it before), cleared boobytraps from existing schools that militants had left behind, as well as removed mines from residential and agricultural areas.  Of course Hersh probably thinks I and my military brethren had to kill several hundred children to accomplish these tasks.  He is a douche as are all those who are on the left.

6 Fuddlepuck, thanks for agreeing. Your statement, "It is not the terrorists, that we have to fear," says it all.

"Is there anyone, anymore, who disagrees? - quite obviously, Seymour Hersh, Pulitzer prize winner and celebrated Lefty mainstream journalist for the New Yorker disagrees. Q.E.D.

7 Seymore should show us the video...

8 Also Fuddlepuck, we have public statements from John Kerry, Jack Murtha, and Dick Durbin; all showing disdain for our servicepeople. The leftwing of the Democratic party has sought to stop surveillance of terrorist phone calls, stop interrogation of captured terrorists, stop NSA tracing of terrorist finances, shut down Gitmo...do you really want me to go on?

 Now, there's an opening for loyal, patriotic Leftists who want to re-establish a Liberal movement that would truly be a loyal opposition, rather than a tool for America's enemies. Maybe you could get in on the ground floor, Fuddlepuck.

9 "1
The biggest problem with your statements is that you equate lefties with soldier hating."



Puddleduck,

Ya know, it'd be so much simpler if you guys went back to hating the troops openly, just like in the old days.

You ever in the service? Cub scouts? Anything?



Oh, and while you're at it, could you mention at least one valid freedom that this administration has taken away?



Bluto and I don't always see eye to eye, but I'll stand with him on this one all day long.

10 Fuck Hersh - he is not the face of the Democratic party and he doesn't represent the views of anyone I know or care to know.

Dickless -

"Ya know, it'd be so much simpler if you guys went back to hating the troops openly, just like in the old days.

You ever in the service? Cub scouts? Anything?"

Ya know, Dickless, you are one of RW trolls that seem to permeate this site, but you already know that, don't you?

Which guys are you talking about that hates our soldiers? I don't know any of them.

You don't know a fucking thing about me, but you would like to try to put me in a pidgeon hole, because I am a liberal Democrat.

For your information, I served with the 1st Brigade of the 101st Airborne Div in Vietnam in 1965 and 1966. Where the fuck were you?

The American people, including our soldiers who are serving honorably in Iraq and Afghanistan, have seen thru the Bush and GOP bullshit and are going to change the direction of this country, whether you or your fellow neocon friends like it or not.

Just get used to it.

You are a loser, in the company of losers.

11 Amazing. I can't remember where I have seen this many RW morons, without a clue, at one time.

You must all subscribe to the same GOP talking points emails and, of course, you all watch Fox News to get your news (I heard they are number 1 in something - it sure ain't for their journalistic integrity).

You call me a soldier-hater and then go on to defame real war heros like Murtha and Kerry?

You should be ashamed, especially any of you that has never worn a US Military uniform, who is now bashing our veterans.

12 Jesusland - you are a fucking moron.

I am a Vietnam vet and I honor the service of anyone who has served in any war, whether I agree with the war or not.

Who the fuck are you to label anyone as a traitor?

I will welcome all of our war heroes home, not just the ones that share my politics, just as I hope you will.

It sounds that your support for the soldiers is contingent upon their political leaning.

You have no problem defaming veterans that don't share your political philosophy.

Would it surprise you to know that there are liberals fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Or do believe that conservative republicans are the only ones ready to fight and die for their country?

Do you hope that all of the liberal soldiers will be killed in Iraq and Afghanistan?

13 Darth Fag and puddleduck. What a pair. A ghetto rat and his protector.

14 Wow!  Hersh is saying how bad our soldiers are while qualifing it with "it isn't happening now,"  BUT they are still the most violent bunch we have ever had in our military?  Does anyone ever really understand what they read?  If it is NOT happening now, on what does Hersh base his statement that pretty simply says "the military is not committing violent acts NOW, but they are still  violent"?  Or is Hersh disappointed because Americans no longer spit on our returning soldiers?  That's what it sounds like to me.
Hersh seems to have forgotten the articles he wrote in The Village Voice about how John Kerry turned his backs on Vietnam POWs and how Kerry sold out to North Vietnam. 
So the very man Hersh condemned over the lack of getting our POWs out of Vietnam but now he adds fuel to the left wing hatred for our military?
The problem with the elitist left is they seem to think we forget what they say years ago.  We don't.

15 When this army gets back from Iraq, puddlebrain and the rest of the traitors better hope they don't turn on them. I don't think it would take over 1 or 2 hangings of traitors for the rest of them to scatter like the cockroaches they are.

16 He was insulting Bush, not the troops.

17 Puddlefuckstick, I don't believe that crap for a second.

There's not a man or woman who EVER served with the 101st who's as simplistic, or cowardly as yourself.

I know far too many of them.

You are a traitor to this nation who should be tried and sentenced.

You're mentally weak and don't have a thing except for the shitty life which you manufactured for yourself.

