July 15, 2006

Larry Johnson : Israel Engaged in "Self-Immolation"

Larry C. Johnson, a former CIA agent, New York Times columnist and current MSM "go to" expert on all things intelligence-related, shared these gems of wisdom today about Israel's invasion of Lebanon:

Apparently not content to let the U.S. do a self-immolation act in the Middle East by itself, Israel decided to set itself on fire by invading Lebanon. Burn baby burn? Like George Bush, Israel's Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, never served in a combat unit and launched military operations without thinking the matter through. In fact, Olmert reportedly never even served in the military. . .

Killing "terrorists" has a place in policy but it is not a strategic military obective. It is a tactical objective and may serve political purposes, but achieves little in terms of securing Israel. Israel is attacking targets in Lebanon like a drunken sailor in a bar fight. Flailing about, causing significant damage, hitting innocent bystanders, and generally making a mess of things. . . .

What about Hamas and Hezbollah?

They are not terrorists. They carry out terrorist attacks, but they are not terrorists. . . .

As LGF points out, Johnson is either ignorant of or lying about Olmert's military service. Olmert served in a combat unit and incurred substantial injuries in the process. (Apparently more severe than John Kerry's.)

As to the second point, only time will tell whether the IDF went into Lebanon with a plan for success against Hib'Allah or merely went in to "flail about" like a "drunken sailor". My guess is that the Israelis went in with a detailed, thoroughly thought out plan, and that the plan will be carried out with all the efficiency and effectiveness we've come to expect from the IDF. Whether this operation achieves Israel's long-term strategic objectives, only time will tell.

As for how one can "engage in terrorist attacks" and yet not be a "terrorist", that logic completely escapes me. Perhaps someone could explain that to me.

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1 This is who the MSM picks as "experts"? I stopped reading when I got to the part about Olmert being a a chickenhawk.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at July 15, 2006 08:11 PM (8e/V4)

2 If you can find the MSNBC transcript, the Senior Middle East correspondent 'Martin P____something" was doing a phone interview today around 1:00 regarding Israel's response and the question came up from the hostbabe whether Israel's hitting of a lighthouse was accidental.

He said {paraphrased} "Oh no, Israel's had this response operation planned for five years"

At which point the news babe did a visible double-take and said "five years?"

He then laid out how Hizzbolah had been moving into the area once Israel left, how Lebannon failed to move troops in, and that Hizzbolah had 10-13,000 rockets in place with 100 or so longer range ones, so Israel's known for a long time that this fight was coming.

He concluded with {paraphrased}'every target being hit is for a precise reason according to the operational plan developed over five years - this isn't tit-for-tat retaliation based on what the rockets fired into Israel hit.'

Which, you know, makes more sense than what Larry's saying.

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Posted by: BumperStickerist at July 15, 2006 08:11 PM (PcDvW)

3 You cannot explain the irrational......don't try, just understand that it is insanity and deal with it that way.

The savages will cause their own destruction, I can feel it coming..... Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Norkland, all smoldering in their futility and our cordite.

Posted by: n.a. palm at July 15, 2006 08:12 PM (qeCWh)

4 The fact that Johnson is the "go to guy" for the NYT tells me all I need to know about him.

Posted by: jesusland joe at July 15, 2006 08:20 PM (rUyw4)

5 This Larry Johnson character and his fellow defeatists can go CONSUMATE themselves (so to speak), as far as I am concerned.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at July 15, 2006 08:33 PM (Bp6wV)

6 Seems to me that Hezbollah is fighting straight up. Nothing they have done I can call terrorism. They attacked Israel and that is their purpose. Is there any other? They are dedicated to destroying Israel because in their minds they were displaced and want their homeland back.
Also according to Howie, the bible says pick on the Jews. Ha, ha.
They will lose. But fighting Israel is the meaning of their existence. Why is that terrorism? They are fighting with the same weapons that everyone else uses.
The Jews made a bad mistake letting them grow to what they are. Should have nipped them in the bud years ago. Unless that is what Israel wanted all along.
Is this an excuse to hand Syria its hat? To me it is. Syria shouldn't even have a infastucture after this. Give them the big message now. In fact, perhaps, we should send the Marines into Syria. Thats what we are good at. No police work. I don't think the mad moolas in Iran will do anything. Common sense will tell them they fought Iraq for years and couldn't win. We whipped them in 3 days.
Just my opinion. I'm sure all-seeing-eyeidot has another.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 15, 2006 08:53 PM (kylJG)

7 It's a wonder Larry Johnson doesn't choke on his own bile,when you hate as much as he does breathing is visably harder.What makes a man a traitor-just asken

Posted by: jainphx at July 15, 2006 09:16 PM (zA7tg)

8 "Seems to me that Hezbollah is fighting straight up."

From a Lebanese blogger:

"Did you ever see on TV all these Hezbollah units that parade in Beirut’s Southern suburb on Ashura and make the fascist salute to Nasrallah? You know, those who wear great dyanamite belts and have cardboard RPGs? Well it seems that God occulted all these mighty fighters overnight. They just vanished. Nobody knows where they are."

