1 DONT QUESTION MY PATRIOTISM!!!1!!! WAAAAAA!!!!!

2 I liked the part where Bush refused to take her call and more or less told her to "Get Marcotted".

3 I think Cheney should get his fat chicken hawk ass over there and fight his own war.

4 Osama, you've yet to contribute one iota of viable commentary since I
started coming back to read.  Your pathetic little screeds do get
tiresome.

5 Oyster:

If you read other posts I have with anyone EXCEPT Gayrooster and Jeff Buttholz, you'll find I am capable of carrying on a decent conversation with people who aren't bigoted ass-wipes. If you are sick of the rants, criticize Jeff and Rooster too. They are just as guilty. If you mediate a truce? All the better. It would make for better comments. I highly doubt you could make either of those cretins behave though.

Jeff and Rooster:

Let me clue you in on a very important skill in arguing: Attack the argument not the arguer. Attack the arguer and you show yourself to be an incompetent fool incapable of holding a rational and intelligent discussion. We can have an intellectual discussion without the need to resort to name calling.

That said, don't expect me to take any bullshit!

6 Oyster: I almost forgot...I really do believe that those who order wars should fight in them. That goes for anyone in D.C.

7 osamabinhiding: Oyster is correct; you've never contributed anything other than reassuring readers that liberals really ARE stupid jackasses. For that service, I thank you.

8 I don't question Pelosi's *spit* patriotism: I'm absolutely positive that she is a traitor.

9

Osamabinlitebeer  your 'opinion' on #3 does stink. Since I'm targetng the opinion, you can't say I'm being unfair.

Consider what you are suggesting ... that the Vice president should put aside his resposabilities of office, and assume the reposonsabilities of a volunteer soldier in our infantry, in combat, in Iraq. Like this has EVER happened in U.S. history??? Only in a militocracy will this ever be proper, or practical. In a government where the civilian leadership is in control, you don't want this. At least you shouldn't want this. It also makes a lousy arguement. If we vote for more law enforcement, we should all go out and start arresting people? Yeah ... That'll work.

Also, your suggesting that it is 'his own war', and not ours. There is an overwhelming pile of evidence that this is in fact ALL OF OUR WAR, and that we should own that responsablility, and see it through to victory. Just because you don't like Cheney, is a poor reason to make such narrow comments.

As for sniping with Jeff, and greyrooster, you can either rise above it, or be a hypocrite, but you can't reasonably keep attacking them like you do, and consider yourself a better debator. One of these things is not like the other. "Attack the argument not the arguer" Hey, Osama, that IS good advice. I don't always follow it, but then neither do you.

Now I admit, Ken Hoop is my current least favorite commenter, and I also admit, I am willing to sling mud with him, but I won't try to claim that I'm not being childish when I turn to insults over substance. I do attack his arguement even still, because his arguements generally suck. I'd like to have coffee with him someday, just to see if he is more rational when you can talk to his face. He might do a better job of explaining his position.

Anyway, the 'chickenhawk' remark is just slop. You need to not use that term because it really is just a smear attempt towards whoever you aim it at, and it isn't even close to a true areguement. We have a civilian government. Live with it.

USA, all the way!

10 anyone seen hippity?

11 Anyway, the 'chickenhawk' remark is just slop. You need to not use that
term because it really is just a smear attempt towards whoever you aim
it at, and it isn't even close to a true areguement. We have a civilian
government. Live with it.

why should he have to fight ABOVE your level?

12 Osamabinpunked:


I think you should get your scrawny chicken-shit ass over there and fight your American enemies with your Al Qaeda brethren.


Quit whining and prove the strength of your America-last convictions.


"Master Jeff and Rooster:

Let me clue you in on a very important skill in arguing: Attack the argument not the arguer. Attack the arguer and you show yourself to be an incompetent fool incapable of holding a rational and intelligent discussion."


Hence your ad hominem attack on Vice President Cheney. Moron.

13 "osamabinhiding: Oyster is correct; you've never contributed anything other than reassuring readers that liberals really ARE stupid jackasses. For that service, I thank you."

Bluto, you are incorrect. Ask Young Burbon Professional, Howie, Carlos, etc. I have contributed plenty. While we're on the subject of labeling me a liberal: That makes about as much sense as me calling you a muslim. Do you need to put everyone in a box? Is it easier to justify your rhetoric by doing so? In the past few days I've even seen Rusty called a muslim hugger & Carlos called a lib.

Michael... Yeah, I hate Cheney. For many good reasons too, which are very justifiable. I don't LITERALLY think he should go over there. Just wishful thinking...hehe. As far as "our war"...right and wrong. We all own it. We have no choice there, obviously. I still think it was a bad choice. Even past that, I think it's been bungled. The act that Bin Laden is old news is infuriating to me.

Jeff, if you think I can't diss Cheney for who he is and what he's done, then we don't live in America anymore. A lot of your statements and opinions are quite often "America-last". As far as "Moron": You don't always have to sign your comments.

14 shoogie woogie???
"why should he have to fight ABOVE your level?"
 
If I understand your question, your asking if calling someone a chicken hawk, is the same as remarking about the act of calling someone a chickenhawk. The answer is 'No'. I condemn the usage of the term as counterproductive.
 
