November 08, 2006
Via FOXNEWS: Eric Ruff, the Pentagon press secretary, said he participated in meetings with Rumsfeld on Wednesday morning and heard no talk of changing war strategies or of Rumsfeld leaving his post. He said he did not know whether Rumsfeld has talked to President Bush about his future in light of the election results.Rusty has called for this several times. It's a shame it took loosing an election to get it done. I like Rumsfeld but he is past his prime. I'm sure Lincoln liked McClellan too. No one liked Grant, but he did win. Rumsfeld is a McClellan on the inside and Grant on the outside. Never quite willing to take the risks necessary for victory.The focus of U.S. strategy for stabilizing Iraq remains the same, Ruff said: handing over more control to the Iraqi government and encouraging the leaders there to make political progress on reconciliation and resource sharing.
The President has Nominated Robert Gates as the new Secretary of Defense.
Denver Post: Gates is the president of Texas A&M University and a close friend of the Bush family. He served as CIA director for Bush's father from 1991 until 1993.Gates first joined the CIA in 1966 and served in the intelligence community for more than a quarter century, under six presidents.
His nomination must be confirmed by the Senate.
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Posted by: osamabinhiding at November 08, 2006 01:17 PM (ZxuJ4)
Posted by: George Ramos at November 08, 2006 01:23 PM (wkRws)
That's a bit like saying that Saddam deserves to be hanged by the neck until dead because he "lost the will to kill people."
Read Woodward's latest book. Rumsfeld is poison and has been his entire career.
Posted by: Professor von Nostrand at November 08, 2006 01:43 PM (Bwpq7)
Read Woodward's latest book. Rumsfeld is poison and has been his entire career.
Really? Well I read "Plan of Attack" and in that he praises Rumsfeld
for his restructuring of the Pentagon from the Cold War mentality that
the Generals would not let go of without a fight. He also praised
Rumsfeld for Afghanistan. Were those parts of Rumsfeld's career?
Posted by: Randman at November 08, 2006 01:52 PM (Sal3J)
Posted by: Cdat at November 08, 2006 01:53 PM (1ISxl)
Posted by: Howie at November 08, 2006 01:53 PM (D3+20)
Posted by: davec at November 08, 2006 02:07 PM (QkWqQ)
Posted by: Rusty at November 08, 2006 02:19 PM (JQjhA)
Posted by: George Ramos at November 08, 2006 02:26 PM (wkRws)
Posted by: allen at November 08, 2006 02:29 PM (adnFb)
Any proof that Rumsfeld didn't take the risks necessary for a victory? How did he override the desires of Bush and the Pentagon? Is coddling Al Sadr Rumsfeld's idea?
President Bush is responsible for everything that happens in Iraq, not the Secretary of Defense.
By dumping Rumsfeld, Bush has told the American people that the Dems were right all along. Happy days.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 08, 2006 02:34 PM (bLPT+)
Only a moron would cite a pimp like Woodward as a military expert. The guy is a serial liar and a shitty writer.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 08, 2006 02:38 PM (bLPT+)
Posted by: Howie at November 08, 2006 02:43 PM (D3+20)
Posted by: Dale Gribble at November 08, 2006 02:53 PM (wkRws)
That being said, Dubya "short shifted" when he went into Iraq prematurely . . his "Military" wasn't where it should have been, and they have never "Caught Up" . .
We have forgotten how we handled the Post WWII . . MacArthur and Marshall with occupation until they felt the japanese and the germans were ready for democracy . .
I maintain, "The Republicans don't know how to fight a war, and the Democrats don't have the balls to" . .
Posted by: large at November 08, 2006 03:17 PM (fEUSs)
While to the West breaking shit, and killing the enemy is a victory - to the middle east surviving the above is their sign of "victory"
Posted by: davec at November 08, 2006 03:17 PM (QkWqQ)
Posted by: PuddleDuck at November 08, 2006 03:51 PM (F+9W9)
And how did all that turn out?
And it seems as if you've missed the importance of Woodward. He's important because he was the house reporter for the Bush White House for the first 6 years. That bought him access. Fortunately, he still had enough professional reporter left in his bones to recognize what that access allowed him to see. Hence, book three.
Posted by: Professor von Nostrand at November 08, 2006 05:05 PM (Bwpq7)
I think Rumsfeld's mistake was that he tried to run the war the way a manager in a corporation administers a project. He should've left the war to the generals. This criticism notwithstanding, I believe D. Rumsfeld was all-in-all a good decent guy, though perhaps not the best person for the job he was assigned.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at November 08, 2006 05:56 PM (vixLB)
Posted by: Howie at November 08, 2006 06:05 PM (D3+20)
I don't think you contradicted yourself at all. I agree that an iron fist should have been wielded against Iraq and especially Afghanistan. I just don't agree that Rumsfeld ever had the option of doing so.
In my opinion, the softer, gentler, war approach was Bush's stupid policy, and Rummy had to mold his strategies around it. I think Bush sacrificed him for no good reason, and aided left by doing so.
I also think Bush got his ragingly stupid policy from the pussies in the Pentagon. It's a little known fact that they're career bureaucrats and the most risk averse ass-coverers in government service. I think they got the last laugh against Rummy for discarding so many of their shitty ideas policies, and personnel.
Even Richard Clarke complained about them in the Clinton years. They were the ones who convinced the poll-watching Clinton to let Bin Laden run free. Their tactic is to thump their medals and say that in their "experienced military opinion," blah, blah, blah.
If Bush would replace them with young and hungry Patton types, the islamopithecines would be cowering around the world.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 08, 2006 06:17 PM (bLPT+)
Randman exposed your plagiarized and fallacious argument. You have nothing left. Stick to the college crowd, numbnuts.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 08, 2006 06:21 PM (bLPT+)
Posted by: osamabinhiding at November 08, 2006 08:41 PM (ZxuJ4)
Whats the difference between a rooster and Osamabinhiding?
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A rooster says: Cockle doodle doo! Osama says: Any cock will do!Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at November 09, 2006 02:26 AM (bLPT+)
What's the difference between Jeff "BigHoles" and Gayrooster?
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Absolutely nuthin'! If you don't find that insulting, I give up!Posted by: osamabinhiding at November 09, 2006 02:44 AM (ZxuJ4)
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 09, 2006 05:56 AM (dk0ga)
Posted by: osamabinhiding at November 09, 2006 02:46 PM (ZxuJ4)
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