May 17, 2007

Is "Torture" the New Gay Marriage?

Tom Macguire thinks so, and he raises some interesting points:

And since torture works, sometimes, this is a real issue - I would love to see the Dem candidates tackle this at one of their debates (as if!). Would they ever contemplate torturing a terrorist, presumably after first reading him his rights and apologizing for the many indignities the United States has heaped upon his country and the world? Imagine my suspense.
The analogy isn't quite there, but I see his point. Court-imposed gay marriage was a political boost for the GOP in 2004. People across the country were mortally offended by it, and the Dems were unable to craft a politically-viable position on it. "Enhanced interrogation" could be a similar issue for the GOP in '08.

I can see the ad now... The GOP nominee (who will, of course, be Fred Thompson) explains the interrogation of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in substantial detail. He elaborates on the intel gathered and the lives saved by that intel. Then looks straight into the camera and says something along the lines of: "Friends, a free nation doesn't torture people--but what we did to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed wasn't "torture" to anyone but hyperactive left-wing ACLU lawyers. I'm gonna tell you right now that none of the techniques we used on this thug should ever be off the table when American lives are at stake. And under my administration, they won't be."

Don't try to tell me that won't sell like hotcakes in Ohio.

h/t : Glenn

Posted by: Ragnar at 08:42 AM | Comments (6) | Add Comment
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1 God forbid a Western intelligence service actually you know, hurt anyone while trying to protect the lives and interests of it's citizens.

Do whatever it takes.

Posted by: blackflag at May 17, 2007 09:48 AM (Mq5jS)

2 Obviously it should be the exception rather than the rule, but all options should remain on the table.  Innocent lives are more important than terrorist "rights".

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 17, 2007 10:33 AM (8e/V4)

3 But lets get real. What the left calls torture is water boarding, stress positions and sleep deprivation. Fun? No. Torture? Fucking please.

Posted by: Randman at May 17, 2007 10:54 AM (Sal3J)

4 Don't try to tell me that won't sell like hotcakes in Ohio.

Ragnar, Ohio is lost to the Dems in 2008, no matter who each side nominates.  The Ohio GOP really screwed the pooch. 

In order to win the presidency, the GOP has to hold Florida, and then flip Penn (or some other combination to make up the loss of Ohio... Penn seems the most likely).  Rudy would win in a landslide, taking NJ too (but his liberal social views would depress turnout in Red states, leading to GOP losses down ticket).  Romney would have a similar down ticket negative effect because of he's a mormon (look at Louisiana vote patterns on republican Bobby Jindal), and he probably wouldn't flip any new states - Dems would win the presidency.  FDThompson would increase GOP turnout in red states, possibly flipping a house or two back to the GOP.  He would certainly hold Florida.  The question is whether Thompson can flip any states to make up for the inevitable Ohio loss.

This is giving the Dems the benefit of the doubt on nominating the most viable candidate - Gore.  Obama's inexperience will cause a Howard Dean or Gary Hart style implosion. For all of Hillary's faults, she's still a strong candidate, but she might actually put Ohio back in play for the GOP to keep.  Gore avoids the Iraq war vote history, and reminds people of the booming 90s, without having a snuke in his snizz.

Posted by: wooga at May 17, 2007 01:25 PM (t9sT5)

5 I think Gore would be a snore.

Posted by: Randman at May 17, 2007 02:40 PM (Sal3J)

6  Runescape is played by fags

Posted by: Randman at May 17, 2007 10:21 PM (Sal3J)

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