November 10, 2006
That's what I argue in my latest Townhall column:
Jon Stewart is an unlikely player in national politics. He's not a pundit, he's a comedian. As unlikely a candidate for Democratic kingmaker as he may be, he's a force to be reckoned with.Read the whole thing, or I'll take away your Swingline.Ratings for The Daily Show's coverage of the '06 elections were second only to The O'Reilly Factor on Fox News. 2.0 million Americans tuned into Comedy Central on Tuesday to follow election results. That's right, more people were watching a comedian talk about the news than an anchor on CNN.
And just who is it that is tuning into The Daily Show? Young people. Lot's of them.
In fact, in the 2004 election nearly as many young people cited The Daily Show as a source of news as any other source. And Jon Stewart's Daily Show audience has only grown since then.
On the college campus where I teach, Jon Stewart's is the first and last word on all things political. His is the only name that all recognize. It’s more than that: his views are the only views considered socially acceptable. When Jon Stewart believes something, students believe it. He who Jon Stewart hates, students hate.
UPDATE: Since I know some of you didn't click on the link to see the statistical basis for the argument (lazy...) here it some of it:
The 2006 election saw the youth vote at its largest in 20 years. While younger Americans continue to vote in smaller numbers than older Americans, 2 million more voted in this election than in that last midterm.The list, of course, goes on, but I can't cite every case. Anyway, do me a favor and just read the whole thing.And that vote is becoming more Democratic. According to the bipartisan Goeas-Lake exit polls, Democrats bested Republicans among 18 - 29 year olds by a 50 - 35 percent margin.
In nationally pivotal races, it was the young voter who put Democratic candidates over the top. Exit polls indicate that in Pennsylvania 68% of those under 30 voted for the Democrat over the Jon Stewart maligned Rick Santorum. Much higher than any other age group.
In the overwhelmingly Republican state of Montana, where the race was decided by less than 3,000 votes (at last count), 56% of young people voted for the Democratic challenger over the scandal tainted incumbent. The incumbent, Burns, had once argued that President Bush had a secret plan to win the war in Iraq. John Stewart joked that a vote for the challenging Democrat was a vote for blowing President Bush's super-secret plan for Iraq.
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One wonders if conservatives will ever be given the exposure and acceptance that liberals enjoy in the TV medium.
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at November 10, 2006 10:31 AM (3nKvy)
Jon is a comedian and the Democrats are a joke. PERFECT!!!
Posted by: FLLaw33870 at November 10, 2006 10:39 AM (38GUY)
The margins in the election were razor-thin, and just a very few thousand votes decided who controled the Senate. I think the factors that decided the election were:
1. Burnout and fatigue-The Republican base just didn't go out and vote. One reason was the war in Iraq, and the way the MSM covered it. You and I know that most people still get their news from the antique media, and the constant railing by the networks against the war took a toll, no doubt about that.
2. There can be little doubt that enough illegal aliens, felons, the dead, and multiple voters tipped this election to the Democrats. If, for example, you think that 8,000 illegals, felons, and other fraudulent voters didn't vote for Democrats in Virginia, then I have a bridge I would like to sell to you. That is not to say I am complaining about voter fraud, as the Republicans have been in power since 1994, and have had it within their power to stop this fraud going on all over the country, especially in cities like Philadelphia, the supposed birthplace of our nation. What a joke!
3. We have sat on our hands and watched the Left mobilize for the past two years, and what have we as conservatives done? Nothing, really. We have been outworked by the Left, and it showed on election day. We spent out money on TV, while the Left got out there and organized and worked, while we sit on our hands. We can blame this on ourselves. I'm pointing a finger at myself on this one, as I got lazy, thinking that most Americans would not want to put the fringe Left into power.
I'm know that other points have been made, such as Republicans acting like liberals with the non-stop spending and unbalanced budgets, etc. I accept these as well, but the main reason to me is that the Democrats outworked, outfoxed, outorganized, and outright won. We should accept this as a challenge, and get to work. And we are not that far from taking control back, which is why I hate to see this implosion that in now going on in the Republican Party, which is doing nothing but playing into the hands of the Democrats. We just need to close ranks, and go to work! And work! And then work some more!
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 10, 2006 10:56 AM (8PoNP)
Posted by: CafeenMan at November 10, 2006 10:59 AM (eNwl1)
In Virginia, and even more so in Missouri, election fraud occurred on a massive scale, and when organizations like ACORN are the ones involved, you can be sure they weren't cheating for Republican candidates. But again, I'm not complaining, just stating the obvious.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 10, 2006 11:24 AM (8PoNP)
Posted by: Richard H. at November 10, 2006 11:27 AM (/xUS1)
Posted by: CafeenMan at November 10, 2006 11:33 AM (eNwl1)
funny. Jon Stewart is funny. No doubt about it. But
using a left (or even right) politically leaning "comedian"
to shape or reinforce one's world views is not funny. Now if Jon
Stewart applied his humor equitably we could all share in the
laugh. There's plenty of jokes to go around.
All we've heard from the left for six years is how stupid the American
public is. Now suddenly they're not stupid? They would
blindly follow a Rush Limbaugh out of stupidity, but not a Jon Stewart?
Rusty has seen a clear distinction in the students at the college he
teaches at. That the students hang on Jon Stewart's every
word. And they do. I work with a lot of kids still in
college. I listen to them talk everyday.
Let's face it. When one is young they are far more idealistic and
the dream of everyone getting along and sharing their toys is still
possible. Then they move out into the real world and get slapped
in the face with reality and many, if not most, become more pragmatic
and realism sets in. Mommy isn't going to punish the other kid
anymore for not sharing something YOU want. Others just keep
railing against all the perceived injustices and how they've been
wronged. They grow into old lefties hell bent on defending the
virtues of socialism and an equal, indiscriminate distribution of
wealth to punish those they see as merely "lucky". Or they harbor
the horrible guilt of being economically successful and insist that
everyone else follow their definition of "moral conscience".
Here's lucky - you were born in America. THAT'S lucky. From that point on you have choices.
The left has for years now talked about the hypocrisy and stupidity of
the right. About the corruption, the scandals and the bare-faced
lies. Even though there has been plenty of it for as long as any
of us can remember from both sides of the aisle. Keeping
the other side honest with shrill cries of hypocrisy while ignoring
one's own doesn't cut it anymore. They will be held to their own
standards. Now they need to put up or shut up. This is
their chance to prove they're right. That the corruption will
end, that they won't lie to the American public and that sex scandals
and bribery are a thing of the past. Good luck. The
Internet is watching even if the MSM won't.
Posted by: Oyster at November 10, 2006 11:50 AM (YudAC)
So yeah, I'm happy the dems have gotten some control away from the GOP because the GOP is exceedingly corrupt. But no, I'm not real thrilled that so many american can swap their values just like that.
I knew the war in Iraq was very wrong from before it ever happened. I've never changed my view of it because nothing has happened that proves me wrong. In fact, my beliefs have been proven correct over and over. Anyone who did any research before the war started should have known it was wrong. There is no excuse. A lot of people are trying to claim that they were misled by Bush. Well, if his administration is the only ones they were listening to then they are very wrong from the beginning. If they had bothered to check their facts they would have known Bush was misleading them. I don't forgive them and that includes the dems who voted for the war. They have no excuse.
Anyway, things turned out well this year but not for the right reasons.
