February 15, 2007

"Law-Abiding Citizens Have No Right To Own Guns"

Misha takes down a severely flawed 'argument' for taking away the guns of the law-abiding citizenry. This leftwing brainfart comes from the "Institute for Social Policy and Understanding" (translation - fascists who want to reduce your freedom because you have too much of it).

The idea of public gun ownership simply does not make sense anymore. The right to bear arms, as enumerated in the Second Amendment, was meant for the maintenance of a “well-regulated militia.” At the time the amendment was adopted, standing armies were viewed with a great deal of suspicion, and therefore, gun-owning individuals were seen as a protection mechanism for the public. These gun owners were also seen as guardians of the republic against the tyranny of the rulers. The framers of the Constitution saw the right to bear and use arms as a check against an unruly government. That state of affairs no longer exists.

That is some of the most tired, played-out bullsh*t that I've ever heard.

Its mommy syndrome gone wild. You've done nothing wrong, but Johnny Jihad shot some people, so nobody gets to have guns. Not even you people who have not and will not do anything illegal with them. Protecting your families and businesses when the police can't immediately respond doesn't count as "legal" or "practical use" of guns.

Taking this 'logic' to its conclusion, we should then ban all cars, because there is a subset of the population who are subretards and kill people while inebriated despite the laws against being intoxicated while operating a motor vehicle.

Newsflash: Just because something is illegal doesn't mean people aren't going to do it. Drugs. Illegal gun ownership. Underage drinking. Sudden jihad syndrome. Assault. You name it.

Antecdote: There was a jewelry store robbery yesterday in South Philly. Three trogladites in masks tried to hold up the small store with oozies and handguns. One of the store employees who was out for lunch came back to the store while the robbery was in progress. Startled by the employee, the robbers were temporarily distracted. That's when the store owner (an Israeli army vet) pulled a gun from below the counter and shot two of the three robbers. They tried to get away, but were abandoned by their getaway driver and the injured criminals were forced to flag down police to get medical aid. Two of the three robbers are in custody, and the third is being sought.

According to the ISPU, that store owner was not within his constitutional rights, and should have surrendered his merchandise to the trolls in Haloween masks without a fuss. The fact that he had a gun was just too risky to the robbers (and presumably to the entire American populace.) The era of "unruly government" is gone. What he fails to ennunciate in his jihad against law-abiding gun-owners is that that unruly government has been replace with unruly street thugs, gangs, psychopaths, robbers, etc. Government isn't the only threat to a person's well being, you know.

These leftwingnut impulses are going to end up killing you and your fellow citizens because somebody might be offended. This kind of nanny-state crap needs to be squished and resisted at every turn.

Posted by: Good Lt. at 10:17 AM | Comments (15) | Add Comment
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1 Let the leftards stew.  I intend to keep my gun because as long as we (conservatives) own guns, leftwingnuts like him can't have their long-promised "revolution."  They can TALK about it, but we own guns.  LOL.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at February 15, 2007 11:34 AM (8e/V4)

2 It is no accident that the same people who state there is no longer any chance of a corrupt goverment are the the same ones who seek to disarm us. The potential for corruption and abuse has never been greater. The ONLY thing that keeps that from happening is an armed America. If you think anything else, you're a fucking idiot

Posted by: LeRoy at February 15, 2007 11:39 AM (SxnQ6)

3 Does the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding realize its acronym is pronounced "I spew"...?

Posted by: McGehee at February 15, 2007 12:09 PM (lAOTn)

4 Huh? So because the 2nd amendment appears to be "outdated" we should just scrap it? Heck... why not just chuck the whole Bill or Rights. After all, it was written by old white dudes in the 18th century so it must not be valid anymore, right? Whatever. I tend to take idiotic comments from anti-gun nuts with a grain of smokeless powder...

Posted by: Rick at February 15, 2007 01:26 PM (9ZqGe)

5 Volkh had another thread on guns recently, regarding the link between gun control and fascism.
http://www.volokh.com/posts/1170778634.shtml

It devolved into the standard "the gov't has really big guns, so the notion of private gun ownership acting as a hedge against an unruly gov't is no longer valid, and thus the 2nd Amendment is moot."

I noted to 1992 LA riots, where the police refused to come to the aid of Korean shopkeepers, who had to take up arms to defend themselves.  As I said there,
THAT
is why I want to be armed. Not because I think Nancy Pelosi
is going to send some brown-shirts (or whatever color shirts they may
have in SF) after me, but rather that Pelosi will be more than willing
to sacrifice my family's safety so as not to offend the sensibilities
of some other rioting minority group.



Posted by: wooga at February 15, 2007 01:29 PM (t9sT5)

6 If you go to their website and click on the "Scholars" link, it will list these "brilliant" thinkers. Note their names. Probably thinking,
"It will be so much easier to subjugate unarmed kuffar than an armed resistance."

Posted by: catseye at February 15, 2007 03:37 PM (X+AwP)

7 Leftwing troll at #6.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at February 15, 2007 04:27 PM (8e/V4)

8 On it.

Die, troll!


There we go.

Posted by: Good Lt at February 15, 2007 04:38 PM (D0TMh)

9 heres some moron too stupid to know what two and two add up to making some stupid rediclous study and i,ll bet this crap will be tuaght in the schools instead of sending this jerk to the detention room for being a jerk

Posted by: sandpiper at February 15, 2007 04:41 PM (XnXsx)

10 If the leftards want to offer themselves as victims, let them, then if the shit hits the fan they won't be in the way anymore. There is nothing in the 2nd amendment about an expiration date, nor in any of the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights. Thank you, but I'd rather defend mine and myself than wait for assistance that may never come.

Posted by: Edward Lunny at February 15, 2007 04:52 PM (QkaPP)

11 You can have my guns.....bullets first.

Posted by: Frantic Freddie at February 15, 2007 07:58 PM (UH0jU)

12

"Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with the view of confiscating them and leaving the population defenseless."


"A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie."


“One man with a gun can control 100 without one. ”


"Only an armed people can be the real bulwark of popular liberty."
 
--Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
 
 

"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future." --Adolf Hitler, 1935


Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 15, 2007 09:56 PM (Dt3sl)

13 The guy who wrote that article isn't just a lefty, he's a "moderate" Muslim who supports conspiracy theories about the government, Jews, etc.
He's also a Lawyer if memory serves, I blogged about this gut a couple of months ago. Google his name and you'll see his writings which should convince you that his motive for banning Guns isn't the usually lefty crap, but more of a desire to turn our cities into Paris suburb style "sensitive zones".

Posted by: Rob Taylor at February 15, 2007 11:40 PM (zPX84)

14 Either we kill all the lefturds, or they will enslave us, but there is no in between.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 17, 2007 01:45 PM (eGb9y)

15

So, what evidence does the author provide that citizens no longer need protection from their own government? Wouldn't the Government taking our rights away be one of the symptoms of a "bad" government? Or, more simply- Trying to take our guns away is evidence of the need to keep them.


 


Posted by: highlander at February 20, 2007 12:39 AM (uAPGI)

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