December 09, 2005
You Won't See The Sunni Clerics On This One, Either
Karim Salam.
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You can debate all you want as to whether this hostage or that deserved their fate, we don't think any of them deserve it, unless it can be conclusively proven that it was staged.
But I dare anyone to defend this.
Do it. I dare you to justify the kidnapping of an 8 year old boy.
Go ahead, try it. Those of you who think the CPT people are getting their just due, tell me how this boy is getting his. Those of you who scream Bush lied people died, you tell me how someone who would kidnap an 8 year old boy is a "freedom fighter" or a "minuteman."
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Those of you who think the CPT people are getting their just due, tell me how this boy is getting his.
God forbid anyone be able to tell the difference between two different situations.
Karim -- innocent. Lives there. Has nothing to do with either the terrorists or the government, beyond his father's occupation.
CPT -- guilty of supporting terrorists in Iraq and the PA. Don't live there. Get in the way of the Iraqi government, with the intent of providing aid to the terrorists.
I don't care if the CPT profess to be pacifists; their actions say more than their words.
God forbid anyone be able to tell the difference between two different situations.
Karim -- innocent. Lives there. Has nothing to do with either the terrorists or the government, beyond his father's occupation.
CPT -- guilty of supporting terrorists in Iraq and the PA. Don't live there. Get in the way of the Iraqi government, with the intent of providing aid to the terrorists.
I don't care if the CPT profess to be pacifists; their actions say more than their words.
Posted by: Robert Crawford at December 09, 2005 09:01 PM (Gn9tM)
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Nobody deserves to die as a hostage in Iraq. Islam is a religion of hate. Amen
Posted by: Jester at December 09, 2005 09:08 PM (a6n28)
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Islam is not a religion of hate and CPT does not support terrorists or armed groups of any sort. Although things are understandably sensitive right now, I recommend informing CPT of Karim's plight and requesting their assistance in raising international awareness. Sadly, Karim's plight is hardly rare in Iraq today.
From a CPT report filed in Iraq on April 26, 2005:
"The insurgency has been targeting physicians. Dr. Al-brhim [not his real name] mentioned at least a dozen who have been killed in the last several months, three in the last six weeks. Not only does he live under constant fear that his clinic will be looted, but he lives also under threats to his life. He has already paid ransom to protect his children from kidnapping." - http://www.cpt.org/archives/2005/apr05/0032.html
From a CPT report filed in Iraq on April 26, 2005:
"The insurgency has been targeting physicians. Dr. Al-brhim [not his real name] mentioned at least a dozen who have been killed in the last several months, three in the last six weeks. Not only does he live under constant fear that his clinic will be looted, but he lives also under threats to his life. He has already paid ransom to protect his children from kidnapping." - http://www.cpt.org/archives/2005/apr05/0032.html
Posted by: Rob at December 09, 2005 10:27 PM (Wl7Nx)
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Thank you Robert.
By all means, provide the court documents that prove that the 4 CPT hostages are guilty.
The fact that CPT is an unapologetic group of moonbats doesn't make those 4 hostages any less innocent than this little boy.
By all means, provide the court documents that prove that the 4 CPT hostages are guilty.
The fact that CPT is an unapologetic group of moonbats doesn't make those 4 hostages any less innocent than this little boy.
Posted by: Vinnie at December 09, 2005 10:31 PM (Kr6/f)
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Vinnie I think a lot of the kidnapping that is done over there is also being done by people withe neither religious or political intent. Just plain ordinary street criminals who may sell their victims to others or attempt to collect a ransom themselves. The security situation is abysmal.
Posted by: john Ryan at December 09, 2005 11:37 PM (ads7K)
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I need a clarification, John. Do you think the son of this bodyguard of an Iraqi judge was kidnapped by common criminals?
Posted by: Vinnie at December 10, 2005 12:34 AM (Kr6/f)
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Agent Brown declares that no one should get their head cut off.
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 10, 2005 01:11 AM (6LOUW)
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Any American murderers...errr....American mercenaries....errrr.....I meant "security consultants" get their just due today?
