August 01, 2006
Woman Axed to Death for Family Honor
(Amman, Jordan) There is no way to apply civilized reasoning for honor killings. The practice should disappear from the planet, like cannibalism and dinosaurs.
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From JordanTimes.com:
A 26-year-old Jordan Valley woman was hacked to death by her mother and sister after delivering a baby out of wedlock, an official told The Jordan Times Saturday.The woman's honor killing is the ninth in Jordan this year. Therefore, I project that between now and December 31, at least six more Jordanian women will die in honor killings.The criminal prosecutor on Saturday charged the 69-year-old mother and her daughter with premeditated murder, the official said.
The victim reportedly received multiple axe wounds to different parts of her body while she slept, the official added.
"The victim, who has been divorced for seven years, became pregnant and delivered a baby boy on the day of the murder," the source said, adding that her enraged mother decided to "kill her to cleanse the family honour."
"The mother and daughter waited until the victim went to sleep, took an axe and hacked her repeatedly until they made sure she was dead," the source said.
The two then headed to the nearest police station in the Jordan Valley claiming to have killed her "to protect their honour," the source added.
Furthermore, it's my belief that justice is seldom achieved in prosecuting the perpetrators of honor killings. Even in those places that are attempting to reform, a drop in honor killings has been followed by a corresponding rise in 'honor suicides.'
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Islam=curse to the planet.
Posted by: Leatherneck at August 01, 2006 05:07 PM (D2g/j)
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Honor Killing, Honor Suicide
It sounds coolah that way
Haywood will check back soon for you dumbasses that like to say this stuff isn't limited to the ancient world.
I'm surprised the jealouse bitches didn't kill her for getting divorced.
It sounds coolah that way
Haywood will check back soon for you dumbasses that like to say this stuff isn't limited to the ancient world.
I'm surprised the jealouse bitches didn't kill her for getting divorced.
Posted by: haywood jablowmi at August 01, 2006 05:13 PM (VUmVc)
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The Jordanian Parliament overwhelmingly rejected a proposed law against honor killings:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3088828.stm
Just remember folks, all religions are equivalent, and all countries are the same.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3088828.stm
Just remember folks, all religions are equivalent, and all countries are the same.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at August 01, 2006 05:20 PM (8e/V4)
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This is why this world needs feminism. There is one aspect that the West and the Middle East have in common: women are still often subordinated. Many so-called Christians in this country say that abortion is wrong, and even certain Muslims can actually agree with that. Of course, they each have different ways of control. Feminists in both countries are presented a false sense that women have "arrived". But what does that mean? Today's working class is far more complex, with more women, especially women of color. Recently, an African-American woman was raped at Duke University. The silence was appalling. Many people (most of them white), blamed the victim and sounded like they even supported the rape. If the woman was white, and the male attackers were black, does that mean that the media care more about white women than women of color who are raped? Racial, gender, and class wounds in this country still have not healed.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200604030004
http://mediamatters.org/items/200604030004
Posted by: anarchistmanifesto at August 01, 2006 05:31 PM (YsTfk)
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OK, I'm going to come out and say that outlawing abortion for religious reasons is not morally equivalent to slaughtering a woman in her bed for the sin of extramarital sex.
And another thing, anarchistmanifesto--the pro-life movement in this country is working through a democratic legal system, in the light of day. The honor killings persist in undemocratic nations, virulently, and are practiced on women often well under the age of consent.
It is often the final punishment for being raped.
If you, like me, are pro-choice, than look at it this way: a raped woman living in a pro-life America might be forced, against her will, to carry her rapist's fetus for 9 months. I believe that this is a gross violation of her autonomy, and she should be allowed control over her own reproduction.
But if you gave her the option of getting killed, or going through the pregnancy...well, you see my point.
We have problems here, but it is morally obtuse to even compare in the same breath the status of women here and there.
And another thing, anarchistmanifesto--the pro-life movement in this country is working through a democratic legal system, in the light of day. The honor killings persist in undemocratic nations, virulently, and are practiced on women often well under the age of consent.
It is often the final punishment for being raped.
If you, like me, are pro-choice, than look at it this way: a raped woman living in a pro-life America might be forced, against her will, to carry her rapist's fetus for 9 months. I believe that this is a gross violation of her autonomy, and she should be allowed control over her own reproduction.
But if you gave her the option of getting killed, or going through the pregnancy...well, you see my point.
We have problems here, but it is morally obtuse to even compare in the same breath the status of women here and there.
Posted by: notdj at August 01, 2006 05:38 PM (aqTJB)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at August 01, 2006 05:44 PM (8e/V4)
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I hear the "rape" excuse for abortion so often, but how many rapes make up the total number of abortions performed each year? Look it up, folks.
