February 20, 2007

History Repeats Itself in the MSM

Its well past time to resurrect the NYT from 1945, to see how it was reporting and opining (same thing) on the US victory back then:

"Loss of Victory in Germany Through U.S. Policy Feared," November 18, 1945

Grave concern was expressed today by informed officials that the United States might soon lose the fruits of victory in Germany through the failure to prepare adequately for carrying out its long-term commitments under the Potsdam Declaration. Government failures were attributed in part to public apathy. The predictions of a coming crisis are predicated upon three points:

1) The failure to start training a civilian corps of administrators to take over when the Army's Military Government pulls out of Germany by June 1.

2) The failure of the Government to set up an expert advisory group, such as that which existed in the Foreign Economic Administration's Enemy Branch to back up the American administrators of Germany with informed advice and provide a focal point in Washington for policy-making on the German question.

3) The failure of the Allies to decide together, or the United States for itself, the crucial economic question raised by the Potsdam Declaration; namely what level of German economic activity is desired over the long term?

Bzzzt. Wrong.

Days ago in 2007, from the lofty perches of the Ivory Tower in their air-conditioned offices playing armchair quaterback from half-a-world away:

President Bush lost touch long ago with Iraq’s political reality — not to mention Americans’ anguish and disbelief at his mismanagement of the war. So we welcome the House of Representatives’ long-overdue attempt to shake some sense into Mr. Bush with a resolution opposing his decision to send another 20,000 combat troops to fight this disastrous war without any plan to end it.

Yet yesterday’s vote, in which 17 Republicans joined the Democrats to produce a margin of 246 to 182, was the easy part. It takes no great courage or creativity for a politician to express continuing support for the troops and opposition to a vastly unpopular and unpromising military escalation. Even if the Senate manages to overcome its procedural self-hobbling and approve a similar resolution, the war and the mismanagement will go on.

The next necessary steps will require harder thinking and harder choices. Congress needs to do what Mr. Bush is refusing to do: link further financing for the war to the performance of Iraq’s Shiite-led government, which is making no serious effort to rescue its country from civil war.

NYT plays Democrat advisor. They sure were on point in 1945, weren't they?

Posted by: Good Lt. at 11:59 PM | Comments (17) | Add Comment
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1 Democrats and other America haters just don't understand that Bush has a plan. It's new, it's a novelty, it's strange in the liberal mind. It's called winning.

Posted by: greyrooster at February 21, 2007 05:16 AM (asayR)

2 AU sending UN troops to help stabilize Somalia. Muslims say they will fight them. Says it all. Muslims are just not happy unless they are fighting someone. Started the first day their so called religion was founded and hasn't quit since. Time to OUTLAW ISLAM. Which would make everyone happy except osamabinhidinghismuslimlover. Friggin leftard.

Posted by: greyrooster at February 21, 2007 07:45 AM (smCdV)

3 Bias?  What bias?

Posted by: Oyster at February 21, 2007 11:31 AM (FFmKq)

4 "Democrats and other America haters just don't understand that Bush has a plan. It's new, it's a novelty, it's strange in the liberal mind. It's called winning."

If you call "winning" failing miserably at everything he fucking does. Gayrooster, you are a lunatic and a fool.

"Which would make everyone happy except osamabinhidinghismuslimlover. Friggin leftard."

Gayroosterbeenhidingdiddlingapig: Your pathetic attempts to reconcile your fantasies with reality are coming to an end. You can't go on forever being wrong about everything. Please shut up and die. I've got a great bottle of champagne waiting to be uncorked and you're holding shit up.

Posted by: osamabinhiding at February 21, 2007 02:43 PM (ZxuJ4)

5 Why doesn't anyone here ever pull observations from the Korean War in their efforts to compare/contrast /legitamize Iraq? Because making WII parallels is always more dramatic and flattering. The fact they are greatly less accurate doesn't seem to concern anyone.