Just wondering.
Just wondering.
Posted by: Screw em at December 10, 2005 02:03 AM (R+YwI)
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Hark! here comes one of the DailyKos crowd!
Did you hear the Israeli's steal Palestinian Children's eyes? or that Kennedy was killed by a microwave mind control ray that took control of Oswald? how about the earthquake generator in the nose of the space shuttle? Project Blue Beam? Project Seafarer? Project SnowBird? or Project AQUARIUS, GOD HELP US!!! the United States Evil GubberMint is going to kill us all!!!
You DailyKos boys, go back to your tinfoil hat talk, leave the adults to the real conversation, thanks.
Did you hear the Israeli's steal Palestinian Children's eyes? or that Kennedy was killed by a microwave mind control ray that took control of Oswald? how about the earthquake generator in the nose of the space shuttle? Project Blue Beam? Project Seafarer? Project SnowBird? or Project AQUARIUS, GOD HELP US!!! the United States Evil GubberMint is going to kill us all!!!
You DailyKos boys, go back to your tinfoil hat talk, leave the adults to the real conversation, thanks.
Posted by: dave at December 10, 2005 05:25 AM (CcXvt)
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Agent Smith declares that Dave is afraid of tinfoil, but doesn't flinch when children are napalmed in our name.
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 10, 2005 06:26 AM (6LOUW)
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not to worry, because all these "agent" characters are moron's. I've seen several idiot characters on this site "Bush Lied Soldiers Died", or "Downing Street Memo" it's not an original routine, "Agent Retard" is another to add to the list.
Posted by: dave at December 10, 2005 07:54 AM (CcXvt)
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Agent Smith--how is Colin Baber?
Posted by: youngbourbonprofessional at December 10, 2005 08:53 AM (tdhAh)
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Hey Rob, you haven't died from malignant stupidity yet? If you, being the retarded moron that you are, think that anyone here, other than the other visiting retarded Kos Kiddies, is going to take seriously anything you say, then you're exactly as stupid as you sound. Why don't you morons save us the cost of bullets and rope and just commit mass suicide? Your day is coming.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 10, 2005 09:18 AM (0yYS2)
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Agent Smith, the United States doesn't go around dropping napalm or any other types of munitions on children on purpose. For one thing, it's very wrong to do so. Another reason is that it's a waste of napalm since children aren't the ones cutting off the heads of hostages or planting IEDs in dead dogs at the side of the road. War being the chaos that it is, sometimes, tragically, accidents do happen. So it's nonsense to equate accidentally wounding or killing children to deliberately stalking and kidnapping an innocent child to terrorise his parents and manipulate the course of justice. But then again logic might be a bit complicated for the matrix.
Posted by: Graeme at December 10, 2005 09:45 AM (wnWIl)
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I am confused. All this talk about napalm ...
Napalm is only actually effective in open area engagements and its not a precision dropped munition. Its not very effective (and pretty much useless) in built up areas - particlarly on ones that rely heavily on stone, mortar and concrete construction - add to that design layout - narrow streets, courtyards and alleyways between multiple story structures with building materials see above.
I know during the overall conflict situations may have arose where is was an effective option (we actually pick and chose the tools for the job on the spot - (hugh diverse inventory!), but seems to me they would have been few.
I watched portions of that RAI doc - was it just me - or the only actual film footage of napalm being deployed was old vietnam war material? (BTW - liked the sound track).
Its not like its not noticable when being used (like WP no less!). What exactly is the problem with documenting the claims? Batteries dead that day on the Camcorder(s)? After-injuries don't cut it - I've seen injuries - got tons of TMs on them and treatment - you can't simply pass off any type of warzone injury as napalm - its dumb!
No pictures - fine - how about materials. Napalm has a very distinct burn signature on materials (organic and non) plus an extremely distinct chemical signature and residue that can be readily analysed. Its actually easy for God's sake!
I just don't know! I try to be fair and give many on the left the benefit of a doubt regarding their actual intelligence. Some here actually criticise me for that approach - but I have to wonder sometimes - maybe they really are morons.