Posted by: CafeenMan at November 10, 2006 11:59 AM (eNwl1)
As an example, I live in Texas, but have been working in Arkansas for the past 8 months. In the Arkansas governor's election, the Democrat, Mike Beebe, used the border control issue quite effectively against Asa Hutchinson, who had been the Assistant Dir. of Homeland Security. In his television commercials especially, he called attention to Asa's failure to address this issue while in a position of power at Homeland Security. Frankly, he had a great point, and I feel like it hit home here in Arkansas, where illegal aliens are pouring across the borders.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 10, 2006 11:59 AM (8PoNP)
I think what would go a long way toward working is making it very undesirable to hire them in the first place. First, we stop as many as we can at the border. Then we heavily fine employers who hire them. If that doesn't work, we dig a 50 mile wide canal between the US/Mexican border and fill it with crocodiles. Put lots of cameras on buoys and make it a reality tv show. Anyone who survives the swim deserves to be an American. Anyone who uses a boat gets sunk by the coast guard. Should be very entertaining and create lots of revenue that can offset the costs of the whole program.
Posted by: CafeenMan at November 10, 2006 12:20 PM (eNwl1)
make you right. I've stuck to mine too and they are a far cry
from yours. Does that make me right or wrong? Only in the
eyes of the opposition can one be so completely wrong. Have
things turned out in Iraq as you thought they might?
Perhaps. But that in itself has nothing do do with whether or not
it was right to go in there. Some people felt misled. I
didn't. And I still don't.
Posted by: Oyster at November 10, 2006 12:23 PM (YudAC)
Posted by: Jon at November 10, 2006 12:31 PM (abs60)
Since then they have learned that we are flesh and blood and can be defeated. They didn't lay run this time. I knew that it wasn't going to be an easy fight. Does that make it wrong? No, it doesn't. Fighting Germany in WWII wasn't easy, but we were right to fight.
What made this war wrong was that every assessment by people who were in a position to know was that Saddam did not have WMD's, that he didn't have the capability to create nukes any time soon and the entire justification for the war was fabricated. That made it very, very wrong.
We were looking at a third world country that had tons of internal problems and wasn't capable of harming anyone else. Saddam had no known connections to terrorists and was, in fact, an enemy of Al Qaeda.
He had a laughable army, no navy, no air force. How in the hell was he ever going to do anything to us? Seriously. We might as well have invaded Iceland.
Anyway, my point isn't that because I've held the same beliefs all along that I'm right. I'm right because I'm right and events unfolded pretty much as I expected them to.
And I'm not one pushing for us to get out of Iraq. I don't think we should have ever been there but now that we're there I think we have some kind of duty to help clean up the mess. The problem with that is we're a big part of the problem. I think we're damned either way.
So when people say we need to cut our losses and let Iraq fend for itself it seems like the least of all the evils but I don't have any answers for how to make this disaster right. Nobody does.
Some people are ego-driven and just can't stand the thought of not winning. They're the ones who are most wrong because there is no winning. We lost when we started the war.
Then there are those who claim people who don't agree with them are terrorist appeasers. That's weak and simplistic and simply trying to intimidate people into falling into line. I'm sure there are Americans who would like to see terrorist attacks on the US. They would be called anarchists - not democrats. Democrats may be wrong in their proposed solutions to the problem, but anyone who is honest doesn't believe the democrats want the terrorists to win. 99% of Americans would love to see the terrorists exterminated. But we're not really accomplishing that are we? We need a different direction but we've botched things so badly that nobody even knows where to start.
Posted by: CafeenMan at November 10, 2006 12:36 PM (eNwl1)
Posted by: Jon at November 10, 2006 12:31 PM
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I think Jon Stewart is left-leaning but he's also got a job to do, so I don't think he will be kind to anyone doing something ridiculous - even dems.
Posted by: CafeenMan at November 10, 2006 12:38 PM (eNwl1)
But, the fact that the "Swing" voter can be influenced by something that happens in a "Rumor" or "Scandal form" this afternoon, and will affect his vote on long term government issues, points to a far worse problem . . apparently, the "Swing" Voter is an Idiot!
How do you fix that?
Posted by: large at November 10, 2006 12:53 PM (fEUSs)
First we outlaw stupidity. Next, nobody is allowed to vote without passing a test that shows they have some grasp of where the candidates stand on various issues. Lastly, we don't let stupid people reproduce. I'll be happy to be the judge and jury.
