June 10, 2005

Grace

By Demosophist

maudlin gal

The epitome of being cute and ghastly at the same time. Thank God the long national nightmare of the Jackson trial is almost over, and we can get back to more conventional sappistry.

Update--the "why" of this post: For the "huh?" people: There's a "bread and circuses" feel to the Nancy Grace/Greta VanSustern phenomenon (except that the power offering the distraction is the ancien regime of the mainstream media). How do people like this maintain celebrity status? I watch these maudlin women spew their slushy pseudo-professional claptrap and it makes me even more acutely aware of the fact that the media aren't covering some of the most critical news about the project to rescue civilization, and what they do cover they nearly always do so badly.

I also, for the life of me, can't figure out how any of the stuff these queens of ghoul cover is even interesting. How the deuce does anyone watch the Jacko coverage and stay off life support? I nod off so quickly I'm afraid of a neck injury. And just for the sake of gender-correctness I feel exactly the same about Larry King. I think he even puts himself to sleep.

By way of what ought to be a shameful comparison for the folks above, consider Linda Vester's Dayside. The woman even has a decent blog!

(Cross-posted by Demosophist to Demosophia and Anticipatory Retaliation)

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1 huh?

Posted by: Tenfly at June 10, 2005 09:05 AM (Z2lRM)

2 I like her because she isn't a polished mannequin such as you'll find on the usual cable news fare.

Posted by: Carlos at June 10, 2005 09:18 AM (8e/V4)

3 I heard yesterday that if Jackson is convicted, he will serve time in Corcoran Prison. It's about half way between Fresno and Bakersfield, on the very hot and dry side of the San Joaquin Valley. Sirhan Sirhan and Charles Manson are both there. Roomies!

Posted by: Scott in CA at June 10, 2005 10:05 AM (di08w)

4 Can't quite see Jacko hanging out with Manson.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 10, 2005 10:20 AM (x+5JB)

5 Supposedly it's the safest of the "safe facilities" where celebrity inmates serve their time. Serial killers, mass murderers, etc. The conditions inside the prison sound WAY more luxurious than what you might expect.

Posted by: Venom at June 10, 2005 10:21 AM (dbxVM)

6 This woman creeps me out, but Greta just has a sad feel of a smart person who's been reduced to stunt-law broadcasting. The other chick is "a polished mannequin" with a bad drawl.

I thought Charlie was in Folsom or at the Q, but he's since been transferred to Corcoran. Considering that he's spent about 50 of his 67 years in institutions, it shouldn't surprise me that he gets around like this. I wonder what Jacko thinks of that. The Protein Wisdom Prison Diaries should be interesting, though.

Posted by: tee bee at June 10, 2005 11:22 AM (q1JHF)

7 I hate Nancy Grace with every fiber of my being. I hate her on the subatomic level; my neutrons, protons, and electrons hate her, and if I ever get close to her, my atoms might spontaneously split and detonate. I hate her stupid cartoon character face. I hate her accent that's even worse than a fake Southern accent. I hate her clothes for being worn by her. I hate the chair she sits in and the ground she walks on. I hate the lightning for not striking her every time she goes outdoors.
But do you want to know why I hate her? Because when that crazy Wilbanks chick hopped a bus to Vegas, Grace was the first to declare her poor, nervewracked, devastated boyfriend a murderer. Not only did the poor man think that his wife was abducted and possibly dead, but he was being accused of it on national television. If I was him I would have hunted Nancy down and gutted her like a fish on live television. But hey, I'm crazy like that.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 10, 2005 01:41 PM (0yYS2)

8 nancy grace is a biatch.....

Posted by: bliss at June 13, 2005 10:34 PM (Db9+P)

9 Will Nancy Grace apologize to viewers for her hateful awful one sided coverage of the Jackson trial?

Does she feel guilty at all about continuously feeding us venemos hateful one sided information about this trial?

I can't beleive that CNN allows this kind of irresponsible reporting. We have watched her manipulate information to create ratings for her show. It is disgusting and I hope God will forgive her when she moves on from this planet. She is clearly an awful phony delivering lies and one sided stories to try to entertain us. How pitiful...when will we petition to get her off the air before she does some real damage to someone innocent?.