Posted by: Gleep! at February 21, 2007 02:48 PM (Zlbra)

6 I wouldn't say that gleep. The comparrison between the korean confict and iraq is a good one. It wasn't until Eisenhower drew the line and told moa that if he crossed it, they would nuke them. They had 2 atmoic tipped artillary pieces and the field comand had the go ahead to use them if they were going to be overrun by the chinese again. It worked. The 8th Army had a policy of flattening a village if they harbored any slackie boys. The General got tired of writing letters to mothers back home. The system worked and the armistice has held. The lesson is that you can't leave an evil person in charge, we made that mistake there and in iraq the first time. Perhaps the biggest lesson is that we shouldn't start something that we don't want to see through to the end because doing it half way( Pay attention murtha you miserable fucking nancy boy puke cocksucking mother fucking son of a fuckless bitch) ahem.. is allot worse for allot more for allot longer. It won't be until the persians and the arabs see that they can't intimidate their way and the mullas all start getting wacked that magically ( that's a persian word by the way, 3 wise men you know.....) things  will change. One thing is certain, no one in the armed forces will ever vote democrat again for a very long  long long  time.

Posted by: wb at February 21, 2007 07:07 PM (PqCqd)

7 Greyrooster been diddleing a pig? Once again osamabinhidingthethinginhisass brings his mother into the conversation.

Posted by: greyrooster at February 21, 2007 07:14 PM (MMhDt)

8 The situation in Iraq is dire. His plan has about the same chance as my plan to win the lottery.

Posted by: JOHN RYAN at February 21, 2007 10:42 PM (TcoRJ)

9 Good Lt:


Very interesting juxtaposition. It certainly struck a nerve with the moonbats and resident mullahtroll John Lyin.


The left has been claiming that the mission in Iraq is a failure for close to four years now. The fact that it still hasn't failed doesn't seem to faze them.


The Stalin-Lite left have been wrong about every conflict America has been involved in since WWII. There's no reason to believe they're right this time. The right is right, the left is wrong. Same old, same old.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 21, 2007 11:18 PM (Dt3sl)

10 Yomamabinwhoring:


The terrorists still haven't achieved a single one of their stated goals in Iraq--and they've been trying for close to four years now.


The Coalition has been achieving its goals one after the other. All that's left is to turn things over to the Iraqis.


Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 21, 2007 11:24 PM (Dt3sl)

11 The only reason I can think of why the lefturds rag on Bush so hard is
that he is just an effigy of a conservative that they can burn every
day while he allows the bolshevik agenda to go forward under the cover
of "loyal opposition". Bush is a traitor and deserves the rope along
with all of congress.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 22, 2007 09:10 AM (eGb9y)

12 Buttholz:

"The terrorists still haven't achieved a single one of their stated goals in Iraq--and they've been trying for close to four years now."

Oh yeah, why do you think I use the name Osamabinhiding? It's to remind dumb fucks like you that we haven't won shit. Give me Osama's head on a platter before you starting trying to make yourself feel better about Chimpy's stupid shit again.

"The Coalition has been achieving its goals one after the other. All that's left is to turn things over to the Iraqis."

Oh yeah, that's why we are sending more troops?

"Do you ever get tired of being wrong?"

Actually, I get tired of always proving you wrong.

Posted by: osamabinhiding at February 22, 2007 02:41 PM (ZxuJ4)

13 Maximus, I couldn't agree with you more.

Posted by: osamabinhiding at February 22, 2007 02:42 PM (ZxuJ4)

14 Osamabinsodomized:


Osama bin loser is dead and irrelevant since President Bush spanked the Taliban for all the world to see. Worldwide terrorism hasn't had a thing to do with him since then.


Sorry, dumb-fuck.



Why do you pretend that Al Qaeda and bin Loser are the only threats?  Bin Loser washed out years ago. Al Qaeda is only one of hundreds of terrorist groups that have attacked America. Al Qaeda is now headquartered in Iraq--it has nothing to do with pacified Afghanistan and bin loser. You don't want America to fight Al qaeda in Iraq, so stop pretending it's an issue with you.


Bitch-in-the-ass. 


Iraq was given many things by the Coalition. The overthrow and execution of the Husseins, elections, a democratic government, an improved economy and infrastructure, vibrant farms and personal enterprises, a free press and media, reliable schools, functioning hospitals and police stations, and soon, the ability to protect itself from terrorists.