Graeme - I believe you are a Brit - and you may have travelled a bit. Maybe you can explain to some of these idiots that building materials vary greatly around the world - and in that part of the world concrete block, brick n' mortar are #1. They hold up extremely well against napalm (good protection). HE with good concussion and precision-guided munitions with reactive shaped HE warheads however ... that's another story.
Napalm is only actually effective in open area engagements and its not a precision dropped munition. Its not very effective (and pretty much useless) in built up areas - particlarly on ones that rely heavily on stone, mortar and concrete construction - add to that design layout - narrow streets, courtyards and alleyways between multiple story structures with building materials see above.
I know during the overall conflict situations may have arose where is was an effective option (we actually pick and chose the tools for the job on the spot - (hugh diverse inventory!), but seems to me they would have been few.
I watched portions of that RAI doc - was it just me - or the only actual film footage of napalm being deployed was old vietnam war material? (BTW - liked the sound track).
Its not like its not noticable when being used (like WP no less!). What exactly is the problem with documenting the claims? Batteries dead that day on the Camcorder(s)? After-injuries don't cut it - I've seen injuries - got tons of TMs on them and treatment - you can't simply pass off any type of warzone injury as napalm - its dumb!
No pictures - fine - how about materials. Napalm has a very distinct burn signature on materials (organic and non) plus an extremely distinct chemical signature and residue that can be readily analysed. Its actually easy for God's sake!
I just don't know! I try to be fair and give many on the left the benefit of a doubt regarding their actual intelligence. Some here actually criticise me for that approach - but I have to wonder sometimes - maybe they really are morons.
Graeme - I believe you are a Brit - and you may have travelled a bit. Maybe you can explain to some of these idiots that building materials vary greatly around the world - and in that part of the world concrete block, brick n' mortar are #1. They hold up extremely well against napalm (good protection). HE with good concussion and precision-guided munitions with reactive shaped HE warheads however ... that's another story.
Posted by: hondo at December 10, 2005 11:03 AM (3aakz)
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Don't waste your breath Graeme, these idiots are far too stupid to comprehend reason or even reality. The sooner they are all killed and dumped into mass graves, (I say that if they think it's good enough for Iraqis, then I think it's good enough for the leftards), the better off all humanity will be. The gene pool has become polluted, and must be cleansed of their stupidity.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 10, 2005 11:03 AM (0yYS2)
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Actually hondo, I'm not a Brit. I just suffer (thankfully)from a bad case of old fashioned British thinking. I agree with IM that's it's a waste of time arguing with the trolls that come here. They're all set in their ways, just like we're set in ours. The difference is, their thinking will result in global catastrophe. Using big words like "high explosive", "shaped charge" and "concussive effects" will get you nowhere. The left's knowledge of military hardware is still stuck in the 1960s since Vietnam was the last hard fought war. That's why when they have to name US weaponry, all they can think up is napalm and WP.
Posted by: Graeme at December 10, 2005 12:54 PM (wnWIl)
Posted by: hondo at December 10, 2005 03:57 PM (3aakz)
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Not to worry Hondo, I'm not Irish either. I'm from the Caribbean, hence my ex-colonial semi-Britishness.
Posted by: Graeme at December 10, 2005 04:51 PM (wnWIl)
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Dave,
You didn't answer my question.
Did anymore mercenary security consultants get their just due today?
And if being in favor of truth, the constitution, and being opposed to destroying our military and economy through asinine warmongering such as neanderthal chickenshits like you and your ilk means "being a kid". Heh, you can have your fantasy that you're an adult.
You didn't answer my question.
Did anymore mercenary security consultants get their just due today?
And if being in favor of truth, the constitution, and being opposed to destroying our military and economy through asinine warmongering such as neanderthal chickenshits like you and your ilk means "being a kid". Heh, you can have your fantasy that you're an adult.
Posted by: Screw em at December 10, 2005 04:58 PM (UfKum)
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Look at Screw em attack the straw man he built, he sure is courageous, look at him go! next he will get a puppy and kick it.