Chicken Hawk is slapped around as a cheap form of attack, and except for the fact it sounds kinda socialist sexy, it lacks real substance. This has been discussed elesewhere, and should be almost a no-brainer, dead issue. Usage of the term only serves to turn the conversation into a mud slinging match with no real merits. It is at best, a distraction.
 
Perhaps you were trying to point out that my calling the term 'slop' seemed rough handed, and low. If so, I suggest you substitute the word 'inappropriate' for 'slop' in that sentence. I'm sure it will make the same amount of sense.
 
Perhaps your commenting about my admitted dislike for Ken Hoop's comments, but I wish to point out, I am aware of the situation, and I do try to focus on Ken's arguement. In any case I did respond directly to Osamabinabitcrazy's comment in this case. I made a point about how leadership of the military works in America. It was not just a personal attack.
 
I guess I'm not sure what you meant by that, so if you would do me a favor, and expand on your previous comment, I'd appreciate it.
 
Thanks.
 
USA, all the way!

15 OOps! bad format.                    USA, all the way!

16 shoogie woogie.         Lets just say that if Osamabinhating had merely commented "I hate that f*cking asshole Dick Cheney!"  I wouldn't have had the 'chicken hawk' thingy to remark about. His personal dislike for Cheney is all fair. His use of the term is something I singled out as an unhelpful, non-relevancy. If he wants to say he doesn't like someone, fine. If he wants to call someone a coward, fine. If he wants to slander those voters who never wore the uniform, or are currently not serving, just because they are in favor of victoery, then I will call him on it. What I actually suggested was he simply not use that term. I hoope this helps.           
          
          
         USA, all the way!

17 Osamabintrolling:


Do you have any statement to make that isn't approved by the DNC?



Oh, that's right. You aren't a leftist. You're a conservative who just happens to regurgitate the left's dogma at every opportunity.


Sign your alias as tard-boy.

18 Buttholz:

You try and try again. I give you a B+ for effort, but you're still failing in reality. The DNC are almost as full of shit as you are.

19 Osamabintrolling:


You cant deny your trollhood, so you don't even try. Big surprise.


You get an F- for efort and execution. Back to the special needs class, short bus.

20 "You cant deny your trollhood, so you don't even try. Big surprise."

This, coming from someone who tries to flame someone on every single thread. Hahaha...

"You get an F- for efort and execution. Back to the special needs class, short bus."

It does help to be able to spell before trying to diss someone's intelligence, Buttholz. F- for "efort".

21 Osama, you are an unbelievable twit. Only a sophomoric moron uses the typo argument to denigrate someone else's intelligence. This, coming from a geek who couldn't write his own name without a spellcheck program.


Is using the chicken hawk canard supposed to be patriotic? Intelligent? Relevant in any way whatsoever?


Again, go to Iraq and support the terrorists with more than just empty rhetoric, you hypocrite. Vice President Cheney is a good man who works hard to protect this country. You're the exact opposite. You're beneath contempt.

22 OK,  Osama's first comment is the standard troll line to get the juices flowing and the suckers sucking. Seems to work on you guys.

Jeff's opinions of Osama,  "good man(Cheney) who works hard to protect this country. You're the exact opposite. You're beneath contempt."

I disagree Osama is not the exact opposite and "beneath contempt".

He's a fellow American who watched three of his friends go down one day in September. Good enough for me.



But for gods sake can you all quite calling each other bad gay. It's boring.

I dunno Bluto Osama could contribute. Will he? I dunno. Good to see Oyster too. It could get better.......but I'm going to start dumping all the s8ck myc8ck crap. Make a point do an insult. A new insult please....

23 Hey Howie... No problem. I actually just told Michael I'd try simply ignoring Jeff or Rooster unless they address me in a civil manner. I said I'd try it for a week. We'll see how long that lasts! Either way, on the topic of Cheney: I honestly can't think of anything good about him, even if I search really hard. If anything I feel lied to, betrayed and angered by his words and actions. This does not make me a leftard/commie/whatever. It makes me someone who doesn't like dishonesty and incompetence. Like the dems could do any better...do you see my point? The day Osama dies a nasty death for all that he has done, I'll use another name when posting. Till then, it's simply a reminder of justice not rendered. Anyway...to better postings!

24 Howie:


Osama lost three friends on 911? Do you have any evidence of that? Do you have evidence that he's a good person? His word is worthless, so if that's all you have as evidence, don't expect me to buy it. If you know him personally, say so.


His comments here are America-last trolling. He is a fellow American in name only, not in spirit. Assuming he's both male and American. I suspect she's a woman, and I wouldn't be surprised to find out she isn't American.


Claiming "he" feels lied to by Vice President Cheney is not a constructive or honest statement. "Cheney lied, people died." It's trollish moonbattery of the worst kind. It's almost as idiotic as using the chicken hawk canard, or claiming the mission in Iraq is a distraction from hunting Bin Loser--who is probably deader than disco.


Misrepresenting your true intentions and beliefs is beneath contempt. Osama does it constantly.


You should have written your comment before I stopped "flaming" with her/him. Now I'm just dissecting her/his tired rhetoric and unprincipled behaviour. Even I got tired of the mindless insults, and I love insults more than Don Rickles does.