Posted by: CafeenMan at November 10, 2006 12:57 PM (eNwl1)
Therefore, to the party of the disaffected, I say that campaigning on UNDEFINED CHANGE was a perfect plan. It was enough to seep into the imbecile brain, and mobilize those disaffected to come out and cast their misguided vote.
We will see that the only way to combat this is by changing the way we teach people to think. With intelligence and critical thought many liberal platforms unravel themselves. We need to mobilize our base to make change.
Posted by: Scourge Of Jihadis at November 10, 2006 01:12 PM (gopc4)
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What D/O in the DSM is a result of losing an election? I refer to the DSM every day and haven't seen anything to support your claim.
Posted by: CafeenMan at November 10, 2006 01:44 PM (eNwl1)
Posted by: southdakotaboy at November 10, 2006 01:46 PM (JaJ3u)
Posted by: John Ryan at November 10, 2006 01:57 PM (TcoRJ)
Posted by: John Ryan at November 10, 2006 01:59 PM (TcoRJ)
Posted by: John Ryan at November 10, 2006 02:08 PM (TcoRJ)
The public education system in the US is now so bad that our students don't even know about their own government. Pathetic. That's why I now have my children in private school.
Posted by: jesusland joe at November 10, 2006 02:16 PM (8PoNP)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 10, 2006 02:21 PM (8e/V4)
I guess when you're a Democrat and your party wins, you're the Winner! If the Republicans win, why of course it's because they cheated.
Posted by: davec at November 10, 2006 02:38 PM (QkWqQ)
the entire justification for the war was fabricated. That made it
very, very wrong."
"Any time soon." And just how long was acceptable for you
Cafeenman? Until France and Russia used their veto power to lift
sanctions because el baradei said the Iraqis were being semi
cooperative? Well it doesn't look like he was being all that
cooperative. We found he still had intricate nuclear documents -
something they were supposed to have turned over or destroyed. We found
Russian MIGs among sundry other Russian made war materials (recent
stuff). We found terror training camps. We caught Russians
leaving Baghdad in a mad dash for the Syrian border when they had
assured us all Russian delegates had been evacuated before the
invasion. We found documents indicating a relationship between
them and al Qaeda operatives. We found that Iraqis had indeed
gone to Niger seeking yellowcake uranium. And that's just off the
tip of my tongue. These are not fabrications. You're not
using your critical thinking skills. You came to a conclusion and
did no adjustments over the course of 3 1/2 years of information.
Frankly, more of my initial assessments have proven true than yours.
Believe what you will, but all the evidence is there that Saddam was in
defiance of every single resolution. Every single one. What
did he have to do to justify it for you? Kill thousands or
millions here? A little late for all the dead by then, huh?
Posted by: Oyster at November 10, 2006 04:10 PM (UeUAE)
Second : Jon Stewart is funny. He's occasionally hillarious. He is definitely left leaning, but since his target audience (young people who value humor in their news more than stock reports and moral high handedness) are left leaning, that's entirely appropriate. I like watching Jon Stewart because it amuses me, and I can get to hear another (opposing) view of what I think. Sadly there are a lot of people out there who will watch this as a form of 'what should I think about this'ism. We live in a democracy though, and one of the big flaws with democracy is it's susceptability to bread and circus leadership.
Finally, illegal immigration will not be solved until the public at large is against it. Against it not in theory, or in the sense that they think that the government should do something about it, but against it in the sense that it becomes socially unacceptable to hire illegal immigrant labor for any purpose. Until the rich housewives look down their noses at the one who has the illegal maid. Until consumers stop buying produce that was picked by illegals.
The only other possible solution (I see) is for us to change the Mexican-American equation so that it is not in fact better for them to sneak into the country. Public opinion is one answer, but so are creating economic opportunities south of the border (Our job? no... good for us? yes. Worth the effort? Probably), stiff penalties for getting caught in the US illegally (unpalatable, I know...) (Could we build a prison for Mexican criminals(drug smugglers, etc) in Mexico and pay the workers in Peso's? we'd get around a lot of US labor and prison problems that way...)
