1 Some people just seem to be a bit too eager to send our Armed Forces off to war.

2 Slick Willy is so full of it.

As an Iranian I have three things to say:
a) Airstrikes against the main props of the regime will enable citizens to overthrow the regime including its terrorist nuclear ambitions.
b) Sanctions work on governments that actually care about their populations. Whereas with the Mullahcracy it's in fact quite the opposite, their objective being to sacrifice the property the dignity and the lives of individual Iranians on the Arab and his f**king religion.

c) Slick Willy, Jimmy Carter, Hilary Clinton and their ilk along with Muslims and Islam can go collectively f**k themselves.

3 Hey "John Ryan" Qolam-Ali Tazi

And some people like you are afraid of losing their paymasters in Tehran.

That's right you worthless Arab-worshipping Muslim f**k; be afraid. Be very afraid!

4 "You need to talk to everybody before you bomb them. In other words, if
you're going to fight with somebody - I don't care what you don't have
in common - you should talk first."

That is the all time best quote I have ever read from old Bill...and by best I mean completely fucking stupid.

Some people just seem to be a bit too eager to send our Armed Forces off to war.

And other people seem so ready to give in  to any terroristic demand in the best Dhimmi fashion....and by best I mean completely in the sense of being completely devoid of testicles.

5 John Ryan:

Our armed forces exist to protect the American people.
They are funded by the American people, and they are an entirely volunteer force made up of American people.
No sane person is "eager" for war, but to eliminate the possibility of preemptive military action only emboldens an enemy, as history has repeatedly shown.

The men and women of our armed forces knew what they were doing when they signed up. They have trained for this and they know what they are fighting for.
While anti-war crowd is over here pretending to support our troops (and simultaneously undermining their mission), they are re-enlisting in record numbers.

I've got several military friends who are (or were) in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't know if you've ever asked them what THEY want, but I have...
They don't want your protection, they want your support. They believe in their mission and they want to be left alone to do it.

They are not war mongers, any more than I, but they understand something that you apparently do not... we are fighting for our survival, and our enemy seeks nothing less than our complete annihilation.

6 Garduneh Mehr the Canadian who wants Americans to go to war to do what Garduneh Mehr does not have the balls to do...

7 Rangardo DI whatever the hell your name is,

First, if the U.S. takes on the Mullahs I'd volunteer to serve alongside U.S. servicemen as an interpretter because I'm too old to be useful as a soldier.

Second, unlike dirtbags such as yourself I don't presume to tell Americans what they should do. I have complete faith that America can and will act in the defence of its citizens and its friends as it always has.

Third, with or without American help the Islamic Republic is NOT long for this world.

Fourth, you and other Pinko's can join Muslims and the Clintons in going to hell even if you're already there.

8 How much talking did he do before he bombed an aspirin factory in Sudan? Presidents have been making the same mistake for decades -- namely "listening to the C.I.A"

9 HEY, DON’T FORGET ABOUT CONTAINMENT!
For you horribly disabled non-statisticians out there, here is a key fact: If all countries were placed on a bell-curve of nastiness, most would clump in the middle, with Iran  North Korea, and a few others, on the tail, as the most nasty.  Over time, a powerful phenomenon called “regression towards the mean” occurs, and they tend to drift back toward the average, or mean.  All else being equal, random events conspire to create “average nastiness”.  Tyrants lose power, or they run out of the money they need to do bad things, they get assassinated,  their people rise up, etc.  Honestly, this really happens.  Examples: Nicaragua, ALL of South America (compared to 1965), Panama, Libya, and of course, the Soviet Union (remember them?).  Ergo, if the democracies simply CONTAIN Iran, it will likely improve over time, on its own.  Condi recently pointed out that Iran’s economy is fragile (still much weaker than 1979), people are getting very tired of poverty, the isolation, and their obviously emotionally disturbed president.  Hate is also very disabling to Iran.  Many people in the Middle East cling to hate as an addiction, passing it on to their children, cherishing it inside themselves, using it as the centerpiece of their lives.  For Iran, hate is an enormous waste of time and energy.  FINALLY, we probably have time on the nuclear issue.  There are only two ways to make nuclear weapons, Plutonium - 238, or enriched uranium.  Key points:  (1) North Korea has no usable weapons; their "fizzle" shot occurred because they only have REACTOR grade plutonium (80% pure or less), which can only be refined to weapons grade at enormous cost, and they don't have significant usable enriched uranium;  (2) Most Russian nukes are mothballed and have degraded to an unusable state, and (3) Iran has no idea what they're doing.  Contrary to web chit-chat, building reliable, weapons-usable and deliverable nuclear weapons is very hard, and Iran would only get one shot at an attack.  Russia has never perfected stable, reliable weapons where you could just push a button and get a reliable bomb blast of a certain size in a certain exact place on the other side of the world.  (Remember these people are still driving Lada’s.)  Given these facts, are these Iranian fanatics (who could not even build a Lada without help), a clear and present danger to the US?  Russia seems to be playing Iran along to take their money.  Iran apparently tried for a North Korean nuke, but now realize that huge, ship-sized nukes that only fizzle are useless.  They probably planned to hit a coastal city, like Tel Aviv.  Right now, we (democracies) just have to keep up the pressure, and focus on containment  If the democracies have to bomb Iran as a kind of last-minute thing, we will.  Astonishingly, even liberals will support war if the enemy is at the gates.