Posted by: Robert at June 14, 2005 01:14 AM (SVIbT)

10 Hi, I just stumbled across this site and dont have all that much to say, but i did want to comment on how awful Nancy Grace is. I have no idea how this woman has her own show. She is annoying and arrogant. If you do not voice the SAME EXACT opinions as Nancy Grace there there is no need what so ever to appear on her show. Any guest that says anything other than her thoughts is quickly dismissed. Why the hell does she have other speakers on the show? Why doesnt she sit there in her ugly clothes and go on a rant on her own for an hour...no need for others except maybe the camera guy. I am SO glad that Michael Jackson was found innocent on all charges...of course because I believe he is innocent and a good man who is a misunderstood....but in addition to that I get to see Nancy Grace get so pissed because she was WRONG!! I love it!! She was so mean to him the entire duration of the trial. That witch was SO sure he was guilty...you would have thought she was molested by him....there was nothing that could sway her opinion.
I cannot wait until her show in cancelled. God, I hope that day is really soon.
Thanks!

Posted by: jennifer at June 19, 2005 02:24 PM (eAnLT)

11 For all of ya'll out there "dissin" Nancy, she's like the bad girl on a soap opera.....you just love to hate her!!! She is so passionate and compelling, you can't wait to hear what she is going to say next so you can rant and rave.

Although we all don't agree with her view on issues, we can all certainly agree she is a magnetic personality that gets your attention.

Personally, I love her passion for justice and am proud to see a spit fire southern gal get up there and fight for what's right. YOU GO NANCY!!!!


Posted by: Dixie at June 28, 2005 08:34 AM (LwwEF)

12 Nancy Grace is awful. Her insights and reporting is nauseating and I think she would make an excellent mistress for Fox News' Bill O'Reilly. Much like O'Reilly, when I see her face I change the channel. Her bitter, hateful twit with nothing but trite dramatic nazi psycho-babble to contribute to our world. End CNN Foxifying! Change the channel when you see Nancy Grace and do the world a favor! I change the channel when I see Nancy Grace and so should use.

PS: boycott Fox

Posted by: Balin Hansen at June 30, 2005 09:09 PM (6sbwH)

13 Nancy Grace is a typical southern "lady for show" who is more concerned with presenting a morally perfect front than she is about anything else. She became a lawyer after her fiance was murdered in some sort of quest for justice, but she dropped that act without skipping a beat in favor of becoming a T.V. star. It's a good thing that she was only a mediocre attorney at best, because he is devoid of ethics. To even compare Greta Van Susteren to Tweety Bird is like comparing the Three Tenors to New Kids on the Block. One may be more your tastes, but one may also mean you are a mindless sheep impressed by shiny objects. Greta single handedly jump started the Holloway case and offers unbiased and intelligent insight into the case. Nancy's high points include stuffing her face with a sandwich to in an attempt to make a joke about her crusade against Michael Jackson and accusing the groom of the runaway bride of murder before knowing anything about the case. We should round up Grace, O'reilley, Kavuto, Tom Cruise, Bush, Paris Hilton, and Jackson and send them to fight the good fight on the front lines in Iraq. Let them spend a few months sleeping in tents, dodging hand grenades and weapons fire, and not being given basic luxuries like soap, hot food, and socks. My guess is that all would come back with a totally new outlook on the world... if they made it back alive, that is.

Posted by: J Hudson at July 01, 2005 04:32 AM (Ptor+)

14 Nancy Grace is sexy

Posted by: Anthony at July 01, 2005 02:42 PM (7/UH3)

15 All the self styled commentators should send OJ Simpson a check for establishing their careers.

All had stalled careers until americas interest in trials, etc

The sooner this witch gets off tv the better. It has nothing to do with her southern accent, lack of dress, moral majority phoney persona or anything else you dislike about her, it has to do with her arrogance. Not being able to return and say she is wrong on any position.

Posted by: t. hanif at July 08, 2005 05:51 PM (RFM+A)

16 Love her or hate her, Nancy Grace is definitely hot! I remember when she was much younger and was a prosecuter in Atlanta. Always wore heavy make-up, 4" stilletto heels, and what we used to call "Melrose Place" suits with short skirts. She seemed to enjoy the attention she received, and would often be seen in the company of some of Atlanta's professional black athletes.

Posted by: Atlantaman at July 18, 2005 03:38 PM (0AQzy)

17 Dear Atlantaman -
Nancy Grace HOT ???? Surely you are on some heavy duty medications. There is nothing HOT about this woman. Lets do aside with the obvious, the bad clothes, the bad make-up, the bad wig and those creepy bulging eyeballs.....more importantly she has a miserable disgusting personality. She is a big phony who pretends to care about those who are in need. She uses people so she can put on her "best actress in a drama" persona every night. She is acting like she genuinely cares for people for the ratings and for no other reason at all. Nancy Grace is the farthest thing from "HOT"....Mother Theresa was a billion times "HOTTER" than Nancy Grace could ever hope to be. I hope someone muzzles her like the dog she is.

