September 15, 2006

Muslims rally against the Pope

Pope Benedict really put his foot in his mouth by reading quotes from a 14th century Byzantine Emperor. These quotes reflected the Emperor's analysis if Islam. Hint: He wasn't too impressed. Hint 2: They spread their faith through steel and blood.

Fox News has the story.

So now there are protests all over the Islamic world, you know, places like Britain and India. Next thing you know, they will protest the Pope for stating that Jesus is the Son of God, a blasphemy in the view of Muslim scholars.

This could have been a golden opportunity for Muslims to refute the undeserved stereotypes that the Western media has foisted on them. I mean, spreading faith through the sword? That's ridiculous. Was it by the sword that Islam spread to such diverse places as Jerusalem, Persia, Pakistan, and...

What? It was.

Well, so did Christianity. And they learned to overcome that misinterpretation of their own religion. So I am sure that the Muslims have developed a modern, moderate, tolerant, diverse brand of religious ideology that plays well with the other religions of the...

What? Really? They didn't?


Well, I am sure the Byzantine Emperor's face was covered in egg when he realized that his biased and misinformed understanding of Islam was so far from the truth. I mean, it's not like any Muslims ever attacked the Byzan....

What? I see.

Sorry Muslims, I did all I could to protect your good names. Guess the rest of the work is up to you.

UPDATE by Rusty: Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?---the Turkish version of Becket?

Posted by: tolpitz at 11:09 AM | Comments (37) | Add Comment
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1 Miserable failures.
 
That is the catch phrase of the decade, isn't it?

Posted by: Editor at September 15, 2006 11:24 AM (adpJH)

2 Keep spreading hate.

Posted by: wow at September 15, 2006 11:27 AM (L/wan)

3 Well, I am pissed off now. I could go along with some stuff, you know, terrorism, beheadings, anarchy, etc. But attacking the POPE?

That's it. Kill em all......btw, anybody remember who shot the previous Pope? Yup, a muslim. Get the picture?

Posted by: n.a. palm at September 15, 2006 11:30 AM (CWQzg)

4 Ah, Muslims...
Stupid is as stupid does. Rage on, you wacky neanderthals.

Posted by: Ernie Oporto at September 15, 2006 11:31 AM (/lpvu)

5 I dont believe an apology will be deemed "sincere" enough for the muslims.. considering that the Pope is the head of an ancient order that has opposed islam for centuries.. and would still, if they weren't so enthralled with the idea that "every religion is ok!"  BS.

Then the veiled threat that the Pope should "reconsider" his visit to Turkey in November made by a Turkish religious leader..

The Chinese have an old curse, "May you live in interesting times." 

Well.. this sure is interesting.

Hey.. how many Popes did Nostradamus say there was gonna be?  Isn't Benedict next to last?  or is my math wrong?

Posted by: JeepThang at September 15, 2006 11:48 AM (yZQoS)

6 A Turk assasinating the Pope? Inconceivable!

Posted by: Eric J at September 15, 2006 11:56 AM (hrQvk)

7 Yeah, Nostradomus said there would be 1 more Pope after this one.

He also said 'the world' (eg. human existance) would go on for another several thousand years after it ended.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at September 15, 2006 12:04 PM (VvXII)

8 Aparitions of the Virgin Mary has stated Pope John Paul the second was to be the last pope before the end of days and the second coming.
 
I loved the line where the Turkish talking head said his insults were provocative and could incite violence. Like Catholics are the ones he is talking about.

Posted by: SeeMonk at September 15, 2006 12:08 PM (7teJ9)

9
This is how Catholics fight evil. Just not as dramatic is it.
 
Islam, an Arabic word that has often been defined as "to make peace," seems like a living contradiction today. Although it is supposed to be a religion of peace, Islam has been hijacked by Satan and now operates in the dark space of international terrorism.

As we celebrate the birthday of Our Lady, I am proposing that each one of us pray the Rosary for peace. Prayer is what must precede all other activity if that activity is to have any chance of success. Pray for peace, pray the Rosary every day without fail.


There is a great love for Mary among Muslim people. It is not a coincidence that a little village named Fatima is where God chose to have His Mother appear in the twentieth century. Our Lady’s name appears no less than thirty times in the Koran. No other woman’s name is mentioned, not even that of Mohammed’s daughter, Fatima. In the Koran Our Lady is described as "Virgin, ever Virgin."


