July 13, 2006

Haifa Possibly Hit By Iranian Missile, Not Katyusha Rocket (Updated)

Ace, Allah, and LGF have info regarding the possible involvement of Iranian Revolutionary Guards in the war.

I'll update if it's confirmed.

OTOH, this site says that Hezbollah has an Iranian version of the Katyusha, called the Fahr-3, with a range of 45 kilometers, however the hell far that is. I don't *do* the metric system.

Okay, it's about 29 miles.

Update, Fox has a Breaking banner "Israel blasts main route between Beirut and Damascus."

Update, too: In The Bullpen shows us what we're missing.

UPDATE by Rusty: Hizbullah broadcast on one of their television stations today that they fired a "Raad 1" missile at Israel. The image below was captured from Hizbullah TV, as rebroadcast by YNET. (Hat tip: Drudge)

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This, on the other hand, is a Katysha rocket. It can either be mounted on the back of a truck, or fired singly.

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Rocket Jones adds this about the Katyusha:

It's not insignificant, but as weapons go it's not very large either. They are unguided, medium-range weapons (~12 miles), perfect for harrassment and interdiction fire (the Russians load them onto truck-mounted launchers and fire them in salvos of five to twenty or more.

They can be purchased on the black market for about a thousand dollars each.

They can carry chemical weapons.

Cheap and simple weapons can be incredibly cost effective when their proper use is understood.

This is what Hizullah claimed:
"That's the missile used by Hizbullah to respond to Israeli attack and to hit military strongholds of the Zionist enemy. The rocket is of 333 mm in diameter and has a warhead of 100 kilograms. Our fighters used it today when they attacked the military base in Har Meron which was severely damaged and set on fire."
I had been under the impression that RAAD were longer range, guided missiles. Much bigger than what al Manor broadcast. Is that really an Iranian made RAAD missile? I dunno.

In any event, Hizbullah is claiming sole responsibility.

Updated by Vinnie: Hell if I know, according to my searches, the Iranian RAAD missile is a modified Silkworm cruise missile, with an 1100 lb warhead, far larger than the 100 kg warhead claimed by Hezbollah. Of course, Iran also has the RAAD anti-tank rocket, sort of like an RPG a TOW missile, and the RAAD self propelled artillery vehicle. Apparently, the Iranian military likes the name "raad," which means "thunder" and we're all a'scared of thunder.

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1 Your website is a Zionist (racist) mouthpiece.

Posted by: Zionism Blows at July 13, 2006 07:05 PM (+nlyI)

2 And proud of it, too.

Posted by: Vinnie, Editor In Chief Pro Tempore at July 13, 2006 07:12 PM (/qy9A)

3 Zionism Blows is a little correct. Many people here are very ignorant when it comes to Islam and use the actions of only a few crazy muslims to make it look like all muslims do what they do. Every religion has its extremists. But I don't think Zionism really blows. If Iran wants to use terrorism, then so be it. In a few hours the CIA can get the Arbav Martyrs of Khuzestan, PJAK, MEK, BLA, and the universities to wreak havoc upon the Iranian fascist regime.

Posted by: Some Dude at July 13, 2006 08:05 PM (llVQM)

4 Hokay...let's look at the babies' claims. (I lived next door to this SA during college and he'd make these wild ass claims and then be stuck pondering why I didn't believe him. His daddy had a lot of money, he had servants, and his SA friends hung on every word...why was I skeptical?)

"The rocket is of 333 mm in diameter and has a warhead of 100 kilograms."

Hokay. 13.11 inches across. The main guns on the USS Missouri were 16 inch guns. So you've got a 13+ inch missle being fired.

Hokay. 100 kilograms is 220 pounds. Now...how much weight is going to be used to provide lift for 220
pounds for 26-30 miles?

And now we find out that Hexbolla has 11,000 of these missles? Eleven thousand tons of ordnance...and the locals never knew?

Imagine living next to Dachau and having to say "we never knew".

No proportionality in response. Please...end this.

Posted by: OregonGuy at July 13, 2006 08:57 PM (czPiw)

5 Wipe al-Qaeda, al-Asqa Martyrs Brigade, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Hezbollah, and all of the other Islamist pigs off the face of the planet wherever they hide (usually among schoolchildren and women). End the misery for the world.

They are and have been begging for war for years - and Israel is giving it to them.

Iran. Syria. Take note- you're next if you try anything (well, besides bankrolling and arming Hezbollah).

Wipe the motherf*ckers out. Now.

How's that, SomGuy and ZionismSucks?

Posted by: Good Lt at July 13, 2006 09:06 PM (jWYAe)

6 I'm not sure that the weapon pictured is capable of stable flight let alone 30 klicks and 200 kilos of warhead. No fins nor any visible means of inducing spin instead.

Posted by: Quilly_Mammoth at July 13, 2006 09:07 PM (oWHNz)

7 To: SomGuy and ZionismSucks (Don't count on us to defend you, chicken sh*t kuffar...pay your dhimmi now!)

All Islamic fascist understands is force it's about time we show them the force that GOD has given us.