Whta happened to the baby in the story, I wonder?
Whta happened to the baby in the story, I wonder?
Posted by: youngbourbonprofessional at August 01, 2006 05:53 PM (gZnyq)
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The insurance salesman needed to axed me a question. I said, "axed me? Is that ebonics?"
Yes, the women was black. Yes it was at Duke University. No, she was not raped. Case closed.
Yes, the women was black. Yes it was at Duke University. No, she was not raped. Case closed.
Posted by: Leatherneck at August 01, 2006 05:55 PM (D2g/j)
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What is anar babling about? African American woman recently raped at Duke. You sure? No one else is. It was a hoax dummy. A qenuine Towana Brawley. Where did this character come from?
Posted by: Greyrooster at August 01, 2006 06:02 PM (XqAoh)
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You know Grayrooster, the man is keeping them down. That is why Condalessa is only in charge of State, and Justice Thomas is really a uncle Tom put there by the man.
That is why the needle in the arm, and the out of wedlock births are so high in the hip hop community. Go axe'm.
That is why the needle in the arm, and the out of wedlock births are so high in the hip hop community. Go axe'm.
Posted by: Leatherneck at August 01, 2006 06:16 PM (D2g/j)
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Thing is, there are probably LOTS of cultures in the world that still practice some assenine or murderous ritual or belief that we could easily condem. So long as they stay on in their fuckin mud hut and don't try to kill me or develop nuclear weapons to threaten me, I'm cool with them doing whatever stupid shit their thousands of year old culture dictates. Whether they call it honor killing or honor suicide, so be it. The more it happens, the fewer of these backwards assed loosers ther'll be with kalashnikovs coming after us. Bring on the bird flux, that's all I can say.
Posted by: Fathairybastard at August 01, 2006 06:36 PM (Xuwmu)
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Mike Pechar,
It is when I read reports like this that I wonder whether I'm being unreasonably harsh in calling Islam and Muslime murderous, barbarous, misanthropic, brutes!?!?!?!?
It is when I read reports like this that I wonder whether I'm being unreasonably harsh in calling Islam and Muslime murderous, barbarous, misanthropic, brutes!?!?!?!?
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at August 01, 2006 06:43 PM (Bp6wV)
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Great--racist shit directed at Condi and Clarence.
Great--an anti-Jeffersonian rant about how human rights are not universal, let them rot.
I'm learning, Carlos. That's for sure.
Great--an anti-Jeffersonian rant about how human rights are not universal, let them rot.
I'm learning, Carlos. That's for sure.
Posted by: notdj at August 01, 2006 07:29 PM (aqTJB)
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FatHairyBastard,
you have a point, and certainly one or two less of Mohammed's Morons is small loss to the world, but unfortunately the ones they kill are usually the ones who question the rules and break them -- for my money, it's anti-Darwinian.
Unfortunately, though, the bastards who control this idiotic religion ARE on the way to screw with you and your way of life, and it's way past time to deal with them in the only way they understand: violence. As with the Japs and Nazis in WW2, the Neville Chamberlain approach of our Democrat brethren (and sistern?) only feeds the alligator a bit longer.
The parallels with WW2 are quite striking. Assuming no more than 10% of the Muslims are of, or support, an extremist bent, that isn't far off from the actual membership of the Nazi Party in 1930s germany. And, though Japan comparisons are tricky, it's probably comparable to the percentage of Japanese citizens who actively supported aggressive empire-building. Most tradesmen, artisans and farmers could give a crap less, but the Jap military pulled most of the strings.
The extremist Muslims make no secret of their aim to attack and kill or convert us. An ignorant and complacent public just doesn't believe it, and like before will be shocked and amazed when the barbarians are at the gates.
However, it's damn sure certain that when they arrive at the gates, the Democrats will be shrieking that it was George Bush's fault somehow.
you have a point, and certainly one or two less of Mohammed's Morons is small loss to the world, but unfortunately the ones they kill are usually the ones who question the rules and break them -- for my money, it's anti-Darwinian.
Unfortunately, though, the bastards who control this idiotic religion ARE on the way to screw with you and your way of life, and it's way past time to deal with them in the only way they understand: violence. As with the Japs and Nazis in WW2, the Neville Chamberlain approach of our Democrat brethren (and sistern?) only feeds the alligator a bit longer.
The parallels with WW2 are quite striking. Assuming no more than 10% of the Muslims are of, or support, an extremist bent, that isn't far off from the actual membership of the Nazi Party in 1930s germany. And, though Japan comparisons are tricky, it's probably comparable to the percentage of Japanese citizens who actively supported aggressive empire-building. Most tradesmen, artisans and farmers could give a crap less, but the Jap military pulled most of the strings.
The extremist Muslims make no secret of their aim to attack and kill or convert us. An ignorant and complacent public just doesn't believe it, and like before will be shocked and amazed when the barbarians are at the gates.
However, it's damn sure certain that when they arrive at the gates, the Democrats will be shrieking that it was George Bush's fault somehow.
Posted by: Master Sgt X at August 01, 2006 07:33 PM (DbZ4m)
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"Greg" El-Mulsim bin Khinzir"
First that was a rhetorical question you buffoon;
and second, that's right nothing impedes me from my anti-Islam aggendum.
heh heh heh heh heh heh heh
First that was a rhetorical question you buffoon;
and second, that's right nothing impedes me from my anti-Islam aggendum.
heh heh heh heh heh heh heh
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at August 01, 2006 07:37 PM (Bp6wV)
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Hey Greg, so what, should they just sit back and let ass-monkeys like you have a free toss at propaganda? Are you really just exposing the obvious? Wow you should be an AP stringer. Better yet just get a Job at the AJC thats the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Or as we like to call it the Urinal and Constipation. You don't need facts or credibil;ity to access all the ignorant jackasses in Atlanta. There are plenty of them too. You can start with the King family. If ever there was a bigger group of nepitistic, freeloading carpet bagging jackasses to take up space and have weight, they probably had the surname of King too. Jump on their bandwagon you of the liberal low brow and lantern jaw.
Hey Greg, Jimmy Carter wrote a love letter to you today. To show you how much he wants to show you his vast peanuts, he posted it to the Washington Post. But I didn't need to tell you that. You know, Jimmy says that a good hug and some peanut oil will take that herpies sore away in no time.
I know you must prowl the various comment sections of your favorite blogs in order to fulfill your chaos compulsion. I for one would like you to keep coming back. As long as you morons keep making noise, I can relax knowing you are still there in front of me. But don't even think about trying to stab me in the back. I have the USofA watching me there. Well as long as I don't eat too much chilli.
Hey Greg, Jimmy Carter wrote a love letter to you today. To show you how much he wants to show you his vast peanuts, he posted it to the Washington Post. But I didn't need to tell you that. You know, Jimmy says that a good hug and some peanut oil will take that herpies sore away in no time.
I know you must prowl the various comment sections of your favorite blogs in order to fulfill your chaos compulsion. I for one would like you to keep coming back. As long as you morons keep making noise, I can relax knowing you are still there in front of me. But don't even think about trying to stab me in the back. I have the USofA watching me there. Well as long as I don't eat too much chilli.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 01, 2006 08:11 PM (n4VvM)
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anarchist - you sound like such a student. You're analysis might get you an A in class, but it's baseless.
Greg: I hope you're right. I think it's great if students in Jerusalem are attempting to influence the debate. I want victory for Israel and propaganda is definitely a battle front in this war on radical islam. I'm not from Jerusalem, nor am I Jewish , but I recently wrote ZOA imploring them to strongly make the case for Israel.
Greg: I hope you're right. I think it's great if students in Jerusalem are attempting to influence the debate. I want victory for Israel and propaganda is definitely a battle front in this war on radical islam. I'm not from Jerusalem, nor am I Jewish , but I recently wrote ZOA imploring them to strongly make the case for Israel.
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at August 01, 2006 08:19 PM (aH6Zf)
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How many people live in Jordan as compared to the USofA? How about 5,759,732. The USofA has almost 300 million. That is around sixty times the number of people living legally in the USofA. If we are to compare using even the totally inaccurate linear caluculation 15*60=900.
So if the same proportional number of trailer park trash ignorant honor killing nimrods lived in America, we could estimate 900 murders would take place based on this one simple reason. Seems barbaric when compared to what happened in Qana don't you think? Especially when you consider these animals commit the crime within their own social/religious group. What does that mean they would do to others from the outside?
So if the same proportional number of trailer park trash ignorant honor killing nimrods lived in America, we could estimate 900 murders would take place based on this one simple reason. Seems barbaric when compared to what happened in Qana don't you think? Especially when you consider these animals commit the crime within their own social/religious group. What does that mean they would do to others from the outside?
Posted by: Cmunk at August 01, 2006 08:34 PM (n4VvM)
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I just realized something. Jordan has fewer "Jordanians" than the number of Jews Hitler ran through the concentration camps during the Holocaust.
Greg your numbers still don't wash. How many of the people included in your numbers were honor killings? How many assaults take place in Jordan that are reflective of the stats you just vomitted in our faces?
Greg your numbers still don't wash. How many of the people included in your numbers were honor killings? How many assaults take place in Jordan that are reflective of the stats you just vomitted in our faces?
Posted by: Cmunk at August 01, 2006 08:39 PM (n4VvM)
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Tony Blair has said that Western values must prevail. This is a good example of why that's true. It's only in my later life that I've come to realize what a truly depraved world we're living in.