Archbishop Fulton Sheen prophetically spoke of the resurgence of Islam in our day. He said it would be through the Blessed Virgin Mary that Islam would be converted. We must pray for this to happen quickly if we are to avert a horrible time of suffering for this poor, sinful world.


Turn to our Mother in this time of great peril. Pray the Rosary every day. Then, and only then will there be peace, when the hearts and minds of men are changed from the inside. Talk is weak. Prayer is strong. Pray!


God bless you,


Father John Corapi


Posted by: SeeMonk at September 15, 2006 12:18 PM (7teJ9)

10 "Keep spreading hate" ?

How about I fix this... 

"Keep spreading the TRUTH!" 

thats better.



Posted by: JeepThang at September 15, 2006 12:45 PM (yZQoS)

11 This month's bout of muslim indignation makes me think of the chicken and waffles shop scene in the movie Deuce Bigalo 2. Muslims readily acknowledge through words and actions that islam is violent - but for the rest of us, figuring it out is racist.

Posted by: Graeme at September 15, 2006 12:59 PM (UZPV/)

12 Just some observations; disagree if you like.

Is there anything new or unexpected in the Pope's pronouncement? (Think on this one before you open your mouth.) Is there anything new in the Muslim reaction to his commentary?

There are a gazillion lessons to be learned and interpretations to be made from the same event - ALL OF THEM DEPENDENT ON YOUR POINT OF VIEW AND BELIEFS.

Most enlightened, tolerant, educated, open-minded, sophisticated, reasonable, liberal moderates (the likes of which would become extinct under the auspices of an Islamic regime) would condemn the Pope and his remarks without bothering to verify the context in which they were made or his intent. After all, he should know better, right? If the Muslims issue a Fatwah calling for the Pope’s death and put a price on his head, the above-mentioned sophisticates would advocate the avoidance of situations Muslims might interpret as hostile or offensive and make every effort to reason with them while the Pope goes into hiding for the rest of his life; a wonderful thing, no?

I get the impression that many - not all - but many, of those who count themselves among the followers of Allah, devote themselves to the practice of being offended or with finding offense or affronts to Allah, his teachings, or his followers. Indeed, it would be accurate to say that such practice is part and parcel of the Islamic faith. Thus, the shortcomings of Islam can be blamed on the infidel (or upon heretics). Eliminating the infidel eliminates the problem.

One of my favorite examples of Islamic witch hunting harkens back to a video shot by the CBC in the Taliban's Afghanistan shortly before those creatures came to America on 9-11. It showed a middle-aged Taliban buffoon chasing teenage boys around a pool with a cat-o-nine tails (sp?) at the former Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul because their bathing suits had slipped below their belly buttons (or navels as they say). I believe the buffoon was with the "Ministry of Morality and Decency." (Their “fuck police” must be a barrel of laughs. Poor women.)

But I digress; if they are unable to find or fabricate such affronts, then they have no useful purpose in Islam or in life. It follows that such affronts to Allah, et al, must be challenged with as much force as they can get away with. If they cannot justify violence and death in the name of Islam, make “examples” out of “offenders”, and take lives as restitution for the concocted debasement of Islam then they incite the Islamic rabble that can. This is where the teeming masses of the ignorant Islamic faithful are led to the False Fray in which they end up the losers. As an example, one need only look at how well the “innocent” Lebanese facilitators made out in Hezbollah’s “great victory” in the summer of 2006 over the Zionist State.

An analogy currently making the rounds compares Islam to a bully that does nothing but look for victims. It doesn’t matter what they do or say, he will pick one or more, and beat them into submission. Sometimes he may attempt to justify himself, sometimes he may not. The end result is that the victim does as he says or suffers the consequences.

Will the infidel accept militant, expansionist Islam at the expense of their own sovereignty in the name of peace, reasonableness, and enlightenment? Do the laws of Islam supersede the laws of other countries and cultures under all circumstances? Can you imagine what would happen if the war on terror became the war on radical Islam? Is the answer to these questions to jail or eliminate the people that ask these and similar questions?

Posted by: Benny at September 15, 2006 02:23 PM (DHx5e)

13 What if it did become Islam against Catholicism? Would the multitudes in Europe and Latin America join the ranks?

Oh yeah, Chavez just told Ah,I'mMadInAJar he's got his back.

Guess we better finish what no one else has to guts to admit is under way.

Posted by: haywood jablowmi at September 15, 2006 02:25 PM (VUmVc)

14 A quote in the foxnews article:

"Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam said.

Okay... If someone tells me I'm intolerent of something and I hit them in the eye... doesn't that support their claim?

Posted by: Andy at September 15, 2006 02:34 PM (JgaGY)

15 Andy, that is the kind of Islamic logic that gives me a headache. Here it is in a nutshell, "If you say we are intolerant, we will kill you. We only tolerate those who submit to us. See how tolerant we are."

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 15, 2006 02:56 PM (rUyw4)

16 What's strange to me is my wife works at the Catholic school that my children attend. When I called her at lunch to find out what the principal said about this to the staff ,you know, " like keep your eyes open for some muslim half-men cowards that might try to blow up 6 year olds in the name of peace and thier false "God" She stated she didn't know anything about it. Way to go.

If his holiness actually caves to these savages , I'll die a little inside.

Posted by: Anerythristic26 at September 15, 2006 02:57 PM (kidN1)

17 I was told Islam is the religion of peace.

BTW, do not say your prayers to anyone other than G-d the Father in Christ name. Mary is not G-d, and is fully human. Christ has a human body with the sprit of G-d, or soul.

Posted by: Leatherneck at September 15, 2006 03:44 PM (D2g/j)

18 The Mohhamedan world is a hemorrhoid in a constant state of inflammation. The pope just scratched it a little and it flared up.

Vegas should take bets on how many rioters check out in this latest flare-up. My bet is around 150.

Posted by: negentropy at September 15, 2006 04:06 PM (27KAF)

19 I know that it is inappropriate to assign to the Pope such irreverent actions, but what in my heart of hearts I feel the Pope should do is to stick Christianities middle finger in the face of murderous Islam, and the reality of what it really is, versus the "politically correct" conception of what we have been indoctrinated to think that it is! Just ask the Serbian people!!!

Althor

Posted by: Althor at September 15, 2006 04:22 PM (6mUkl)

20 I know that it is inappropriate to assign to the Pope such irreverent actions, but what in my heart of hearts I feel the Pope should do is to stick Christianity's middle finger in the face of murderous Islam, and the reality of what it really is, versus the "politically correct" conception of what we have been indoctrinated to think that it is! Just ask the Serbian people!!!

Althor

Posted by: Althor at September 15, 2006 04:23 PM (6mUkl)

21 I know that it is inappropriate to assign to the Pope such irreverent actions, but what in my heart of hearts I feel the Pope should do is to stick Christianity's middle finger in the face of murderous Islam, and the reality of what it really is, versus the "politically correct" conception of what we have been indoctrinated to think that it is! Just ask the Serbian people!!!

Althor

Posted by: Althor at September 15, 2006 04:25 PM (6mUkl)

22 Althor, as a young man of about 12, after reading accounts of the destruction of Constantinople in 1453, and the converting of Christianity's greatest church into a mosque, I swore I would not rest until the great church of Hagia Sophia is made into a church again, and Islam has been forced off the continent of Europe. Brave words from a 12 year old, I know, but still a laudy and worthwhile goal.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 15, 2006 04:33 PM (rUyw4)

23 Leatherneck:
No offense but Catholics do not pray 'to' Mary but ask she intercede (what Son refuses his mother?) .... in the Rosary you say Jesus Christ's name 150 times and quote scripture. Isn't even saying Jesus's name in and of itself a prayer? Yes. It amazes me that people think we pray to the Virgin Mary as if she were G-d. NO. AND WE DON'T PRAY TO MARY. It is no different than asking other people to pray for you. What? You as a Christian or Jew or whatever religion have never done that?
Do not think that Islam thinks other Christians are different than Catholics. We are all Christians to them. Don't diss what you don't know.

Posted by: littlesue at September 15, 2006 08:40 PM (Hy6YK)

24 After reading the Pope's entire speech (it's really involved and hard to follow as I have little understanding of the Roman Catholic religion) there wasn't even a mention about Mulsims from that point on. It was, simply put, a call for dailog and reason between people and cultures.

When the Emperor and the Persian guy talked, Constantinople was under siege by the Ottoman Empire. What else would the Emperor have said? Thank you for attacking us? No. Of course not. That's why the Pope used that particular conversation to preface the rest of his speech about reason and dialog.

And now Muslims, of which I'll bet 99.9% don't even know what else was said, have all got their panties in a wad - again. I'm so sick of it.

Posted by: Oyster at September 15, 2006 08:48 PM (YudAC)

25 Oyster:
I agree with you. They get their panties in a wad over everything and then expect the whole world to cave to their demands....or else!!!!
They insult every religion, plently of nations, threaten to kill and do kill plenty of people.
Yet the whole world is 'oh don't make them upset'. Enough is enough.