Allah is on our side Islam...Mohammed PBUH (Piss be upon him)

Love the Jawa report just thought is was time I put my 2 cents in!

IA out

Posted by: IA at July 13, 2006 09:39 PM (n90fZ)

8 Looks to me like the nozzles are canted a bit to provide spin, like the 1844 Hale's rockets.

I expect they have a better propellant than the black powder of the Hale's rocket, but need a solid propellant grain. Liquid propellants cause complex effects when you have a spinning rocket, with the CG changing as you burn fuel and oxidizer.

Posted by: Don Meaker at July 13, 2006 10:28 PM (hZT0l)

9 Funny that when you e-mail "Zionism Blows" you get for an address---Muslims to rule the world.com. And this clown calls others racist? Please, become a suicide bomber so the world can be rid of you.

Posted by: Nuts to Islamic Fools at July 14, 2006 06:36 AM (bk84U)

10 Good LT and IA, you are obviously ignorant about Islam. Muhammad(pbuh- PEACE BE UPON HIM!)freed many slaves from the old Arab system and brought a lot of change to Arab culture, and for the good of the Arabs. Muhammad was very respective of Jews and Christians and treated them like brothers, so I think you should treat Muhammad and Islam with same respect they had given you for the first 200 years of its history until a bunch of barbarians who called themselves Christians(They were bad Christians, they slaughtered all of the Jews in Jerusalem and many Turk and Arab villages and cities. That's not what a Christian does)invaded muslim territory and slaughtered many innocent people. Free Iran! Support PJAK!

Posted by: Some Dude at July 14, 2006 12:38 PM (llVQM)

11 FREE IRAN. Ha, ha. This nut doesn't know on country from the other.

You stupid Jerk: That's what we are saying. FREE IRAN.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 14, 2006 05:22 PM (pkrE/)

12 I know Iran is different from Syria and Israel and Lebanon and many other countries. Iran is special. They are one of the only theocratic states in the world. If you visit Regime Change Iran, then you would know not many people like the mullahs. There are 3 insurgencies being waged by numerous groups. Here are a few. PJAK, MEK, Arbav Martyrs of Khuzestan, BLA, PKK, and Janallah. I don't know the exact name of the Turkemn insurgencies though. But I bet you know.

Posted by: Some Dude at July 15, 2006 11:11 AM (llVQM)

13 Zionism Blows: Now how is the hell could this blog be a Zionist racist blog when I have been here for years. I a known racist and KKK'r.

Have to think ahead in this business.

All-seeing-eyeidot couldn't see the end of his nose.

Outlaw Islam. Its people are stupid.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 16, 2006 05:32 PM (EJPUn)

14 Oh! I forgot. I hate muslims. They stink and are an inferior race. Is that racist enough for you? I can do more.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 16, 2006 05:34 PM (EJPUn)

15 Some Dude: Be sabour.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 16, 2006 05:40 PM (EJPUn)

16 WTF does sabour mean? It's not in the dictionary. And don't call me an idiot, I just named most of the terrorist and guerilla armies fighting the Iranian givernment.

Posted by: Some Dude at July 17, 2006 10:25 AM (llVQM)

17 you all are saying big words; well i think that you forget that you are chicken shit and your afraid even from your shadows; you were fucked in iraq and you were fucked in afganistane and vitname and a lot of ather places; you are not superior; it is us we have the problem with our leaders they are scared and they don't care about there countries or there poeple so until we solve this issue you will stay saying these words but after we solve it you will croll back to your underground holes

Posted by: ahmed at July 18, 2006 06:33 AM (FpV/w)

18 Farsi for peaceful.

Ahmed you and your people offer nothing to the world but killing, cruelty and torture. You are an ignorant race that refuses to join civilized people. You invent nothing, you create nothing. You can do nothing but copy the western world. Everything you now look at, drive, operate, type on or listen to comes from others. You are animals. Barbaric, silly, cruel and stupid beyond belief. You are parasitic on the rest of the world. You are members of a gutter religion that keeps you with the mentality of cavemen. AND YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO KNOW IT.
Amd your stupid threats to the civilized world doesn't scare anyone. If we really feared you cavemen we would simply eleminate you for the good of the world. Personally, I believe we should do exactly that.
You copy our language poorly. When yours sounds like a cat coughing up a fur ball I understand your desire to copy ours.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 18, 2006 08:00 AM (kw+3p)

19 Some dude: Since you were praising and cheering for Iran's freedom I assumed you knew what the world peaceful means in Iranian. Which is called Farsi.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 18, 2006 08:04 AM (kw+3p)

20 This is crazy. From what I see here, the Jews are humiliating the muslims with words; as if what they have been doing in real life is not enough. To think all muslims are terrorists is stupid, and to think all Jews killed Jesus is stupid too.

This world must live in peace brothers, and if u r jew, christian, muslim, hindu, athiest, or whatever, we are all humans that deserve to live in peace and harmony.

So beat it.

Posted by: Whiterooster at July 19, 2006 10:26 AM (r+iXh)

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