Posted by: Richard H. at August 01, 2006 08:41 PM (7KF8r)
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Ah greg, he's so greedy, what with wanting to be first in line on judgment day.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 01, 2006 08:42 PM (v3I+x)
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Well, I just wrote that I wasn't Jewish or Israeli but I take it back. We are all Israelis. They are at war with our enemy, radical islam, and fighting on my (and your) behalf. To all of the soldiers fighting on my behalf, for my freedoms, for Western Civilization, I say thank you. God bless you.
I do not say this often enough. I will do whatever I can to support you.
I do not say this often enough. I will do whatever I can to support you.
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at August 01, 2006 08:42 PM (aH6Zf)
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Call me Alvin, Greggy,
I do not debate over the honor in killing. There is no honor in killing. In fact, death is not likeluy to greet us with honor. Only the living understand honor. To us, those of the living, The dead are just dead.
I do not debate over the honor in killing. There is no honor in killing. In fact, death is not likeluy to greet us with honor. Only the living understand honor. To us, those of the living, The dead are just dead.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 01, 2006 08:51 PM (n4VvM)
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Bartender! One more beer please, I won't go home until Greg makes perfect sense!
Posted by: Cmunk at August 01, 2006 08:54 PM (n4VvM)
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"There is no way to apply civilized reasoning for honor killings."
Alright, I'll rise to the bait. Just keep in mind I only have to "apply civilized reasoning," I don't have to justify it ethically or anything else.
Civilization means having a place set aside for everyone. You set up rules that define various roles and pigeonhole people in these. So long as everyone stays in their place everyone is more efficient and consequently better off than savages. If you live trooping about the jungle, your women have to join in the foraging to keep everyone fed, but if you settle down on farms and tuck the women in huts while the men work the fields, the women get to focus on babymaking and the men on food production and the result is more food and more babies. Yay for efficiency.
Single mothers of bastard children present civilization with a couple problems. They're ancient problems, so every civilization has procedures for dealing with them. One of the problems is how to deal with defectors. Civilized roles carry certain benefits and restrictions and people are always tempted to "cheat," snagging bennies they aren't entitled to or defying the restrictions. The role of a spinster among Jordan's Arabs has serious restrictions, but the benefits are pretty nice too—three hots and a roof over your head, clothing, security and companionship for life in exchange for housework. They have to be exacting about the rules in this case because, if it weren't for the no-sex/no-baby-having restrictions, no sensible woman would marry.
The other problem is what to do with people who don't fit into the roles that civilized society lays down. In Jordan (and most other places) society has little use for bastards and single women who are known to screw. There are three ways to handle this: you could find a use for the useless people, you could simply carry them, or you could get rid of them. Westerners are big fans of Option 2, with the result that the entire West now strains to support a huge population of no-loads, generous welfare systems taking money from productive people to provide food, shelter and medical care for unwed mother and child. Honor killing, by contrast, is Option 3. This is relatively wasteful of life and cruel, but a lot cheaper and free of a number of social problems that come with illegitimacy. It is a reasonable approach to take where money is scarce the birth rate is high and people can stomach it.
Alright, I'll rise to the bait. Just keep in mind I only have to "apply civilized reasoning," I don't have to justify it ethically or anything else.
Civilization means having a place set aside for everyone. You set up rules that define various roles and pigeonhole people in these. So long as everyone stays in their place everyone is more efficient and consequently better off than savages. If you live trooping about the jungle, your women have to join in the foraging to keep everyone fed, but if you settle down on farms and tuck the women in huts while the men work the fields, the women get to focus on babymaking and the men on food production and the result is more food and more babies. Yay for efficiency.
Single mothers of bastard children present civilization with a couple problems. They're ancient problems, so every civilization has procedures for dealing with them. One of the problems is how to deal with defectors. Civilized roles carry certain benefits and restrictions and people are always tempted to "cheat," snagging bennies they aren't entitled to or defying the restrictions. The role of a spinster among Jordan's Arabs has serious restrictions, but the benefits are pretty nice too—three hots and a roof over your head, clothing, security and companionship for life in exchange for housework. They have to be exacting about the rules in this case because, if it weren't for the no-sex/no-baby-having restrictions, no sensible woman would marry.
The other problem is what to do with people who don't fit into the roles that civilized society lays down. In Jordan (and most other places) society has little use for bastards and single women who are known to screw. There are three ways to handle this: you could find a use for the useless people, you could simply carry them, or you could get rid of them. Westerners are big fans of Option 2, with the result that the entire West now strains to support a huge population of no-loads, generous welfare systems taking money from productive people to provide food, shelter and medical care for unwed mother and child. Honor killing, by contrast, is Option 3. This is relatively wasteful of life and cruel, but a lot cheaper and free of a number of social problems that come with illegitimacy. It is a reasonable approach to take where money is scarce the birth rate is high and people can stomach it.
