October 09, 2006
NorK Nuke Test Pt. II.
This one has Karl Rove all over it. He probably pushed the button, for all we know..jpg)
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"The Clinton-Kim Agreement of 1994, midwifed by Jimmy Carter, bears its fruit."So writes Hugh Hewitt. This ain't good news for a Monday. All the latest here.
Of course, Foleygate and gay sex / cyber-sex are now the focus of the political conversation in Washington. The Democrats are BACK, BA-BEE!!
Because it is so important to know every salacious detail of an ex-Congressman's perversity , we will simply ignore the fact that a rouge Communist country is detonating nuclear weapons in Asia after launching missles towards Hawaii this summer.
Priorities. Sleep well, fellow citizens.
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Can't necessarily blame Billary and the Clintonistas. The crazy guy (Kim) might have just become more paranoid and crazy with time? Sort of like the 9/11 conspiracists who troll here.
Posted by: Darth Vag at October 09, 2006 07:37 AM (HSkSw)
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Bush has been too busy wasting bodies and treasure in Iraq and to divert his attention to North Korea or to Afghanistan would be "hard work". Let's just stay the course in Iraq and allow the nukes to fall where they may.
DID SOMEONE SAY WMD'S IN IRAQ? MAYBE THEY'RE UNDER HIS DESK HUH, ISN'T THAT WHERE HE LOOKED FOR THEM LAST?
Foolish Americans.........
DID SOMEONE SAY WMD'S IN IRAQ? MAYBE THEY'RE UNDER HIS DESK HUH, ISN'T THAT WHERE HE LOOKED FOR THEM LAST?
Foolish Americans.........
Posted by: civilbehavior at October 09, 2006 08:34 AM (zOBs5)
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Foolish because we tolerate morons like civilbehavior.
Posted by: SeeMonk at October 09, 2006 08:52 AM (7teJ9)
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 09, 2006 10:55 AM (Dd86v)
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But....but.....what about Foley? You people are just trying to change the subject. You know Foley is the issue you should be persuing. Gay sex by Republicans is the single most important issue in the World right now. North Korean nukes....Iran's rush toward nuclear weapons....Muslim terrorism.....Muslim riots in Sweden, France, Britain, and Norway....Russian complicity in the ME with Hamas and Hizb'Allah....war with radicals in Iraq and Afghanistan....Muslim murders of Christians in Indonesia and Nigeria....genocide by Muslim Arab militias in Darfur....all this is just a sideshow to the instant messages of a gay Republican. You conservative blogs are all alike, just trying to make us forget what is really important.
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 09, 2006 11:09 AM (rUyw4)
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Sounds like 1998 redux
Posted by: tbone at October 09, 2006 11:42 AM (HGqHt)
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JJ, those are very real concerns but do you believe that the gov is doing anything about any of that? It is 3 weeks before election and they have had years to deal with those problems (Foley's problem included!). They couldn't get trailers and buses to drowning Americans in America. How many failures can we tolerate until there really is a mushroom cloud over one of our cities? - hopefully New Orleans since 60% of the population has not been able to move back after over a year. Failure after failure of leadership and every time, failure is used as an excuse to take even more power - they couldn't stop the things that were being screamed about in their faces, do you think they're going out of their way to deal with these other issues? - these people need to go and if it's Foley that gets them the hell out of our house then I want every salacious detail imprinted on every brain, whatever it takes, so please, keep defending the incompetent, someone needs to.
Posted by: tbone at October 09, 2006 12:21 PM (HGqHt)
Posted by: pivalleygirl at October 09, 2006 01:08 PM (G8qYZ)
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pivalleygirl, you got the typing thing down! Next step: form argument.
Posted by: tbone at October 09, 2006 01:39 PM (HGqHt)
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tbone, you can't be that stupid. Get buses to people in New Orleans? Hell, man, there were hundreds of buses that were allowed to be ruined in floodwaters rather than used to evacuate people from New Orleans. How in the hell do you attribute that to the Republicans, as it was Democrats in power both in New Orleans and Baton Rouge who were at fault? And now these buses have to be replaced at the cost of hundreds of millions of dollars when they could have just been driven out of NO carrying the people who had no other way to escape. Who do you blame this incompetance on? And what power are you claiming is being taken? The power to read communications between people in the US and terrorists or their supporters overseas? That power has always existed. What rights are you talking about? The rights of terrorists? The rights of foreign fighters trying to kill our soldiers? Please say something intelligent, tbone, because you are coming across as an uneducated hick.
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 09, 2006 01:46 PM (rUyw4)
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Buses are the best you can throw back at me? You're doin a heck of a job, JJ!
Posted by: tbone at October 09, 2006 01:48 PM (HGqHt)
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"The power to read communications between people in the US and terrorists or their supporters overseas? That power has always existed. " - I almost thought you were going to imply that Bush or the gov actually did ONE thing in 5 years but you threw out your only supposed positive development - why weren't they able to see the countless warnings then? Oh no, they need more powers so they will be less incompetent - heck of an argument too!
Posted by: tbone at October 09, 2006 01:52 PM (HGqHt)
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tbone:
It would seem to me, that a lot of rebuilding in New Orleans is being held up by the refusal of Insurance companies to pay any money for houses damaged by flood waters, although I'm sure a nutty liberal would want the taxpayers to pay all the costs for reconstruction.
Maybe it's because secretly Bush is the chairman for Allstate?
It would seem to me, that a lot of rebuilding in New Orleans is being held up by the refusal of Insurance companies to pay any money for houses damaged by flood waters, although I'm sure a nutty liberal would want the taxpayers to pay all the costs for reconstruction.
Maybe it's because secretly Bush is the chairman for Allstate?
Posted by: davec at October 09, 2006 02:31 PM (QkWqQ)
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I'm sure Bush couldn't call the chairperson for allstate (pbuh) and tell him or her how un-American their company is being - funny how checks rolled out when it was an election year in hurricane ravaged Florida. Whenever these guys want something to happen, laws be damned, it happens. But a bunch of low class brown skins lose their livelihoods and over a year later nothing can be done because of a corporation? Because of local Dems? - wow, some superpower - what, Clinton wasn't to fault for Katrina? I mean he did get a BJ right? You all sound fairly educated, how do you persist in these pre-packaged GOP delusions?
Posted by: tbone at October 09, 2006 04:25 PM (HGqHt)
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Yes, because insurance companies insure against Hurricane damage, but do not insure against Flood damage.
Sorry to break it to you, KKKarl Rove wasn't running the check press to swing an Election, he had Diebold for that, right?
Sorry to break it to you, KKKarl Rove wasn't running the check press to swing an Election, he had Diebold for that, right?
Posted by: davec at October 09, 2006 04:28 PM (QkWqQ)
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So, how many 'claims' were rejected in Florida? You may want to actually look it up before rapid fire GOP response initialization. And do not say any BS that no flooding occured in Florida.
Posted by: tbone at October 09, 2006 04:32 PM (HGqHt)
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Rhyleh:
I don't call myself a "conservative" just because I think you guys are unhinged doesn't mean I'm for the other side.
For Governor of my state, I would vote for an Independent, and like the independent(s) running, the same goes for Jessie Ventura -- likewise an independent if he ran for President.
The two party system is for chumps, it only causes the atmosphere we have now, two useless parties that deliver little of what they promise, the only reason I lean towards the Republican view, is because the history of national security in the hands of Democrats, and I hate Socialists.
I don't call myself a "conservative" just because I think you guys are unhinged doesn't mean I'm for the other side.
For Governor of my state, I would vote for an Independent, and like the independent(s) running, the same goes for Jessie Ventura -- likewise an independent if he ran for President.
The two party system is for chumps, it only causes the atmosphere we have now, two useless parties that deliver little of what they promise, the only reason I lean towards the Republican view, is because the history of national security in the hands of Democrats, and I hate Socialists.
Posted by: davec at October 09, 2006 04:35 PM (QkWqQ)
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I'm with you davec - finally someone makes sense!
Posted by: tbone at October 09, 2006 04:39 PM (HGqHt)
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Democratic vs Republican National Security
First, 9/11 occurred on Bush's watch. Second, Bush wanted to hand over control of our ports to a national corporation owned by a country that has financial and operational ties to terrorism. Third, Bush disbanded the efforts to catch OBL and took our commandos out of Afghanistan. Fourth, the Republicans have a shady history with Iran, e.g., the Iran Contra scandal. Bottom line: Republicans only care about making a quick buck, and will play politics with our security to get it.
Socialism
If you hate socialism, I'm sure you're against public education, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, right? Will you stand up for your values by refusing to participate in or benefit by these socialist institutions?
First, 9/11 occurred on Bush's watch. Second, Bush wanted to hand over control of our ports to a national corporation owned by a country that has financial and operational ties to terrorism. Third, Bush disbanded the efforts to catch OBL and took our commandos out of Afghanistan. Fourth, the Republicans have a shady history with Iran, e.g., the Iran Contra scandal. Bottom line: Republicans only care about making a quick buck, and will play politics with our security to get it.
Socialism
If you hate socialism, I'm sure you're against public education, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, right? Will you stand up for your values by refusing to participate in or benefit by these socialist institutions?
Posted by: Rhyleh at October 09, 2006 04:49 PM (Q+ifs)
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first, the planning for 9/11 was FIVE years in the making, during which everyone was asleep at the wheel.
I wonder what course of action emboldened Bin Laden's opinion he could defeat the United States?
"After leaving Afghanistan, the Muslim fighters headed for Somalia and prepared for a long battle, thinking that the Americans were like the Russians," bin Laden said. "The youth were surprised at the low morale of the American soldiers and realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat. And America forgot all the hoopla and media propaganda ... about being the world leader and the leader of the New World Order, and after a few blows they forgot about this title and left, dragging their corpses and their shameful defeat."