Posted by: Granite at November 10, 2006 04:21 PM (E7FBk)
I've been looking for the Dem's, Liberal's, non Bush fan's plan B for a few months now, and all I've been able to find is arguments that "We shouldn't have gone in the first place, and that means we should leave now." (I'm still looking for other answers, if anyone's got them, but until we've got a plan B, I'm for plan A)
Now if I just hadn't stuck my foot in my mouth by letting people post personal insults between reading the forum and posting my comment
Posted by: Granite at November 10, 2006 04:34 PM (E7FBk)
The guy is an arrogrant creep and nowhere near as funny as P.J. O'Rourke, either in person or in writing. Plus he is a soccer fag.
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Posted by: Oyster at November 10, 2006 04:10 PM
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I was wondering how long it would take for somebody to pick up on this. Thanks.
I wonder how many countries AREN'T trying to develop nukes. With the US playing wild and loose with whatever international rules and treaties exist and the fact that we have every weapon known to man, I would expect every other country to be taking steps to reach some kind of parity. I don't trust us to do the right thing with these weapons and certainly don't expect other countries to trust us.
So how long? I have no idea. How far was Saddam from developing a nuke? Many years. And then there's still the same problem. His country was in chaos. He was in no position to use a nuke even if he had one. And other than being belligerant at times, he showed no signs of trying to take us on in any way. He may have been crazy but he wasn't entirely stupid.
And that brings up my next point. Every fabricated justification for the war in Iraq was a real justification for many other countries.
Justification #1) WMD's. OK, a lot of countries that don't like us actually have them. Why Iraq who didn't have them instead of a country that does?
Late Justifications:
Saddam was a mad dictator: That's THEIR problem, not ours. There are many other countries having dictators who are committing far worse atrocities than Saddam did. Why aren't we kicking their asses?
Saddam used biological/chemical agents against his own people: This one is true. Unfortunately, we sound very hypocritical saying it since we supplied the weapons to him to kill the people he killed with them.
Saddam wasn't ever a threat to us. Our military is meant to defend us - not to go around beating up puny, impotent dictators.
Posted by: CafeenMan at November 11, 2006 02:15 AM (eNwl1)
I guess when you're a Democrat and your party wins, you're the Winner! If the Republicans win, why of course it's because they cheated.
Posted by: davec at November 10, 2006 02:38 PM
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Here's my overall problem with this administration. They are supposed to represent us. Instead they rule us. We aren't a monarchy. Bush doesn't get it. He reminds me of Bill at the end of King Pin where he wins the tournament and claims to be king of the world. The presidency isn't supposed to work like that.
Shouldn't our government be as transparent as possible? I concede special consideration and secrecy of programs that would be compromised if made public. For example, undercover agents shouldn't be outed.
But why is our energy policy a secret? Why are Chevron and Exxon making the policy? They aren't? How do you know since it was all done behind closed doors with no oversight?
Secret spying programs. That's ok by me as long as there is non-partisan oversight. But to have it soley in the hands of one party is scary and wrong.
Half of what Bush has done would probably be ok with me if there were somebody else who was at least able to check on it and make sure it isn't abused.
The reason open source code works so well is that it undergoes microscopic peer review. There is no reason in the world why Diebold code shouldn't be open source. That doesn't make it easier to hack - it makes it harder. Does Diebold cheat? Nobody knows except them. I don't know if they do or don't but I would really like it if somebody were allowed to check those machines out thoroughly. What's wrong with that?
Frankly, I don't mind if every election is recounted regardless of who won. If somebody I don't like is elected I'd feel a lot better about it if I knew he won fair and square. When we aren't allowed to perform recounts or somebody is saying recount these but not those then there's something really wrong with that. It's just common sense and not a lefty ideal.
Posted by: CafeenMan at November 11, 2006 02:24 AM (eNwl1)
Yup, that is the real name of that dhimmi creep. Probably changed it so that his Moslem masters don't give him the HASAN, CHOP! treatment.
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