Posted by: Chad Evans at July 15, 2006 09:38 PM (+0rMT)

9 This isn't even close to being over. Israel will go into Syria. Iran will go into Iraq. The US will be fighting for their lives (and will distribute a very serious and fatal case of whipass those goat rapers will ever know) before they get past al-sadr's militia. The Norks will lett their next volley fly but this time it will be Okinawa, Guam, and Atsugi. My advice to South Korea is, get your shelters ready. If you are at Osan then be prepared to defend your ground. Islam is the whore of Babylon. al_Qaeda is the beast with all the heads. revelation is upon us. Madmandinajob is the antichrist and the 12th imam is satan. George Bush worships Mr peanut who is the the god Goober!

Posted by: Cmunk at July 15, 2006 09:50 PM (n4VvM)

10 I'm glad Olmert is not talking about giving up more land, he was talking about giving up the West Bank, which made him seem like a little bit of a limpwrist -- now he has to create miliary operations inside land Israel already gave up according to the peace roadmap I'm hoping he'll reconsider all this "giving up land" nonsense.

They could give them back the West Bank tomorrow, there will not be peace, the Arabs have made their goal clear: Palestine from the river to the sea, total destruction of Israel. It's time to reconsider if the "roadmap" is worth it.

Posted by: davec at July 15, 2006 10:05 PM (voZp6)

11 Nothing will happen to Iran militarily. Too many sissies in the system. Iran has to attack first. It will not do it. They haven't the balls.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 15, 2006 10:43 PM (kylJG)

12 We've come a long way: Now the leftist precondition to recognizing legitimate input on matters of war is 'did he/she serve'?

On that basis, they are FUCKED.

What they at one time despise, so they soon become.

That's what I love about liberals.

Posted by: Martin at July 15, 2006 10:45 PM (7T22U)

13 There are just so many people who need to have their plows cleaned.

Posted by: Hucbald at July 16, 2006 12:30 AM (H2sPy)

14 davec: Absofuckeenlutely right!

greyrooster: Ditto!

Posted by: forest hunter at July 16, 2006 03:47 AM (TjUVb)

15 davec: Absofuckeenlutely right!

greyrooster: Ditto!

Posted by: forest hunter at July 16, 2006 03:48 AM (TjUVb)

16 Sorry bout that folks! (Impatient basturd at the controls pounds own head into keyboard) Double whammies are OT, Huh.

Posted by: forest hunter at July 16, 2006 03:51 AM (TjUVb)

17 Looks like Larry has gone from dishing state secrets in private to getting the Duranty Stamp of Approval. Right up there with Joao the Courageous Photographer just Hangin with My Mahdi Army Buds.

Posted by: Jauhara at July 16, 2006 06:48 AM (Z8kfp)

18 The CIA was long ago infiltrated by liberals, moles, and traitors, thanks to Peanut Jim, and has become an operative wing of the democratic party. The CIA needs to get rid of all the traitors within its ranks and start fresh.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 16, 2006 09:42 AM (v3I+x)

19 Apparently Olmert does have military experience and suffered severe wounds in combat. It's all at LGF.

So much for the MSM experts.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at July 16, 2006 11:34 AM (8e/V4)

20 Hmmm, my brother is a sailor, and a drunk, never seen him get his assed whipped. So maybe druken sailors come out all right you reacon?

Posted by: Bullshark at July 16, 2006 10:24 PM (sUcqb)

21 davec, Israel gave up that land to sucker the Moslems into doing exactly what they did, and to allow Israel to do some serious butt kicking on land they had excellent maps of, and without a bunch of their own getting caught in the crossfire, or being taken hostage.

The settlers resisted abandoning their homes and farms on previous occasions. No such squawk this time. I thought they were oddly silent.

Internationally? The Palestinians had a homeland, and only had to organize themselves. They did not. (So, what would they do if they actually destroyed Israel? Make their own country? Not by what we have seen so far, they have proven themselves a pack of pathetic losers.) The US is closing in on the money flow so the Saudis cannot slip them some extra dollars without risk of exposure. Syria knows they could end up with an involuntary regime change if they get too obvious, and that the days of plausible deniability of a bunch of "volunteers on leave" turning the tide of battle are long gone as they would now have to bring expensive and high tech weapons with them. Traceable weapons.

Syria is despicable, but not insane. Iran is run by nut cases, but they do not border on the scene of action, so their support is limited.

This was a beautiful trap that could only work on the nutcases in Palestine. Suckered good and proper.

Posted by: Phillep at July 17, 2006 09:21 AM (Jeoud)

22 GR -

Besides capturing the soldiers & shooting the warship, pretty much everything notable Hezbollah has done in the past 25 years qualifies as "terrorism" in my book. Most recently, raining 1,000 missiles down on cities & towns just to scare civilians is textbook "terrorism".

Hizb'Allah is definitely a "terrorist" group. ALways has been, likely always will be.

Posted by: The All Seeing Eye at July 17, 2006 10:25 AM (2rYHy)

23 When at war, capturing soldiers and shooting warships are what you are supposed to do. Shooting missles on cities and towns is what all enemy combatants do. What the hell do you think war is? Making stupid attacks on the internet?
Grow up and get real.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 18, 2006 12:52 PM (xVlDU)

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