Tell us, does talking tough on the internet make you feel like a man? opposed to when you normally "feel a man" (in a truckstop bathroom for $10)
Tell us, does talking tough on the internet make you feel like a man? opposed to when you normally "feel a man" (in a truckstop bathroom for $10)
Posted by: dave at December 10, 2005 05:06 PM (CcXvt)
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Oh look! Some boy just rang out doorbell and ran off to hide in the bushes and giggle! How quaint!
Posted by: hondo at December 10, 2005 05:08 PM (3aakz)
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Agent Jones says Colin Bourbon is another alliance that has proven a nuisance to the Core Network that Smith, Brown and Jones guard on behalf of the Architect.
What you think is irrelevent. You are needed to help bring a known terrorist to justice.
What you think is irrelevent. You are needed to help bring a known terrorist to justice.
Posted by: Agent Smith at December 10, 2005 07:08 PM (RfI6W)
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Talk about hypocrisy. Here's little screw em coming in here and celebrating the death of a human being while the scum he is allied with(the Left and liberals) came in here last week and chastised us because we didn't have any sympathy for the 4 fools who went to Iraq for God knows what reason.
These liberal scum all deserve to be sent to Iraq. Perhaps then the pukes might see the light. Nah, they are too hypocritical for that.
These liberal scum all deserve to be sent to Iraq. Perhaps then the pukes might see the light. Nah, they are too hypocritical for that.
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 10, 2005 08:02 PM (rUyw4)
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Dave,
Little screw em is more likely to get with a group of his fellow girlie boys, buy a Playboy or Penthouse, and proceed with a circle jerk. That's about his speed.
Little screw em is more likely to get with a group of his fellow girlie boys, buy a Playboy or Penthouse, and proceed with a circle jerk. That's about his speed.
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 10, 2005 08:23 PM (rUyw4)
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Divide and conquer. Fall into the do each other better and the focus will waiver. We have differant ideas. Freedom foremost.
Substantiated facts. Not verbal vomit.
Substantiated facts. Not verbal vomit.
Posted by: dick muesser at December 10, 2005 10:08 PM (dMHCB)
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YEAH!!!! WHAT HE SAID!!! ....
Er, I have absolutely no clue!
Could be one of those creative writing software programs off on its own - early generation no less.
Er, I have absolutely no clue!
Could be one of those creative writing software programs off on its own - early generation no less.
Posted by: hondo at December 10, 2005 10:31 PM (3aakz)
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Sorry Dick,
But verbal vomit is all we've had from these liberal Kos trolls who come in here for no other reason than to insult and obstruct. Do you think they deserve any respect from us? I don't bother arguing with a fool who has drunk the kool-aid of the radical Left while wearing a tin foil hat. It's useless and counterproductive.
But verbal vomit is all we've had from these liberal Kos trolls who come in here for no other reason than to insult and obstruct. Do you think they deserve any respect from us? I don't bother arguing with a fool who has drunk the kool-aid of the radical Left while wearing a tin foil hat. It's useless and counterproductive.
Posted by: jesusland joe at December 10, 2005 11:27 PM (rUyw4)
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I don't bother either - but I do use the opportunity to creatively plink n' have some fun.
Posted by: hondo at December 10, 2005 11:40 PM (3aakz)
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Screw 'em - Your sentiments are appreciated but your trolling is not. I've asked the resident denizens to treat the four CPT members with some measure of respect and I now ask you to show the same to Mr. Schultz and to his friends and family in what I know all too well to be a difficult time. You and I may not agree with why he went to Iraq and what he was doing there but there's nothing to be gained and much to be lost by your mockery.
Posted by: Rob at December 11, 2005 12:00 AM (Wl7Nx)
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Poor Dave,
It's such a simple question.
Why are you so scared to answer it?
Hell you're more scared to answer the question than you are to enlist. Chickenhawk is too nice a term for you. You can't even fight from your keyboard.
Poor little sad skurred-of-brownies bitch.