Cut and run you pussy. Take the rest of the tards with ya.

18 Yeah, I have a mighty hard time believing any Vietnam vet would ever call Kerry a "war hero."



Kerry is a veteran.  Perhaps he isalso a political hero to you.  But he sure is hell ain't a "war hero."

19 BlueHoe:"The mission of the military, and of the comander-in-chief, is to protect and defend the constitution of the United States."

What hogwash. Bush has gutted the Constitution. I wish the military would defend it.

20 Greg: name one instance of "gutting" the Constitution.

21 Gregie: I wish you would direct your hatred at the real enemy of America. Darth Fag.

22 Fuddlepuck: this is a right of center blog. That makes you the "troll."  Benedict Arnold was a decorated war hero. If you want to claim argument from authority here, you've got a tough row to hoe, especially as you're big on making allegations, but real, real short on backing them up.

23 How about HR6166, the Military Commissions Act, that revokes the Bill of Rights, save Amendment 3?

24 You say it only applies to foreigners. No, no, no, the Pres has the authority to revoke any American's citizenship, so we are all subject to it.

25 Rooster,
When are you going to realize that your boy was sent off to malaria land at the behest of Israel? Hope he's OK.

26 My buddy in 172 SBCT in a chat today: "get this, the assholes we arrest go to jail for at least a couple weeks. get 3 meals a day, water, showers, medical attention, and they get paid a decent amount. then they're released back on the streets with more money (from us) than they've had their whole lives"

Sounds to me like we're being way nicer than we should be in Iraq.

Screw Kerry, Murtha.  They just use their service as a political chip to try to silence their opponents, just like you're doing now Puddleduck.  From what I can tell by talking to friends of the family, my uncles, and cousins that were in Vietnam it wasn't one long My Lai or Apocalypse Now despite all attempts by people like Kerry to paint it as such.  Neither is Iraq from what I can tell based off what my friends who are there and were there have told me, -despite Dean, Kerry, Murtha, that moron that said Gitmo was exactly the same as a nazi concentration camp or Gulag, and their bases' assertions otherwise.

My buddies who are over there or just getting back aren't happy with the administration about stuff like not being able to go nab the badguys in Sadr City.  They sure as heck aren't going to vote Democrat though.  They may see the administration as lacking in tactical and strategic prowess, but they see the Dems as at least morally treacherous, if not legally so.

27 That should say "Screw Kerry and Murtha".

28 You say it only applies to foreigners. No, no, no, the Pres has the authority to revoke any American's citizenship, so we are all subject to it

Want to back that up with facts?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Loss_of_citizenship

29 You mean the Wikipedia run by the NSA?

30 DPB, I say they let him in. We will meet him at the border. I bet he would choose to stay if that happened.
 
I want to add something here. I served in the USMC during Desert Storm. That sounds impressive until you find out I was in school for the entire war. Dumbass very likely could have been 101 airborn in Viet Nam. Doesn't mean he did any more than hand out towels at the O club in Saigon. 80% of all service members are in support roles. Only 20 % hold a billet that put them in harms way. Granted in Iraq Harms Way may be easier to find even for support folks. Personally I think Iraq is probably more dangerous for all troops in general than Viet Nam may have been. But I was not in Viet Nam nor Iraq. But then there were not many car bombs going off in Saigon or elsewhere.

31 I'll take that as a no then. Yet another untruthful comment.

32 Seemonk: Make that 10% that ever was in a fire fight. The point is we needed the other 90% in one way or the other.

33 Greg: I've known that for a long time. What you don't understand is the neccessity. Better there than here. I am convinced our actions in Iraq have curtailed attacks on innocent citizens here in the USA.

34 I'd gladly spend time in jail just for the chance to rip his tongue out. People like him make me feel better about getting out of the army.

35 I agree rooster. We need everyone.

36 Greg,

I'm sure we're all just shakin in our boots now that Bush revoked the Bill of Rights.

LOL.  moron.

37

Move Over John Kerry, Or More Leftist Democratic Slander And Defamation Of Our Troops!!!

From Hyscience:
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2006/11/more_leftist_de.php

As the November elections fast approach, it seems that it is “Open Season” out there on our military; and not only by Al Qaeda and the insurgents!

We all know about past statements being made by prominent Democratic leaders such as Senator Durbin, comparing our military men and women, and Gitmo, to “Nazis,” the “Russian Gulag,” and “Pol Pot.” And who can ever forget Representative John Murtha calling our soldiers “murderers,” or the infamous Senator Kerry saying they “terrorized Iraqi women and children in the middle of the night”??? But you would have imagined - especially after the recent Kerry insult to our troops in Iraq, which has stirred so much controversy and rightful condemnation of the Senator, who categorized them, by inference, of being uneducated oafs and underachievers, who “got stuck in Iraq” for “lack of an education” - that barely days away from the elections, the Democrats and their liberal, far-left, radical, socialist allies, would have the gall of being so brazen, as to continue to heap vilification and invectives on our troops! But then, Seymour Hersh does not feel constrained by any such considerations when it comes to dedicating himself to his ignominious “Life’s Work” of denigrating and defaming our military and of spewing his ideological venom!!!