10 "Ergo, if the democracies simply CONTAIN Iran, it will likely improve over time, on its own."

Nice hypothesis, but it fails to take into account some salient points:

1. In the years since the revolution, there has been no sign of improvement in Iran... quite the opposite.

2. The Politburo and the Ayatollahs have vastly different ideological makeup. While the Communists wanted power, wealth and dominance, the Ayatollahs desire a biblical apocalypse.
The factors that prevented the soviets from initiating a nuclear war do not exist when dealing with 'radical Islam'.

3. Given points one and two, even assuming your hypothesis is correct, we may not have the luxury of waiting for a nuclear armed Iran to catch up to your bell curve.

11 I know a whole lot of Persians in SoCal who would give up their BMWs and enlist in the US military (either translating or combat), if only they knew we had a commander in chief with the balls to wipe out the mullahs. Unfortunately, the Iranian people (both good and bad) are smart enough to know that the US gov't is hampered by a shortage of balls - they saw what happened to the uprising in Iraq following the first gulf war.

12 IdiocracyRules:


Containment has worked wonders against Iran so far. 30 years of uninterupted terrorism and war against America.


It would make more sense to talk to a syphilis spyrochete.


Something you probably do evey time you apply creme to your sores.

13 I wonder if he gave poor little monica any talking to or warning  before bombing her blue dress.

14 Yet he was willing to order the attack there in SAMOLIA to draw attention way from his own shady afairs

15 Aw, look at everyone still attacking slick willy after all these years. Better than focusing on the current CHIMP/POTUS.

16 It's not so much an attack as a re validation for the extreme disaproval of a person who brought a great deal of dishonor and shame to the Presidency. Now before you go off on attacking by comparing, let's just stick to the subject at hand. That's going to keep things in perspective. And from where many sit, the view of the clintons is pretty poor. It gets even worse eveytime they open their pie holes. As the mistakes made unfold, it's chess not checkers you know in policy, history will be the judge. One thing that is not in question is intergrity matters, no one is above the law and one is either a politician or a leader. The latter usually spends his terms trying to straighten out what the former did.  That is the place at which we find ourselves now.

17 osamabinthere -

If he'd shut the hell up and go away, we wouldn't have new cause to refute his most current idiocy... and the 'attacks' (which are really responses) would cease.

18 osamaisawigger: It's called having the class to wait until he is out of office before shouting  his faults thereby not helping the enemy by showing our lack of solidarity. But class is something you wouldn't understand. Lefturds never do.

19 Class? You mean cowardice not to call bullshit when you see it. Rooster, If you like Bush that's fine. It doesn't mean I have to. He is not immune to criticism. I doubt you held your tongue much about Clinton during his 8 years, right? I would hope not. All presidents make stupid (rather large) mistakes and should be called on it.

20 Yuuuup..... no shortage of material in that department with any administration. It just seems that there is more of an attck on the office itself this time around. That spells trouble. t r u b u l....trouble.
You'll have to provide the other .98 cents here as I only have .2 ....
 
This President is doing what he believes to be right in the long run, not for a popularity contest. We have always had great leaders tested in that way, some passed and some acted like contestants on American idol. You're a better thoughtful poster than you are a Don Rickles. You've just got to accept.... no.... learn to tolerate without accepting ( paying attention Professor?  I'm trying here ....that's a whole thesis unto itself...) others may react poorly to a thought that doesn't fall into line. It's also worth noting given the situation we're in right now how tit for tat can just keep going for the sake of itself.
 
Just a thought and now.... back to the gutter!

21 yup trubble.... that's .02

22 Osamaisawigger: Wrong asshole. I kept my mouth shut about everything except his defiling the oval office with the fat bitch and lying to us on television. You wouldn't know what patriotism is. I place the good of this nation before my individual agenda. You lefturds don't.

23 Ah, Gayrooster...so you ever get tired of spewing the same lies? I guess in your book a Patriot is a pussy who can't call bullshit on King George. Fuck that. A proud American stands up to bullshit, regardless of who is in office. Bubba Clinton's pearl necklace is NOTHING compared to the bungling of CHIMP. Why don't you focus on Clinton's errors of leadership instead of obsessing about him making one of your pigs squeal.

24 Islam delenda est.

25 blah