January 24, 2006
Iran Threatening War
Iran is now threatening that if the EU imposes economic sanctions that they will use force to close down oil exports out of the Persian Gulf. This would be an overt act of war. Not only would the U.S. responds with military action, but the Europeans as well. Yes, even the French.
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Via Jihad Watch this from Haaretz:
The news site, affiliated with the radical student movement in which President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was once a member, quoted Mohammed-Nabi Rudaki, deputy chairman of the Iranian parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission.According to the report, Rudaki said that "if Europe does not act wisely with the Iranian nuclear portfolio and it is referred to the UN Security Council and economic or air travel restrictions are imposed unjustly, we have the power to halt oil supply to the last drop from the shores of the Persian Gulf via the Straits of Hormuz."
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Wow, they put a lot more stock in the UNSC than I do.
Posted by: Oyster at January 24, 2006 01:44 PM (osKlJ)
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So far its still internal tough talk to the choir.
I am leery of this whole Iran thing. This whole nuclear thing involves their deliberate flouting of International/United Nations Treaties. The failure is theirs and I am uncomfortable being the muscle to prop them up and give them crediblity.
Whatever happens - it has to be unilateral - for our own reasons and for our own goals.
I am leery of this whole Iran thing. This whole nuclear thing involves their deliberate flouting of International/United Nations Treaties. The failure is theirs and I am uncomfortable being the muscle to prop them up and give them crediblity.
Whatever happens - it has to be unilateral - for our own reasons and for our own goals.
Posted by: hondo at January 24, 2006 01:48 PM (3aakz)
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We as a nation much watch Irans jesters closely ,they said Israel must be wiped off the face of the map,and we all know that Israel will not accept Iran being a nucleur power,we car ebecause when they act ,they muslim world will condem and side with Iran,will the west including the U.S. will protect Israel,WW3, in the worst way,we must stop them before they can sell the technoligy on the black market,our sons and daughters will pay the pice if we do nothing
Posted by: Walt at January 24, 2006 01:52 PM (jL8SK)
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Let em cut off the oil. I would gladly pay 12 bucks a gallon if need be to see this greasy fucker squirm in the sand.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at January 24, 2006 01:57 PM (5ceWd)
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Suspect we are looking at a regional "Cold War" developing over the next few years. Could get Hot, but might be containable. Maybe someone should start working up some potential environmental and economic impact studies. The oil will still be there - most of the regional populations would however be dead or sick & starving. Might be bearable to much of the rest of the world - 'cept the 3rd world of course - no oil, no outside money, resourses etc - they would be screwed and drop like flies too.
Who knows? Maybe there is a silver lining here somewhere.
Who knows? Maybe there is a silver lining here somewhere.
Posted by: hondo at January 24, 2006 02:06 PM (3aakz)
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There could be a silver lining, if the USA has the political will to do what is necessary, which I believe is turn off the spigot on Iranian oil.I think that doing so would also show the other OPEC countries what our real power is. After Iran buckles to sanity I would then go right down the list: Nigeria no more fraud/spam : Sudan get nice in Dafur: Saudi Arabia Just say no to Terror Financing: Kuwait hey where is that democracy that was supposed to happen after Gulf War I ?
Posted by: john Ryan at January 24, 2006 02:39 PM (TcoRJ)
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I guess if they shut down their oil exports, a lot of Americans are going to quickly know where Canada is...
Posted by: Venom at January 24, 2006 02:58 PM (dbxVM)
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Yeah, they'll probably be syphoning oil from our cars through straws. friggan OIL BANDITS.
Posted by: Taco Bandit at January 24, 2006 03:07 PM (MOKXn)
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John Ryan
You tend to babble senselessly - I have absolutely no clue what point you think you were trying to make. Try again type slowly.
You tend to babble senselessly - I have absolutely no clue what point you think you were trying to make. Try again type slowly.
Posted by: hondo at January 24, 2006 03:30 PM (3aakz)
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Another silver lining!
International Treaties, the United Nations - they are the ones on the line as useless and irrelevant. could help bring about the collapse of the UN, EU and like. Then it would be every nation (or groups of nations (new alliances) for themselves. No one ever notices but we are in the best position to cope/deal with/ and profit from that.
International Treaties, the United Nations - they are the ones on the line as useless and irrelevant. could help bring about the collapse of the UN, EU and like. Then it would be every nation (or groups of nations (new alliances) for themselves. No one ever notices but we are in the best position to cope/deal with/ and profit from that.
