December 06, 2006

Jerusalem Post Reports Dems Had Secret Meetings With Hamas (Updated)

Their sources are not the most reliable, but the Jerusalem Post reports that US Democrats spoke secretly with Hamas:

Meanwhile, sources close to the PA government claimed that Hamas representatives recently held talks with officials from the US Democratic Party at an undisclosed location.

The sources told the Bethlehem-based Maan News Agency that Hamas representatives had also held secret talks with officials of European governments, including Britain and France.

Hamas has been designated a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) by the US State Department, and it's illegal for US citizens to give them aid (FTOs and law regarding them explained here). Whether members of Congress, the legislative branch of government, are exempt from this law is unclear. Certainly, agents of the executive branch, who are charged with foreign relations, could engage in negotiations without being in violation.

WorldNetDaily is also reporting this story:

JERUSALEM – Hamas met with a delegation of "important Democrats" who expressed interest in relations with the Palestinian terror group even if it doesn't recognize the right of Israel to exist, a Palestinian news website claimed today.
Supposedly, the Democrats are amenable to Israel returning to her pre-1967 borders in exchange for a ceasefire from Hamas. They might want to check with Israel first.

Via Stop the ACLU.

Update: The Jerusalem Post has pulled the paragraphs referring to the alleged meeting between Hamas and Democrats. WorldNetDaily has not altered their story. Thanks to commenter Tom Blumer of Bizzyblog, who noticed the revision.

Posted by: Bluto at 06:39 PM | Comments (12) | Add Comment
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1 <i>"Supposedly, the Democrats are amenable to Israel returning to her
pre-1967 borders in exchange for a ceasefire from Hamas. They might
want to check with Israel first."</i>

I think that the Democrats would be amenable to Israel returning to her pre 20th century borders. Hamas ceasefires don't seem to be worth very much. They last long enough for them to improve their aim enough to begin to actually hit Israeli civilians at which point they collapse. And somehow it becomes Israel's fault when that happens.

Posted by: Chuck the Lucky at December 06, 2006 09:00 PM (hgX7d)

2 BTW, One gazillion dollars to anyone who can get evidence of exactly who these "important Democrats" were. (What the heck is an "important Democrat" anyway?) Names! We need names!

Posted by: Chuck the Lucky at December 06, 2006 09:23 PM (hgX7d)

3 Traitorcrats.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at December 06, 2006 09:43 PM (8e/V4)

4

Who cares, Israel is negotiating with Hamas for a prisoner swap for Gilad Shalit. 1,400 terrorists including some big shots are going to be freed for Gilad.


 


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/797979.html


 


Posted by: Jason Chance at December 06, 2006 10:30 PM (gF3rB)

5


Mastermind of 2002 Netanya hotel bombing on Hamas list for prisoner exchange



By Avi Issacharoff and Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondents and AP




Hamas has recently prepared a list of leading Palestinians held in Israeli prisons that the organization will demand in a possible deal for the exchange of abducted Israel Defense Force soldier Gilad Shalit.

So far, both sides have reached agreement through Egyptian mediation, over the framework of the deal; however they have not finalized the number and identities of the prisoners to be released.

Among those whose release Hamas intends to demand is Abbas Sayed, the mastermind of the massacre at the Park Hotel in Netanya over Passover in 2002, in which 29 civilians were killed.










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The military censor allowed the release yesterday of a report prepared by an IDF investigating team regarding the raid and abduction of two IDF reservists along the northern front by Hezbollah guerrillas in July. The report concluded, on the basis of physical evidence at the site of the attack, that Eldad Regev and Ehud Goldwasser were seriously injured during the attack.

According to the assessments made in the report, one of the two suffered critical injuries, although the report left the identity of the individual ambiguous.

At this time, Israel and Hamas are holding indirect negotiations on the central details of the Shalit deal. Sources familiar with the developments say that if progress is achieved, it is likely that the first stage of the deal will take place in a few weeks.

Early Wednesday, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak told reporters negotiations for Shalit's freedom are "are in their final stage and waiting for Hamas approval" but added, "it seems that there other parties who are intervening against the interest of the Palestinian people." He did not elaborate.

The deal is intended to take place in three stages: In the first, Israel is expected to release about 400 prisoners, among them women, minors and prisoners suffering from health problems. A short while later, or parallel to the initial release, Shalit would be released to Israel.

In the second stage, following the release of Shalit, another large group of Palestinian prisoner would be released. In the third stage, another group of prisoners, considered "heavy duty" figures, would be freed. These include senior members of terrorist organizations, including individuals with "blood on their hands."

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has hinted recently that he would agree to the release of some prisoners who had been involved in attacks that claimed the lives of Israelis. Nonetheless, the identity of the prisoners who would be released is still unclear; there is some debate over the number and identity of the prisoners who would be freed.

For its part, Hamas is demanding that 400 prisoners be freed in the first part of the deal, and 500 each in the two subsequent parts of the exchange. Israel would like to limit that figure.

However, a senior Israeli source said this week that it is possible that Israel will agree to the release of as many as 1,000 Palestinians.

Palestinian sources told Haaretz yesterday that topping the list of those Hamas wants released, is Sheikh Hassan Yusef, among the leaders of the organization in the West Bank.

Yusef, a resident of Bitunia, near Ramallah, was jailed for his membership in a terrorist organization.

Next in line is Sheikh Mohammed Jamal Natshe, from Hebron. He is also among the leaders of the Hamas political wing in the West Bank.

Also high on the Hamas list is Jamal Abu Hija, who headed the group in the Jenin region.

Another whose release Hamas will demand is Yahiye Sanuar, among the founders of Hamas and its special security arm, a resident of Khan Yunis, and brother of Mohammed Sanuar, considered to be one of the heads of Izz al-Din al-Qassam, the military arm of the organization, and one of those believed to have been involved in the abduction of Gilad Shalit.

Sanuar has been in prison for nearly 20 years, having been sentenced for the murder of Palestinians suspected of collaborating with Israel. He is not considered to have "bloodied his hands" in terrorism against Israelis.

The jailed leader of Tanzim, Marwan Barghouti, is also on the list, as is the Secretary General of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Ahmed Sa'adat, held for his alleged role in the assassination of former minister Rehavam Ze'evi, but sentenced for other violations.


Posted by: Jason Chance at December 06, 2006 10:30 PM (gF3rB)

6 Jason Chance:


1400 animals for one human being sounds like a good deal to me.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 06, 2006 10:38 PM (bLPT+)

7 JPost pulled the two paras about the Dems and Euros meeting with Hamas.

WND story is still there.

Posted by: Tom Blumer at December 06, 2006 11:27 PM (wY7eM)

8 jonny658

Posted by: jonny773 at December 07, 2006 03:13 AM (L0Z6w)

9

Don't get smart with me. I never said it was a good deal. That's why I'm posting it. Some big terrorists are going to be freed and that's insane. But what can we do. At least the kid will be freed but at a big price.


Posted by: Jason Chance at December 07, 2006 08:12 AM (gF3rB)

10 Jason Chance:


I think its a good deal. I'd trade 10,000 cockroaches for one human being. The cockroaches can always be exterminated later. 


If it were up to me, they'd leave with bombs implanted in their bodies, and detonate them when they got back to their nests.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 08, 2006 12:03 AM (bLPT+)

11 It seems gregturd has a new hobby, which is essentially no different than the old hobby.

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