1 (No Killing "Innocents"-- Innocents = Muslims, everyone else is fair game)

This part is made in some of the Hadith I've seen. I can try to find the Hadith's again so I can share, but I was getting most of my translations from the Muslim American Society of Minnesota.

If you want to look around a bit yourself, here is the info;

http://www.masmn.org/22.html

I have 'A Manual Of Hadith' by Maulana Muhammad Ali, but it isn't enough. You need to get all the different Islamic law sources you can. At least with the MAS site, your getting a translation that they themselves, are willing to admit to.

I have not found a stipulation in any Islamic law, requiring that a Muslim treat a non-Muslim as an equal. I have found countless references for carrrying out violent Jihad. In fact, all other sins are forgiven to one who performs "Jihad, in the way of Allah".

So Jihad forgives everything, that it doesn't already justify.

If you wanted to be a serial killer, you could justify it as Jihad, and nothing in Islamic law would dispute you, as long as your victims were not Muslim, or (possibly) Dhimmi.

I'm still looking for the Hadith that will change my current view, but it's a lot to read. I recommend the effort, especially to those who doubt the agressive totalitariam nature of 'true' Islam.

Anyway ... I agree with Jesusland Carlos, who posted before me, but appears after me. A lot of folks on the left are to busy hating Christianity to worry about Jihadists coming to town. It's sad ...

But I'm not for outlawing Islam, if they Muslims can act like civilized members of the human race. Sorry Greyrooster, I can't quite go that far (yet).

USA, all the way!

2 Here's where your Leftard pipes in that, yes, he's afraid of jihadis, but he's even more afraid of Pat Robertson and evangelicals.

3 I'm nor a lawyer but how does this ass get away with what he says and does. The Brits must be crazy to keep this trouble maker in their country. Again, I say OUTLAW ISLAM.

4 Guess you can carry that innocent meme over to the uncovered meat problem in Oslo:
 
"The reported number of rapes in Oslo is now six – 6! – times as high per capita as in New York City."
 
Of course the Religion of Pease is implicated......
 
Trivia Tidbit Of The Day: Part 386 -- Rape In Oslo.
 

5

Is the world truly falling apart around us? With the holocaust conference in Iran, LOON's like this in the UK and elsewhere, and the obvious sickness in SW asia, are normal people getting a clue yet? or are they just worried about PlayStation 3 and who is playing in the super bowl?

6 Britain has a perverse "freedom of speech." In america, the first amendment protects all speech, regardless of content, with only certain exceptions (such as child porn and advocacy of imminent violence). Outside of these 4 or 5 exceptions, the speech can only be restricted in very narrow circumstances.

The violence exception has been watered down in the US over the past 70 years, but has been abolished altogether in the UK.  Meanwhile, the UK has carved out a new, nice and fat exception for "hate speech," meaning that if it is "hate" speech, you can be thrown in jail.

Thus, in the UK, you can be thrown in jail for saying "homosexuality is a sin" or "Islam is a religion of violence," but you are allowed to say "kill all joos and whitey too!"

7 Oh, also, in the UK and most of europe it is illegal to say "the holocaust only killed 4 million jews, not 6."

Although holocaust deniers are some of the most vile people around, I like the US system, where we let them spout off the crazy talk, and then mock folks like David Duke into obscurity. Notice how in America, where we actually give two shits about free speech, we do not have a viable neo-nazi political party; Europe is filled with them, and they control seats at all levels of government?

The UK thinks its citizens are little children who need to be protected from "bad words"

8 Michael: That's a big IF.

9 There's an American band called Stuck Mojo that has an answer for these "innocents"

youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI