1 I was kind of hoping the larger version, but it took me to your site instead.

Must be a mistake.

2 Graphics at Jawa are limited to 350 pixels width. Go to the post at my site and click on the image for the larger version. Do it now or I'll tell Dieter that you have a crush on him.

3 A gorgeous 55 Fdeg here in New York City today. First time the city had no snow fall in December in over 100 years.
The first time I have been able to keep my riding my motorcycle without heavy clothes this late in the year.
On the downside winter camping in the Adirondaks just isn't the same without snowcover.

4 Oh my, of course we have to base any discussion of Global Warming on local conditions for one day at John Ryan's house. What a complete idiot.

5 Dont worry I am sure in another 30 years it will be back to global cooling.
 
 
(Newsweek Oct, 1977)

6 I'm not surprised. All my moonbat friends can't talk about anything else. Typical dialog:

Moonbat Friend #1: Nice day today.
Moonbat Friend #2: An inconvenient truth, man.
MF#1: Yeah.

Of course, the record snowfalls in Denver? That's global warming, too.

7 Yes, the little ice age is definitely an inconvenient truth for the environs out there

8

Golly whillickers, and here I been splittin all this here wood, and getting up at night to stoke the woodstove, and shovelling the dodge out of the snow and stuff, when I didn't need to ...

I guess a can go outside and run around naked cause the subfreezing temperatures are surely a sign of the firey doom of our world! Oh my goodness me!

I'm a member of 'Montanan's for Global Warming"

USA, all the way!

9 As usial USA DECAY chooses to do the CHICKEN LITTLE roteen and lie about the who thing just like any leftists rag has done and as usial his little wuusieness AL GORE is running around in his private jet burning up all that fuel and putting all that CO2 in the air what a load of poppycock BS nonsnense

10 bluto: you might want to trade that motorcycle for a canoe sometime soon. as for anyone slagging "inconvenient truth": your "little ice age" theory is debunked with hard data in there. oh yeah, none of you ever saw it because you're too stubborn to challenge your wing-nut views. what makes me wonder is, when there are mountains of evidence against everything you guys are spouting in here, does this make you insane? or maybe you're just a victim of this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070103/ap_on_bi_ge/exxonmobil_global_warming

11 John Ryan an Idiot? Gee, whatever gave you that idea?

12 "osamabinthere".
 
"Mann's conclusion is the cornerstone of the scientific case supporting Kyoto. However, Mann is incorrect.

Mann eliminated from the climate record both the Medieval Warm Period, a period from about 900 to 1500 AD when global temperatures were generally warmer than today, and also the Little Ice Age from about 1500 to 1800 AD, when temperatures were colder. Mann's conclusion contradicted hundreds of previous studies on this subject, but was adopted without question by Kyoto advocates.

In 2003, Willie Soon and Sallie Baliunas of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics and co-authors wrote a review of over 250 research papers that concluded that the Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age were true climatic anomalies with world-wide imprints - contradicting Mann's hockey stick and undermining the basis of Kyoto. Soon et al were then attacked in EOS, the journal of the American Geophysical Union.

Also in 2003, University of Ottawa geology professor Jan Veizer and Israeli astrophysicist Nir Shaviv concluded that temperatures over the past 500 million years correlate with changes in cosmic ray intensity as Earth moves in and out of the spiral arms of the Milky Way. The geologic record showed no correlation between atmospheric CO2 concentrations and temperatures, even though prehistoric CO2 levels were often many times today's levels. Veizer and Shaviv also received "special attention" from EOS.

In both cases, the attacks were unprofessional - first, these critiques should have been launched in the journals that published the original papers, not in EOS. Also, the victims of these attacks were not given advanced notice, nor were they were given the opportunity to respond in the same issue. In both cases the victims had to wait months for their rebuttals to be published, while the specious attacks were circulated by the pro-Kyoto camp.

Scientists opposed to Kyoto have now been vindicated. As a result of a Material Complaint filed by Ross McKitrick of the University of Guelph and Steven McIntyre, Nature issued a Corrigendum in July 2004, a correction of Mann's hockey stick. It acknowledged extensive errors in the description of the Mann data set, and conceded that key steps in the computations were left out and conflicted with the descriptions in the original paper.

Hans von Storch et al further criticized Mann's work in the September 30, 2004 issue of Science Express. Von Storch commented in a Der Spiegel interview: "We were able to show in a publication in Science that this [hockey stick] graph contains assumptions that are not permissible. Methodologically it is wrong: Rubbish." Researchers from the University of East Anglia and the University of Utah have expressed similar concerns. "
 
 
 
Tell us again about your inconvenient truths "osamabinthere". I can find plenty of intelligent sources that refute Al 'BuggaBoo' Gore, and that have nothing to do with exxon. Using bad science for political gain is not just selfish, its criminal. Jet-setter Gore must know better, and that doesn't just make him a lier, it makes him a traitor. Weakening the US economy would serve one purpose above all others, and that would be to humble the nation. Who does he need to humble the USA for, if not her enemies?
 
 
 
 
Global warming, and cooling are both natural processes, as millions of years of high atmospereic CO2, prior to human existance, clearly show.  And you know what? Life didn't die out, did it? The world wasn't drowned, and it didn't turn into a cinder! Also clearly proven is that human CO2 will matter very little. Find a new hysteria to push, cause this one is getting 'cold'.
 
 
 
USA, all the way!

13 The most inconvenient truth for libs is that Gore is a desperate washed out hasbeen sidekick to an adulterer in cheif. He so wants to matter, and be important that he will attach himself to an embarassingly stupid concept, and hope he can be a big man again. Make no mistake, he is selling out, for his own gain.  Hey! Did Gore git rid of his interest in that oil company that was invading indians sacred burial grounds, or is he still doing that?
 
 
 
USA, all the way!

14 Michael, please supply me the names of any "credible" scientists or "intelligent sources" who aren't directly or indirectly paid by big oil. Give me the names and I'll do some research of my own on them. I have not heard of a single one that isn't paid off. Also: Oil is not the future and you'd have to be off your rocker to refute that. If we don't have another way to supply power in the next 50 or so years, we'll be thrust right back into the dark ages. Harnessing the immense power of sunlight, wind and water is not a far fetched idea. The only reason is hasn't happened sooner? Well, just look who has been in charge...and I'm not even including Bush in this. Energy sources are always evolving, usually resulting in a economic boom. People like Gore and the countless scientists who echo the same data aren't out to do anything negative...if anything, they are trying to help humanity avoid drastic consequences. It's not like the guy is running for anything. USA ALL THE WAY! p.s. Ever wonder why the USA is the only big country that has abandoned Kyoto? Hmmmm. I wonder why. Also, have you seen Gore's film? If so, please tell me which points you'd like to disprove and supply links to the evidence.

15 I thought the world already decided that Al Gore is an asshole. Dead issue.

16 I guess I'll fight aginst global warming hysteria somewhere else, since its so dead here.
 
 
USA, all the way!

17 Michael, being that that I am quite busy lately, I apologize in advance if I don't respond to your latest posting right away. I will read up on all those links though and get back to you. Till then!

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osamabinthere: I get busy as well, so I'm not cranky. This thread may be long gone by the time either of us get back, but I'm sure we will meet again soon. I'm around here as much as I can get away with. My main point with Gore, is that if I have to not use people who are getting Oil money, then we should leave out Al Gore, and any other scientist who owes anything to the oil industry. My second point, but also important, is the socialist connection to the Global Warming dogma, and how that weakens the USA vs China, and others. Catchya around in any case.

 

 

USA, all the way!