Do you shake in your boots whenever you see an Arab in close proximity? Do you get on your cell and call mommy and tell her to come get you back to the basement pronto?
Bitchass pussy.
Screw em!
It's such a simple question.
Why are you so scared to answer it?
Hell you're more scared to answer the question than you are to enlist. Chickenhawk is too nice a term for you. You can't even fight from your keyboard.
Poor little sad skurred-of-brownies bitch.
Do you shake in your boots whenever you see an Arab in close proximity? Do you get on your cell and call mommy and tell her to come get you back to the basement pronto?
Bitchass pussy.
Screw em!
Posted by: Screw Em at December 11, 2005 04:49 AM (hRM9L)
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Rob,
Your sentiments are worthy of recognition but they are nothing this blog has sought to display either in the front page posts or in 90% of the commenters opinions.
This blog and the grand majority of its commenters are the ultimate in hypocrisy. You obviously see that just as I do.
SCREW EM.
Your sentiments are worthy of recognition but they are nothing this blog has sought to display either in the front page posts or in 90% of the commenters opinions.
This blog and the grand majority of its commenters are the ultimate in hypocrisy. You obviously see that just as I do.
SCREW EM.
Posted by: Screw Em at December 11, 2005 04:51 AM (hRM9L)
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Why don't you leftard trolls just fuck off and die like good little useful idiots? One day soon, the shit will hit the fan, and you will be dragged out into the streets and your stinking corpses hung from every available structure, and mine will be the last face many of you see. Go ahead, start your little revolution, I beg of you.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 11, 2005 09:21 AM (0yYS2)
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pretty ironic calling me a chickenshit from the safety of your keyboard, seeing as in real life that would get your teeth rammed down the orifice you normally save for your boyfriends genitalia.
See, idiot you can come here and talk all the bitch smack like the hippy you are, you pussies lay away at night thinking the U.S government is plotting to kill you, because you "know to much" and you know the "truth".
People that think the Government is going to get them suffer from their feelings of being insignificant, being the target of something bigger makes them feel better about themselves. No need to keep your dirty laundry in a safe big boy, the Government doesn't want to steal your DNA, or your deficient brain waves.
Talk it up and feel the big man, we all know how you cower under your urine soaked bedsheets at the thought of the Government, people like you are more an object of pity than anger.
See, idiot you can come here and talk all the bitch smack like the hippy you are, you pussies lay away at night thinking the U.S government is plotting to kill you, because you "know to much" and you know the "truth".
People that think the Government is going to get them suffer from their feelings of being insignificant, being the target of something bigger makes them feel better about themselves. No need to keep your dirty laundry in a safe big boy, the Government doesn't want to steal your DNA, or your deficient brain waves.
Talk it up and feel the big man, we all know how you cower under your urine soaked bedsheets at the thought of the Government, people like you are more an object of pity than anger.
Posted by: dave at December 11, 2005 11:27 AM (CcXvt)
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Sure dave, sure. You're such a big, bad man aren't you? My, that's frightening to know that I'm being threated by a big wussy libtard like yourself. You're probably one of the badasses who vandalize property of anyone with whom you disagree, then run off to brag about it to your little chickenshit friends.
I tried to get greg to meet me, and I'd love to meet you, nice and private, because I'd like to see how long you could live without any skin. The day you meet me is the day you die bitch.
I tried to get greg to meet me, and I'd love to meet you, nice and private, because I'd like to see how long you could live without any skin. The day you meet me is the day you die bitch.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 11, 2005 07:13 PM (0yYS2)
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You might want to read the reply to me, from Screw `em?
Posted by: dave at December 11, 2005 07:49 PM (CcXvt)
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Doh! All apologies dave, I was recovering from a stomach problem, (spent all day in the throne room), and not completely coherent. I shouldn't blogsurf when sick.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 12, 2005 09:35 AM (0yYS2)
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no problem, with all the morons of late it's hard to separate the Wheat, from the Chaff as they say!
Posted by: dave at December 12, 2005 04:11 PM (CcXvt)
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