Posted by: ShannonKW at August 01, 2006 09:30 PM (y5HiB)
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WHAT? Did Shannon say honor killing is reasonable? Did you ask the victim? How did you tail taiste? You just chased yourself in a circle going from civilized and civilization around to where you advocate honor murder as reasonable.
There is an episode of Jimmy Neutron where he dumbs himself down to be more popular. Instead of being popular, he becomes a blithering idiot.
Shannon, I think I will bypass the Jimmy Neutron syndrome and maintain more regular moral compass.
There is an episode of Jimmy Neutron where he dumbs himself down to be more popular. Instead of being popular, he becomes a blithering idiot.
Shannon, I think I will bypass the Jimmy Neutron syndrome and maintain more regular moral compass.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 01, 2006 09:50 PM (n4VvM)
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"Hitler staes in close company that deporting Jews would be more in line with the morality of the day, but killing them all is a more reasonable approach so long as the money is scarce and the oven and gas chamber operators can stomach it. He also legalized abortion but only for non arayans."
Posted by: Cmunk at August 01, 2006 09:55 PM (n4VvM)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at August 01, 2006 10:21 PM (8e/V4)
Posted by: Vinnie - Editor In Chief Pro Temporeâ„¢ at August 02, 2006 12:05 AM (/qy9A)
Posted by: Max Power at August 02, 2006 12:48 AM (dpUkO)
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Leathneck's post made me think of something.
Lets see here. A proven imcompetant black from Africa (AKA Kofi the clown) and an American black woman are meeting to solve the problems between Israelis (who are white) and Muslims (who think women are cattle). Perhaps, we should send Al Sharpton and David Duke with them.
Lets see here. A proven imcompetant black from Africa (AKA Kofi the clown) and an American black woman are meeting to solve the problems between Israelis (who are white) and Muslims (who think women are cattle). Perhaps, we should send Al Sharpton and David Duke with them.
Posted by: Greyrooster at August 02, 2006 05:38 AM (XqAoh)
Posted by: Cindy at August 02, 2006 05:45 AM (bUP5y)
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Cindy: The grandfather is going to raise it. After all, Allah is most understanding and merciful.
Posted by: Greyrooster at August 02, 2006 05:54 AM (XqAoh)
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SHANNONKW: It's obvious that some did not understand the content of your post. Being a racist I understood quite clearly. Welcome to the club. In twenty years we will be heros. 70% of blacks born in the US are bastards. 85% in New Orleans. The prisons are full. You cannot safely walk the streets. I ax one bot de problem. He say I be racist mutha fucka. De govement needs to send de check. they don't becus all whites peoples be racist mutha fuckas.
Posted by: Greyrooster at August 02, 2006 06:03 AM (XqAoh)
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The whole lack of appreciation for the sactity of life is why we are fighting these bastards. It is not racism. It is a matter of education. The people who do these things are taught this is the way to handle these situations.
Greyrooster, whereas I don't agree with things you say, I do agree the same people who are generating childern and walking away from the responsabilities, are likely committing much of the crime in the black communities. But the same can be said of the hispanics, and whites as well. The primary similarity in most cases is a lack of enough education to provide for good decision making skills. Public schools don't teach decision making. Perhaps that is a good thing. But decision making is taught at some level. That is where efforts should be focused.
Greyrooster, whereas I don't agree with things you say, I do agree the same people who are generating childern and walking away from the responsabilities, are likely committing much of the crime in the black communities. But the same can be said of the hispanics, and whites as well. The primary similarity in most cases is a lack of enough education to provide for good decision making skills. Public schools don't teach decision making. Perhaps that is a good thing. But decision making is taught at some level. That is where efforts should be focused.
Posted by: Cmunk at August 02, 2006 07:53 AM (7teJ9)
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Cmunk: Education? If all these people were college grads then they would all be working for the government. You think the government is messed up now.
I totally disagree with your statement on whites and hispanics. You know where you live but I know New Orleans. Whites and hispanics are not the murderers, muggers and rapists here. Blacks are. And they are not being punished by the EDUCATED blacks in charge. Just one big black mess.
There are no white or hispanic muggers in New Orleans. All of them are black and they hate you as well as me. Making excuses for evil merely breeds more evil. How can a black run society blame their problems on white people. They is the culprits. They run the city. Not whites or hispanics.
The blacks are quilty. I know thats a racist thing to say.
Bullshit. Put the truth on the table. Tell it like it is. Then and only then can something be done about it.