Posted by: jennifer at July 19, 2005 09:21 PM (eAnLT)

18 Nancy Grace is the farthest thing from "HOT"

I thought she did a decent imitation of a "sexy." What'd you expect? If she were outright ugly there'd at least be some nobility to her lack of grace and mimicry of conscience and integrity.

Posted by: Demosophist at July 19, 2005 11:22 PM (IbWE6)

19 Have any posters here ever seen Nancy Grace in person? Undoubtedly the majority of heterosexual males would agre that from a physical appearance standpoint, the young Nancy as a prosecutor in Atlanta was a "smoking hot" lady. I have often seen her in the upscale Buckhead suburb of Atlanta turning quite a few heads. Ever witnessed her sriding through the courthouse or a shopping mall in 4'pumps? She exudes a confidence and raw sexuality whether you agree with her stances on current issues or not.

Posted by: Atlantaman at July 21, 2005 03:26 PM (0AQzy)

20 we watch nancy and greta every nite, reading some of the comments listed sounds like a lot of uneducated people talking, if someone can make this world with murderers,rapists, sex offenders and the like brought to justice everyone should be thrilled that these women bring the national attention that they do to help make the world a better place. keep up the superb work nancy and greta!now about the natalee holloway case, the possibility that she is still alive and maybe in some white slavery ring,the reward i think should help in some way for some info. if that family doesnt get some answers, I would ask the world to boycott that island until some info is found to be concrete. unfortunate for the people there to suffer the consequences of the loss of tourism but this family has suffered enough with very little answers from the aruban gov.so i say have the world back them up until this has been solved. greta and nancy tell the world to boycott aruba. and again nancy and greta keep up the good informative work.

Posted by: jfs at July 21, 2005 10:44 PM (e7x3j)

21 Dear "Atlantaman" and "jfs" -
Let me address "Atlantaman" first....no, I have never seen Nancy Grace in person and I consider this a blessing. If you think she is "sexy" or "hot", well fine, suit yourself. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My point is even though I don't personally think she is an attractive woman...her unbearable disgusting personality makes her unattractive regardless of her physical appearance. This seems to be a difficult concept for you to grasp. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you that Playboy finally comes to their senses and calls Nancy to pose for the centerfold. I'd imagine that Nancy will be getting that phone call from Playboy ANY DAY now........

Now as for you "jfs" how pleasant of you to call us all uneducated. I am more than sure your degree from Yale is hanging on the wall behind you.
Yes...murderers, rapists, sex offenders should be brought to justice....but gee "jfs" don't you think that should be left to...ohhh lets say...the Police, the FBI, and the CIA and perhaps the Courts ??? No, no "jfs" lets have Nancy Grace tell us what is going on. Surely she knows. She has a magical crystal ball that tells her EXACTLY what happened to every missing or murdered person. I don't think you understand the problem that the majority of the people on this message board have with Nancy Grace. Let me sum it up for you........it is all BLACK and WHITE with Nancy Grace. There is no in between. Its Nancy's opinion and NO ONE elses. She could give a shit less what anyone else has to say. If she believes someone is guilty of a crime, there is NO changing her mind. EVEN if they PROVE that person is INNOCENT she will not change her opinion or say she was wrong. When she gets on one of her hick rants and someone tries to interject or disagree they are immediately dismissed by Nancy. Nancy NEEDS the to be in the spotlight. In all reality she DOESN'T care half as much about these missing people as she leads us to believe on her show. It is all about the ratings. Perhaps at one point in her life she cared, but trust me, she doesn't care that much anymore. When those cameras stop rolling so do Nancy's fake tears. She is a phony. There are hundreds of news channels and newscasters who keep the public informed on all the evil things that happen in this world....I want the story, not some hick bitch to shove her opinions down my throat. You know what else "jfs" ??? Sometimes we the people rely just a little to much on the media. Don't believe everything you hear......just cause you read it in the paper or see it on the news....doesn't always make it true or accurate information.
On another note let me just touch upon the Natalee Holloway case. Yes, it is very very sad that she is missing....and I hope to god she is found alive and well. BUT there are THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of missing people in this world....do they get all the coverage that this girl has gotten? NO. Why? Because they are not all pretty, blonde 18 year olds. If we were dealing with an 80 year old fat man with liver spots and nose hair do you think Nancy Grace and all the news channels would be pleading day in and day out for the recovery of him? NOT A CHANCE IN HELL....and why should we boycott ARUBA because of the possibility of ONE or TWO or a FEW bad people? It has been a MONTH since this girl has been missing......there are people who have been missing for DECADES !!! Do you expect the Aruba police and government to come up with immediate answers??? Why don't we just go ahead and boycott EVERYWHERE???? There are unsolved mysteries of this nature EVERYWHERE!!! Based on your theory "jfs" we are boycotting THE WORLD........stop listening to that bitch Nancy Grace she is filling your head with bullshit. Draw your own conclusions. I believe it is you "jfs" who is the uneducated one.

