February 20, 2006
Denmark and Norway on Monday condemned as incitement to murder a Pakistani cleric’s offer of a reward to anyone who kills any of the 12 Danish cartoonists who lampooned the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).“It’s murder and murder is also forbidden by the Koran,†Danish Foreign Minister Per Stig Moeller told a news conference with his colleague Jonas Gahr Stoere from Norway, which has been dragged into the row after a paper published the cartoons.
“Islam is also a religion of peace, mercy and forgiveness. That is why it is my opinion, but also the opinion of many Muslims, this is un-Islamic,†said the Danish minister.
Yes, they kill you for apostasy. From the hadiths: Malik's Muwatta Book 36, Number 36.18.15:
Yahya related to me from Malik from Zayd ibn Aslam that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "If someone changes his deen - strike his neck!"Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17:The meaning of the statement of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, in our opinion and Allah knows best, is that "if someone changes his deen, strike his neck!" refers to those who leave Islam for other than it - like the heretics and their like, about whom it is known. They are killed without being called to tawba because their tawba is not recognised. They were hiding their kufr and publishing their Islam, so I do not think that one calls such people to tawba, and one does not accept their word. As for the one who goes out of Islam to something else and divulges it, one calls him to tawba. If he does not turn in tawba, he is killed. If there are people in that situation, I think that one should call them to Islam and call them to tawba. If they turn in tawba, that is accepted from them. If they do not turn in tawba, they are killed. That does not refer as we see it, and Allah knows best, to those who come out of Judaism to Christianity or from Christianity to Judaism, nor to someone who changes his deen from the various forms of deen except for Islam. Whoever comes out of Islam to other than it and divulges that, that is the one who is referred to, and Allah knows best!
Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."Volume 9, Book 83, Number 37:
"By Allah, Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 632:
Once Muadh paid a visit to Abu Musa and saw a chained man. Muadh asked, "What is this?" Abu Musa said, "(He was) a Jew who embraced Islam and has now turned apostate." Muadh said, "I will surely chop off his neck!"Ladies and gentlemen, the Religion of Peace.
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Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 20, 2006 05:51 PM (0yYS2)
Danish Foreign Minister Per Stig Moeller told a news conference"
Do you know what the penalty for non-believers preaching Islam to Islamists?
Even though I'm making things up here, I'm pretty sure it's death. Just a hunch.
Posted by: Gordon at February 20, 2006 06:03 PM (i0N3d)
Do these Danes ever read any history? Or any liberal, for that matter.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 20, 2006 06:47 PM (rUyw4)
Posted by: dave at February 20, 2006 06:51 PM (CcXvt)
Posted by: forest hunter at February 20, 2006 06:52 PM (Fq6zR)
Posted by: Phil at February 20, 2006 07:14 PM (6nPeV)
Condemn - whatever - its all talk - I know and the muslims know it.
Posted by: hondo at February 20, 2006 07:38 PM (fyKFC)
Honestly, do you think the President doesn't know what Islam is all about, it's goals? or all the analysts that report to him daily do not?
The statement he makes makes sure we do not alienate the billion plus Muslims, and strategic islamic Governments. E.G Saudi Arabia (oil/military bases) Jordan (staging/intelligence) etc.
I believe he gets it. The only thing saying what he thinks would get you is attacks against U.S interests everywhere in hosts nations, $6-10 gallon gas, etc.
Posted by: dave at February 20, 2006 08:41 PM (CcXvt)
Posted by: Bob at February 20, 2006 09:47 PM (EKMxC)
When he asked for help in iraq and went to liberate iraqis and afghans, the media, leftists and europeans (not all), shafted him and celebrated at every percieved failure in Iraq, they continued appeasing islam and jihadists, George Bush was just stupid and was just infringing on the rights of America haters and the media.
Well since the cartoons were published, muslims rampaged and burned, afterall the targets of the jihadist venom (Europeans, media outlets and supposed rights groups) can see if their appeasement and diplomacy will now work.
You see it was easy to laugh at Bush and his Brave soldiers, battling jihadists and terrorists, it was easy to say, if you hadn't gone to Iraq, they would'nt hate you so much.
Can you imagine if bush had come out and said it was fine to print the cartoons, as it is, America is blamed for all the worlds problems, so why add to it.
I think its a brilliant strategy, the haters told Bush, your on your own in Iraq, so he just returned the favour, your on your own too, deal with the burning and beheading, why don't you hire a lawyer, call CNN, try the Hague, make a speech at the Geneva conventions.
Posted by: MathewK at February 20, 2006 10:33 PM (pVHqF)
Still, this is a politically delicate situation nobody would have expected. They were published 5 months ago... who could have imagined massive and violent no-life insanity. I'm not not sorry he appeared soft for one big reason, the safety of our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Posted by: Javapuke at February 21, 2006 12:53 AM (QJsl7)
I hate to say it, but maybe the idiot liberals were right about him all along, maybe he is as stupid as they say. I have totally lost confidence in him and his advisors, and I doubt if I will ever vote Republican again, because they seem to be as crooked and moronic as the dhimmicraps.
As for the apologists in Europe, they're running out of apologies double quick, and will soon find themselves barricaded in their houses waiting to be burned to death, which is a fitting end to appeasers. Maybe the muslim scum will go on a real rampage soon and kill lots of people in Europe, and people there will finally wake up.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 21, 2006 05:22 AM (0yYS2)
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