Posted by: hondo at January 24, 2006 03:37 PM (3aakz)
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To me, this is just an idiotic threat with no basis for being taken seriously. Blockading the Straits of Hormuz would be an overt act of war and the Iranian ships doing so would be obliterated quickly. Nobody, including the other oil producers, would support the blockade, since they couldn't sell their oil either. And, it would give Israel and the US a perfect excuse to attack Iran's nuclear facilities.
So, I'd really love to see the morons try to pull it off. Things have been kind of boring lately.
So, I'd really love to see the morons try to pull it off. Things have been kind of boring lately.
Posted by: Eye Doc at January 24, 2006 03:51 PM (YlVBM)
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Everyone keeps looking at this situation from the angle of the sane Western mind, i.e., war is a bad thing to be avoided if at all possible, but one must look at it from the point of view of the insane Middle Eastern muslim, i.e., war will bring about muslim dominance in the world. The people who are hatching these plots do not possess modern minds or civilized sensibilities, and they cannot be dealt with other than as madmen, i.e., killed as quickly as possible.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 24, 2006 04:07 PM (0yYS2)
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Maxie
Stay sane - and stay cool - thats the professional way to do things. If it comes down to war - stay sane and cool.
Are they insane? Maybe. Work it to your advantage - add it to the equation.
Global muslim dominance? Their bigest unspoken desire is to dominate each other - and slaughter each other as required. Their dream is a fantasy based on period a thousand years ago - by a Kurd no less - oh the irony!
Stay sane - and stay cool - thats the professional way to do things. If it comes down to war - stay sane and cool.
Are they insane? Maybe. Work it to your advantage - add it to the equation.
Global muslim dominance? Their bigest unspoken desire is to dominate each other - and slaughter each other as required. Their dream is a fantasy based on period a thousand years ago - by a Kurd no less - oh the irony!
Posted by: hondo at January 24, 2006 04:21 PM (3aakz)
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"...killed as quickly as possible."
IM has my vote on that one. Lets just do what needs to be done here and get it over with. Why delay the inevitable?
IM has my vote on that one. Lets just do what needs to be done here and get it over with. Why delay the inevitable?
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at January 24, 2006 06:02 PM (CtVG6)
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I don't place much stock in the WW3 scenario - even though some might call it that. Our military technology is advancing exponentially. We're light years ahead of WW2 technology (or Gulf I for that matter) so the need for boots on the ground doesn't have to be necessary to step on every single bug.
The answer is to get Rusty to use his contacts to get in touch with Dale's Dead Bug. There are some vermin who have no redeeming value and must be exterminated.
The sooner we get the Death Star in orbit next to the Dish Network satellite to take care of these things remotely, the better.
Ahmadinejad: channel 117
Kim Jong Il: channel 234
Assad: we'll notify you when your account is ready
The answer is to get Rusty to use his contacts to get in touch with Dale's Dead Bug. There are some vermin who have no redeeming value and must be exterminated.
The sooner we get the Death Star in orbit next to the Dish Network satellite to take care of these things remotely, the better.
Ahmadinejad: channel 117
Kim Jong Il: channel 234
Assad: we'll notify you when your account is ready
Posted by: slug at January 24, 2006 06:15 PM (0YdQw)
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I just wanted to point out that I'm not a plagiarist. I was writing my reference to the Death Star above before the new jawa post at http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/153538.php or the link referenced in it.
Not that anyone cares ...
Not that anyone cares ...
Posted by: slug at January 24, 2006 06:23 PM (0YdQw)
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Not only is it unwise to attempt to delay the inevitable, because bad news does not get better with time, but it is in fact better to pre-empt it. The Iranians expect us to go through the whole rigamarole like we did in Afghanistan and Iraq, and they know they can drag the whole thing out until they feel ready for it, so we should hit them now, hit them hard, and take Syria next.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 24, 2006 08:08 PM (0yYS2)
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Lets get it on and get in over. Going to happen sooner or later. Why not now? Git er done.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 25, 2006 08:28 PM (YjVDY)
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Excuse my spelling. Just finished a bottle of Bailey's Irish Cream in 10 minutes. Not my record, but Okay. Only in the land of the free. For everyone's info my son is home for 3 weeks and we are partying, fishing, eating and enjoying all the greatest nation on earth offers.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 25, 2006 08:34 PM (YjVDY)
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