April 08, 2006
To some people hearing this, it was plain that Carroll could only have been speaking under duress. "Jill Carroll forced to make propaganda video as price of freedom," the Monitor headlined its story the next day. Anyone tempted to accuse Carroll of some other motive, cautioned Ellen Knickmeyer of The Washington Post, "should think about what they would do (after) three months with machine guns held to their heads."What did I say about it? I hate to quote myself, but:
In it Jill Carroll seems more than eager to give the 'correct' answers asked by her captors. It's quite sickening some of the answers she gives, but understandable under the circumstances. But, before you accuse Jill of being a victim of Stockholm Syndrome, keep in mind that she was under duress....And here:Very scripted, very much what you would expect the terrorists wanted to hear.
What would you say to your captors after months as a prisoner? You'd tell them exactly what they want to hear. Remember, the only video we have of Jill Carroll are two segments taped while she was still a prisoner--under a considerable amount of duress. The second video we have is one taped in the offices of The Islamic Party of Iraq--the political front for the same terrorists who had victimized her!Which Jill Carroll confirmed here:
"During my last night in captivity, my captors forced me to participate in a propaganda video. They told me I would be released if I cooperated. I was living in a threatening environment, under their control, and wanted to go home alive. So I agreed," she said in a statement read by her editor in Boston.Jill Carroll was the victim here, and the class which she showed upon her release should put many to shame. Unlike Giuliana Sgrena, she has so far refused to use her personal ordeal to push her political agenda and has forcefully spoken out against the barbarians who held her hostage!"Things that I was forced to say while captive are now being taken by some as an accurate reflection of my personal views. They are not."... ...In the statement, Carroll also disavowed an interview she gave to the party shortly after her release. She said the party had promised her the interview would not be aired "and broke their word."... ..."At any rate, fearing retribution from my captors, I did not speak freely. Out of fear, I said I wasn't threatened. In fact, I was threatened many times," she said. "Also, at least two false statements about me have been widely aired: One — that I refused to travel and cooperate with the U.S. military, and two — that I refused to discuss my captivity with U.S. officials. Again, neither statement is true."
Jim Geraghty also chimes in against both the Right and Left, but since we've already discussed the Right's reaction:
There was much ugliness on the right, but there was plenty of the same nastiness to go around on the left. Shortly after her initial remarks, John Podhoretz predicted on National Review Online's group blog The Corner that there would be a lot of talk about Stockholm Syndrome. Shortly thereafter, a contributor to the liberal blog ThinkProgress demanded an apology (presumptuously speaking for Carroll) and other commenters on that site wished for Podhoretz to get kidnapped himself, labeling him a "Reichwingnut" and so on.No it is not.No matter how much you may disagree with a network anchor, reporter or columnist, it's unheard of for a professional writer to say in published work, "I hope that guy gets kidnapped." Even on his worst day, it's unimaginable that Rather (or Bob Schieffer, or any new anchor) would label, on-air an opponent a "Reichwingnut." (Okay, maybe Bryant Gumbel. But when he called Robert Knight "a ****ing idiot," he at least thought he was off the air. ) Nor is any columnist likely to speculate in print that abducted prisoners are in cahoots with their captors, at least without evidence....
The Pajamahadeen have gone from fact-checking Dan Rather to speculating that Jill Carroll faked her tears on her hostage tape. This is not progress.
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Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 08, 2006 09:24 AM (0yYS2)
Jill Carroll may be a moonbat at heart, but she has dissavowed the statements she made under duress, and that's enough for me.
There's plenty of things the moonbats say of their own volition without us having to pick on them for the things they didn't say of their own volition.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at April 08, 2006 09:27 AM (8e/V4)
Another factor that makes me lean toward believing the duress angle was that it's got be harder to be a female hostage, given Muslim attitudes on raping the infidel.
Posted by: Lonevoice at April 08, 2006 09:51 AM (V3Smz)
Posted by: rightwingprof at April 08, 2006 11:24 AM (hj1Wx)
Posted by: Vinnie at April 08, 2006 11:49 AM (/qy9A)
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 08, 2006 03:37 PM (0yYS2)
On that part we do agree.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at April 08, 2006 04:31 PM (8e/V4)
Posted by: darryl at April 08, 2006 06:31 PM (PL/5X)
Jill Caroll deliberately placed herself in harms way. Her abject stupitity cost her driver his life and made her a useful tool of the enemy.
She was / is a featherheaded idiot / idealist that went out to coddle the enemy and got raped and used for doing it.
She was cindy sheephand with journalist credentials.
I'm glad I raised kids that aren't that stupid.
Should I feel sorry for her or should I just pray we wake up, get some common sense and testicles and Nuke the camel fuckers before more jill carrolls have their way with the hearts and minds of my peers and our childrens peers?
Fight islam Now
Posted by: Fight islam Now at April 08, 2006 06:56 PM (/sF8v)
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold at April 08, 2006 08:01 PM (sg325)
Are there really so many people who are automatically willing to give treason a pass just because the traitor got doublecrossed? You'll all make good dhimmis.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 09, 2006 07:03 AM (0yYS2)
Posted by: jj mollo at April 10, 2006 12:23 PM (3/hbN)
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