Make excuses for muslim terrorists and nothing well be done to stop it. Make excuses for white hating black muggers, murderers and rapists and nothing will be done stop it. Same damn thing. The muslims have as many stupid excuses for their killing as the blacks in New Orleans. Accept one, you accept the other.
It's not just New Orleans. When I lived in NYC I never, saw, read about or heard about a white mugger.
Rasism? I'm a white racist (blacks only). There are a small percentage of white who claim to be. However, I've never met a black person that wasn't a racist.
Finding a black that isn't a racist is like finding a Jew who isn't pro-Israel. Maybe one in a thousand.
I totally disagree with your statement on whites and hispanics. You know where you live but I know New Orleans. Whites and hispanics are not the murderers, muggers and rapists here. Blacks are. And they are not being punished by the EDUCATED blacks in charge. Just one big black mess.
There are no white or hispanic muggers in New Orleans. All of them are black and they hate you as well as me. Making excuses for evil merely breeds more evil. How can a black run society blame their problems on white people. They is the culprits. They run the city. Not whites or hispanics.
The blacks are quilty. I know thats a racist thing to say.
Bullshit. Put the truth on the table. Tell it like it is. Then and only then can something be done about it.
Make excuses for muslim terrorists and nothing well be done to stop it. Make excuses for white hating black muggers, murderers and rapists and nothing will be done stop it. Same damn thing. The muslims have as many stupid excuses for their killing as the blacks in New Orleans. Accept one, you accept the other.
It's not just New Orleans. When I lived in NYC I never, saw, read about or heard about a white mugger.
Rasism? I'm a white racist (blacks only). There are a small percentage of white who claim to be. However, I've never met a black person that wasn't a racist.
Finding a black that isn't a racist is like finding a Jew who isn't pro-Israel. Maybe one in a thousand.
Posted by: Greyrooster at August 02, 2006 09:23 AM (XqAoh)
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I know I am a minority. This is what life has taught me.
10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish.
10% of the people own 90% of the business world.
10% of the poker players win 90% of the money.
10% of the population make 90% of the money.
Why the hell would I wish to be a part of the majority?
10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish.
10% of the people own 90% of the business world.
10% of the poker players win 90% of the money.
10% of the population make 90% of the money.
Why the hell would I wish to be a part of the majority?
Posted by: Greyrooster at August 02, 2006 09:28 AM (XqAoh)
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I'm sorry, I forgot to say the latest fad in the New Orleans black community. "Dem muslims or der be standin up to de white racist jus like Ali. Dem Jews all be racist an treat de brothers oer der like dogs. Drop dem bombs and kill de babies. Dem mulim brothers never did nothin to me.
Posted by: Greyrooster at August 02, 2006 09:44 AM (XqAoh)
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Rooster. Your racism have an room for blacks who aren't idiots? I feel is has more to do with values and respect. Plenty trash of all colors if you ask me.
Posted by: Howie at August 02, 2006 10:00 AM (D3+20)
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rooster,
a lot of those blacks you hate so much are fighting and dying in Iraq against the jihadis. Show them a little respect.
a lot of those blacks you hate so much are fighting and dying in Iraq against the jihadis. Show them a little respect.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at August 02, 2006 10:09 AM (8e/V4)
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As Cindy mentioned, where is the baby? Important question. And does anyone think it's suspicious that the mother and daughter waited until the woman had the baby before chopping her up? On the day of birth!
For some reason, the pregnancy was allowed to go full term. She could have been killed long before.
For some reason, the pregnancy was allowed to go full term. She could have been killed long before.
Posted by: Mike at August 02, 2006 01:19 PM (gKQr/)
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What! Kill the mom before giving birth!? And waste a suicide bomber?
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at August 02, 2006 02:57 PM (gLMre)
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Jesus land Carlos: I have yet to see the pictures of blacks that have died in Iraq. All I have seen is whites and hispanics. Perhaps I was in the Phippipines when this occured. Come to think of it I don't remember any black POWs in Nam either. How could that be? Strange. You know your small town in Texas. I know New Orleans. Every Marines that has died in Iraq from here has been white. Blacks in Nawlins don't go to the military. They go to prison.
Remember my boy was one of those Marines who led the charge on Fallujuh and Mosul. I know who charged with him. I have their pictures and many, many letters. Hate to disillusion you.
AND I DO REMEMBER VIETNAM. QUITE WELL. 3rd Batt, 26th Marines. Que Son. I remember a lot of things.
Remember my boy was one of those Marines who led the charge on Fallujuh and Mosul. I know who charged with him. I have their pictures and many, many letters. Hate to disillusion you.
AND I DO REMEMBER VIETNAM. QUITE WELL. 3rd Batt, 26th Marines. Que Son. I remember a lot of things.