Posted by: littlesue at September 15, 2006 08:59 PM (Hy6YK)

26 >>>They get their panties in a wad over everything and then expect the whole world to cave to their demands....or else!!!!

They expect correctly, and the world does cave into their demands. Liberals in particular prostrate themselves before islam.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at September 15, 2006 09:16 PM (8e/V4)

27 Oyster: “And now Muslims, of which I'll bet 99.9% don't even know what else was said, have all got their panties in a wad - again. I'm so sick of it.”

As the Anchoress demonstrates no small part of the problem is the MSM. For example see these headlines:
“Pope Benedict, in inflamatory speech, assails all: secularism, Jihad, Islam and the Prophet Muhamad
Ian Fisher
New York Times
09/13/2006”
&
“Pope enjoys private time after slamming Islam
by Guy Jackson Wed Sep 13, 7:50 AM ET
REGENSBURG, Germany (AFP)”
http://www.cggl.org/scripts/new.asp?id=738 & http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060913/wl_afp/vaticanpopegermany_060913115056

Oyster: Tell us whether these two headlines were justified? (Note by the way who published each headline)

Posted by: Mike O'Malley at September 15, 2006 09:25 PM (qoeC2)

28 Well JC:
Your right the world does cave in...we need to start saying NO.

Posted by: littlesue at September 15, 2006 09:51 PM (Hy6YK)

29 .Leatherneck:
We pray to Mary to intercede for us.
Say a friend has a child injured in a car accident. Would you think it wrong to ask friends and the most holy people you know to pray for her?
Why is is wrong to ask the most Holy Saint to intercede in our behalf?
Hail Mary full of Grace the Lord is with thee.
Blessed are thou among women
Blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus
Holy Mary Mother of God Pray for us now and at the hour of our death

Leatherneck, we pray to the most Holy Saints asking them to pray to Jesus on our behalf, like you would ask your neighbor to pray for you or a friend

Posted by: Brad at September 16, 2006 12:32 AM (Ignlt)

30 Hey Brad..
Thanks for backing me up, don't know if you read what I written above and don't forget that prayer is directly coming from the New Testament.

Posted by: littlesue at September 16, 2006 01:13 AM (Hy6YK)

31 Brad...
One more thing...we pray 'through' not 'to' the Blessed Virgin Mary...just like if we ask someone to pray for us..we don't pray to them..

Posted by: littlesue at September 16, 2006 01:16 AM (Hy6YK)

32 WTF: I wake this AM to find Jessie Jackson claiming the Pope should applogize to the fucking muslimes for telling the truth.
Where are all the moderate muslims you liberals in disguise claim to be out there. Outrage against the Pope, attacks on Churches and no outrage against bombing and beheading. All muslims are the same.
Black leaders taking the muslim side. I told you about the black/muslim connection years ago. It will get worse.

Posted by: greyrooster at September 16, 2006 07:28 AM (eqojH)

33 But jesus is the son of god cant those ignoramuses get it into their thick cement heads?

Posted by: sandpiper at September 16, 2006 08:07 AM (6rkkO)

34 Greyrooster, you are exactly right. Most blacks will side with the Muslims, including so-called Christian preachers like Jesse Jackson, who, if he were a real Christian, would back the Pope on this one. The Pope was quoting what a Byzsantine ruler said, for goodness sake, and his point was well taken. If the Muslims had any sense they would realize this, and stop the silly protests.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 16, 2006 11:59 AM (rUyw4)

35 Hey, If it weren’t this, it would be something else.
What's today’s, tomorrows, and next week’s excuse to kill and blow things up?

No apologies hit the nail right on the head as I see it.

Posted by: Brad at September 16, 2006 12:41 PM (6mUkl)

36 I always say stir 'em up, get 'em out in the open light, find out who they are and then smash 'em as they scurry about like filthy cockroaches!

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at September 18, 2006 06:25 AM (Dd86v)

37 Anyone who expects the worldwide Catholic population to rise up in defense of the Pope is going to be sadly disappointed, because the church has been infiltrated by liberals for a long time now, and has been turned almost exclusively as a tool of anti-Americanism in the world, especially in third-world countries, where liberation theology, i.e. communist doctrine wrapped in the Bible, is the big thing. When the jihadis begin the final part of their campaign and open war in our streets, don't look for the Hispanic Catholics to stand with us, because they hate Whitey as much as the jihadis do.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 18, 2006 07:20 AM (v3I+x)

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