I guess you don't get tired of being wrong. Sissy.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 23, 2007 02:18 AM (Dt3sl)

15 "Osama bin loser is dead and irrelevant"

Far from it. He is responsible for a lot and I want to see his head on a platter.

"Worldwide terrorism hasn't had a thing to do with him since then."

Yeah, I guess 9/11 didn't start anything.

"Al Qaeda is now headquartered in Iraq--it has nothing to do with pacified Afghanistan and bin loser."

Like I said, yeah. 9/11. Nuthin' there. Nice of Bush to set up headquarters for them in Iraq. Thanks!

"an improved economy and infrastructure"

Hahahaha. Good one. Yeah, it's pretty rosy over there.

"and soon, the ability to protect itself from terrorists."

More like, and soon the ability to self destruct, taking our troops with them.

"I guess you don't get tired of being wrong. Sissy."

I love it when you sign your posts.

Posted by: osamabinthere at February 23, 2007 04:34 AM (ZxuJ4)

16 Osamabinpunked:


Osama Bin loser is responsible for nothing but a moldering corpse, and he is your hero.


Please tell us what successful terrorist attacks he has been carrying out since 911? (Snicker!)


911 happened 6 years ago. Where are the mighty bin Loser attacks since then? Chirp, chirp, chirp. He was irrelevant up to the day he died from his physical weakness. Just like you.


President bush is not responsible for the acts of al Qaeda terrorists. According to your mewling, shit-licking argument, America is responsible for 911. Try again.


Iraq is better off than it ever was under hussein.


Four years and counting, but still no Iraqi implosion or American defeat.


I guess you don't get tired of being wrong. Sissy.


How does it feel to get your ass kicked every time you post an inane comment? How many times will you be proven an anti-American liar before you slink off and hide?


Flushing my toilet takes more effort than punking you. It doesn't get rid of as much shit, though.



Ha, ha HA! You are one stupid little bitch.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 23, 2007 09:49 PM (Dt3sl)

17 Jeffbinbuttholz:

"Osama Bin loser is responsible for nothing but a moldering corpse, and he is your hero."

Do you try at all to come up with anything true? Or maybe even funny? *canned laughter*

"Please tell us what successful terrorist attacks he has been carrying out since 911? (Snicker!)"

Oh, snicker snicker chuckle chuckle. He got away with it, stupid. But a little pansy like you prefers to hide in a corn field rather than get justice.

"911 happened 6 years ago. Where are the mighty bin Loser attacks since then? Chirp, chirp, chirp. He was irrelevant up to the day he died from his physical weakness. Just like you."

MMMMhmmm. Have any proof? I didn't think so. Your wing-nutty fantasies don't apply, fuck-wit.

"President bush is not responsible for the acts of al Qaeda terrorists. According to your mewling, shit-licking argument, America is responsible for 911. Try again."

You are so completely full of shit. I have NEVER said 9/11 was America's fault. Are you completely insane? I have also never said Bush was responsible. You're getting so desperate that you're actually plucking weak theories out of your little dim bulb. Try again indeed!

"Iraq is better off than it ever was under hussein."

Tell that to everyone over there who has lost family members since the war started.

"Four years and counting, but still no Iraqi implosion or American defeat."

I guess you get someone to type this stuff for you, since you obviously don't reads any papers. Faux News doesn't count.

"I guess you don't get tired of being wrong. Sissy."

As I've said before, I only get tired of you being wrong.

"How does it feel to get your ass kicked every time you post an inane comment?"

Another thing you say in the mirror?

"How many times will you be proven an anti-American liar before you slink off and hide?"

Yet another Jeff in front of the mirror statement....

"Flushing my toilet takes more effort than punking you. It doesn't get rid of as much shit, though."

I guess that means you've never flushed your toilet. Stinky white trash.

"Ha, ha HA! You are one stupid little bitch."

I love it when you end your posts with a self congratulatory, masturbatory statement like that. It only proves how insecure you are. The truth hurts, buttholz. We can feel your pain!

Posted by: osamabinhiding at February 23, 2007 11:50 PM (JVqe0)

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