Posted by: Greyrooster at August 02, 2006 03:22 PM (XqAoh)
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Carlos I understand your feelings. Hope you understand mine. I was also here during and after Katrina. I know the color of the young man beaten to death in the Superdome. I know the color of the looters. I know the color of the cops that robbed jewelry stores and cadillac dealerships. I know the color of the mayor who ran to Dallas. I know the color of the Clerk of court who robbed the evidence lockers. I know the color of the pilots flying the rescue helicopters. I know the color of the rescue swimmers pulling black asses from the rooftops. I know the color of the boaters being shot at while trying to rescue children.
Any young black men out there fighting for whats right. I'll honor them. But I will not forgive the rest of them because of it.
Any young black men out there fighting for whats right. I'll honor them. But I will not forgive the rest of them because of it.
Posted by: Greyrooster at August 02, 2006 03:36 PM (XqAoh)
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Howie: If you mean many (any) room. Yes, it does.
Would'nt comment on your spelling. Mine is worse.
Would'nt comment on your spelling. Mine is worse.
Posted by: Greyrooster at August 02, 2006 04:26 PM (XqAoh)
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Yeah you would not be telling me anything I didn't already know. My typing, spelling, and grammar is not all that good. Sucks actually.
Posted by: Howie at August 02, 2006 04:31 PM (D3+20)
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Honor Killings, I mean REAL honor killings, are when our soldiers kill towelheads. It is an honor to lower their numbers.
Posted by: Steve Sharon at August 02, 2006 04:37 PM (8tJZY)
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Gotta get that one in the dictionary.
Posted by: Greyrooster at August 02, 2006 08:29 PM (XqAoh)
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Greyrooster, you have seen much, much more than I have, and you are pretty much right in everything you say about NO, but I know some really decent black people that I would trust next to me in a foxhole, and I'll bet you know some, too. And that is not to excuse what happened in NO, and really, I don't blame all of their behavior on them, but on a government that has done them the worst of all disservices by putting them on welfare. And that I blame on liberal whites.
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 02, 2006 08:59 PM (rUyw4)
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jj: We can't put all the blame on the government.
People are personally responsible for their actions.
People are personally responsible for their actions.
Posted by: youngbourbonprofessional at August 03, 2006 07:14 AM (gZnyq)
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Jesusland Joe: Bingo. You hit the nail on the head. Liberals raised them that way. Racist aren't born to it. They're made. Killers, muggers, rapists in the getto aren't born that way they're made. Made by the stupid self hating white liberal establishment during the 60's, 70's and 80's. Made by affirmative action, job preferences, etc:
BUT. Why didn't the poor white and hispanice people in New Orleans grow up to be killers, muggers and rapists? Could it be mommy and daddy? er. what daddy? or who's the daddy?
Why do I hold them so accountable?
Read Young Bourbon Professionals post above.
BUT. Why didn't the poor white and hispanice people in New Orleans grow up to be killers, muggers and rapists? Could it be mommy and daddy? er. what daddy? or who's the daddy?
Why do I hold them so accountable?
Read Young Bourbon Professionals post above.
Posted by: Greyrooster at August 03, 2006 07:38 AM (XqAoh)
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My answer to others who question my racism.
This saturday I will be spending the day with Roy Jones Jr. His uncle Danny, Roosevelt and the rest of the bunch.
For those of you who don't follow boxing I believe he was the greatest ever. Being world champion in 5 (that's right 5) different weights. Roy went like 20 years without a loss. And quess what they are all black. Not an idiot like some peoples hero like the muslims Mike Tyson and Cassius Clay (AKA) Ali the white hater.
Roy is a quiet business man who is successful in more than boxing. He's making a comeback winning last week.
We will be at a private club in Franklinton, La. Those of you who like action sent me a E-mail. I'll get you in.
All seeing idiot. I'll pay your way in. But not your way to the hospital. Come on down. We'll see if you ass is as big as your mouth.
This saturday I will be spending the day with Roy Jones Jr. His uncle Danny, Roosevelt and the rest of the bunch.
For those of you who don't follow boxing I believe he was the greatest ever. Being world champion in 5 (that's right 5) different weights. Roy went like 20 years without a loss. And quess what they are all black. Not an idiot like some peoples hero like the muslims Mike Tyson and Cassius Clay (AKA) Ali the white hater.
Roy is a quiet business man who is successful in more than boxing. He's making a comeback winning last week.
We will be at a private club in Franklinton, La. Those of you who like action sent me a E-mail. I'll get you in.
All seeing idiot. I'll pay your way in. But not your way to the hospital. Come on down. We'll see if you ass is as big as your mouth.
Posted by: Greyrooster at August 03, 2006 12:27 PM (XqAoh)
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All of you.
