1 Can't very well teach children the history of their nation which another culture has an alternative version of, now can we?
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2 Dear lord, every liberal needs to be taken out and burned alive immediately.

3 But public education is a necessary thing, right guys?
 
Good job commies.

4 Very new age, and new world order B.S. Think global, not national.

5 Can't believe how the Brits continue to bend over for the muslims. This time they aren't even using vaseline.

6 A couple weeks ago I was helping train some Pakistani schoolteachers. They had to give presentations modeling typical lectures they give their students. It was vaguely similar to the stuff you'd see in a Western grade school—grammar, history, math, etc.—except for "Islamiyat," or Islamic studies.

The ethical teachings of the religion here are put out alongside everything else in the curriculum. It takes up a surprisingly large slice of the school day. The lectures I saw were aimed at 9-year-olds and entailed commonplace social obligations to family and neighbors, as well as some fables featuring important religious figures. Watching this it dawned on me that in my entire public schooling in the US there was no mention of any obligations I had to society, though I was thoroughly acquainted with my rights. Here it's the other way around. There's no talk of rights to children (they have none) but their place in society is made clear from day 1.

Now, if you compare this to what the Brits have, it might be tricky figuring out which is the more backward system. On the one hand you could say that where law enforcement is unreliable you must train children in ethics to avoid chaos; where there are no social welfare agencies you must support the authority of the family or watch discarded people starve in the street. The UK is so advanced that it can afford to keep order by putting a video camera on every corner and abate suffering by whisking away the unfortunate to some public institution. On the other hand you could say they are degenerate because these advances have rendered moral instruction superfluous.

What Mr. Pechar is concerned about is what happens when you mix these cultures. When you take a mass of amoral British kids who are raised to rely on polite, efficient bobbies to answer their ethical problems for them, and you plop in their midst some Muslims with some very clear and fixed ethical ideas that they are accustomed to apply on their own, there might be a problem. For the Brits part I don't think returning to moral instruction in school is workable. It's in the nature of democracy to minimize discontent, and far fewer people are offended by moral relativism in school than would be offended by attempting to enforce any absolute morality you could think of.

It would be much easier to require immigrant families to enroll their children in public school. Integrating them is made harder by their fondness for sending their kids to private schools that keep alive those Old Country values. If instead they are forced to drink from the cup of relativism at public school, little Wafa will be ditching her hijab and getting impregnated at raves just like a normal British girl and cultural integration will be achieved.

7 ShannonKW - I don't know if I agree or otherwise. You'd have to de-fog. Hell, one of those sentences has 55 words in it.

8 The only solution to this problem is to have a violent revolution, kill all the left-wing politicians, and kill or deport (depends on how fast they can run/swim) all the Muslims. Of all ages.

At least, this is my sincere opinion and I can say this without fear of reprisal as I am an American and I have the right to voice my opinion regardless of who doesn't like it.

9 Rasta, yer m'boy!

10 ShannonKW is like some big obese ass-bag full of grease waddling her way up to the buffet at Golden Coral and cherry picking the most unhealthy caloric laden bits of food out there. She actually believes the fried cheese is good for her and blames the salad for gigantic ass.

She spews about how “normal British girls” are nothing but amoral cum dumpsters and that islam produces people with “very clear and fixed ethical ideas”. It’s almost as if she’s saying that at some point in the muzzie life something clicks in their pea sized brains and their future behavior has nothing to do with their brain washed youth.

Please give me a minute while I throw up…

That’s better.

You put these kids into Western classrooms and they actually accomplish something. Shannon is happier blaming the system when she walks out into the public with dingle berries matting her ass than herself and family who never taught her to wipe properly. It starts with the family dear – and ends with the family. When that family teaches you to be a hated filled douchebag and calls for the destruction of another nation you’re going to grow up being as big of a piece of shit as your parents are – regardless of where the fuck you live.

Immigrate to Iran you clueless cunt!

11 Shannonkw: Are you biting the hand that feeds you?
The cameras are in place to watch who. The criminals. Could the criminals be black or swarthy in appearance? Could they be the relatives of the Pakis you are training?
I'm not knocking your assessment of the public school system. I required that my children attend public school for 1 year in middle school and 1 year in high school. They then understood why I sent them to private schools.
Polite bobbys are an asset. Try conversing with a black cop in New Orleans. Do you get out much?

" It would be much easier to require immigrant families to enroll in public schools". So they can finish off the public school system? It would be much easier if England didn't have any immigrants. England should be English.

12 Looks like england is going to hell in a handbasket in a real hurry and its all becuase of the wretched Euroweenie Union

13 Greyrooster: I agree that the cameras and polite bobbies are an asset. They help an honest government maintain the peace. Most would prefer the UK to a country where justice is a do-it-yourself project. The US was like that back before the Wild West could be policed. It takes a certain mindset to get your horse thieves lynched. That mindset is mostly gone from countries like the US and UK, which is good in a way because it would cause trouble today. Many immigrants have it, and kids can lose it quickly in public school.

And, yes, it would be better not to admit immigrants that would make trouble in the first place, but no Western country seems able to avoid the practice.

14 ShannonKW: Justice no longer a do it yourself project. You have never been to New Orleans.

Can't avoid Immigrants. But maybe if we started SHOUTING FOR THE ROOFTOPS. Staying silent gets nothing done.

15 Wish my fingers would match my thoughts. No I'm mis spelling four letter words.

16 Thats interesting. Blame immigrants when the culprit is clearly multiculturalism.

Nevermind that the US and other countries absorbed incredible amounts of immigrants in the past. We're all filled up now, can't take any more. Only a dispicable 'conservative' would consider American culture so weak and pathetic (and static) as to be unable to absorb any number of immigrants.

In fact, they're being absorbed very well into American culture; they're obeying the liberal creed of multiculturalism and spitting in your stupid faces, while you blame them instead of the people who you are paying, with your tax dollars, to teach them to hate you.

Another win for conservatives. Barbarians stabbing them in the back and they're concerned with incoming visitors.