Posted by: jennifer at July 22, 2005 12:37 AM (eAnLT)

22 jfs:

we watch nancy and greta every nite, reading some of the comments listed sounds like a lot of uneducated people talking, if someone can make this world with murderers,rapists,

Neglected capitalization, run-on sentences, inappropriate punctuation, not to mention bad and idiosyncratic spelling... You must've acquired your education by watching Nancy Grace and Greta Van Susteren, and similar sensationalist TV fare.

My point was that these women distort the worldviews of the people who watch them (as well as pushing out good reporting with bad) and you've helped me make it. Thanks.

Posted by: Demosophist at July 22, 2005 10:56 AM (IbWE6)

23 Nancy Grace, 47, commentator for Court TV.
A “Victim of a violent crime”
THE DOCUMENTED STORY OF THAT CRIME
The Murder of Keith Griffin.
What has she told us about what happened that violent day?
In searching through interviews, magazine and newspaper articles here is what she has said.
Then there are the documented facts gleaned from interviews with Jurors, Attorneys, Judge, Witnesses and newspapers in the area.
First the date, she has said at various times, it happened in 1987, 1985, 1982 and 1980. You would think a date that according to Ms. Grace “changed her life forever” would be burned into her soul. A seminal event!
The date was August 6, 1979 .
She said it happened in a remote wilderness.
It was on the entrance road to the Georgia Kraft Plywood Co. and US Hwy. 278, 1 ½ miles from downtown Madison Ga.
She said her boyfriend did not know his assailant.
They were friends, work for the same construction Co. In fact the prosecutor at trail based part of his case on the assailant killing a friend.
She said her boyfriend was 25.
He was 23.
She said the assailant was 25.
He was 19,
Said assailant was on parole
He was not.
Said he had a record.
He did not.
Said it was a murder for profit.
It was not.
The man was out for revenge after being fired from his job at the construction Co.
Said her boyfriend was driving a jeep,
It was a Bronco that belonged to the Construction Co.
Said it was robbery.
It was not.
Said they found Keith’s wallet with $35.00 and her picture in McCoy’s home
No wallet was found in his home. Just the 38 cal. revolver Ser# 33866 . (Griffin’s wallet was found several days after the incident in the Bronco, by Eli Ingram,)
Said it was a mugging.
It was not.
Said it was random.
It was not.
Said he was still alive when he arrived at the hospital.
He was pronounced dead at the scene .
Said she was asked by Joe Briley the District Attorney if he should seek the death penalty. Grace said she told him No and has regretted it ever since. (If that were true you would think Briley would have asked Griffin’s parents. rather than a 21 yr. old kid) .
The State did ask for the Death Penalty. The jury voted against it.
She said she testified at the trial.
Two Jurors, a Bailiff, a Defense attorney a Court Reporter and Judge do not remember any “white girl testifying”. (The transcripts were destroyed in a fire.) .
The Defendant never looked at her.
The accused stared at the floor during the entire trial. In fact he never spoke a word to his lawyer or anybody before, during or after the trial. (One exception)*
She said McCoy’s defense was “didn’t do it, you got the wrong guy
The truth is... there was never a doubt by anyone he did the crime (there is a confession)
The defense was insanity.
Said the Jury was out 3 days .
Jury was out 5 hrs.
She said there were many appeals.
There were none
Says she is 44 years old
.She is 47.
Documented narrative of what really happen August 6, 1979.
Keith Griffin 23, from Athens GA. and Tommy McCoy 19, an illiterate, mentally challenge Blackman, worked together for the Ingham Construction Co. on the Georgia Kraft Plywood Co. site outside Madison Ga.
McCoy was fired and was out for revenge. On Monday the 6th of August Mccoy left his house with a 38 cal. Revolver stashed in a brown paper bag.
Keith Griffin had taken the company Bronco to town to pick up lunch. Returning to Kraft he saw McCoy walking down the Company road at the intersection of US Hwy. 278.
Griffin stopped either to talk or to give a ride to McCoy. It is not clear which.