Please, for once take your collective asses out of your heads and listen to yourselves: "There is no way to apply civilized reasoning for honor killings."
That is the single most arrogant and foolish, and at the same time ignorant position one can have. Adding insult to injury, one of the first posts says "Islam=curse to the planet."
Please take one single second to consider how the oh-so-civilized US looks from outside when we see in the news talks of people suing McDonalds because it made them fat, talks of people killing their neighbours for trespassing on their lawn... Talks of wide scale torture in places like Gitmo.
And please, just please: when you are watching the videos on YouTube and google of 'proud american soldiers' fighting the "Hadjis" in Iraq... notice how these people are children (the US. soldiers)... with the emotional and intellectual maturity of 13 year olds. Of course, that must be hard for the majority of the people glorifying this who are no more than children themselves... You will all end up like those 'sorry' Vietnam vets that people made fun of for 20 years. Of course, you were most probably born in the late 80s, when social commentary on this topic had already subsided.
Bottom line is you look just as ignorant and stupid seen from the outside.
On a more important note: honor is a value that is typically Arab. And for you ignorants out there Arabs are not muslims. There are jewish and christian Arabs. Take 5 minutes of your life and read some information on wikipedia or something.
Honor in the Arab world has more value than your Freedom. One day, when you understand that there could be a difference in values between peoples, you will start understanding why there is mounting anti-american sentiment worldwide. You like freedom? Fine. Be Free. Don't try to force feed that onto everyone else because you think it's The Right Thing (tm). Especially when it's quite obvious that the American Government has no real interest in Freedom, but rather wants economical supremacy.
All you are doing, all of you, is fueling this fire that is burning you as it is. It's not a far off distant thing. It's already happening.
Please, for once take your collective asses out of your heads and listen to yourselves: "There is no way to apply civilized reasoning for honor killings."
That is the single most arrogant and foolish, and at the same time ignorant position one can have. Adding insult to injury, one of the first posts says "Islam=curse to the planet."
Please take one single second to consider how the oh-so-civilized US looks from outside when we see in the news talks of people suing McDonalds because it made them fat, talks of people killing their neighbours for trespassing on their lawn... Talks of wide scale torture in places like Gitmo.
And please, just please: when you are watching the videos on YouTube and google of 'proud american soldiers' fighting the "Hadjis" in Iraq... notice how these people are children (the US. soldiers)... with the emotional and intellectual maturity of 13 year olds. Of course, that must be hard for the majority of the people glorifying this who are no more than children themselves... You will all end up like those 'sorry' Vietnam vets that people made fun of for 20 years. Of course, you were most probably born in the late 80s, when social commentary on this topic had already subsided.
Bottom line is you look just as ignorant and stupid seen from the outside.
On a more important note: honor is a value that is typically Arab. And for you ignorants out there Arabs are not muslims. There are jewish and christian Arabs. Take 5 minutes of your life and read some information on wikipedia or something.
Honor in the Arab world has more value than your Freedom. One day, when you understand that there could be a difference in values between peoples, you will start understanding why there is mounting anti-american sentiment worldwide. You like freedom? Fine. Be Free. Don't try to force feed that onto everyone else because you think it's The Right Thing (tm). Especially when it's quite obvious that the American Government has no real interest in Freedom, but rather wants economical supremacy.
All you are doing, all of you, is fueling this fire that is burning you as it is. It's not a far off distant thing. It's already happening.
Posted by: someone at August 03, 2006 02:12 PM (5+NwO)
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Someone: Always get a kick when the preachers are on the pulpit. Why do people like you never say who they are, where they live, etc: See your blog means nothing unless we can compare our ignorant lifestyles to the preachers. We are searching for the perfect country, race, religion. We just haven't found any.
We generalize, yes. Everyone on this blog is quite aware that there are decent people of all races and in all countries. They do seem to have shrunk to a tiny minority in countries as Iran.
I guess we should have never fought with the Germans or Japanese because there were some decent ones. I say the decent ones should speak up. Our motto once again. All muslims are not terrorists but all terrorists are muslim. I spent some time in Arabia in the 70's. Never found all that honor you speak of. Again the decent ones must have been in hiding.
Your heart is in the right place but your mind isn't.
We generalize, yes. Everyone on this blog is quite aware that there are decent people of all races and in all countries. They do seem to have shrunk to a tiny minority in countries as Iran.
I guess we should have never fought with the Germans or Japanese because there were some decent ones. I say the decent ones should speak up. Our motto once again. All muslims are not terrorists but all terrorists are muslim. I spent some time in Arabia in the 70's. Never found all that honor you speak of. Again the decent ones must have been in hiding.
Your heart is in the right place but your mind isn't.
Posted by: Greyrooster at August 03, 2006 03:52 PM (XqAoh)
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