You know, the same things the Democrats are proposing now "Run Away!, Flee!" how many more Bin Laden's do they want to Embolden this time?
Jimmy Carter Iran embassy, Bill Clinton : Operation DESERT FOX, Operation Merlin, Transfer of technology to China, I mean the list goes on and on.
Democrats want all the same thing, stop hitting the snooze button.
Stand up to my principles by breaking the Law? good one.
I wonder what course of action emboldened Bin Laden's opinion he could defeat the United States?
"After leaving Afghanistan, the Muslim fighters headed for Somalia and prepared for a long battle, thinking that the Americans were like the Russians," bin Laden said. "The youth were surprised at the low morale of the American soldiers and realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat. And America forgot all the hoopla and media propaganda ... about being the world leader and the leader of the New World Order, and after a few blows they forgot about this title and left, dragging their corpses and their shameful defeat."
You know, the same things the Democrats are proposing now "Run Away!, Flee!" how many more Bin Laden's do they want to Embolden this time?
Jimmy Carter Iran embassy, Bill Clinton : Operation DESERT FOX, Operation Merlin, Transfer of technology to China, I mean the list goes on and on.
Democrats want all the same thing, stop hitting the snooze button.
Stand up to my principles by breaking the Law? good one.
Posted by: davec at October 09, 2006 05:16 PM (QkWqQ)
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Your Strategy
...is what, to continue with Bush's failed policies? I never advocated for withdrawal. My actual opinion is that at this point, a change in administrations and strategy would be best. For example, reconstruction should be handed over Iraqi firms with the goal of reducing their unemployment rate, which is now 40%. US companies shouldn't have the monoply on construction contracts as they do now.
Socialism and Principles
No, stand up for your principles by refusing the benefits of the socialism that you supposedly hate. And if you really do hate socialism with all of your being, then you would be willing to defy the law to stand up for principle.
...is what, to continue with Bush's failed policies? I never advocated for withdrawal. My actual opinion is that at this point, a change in administrations and strategy would be best. For example, reconstruction should be handed over Iraqi firms with the goal of reducing their unemployment rate, which is now 40%. US companies shouldn't have the monoply on construction contracts as they do now.
Socialism and Principles
No, stand up for your principles by refusing the benefits of the socialism that you supposedly hate. And if you really do hate socialism with all of your being, then you would be willing to defy the law to stand up for principle.
Posted by: Rhyleh at October 09, 2006 05:57 PM (Q+ifs)
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Rhyleh:
Do I have to point our your stupidity for all to see again with your if you supported X, you'd do Y?
For the record chump, I said why I don't vote Democrat, I'm sorry I'm not goosestepping into your ideas of how great the Democrats are, I'm sure if you could force me, you'd have me vote the way you wanted.
Your opinion was spoonfed to you by DU: http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/04/03/05_jobs.html
Do I have to point our your stupidity for all to see again with your if you supported X, you'd do Y?
For the record chump, I said why I don't vote Democrat, I'm sorry I'm not goosestepping into your ideas of how great the Democrats are, I'm sure if you could force me, you'd have me vote the way you wanted.
Your opinion was spoonfed to you by DU: http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/04/03/05_jobs.html
Posted by: davec at October 09, 2006 06:11 PM (QkWqQ)
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Sorry I was late in returning, but the rifle range and a little deer stand work took up most of the afternoon, and the daughter's study time has just ended. Now, back to bonehead, why is it that reconstruction in Mississippi is preceding at a rapid pace, yet nothing is being done in NO. What do you attribute that to, tbone? Any ideas. Is it because the people in Mississippi are not sitting on their asses waiting for someone to do everything for them, but have rolled up their sleeves and gone to work. We have a regular poster here on Jawa who is from the Mississippi Gulf Coast. His nick is Greyrooster. Let me pose the question to him. Greyrooster, why is the rebuilding effort in Mississippi preceding at a rapid pace, and why is nothing happening in NO? If he doesn't answer, I'll give you first hand knowledge, as I'm going to Biloxi/Gulfport this weekend.
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 09, 2006 09:17 PM (rUyw4)
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"The Clinton-Kim Agreement of 1994, midwifed by Jimmy Carter, bears its fruit."
Can we call it the Albright Bomb now?
Can we call it the Albright Bomb now?
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 10, 2006 10:08 AM (8e/V4)
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JJ, I can't claim to know why reconstruction is faster in some areas but I do know that's a beautiful region of the country with good people, I hope your trip (vacation?) goes well.
Posted by: tbone at October 10, 2006 02:49 PM (HGqHt)
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Naw! No vacation tbone. JJ is going down to Biloxi to pick up some smarts from the good people down there so he will be better able to determine who the idiots and morons are out here in the real world. LOL
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 11, 2006 12:47 PM (Dd86v)
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