So, here we are, barely five days from the elections, and Seymour M. Hersh, the Pulitzer prize winning vermin who broke both, the so called “Mai Lai Massacre” back during Viet Nam, and recently the “Abu Ghraib scandal” in Iraq, and who has dedicated his worthless life to only rabidly seek for, and dredge up as much muck and mud as he can possibly sling at or impugn upon our military, is at it once again; this time at a Canadian University!!!

According to a report on the O’Reilly Factor, on Fox, Mr. Hersh is reputed to have told his audience at the Canadian institution of learning (or is that of “indoctrination”?) that, quote: “There’s never been an American Army as violent and murderous as our Army in Iraq”!!!

Imagine that! And I was under the impression that our military has been so overly “restrained” in Iraq by our “politically correct,” “sensitive,” politicians - against the barbarity of the terrorist insurgents and their heinous, truly murderous methods, such as IEDs and suicide bombings - that for the most part, they can be accused of rather being “sitting ducks,” when instead they should be mowing down mercilessly all these savages in their lairs without any compunction! Rather that these murderous Jihadists die, than our brave young men giving up their noble lives, trying to make a “Democracy” of their damned, forsaken, rat hole in the sand… for the Islamic Iraqi ingrates!!!

And one has to ask in earnest, how the American citizenship, so eagerly sought by so many from all over the world willing to die to get to our shores, to enjoy what Mr. Hersh and his fellow Democratic “demagogues” so much “hate” and “detest,” namely America, is not stricken from them, and they are banned for good from our shores?!?!

Perhaps, it is high time that “citizenship” be not granted by blind birth (also the case with “Anchor Babies”), but by meritorious, and responsible civil service to our nation, and that such as Hersh, Kerry, Durbin, Pelosi, and their “Hate America” ilk have it stricken from them for good…who so despise the country and its institutions, while cynically taking full advantages of them, and of the unparalleled, unearned, Freedoms granted them!!!

And, no, don’t give me any of that crap about Kerry’s “Purple Heart,” “Bronze Star,” and the rest of his military “Regalia”! His treasonous actions back in the days of the Viet Nam War, his cuddling of the North Vietnamese in Paris with his willing advancement and abetting of their “agenda,” and his staged, infamous, false defamation of his fellow soldiers during the Congressional Hearings in 1971, amply negate any merits on his part; and even makes one think if he did not intend to get as many such “decorations” as he could, in the first place, with the intent of using his “Decorated War Veteran” prestige, as a “credible” bully pulpit from which to spew his leftists, anti-military ideology…as he did!

John Kerry may have as many ill-earned “medals” and “ribbons” on his chest as any “Tin-pot North Korean General in a Kim Jong-il Parade,” but he remains, in his heart of hearts, what he truly really is: “A Traitor” !!!

Benedict Arnold was also a “Decorated Officer.” Had he lived in our times, undoubtedly he would have been just another “Senator in Washington” with a “differing opinion,” like Kerry and his ilk, and his “treason,” and or “Patriotism,” just as with the Democrats now in Washington, would not today be “questioned”!!!

Simply amazing! Open up your eyes America!

Althor

38 101 Airborn in 1965? Hmmm.

39 Perhaps they may have had some support troops or artillery in 1965. But my memory tells me their combat units didn't arrive until Xmas of 1967. I remember because we said bout time we get some help.

40 Rooster, I was thinking the same thing myself, but I guess he could've been there in '65. 

Via globalsecurity.org: "In 1965 the division was deployed to Vietnam. The 1st Brigade and
support troops were deployed to the Republic of Vietnam, followed by
the rest of the division in late 1967."

41 "I served with the 1st Brigade of the 101st Airborne Div in Vietnam in 1965 and 1966"
 
BULLSHIT!

42 But wasn't that a headquarters company? I don't believe they fielded any combat troops. The Marine Corps had troops in Vietnam as far back as 61. But they weren't considered combat troops. More like advisors. I believe they called it the Laotian crisis. I did hear of some aerial surveilance teams that were separated from the 101st and came to Vietnam in 1966. But since they were separated from the 101st they were not under 101st command. The 101st may have had troops in 1965, but the main division came in Dec. 1967. I believe any 101st in 1965 were more of a set up headquarters group preparing for the main division in Dec. 1967. This is from memory and I am an old fart who sometimes can't remember what drink he had last. Or could that be because I was shitfaced?

43 Has puddleduck been exposed as a bull shit artist?

44 Puddlefuckhead: What? No comments. Ya, you got caught. Better to shut up than get in further. Friggin phoney.

45 So much for free speach....................America..Land of the Free...unless you disagree...........

46 "So much for free speach (sic,)....................America..Land of the Free...unless you disagree..........."with the Marxist left.

Politically correct (Anti-White male, anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-Western culture,) Speech codes are enforced in all schools, public and private.