McCoy fired six shots at point blank range, five of which found their mark... McCoy then dumped the body in the back seat and in his rush, drove the Bronco in a ditch.
Joe Brown, a maintenance worker for the plant drove by in his truck and not knowing what had happed offered to help McCoy. He refused. Brown drove a few yards decided to return. He told McCoy he would take him to the hospital because of all the blood on his shirt.
The assailant then jumped in the passenger side of Brown’s truck, put the gun in the f ace of the Maintenance worker and pulled the trigger twice, ( At trial he said the gun looked like a “stove pipe”) The gun was empty, Brown ran and McCoy took of in his truck..
Minutes later friends of Brown’s showed up and said they saw the truck and knew where it was. It was parked in McCoy’s driveway. He was arrested a few minutes later with the gun in his possession.
Keith Griffin was pronounced dead at the scene.
Tommy got a lawyer, a good one, Billy Prior. According to Prior, McCoy never said a word to him before, during or after the trail. (One exception)*. During the entire 1 ½ day trail the defendant stared at the floor without moving. Prior did a magnificent job explaining the psychiatric reports and mental history of the retarded defendant. McCoy had been judged “mildly retarded” by the Ga. Central State Hospital. (By the way, no one remembers a “white girl” testifying.)
It worked! The jury turned down the death penalty.
When the Jury came back and announced they would not render a death penalty verdict. McCoy turned to his lawyer and uttered his only words. “Does that mean I’m gonna live”?*
Tommy McCoy, GDC ID: 0000400964 was convicted of murder, aggravated assault (Brown) and found not guilty of robbery. He was sentence to life, with possibility of parole.
He is in his 26th year at the Hancock State Prison at Sparta Ga,
Sources: Interviews with two Jurors, Judge, Attorneys, Court Reporter, the Bailiff. Court and documents,
Larry King Live., New Republic, Atlanta Journal, the Madisonian and Macon Telegraph. Newspapers.
Interview Sources and Documents
Interviewed
Bill Scholly, Investigator, Buckhead Ga. williamscholly@bellsouth.net
Bill Prior, Attorney for Mccoy. Madison Ga.
Joe Briley, District Attorney. Madison Ga.
Columbus Johnson. Sheriff. Madison Ga.
Don and Eli Ingram, Ingram Construction Co. Madison GA.
Hugh Thompson, Judge. Madison Ga.
Roy Dobbs, Jury Foreman. Madison Ga.
Alonzo Farmer, Juror. Madison Ga.
Joe Brown, Second Victim. Madison Ga.
Janet Wilkerson, Court Reporter. Milledgeville Ga.
Sentencing Documents. (Available on request)
Notice to suppress evidence. (Available on request))
Mccoy’s Personal History. (Available on request)
Jury Instructions. (Available on request)


Posted by: gaby8 at August 10, 2005 12:41 PM (vsUd1)

24 You care too much about the details of someone elses life. Nancy suffered a tragedy...period. Why do you spend so much time dismantling her account of the details. Do you miss Keith? Did you lose someone that you love? Get a life! Give the woman a break.

Posted by: Dee at August 10, 2005 10:19 PM (ywZa8)

25 Dear Dee,
I do believe you are missing the point of gaby8's last post. If she can not even keep accurate information of something this close and personal to her, how can we possibly depend on any of the other information she gives the public? She twists the facts. Why? I have no idea...but it is scary that she has her own show where she can distort information to thousands of people every day.

Posted by: Jennifer at August 12, 2005 12:22 AM (eAnLT)

26 Nancy Grace latest.
Fathers beware!



Nancy Grace:

Aired September 12, 2005 - 20:00:00 ET


GALLADORO: I`ve talked -- I`ve talked to my parish priest. And he`s asked me not to think of those last moments, to think of where he is now.

My father was -- my father was just a great man. And I know he`s in heaven. And I know he`s being taken care of much better than he was taken care of a week ago. And that`s what I try to take solace in.

GRACE: Well, Mr. Galladoro, I know your father had one thing that many people will never have, and that is a son that loved him.

Posted by: gaby8 at September 13, 2005 03:46 AM (osEYO)

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